Deep Dive
Shownotes Transcript
That was my music beat. What's up, everybody? Welcome back to The Honest Drink. I'm Justin. If you've been enjoying the show, go ahead, rate, comment, and subscribe. All right, today, it's me and Howie. We're having fun in the studio. We try something a little bit different.
We really get into music in this episode, 'cause we were talking about our upbringings as we're reflecting on our looming fatherhood and parenthood with our expecting children.
And we get into kind of what songs were really impactful emotionally when we were growing up. So we share a lot of the songs that were a big part of our lives and both good and bad moments. And we kind of just play it on air. Yeah, it runs the gamut between hip hop, rock, indie music.
Actually, I wish we could have gone even more further with different genres, but I think we can save that for next time. Yeah, save that for next time, if you guys. If you guys like it. If you guys like it. We get a little bit emo, very emo in this one. It's okay. But we kind of just bare our soul and wear our hearts on our sleeve on this one and talk about music and life. So without further ado, here we go. Hello, guys. Hello, and what's the idea? People say.
Check, check. Hello. Here we go. Yeah. There's a whole new vibe, man. There's a whole new vibe. I'm liking it. There's a whole new vibe. I'm liking it. I'm liking this. What is up, guys? I'm feeling alive right now. All right, what am I drinking? Yeah, we're trying something different. All right. Cheers, brother. Cheers. What's up, man?
Not much, man. Not much. I mean, I feel like it's fitting that it's you and I right now. Mono a mono. That's true. Popo a popo. That's true. We have been broadcasting that we are becoming parents soon. But one thing that did pop in my mind was the thought that there's only about a month left before life turns upside down.
Yeah, I mean, that's what everyone's saying, but does it really turn upside down? Like, you know, that's what I'm most curious about, right? Because all the cliches. You're not going to get any sleep. It's going to be crazy, you know, relationship issues even. And I'm just like wondering because there's still like a part of me that's like holding out hope that I'm going to be the exception. You know, that none of that is going to happen to me. And I'm going to take it like a champ and be like, what do you guys mean? What's all the fuss about?
There's a part of me holding out hope for that. Well, I think for me, it's because I've been thinking about the whole double action. Twinsy-whinsy. Yeah, yeah. Well, you're in a whole different world than me. A little twinsy-whinsy? Yeah. I mean, I feel like you're taking it pretty well. I don't know. Like, I can't imagine how I would react. Like, not that it's bad news. Like, it's great news, right? But, yeah, it's like a whole different realm, I think, of considerations. Yeah.
You know, and it definitely changes. It has a definitely a larger footprint in terms of impact on your life, I would say. Yeah. Having two at the same time, I would guess. Yeah. I mean, there's this one statistic that I was reading how everybody says, oh, double trouble, you know, double the work. But it's actually it's it's it's if you think about it's almost like triple because, yes, you do have double in terms of twins, right?
But the triple is because of the effort that you have to give in or the mother or the father, if the father's home a lot. That extra effort means that you get drained double the amount, which means that you become even more needing of whether it's sleep or rest or anything like that. So it's almost like triple the amount, right? If you think of it that way. Because the math works, damn it.
I'm not really following the triple math work. But no, I get what you're saying. Yeah, because if the mom... Because it compounds. It compounds, yeah. Right? Yeah. Yeah, I can't. That's a whole doozy. But it's just like, you know, even talking about it right now, like, I don't... How much value is it in talking about it right now when, you know, everything is just still like speculation. Everything is still just wondering what it's going to be like.
And I'm just wondering, like, how much of it is, like, you know, is it even worth talking about right now? Because are we just psyching ourselves out a little bit is my point. Well, I don't know if you are. I probably am. But I don't know about you. You definitely are. I don't think you are. I think you're pretty chill about it. Yeah, I'm surprisingly, like, no, because I just feel like I'm still in denial.
Right? Like, I'm still in denial. Like, it's not going to be bad. It's not going to be a whole life upside-downing event. You know what I mean? Like, I'm still holding out that hope. So I'm just like a dreamer. But you don't... Okay, when you're sleeping, you don't ever...
Like, this idea of the next stage in your life does not weigh down on you at all? Doesn't it make you start to think about, for example, going back down through memory lane or thinking about what you can't do anymore? All those glory days. You didn't go down that path at all when you're trying to sleep? When you're having a little bit of empty space to think? You know, what I have been going down or thinking about more is, like, my parents. Right? Because I'm about to become a parent. So I'm, like...
I think I'm reflecting more about, you know, the whole experience of seeing my parents from their perspective raising me. And that's been hitting me quite hard, actually. You know, I've thought about it before, but I'm thinking about it on a whole different level now. And obviously I'm older and they're older, you know, they're like in their 70s. And so I'm thinking like, God, like this whole epic life
that we've been through together. And I'm trying to look at it through their eyes. From the day I was born to now and everything in between. And then I see it through my eyes. And it's like, of course, from our own perspectives, everyone thinks their own life is like this one epic adventure, right? Like we're the stars in our own movies. And for my parents, you know, that movie...
May end soon. Well, not may, but will. I mean, soon is the key word, whether it's soon or not. But it's going to end. It's going to end for them. It's going to end for me. So, you know, that's kind of what I'm preparing for. Because then I look at my grandparents, their parents, and none of them are alive anymore. I don't have a single grandparent that is living anymore. So what does that thought do to you? I mean, are you just thinking about it or is it actually causing you to change or...
or what? It's definitely causing me to change my behavior, at least try to change my behavior with my parents. And in a way, I've taken them for granted for too long. And that absolutely needs to change. And so now, with my interactions with them, I don't always succeed. But I do try to be more aware of
Let's make every interaction regardless of how I'm feeling, regardless of anything they're saying, a positive interaction. Because we have a finite amount of interactions left. What that number is, who knows, but it's finite. And why waste any of those with like a negative kind of experience, right? For either side. And especially for them. Like I will bite my tongue at times. I will just...
tried to do things that will at least give them not so much of a negative experience with me anymore. And not to say that they were all negative, but like anytime anything's approaching kind of negativity, I try to remind myself like, hey, it doesn't matter if I think I'm right or they did this or that. What matters now is that the memories we create now from now on are hopefully mostly positive.
That's powerful, man. I'm just asking myself, do you think this was triggered because of the oncoming birth of your child? Or do you think this is triggered because there's actual change in their day-to-day... Yeah, if I have to be honest, I don't think... It wasn't triggered by the child. It was triggered by me noticing their aging, right? And I don't remember when it was specifically, but...
there was a point in time where I kind of just noticed and realized, wow, they're getting old. And, you know, I don't know, I can't speak for anybody else, but for me, it's like, you know, you almost like, like logically, you know that no humans live forever, but you almost feel like your parents are always going to be there. Especially growing up. You know, especially growing up.
While their health in general are most likely okay, your own health, you know, you're young, you feel invincible, right? And so, of course, you never think about that inevitability. And it's funny because when you're bringing this up, I feel like it's hitting home for me as well because same thing, I can't put my finger on exactly when or what caused me to start to see the...
see my parents start to change in my eyes, but it has compounded. And now if I think about it, it becomes a little bit more obvious. You know, my father may be a little more, more specific because he went through an actual moment. Like he had a stroke, but my mom has been a gradual, like a very gradual cause she's always been a rock. Right. And now I see this change and I mean, she's still good. She's still doing yoga every day. And, and, you know, but she,
You definitely see a change. And I mean, comparatively, I feel like you still go for another like 20, 30 years, you know, but it's just that that little even if it's a minuscule change, right? Just a minuscule change. It affects you. Yeah. I mean, you know, every every little instance that I notice, like my dad's memory is like fading.
Like it's a pit at the bottom of my stomach. Like this is like this heavy pit. And you know, obviously I'm, you know, other people have gone through much worse and you know, some people never even had parents. But yeah, it's tough because like I'm just not ready. I'm not ready to face them not being here. And it's funny because it's not like I see them all that much, you know, it's like, but like emotionally, psychologically,
I don't think I'm ready for that yet. So I think what I'm going through now and that feeling, that like sick feeling I feel sometimes is just maybe my body priming itself in a way and preparing itself to kind of face the inevitable. I don't know. But there's a reason why I'm thinking about it more. There's a reason why like physically, like I feel like heavy and
and sick when I think about it, you know? And I try not to, but it's just there. So I don't know. I think it's maybe just like naturally, like it's like my mind, like just starting to prepare me. Yeah. I feel like I'm sure a lot of people listening would be able to relate to what you're saying. And one thing that I've thought about, I haven't made a move on yet.
what I've thought about is before it's too late, what can I do to either accentuate the relationship or preserve something before it's lost, right? And I mean, one way for you, Justin, is
The time we had him on, you know, and we just had some talks, right? That could be one. The time, wait, what, when? Your father. Okay. Came and we had a talk. Oh, yeah, okay. Right? And, yeah, we never released it, but it was like, it was one of those things that we have something. Well, you have something, you know? And then my question continues, is there anything else that you can do? Or is there anything else that we all can do?
that can help continue to preserve some sort of history or legacy or something. And I'll continue to start after you answer. Okay. Oh, so you already have something locked and loaded? No, no. So I don't know so much about them, but like, I mean, for us, like if you bring that up, I mean, this very podcast, right? Like we're leaving a time capsule behind, like every single episode, including this one we're having right now is going to be a time capsule.
right for someone to listen to after and whether it's you know our children or whoever's you know there i mean that in a way is actually like pretty freaking special right like we're we're leaving these little time capsules and the fact that you know we try to be really honest on this show and just kind of spill like pour our soul out i think in a way might pay dividends later on in that
there will be a side of us that maybe our children can listen to that we won't be very good at expressing directly to them. Right. And even if you were able to express it, you would never be able to, one would never be able to really truly understand without additional aid, such as visual aid, audio aid, you know what I mean? To really... Yeah, it's a great medium. But I mean, but like my point is like,
I feel like I do have flaws in communicating directly with people emotionally sometimes. I think when it's task oriented, I think I'm okay. But I think in terms of like exactly how I'm feeling about that person is something I'm not very good at. And people have told me this, like including my parents and my family.
have told me like, I'm just not really good at communicating directly. I mean, I think you even said this to me before. So, you know, a concern of mine is like, you know, I don't think I'm going to like the foundation of me is not going to change overnight. So I feel like there's definitely going to be moments where I just don't communicate very emotionally with my own kid. And indirectly, this can be like maybe a way for my child to get to know me better.
And to know like things that were going through my head, what I was thinking, what I was thinking about him. And just see a side of me that maybe they otherwise wouldn't see. Right. And, you know, selfishly, this is kind of like very self-serving of us. But it's the idea I think that anyone can take away. It's just like, hey, whether it's taking more pictures, whether it's keeping more record of you. You know, it's not just about you anymore. It's about you.
people behind you that might want to know you better. Yeah. And unless you're really famous and there's all these like biographies written about you and all this footage of you, most people aren't, don't have that. Most people don't have that, but you can create it for yourself. Yeah. I've thought about this when I first found out about having kids. I thought about this. I was like, what can I do to
That's like long term, like a long term project. What can I do that can leave something for my kids? You know, and when they get older, they'll have something to to dig into and enjoy. And some ideas that I had that that I have is are like like one is creating like either email account for them just for them without telling them until they're like 18.
And then just writing them emails, you know what I mean? Of like, you know, what's been going on and stuff like that, what I'm thinking and stuff like that. That's one thought I had. I actually read that somewhere that gave me that idea. Well, even Danny left a letter, right? Yeah. For her like 18th birthday and graduation. Yeah. I think it's like, it's just thinking about these kind of things, like what can one do or even just journaling and just leave that journal, journaling specifically for the kids to read, you know? Because if someone like you who's really...
bad at emoting, you know, or sharing your emotions. Your emoting is okay, but it's sharing of your emotions that, and opening up maybe is a little bit more difficult for you. I mean, maybe these are things that could help. I don't know. I have a friend that takes a family photo every year at the exact same place.
And through the years, you see it's really cute. Like, them grow, you know? And things like that, I think, is really special. I never went through it. My parents never did anything like that. But I would love to give that to the next generation, though. Yeah, I mean, like, yeah, I know exactly what you mean. And I think I just have to, like, get over it, you know? Because, like, you know, in my younger days, I almost thought, like, that kind of stuff was, like, really cheesy, right? Oh, that's so cheesy. You're so selfish. Yeah.
It's like, I just felt like it was like really cheesy, corny, like stuff. And I was like, I'll never do that. But then like at my age now and like, you know, emotionally, I feel like, hell, like, damn, like that's, that's what you should be doing, man. You should be doing all the cheesy and corny stuff with your family that, that leaves behind memories and not only memories, but leaves behind like the physical evidence of those things too, you know?
Yeah, I mean, I think part of it is this music you have going on in the background that's getting us all emo. I know. It's ridiculous. So another conversation I've been having recently, my dad called me last night in the middle of the night, which is really out of character. And he was just like, so, son, have you guys chosen your Chinese name for the kids yet? Because we haven't talked about that, right? Why does he sound like a Japanese anime character? That's what he sounds like. Okay.
And he asked me if we came up with the Chinese names yet. And I said, well, we have an idea and we've been thinking about it. He's like, okay, well, you know that generationally we have a middle name that goes down by each generation. And grandpa is already prepared for your generation and beyond. And I'm like, okay, I knew about that, but I never asked what the next generation name was. He's like, well, I'm going to tell you. And he told me.
And he's like, look, I'm not forcing you. I'm not saying that you have to do it, but we've been doing it for generations. You know what I mean? He's like, look, it's up to you. It's up to you, but you kind of have to do it. On Grandpa's dying deathbed, he was telling me about the generational names. If you want to be a good son, you know. We don't have to do it. Like literally he was saying that. He was like, look, you don't have to do it. You guys, it's your thing.
But yeah, it's already planned. And he's like, you know, English name. I'm not going to. I'm not going to. I'm not going to be a part of that. But this is the next generation's name. Yeah. My dad hinted at that, too. You know, he clearly told us what the next generation's middle name was going to be in Chinese. And he was like, you know, saying that's like how it's always been in our family. But I don't think we're going to do it.
So yeah, so to me, it was just like tying up the whole generation thing and like, you know, thinking about legacy. But do you feel bad? Like, I feel kind of bad about not doing it though. Because it's like, who knows how long this name or like the whole generational middle name thing has been done, you know, in previous generations. It could have been like for like thousands of years it's been done like that, you know, in our like bloodline. And leave it to Justin Yee. Yeah, leave it to me. To fuck it all up.
In 2022, just be like, nah. You know? You're like, nah, not in the mood. It's not even for any, like, real significant reason, either. It's like, oh, I don't like the sound of that. Yeah, it doesn't sound good. Yeah. It doesn't rhyme. I want something that rhymes. Yeah. Yeah. But, like, I wonder how many things in history have been, like, just stopped dead in its tracks, like, abruptly. That's been going on for ages. Yeah.
Just because someone was like, no, I'm not doing that anymore. You know? Yeah. How many little things, right? It's kind of crazy to think about. Well, even the constitution of keeping the male's last name is a tradition, right? Yeah. Yeah. Are you guys? So what's your deal with that?
well, the kid's going to be my last name. Yeah. So does Vivi, like, does she like, well, I guess that doesn't even really matter here. For her? Yeah. She's been using her own name. Yeah. It's not a big deal. It's about the kids, but the kids are going to be Ling.
They're going to wear that badge. Two boys, man. It's like we're talking so open-minded and stuff like that, but then when it comes down to this, we're like, two guys. It's like, no. Give me the name. Give me the name. My wife better stay in the kitchen. Give me a sandwich. Yeah, make me a sandwich. It's so horrible. Cheers, man. Cheers. But speaking of the whole nostalgia thing, you brought up something that was really interesting to me when I first walked into the studio. Okay. You were saying that
I think you were like taking a shower or something like that. And you were pretending that if somebody asked you... Just to be clear, I wasn't taking a shower when you walked into the studio. You were thinking to yourself, what if somebody asked me the top three albums of all time? Oh, yeah. What would they be? Remember? Well, not even top three. Like, I don't even think we need to be that specific because it's almost impossible to like kind of list them in that kind of specific order, at least for me. But just like what would be like...
In no specific order, your top five favorite all-time music albums. You know? I was just thinking about that. I've been thinking about, like, what would I say? What would I say to that? What if, okay, what if we do this? What if we play each other songs from the albums that we think? Yeah, well, we have music playing already, right? Yeah, let's choose a couple of songs. Let's play it.
We'll even let the audience listen to it, right? Yeah. Okay, yeah. We can do more like a traditional radio type. Yeah, let's play with that. Because I was like, I think the idea of Spawn, I was thinking like,
You know, I think me and you were having a conversation before about like, oh, like what are, what do you think our kids are going to be good at? Right. And whatever, whatever they're good at, whatever we see that they have a passion and talent for, we're going to try to nurture that. Right. We're not going to try to force anything on them. Yeah. But we're going to try to give them like a lot of experiences. Yeah. Nurture is a good word. Yeah. And then if we see like a direction that they gravitate towards, then let's nurture that. Right. And we're kind of like speculating, is it going to be like athletically?
Is it going to be like intellectually, like really good at academics or science? Is it going to be creative, like music or art? Something like that, right? And so I was just thinking, because when I was growing up, I was really, really into music. Like that was my thing. Like that defined me growing up was like music. I even had like a sign in my room that was like... Nickelback. Sorry. Sorry.
Hanson. Like NKOTB. No, I had a sign. You motherfucker. I had a sign in my in my room that was like and this was at an early age. I was like without music, life is meaningless, you know, and like not really kind of define like my attitude growing up. So I was thinking like, huh, is my son going to be like musically inclined?
And maybe to find out or like, you know, part of the process of raising him will be to share kind of like the music I was really into. For sure. Right? Just to see like what he thinks about it and give him a little bit of influence, a little nudging, you know, in that respect. And I was thinking, okay, cool. Well, if what would be like the first albums I would have him here, you know? Yeah.
I'm picturing it's like you play this album. He's like, Papa, poo-poo. Poo-poo. I don't like it. Poo-poo. Or po-po. It's an NWA. Yeah, so, yeah, what? Okay, so, well, because when I think about it, there's a lot of cuss words in these albums. I don't know if I'm going to let them hear at an early age. Is that a problem for you? Swear words? Let's be honest here. That's an interesting... Let's be honest here. Yeah, that's an interesting conversation, right? Because...
I've never been so sensitive like with other children like I won't swear in front of them of course but like I'm like thinking like how will it really negatively affect them like they're gonna learn these words anyway sooner or later and as long as you kind of teach them that these are bad words and you shouldn't say them and they get that point across it's not so horrible that they know those words early I just don't know what the detrimental effect of that is
I don't know. I'm not clear on that. And I don't think if they heard me swear, would they start swearing all the time? Maybe. I mean, kids do that, right? Yeah, they parent. Yeah, they parent. So I guess in a sense, you can't be this role model for them and swearing all the time because then they're going to pick it up for sure. But for them to hear it in a song, as long as they know it's a bad word, I'm not so sure that they'll just start saying that word all the time. I don't know. I don't know. I don't even know what I'm saying.
But I don't know. I'm not going to be, I don't think I'm going to be that sensitive. So yeah, like maybe I can let them hear explicit songs. But okay. So yeah, what would be the albums? What would be the albums? Yeah, because I'm thinking about this right now. I mean, you can have favorite albums, but I feel like favorites, sometimes they come and go.
And sometimes you can have... But there are core foundational ones that no matter how much time passes, you're always like, that is one of my all-time favorite albums. So for me, I think it would be easier for me to choose the most influential. So because we play music, right? So there are certain albums that were very influential and they threw this influence...
became my favorite, you know? So it's easier for me to differentiate in that way. Because in terms of favorite, like my tastes are constantly changing. So even to put something like back in the day, oh, that was like my favorite album. But like... Well, it might not be your current favorite, but you would put it in the pile of all time great albums, greatest albums, right? Yeah, so that's why I say it's more on the influential side for me. And I think we need to caveat before we get into this. I think we need to caveat that...
I'm assuming that all our picks are going to be like American, like Western musicians. Yeah, 100%. 100%. And that's not trying to be like biased in any sense. It's just that due to where we grew up and the culture we grew up in, like it's just going to, that's what we were surrounded by. Yeah. So we don't mean to like,
Like by not choosing any like Chinese artists or Chinese albums, that doesn't mean we don't respect that. It's just that we didn't grow up with that. But how about this? I'll throw a bonus one after we play a couple of songs of the first song I learned to sing in karaoke in China. Oh, is it the one you still sing to this day all the time? Probably. Yeah. But anyway. You show off. You always show off. Hey, look, I can sing a song in Chinese. Anyway. Anyway.
So why don't you kick it off, Justin? Okay, um... The first one that comes to mind... How about this? You search for it, you look for it, you put it in. Can I just tell you and be my BK? Why? I wanna surprise. I'm lazy. I wanna surprise. Um... Okay, the first one that almost pops up in my mind when I think of all-time... My all-time favorites is... How do I... How do you put it to English? I'm pressing on the emojis.
I'm so bad at this. Jesus Christ. I don't know this new iPhone thing. I use all the old iPhone stuff. I don't know these screens. Okay, let me tell you. Tribe Called Quest. It's hip-hop. Tribe Called Quest. And the album is Beats, Rhymes, and Life. They did plenty of great albums. I think everyone has a different Tribe album that's their favorite. But for me, it was Beats, Rhymes, and Life. And the reason is... I, uh...
I used to stay up late in my room writing papers for school. And I was almost like a huge procrastinator. I never did good in school. So I would almost wait till like the night before the paper was due to write like a whole paper that was like assigned like months ago. Oh, yeah.
And I would stay up all through the night pulling all nighter to cram out this bullshit that I'm just like spewing onto a piece of paper. And this album helped me get through that. This album, I almost pumped this album. I almost pumped this album when I used to skateboard. I used to skateboard a lot. When I would snowboard, I almost threw on this album. And it's... Okay, let's do... Oh, that's the radio version though.
Let's try this. Is this Once Again? Mm-hmm. All right, let's listen to it for a second. ♪
The thing about this, so I think you chose an amazing album. I mean, personally, I would have put Tribe Called Quest, Midnight Marauders as one of my top five. So we won't play that since we already got Tribe Called Quest going. But so, yeah, I got respect for this group. OK, and it's to me, it's like it's 90s hip hop.
you know, classic, classic East Coast, East Coast style. This is East Coast style. New York. And,
Yeah, this is classic. I mean, anybody who's anybody who understands hip-hop will at the very least give the flowers to Tribe Called Quest. Even if you don't like it, at least you give flowers. I've never met a single person in my life who was a hip-hop head that didn't like Tribe. And that didn't highly respect Tribe. You know, it goes to say, because I didn't even know that one of your favorite albums was a Tribe album.
Because you see me as a rock head, right? Yeah. So like, what does that say that like, and we didn't grow up together. We didn't know we met in China. Yeah. So what does that say that we both have one of their albums as like our all time favorite albums? Like, what does that say about this group? Yeah. It's crazy. Tribe Called Quest, man. I mean, you can't, you can't go wrong. I mean, many of you might have already know this group and listen to their songs. But if you don't,
Check it out. Tribe Called Quest. 100%. All right, your turn. All right, I'm going to go easy first. So as I look up this band, I don't really have stories for them, to be honest. But how can you not have a story if they've been such a big part of your life? Yeah. Which is kind of like the criteria you set. Yeah.
How can you not have a story? So with this band, I guess the closest story I can give is I never really listened to this band until about senior year. Well, like, yeah, senior year or so in high school. And I only knew them from their radio hit,
which everybody knew at that time and I didn't really like that radio hit that much. It was okay. But it wasn't until I got exposed to their other albums that made me go nuts. And this album in particular, which I know a lot of people in China like them as well, this band, but this album to me is the closest thing to a perfect rock album
that I've heard. And obviously, I mean, I'm a rock head. I play rock and roll music and stuff like that. So like, to me, and I see, it just shows that I'm looking at the album right now and I can't even pick a song because I love every freaking song on this. It's hard. No, I think it's going to be hard for any of these albums that we're going to bring up because I think they're our favorite for a reason. Yeah. Because I won't name the album because I have other albums on my list.
But when I really think about it, it was maybe like only one or two songs on the album that I really liked. So it was more about that song. Yeah. But if we're talking albums, I can't put that. The album has to have at least half of the songs are like hits for you. And even if you don't like the song, it's still going to hit for you. You know what I mean? Like that kind of thing. So here we go. So my band, I'll just pick a song. I'll just pick any song. It's got a fucking intro. Have you listened to this album? This is Radiohead.
This is gonna sound blasphemous. I never really got that into Radiohead. But it's just that because I never really heard a lot of their songs. You never got into the Radiohead? So this is the album that they're in? So there are like two, three songs of theirs that I really, really like. But I know they have such a huge discography that they have so many, many albums, so many songs. So many. So I never fully appreciated their entire work like a lot of Radiohead people do.
So people who are into Radiohead, I mean, this is like the last pure rock album that they did before they started getting into electronic and more interesting avant-garde type of music, which I like as well. But for me, being more of a purest rock head, this album was such a good rock album. Was the song Creep on this album? No. That's a different album? That's a different album. It's Pablo Honey. So...
Yeah, so this album, I remember for the longest time when people would ask if you went to... If you got stranded on a desert island, you can only bring one album. Which album would you bring? And I would say this album. Why? Why is this album... I just think that every song is just brilliantly written. I mean, it's not just... I mean, you can see their artistic... Like...
The structures of the song are not so ABAB. They're intricate, yet at the same time catchy, but at the same time emotional and interesting melodies, brilliant musicianship. I would highly recommend you to give this album a try. So yeah, this is one of my choices. Okay, very strong, very strong. All right, me, I don't know why, but I'm going to take it back.
I want to get surprised. I don't want to see what you're going to pick. Oh, okay. Just play it. Just play it. I just want to react. Okay. Don't make me type that shit. Ooh, yes. This is the album. Okay. Oh, but this is a great song, too. Isn't it? I just went into it right away. Should we just let this play out a little bit? I love this song. I'm just going to let it play out. This is not my pick. This is just on your playlist. This is still the Benz. Radiohead. They had a lot of hits on this. Two jumps in a red. You think that's cool? Watch it all.
It's hard to exit out of this song. It's gonna be like this really hard-hitting song. Yeah, I see what you're saying about this group, you know? You should listen to it. No, I know this song. No, the album. Oh, okay, okay, okay. Because especially if you're just chilling and just want to listen to a good album, from top to bottom, every song is good. All right, well, my next song is gonna be like a sharp left turn then.
From this vibe. I don't expect anything less. I love that riff. I love this riff. Great riff. And I like the understated drums in the back and it just hits and syncopates right when it needs to. Look at you reacting as if this is your favorite album. Come on. What are you doing? What are you doing? I'm hijacking your favorite album. Okay. Okay, here we go. Here's one. Really? Yeah.
Wow. We're going a little Southern. Yeah. A little Southern style. ATL, baby. Southern, play-a-listic, Cadillac, funky music. Interesting. I did not expect you to choose this. Outkast, Southern, play-a-listic, Cadillac, funky music is one of my all-time favorite albums. Wow. Of all time. Of all time. Really? Yeah.
I used to pump this all the time and get into a real vibe with this. And this is one of those albums, like the full album, I don't even need to select a song, I just let it play. I mean, yeah. And every song is a banger. I had this album. I had this album. Every song is a banger. And what makes it crazier is this was like their very first album. Oh yeah, that's right. As a group. And they recorded this when they were really young, when they were still in high school. And they recorded this in a basement.
So it's like, it's not like, it's like so raw, but it's so good that they created at such an early age. And it was like their very first album they ever put out in high school. Yeah, I remember when they came out, they created a buzz. Oh, because of this album. It's like everyone's like, what? Like, who are these guys? Play a little stick, you have a laugh, music.
Dude, I haven't heard this in ages! Nice! That's crazy, that's a vibe right there. Wow.
The bass? You know, I mean, okay, so when this group came out, OutKast, I remember this album came out, it caused a lot of waves, but then I feel like the next album, I think it was Equemini or something like that. Was Equemini the next album? I think so.
I think Aquaman I can't remember. Because I remember that album got really high reviews, right? But I don't remember much music off of it. And then you remember how they started kind of splitting apart? Big Boi and Andre? Is it 3000 or 2000? I think so, it's 3000, right? Yeah, I think so. It's Andre 3000. Yeah.
It was in 2000. And then you saw Andre was really much more into soul funk and experimental. Meanwhile, Big Boi is just pure hip-hop. Like rap. Rap. Not even hip-hop. He's a rap. He's Big Boi. Big Boi. That was pretty interesting. All right. Good choice. All right. So I'm going to choose for my next one something I think you've probably never heard of.
And most people probably haven't heard of, I would guess. They're not that famous. But in terms of influential, this is a time period in my life that really influenced my music writing.
for a period of time. So I'm going to pick one of their albums. All right, ready? It's got a good beat, man.
It's hard to get out of these songs, man. Once you get into the groove, it's like, ah. Feels good. Like, they were... I'm sorry. Before I go on. So they were popular. They were like an MTV kind of hip-hop group. But they weren't like super mainstream, like huge, right? They always kept it real. I felt like they always kept it real.
And they always did what they wanted. Even though it was like what I really respected out of them too was like they didn't like like they stayed true to their name OutKast because even I feel like in the hip hop community a lot of it was like real gangster like you know bling bling you know especially during the 90s right all the music videos
They almost, like they didn't, they never really bought into all of that and they kind of did their own thing. They were very experimental. Did a lot of things that like normal hip hop groups like wouldn't even think to do or wouldn't like even like would be probably worried about their reputation, you know, in certain ways. Yeah. All right. So this is definitely going to turn like in a very different direction. I'll just, I'll just pick, I'll just, I'm just going to go. I'm just going to go. Okay. Just do it. All right. You're making pieces.
No, that change, that change surprised me. Okay. No, this sounds great so far, but I still feel as it's like very Radiohead-ish. It's in the same vein. It's like that stressed kind of singing that... What group is this? I'll wait for the chorus to kick in. Okay. But a very influential band as well. So this band is called Sunny Day Real Estate and the album is called Diary.
And so when this album came out, it was in the late 90s, mid 90s, mid 90s, actually. Or maybe it was early 90s, early to mid 90s. This is a while ago, right?
And this, a lot of people call them like one of the fathers of emo. Yeah, definitely. Right? And so, because when they came out, emo was not really a thing yet. Okay. So they came out with this little bit more of like, you know, riffy, you know, guitar, riffy guitar, sometimes weird time signatures, you know, that you see a lot, you hear a lot in emo groups. And, you know, like the soft but loud screams and stuff like that, that you hear a lot in later emo.
And so, plus, he wears his emotions on his sleeve. So, yeah, this is like early emo.
And I remember the first time I heard this, I was like, this is not anything I've heard before. You know, I was listening to, at that time, it was like more like, you know, mainstream MTV music. And I'm like, who's this? And it just hit me like a ton of bricks. And I just couldn't get enough of them. And I remember I was sitting in my room being fucking emo with the lights off, you know, and like listening to this band.
But I bleed myself. Oh, I bleed myself. I never listened to those kind of lyrics before, you know? A hundred wines. That's an inside joke right there. So yeah, Sunny Day Real Estate, Diary. I don't listen to them at all anymore. I'm not really into it anymore. But in terms of influence, yeah, they influenced me. All right, balls in my court now, huh? Yeah.
So are we still going along the vein of influence then? It's up to you, man. Just pick out some things that really mean something to you, you know? This is kind of fun. Yeah. Okay. And we're hitting like different genres of music, which is interesting. All right. Well, you're definitely going to know this one. But in terms of influence, it's like... Oh, I know what it is.
I don't think you do. I mean, given a certain amount of guesses, I think you would guess it, but... I don't think... Everybody! Yeah, yeah. Okay. Okay. Oh! Well played. Totally changing the game.
Yeah, man. Little Rage. It's amazing if you think about what they did in the early 90s. I think it was 91 when it came out.
They were playing in DC, Washington DC. I had this like VHS tape my friend like sent to me. You know? When I was in like 8th grade or whatever it was. And it was them with a shitty VHS recording of them in DC. I'm like, who the hell are these guys? They're crazy! They completely changed the game.
A lot of people say that they need to be like... Like, they're relevant now. Like, they should be... Oh, no, they went on tour again. Did they? Yeah, yeah, they were just on tour. Okay. Zach De La Roca, he broke his ankle on the stage and did the rest of the tour sitting down. They did sit at the tour. Wow. So, yeah, so they were like...
you know, put their political activists and brought that into the music. Very political. Right. And they're just like, they're exactly what their name is. Rage against the machine. Yeah. Right. Rage against the system, the institutions that keep us down. Yeah. And it's just all this anger. Right. In their music, all this energy and anger. Yeah. Oh God. This hit me so hard when I was young. It's like, Oh God. It's just like lay out all your angst. Yeah.
They were one of my favorite bands too. I feel like they were one of those bands that actually bridged the gap between mainstream and indie and people from both sides loved Rage. Because they had a great message. It's basically standing up for a lot of different type of rights and stuff like that and
They brought rap and rock together. Tom Morello is one of the most brilliant guitarists in the world. So many different influences come together. And they're so good together. Because later on, when Rage broke up, the band tried to start new bands with different lead singers. And it just wasn't the same. I loved Audioslave, but it just wasn't the same. And this...
They had something really special together. And the chemistry they have and the songs they write and Zach's voice and their energy and everything. It just works. It just works. Classic album. All time. This is like one of those easy classics that anyone can be like, yeah, that's it. And they're so influential in the music landscape. Right? I mean, if you haven't heard of Rage Against the Machine, I guarantee you, if you're a music lover, you hear them, you're going to be like, what the fuck? Even today, they still sound like...
Pretty cool. Yeah. All right. So my next one, I'm going to bring it down a little bit. I'm going to bring it down a little bit. Of course you will. You know, I mean, I'm not going to keep adding. Bring it back to the emo. Yeah. You're starting to understand like, you know, who I am. I am a bit emo. And this is going to bring that emo to the ultimate lows. I have to give some love to this though. Tom Morales solos. He is amazing. I remember the first time watching him play. I was like,
Is that human? Mind-blowing. Mind-blowing. Mind-blowing. Yeah. Like, who can you say that, like, when you hear them or watch them, you're like, mind-blowing. All right, we're going to move on? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'll just do a little setup because I know, I'm pretty sure you don't know this band. Basically, they are a very small band, but this band got me through college, through all the heartbreak that I had.
Okay. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Here we go. I'll play one of my favorite songs by them. It's a long song, so you can hear a little bit of it, but you'll get the down tempo, and then I'll share some stories. Okay. I got it. Of course. Of course, Javi. Let me paint a picture. Okay. You paint away. In college, I was very, very sad and emo, full of heartbreak. And I would lay in my bed, and I'd install a blue light in my lamp next to my bed.
a blue light bulb and I would turn that on and turn off the rest of the lights and put this song on on repeat and just lay there listening to the song thinking about all the stuff that just went through so this band's called Red House Painters the song's called Katie's Song it's their self-titled album
yeah, their music is, I mean, not all their music is this low, but, but, but they're, it's off the, they're on a label called 4AD, which is known for a lot more of the, some goth, some shoegaze, a little bit more of the underground quote unquote type of music.
But if you listen to his lyrics, the way he delivers them... Without you is all my life amounts to... Without you is all my life amounts to... That's the freaking saddest thing ever. Anyway, yeah. So I would just groove to this and just lay there with a blue light. And it was a wonderful feeling. It felt good.
to listen to sad shit, you know? Oh, no, I totally get that. Okay, I pretend like I laugh at you. I totally have my own emo, like, realm of music all the time. Like, it feels cathartic to feel sad in the moment, right? Especially when you're alone, you're cruising down the street. Like, it felt like that I should be feeling this way. Yeah, a lot of people...
It made me happy to feel that way. Yeah, I've had conversations with people who don't listen to this type of music and if they heard it and they'd be like, oh, this emo shit or this like sad goth shit. They don't understand. It's like, yeah, maybe it's sad and the lyrics are like gut-wrenching. But when you're down and you hear this, it just makes you feel that you're not alone.
That's what it does, right? It makes you feel like you're not alone and everything's going to be okay. I'm very open-minded when it comes to music. I can get down with anything. Okay, so for me, this was definitely, this was during my adolescent period back in Jersey. And this artist was with me for a long time.
and uh yeah let me let me look for some songs it it it's like my emo thing but it's different yes indeed and here comes emptiness crashing love or hate because i've been with witches and i've been wouldn't have worked i like this so now it's just another lonely day
Ben Harper. Oh, it was Ben Harper? Ben Harper. I never listened to them. I mean, I know Ben Harper, but I've never listened to him before. Ben Harper got me through a lot. And I'm the only thing I've even told anyone this. Ben Harper got me through so much. And this song got me through a lot. But this album, Fight For Your Mind, was a great album too. There's so many good songs on that album. I could say.
For some reason I never thought that he played this kind of music. I thought it was more like Americana type of... That's like later. That's like more later on when he got really famous. This was when he was still underground. No one knew him, but I was really into this album when like not many people knew about him. Do you have a happy song? Like you hear it and it gets you like happy?
I'm not into that kind of- those kind of songs. I'm just more into songs that just gets me like... Because I just suddenly thought about... I have a happy song, right? That I literally put on as- at first as a joke because it's- it's not a joke song, but I don't know why I remember telling my friends like this is my happy song. They're like, "That's the song you like?" I'm gonna play it for you. Yeah, just play it. I mean, I love this group. We were talking about this group before.
I love this group. Very influential as well. But I just want to change the pace a little bit. I can't find it. I can see how this song can help you through some down times. It's got that feel. It's got that vibe. It's bringing me back right now.
Is that why you got teary-eyed? Alright, so now that it's ending, we're gonna pop it up a little bit. Oh yeah! Okay! This song always made me smile! Uh-huh. You know this jamming. Yep. So this is the far side.
with the song Soul Flower. Okay, The Far Side, they deserve us to play more than one song of theirs. Of any group, The Far Side deserves more than one song played.
Well, okay. If we're going to do that, then we'll play one more song after this because that song I have a memory with you. So basically, after we listen a little bit of Soul Flower E. Happy, everybody happy. Everybody happy. Right? You can see how it gets you in a good mood, right? Yeah. It's a very positive feeling song. Yeah. Yeah. So...
I'm gonna see if you can guess. So the next song I want to play from them, I have a very fond memory of when we first met early on. We didn't know each other that well, but I think we were somewhere or somehow this song came up and next thing you know, we were sharing verses. And I felt like that was like a bonding moment. You probably don't even remember, but I remember. I don't remember. Yeah, but I remember this because we were sharing verses. I'm like, oh, you like this song too. Okay, okay, okay. Yeah.
All right, I'm just going to go with it. This song. This song is called Passing Me By on the same album. So yeah, we were spitting verses off of this. In my younger days, I used to fly a ride. Went to school, carry lunch in the bag. I put my apple for my teacher because I knew I could.
Always got mad when the class was dismissed. This is fun. This is fun. Honestly, I don't know if our listeners are enjoying this as much as we are. We might never do this again. I hope you guys are. This is a lot of fun. Yeah, I hope everybody's discovering some old songs.
not only listen to new songs. Hey, in the comment sections, like, tell us some of your favorite songs. Yeah. And let us, like, maybe some we've never even heard of that we can explore ourselves. Yeah. Oh, my name last. Lookie, lookie last. Oh, God. This song. This song brings me way back. I mean, this is also one of those songs that I think everybody agrees that it's a classic song. Yeah. Oh, God. I'm, like, my mind is blanking right now.
So many songs Hunter. How about this? How about this? Cause we've been kicking everything back in the 90s. Let's go with some stuff that's a little bit more 2000s to now. Anything. Okay, well then it's gonna be tougher for me because as the more recent we get, the more few songs I like. Um...
Yeah, it just hits differently with I think the older you get right? Yeah, well these are so it hits differently because like we grew up in the like our adolescent periods with these songs. You're still looking for your identity. You're like you're you're you're soaking in life, you know music speaks to you and
So when you're a little bit older, I just think you look at music a little bit differently because lyrically, maybe it's not going to hit you as hard as it used to when you were young because you're looking for meaning constantly. But as you get older, maybe you're looking for meaning a little bit less.
Okay, I know... Okay. This is a huge, big-name group. You're gonna know. But I know you don't really like this group. But it's from an album, a world-famous album that a lot of people know. Linkin Park. Fuck you, dude. And then... Actually, don't shit on Linkin Park, man. They were good in their own way. Okay. But this song, in particular...
I used to pump this song in my headphones while going to school, while taking classes. Oh, so you're still keeping it old school? Yeah, I'm keeping it old school. Oh, this is really old school. Okay, okay, Creed. This is before, like, even kind of before our time. Okay. So I would shit on this band, you said? You would shit on it. Ooh. Really?
Why would I shit on this band? You don't like Pink Floyd. I've asked you before. You're like, you're never into Pink Floyd. Yeah, but I mean, I wouldn't shit on them. I mean, they're a very influential band. I mean, I wouldn't shit on them. It's not like if you put on Nickelback, I would shit on them. Okay, sorry. I thought you would shit on Pink Floyd. Because every time I brought up Pink Floyd, you were like, eh. Yeah, well, that's the thing. I would say, eh, because I'd never really gotten into them. But I wouldn't shit on them.
It's just not my thing. It's just because back in school, I had biases. Because I had, there were people that I saw that were really into Pink Floyd. And I'm like, you're kind of cheesy. That's the only reason why. Yeah, it's alright. Are we going to go old school now? Is that what's going on? I was listening to a lot of oldies too. I was a kid. Alright, then if that's the case. So this band really like, you're really into. Pink Floyd.
For a period. I wasn't into the band, but there was a few songs that I was really into. But this album, because it was a double disc album, it was an album I listened to quite a lot. And this was during my more rebellious phase when I was like, fuck school. And I was listening to this in school. Alright. I know what I'm going to play next time.
Oh, I remember this was right after one of my friends, my school friends got expelled from our school. So I started pumping this music and I was trying to get our class president to play this song over the loudspeakers during assembly for our school, like over the entire PA system. He never agreed to it, obviously, but I was like adamantly trying to get him to play this music. Really? Yeah, in our school. Because I was just angry, like my friend got expelled, you know. Which one should I choose?
So the next one I'm going to play is probably one of the most influential bands that I have ever listened to. I used to hang this lead singer's poster above my bedpost. Bowie. No? I'm not gonna answer that. But it's not Bowie. Sting? I just smack you. You mean the police? Yeah! No.
Why would you like the police? I love the police. No, no, no. I thought you meant like Sting as in like his solo. Like that was it. I did mean that. I mean, the police is much better than Sting. Well, because you said, yeah, the police is much better than Sting. But you said the lead singer. All right. I'm just going to go. No, this isn't the care. What is this? This is Joy Division. Oh, okay. Yeah. Love will tear us apart. And this is their most poppy song. I mean, a lot of...
Some people said my band sounded a little bit like them. And I'm definitely guilty of it because I purposely made my voice a little bit lower. Because I was so influenced by them. Yeah, so Joy Division. Definitely one of the most influential bands for me. Do you have any of the songs of your old band in there?
I mean technically yeah You want to play? No The listeners want to know Are you serious? What the fuck Do 100 Wines I'm trying to think where would it be I know where it is You like that song the best No it's only the one that I remember the lyric of I was like 100 Wines? Fuck Your band was good man You had a good band You had a good band
For you guys that don't know Howie, well we both used to be in a band, different bands. But Howie was in the band and he was the lead singer in his band. Yeah, I have. Okay, so I'll play one song. I'll play dance. That's the one everyone likes. Okay. Remember this? Yeah, I remember. We'll only play a little bit. I don't want to play too much. What was your band's name again? Bastion. Bastion. This is Howie singing. I don't know why I'm laughing. I don't know why I'm laughing.
I think it's embarrassed. Yeah, this is good. Haven't heard this in a long time. You sound different. But of course, it was so long ago. This is when I gave up trying to sound like Joy Division. So my voice became a little bit... This is a solid song, man. Like, I laugh at you, but this is a solid song. It's got a little something-something. It still holds up. I mean, what year was this? This is, what, 2003? That's aging me right now.
I mean, would you be able to put the genre on this? Just indie rock. Indie, right? Is that a genre? Like indie rock? General. That would be the general category. All right, pick something. And it's funny because I'm imagining Howie then and...
If we had run into each other at our lives back then, we would definitely not have been friends. We would not have been friends. We would not have been friends. No. You would not have liked me. You probably wouldn't like me. You probably called me like a... No, I was pretty open-minded back then. I think you would be like too cool for school. Probably. I was pretty... Yeah, because I'd be like into hip-hop and you'd probably be like too cool for school for that. No, but at the same time, I was pretty cool. I mean, I was pretty flexible. Like...
I mean, I still listen to hip hop. I mean, I love rap, you know, but I was definitely in quote unquote in the scene, you know? Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. So yeah, that's a little sum sum. What if we, let's do one more each. One more each. How about that? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. One more each. Okay. Of all the heartbreaks in my life, this song was the soundtrack, I think, to my greatest heartbreak.
You know this song. You know this song. Everyone knows this song. Everyone knows this song. I mean, you don't need to tell me that. It's cheesy. But at the time, they weren't like, you know, it was, I mean, they were pretty famous, but like, it wasn't as cheesy as, you know, at the time than it is now. It's like pretty cheesy. I mean, how many times have we done a duet on this? Yeah, I know. Obviously. Obviously. This is our favorite song. But like, this got me through my biggest heartbreak. Wow. Come up to me.
So this was our one of our go-to's.
Yeah. Whenever we hung out together in a karaoke place. We have a few go-tos from this band. Coldplay, but yeah. But this was, I think this is like the main one. Like this is the one that we meet people shut up. Like we took this seriously. Yeah, people are laughing, having a good time. We're like, shut up. No, we're about to sing the song. Yeah. Like people having conversations, we give them the dead eye. Can I be fully honest? I've never even told you this before. I'm going to be dead honest. All right. I don't even like it when you sing the song with me. Like I want the song all to myself.
And inside I'm like, okay, fine. I got to share it with Aoi. Can I be honest with you? I feel the same way.
I'm kidding. I don't feel the same way. But what I was going to say was that I felt it. I actually felt it. From me? Oh, yeah. I felt it. Why? I would give you like this thing, guys. No, I can sometimes see like the way the eye kind of lingers a little too long sometimes when I come in with a verse, you know?
I feel like you're just treading all over me when I'm like, this is like my song. Here's the difference. If you've never been in the same room as us when we sing is when Justin sings a song, like he puts his passion, like his eyes are closed, you know, his hands are up, like, like, like going with the vibe, like the, the actual waves, the sound waves as he sings, you know, I'm in my own universe in his own universe.
And I swear to you, if I were to feel what he was feeling, I would imagine floating on clouds with no sounds but his own voice. That's exactly what it is. Propelling you through the air. That's exactly what it is. That's spot on. And then when my voice comes in, like all of a sudden he comes back down to earth, gives a stink eye to me. But at the same time, we've been doing it for so long, so he just has to deal with it. Yeah.
It's so true. Yes. So true. Every word. So I think staying on this karaoke kick, I alluded to this before that one of my go-to karaoke songs is also the first Chinese song I ever learned. And I'll tell the story behind it while we start playing it. So let's play it now. It's famous. It's an old song for the Chinese listeners out there.
Yeah, this is your Howie Showoff song. Especially when there's girls in the room. So I'll tell the story of why I learned this song. Because when I moved here, I didn't speak Chinese. So I was learning Chinese and I had a Chinese tutor. And I remember my mom was asking me, you know, when you go out with your friends, when you go to karaoke, what do you sing? Do you only sing English songs?
I'm like, yeah, obviously, I'm only going to sing English songs because... Shut up for a second. Shut up. Sing it. Take it away. Karaoke. Do it. So, basically, yeah, obviously, I only sing English songs and...
No, seriously, sing. Okay, so she goes, you can't just keep singing English songs. You got to learn some Chinese songs, right? I'm like, I don't know any Chinese songs. And then my mom's like, you know, being, helping me. She's like, look, I got you. I got you. I'm going to send you a song you should learn, right? And I'm like, okay. So she sent me Zhang Xueyou, Wen Biyan. And I listened to it. I'm like...
Without knowing anything, it sounds old. It's like 80s, I think. Or 80s or 90s. And I was like, wow, okay. But I kind of like it. I kind of like it. So I learned it. And it's pretty easy. And I remember the first time I unveiled it, I was so happy. I was so proud of myself for singing a fully Chinese song.
You sing it well. You sing it well. Yeah. And it became like this song. Like, I actually do like this song. It's a great song. Because a lot of people, I mean, for the Chinese listeners, this is a classic song, right? It's like, you know, someone playing, I don't know, Michael Jackson bad or some shit. I don't know. Just like random shit, right?
But like everybody knows it, you know, whenever I choose a song, everybody sings along because they all know it. Every karaoke place will have this song without a doubt. But I pretty much guarantee that like the young generation, because, you know, I don't go out anymore really. But I'm pretty sure the young generation, if I were to choose a song, it would probably be like, 老套. It's like this old gang. Maybe. You know what I just realized? What? We're not going to be able to air this episode.
Oh, because of this? No, because of all the songs. Copyright issues, right? I don't know. Maybe it'll air in China. I don't think we can air it in the West. Well, we're talking over it, so I think it might be okay. Because I think it messes with the... Does it? We can try. We can try it. But I don't know if that...
Will we get any copyright infringement? At the most, we just take it down. On the Western platforms too? Or do they come and sue you? They're not going to sue you. We're not doing anything for advertisement. I don't know. They just tell you to take it down. You're not going to get sued for this shit. We're not making money off of this. It's not a business.
By the way, this episode is sponsored by Cambly. All right. That was fun. I mean, that was going through all the different types of music and stuff. That was pretty cool. Cheers, man. Cheers. It's like sharing a little bit of a childhood in a way, but not like, you know, there's more adolescence and teenage years and college years a bit.
And you know, it's crazy because I think about all the songs that we played and I think about all the emotion-filled moments that those songs were soundtracks to in my life. And I wonder, like my kid, he's gonna have his own emotion-filled soundtracks, right? Like for his life and his moments that I'm not gonna be a part of.
Things that really vibe for him and like, you know, tug at his heartstrings and he's going to have his own heartbreaks and emo moments, right? And I'm, you know, I just, that's crazy to me. That's crazy. I can't help but be emotionally impacted by music. It just is. Like if someone punches me in the face, it's going to hurt. I can't help but to be hurt, you know? Like I don't have any control over that. The pain. It's the same thing with my feelings emotionally.
when I hear certain songs and music in general. - And it blows your mind that some people cannot connect to music in that way. - It blows my, yeah, exactly. It blows my mind that some people just aren't emotionally impacted by music to that intensity. And I just don't, some people just not at all. Like we both know people that just like are not like, they're not. - Yeah, sure. I think it's just the full spectrum of being human, right? Just there's different priorities, there's different focuses.
I think that's all it is. Okay. Yeah. I mean, I'm glad that we both can connect on that music wise, even though you have horrible taste, but like, cheers, brother. You email.
Yeah, let's hear some comments. What do you guys think about our playlist? A couple of songs that we chose. Obviously, there are just a few selects that in the moment we brought out. Yeah, and if you never want to hear anything like this again, also just let us know and we will not do this again. But we had to indulge ourselves. Yeah, that was fun though. That was fun. All right. Okay. Well, that's that. I'm Justin. And I'm Howie. All right, guys. Be good. Be well. Peace.
♪ ♪