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Justin sitting down in his chair, getting comfortable with the short hair, with Eric over here scratching balls, and I'm here with a little bear crawls. All right. It's good to be doing this again. Ha ha! Life's Mixtape, Volume 2. Volume 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2.
Yeah. Oh, wait, we got, let's play a song. What is this? Oh, Joji? Yeah, I just threw some random stuff. All right. What's on your mind, guys? Are we, uh, we got live mixtape? Wait, we all have some songs that we want to play today, right?
I'm actually really curious about what songs Eric is going to bring up. Yeah, for sure. Was music a big part of your life, Eric, growing up? No. Like emotionally? No. Not emotional. Like a robot? Yeah, pretty much. Chat GPT over here? Yeah, like an angry robot. Should we have Eric go first? It's interesting that you say this notion of having a bond with someone over music. Yeah.
Well, I think it was just because Justin and I had that background. We both played music. We had some similar, especially hip-hop artists that we liked and a couple of rock bands. And we kind of bonded over that, right? And it became like this connection that we had, plus the songs we would sing in karaoke. But with Eric, it was not through music. We bonded through other means. Okay, well, let's catch some people up on, if they didn't hear our first episode...
Life's Mixtape. Kind of like the genesis of us doing this was really because like, you know, like to echo what Javi just said, like music was a big emotional catalyst for us throughout our lives, right? Like even still today, but like especially I think during our adolescence when we were growing up, music was kind of like, there was like a soundtrack to our life. So
It was really kind of just the idea of infusing music into our episodes every now and then. Part of the homework was we all come in with at least five songs and let's share. Let's share why we chose these five songs and what kind of meanings they may have and then see where it goes. So why don't you go first? Me? I thought we were going to go first. Eric, why don't you go first? Me go first? Yeah, you kick it off. Me go first? Because you're the new guy. That's the rule. A new guy has to go first.
It's kind of strange. This is the initiation. This is the Faggio because he wasn't here for the first one. So what do I do? Just play it? Okay, hold on. As soon as you recognize it, buzz in and let's see who gets it first. Okay? Are you ready? Let's bump it up. Okay, I'm playing. Okay. Walk to the moon. What's the song? Anna Sun. There you go.
Yes, you like that song. I played it for you and you were like, oh, this song is so good. Let's listen to it for a second. You remember this?
Yeah, but I'm not like, yeah, but I would never have picked this song. Like, I don't even know this song that well. Yeah. So what made you pick this song? Do you remember when we listened to it one time after the show? After the podcast? Yeah. Yeah. Is that what it was? Yeah.
So I don't remember when it was. When we were still at the old studio? Yeah. And it was kind of early on, like relatively early on. And then that was, I don't know, like we had this very emotional moment. And I mean, I remember like we were just playing the song over and over and over, at least in my recollection. What was the emotional moment? What was the emotions? Was it happy? Yeah, it was some bonding experiences. Like we're like, I love you, man. Oh, I feel so bad. I don't like, I'm like, I don't even know this song. Justin erased it from his memory on purpose.
No, no, okay. No, I vaguely remember that. What was the context though? Because if it was impactful for you, I'm sure you remember it pretty well, right? It was more of a feeling. I think we just were really grateful and glad to be together. You know, I think there was quite a bit of like beverages going on and then it was just, you know, it was one of those things where it wasn't... Oh, I kind of, we were dancing, right? We got up and danced. Yeah, we were dancing. Yeah, I think so. Oh my God. Oh, we were wasted. Yeah.
Yeah, we were pretty drunk dancing. Do you remember what we were talking about? Right when you said the dancing, I remember. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we played this really loudly in the room. Over and over. Because it's a happy song. It's like a very positive feeling song. If you saw the music video for this, it's also very positive. So anyways, it was when I think about when I hear this song, I think about us.
in this new phase of the relationship, especially with the podcast and getting that started. Everything that we...
um think of when we think of the podcast when people ask us what are you all about like this song like just instantly evokes that really and then so when i think of this song it's like a modern part it's like a more recent part of my life that involves youtube in particular and there was dancing i think there was food afterwards and like the reason we don't remember it so well is just because we had a lot to drink yeah
But I remember I was acting the fool. We were. We were like rolling on the ground. We were like on the ground under the table, I think. Nice. All right. Eric came out swinging. Yeah, that's good. Okay. Howie, why don't you go? You want me to go? Yeah, why don't you go? All right. Well, if you brought this band up, I mean, I was going to bring a band that's also in a similar, like, I would say genre or decade. But there's story behind this because it brings me
directly back to a certain time. And I just added a song five minutes ago. I wasn't going to pick this song, but I'm going to do it anyway. So... I had this on my list. This was number one on my list. I'll show you right now. Number one on my list. So we're doing a little Foster the People. Pump up the kicks. Can you tell the world that I'm a cigarette man now?
So I think since you had this on your list, I'm sure you can chime in plenty as well. But let me just first say mine.
So basically, the reason why I chose this song, which is probably similar to Justin, is because this brings us back to Roxland when Justin and I created the brand together. And this became our theme song. I don't know why, but I guess we just really liked the song. That was it. It was just a fun song. Yeah, so for those that don't know, Howie and I, we started a clothing brand a long time ago. This was like a whole other life ago.
and in China and we were opening up clothing stores. This song defines that entire period of my life, basically. The Roxland period. And one of my best memories of this is when we first opened a new store and I believe it was Xinjiang of all places, right? And we were playing this music loud in the store and the store is like PA system. And I was just standing in the middle of the store
by myself, just dancing. Just dancing. It just felt like a release in that moment of all this work we had put up leading up to that particular store opening. I remember also Eric met up with us in Chongqing. Yeah. Where he flew out and we hung out. It was good times. It was good times. Yeah, those were wild times, man. We just went around from city to city in China just opening up stores and just experiencing the culture in each city and just having fun.
Moving on, moving on. Okay. Okay, here's one. Here's... This is so your thing. Got your voice. Who's this? Damn you!
It's called Damn Your Eyes by Etta James. Oh, is that a James? Yeah. Okay, so when I was alone in the house playing with Riley. At that time, he was like five, six months old. And I was looking at his eyes and this song came on. And I don't know, man, his eyes. That's your son? Yeah. Yeah.
So you're saying that recent, it's like I have a purpose again, you know? Even just a new attitude internally towards your own life, towards the people around you can be a game changer in and of itself. It's a new kind of rejuvenation of your spirit in a way.
And you know, I'm talking about this like it's so impactful, like it's just one song. But I'm just saying, in that moment, these were the emotions that were flooding in. Yeah, I mean the song is actually not even that important. It's more about the song being either a trigger or a window into what you were thinking. When I look at the lyrics and it starts off and it's powerful,
She says, I can do what I want. I'm in complete control. That's what I tell myself. I've got a mind of my own. I'll be all right. All right alone. So there's this like kind of solitude. Don't need anybody else. I gave myself a good talking to. No more being a fool. But don't you think that describes me? Totally. But I see you and all I remember and like all this stuff. Like when I think about this kind of stuff though, you know how some people, this is different, but they go through like
near-death experiences. And then they come back and then it, like, rejuvenates them, right? They're like, oh, shit, I gotta do things sort of differently. I mean, it's like your chance to kind of... Like, you've done, obviously, probably...
I mean, we have a lot of respect for you. You've done a lot of great things. Maybe you haven't always lived up to exactly what you want to do. And certainly like having a child isn't like sort of your ultimate, you know, it's not like you don't put a trophy on it or anything like that. And at the same time, this is this just rare opportunity to build a relationship with like a human being and like in a completely unique way, right? Like you could be the CEO of a company, could do all these things, but
Um, you could start a band, like all these things you've done, but they're never going to mean as much as like this chance to build this relationship with this human being that pretty much only you can do because it's like your son. Right. And not to put pressure on it because it's all about the journey and the, you know, the time you spend together. But like, how amazing is it that like, he's only a few months old and his father already has this idea. And so hopefully like,
you know, in 20 years and 30 years, when he thinks of you, he's going to be like, oh yeah, my, my dad's like always been there for me. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think don't fuck it up. That's really, don't fuck it up. Okay. Justin. Or as my friend said to me today, this morning, cause I was showing him baby picture. He asked and he was like, oh my God, they're, they're so adorable. And he's like, and I was saying that I'm, I'm, you know, putting a lot of effort and being there for them, spending as much time and appreciating every moment that goes by.
And he's like, remind yourself that when they turn 13 and they say, fuck you, dad. And the guy's gonna fight and he hates you and he's rebellious. Remember this. And that's gonna be tough. These days it's gonna be like five, not 13, like five. But anyways, yeah.
Riley, one day when you hear this, no matter how much you hate your dad, just remember he loves you a lot. Yeah. I'm sorry, guys, for taking it down such a corny, corny story. No, I love it. I love it. So corny. It's so corny. When I talk to my parents this morning, and I get sad sometimes when I think about how far away they are and how little time we probably have together in the grand scheme of things. And then I just...
And I think about them, especially my mom. And I'm like, I know when I was born, she had the same feelings as you. Cause like just how, you know, both of them, of course, but my dad is less sentimental as a person. But so for her whole, my whole life, my mom has probably felt that way. She maybe never articulated in that way, but you know, it's cool that we can talk about these things and that we're in a period of time where we can share these things and record it and have other people listen to it.
Yeah, why don't you, you're up next. Moving on. Moving on. Justin's fighting the tears. Let's leave the cornfields. A lot of corn there. Ooh. The first international song? Yeah.
Very international song. Basically, like anything that's not English is international for you guys. We're so uncultured. Such homebodies. It's like, it's international. Wow. World music. It's not from America. World music. World music.
All right. I'll let you guys ask the questions. Introduce the song. All right. It's called Me Gustas Tu. I actually don't really know what that means. I think it's something like I like you. I like you. No, you like me. Or is it I like you, you like me? Me gusta tu, I like you. Me gustas tu? Yeah. Okay.
probably butchering it but it's by an artist I think he's actually French but grew up in Spain so he's very popular in Europe and his name is Manu Chao M-A-N-U C-H-A-O I lived in Argentina for a little while a while back
And then I met a bunch of friends down there. It was a very interesting time in my life. And we went on some road trips around Argentina and we listened to Manu Chao. Oh, wow. Yeah. He's kind of like what you listen to on road trips when you're in Latin America. So when you listen to this, what's the emotion that comes out? What are some images that come to your mind? I think about this time...
earlier in my life where you know like it's just the start of my kind of that transition between like school and like your career and you're trying to find yourself and I hadn't really lived internationally at that point I mean I've lived in China many years now and so it was like the first time to just kind of spread my wings a little bit go somewhere totally different like meet a whole different set of characters and live a whole different lifestyle that I never imagined I would be living so it was fun
Like, it was just very, very random that, like, you would just do something like that. And it was sort of like I met someone who knew someone who knew someone, and then I ended up in Argentina for, like, a year. That's cool. Really, really cool. So, yeah, that was my first exposure to something different. But he has some really great songs. Like, when I listen to it, it just makes me happy. Okay, here's an interesting thing to ask you, Eric. Because you have said several times on this show that
Because you're always kind of fighting this negativity bias, you're very intentional and mindful of being positive. Surrounding yourself with positive people, looking at things through a positive lens,
So does that also apply to your musical tastes? Do you enjoy listening to sad songs? Good question. Good question. I listen to all kinds of music. My preference in music doesn't really... I don't have a whole lot of intention in that. So you don't avoid sad songs? No. Okay. Because I feel like some people do. Well, I don't avoid sad things either. I just try to avoid...
I try to avoid situations that are not productive. But I think everyone tries to do that, right? Well, no, I'm asking that because there are some people out there... And Howie and I talked a little bit about this last time we did this. There are people out there that actively avoid or dislike sad songs. And they're like, that just makes me sad. Why would I want to listen to that? I want to be happy. I want to listen to happy music. Why do I want to be sad? Why do I want to make myself sad? And I get that, but...
But on a whole nother level, I don't understand at all because I really, really enjoy listening to sad songs too. Well, I'd love to maybe as we get into the conversation, first I'd like to hear
hear about like what you consider stats. Like I never thought of it that way. Let's put it that way. I don't ever have a filter like that. And the other thing is that, and I don't know if this has come across before, but I'm naturally an optimistic and happy person. Like in general, I'm just a naturally optimistic and happy person, but I have moments where,
like throughout my life every day where I have a lot of negativity but I'm actually like a very happy person that has a lot of negativity which is a weird thing and I think that's what has helped me try to be more positive because like I'll have like I'll think the world is ending and the next day I wake up and I'll be like fine so it's like a lot of mood swings and ups and downs but
But like my general mood is happiness. It's just that I have a lot of negativity. So it's a weird combination, isn't it? That's weird. Like you're generally a happy person, but then you're like, oh no, that's going to go wrong or that's going to run. I'm such an idiot, whatever, but I'm happy. I don't know.
You put a lot of pressure on yourself, but it doesn't mean you're unhappy, I suppose. But I would be interested in hearing some sad songs. I have listened to like, you know, when Anna and I broke up a couple of different times, then I'm not fucking listening to like Anna's son. I mean, I don't know. Like personally, no matter if I'm happy or sad, I mean, I just need sad songs. I love sad songs. Yeah.
it just cuts you to the core. And like, I don't know. I just feel like for any type of emotional enjoyment, I need to be on a roller coaster. I need to feel something, you know, it's just, well, in a weird way, sad songs make you happy. I don't know if you understand that, right? Like, yeah, like it makes you happy in a way. It's like, it can, you can really connect with that emotion intentionally. Yeah. I mentioned that last time in the first mixtape,
I brought up a really sad song and I said that I used to listen to it in the dark and like, you know, red or blue light on. Exactly. And I'd be like tearing up and crying, but it's the fucking best feeling. It was, it felt so good. Cathartic. Yeah. Yeah. You know, like, and that totally makes sense. It's like,
watching a horror, I don't like horror film, by the way, I don't like watching horror films, but like lots of people like watching horror films, but it doesn't mean that they're like serial killers. It's for that emotional release. So sometimes you watch or listen to things that are like the opposite of what you want to feel. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. All right, so, um, before I, I bring on the next song, let me just preface it for a second. I'll tell a little story behind it. So, uh, so next song, uh,
It's actually the first song that really caught my attention when I saw this band live and it was my first concert I ever went to. Sneaking out of my house in high school, my friends brought me, like my older friends who had licenses and stuff like that, drove me out to the city and it was just the most eye-opening experience of my life. It's just one of those meaningful songs and I'm gonna play right now. No idea. No clue. I don't expect you to. This is like such a Howie song though.
It really epitomizes Howie. Like the guitar. This is what I imagine to be playing in Howie's head 24/7. Basically this sounds like the song that his band wanted to make. Like this is what I imagine when Howie's brushing his teeth in the morning. This is the song that's in his head. Alright, so the band is called The Wedding Present.
And the song is called "2-3-Go". Now, like I said, this is the first time I went out to a concert. And it was in New York City. It's a small venue. And I was like 15, 16 years old. You know, snuck in. You know, they were checking IDs. I snuck in somehow. And it was so exciting, right? And it was like a discovery. Now, being from Jersey, you might know, Justin, that living close to New York City,
It was like this forbidden area, right? Almost when you're young. And you go out there to be rebellious. You trek out there. Exactly. It's a Jersey thing. You trek out there for an adventure. Yeah. And so when you're 16 years old and you sneak out and you go to this concert, everyone's older. Everyone's in their 20s, 30s. And there I am pogoing with my friends, jumping up and down without a care in the world while this band who flew in from the UK never heard of them.
blew my mind away i bought their t-shirt and i still own this t-shirt to this day and i still wear it to this day as my sweet as my pajamas it says two three go on it and so that's why it's really like meaningful to me um because like i said this put me on that track to start to carve my own identity of music identity of being more open-minded of learning new music and
Not just listening to what's on the radio. Yeah, this really was that catalyst for me. Okay. Yeah. That's cool. So this is like your coming of age kind of song. Yeah, I would say. And by no means is this my favorite song by them. I don't... Yeah, and to be honest, I'm not really enjoying the song that much. No, it's cool, but it's like that indie vibe to it. It's indie, yeah. I mean, that was my whole thing. I was more into more indie music. Okay, so let me preface my next song.
by saying this might actually be one of my favorite songs. And it's very emotionally impactful for me because this was the song I was listening to on repeat during the trip where I left the US like permanently to move to China. Twinkle, twinkle little star. It's called Travelin' Man. Most def.
Haven't heard this since that time. Right?
Most Def is awesome. What happened to him? He got old, man. Is he acting? Who's doing acting for a bit? He's still around.
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I think something I've never like fully confronted before and like why this song is like so like emotionally impactful for me it's like like I left so many things and people when I left America and I left a cold turkey I don't see you leaving any other way though
Like that's so Justin. That's part... I feel like that's... Didn't even get to say goodbye. You know, I just picked up my bags and left. And why now like...
I don't know, now like 15 years later, I'm here. I don't know, I think on some level, it was... It felt too emotional to confront it, so it just felt easier just to leave. No going away party? No, no. I didn't even tell everybody. I had a long-term girlfriend at that point.
She didn't even know? We talked about it. She didn't really know? Like it wasn't like official? No, she knew. She knew. She knew. But it was always kind of under the pretense I was coming back. Damn, that's a whole can of worms. We could do a whole show on that one. So like this song was like kind of like my ode to like like all the people I left, you know, in that moment when I was leaving.
It's called Traveling Man, huh? That's cool. Interesting. Yeah, I mean, that's something like...
It's like, imagine like right now, like tomorrow I leave to a different country. Dude, you better not ever start another podcast. We'd fucking hunt you. We'd hunt your ass down. It's different now with technology, right? You can't just like pack up and bounce.
Like, you got to stick to your commitments. It's so funny. It's like I had like an opposite thing. Like, I had a going away party. I was setting up like a Facebook blog to let people know what I'm doing. You know what I mean? Really? Yeah. I was also doing a six-month thing. Like, everyone thought I was coming back for six months as well. But I didn't understand. Yeah, it's totally opposite. You're just like, peace, guys. See you when I see you. But like, you know.
When you first said that, I said that I can see that. It's very Justin, right? Did you hear when I said that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. How did that make you feel when I say that? Not good. I think this ties into a whole topic of regrets, right? You have certain regrets in your life. And I don't know, lately I've been playing back. I don't have a ton of regrets. But there are a few things, moments in my life, that I do regret I've done differently. Looking back...
And you realize like these connections and friendships matter, especially the ones like from your youth that if you can keep those and because those are lifelong friendships that go deep. And the most innocent and pure, you know. And if you listen to that song, Traveler Man, it's a beautiful song, right? It can be uplifting, but there is an undertone of sadness to that song as well. Like the song, the melody, even the words, there's a sadness there. And that kind of really encapsulated, I think, how I felt at that time.
- Yeah, it was a big moment in your life. And you're like, you're leaving behind, I mean, I think it's touching, but it's also, I think we can relate to that. 'Cause like one, you learn lessons from that. Like we're all, there's all people that we wish we would have stayed in touch with, right? I don't know a whole lot of people that I grew up with and I kind of just moved on. And so like, I think there's a lot of insecurity sometimes
There's probably this taking things for granted. There's just immaturity, right? Because you just like, I mean, it's like elementary school. When I went to one elementary school, I went to the junior high. Like I didn't, some people went to a different school and you never, like it was like literally your best friend. And then like after the summer,
you just go to a different school and then you never talk that you never knew what happened to that person. It's kind of a weird- - You have a new best friend. - Yeah, and so like, you can't, I try not to blame myself, but sometimes I'll go, I'll have some nostalgia and sadness 'cause I'll think like, wow, like you gotta let go of certain things in your life, right? And in this case, you were a little bit older. So I think there's a little bit of regret and guilt. Like, well, I could have done something differently.
And then you learn from that lesson. And then, you know, now the people that are around you don't do that. And I think everyone goes through that. Right. And I think the other piece though, is that if you don't let go of things, you can never experience new things. And the older you get, the harder it is to let go. Cause you have like real ties. Cause like, yeah, you can keep in touch, but when you move to the other side of the world,
what's the result of that you are kind of cutting ties in some way because your lifestyles just change yeah like out of sight out of mind totally like i mean you are making a decision and you're in your circle of friends everything is going to change like you're you know so in a way you're kind of like you're letting go of that part of your life yeah it's you know it sucks in a way because it's like you know these are friendships i wish i still had
But, you know, I don't really have. Yeah, you had to downgrade a little bit. Get some of those B players and C players. Yeah, now I got you guys and just not doing the job. Yeah, exactly. If you did a podcast with those guys, it would be like all positive songs. You know, like We Are The Champion, like Queen. Okay. We are family. Ooh, oldie but goodie. We are family.
So this is essentially the first song on my list. Such a great song. This song was written, I think, before all of us were born. Yeah, for sure. The 70s, isn't it? Yeah. Introduce it. More Than a Feeling, Boston. I went to school with this guy that was a year older than me. And he was kind of like... His name was Gene. And I really...
looked up to him like we were in high school. And so he listened to classic rock and I at that point like had no exposure to like this type of music. And then this friend of mine that I met, like, you know, he could drive, he could do all the stuff like we'd go out. And he introduced me to like classic rock. So like Led Zeppelin, like Santana, Doors, like all that stuff. Like he was the coolest guy.
And whatever, like, for whatever reason, Boston, this particular song is just like, it's iconic for me. Really, really, really love this song. You know, you know, it's interesting. So when I grew up, I remember like my peers, my immediate friends and I were very anti-classic rock.
where it got to the point where it was like because there's other groups of people that were into classic rock and we're like we don't hang with those kids right and we were more into like indie or punk or something like that you know how it is in high school it was clicky you know how it is right yeah and and so i never liked those kids who thought they were too cool for school yeah whatever
We've said this before. We probably wouldn't be friends. I know. We would have hated each other. Right? And so, yeah. So it was not until after when I got older, like, you know, past college where I started really getting into classic rock and really appreciating it because I had that stigma, you know, in high school. When you're finding your identity, you're in a little, your tribe, right? And so you want to stick to that tribe. And you had a little, you know, I had my secret hip hop love, you know what I mean? That kind of thing. But yeah, classic rock was a no-no.
The forbidden fruit. How funny is that? But, you know, because we were saying, it's old. It's old. You know what I mean? Well, it's also because the people you knew listening to that were probably not people you identified with. Yeah, exactly. So I wonder what the kids are like today, you know, because now there's even more genres for them to look back to, you know? So maybe to them now is grunge or things that we kind of grew up on, you know? To them is like the classic rock. They're like, ooh, that's old. Yeah.
And I don't know if I'm biased, but when I listen to... I mean, there's so many different genres, right? I listened to music that was written 500 years ago, too. But classic rock, to me, is just some of the most... It's just the best music. It's just so good. Like Stairway to Heaven, like some of the... Like the Led Zeppelin stuff, right? It's like the artistry, like just...
the musicality back then it's like on a whole nother level and it's I think they're they'll be around for a long time like when I play some of the stuff for Anne she's heard of some of it from her time in the US but there are songs that are classics that we know as classics that she's never heard but when she listens to it she instantly is like oh wow this song is awesome
So there's something about that song that even sits outside of the historical context, which is like, holy shit, that's just a well-written song. And I think you have more of those during the classic rock era than ever. Like there was something about that time where people, it was less commercial too. Yeah, that brings up an interesting topic. I don't know if it's just a product of me being older because there's always that cliche of
of the older generation being like, that's not real music in my day. That was real music, right? Right. It's hard to say like all these things because of the influences, but like I will defend classic rock in the sense that like by the time I listened to it, it had been like
you know, decades. You know what I'm saying? It's not like I grew up listening to Led Zeppelin, right? I mean, like, Led Zeppelin wasn't producing music when I was listening to it. I was listening to stuff, like The Beatles, for instance. Yeah. And so there's something, there is, like, where do you draw the line between things being universal, where it's like, okay, no one's ever going to do something like Stairway to Heaven, like, ever again, versus, like, oh, we're just old and, like, we don't, you know, it was better back then. Nostalgia. So this song...
It's actually one of my favorite songs of all time. And it's actually the first song I wrote down. And I was going to piggyback on what you were saying, Justin, with your child. The moment you had with your child with Edward James. I had a similar one with this song. Because... Baby Shark. Yeah.
It's called Baby Shark. No, I'm kidding. So, yeah, it was a moment where I was... I'm always trying to entertain my kids, right? In some way or another. And you've seen me kind of like act the fool in front of them sometimes. Yeah, I feel bad for them. Yeah. And so one time...
I was just, you know, we're playing baby songs. We play baby songs all day. But one time I took over the playlist and I started playing some old songs, like my own kind of playlist. And I put on this song and then I got so excited about it because I haven't listened to the song in a while. I got really excited about it. I got up, I started dancing and singing and I saw the joy in my kids' eyes and I started crying. And it was one of those things that I got moved, not because of my kids crying, but also because...
I for some reason honed in on this idea of are my kids gonna get bond with music like I have So let me play this song and then we can continue talking about it Of course I've been going down a rabbit hole with The Cure They've uh, they just got inducted into the rock and roll hall of fame They're still touring He still sounds great! So amazing Still sounds great I mean this is one of the greatest bands of all time Robert Smith, right? One of the greatest bands of all time called The Cure
This song is called Just Like Heaven. One of my favorite songs by them. Show me, show me, show me how you do that. Woman makes me scream, she says. This girl loves to throw her arms around. Show me how you do all this and all this.
So you won't believe this, but I'm also a Cure fan. Not like hardcore hardcore, but like they're pretty dope. They're dope. I listen to them all the time. God, this evokes like anyone could listen to it and then just like evoke something emotional.
And there's a certain nostalgia but optimism to it too, right? It's a sad song, but it also somewhat feels optimistic. That's the thing about The Cure. It's like they're fucking sad, right? Like you listen to the words, they're sad. But for some of the poppy music, it just gets you going. Well, that's what defines, I think, The Cure's style. Robert Smith's style is like he's able to combine two things that don't go together and make it really good. Like he was able to combine like pop and indie music.
as long along with like upbeat and sad yeah and a lot of their songs like it's that kind of fusion gives them their style yeah like Friday I'm in love you know like that's such a like a I listen to that all the time on repeat on Fridays every day it has to be Fridays right otherwise the song just doesn't make sense um
Yeah, so this song, like I said, when I put this on, why did I cry? Because I thought in the moment that
When I really got into the song, it was also when I was most passionate about music was when I was young. It was my teenage years, college years and post-college. And at that time, this also reflects society at the time where music, you bought albums, you make mixtapes, you know, you burn CDs, you get really into music. But I feel like these days,
I feel like it's sort of like fleeting, right? You have like a song comes out, you listen to it. Oh, that's a hot jam. That's a really good song. Yeah. And then it kind of dies and you kind of move on. Yeah. And it's all about like fire songs now, as opposed to these emotional mountain moving songs. Well, sometimes now, nowadays it's almost more about the music videos and the songs themselves sometimes. Yeah. I don't know. I just, I'm just, it saddens me to think that if,
My kids get to the age where they start really appreciating music and if I do not do my job in instilling that passion or appreciation for music, then I would feel like I failed. Like, music is such an important thing that I think is just one of those... If you can appreciate music, it can emotionally help you grow. Therapy. It's therapeutic. It's growth. And I'm not going to speak for a young generation today, but...
I'm sure they have it. They have their own bands and music as well. But I don't know. I just feel like... I guess maybe the way of ingestion or the way of intake is just different now. Yeah. I mean, this is an idea I'm sure you can relate to, Howie, is like music is the best therapist I've ever known. And we talk to a lot of therapists on this show, right? And they're all great. And it's great conversations. But like, I mean, like music has been the best therapy I've ever known personally. You just made me...
that I have such an opportunity to be more present and just appreciate music a lot more. Because, yeah, it can help you grow. I think it's become so transactional, honestly. You know, like, you choose a playlist for whatever thing you need to do. So I'm like, I need to focus. I need to do this. And I'm, like, mindlessly listening to... If you listen to my soundtracks now, a lot of them don't even have words. They're just, like...
It's like the name of the playlist. Like, okay, you know, deep flow and work or whatever, right? Like, I'm listening to some mindfulness music or whatever just so that I don't want to listen to it, you know? And like, how often do we just sit down and listen to music? Like, everything that's happening on social media is actually going against this notion of just like... You've heard of like slow food, right? No, what's slow food? Slow food is like... Farm table kind of stuff? Or... Like...
I think it just can like I don't have the exact definition But I think it's kind of like, you know, you see the ingredients you prepared you enjoy it all this stuff It's like the opposite of fast food. Yeah enough transactional stuff like going to restaurants. It's like almost like slow music and
Music now is just appropriated in so many ways, like in a commercial, to evoke a certain thing, like marketing. Everything has sonic elements to it. But do we just sit down and listen to the lyrics and think about the lyrics and reflect on the lyrics and all this stuff? We don't. There should be this idea of slow music.
What you said, I felt like hit the nail on its head. It's like music, at least for us, music today is in the background. But when music actually mattered to us more, it was in the foreground. Like you actually sat down and listened to the song and felt it. Listened to the lyrics and felt it. Like I said, when I laid down my blue light,
What did I do? I listened to every freaking word sang, right? And let it go into my body. You immersed yourself in it. I immersed my body. So for the listeners out there, especially the younger ones, please let us know. Do you guys do this? Do you guys actually have songs that really affect you in that way that you sit down and just carve out time to really, really, really immerse yourself into it? Yeah, like be present in the song, right? Yeah. Instead of just having it like being in the background while you're doing some task. And...
we don't do that enough yeah it's let me ask that applies to a lot of things not just music right yeah like that that idea this this idea of like slow food slow music slow art slow living whatever it is slow podcast it's like when you really really really go deep and experience it at almost a spiritual level we just that's not how we live our lives anymore and it's a shame yeah
Good stuff. Okay. Talking about slow music then. Are you going to slow it down? I'm going to slow it way down. I'm going to slow it down. This is going to be a left turn. I'm going into my... I'll just play it. Is this your sex music? Is this your love making music? It's love music, but it's not love making music. Okay. Boom, boom, boom, boom. Boom, boom, boom, boom. Boom, boom, boom, boom.
Sitting here waiting on you
This song is called Charlene by Anthony Hamilton. I just suddenly see panties on the ground everywhere. For Justin, it's not a lovemaking song, so I don't know what it is. It's scary.
No, because if you listen to the words, it's about him missing a girl that's not in his life anymore. And all these things that he wanted to tell her. And if you listen to the lyrics... And you said this is for another girl. Who is this for?
It's all about him. It was all about his emotional neglect of his girl. Him choosing another path or choosing focus as opposed to putting his focus on her. Yes. Yeah. Exactly. And that focus was music for him. I don't blame him. That's the story of Justin as well. I know. There's so much regret. I know. Just tinged with...
Like abandonment, emotional neglect. But Riley has finally kindled this fire in him. Yeah. Totally. But this was in my university days. In LA. I used to be cruising down the LA streets at night. In my car, windows rolled down. Whistling at girls? Yeah, whistling at girls. Picking up. Hey, yo!
Hey, what's your name? What's your number? Lovely. Yeah, you like soul music. I like the instrumental, like the kind of the minimalist synth in the beginning. I really like that. I love that we're all bringing very different music on this. This is good.
Okay. You guys want upbeat or do you want mellow? I don't care. Whatever you want. Be the DJ. I can go either way. Feel the crowd out. Feel the crowd out.
I got this feeling inside my bones. It goes electric wavy when I turn it on. Off of my city, off of my home. We're flying up no ceiling when we in our zone. I got that sunshine in my pocket. Got that good soul in my blood, in my body. When it drops, take my eyes off of it. Moving so phenomenally.
Justin Timberlake? What was this song? I don't know this song. Can't Stop the Feeling? Oh, this song. Of course, like this "Shunshine in My Pocket." That's what I'm talking about. Like you're all about positivity, like positive songs.
I've definitely seen that trend. Justin's ripping his heart out every song. Every one of Eric's songs is positivity. Sunshine in my pocket. Every song has sun in it. And a sun. Sunshine in the pocket. El sun in Spanish. We're going to get some really dark shit in a moment. All right. When I hear this song, I think of...
About 2016, 17 era. And I was living in Beijing. And then I got a transfer and I moved back to Shanghai. Super happy about that. And then the guy that I work for, who I'm still really close with, I changed teams and I worked for this guy named Johnny. And he was from Texas as well. And just the coolest guy. Like a big brother to me.
And he's in Bangkok now. He was in Japan for a while. And we just built kind of incredible friendship for his farewell. So he moved from Shanghai to Japan in 2017.
And we made him this like, I mean, he was so popular, like where we work. And so we sent out a note to people. It's like, hey, he's moving to Japan, send him some, you know, like a little video. And so like dozens and dozens of people sent like their well wishes. And this was the soundtrack to it. And so when I hear this song, I just like evokes all those memories.
Is anybody going to bring in a modern song? Or is it all old school? What do you mean, like modern within the last few years? Yeah. Because I'm looking at my list and my shit's old. But that's what we were talking about. Are we just creatures? Are we just prisoners of our era? This is the newest one I feel like I saw on my list. I think part of it is that we're thinking about our life.
And so these moments where in five years, I'll point to a song that's from now. So I don't think it's the era of the song. It's just that we haven't formed those memories yet. That's true. That's very true. And we're just old. Yeah. So all our memories are from 1500s. Yeah. I'm going to try to break that trend right now. I mean, this song is not that old. I mean, I'm going to pick a song. I don't think you guys know this because they're not well known at all.
But they're from Australia. And I was exposed to them recently in the past four years, I would say. Four or five years. And yeah, it's like one of the few bands that when I first heard them, I was like, what the hell is this? It's so good. And it's really chill. But I just let it play for a little bit. I just really like the singer. I love the beats. This is my time of music. Dang, this is good. This is the bottom line.
That's pretty dope. Kind of sounds like Howie. No, I've heard singers like this before, and I like this style. It's like Radiohead meets Sam Smith. I don't know if there's any Radiohead in it. I just think he's captivating.
I love this kind of music too, very moody. Yeah, so I got introduced to this band called No Mono. I think it's a duo. And the song is called Violence Broken. They're an Australian group. Not very well known. I looked them up and barely have fans. My friend Reggie, who you've met before, really understanding of music.
He introduced them to me. He just played them. He's like, yo, let's check this out. It's a pretty cool song. In passing. And then I listened to it. I'm like, who the fuck is this guy? This is awesome. And then, yeah, from then, I downloaded the rest of their music. This is my favorite song from them. But it's all moody. It's all like, it's interesting. But this is the song. Like, this is the song. No, this is great. I don't know what I was thinking. What happened, no. At the waterline.
But yeah, it's one of those things like, we listen to songs and you'll be like, yeah, it's a good song. But this song, when it first came up, it made me stop and be like, okay, I got to download this. You know, that's why I brought this up. There's no story behind it, really. It's just like I said, bring up my friend, bring up music, and it's just a good song I really liked.
It's a good song. It's a good song to play while we just talk. It's a bad guy. Chill out. Yeah. You know, so far, every song that you've played, I've liked. And they generally fit into some of the genres that I listen to, although I don't focus solely on that particular genre. So it's interesting because I think a lot of times people have very, very different musical tastes. But while I'm
I've been exposed superficially to like the music that you guys listen to, but I've never gone deeper into it. But it's funny how like they're pretty much, there's a lot of intersection. Yeah. You can also tell a lot about a person, right? By the music that they listen to. Yeah, for sure. I'm alive, I'm alive. Help me. I'm alive, I'm alive. Help me.
This is getting me in the mood where I just like I wasn't gonna pick this song. Do it. So this artist we've already played on this show before last episode. Ben? No, it's one of your favorite bands. 收音機頭? 對 I have no idea if that's what they call in Chinese. This song was the soundtrack
to one of the finale episodes of Westworld. Oh. One of their earlier seasons. And it's amongst a handful of film and TV moments that just wrecked me emotionally. To the point you actually looked up the song. Yes. Wow. And for days after that, I didn't know what to do with myself. So it must have matched the visuals really well. That's powerful. Slide up, jump off the edge.
yeah I can imagine this is very cinematic right the song it can evoke a lot of visuals a certain mood and feeling emotionally right so you put that all together I'm sure if done right if done right yeah it's probably gonna kill you yeah it killed me
But for me, I just sink into this song. Sometimes, like I used to when I was commuting in Shanghai, walking around, taking subways, I'd just play this and it's just like... And then you juxtapose that against the pace of the city. It's like this crazy, weird energy because this is so down-paced and moody. And then visually, you just see all these people running around a modern city, people coming and going. ♪
Radiohead does that to you. Yeah. Yeah. Johnny Greenwood, the guitarist and songwriter, I mean, he does film compositions. Mm-hmm. So... Okay. Eric, what you got? What you got? Are you gonna stay on the moody side or are you gonna take it up again with a little Justin Bieber? Despacito. Despacito. Despacito. I'm gonna fucking kill you guys with happiness. He's gonna come up like, I like big butts and I cannot lie.
You think it'd come with party rock anthem? It just like smashed the mood. Is it instrumental? Nice. Is it pianist or is it? Yeah. So one fun fact is that this pianist, Brad Meldow, has done some covers of Radiohead. Oh, yes. It's so good. So good. Yeah. I have that.
About 20 years ago, maybe a little bit before, I came across this guy. And he was like up and coming at the time. And he's my favorite jazz pianist of all time. Like, I mean, I listen to a lot of different types of jazz piano. But he's considered probably like the foremost jazz pianist of his generation. What's his name again? Brad Meldow.
He did OK Computer, right? Yes, that's the guy. And he studied classical. He has all these classical influences. And I came across him at one point. I was living in California for a little bit. And I just came across this guy. And my biggest regret was that I had a chance to see him live one time. And then I was debating. And then I just talked myself out of it. Why? You just didn't feel like going? No, I didn't know a whole lot of people at the time. And I didn't want to go by myself. I wish I would have gone. This...
Peace starts off like this, Super Bowl. I've listened to this probably hundreds of times, but it accelerates towards the end and it gets like really, really emotional and dynamic. But it could be like one of my
favorite pieces of all time. It's amazing. It's nice. It's amazing. I'm going to download him. I'm going to listen to him. I don't know if you know, but most of the music I listen to these days have no singing. It's all instrumental. And I'm going to play one next. Yeah. And this one's a solo, right? He plays in a trio. But I have a dozen of his albums. But this particular song, I could...
I literally could have this be the soundtrack for my life. Just have it playing. That's the beauty. That's why I love a lot about instrumentals these days. Because music has become more background for my life now, as opposed to back in the day, it was more foreground. I just need that music to directly speak to me now, as opposed to trying to pay attention to the lyrics. And so, yeah, I'm with you. Musically, I'm much more into compositional music now.
film soundtracks composers the next one i want to bring in is a composer i like um but uh let me start i guess i'll start with this song this was used on a film and tv shows as well as his own house beautiful i've heard this one before yeah it's a good entry song max richter this is very familiar max richter yes i have max richter yes so the song's called on the nature of daylight and um it's one of his more well-known i would say compositions
It was on Shutter Island. It was a TV show as well. I can't remember which one it was called, but let's listen to it a little bit and then I can talk. He did The Leftovers. The Leftovers, you know, the TV series. My Brilliant Friend. So as I was saying, I like to listen to soundtracks more now and I get just as moved as I used to when listening to songs with lyrics and vocals now.
I don't know if it's because I'm more tuned into that filmmaking side and interest that I have or if it's some other reason. But yeah, I'm all about compositions now and the way they make you feel. Like when that violin comes in, it's just that... I'm not going to talk. Just listen. Which film was this part of again? I believe Shutter Island. Shutter Island, yeah. Sounds so familiar. But he did Ad Astra as well. And he did...
What else did he do? The Leftovers, Invasion, Black Mirror. But a lot of filmmakers like him, you know, as a modern composer. It's amazing. Love it. I actually wanted to play his other song called November, which is my favorite one from him, but it's just such a long song. It takes a long time to get into it. I didn't choose it, but if you listeners out there like Max Richter, check out November. I love that one. Um...
but it makes you think like you know like you play this type of music i feel like it really gets you into a mood to talk right and really talk some you know to to kind of bring up some things that may be bothering you or or just things you want to get off your chest a little bit what allows you to live like the movie of your own life you know because it is so cinematic yeah well and it slows you down like this is kind of like the antidote to
Like all the crap that we get on whatever, TikTok or whatever those Twitter, right? Like this soundtrack is thoughtful. There's gravity to it. There is seriousness. There's emotional impact. So it's almost like it puts you into a mood of like reflection. So beautiful. You like it? Yeah, I love it. Like for me, like you said, that makes you want to talk. It has the opposite effect of me. It makes me just want to sit in it.
Just be. Alright, so my next song, I have to apologize a little bit ahead of time in terms of just kind of taking us deeper down this path. It's a song I'm sure you all know. I'm sure a lot of people know. It was very popular. It was a cover song. Can I guess? Yeah. What if I guess right? Is it going to ruin you? No. Hurt. Bam! Bam! Bam!
Did you see my list? No. No. I just felt it. It just popped in my mind. So this Johnny Cash cover of what is a Nine Inch Nails song, right? Yeah. Is Johnny Cash... Did he pass away already? Yeah, he's dead. Yes. So this is like before... One of the last songs he did. Yeah, this is like one of the last songs he did before he passed away as an old man. And he chose this cover. Yeah. And the way he does it, it's just heart-wrenching. Yeah. And the lyrics. And the video is just amazing. Oh my God. All right, here we go.
Did you notice that confidence in my voice when I said what if I guess it? Yes, you're like, "You knew." He passed away 20 years ago. No, 2003. Yeah, yeah. Some of these things came out after he died. I would put this on repeat.
The song? Yeah, and I have it on repeat. I listened to it like 20 times in a row. It's such a gut-wrenching song because it's filled with regret. But I remember everything. This part. Oh, God, it's so good. What have I become? Have you really listened to the lyrics? My sweetest friend. Everyone I know goes away.
So he recorded this right before he died. Yeah. I wear this crown of thorns upon my liar's chair full of broken thoughts.
It's like he barely has enough energy. When I first heard this one and I knew when it was sung, I was like, this is it. This is like the last breath that he...
Yeah.
Trent Reznor originally wrote the song of Nine Inch Nails. And when this first song came out, it was amazing. Everyone loved it. But the fact that Johnny Cash sang this, like we've been saying, in the context of him singing this song, brings this song to a whole other level. If I could start again A million miles away Myself, I would find
For me, this song has always been, the way I saw it was always like, he's singing it to himself. Like he's talking to himself. He probably agreed to do it just because how much he resonated with it, probably. Yeah. But God, does that song kill you. I remember when that video first came out, it's like, he was so fragile, right? Yeah. An old man. Yeah, you really brought it to the ultimate. I mean, how do you top that? The lows of lows. Like mood.
Jesus. Yeah. All right, Eric. Swing the pendulum the other way, Eric. Come on. Bring another song with sun in it. I'm finding out a song because I didn't prepare that many. Let's just do one more song each. One more. All right. I'm going to just... I'll do one. You ready? Mm-hmm. I'm seeing 80s films. I'm seeing Kevin Bacon. Yeah.
I'm seeing Kevin Bacon in a montage. This is a montage. Definite montage. Journey. Steve Perry. Separate ways. His voice is ridiculous. Yeah. This is a bit of a throwback. I like Journey a lot. There are a number of songs that I like. This might not be my favorite one, but it's just so powerful.
Not many people can sing... has the pipes of him. Yeah, except for Arnado whatever Pineda. The Filipino guy that replaced him. Like that guy's amazing! Right! Yeah, I saw that. Actually, I want to find that. I want to find the Pineda version of it. Yeah, this is a classic. Oh, one more.
Alright, Justin, help me pick. Do you want me to pick a song that has a story to it? The song itself is so-so. Just a slight story. Or just good music. Or introduce some classic shit. Was it a good story though? Maybe to me, but it's not that good. What do you mean by classic shit?
Like, for example, like the first time I was introduced to a certain genre of music that just blew my mind. Yeah. But it's, you know, all right, I'll do that. First time he was introduced to indie rock. All right. So this genre of music was probably the most, one of the most instrumental in honing my music taste. Yeah.
I'd rather hear your other story. I don't care about the first time. When you used honing, he just tuned out after you said honing. I'll pick a song. This has a story. It's not that great of a story, but it's a story. So this next song is sort of like my version of Traveling Man. Okay. So this is the song that was on repeat before I moved to China. And I saw the band live. It was the last show I saw before moving to China.
And I think that's probably the connection I had with it. And I had just bought a car and I blast this car driving the streets of Queens loudly. It was the first car I was able to buy cash, full payment. Bam. You know, I was very proud. I was doing very well for myself. But also that was the time when I decided to just for some reason, well, I know the reason to just pick up and go.
And I just bought a car, like not even a year. I sold it. You know, I just moved in with an apartment, got rid of it. Everything, just got rid of everything and moved to China. But the song was on repeat during that process. So I have an emotional connection to it and I'll play it right now. Sounds like that wedding present band. There's certain types of music I like, okay? It's like that really simple guitar. I love simple guitar. Waiting for the smoke.
Soundtrack to me moving. Been waiting for this moment all my life. But it's just not right. The hesitancy of moving. So this band is called Silver Sun Pickups. And the song is called Lazy Eye. So Eric, to you, the music I play, it's very similar, isn't it? Not all of it, but this particular one, this vibe, versus the wedding present. Because it's a very different band, right? So it's interesting that you're putting that connection. I never thought about that.
wedding presents from it's a brit pop band you know no they're different definitely different like this one's more immersive but like it was that initial guitar that very monotone i can see that yes this guitar playing is very similar now that you're saying that but the vocals is all very different right but they're opening so anyway so this song i mean i haven't listened to it since i moved but
During that time, like I said, it was on repeat. I quite like it, though. It's a very simple song. It's nice. Oh, man. I have no idea. This is it. Make it good. This is the last song. I know. So much pressure. You guys are not going to like my last picks. Hip-hop. Let's do hip-hop. You got good taste in hip-hop, I think. Want to go hip-hop? Yeah. I like that. Nobody's played any heavy music.
What do you mean? All we've been playing is heavy music. Like heavy metal or like... Were you into heavy metal? I was not. I mean, I have some punk songs on here. I was about to bring out some no effects. Okay, so here's a hip hop one. This one is one of the songs that defined my time at University of Southern California.
Just some special moments with a special friend who's not around anymore. Rest in peace. We used to just blast this in the afternoons. Sitting with the windows open. Nice California breeze.
Wow, I haven't heard this in so long. Jesus.
Interesting that you're listening to this in the West Coast. I'm an East Coast boy, you know. Yeah. It's all East Coast. Yeah.
Hold locked, delusion still singing. Fool, I'm Tharo in every barrow. My name be ringing, warming it up for the perfect time to hit your brain and you're feeling it. To all the girls, I bought a girl who took and sealed my bricks. No doubt they could vouch, my life is real as shit. 95 South and Papi on the hill and shit. And all the towns like Cambridge that I kill with shit. And all the thorough ass niggas that I hustle with. Throw your joints in the air one time and bust your shit. These fake rappers can't really know I'm loving it.
Even though this is like the 2000s, right? This music? I think so. Right? It's either late 90s, 2000s, right? 96. 96? Yeah. Jesus. Yeah.
This is right after the cusp of Boom Bap, right? So it still has that feeling to it. I was going to play one. I'll just say it since we probably don't have time. You can play it if it's that good. I like it. I like it.
I mean, we got our own rules here. It's not like... I don't know if this... Not many people know this band because they're like a one-hit wonder. But when this came out, it was like... I was mind-blown.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This was big. Come on. I thought this was so good. It just felt so good to listen to this song. This is a good song to edit on right here. Damn.
Souls of Mischief, 93 till infinity. Remember how we were riffing off of Far Side last time? To me, it's the genre. Yeah, this falls into the Far Side family.
How do you feel about this, Eric? I like it. This era of hip-hop. I like it. Justin and I, we just swim in this era. We don't leave this era. It's got a good beat. It's got a good... Very vibey. Yeah.
Like positive. Yeah. We're talking about positive with Eric. Positive. Right? You don't have the negative feeling towards hip-hop. Right? Like the negative lyrics, the negative... I never really got into gangster stuff that much, though some songs are really good. But 90s hip-hop was overall pretty positive. Right? Well, until West Coast really started taking over. Oh, yeah. Tupac and Biggie.
I think you had all genres. We had gangster rap, right? Gangster rap was in that era as well. That was very negative, but the songs were jams. Some of the gangster rap songs were fucking great. Right.
But this whole genre of boom bap with like Tribe, Farside, you know, like these groups that have a lot of positive messages, just having a good time, spreading good vibes, right? That's why people like this. 93, that's when? 30 years ago. 93.
30 years ago man and now we're here. This song came out 30 years ago. What the fuck? Picking songs like this is also kind of like looking back in your journal diary, right?
Because it's just going back in time and reconnecting you to like your life. Us sitting here, sharing our stories and talking, it's a nice way to be present, but at the same time,
be on a time machine and really think about experiences that we have. Yeah, I think these, you know, looking back on your life has a powerful effect in that it helps you, if you're intentional about it, reframe your current life. I mean, I learned a little bit about you guys, which is nice, and I maybe learned a little bit about myself, but I'm also curious, like, for our listeners to tell us
What are those songs that mean something to you? All right. Well, that's it for today, guys. Life's Mixtape Volume 2. I'm Justin. I'm Howie. And I am regret-free. All right. Be well. Be good. Peace.
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