Brainwaves & Breakthroughs: Dr. Patrick Porter On The Future Of Mental Fitness
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Hello, this is Richard Jacobs with the Finding Genius podcast. My guest today is Patrick Capewater. He's a neuroscience expert. He's the inventor of BrainTap, a trademark term which we'll get into, and a brain fitness pioneer. He's been doing this for, it looks like, 30 years. He's helped well over 120,000 people and thousands of clinics worldwide.

I work with what's called neuroplasticity and brainwave science visualization, all to reduce stress and improve sleep and enhance mental clarity. He's been featured in the Wall Street Journal, CNN, Joe Rogan, and he has the backing of 30 clinical studies. So he's got a book coming out as well called Brain Fitness Blueprint. So I think this would be a great call. So welcome. Thanks for coming, Patrick. Hey, thanks for having me. Yeah. Well, tell me a bit about your background and why you decided to, you know, learn brain science and make that a big focus of yours. Well, it all started, my dad was a

chronic alcoholic and the church members came over and said hey we're going to teach you how to de-stress and they taught him something called the Silva method and then he became one of the Silva method instructors in Michigan so I grew up going up going to seminars teaching people how to de-stress using something called the Silva sound and their meditation practice so when I went to school I went to school for electronics and I'm always somebody who likes to invent things and create so I thought wow if we can do it with sound I wonder if we can do it light so I was the

With a group of six people, we invented the very first portable light and sound machine to help people to get out of stress and really to get out of pain. That's how we started. But it's evolved since then, since 1986. Huh. Okay. So I've heard of the Silva Method. Can you just... I know that's not what you're...

you're doing, but what, what does the Silva method do and how did it work just for a brief sketch of it? Yeah. The Silva method would help people. They call it going to level. So back then we didn't have neurofeedback, you know? So a lot of people say, did you go to school for neurophysiology or neuropsychology? And I said, no,

There was no neural anything back then. We had biofeedback. So what we would use is we would use a GSR machine called galvanic skin response system. And you can measure brainwave activity through the resistance you have for blood flow in your finger. And so with this technique, you could teach people to go to a

They called it level because alpha is 10 hertz frequency. So think in terms if you and I were sitting near the ocean, we'd start to relax naturally. We do that because every cell of your body has something called mirror neurons. And those mirror neurons are always listening to the environment. And back in 2003, when they said, hey, we mapped the human genome, they really didn't. They mapped 1% of the human genome and they said 99% was junk. Well, in 2018, they finally have

to technology that can measure what's happening to that 99%. We now call that epigenetics. So every 40 seconds, every cell of your body is actually monitoring your environment internally and externally, what you say to yourself,

what's going on around you, what you eat, everything plays into it. If you have a propensity to be a negative person or a positive person, these all play into how your genetics show up. So when they present this sound, which we would now call an isochronic tone, which means it's a mono sound, it can be played in the room, and everybody listening to that sound would sync to that

frequency. So it's like going to the symphony and you look around and people paid, you know, $200 to listen to symphony and half of them are sleeping. That's because that symphony is playing at 10 hertz frequency and they don't know how to regulate their brain at alpha. So their brain thinks they're supposed to be going to sleep. But what you do at Sylva is you'd learn to have what we call an awakened mind. And once you have that awakened mind, you can accomplish your goals fast. So for me, I used it for sports. I became a pre-sport captain and an auto roll student. And I was up

failing second grader. I got held back in second grade and was told I wasn't very smart, didn't learn much, but...

Yeah.

Especially if you're like a student or you have high stress because you're in something called the sympathetic state. And most people have what we call neurological lock. And every cell has to respirate. So think of a cell like a lung. It's always breathing, but what it's breathing is light. Every cell is absorbing light energy into the mitochondria and then respirating that light out as codes to the body, telling the body what to do. And our body interacts with the sun. That's what we call the circadian rhythm.

That's why every day at two o'clock, your temperature drops two degrees. Most people don't know that. They think they need coffee, tea, or chocolate. No, your body says, I need to recharge. But we don't recharge with food. We recharge with oxygen and light energy. And so with Silva, they would teach you to do this breathing technique. Relax. Of course, your eyes are closed. One of the listeners can practice is a really simple technique. When you sit in a chair with your feet flat on the floor, shoulders rolled back, roll your eyes up as if you're in the middle of a clock.

What you roll your eyes up to is if you're looking at 10 o'clock, that 10 o'clock actually triggered your physiology to go into an alpha state because it's something we do every night when we go to sleep. We don't realize we roll our eyes back, but it's a trigger. And that trigger becomes, we would call an anchor or a trigger in it.

And if you can maintain that state, your body will start to resonate. You'll have a vibration. Your body might feel light or heavy or tingling. And we would do it over a weekend. So imagine 40 people in a room and they're all doing this with this music playing in the background. People could get into some pretty deep states, but they wouldn't fall asleep. If they fell asleep, that was fine because at first maybe they needed to get rid of some of that stress. But

We want them to stay awake while they're in a sleeping state. So I always tell people, your mind's awake, but your body's asleep. That's the Silva method. And then when you're there, you can impress upon your subconscious what you want. Because most people are out there trying to control 5% of their life. I mean, 5% of what they can control. That's their conscious mind. And they spend all their time doing it when the changes need to happen in the subconscious.

Quick question from what you said just a minute ago. So you talked about 2 p.m., you know, being a temperature trough people. What if, you know, like they say cortisol will increase before you wake up and blah, blah, blah. What happens if you have two people? One's a lark. They get up 6 a.m., let's say go to bed at 10 a.m.

The other one's a real night owl. They go up at 1 a.m. and get up at like 9. Will the time of day affect them differently because they've been awake for a different time? No, it doesn't matter. The sun is beaming codes to us as well. At 2 o'clock every night at 2 a.m., your temperature increases two degrees. That's why people, if your nervous system isn't regulated...

You'll wake up with sweat or you'll wake up around two o'clock and have to go to the bathroom. You won't have to try to go to sleep at two. It'd be harder to go to sleep. No. Well, you want to be in sync with the sun. So there is no such thing as a lark. Back in, you know, what we have is we have people that they think that they are because they've trained their brain to do that. And in Silva, they had a thing called sleep and wake troll. So you can train your brain to get back in sync. If you're out of sync with the circadian rhythm, like there's all the studies that show that

people that work or stay up too late at night, you don't get as much melatonin made. You make more melatonin between 10 and 12 than you do the rest of the night. So if you don't get to by 10 o'clock, but you get to after

But after 12, your body is fighting against the system. So if you want to work with the system, think in terms of everything is resonating or in harmony or disharmony with everything else. So if we want our brain to work at its peak, we want to be in sync with the circadian rhythm. In ancient days, when we were by the fire, for instance, I'll give you an example. After we're hunting and gathering or whatever we're doing, we get to the fire. We're stressed out. We don't even know if we're going to live tomorrow. So we're burning a fire. Well, we don't binge watch the fire. Once that fire is burned out, we go to bed. In ancient times,

But what that fire is doing for us, it's actually emitting infrared light. And every fire flickers at 10 hertz frequency. So again, it's taking us into that alpha state, putting us into a sleep state. What's happened in our environment, because we have technology, we are being exposed to light. It's not just blue light. There's

There's a lot of negative things about blue light, but if we didn't have blue light, we'd have a lot of depressed people out there in the world. We need blue light. We just don't need the negative blue light we get from screens. So what we have to do is we have to look and see how are we out of phase with our natural environment? Because we would get up at sunrise and at sunrise, you should have the most cortisol possible.

And then that cortisol trough will drop about two o'clock if you're in sync. Now, if you also said norepinephrine, dopamine, you know, these are things we call it digital coffee because we can trigger that with a brainwave called SMR, sensory motor rhythm. And by stimulating that brainwave, we get the brain back in sync with the natural circadian rhythm of you. Everyone should be in sync with their environment.

But, you know, we travel more. I mean, back in the ancient days, if we went five miles, that'd be a big distance. Now we can get on an airplane and fly across the country, you know, so in that same amount of time. So there's a big disparity. Our brain and our body are not in sync with our natural environment. And that's what's causing a lot of the stress and anxiety in our brain function. Okay. So Silva, so you developed a method with light instead of sound. So what is your method called?

call, etc. We call it brain tap because we're tapping into the brain's potential. We use light, sound, and vibration. We use three different frequencies. We use right frequency, so PGO frequencies and no J frequency. And our

Our lights are not just 650 nanometer light or 470 nanometer light. They actually pulse to the frequency because the cells are actually interpreting. And I'll give you an example. People who are EMF sensitive, they're not sensitive really because of the radiation that's being broadcast by that tower. They're sensitive because it's being pulsed at 50 million pulses per second. In our bodies, our cells are going, what am I supposed to do with that information? And they're not grounded.

which means they're not touching the earth. You know, it used to be we, before the 1950s, we had leather shoes. We didn't have all this problem and our body collects energy. So next time you go to Lowe's or Home Depot, go to the bolt-on meter and measure, just take the red and the black lead, turn it on bolt-on, and you'll see you have about two to three bolts of energy moving through your body. If you could take that in bolt-on meter outside, take your shoes off, you'd be at zero. We, our body should be at zero point because that

That information, it's like driving through Texas and you have two different radio stations playing at the same time. Your cells aren't getting the right information. So we need to ground ourselves. If you were with me here, if we're at my workstation, I have a grounding pad. So it's like I'm working outside all day.

Because I'm being exposed to radiation by my computers, by the lights, by the environment. And I need to make it, my body won't hold onto that negative charge as long as I can ground it into the earth. But we have all this technology and nobody's looking at its consequences and nervous system function. And because 70% of your nervous system is between your ears, we need to look at that

is number one as far as brain function goes. And of course, sitting, you know, our physiology is designed to move and breathe. So if we're not moving and breathing, our brain starts to shut down. And it's always fighting against itself. But when we measure, I've measured about 30,000 brains in the last 10 years with a new piece of equipment that I invented called NeuroCheck. And I would say that 90% of the people we measure are over 60% of their brain is in Delta while they're awake. That's a sleep. What does that mean? That means high inflammation in the body and they're

They're burned out. They're about to burn out. They're stressed out. Of course, I'm seeing people that that's what they're coming in for. You know, they're, we're stressed out, burned out. And once we regulate their brain back to having about 45% beta and 30% alpha, they have like, they feel like they got infinite energy because that's how we think

Think of your beta brainwave as your reactionary brain. We need that to function, to drive a car, to make decisions. But we need our alkyl brain to give us solutions like language and to problem solve and have our memory. So these two work together and all brainwaves are happening at the same time.

But it's the balance of those brainwaves. We actually call it a symphony of brainwaves. So we train a symphony of brainwaves. We don't just train one brainwave. Like on YouTube, it's crazy. I see these people all the time going, I do binaural beats. I do 10 hertz. I know that's ridiculous because they've never studied in a lab. If you listen to the same track more than three times, your brain will treat it as wallpaper because your brain...

is a very good filter. And I'll use an example. If you have a friend or a family member that lives near a railroad track, an airport, or a dump where they smell things or they hear things, they can live there and you go and visit them. You go, how can you stand there? That train goes by all the time or those airplanes fly overhead or that smell of that dump. And they go, I don't smell it. I don't see it. I don't hear it.

That's because the brain omits it because it's not a Dane journey. The default mode network says that's not important for me anymore. I'm going to omit it because in the spectrum of frequencies in the universe right now, if we could take your TV screen and if you could extend a line across the TV screen being all the frequencies in the known universe, we're not even a hair's breadth. We don't even perceive one 1.1%.

percent of all the frequencies. We occupy that frequency. But all those other frequencies are here and they're all influencing us in one way or another. So what we're learning in science is that this has a really big effect on our nervous system. That's why when people do, we do a lot of studies with psychedelics as in we're

we're not the intervention, the psychedelics, the intervention. What we're is the integration. And set and setting is so important because whatever environment you're in, your body will play out that role. And so if you can set the environment, like they play beautiful music, they might burn incense or, you know, whatever they do, I'm not a psychedelic.

but I helped them. That gets you into the states. So now your brain is more receptive because you've turned on the parasympathetic system and that's your creative brain. And now your creative brain can have those experiences. And what we found is if we can trigger that gamma, which we can do, you actually produce more GABA because each of these brain waves actually triggers a neurotransmitter. So if you want to have a DMT experience, I can show you how to do it with BrainTap. You don't have to do a psilocybin or DMT. You have DMT in every cell of your body and it's not the DMT that's doing it anyway.

It's your body's interaction with that chemo. So we can... So again, what are some of the things that you can do with brain tap? Well, the main things like in sports, for instance, we have most of the heavyweight boxing champions use brain tap. Both Super Bowl quarterbacks use brain tap.

Tom Brady is one of our biggest advocates. He used BrainTap for sports. We use it in schools all over the world. We have a study where we showed in Florida that within six weeks, we took everybody off the dementia scale because it's an energy equation. Every cell of your body is producing voltage. And as we age, that voltage goes down.

But we can stimulate that voltage through light, sound, and vibration and increase your voltage in your brain. When you were born, your brain was 18.1 volts. But as we age, it goes down. So if it drops below 7, 6, or 5, you'll have occasional symptoms like dementia. But if it drops below 4, you're definitely going to have dementia. If it drops below 3, you're going to start having Alzheimer-like symptoms. If it drops below 2, you're going to have full-blown...

Alzheimer's. But your brain can learn to regulate that energy. And we've done studies with people over 90 years old and shown that we can increase their brain voltage in less than five weeks because the brain, every cell of your body wants light energy. The body wants the right light energy and it wants the right sound energy. So what we've done is our algorithm, we just call it brain chat, but it's an algorithm that I've been working with since 1986. And we track it with, now we can track with EEG before we were doing it through GSR. But

There's different ways you can measure the body's react to stimulus. And so we're always looking at, like you do a cold plunge, for instance. People are doing biohacking. They'll do a cold plunge. Well, that cold plunge puts your body into a state of hyperarousal. So now the body has to re-regulate. It's the re-regulation that works. When somebody goes to a chiropractor, we know that when they make the adjustments,

The whole nervous system has to rewire around that adjust. Now it's the rewiring that does the change, not the adjust, but you have to do the right adjust for us. So all these things, the body is always interacting again with its environment. Okay. So what does the brain tap look like and literally how does someone use it? Yeah.

Yeah, well, we have an app. So some people just use it with the app. We have 120,000 users. So most of them just have the app because they're all over the world, 106 countries. And they just put the app on their earbuds. And if they want to wake up in the morning, we have AM sessions. We call them SMR. They wake your brain up. In the middle of the day, we have reboot sessions that

Like we showed at Google and Microsoft, we showed if they did a 20 minute brain tap session, they could get 26% more work done because in 20 minutes you can have what's equivalent to a four hour nap and your brain re-regulates. And now you have that cortisol, dopamine and norepinephrine again. Just like you have a new morning, you have all that energy. And then at night we have sessions that

downregulate, to take you into delta, because that's the only time your brain opens up something called the glial lymphatic system. Imagine this. In 2015, they found a new part of the human anatomy. Every physiology book on the planet has the lymphatic system stopping at the neck.

but not anymore because now you've reached level four sleep. There's a part of your brain that actually activates that's not seen until you reach level four sleep. So what I always tell people is what else is dormant inside our human body? When you talk about awakening the genius or waking up genius potential, we have such genius within our body. We just need to activate it through the right mode and through the right environment. Okay. So what will someone experience? Like what state will they be in where brain's happily useful to them?

And what do they experience once they use it for X number of minutes or hours? Well, what we do is we're teaching the nervous system to regulate so that you can increase your baseline activity so you can have more peak performance moments. That's the main. But the main thing people get with BrainTap is better sleep. You know, a lot of the biohackers and things like that will do it because they'll measure their sleep with four rings and watches and things like this. And we usually find...

When we did our study with the coal miners in Australia, we actually, these guys were in bed 10 hours a day. So the myth, there's a myth out there about sleep. You need eight hours of sleep. That's not true. You need one hour of deep sleep and two hours of REM sleep, and I can beat any sleep score. But what we find...

six and a half hours is optimal in longevity, but you have to have good sleep. So the number one thing people get is they go to sleep faster and they go deeper and they wake up with more energy and recharge. In the morning, I tell people, if you drink coffee in the morning, you have a dysregulated nervous system because you just crushed your cortisol. If you're going to put it

a chemical into your body, you know, a substance, a biological into your body, your body has to react to it. So it's going to shut off its production of cortisol, dopamine, and norepinephrine. It's going to use caffeine. And that means eventually you're going to have to become dependent upon caffeine. So you shouldn't eat coffee when you wake up in the morning. You just slept all night long. You should have all the energy you need.

But the problem is the brain needs to wake up in an up cycle. So we're going to train the brain to wake up in an up cycle so you have energy. I'm not against coffee. I say you should drink it about... You mean wake up at the right time? Yeah. You wake up without alarm. If you're waking up without alarm, it's actually one of the worst things you can do to your nervous system unless you change it. One thing I always tell people is we now have phones and different technology. Wake up to something pleasant. Don't shock your system because...

When you shock your system, you're actually, your liver will dump 25 grams of sugar into the bloodstream right away. So it's like you had a candy bar before you got out of bed. Now there's a cascade of other things that happen there, but you're chasing now, you're chasing that blood sugar all day long now. It sort of dysregulates your whole system. So wake up to some beautiful music, but if you start doing this, you won't need an alarm clock. And that was something we learned in Silva and I teach people is it's called, you

remember wake or sleep control so if i want to wake up at six in the morning or four in the morning or three in the morning it doesn't matter i just tell myself that before i go to bed i use the system and it basically i wake up at that time and i wake up in an up cycle i don't feel like i've been ripped off that i didn't get enough sleep i got the sleep that i needed and the sleep cycles will continue because the deeper you can get to delta the faster you get to delta i mean the

better your sleep and the less you need. And you're going to still get the recharge because what we really want is a recharge because the cells, your body works like a, what they call a, it's conductive. So it's a transducer. So it affords energy and transmits that energy out the cell. When you're sleeping, you open up the parasympathetic system and you recharge those cells. If you don't get deep sleep, then you don't get recharged. You know, we, we all have those nights where we, we don't sleep very well. It's something's happened.

or something like that. And we wake up, we just don't have the energy. That's because we didn't go through the cycle of sleep. And then, of course, we have the afternoon session. We recommend, if possible, if you can't do it at two in the afternoon, then you do it when you get home from work so that you can have energy and be there present with your family and have, you know, more energy to do the things you love to do, because we're not here to work totally 24-7. We're here to, the job should give us the life we desire, not

the light that we're living. Okay. So if you're going to use this to improve your sleep, do you use it right before you sleep or you can use it earlier in the day? Well, what we found, you can use it earlier in the day. The Google study we did, they actually improved their sleep by 47% and we never had them listen to a sleep study. They only listened in the afternoon. If you can offload that stress sometime during the day in a natural way, the body will regulate into sleep easier at night. Great. Again, what's the protocol that you do? What time of day or how long before you sleep to improve sleep?

What I said earlier was morning times. We have sessions for morning. We call it brain fit because in the morning you need a different brainwave training. When people say, oh, I meditate, I don't need that. Meditation is not the same thing. In fact, I could measure on one hand the 30,000 brains I've scanned and all the people that say they meditate that they don't stress their brain out when they meditate because they didn't do anything for their default mode network.

They still went there with their own monkey mind and they don't know. They don't really, unless they're doing breath work. I found some people using breath work, they actually do regulate their brain because the breath is key to the nervous system function. So the morning time is important. The afternoon time is important. And the evening going to bed is important. Now there's a saying, a little bit of something's better than a whole lot of nothing. So if you, you just fit it in when you can, but as long as you do this three times a week, you're going to keep up regulating your nervous system. You're going to think better, going to be smarter. We've shown in

our studies with kids, they just become smarter. There's something called the Mozart effect. I don't know if you've ever read about it, but they play classical rock music in a classroom and kids are smarter. They don't teach them anything different, but what happens is that

That broke music is what they call 10 cycle music. So it puts their brain in an alpha state. Now you have what they call hypernesia, super memory. So we're using all of these different sciences at one time. And it looks like you're using virtual reality, but it's not. It's a headset with a visor that comes down with eight flashing LEDs, but they flash in a very specific way.

We call it earth frequency because everything on earth has a different frequency, usually between 0.5 and 88 hertz. And so we use that to basically trick the brain into thinking like you're on a mountaintop if you have 7.8 hertz frequency, or you're near the ocean at 10 hertz frequency, or you're watching a fire at 10 hertz frequency. We're doing all these things to use frequency to put the brain into a state because the brain fills in the gap. It's like when you hear your song on an elevator, at first you didn't know what it was, but while you're on the elevator, you start

realizing, hey, that was a song I knew from high school. They really butchered it. You know, now it sounds, you know, it's elevator music now. It's not the same song, but the rhythm and the cadence was there. The brain, every memory is like a beat on a string. So they pulled on that string and all of a sudden all the memories flooded. So we're going to use positive experience, positive psychology as well, so that we can change the way the brain expresses itself

when you're awake. So you do this practice and then you, then you live your life. You know, it's, it's not something you can't do it at the same time you're doing other things. It's something, but we tell people get up 10 minutes early in the morning. You're not spending any more time, but you'll wake up in an up cycle. Do it right when you go to sleep. You don't have to do any time. Just when you're ready to go to sleep, put it, put it

Put it on. And then in the middle of the day is the only time you're going to need to take, you know, a 20 minute break somewhere to do it. Okay. What other uses that you're exploring right now for brain tap that you haven't verified or vetted yet? Or do you feel like you've figured out all the possible uses? Oh, no, we have six studies going on right now around the world. One of the ones we're most excited about, we're getting really good results is Parkinson's.

And what we're doing is we're showing, we already did this with the opioid. And I have a saying, you can't have the pill without the skill. So we took in the opioid study, and this is what we're proving with Parkinson's, is that everybody in the study had to take opioids because they had a surgery. But our group, most people don't realize opioids were only approved for four weeks of use. So our study showed if they use BrainTap and opioids at the same time, could they get off within four weeks? Every person in the study that used BrainTap did. Every person that did

was still on them six months later because brain became dependent upon the chemical instead of on their own brain function. So we're doing the same thing with Parkinson's. We're showing them they can use the Parkinson's medicine to get them quick results, kind of like GLP that's the big thing right now. You can use GLP to get to lower your appetite, but now if you use brain temperature,

At the same time, you hardwire those new behaviors and attitudes into your brain. So it becomes easier for you when you have to get rid of it or you become dependent upon it, have to use it the rest of your life. Oh, could you use it without the, you know, Zempik and stuff like that to train your brain and eat less?

Oh, yeah. When I was featured in People Magazine, this was back in 2006, we had sent them 1,000 people that lost half their weight and kept it off for more than five years because it's not really what you're eating. Now, that's a byproduct of what's happening, but it's what's eating you. When I talk about the stress response, imagine that you have a positive attitude. Well, that's fine. You can look at your phone 300 times a day. That's the average person's use. But let's say you have a negative personality.

propensity. You have something's always going wrong or you're always looking for the other shoe to drop. Well, every time you look at that phone, you call, you caused a cortisol response, which triggered a stress response in the body. The body has to respond in the same way it would respond if you're being chased by a tiger. So that, but that happens over and over again. And pretty soon what happens is the insulin pump says, you know what? I'm not going to keep on. I'm just going to keep dripping. And insulin is a fat storage hormone. So the number one thing we do is we teach people to get back control of their stress. And now they don't eat the same way because they're not

The body's saying, I need fuel. That's why people can't sleep, by the way. Two-thirds of the world isn't sleeping because they don't have enough energy to sleep. It means you don't have enough energy to sleep. What do you mean? Yeah. You need energy to sleep, but you don't need a stickers bar. What you need is you need ATP. What light energy does when it enters into the brain and why we use retinal flashing and going into the ears is all the blood from your body circulates to the ears and then into the brain. So the hemoglobin absorbs this light energy, delivers it into the brain, and when the brain flattens,

finds a cell that is at maximum capacity because the cell will not accept more energy than it can take. It will share with the cell next to it. It's called photobiomodulation. Now you have energy. It won't keep you awake. This is one fact that most people don't know. When you're sleeping, there's more neurological activity happening while you're sleeping than when you're awake.

So you're using a lot of energy to sleep. So the brain's saying, get up, get me some food. I don't have any energy because you don't have a better solution than eating food. It doesn't need food. What it needs is it needs ATP. And that can be formed. So think of what light energy does. When a cell absorbs that light energy, it goes into the mitochondria. And imagine that there's a guy in the middle of the cell spinning his arm around like a clock, you know, going around the arm.

the time of a clock, every time it comes around to 12, it spits out one ATP molecule. What they've shown in the science is that if you use the right frequencies of light, every time it spins around, it spits out 32 of those. So if you had a Tesla and it took you 32 minutes to fill it, if you had a Tesla station like this, you could fill it in one minute.

That's what we're doing for the brain. We're giving the brain energy. Now, all that energy goes down the spine, which is known as the keyboard of the brain. Then it goes out to the limb. So it's actually feeding energy throughout the whole body, but it's coming from the control center, the brain, out to the physiology that causes your psychology to either be positive or negative.

because your physiology will affect your psychology. Great. Very good. Where can people get the BrainTap? They can actually go get a 14-day trial over at BrainTap.com. They can go there, try it for themselves. If they don't like it, just cancel within the 14 days. You won't be charged. And you can do it with the app. I mean, that's a good way to start. And...

90% of people that do that will start sleeping better that night. So just do it. You don't need equipment, just literally just the app will do it? Yep. They just go there, sign up for the free trial, download the app and use it for 13 days. If you don't like it, just cancel it. We have a 70% conversion when people do that. So if people will do that and really use it, there's a 21 days quick start guide just to the first 13 days. Magic will happen for you because you have an innate intelligence. It knows what to do. We just have to give it the energy. So what is...

I don't know, what's some feedback that really made you happy from customers or that surprised you? The one study, the one feedback I like was we had an autism study where when we got the kids up to 23% alpha, because in autism, they don't have alpha brainwave. 90% of those kids started speaking with no speech pathology. Oh, wow. And these are, I mean, we hear magic here all the time, but it's really the magic's inside the individual.

Our body has an idiot. Someone that's had a stroke. Yeah, we have a whole program for that. A stroke is basically the brain trying to rewire around itself. It needs neuroplasticity. Neuroplasticity is actually an energy equation. If you have enough energy in the brain, your brain can rewaddle around it. That's why when we're kids, we can bounce back up after an injury. Every one of us had traumatic brain injuries when we were kids playing, but we had enough stem cells, we had enough energy that...

brain healed itself very quickly. As we age, it becomes more difficult. So we have a study we did in Gaylord, Michigan, where we took all the kids in the school that had concussions that year. Half of them got brain tap, half didn't. They all got treat, but half of them got brain tap at the end of their medical treat. That group who went back one year later, they didn't use brain tap for one year. After one year, they call it a watch out study. The group that used brain tap had between 30 and 70% improvement in all neurological markers. So the sooner you can get that brain working, get more energy into it,

the quicker your healing will be and the longer it will last. Okay, excellent. All right, so people can go, you know, again, Google or Apple store and get the BrainTap app. And that's like by far the easiest way for them to experience this right away. Yeah, and then they'll learn about that. Then they can learn about the headset. They can go on my YouTube channel, you know, Dr. Patrick Porter, and they can see a lot of videos. They can see the headset there.

if they do hashtag braincap, they'll see thousands of testimonials from people like, you know, when we were on the Joe Rogan show and things like that. I mean, he had one of our boxers on there and the boxer was telling him, now that guy has, he was a world champion in boxing. Now he's the world champion in belt desire. So these are things that...

because boxers are getting their head rang all the time. But if you can be neuroprotective, meaning that you prepare it. So a lot of sports teams are using it to create what they call neuroprotection because the brain has to keep its energy level up, especially when it's being assaulted. What's the difference or the efficacy difference of the headset versus the app? What we find is you can get results with both, but we usually find that you can get the results in half the time using the headset because the light energy makes it just a faster energy equation. But

If they can't afford the headset, then just get the app. I mean, doing something right now is better than doing the training. Okay. Well, very good. Well, thanks so much, Patrick, for coming on the podcast. I appreciate it. All right. Thanks for having me and good luck, everyone. I'm on a mission to better our billion brains. So people who have listened this far, you know it's your brain we're talking to. So let's take some action. If you like this podcast, please click the link in the description to subscribe and review us on iTunes.

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