Informed Consent 101: What Big Pharma Doesn’t Want You to Know
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Hello, this is Richard Jacobs with the Finding Genius podcast. My guest today is Alexandra, which is a founder of a platform called Just The Inserts. So the website is also justtheinserts.com. The platform is dedicated to empowering individuals with accessible, transparent info about medical choices. So Alexandra has a research background and she's very, well, what's called informed consent.

It's very important to her. We're going to talk about her story and what Just the Inserts does. So welcome, Alexandra. Thanks for coming. Thank you so much for having me. Yeah. Tell me about your backstory. What got you into informed consent and dealing with the whole medical world?

Well, like most people that spend time doing anything personal, a story started it and then the stories of everyone that I serve continue it on. So for my own personal story, I was active duty military for five years. My first assignment was the Pentagon and I pinged around the national capital region and Washington DC region for about five years working for some pretty incredible missions. But throughout that time I had a

just here and there, some things that happened in life, just medically, even though I was considered pretty healthy. I was always acing my physical exams. But by the time that I got out of the military, even with how healthy I was in my early 20s, I had a drawer full of prescription medications. And the reason for that is because anytime that I would have a sprained neck or knee issues or

you know, a cold or anything like that. I was just given a prescription and really no informed consent.

was provided. And some of the adverse reactions that I had from these pharmaceuticals were worse than what I originally went to the military doctor for. And I realized that the medications that might be provided might not necessarily be the best thing for that individual, not saying at large, but just for that individualized care. And the whole reason why they did that was to get you back to the mission and started to think, maybe if we took a

look at the situation that they're in. Maybe we could find a better alternative or maybe a combination of pharmaceuticals or lifestyle or diet or anything like that to get to that root cause. And then that would get us back to the mission and get us to the whole intent of why I was prescribed all these things in the first place. So then I got out of the military and I started to become very natural minded because I dealt with a five year strabismus.

struggle. It's a very challenging time with severe adult acne. It wasn't just my ego that was hurt. It was very physically painful, so much so that I didn't want to sleep on my side of my pillow because the satin pillowcase hurt just to have against my cheek. And again, it just forced me to start researching the foods that I was shopping for my family.

my husband and I and the foods that we were eating and he was diagnosed with degenerative disc disease. And so it just really forced us to start to look at all the products that we accepted on the market, whether that be a personal care product or whether that be a food product and then eventually medical products. And so

In my research, I realized that there are legal documents called manufacturer inserts and every prescription medication and every vaccine on the market has a manufacturer insert on the FDA website. And some over-the-counters also have manufacturer inserts or they have insert-like information on FDA.

daily, it's called DailyMed. It's the National Institutes of Health. They have a database that you can go to to try to get that informed consent of just understanding the ingredients that are in the product, known potential adverse reactions that have been reported to the manufacturer, that have been regulated by the government. So this is all just really important information to be an informed consumer. However, depending on where you are in your journey, it can be quite polarizing to have a conversation about

certain medical products or the medical industry and scientific industry or pharmaceutical industry. So I just really wanted to have an open, respectful conversation about being informed. And throughout that process, I realized that there was a gap in

the consumer side of things, of not being informed about the products that we are recommended by our medical providers. And I created a social media page and then I eventually created a website and I just realized how hungry people were. People just wanted the same information. We didn't want to be called anti-science for just researching ingredients or just figuring out, okay, I have this medical condition. According to the FDA, this medical condition can increase my risk for a potential adverse reaction that's called

called a contraindication. So just teaching people what was already on FDA websites or CDC websites, the .gov websites, taking that information and kind of making it more accessible and more digestible for the average person to go to. So I would say 99.9% of everything that I post is from a .gov resource, and it's just taking all that information that might have been cherry-picked at large from the medical and scientific communities and making it more accessible.

Are there any particular conditions that you feel like you have to teach people how to advocate for themselves more than others or certain situations? I would say the autoimmune community really struggles. I actually just did some deep dive research on medical gaslighting and how there are certain people that are more predisposed to if they like, for example, for women, there is a bunch of studies that I went through that said

if a woman brings symptoms to her medical provider, I can't remember the percentage right now off the top of my head, but there's a large percentage of women when they bring some

some kind of physical ailment to their medical provider where they will get highly diagnosed for a mental condition. So here a woman is experiencing a physical pain and most likely she'll be diagnosed a mental condition, whereas if it was a man, then they might be treated for their physical condition. And so that's something that I think is just important to be aware of. And I think

do it so in a manner of maybe we're not communicating clearly to our providers because our providers, they have this expert experience, but if we're not communicating clearly to them, they're not going to be able to make those well-considered observations based on the information that we provide. And even though they have years and years and years of experience, they don't have that anecdotal experience for our own bodies. And it's a responsibility and an authority that we have to be able to communicate that to the provider. So

I tried to take it from many different angles. We have many medical providers within our community that reach out to me and kind of share their frustrations that they deal with on, you know, their side of things and how they wish they had more time to spend with patients or they have patients that come in just kind of accepting a

a prescription, not wanting to talk about those root causes of issues, not wanting to address lifestyle or nutrition aspects of things. And so it's just a very delicate balance. But I would say those struggling with autoimmune conditions tend to have a much harder time to get the care that they need. Okay. So what about some specifics? What are, what are things that people need to know about or be advocated for? You know, if they have cancer or, you know,

you know, whatever conditions you focus in on? That's a great question. So whenever someone goes in for a condition, so we could say Hashimoto's or something like that, if they go into their doctor, most likely there's going to be a standard order or standard protocol that that doctor is going to follow. And there are, it depends on the state and it depends on what insurance network they're in, but most likely there's kind of been an averaged out 10%,

template or recipe of how a patient that presents these symptoms, this is what you're supposed to recommend to them, to prescribe to them, and this is what they need to follow. These are the labs that you have to take, things like that. And so it's hard when we look at the different aspects of our health and how one Hashimoto's person might present different symptoms to the next one. When we go to our doctor's

We kind of need to ask them, what's your standard protocol? How do you address the symptoms for an average Hashimoto's patient? And then you can kind of look and see, okay, where do I need to maybe supplement care somewhere else?

else. Maybe I need to go to a specialist. Maybe I have a symptom that might be helped with an alternative care that might be better than going through a conventional healthcare model. Maybe there's something else that I can use to supplement this aspect of my healing process. And it can be really hard because we don't know what we don't know. And so many times it's just asking, what are my other options? What are some other things that you've seen other patients like me have success in in terms

trying to have that more collaborative environment with your provider. Some providers will just shut you down and, you know, they don't have time based on efficiencies and different things. It depends on how their business model is set up. But you can try to find maybe a second provider or third provider that will have a little bit more time with you just to find those answers and save everybody time. What about self-research and, you know,

Do you research stuff where like you're not arguing with the doctor, but at least you can tell if they know what's up or not? Oh, well, I mean, I have a great resource for you. It's called justtheinserts.com. So I teach you, I don't, I have deep dives into different pharmaceuticals and I do have general disease research.

I guess, worksheets that you can kind of go off based off dot gov information for you to learn for a disease of how it presents, what are the symptoms, how it transmits, things like that. But the average doctor's appointment is 15 minutes long. So there's no way for you to be able to ask all the questions that you need, research every single product that's recommended in a treatment plan. And so it's incredibly important as a

for you to research those products on your own. If somebody's telling you don't do your own research, that's an indication that they are not a provider that is inclined to have that collaborative relationship and it's

It is just a clear sign for you to seek someone else if you can't appear in a position to do so. So I would recommend if you are any kind of product that's recommended to you to go and find that manufacturer insert, read through the insert. And if that just seems really overwhelming, I have a free training course that teaches you exactly how to do that. And it's based off the FDA's instructions.

on how the manufacturer inserts are set up. So every single manufacturer insert follows a template. So once you learn how to read that template, then you can read any insert, whether you're sitting in line at your pharmacy or you're in your car or wherever you are, you can go and get that informed consent that you deserve immediately.

within a few minutes, depending on what it is. Well, what does that mean? Like, what's an example? Okay, here's a good, so my kids had impetigo last year. One of them had boils and the other one didn't. And so when I went to our family doctor for my daughter, because I was very worried about her, she had impetigo on her face and I was worried about blindness.

And I asked her, what are my options? And she gave me a whole bunch of different things that we could try. And then she said, however, with it being the face, there is an antibiotic that I would recommend. However, this typical antibiotic is not meant to be used around the eyes. So I'm going to prescribe this other antibiotic.

are antibiotic to you, but it's used off-label for this reason. So there really wasn't a perfect antibiotic for me. So she filled or she wrote the prescription. I went to CVS. I was standing in line at the pharmacy. I was able to whip up the manufacturer insert from the FDA website. I was able to read through, knowing my daughter's health history, knowing what her symptoms were, I was able to make an informed choice on if this product would be helpful or

for her health to heal from impetigo or would it be hurtful and maybe cause other conditions that she has to worsen? And so I was able to make that decision whether I accepted, delayed, or declined it. I knew based on my skill set that I built on how to remanufacture inserts to make that well-considered decision. Does that make sense?

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provider for you or what to ask those husbands? Yeah, yes. I go in depth in my free training course. I have the

what I just talked about, like how to find and read manufacturer inserts. And then I also talk about how to find a provider who values informed consent and different ways to vet providers, whatever you're researching, whether you're trying to find someone for a cancer journey or you're trying to find a pediatrician or whatever you're trying to do. There are certain common threads for providers who value informed consent, and that's really just not mandating

all products that they recommend for you to be able to have that decision to accept one product and maybe delay another one or decline another one. And then I have my book as well, where I go even more in depth of how to call providers, maybe some good questions to ask those providers to help narrow down if they're going to be the right fit for you.

And then I also have a pro-informed consent provider directory where there are providers across the nation that are opting in saying, yes, I honor parental and patient choice. Yes, I honor informed consent. And they're being listed on the directory as well. So then you can go in and look and see, okay, this provider has already opted in. They've already aligned with my values. And then you can go through them. However, as a caveat, I

I will say we have contacted over 3,000 providers and talked with over 3,000 providers. And there are some providers within certain insurance networks that say, yes, I do honor informed consent. Yes, I do allow my patients to accept or delay or decline certain medical products. However, I don't want to be listed because they believe that they might be targeted for

And so they don't want to be listed on the directory. So that's just something to be mindful too. If a provider's in a certain state or if a provider's in a certain hospital, they might be pressured through external agencies to accept certain products or force their patients to accept certain products. And so it's hard to navigate those situations. Are there certain conditions where this just appears to be like

I know we're getting out of hand, but just people really, really need some guidance because otherwise they just they don't know what to do. I would say the vaccine mandates. I'm not sure how you feel about them, but I personally believe that. I despise them. I think the this pandemic was the the greatest crime against humanity ever perpetrated thus far. OK, that's good to know, because I never know when I talk with anybody where they are on their journey. But so for me personally. So then you can say, tell me how you really feel about it. We're good.

Oh, well, that's great. I'm glad that you have, you know, it's some people when they look at it and then gets very emotional about the politics of it. And they kind of have this reactionary view on how things happened. And I feel the same way too. However, no matter what we're talking about, when we're talking about a COVID vaccine, we're talking about antibiotic, we're talking about anything, we don't want that precedent where we're being withheld educational or employment opportunities for not accepting a product. That to me, the the

core issue of it. No matter how you feel about the product, we don't want that for anything on the market. That should not have ever happened. And I personally have kind of been struggling with the recent updates that have been happening with the COVID.gov updates and the reinstatement of some of the military members that were forced to retire or they were under duress in order to accept the

that product, it's infuriating to me. Again, doesn't matter what you feel about the product. That should have never happened, in my opinion. Yeah, I agree. People were fired from all kinds of jobs. I mean, people isolated from each other and they died alone. I mean, just all kinds of... It just made everyone's lives miserable. Billions of people for no reason. None. It's horrible. And I remember having an

I had a conversation with someone at the very beginning of this, and this was before a vaccine was even on the lips of anybody's, you know, on the forefront of anybody's mind. And I remember talking with her and we were talking about the shutdowns and kind of the response of different countries around the world who were who was shutting down, who wasn't. And I remember her talking about

the spike of cases and I can't remember what country I think I want to say Sweden didn't shut down and they had this like spike of cases and I was trying to explain to her that it isn't just one moment in time you have to look at the whole breadth of it and the

Is this shutting down, just kicking the can further down the road? And what we know about isolation and how it can age someone dramatically and how we had all of these people that were healthy in their older years and they were isolated even just for a few weeks or months and they aged decades almost. Their cognitive abilities and what we know about so many of the other diseases, it does not make sense in my opinion when...

or didn't at the time. And just to ask those questions and be told that I didn't care and to be ostracized, it was alarming. It was very alarming to go through that.

Well, that's what they told you is, well, you don't care about people because you're not wearing a mask or something like that. Yes. Right. Well, and it was hard because all of the mask guidance consistently changed. And then I actually went because I didn't know. I had no idea. And I wanted to have the most updated information. And I remember going to the CDC website and reading through the mask research that they cited and...

I remember when all of the news headlines said, oh, masks are effective, masks are effective. And then I went to the study that all these news outlets kept citing and the actual study was done on mannequins. It wasn't even done on humans. Get out of here. It was. And they actually had pictures of the study. And it was this mask, these double masks on mannequins. And I'm thinking to myself, this is what everybody is going off of.

This is what everybody is basing their entire scientific credibility on. It was just bonkers to me. Wow, that's crazy. I had thought they had done experiments, you know, with hamsters and kind of like it's not a sheet between like a cloth between them, but et cetera, et cetera. I don't know. I hadn't heard anything about inanimate objects. I mean, that's absurd. That's crazy. Wow.

So I guess it's kind of funny. I'm sure you do. I still see people wearing masks today, even five years later. I do. And I said this when it first happened. And I think it's because the way that the mask mandates came about, especially at the state level. I knew then that the psychology that was used to enact all those mask mandates, the psychology of it will stronghold people to the day that they die. And there are children that are wondering, yeah, like I call them the hardcore mentally ill. Maybe, you know, it's not nice, but maybe.

But after five years, if you're walking around and you're not walking over like piles of dead bodies and everyone else seems to be okay, like why would you keep doing this? Right. Well, and it's that psychology of how it was brought about. And there's the aspect of it being introduced when everybody had a heightened fear sensitivity to everything that was going on and the lack of credibility of the information that we were getting and the drastic decline of public trust. It

to me, it's some people will just feel that need to do that, especially when those that were in very critical developmental times. So young children being told that they, in order to keep themselves safe, in order to keep their grandparents safe and not die, that they had to bear a mask. And so you see these young children that are now growing up or even

even those that are, you know, in college or something and they're still wearing masks because not that they truly fear a disease, but they fear of causing somebody else damage and harm. And so it's that psychology that is going to take a long time to unravel for some people. I think it's weird. The people that did that, you would think they would listen to the news. That's why they did that. Now the news says nothing about it.

Why do they still listen? Well, it's it's I have people in New York that message me about the mask ban that the governor is now trying to do. And they just think that it's really ironic that here a few years ago, everybody was supposed to be masked. And now they're trying to do a mask ban, you know, for people.

criminal intentions to prevent not up to no labels. Do it. They'll put a bandana and rob a store. I said that was funny. Yeah. You invite all these people in all masked. I mean, come on. Right. And so now there's this huge debate with certain parts of society where they're just trying to fight. Like, wait a second. You said that I couldn't go out to eat if I didn't wear a mask. You said, you know, you checked my papers and now you're saying I can't do it. And so it's just this. I did a study. I can't remember what it was for, but I was researching the prohibition

percentage of public trust before Vietnam, before there were like a whole bunch of things that happened in that time frame and how the trust that Americans had in their government went down drastically. I can't remember exactly. There were like three things that happened back to back and the trust went down. The same thing

parallel, the same amount of decrease happened from 2020 to 2024. And it's just shocking to me how we have some of these conversations with these medical providers and they're saying, well, don't listen to this podcaster. Don't listen to this person. They're not credentialed. They're not experts. But yet we were listening to the experts and it was a debacle and the experts couldn't even agree. And so it's hard to explain to them why you need to earn

to earn that trust. You can't just expect that trust because you had the privilege of going to medical school for eight years and now you're a doctor. You have to earn that trust with the public, with your patients, and have that collaborative environment. So I do try to navigate. There was plenty of doctors that

you know, saw what they saw in their clinics, you know, thousands of different people experiencing X, Y, Z, and they were ignored and deplatformed and all that. It's just so crazy. Exactly. So and then you had the people that saying, OK, well, you need to listen to this type of person because they're the only qualified experts to talk on it. And then somebody would come out and share their expertise and then say, well, OK, well, not that person because they're anti X, Y and Z. And so you just can't win.

It's not a fair debate. This physicist I knew had a column in Swarbrick and he wrote an article saying, you know, don't do your own investigation. Listen to the experts. It's bad for you to try to figure it out on your own.

It was a really, it was a blatant shill piece. And I was just like, man, I don't know how, I don't know how he wrote it. I just can't believe that. It's so crazy. It is. It is. And I think that many of them get into this bubble of what they maybe think that is acceptable and what you're supposed to say. And then it gets to the ears of the average person in America. And they just like what you said, kind of just the shill or they discredit you. And so I've talked with a few of them and I said, look,

I'm trying to help you preserve your profession. Because right now, based on these stats of public trust, you're going to be obsolete in a few years. If you follow any other – because I have a business background. If you follow any other industry or company that was at its prime and then they lost trust, it's only a matter of time that they lose all profit. Now, I will say, however –

especially for manufacturers that produce vaccines, having the 1986 Act and not being liable for serious injury and harm called SPAC vaccines, that does complicate things when we talk about supply and demand. I do think that we are on the path to potentially repealing that, whether I hope in my lifetime, because it's pretty bonkers to me that manufacturers aren't held liable for all of their products. Well, the corruption went all the way up and down the chain. You know, that's why you had everyone on board with it.

It was terrible, you know. But, well, getting back to your stuff, nowadays, are there certain conditions that you see a lot of pushback where it's really important for your people to be on with the, just the inserts information and also to expect pushback and how to handle it if so? Is that part of what you advise people or you're just giving them info and then they present it? What happens if they get ambushed by the doctor and the doctor gets like nasty with them?

That will happen. That's happened to me personally. And so that's where I focus on the inserts themselves. And then I also focus on the relationship between responsibility and authority. If you're responsible for a potential adverse reaction to a disease or to a medical product, then you therefore have the authority to make that decision. Your doctor doesn't have that responsibility, authority, your neighbor, your in-law, your friend, anyone on social media, any podcaster, they don't. You have to have that personal autonomy and that personal responsibility. And I think that goes to when you start to sense that there is medical complexity

coercion or medical bullying that is occurring where you set those boundaries and you say, I do not feel safe to continue in this conversation. Thank you for your time. I'll be seeking a second opinion. And so I actually provide, depending on the situation, different ways that you can handle that.

and navigate that because it can be tricky too because depending especially if we're talking about vaccines different states have different mandates they have different exemption processes they have different definitions within CPS on what constitutes medical neglect and you just need to be aware of all of those things so for example in the Commonwealth of Virginia it states in the

Department of Social Services, the definition of medical neglect says that preventative care such as well-baby visits and vaccinations do not meet the definition of medical neglect. So I know that if I'm in Virginia, I take my child to the ER and they threaten CPS with me because I don't accept that year's flu vaccine, I know that they can't call CPS on me solely for that reason. So that's important for you to know as a parent because that's where most people will receive that kind of pushback that you're talking about is that they will try to

wherever the situation is, either following the CDC schedule, if they're a pediatrician, or if you're in a hospital in an ER, they have standard orders. And I know this because medical professionals have told me about this and hospital administrators have told me this, that they have a checklist that they have to go off of and they are required by their job to ask you if you have received this vaccine and

And if you say no, then they have to offer it to you. And so if you do receive that pushback, there are ways to navigate it, but it just depends on your personal situation. So what I try to do is I try to point you to those tools and help you craft those responses in the best way possible. And then you really have to take it on your own to research your own personal situation. Do you have any like higher level advocacy programs if someone's really at a

in a pinch and there's not much time to decide. They're feeling time pressure, pressure from family, doctors, et cetera. I don't know. Do you have any like, again, higher levels of intervention or research for people or advocacy? Yeah, definitely. So I would point you to the free training course. It takes two to three hours to go to. It's free, no email required. You can go and take it right now. I also have audio options so you can listen to your car if you need to. And it's,

It teaches you everything. It's everything that you need to know on how to find and read those manufacturer inserts. It teaches you the things that you can say to your doctor. So, for example, if you're getting pushback from a doctor, say your son has an allergic reaction to a certain preservative and they want to push vaccine on you, but that vaccine has a preservative that you know your son has a contraindication to. That

allows you to have a little bit more power in your conversation when you're talking with that doctor to say, I understand that you have a requirement to make sure all your patients have this vaccine. However, my son has a contraindication to this preservative and this preservative is in the vaccine. So it just gives you that knowledge and confidence that you

otherwise wouldn't have, especially if you don't have a medical background. I understand that. So I would recommend if no matter where you are in your urgency of trying to navigate this journey with your medical provider to go take that training course. Again, two to three hours to go through it. And then within that course, depending on your situation, I have other resources linked. So the MBIC, which is the National Vaccine Information Center, they have lawyers on staff that have

vetted through all of the different legislations within that within your state. So I link a state map that you can go to and you can say, okay, my child is getting ready to go to daycare. These are the requirements. And these are also the exemption forms that I will need for my child to go to daycare. Because many times too, I've gotten messages from parents that said, I thought that

I had to give my child these vaccines. My doctor told me that they wouldn't be able to go to school if I didn't give them vaccines. However, these doctors don't know that there's an exemption program that can easily be downloaded from the website that you can download from a DACA website and then get an exemption. So again, it's just really important for you to be aware of these things. You're not going to be told most likely in that 10 to 15 minute with your doctor. So again, I put it

all in the training course that would be my first line defense for anybody listening right now to go and and read through that i've seen services in the past like pre-print cards saying i do not consent to blah blah blah or you know i feel like uh i'm not being i don't have informed consent i would like to see xyz apg do you have anything like that physical stuff that if people let's say uh you know i don't know if i can repeat this to my doctor i just feel weird about it can i give them something that might be a little bit easier for me to you know so i don't have to speak it

No, I understand. I've been there. So also within that resources tab of the free training course, there's a website called Circle of Mamas. And she has those printed cards, a lot of those printed cards out or just some printed quick like info sheet things that you can print out. Also, Physicians for Informed Consent. They have...

They call them disease information sheets and then the vaccine information sheets, I believe is what it is. They're supposed to mirror the CDC's vaccine information statements, but they provide more context and it's all cited and it's all from medical providers. So then you can go and research it. That would be really good to print out and maybe bring to your appointment. And I personally, biased, and I like to print out manufacturer inserts and I like to read through it before my appointment. And then if I have specific questions, I'll highlight certain aspects of the insert and

bring that to my appointment and say, and that's one thing I'll say too, if depending on where you are and if you're providers in an insurance network or if they're part of the American Academy of Pediatrics or ACOG or whatever external membership they're a part of, most likely they're going to have this stigma of people doing their own research. And so I would recommend not saying, I found this from justtheinserts.com because as soon as they hear .com, they are trained to disregard anything else that comes out of your mouth. So my recommendation is to print it straight from the FDA website,

Maybe even write the URL in the heading of if you print it out and say, this is from the FDA, this is from the manufacturer. I have questions about this certain section based on my own personal health history or my own situation, and then go from there. That's my best advice for that.

So for people that want to learn more, where can they go? What's like a central link or place to go? You can find everything at justtheinserts.com. I have the free training course. You can read the first chapter of my book for free. I also have over 50 pharmaceutical deep dives that I personally have covered researching many different aspects of different pharmaceuticals from Botox to...

labor and delivery drugs to hormone treatment drugs, like just basically anything. And then all the vaccines that are recommended on the adult and child schedule I've covered as well. Oh, one thing I forgot to ask you, and you run into the phenomena of drug induced nutrient depletion. Let me give you an example. Like, yeah, like if anyone that takes a drug long term, not all drugs, not all people, but they can deplete other things in the body, cause you, you know, sequelae. So you take metformin. Like my wife took metformin for a little while and she's getting really tired. I look it up.

And I find that it depletes B12. So I'm like, all right. So I tell my doctor, he's like, oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah, thanks, buddy. We got some B12 gummies and all that. She's up a minute. She felt better. But I found out about this phenomenon that might be something to incorporate, you know, in future stuff. Like, again, if I'm taking Prozac for three years, it's going to cause all kinds of things to happen in my body that didn't happen before. So it could...

possibly lead to, you know, depletion of certain nutrients I need over time. Right. I have seen it on the inserts. I've not heard that actual label of it, but I see it a lot with birth control because birth control will deplete, I believe, B vitamins well. And so that's important. And then also there are certain parts of long-term use for Adderall in children. It will inhibit growth factors for children. And so that's important to be aware of. So there are

are different parts of the inserts that will highlight if those are known. But again, the inserts are based off of reporting that has been done from the public. And so it's the data is only good as what is being reported. And we all know or most of us know that underreporting is a severe issue with medical products. And so that's why

I hopefully have tried to help shift that culture. And I know many other people are trying to shift that culture as well, is that if you do accept these products, please, please report it either to FAERS or VAERS. FAERS is for drugs. VAERS is for vaccines. So then we can make those more well-considered decisions in the future. Well, very good. Well, thank you so much for coming on the podcast. People should visit justtheinserts.com. Is that correct? That's correct. Thank you so much for having me. No problem. If you like this podcast, please click the link in the description to subscribe and review us on iTunes.

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