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Yeah. I like, I'll go a winter green every now and then or spearmint, but for the most part, I'm just like a fresh mint kind of guy. Sometimes all you need is a little reminder to refresh the everyday and shake things up. Yes, to fresh with Minto's gum. All righty. Let's talk about the holy grail of candy. Reese's peanut butter cups. Yeah.

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We did it. The legend. We made it happen. We did it. Yeah, boys. You always got the flyest shit on, dude. Everybody always tells you. I know it. This shirt here, I think it's been three days in a row I'm wearing it. That's the only thing I'm not good at is changing. You can wear that thing to dinner. You wear it to the courts. You wear that thing everywhere, man. Isn't that pathetic? It's the best. I started doing that only because I'm protecting, hiding these tits. The tits got big, bro.

Can't help it. Welcome back to New Heights, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you.

We are a Wondry show produced by Wave Sports and Entertainment. That is correct. We are your hosts. I am Travis Kelsey. This is my big brother, Jason Kelsey, out of Cleveland Heights, Ohio. Cincinnati Bearcat alums, as you know. Subscribe on YouTube, Wondry Plus, or wherever you get your podcasts. And follow the show on all social media at New Heights Show with 1S. Got an incredible guest coming.

Coming on this episode. And you're going to find out who it is. There's clues on the screen right now. You probably already know. I mean, you probably got a little. They'll probably ruin the surprise because it helps people tune in and watch it and we need to advertise it. I mean, this is right up there. You can't ruin this episode though, man. I've met this person once. I met, we should just say his name because it's going to be. I've met this person one time and let me tell you, I have not been starstruck by many people.

I did. I was kind of like I am now. I didn't know what to say. Like, I was just at a loss of words. And I'm like, just don't quote every movie he's ever been in, because that's what every dummy doo-doo head does. But I think I proceeded to probably do that. If it's a good one, you got to just be tasteful with it if you're going to do it. Yeah. It's going to be perfect timing and great delivery. You got to deliver it if you're going to do it. Oh, you guys are in for a treat. I mean, we're in for a treat, too. It's cool to even have this guy on.

Alrighty, alrighty, our guest today is an absolute legend. You may know him from his film and TV career spanning over three decades. He's written and starred in some of the most iconic movies of all time, including Billy Madison, Happy Gilmore, The Waterboy, and so many more. He's a one-time winner of the Mark Twain Prize for American Humor, 16-time MTV Movie Award nominee. Wow.

He's got Teen Choice Awards, People Choice Awards, a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. Yeah. He's a fan of high-quality H2O. Jesus. Today, Junior. Spin.

Spit it out. That's right. Our guest is the one and only Sandman, Adam Sandler. That's right, baby. Boys, I'm so happy to see both of you guys. Love you both. You know that. You know that. Thank you so much for coming on, Adam. This is incredible. He's iconic, man. You too, fellas. Yes. Yes. Come on, Jason. Hit me. So,

So you recently just finished a standup special. Yes. Yes. That's going to be launching on, I think that Tuesday. Yes. Yes. Yes. It comes out on Tuesday. I did. I was doing a tour running around for like a couple of, a couple of years, you know, in and out. I kind of do it. Like I go away for a couple of weeks and I go back home for a month or two. Then I go do another couple of weeks, that kind of thing. Yeah. And, uh,

When I was out on the tour, I was like, oh, man, probably should make a special just so I because I know one day I'm going to throw this material out and move on to some new stuff. So might as well document it. And so I said, let me do a special. Netflix said that sounds good. And then I called Josh Safdie, who's this great director. And he did Uncut Gems. Him and his brother, Benny, did Uncut Gems. And I said to Josh, would you want to maybe direct?

direct a comedy special and he said yeah yeah and i thought we were just going to shoot a normal special but he just kind of took over and made it a different style and different feel and threw weird stuff at me and we it's just it's a special but it's kind of like a movie it's different it's a little different yeah i cannot wait for everybody to see this man

They let us preview it and that was alone the coolest thing ever. Oh, yeah. It was awesome, brother. Thank you, bud. You're right. It is different. And it's like kind of segmented. There's a whole like thing going back and forth with the projection and all that. How do you even get to like creating something like that? I know that like stand up.

You're bringing on jokes and you're trying to figure out your routine. But that thing was so unique. How did that whole process come about? Well, I was kind of ready to just do a normal stand-up special. I was excited because I was kind of locked in. You know, when you do stand-up and you're on the road...

it evolves you get better and better at your act and figure out better things to talk about figure out better ways to tell your your thoughts or your jokes or whatever the hell it is and so i was kind of locked into a certain way that that i was ready to ready to you know throw down and um and then he he josh was just kind of like you know we've seen

seen you do a stand-up special already i did one like six six years ago so he said let's try to come up with a new way to present it so that's kind of what happened what made you want to get back into the stand-up realm like you took a long hiatus from it not too long i saw 100 fresh live actually i was at the uh the hayworth out there in la dude that's right but i remember seeing you i was so fuck i was in a whole nother world and uh

I remember two just off the top that I still remember. There's a phone wall of keys. Yes, yes, yes. I fucking sing that every single time I walk out of the goddamn door. Oh, I love that, buddy. I haven't forgotten since. Love that, Travis. And then I want to grow old with you, dude. Yes, I sang that too. Yes, yes. I sang that for the special.

That was six years ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That is so fucking cool. Buddy, that was six years ago when I saw you. That was so fucking cool, man. I saw you in the dressing room back there at the Hayworth. You're the fucking man, dude. You too, buddy. And it was, I don't even know why I started. Oh, yeah, here's what happened. I was doing movies. Life was going good. You know, I did Saturday Night Live and me and my friends, you know, Spade and Schneider and Rock, we used to run around and do stand up back then. So cool.

And it was great. And then all of a sudden, I was doing a lot of movies. And it just became like your schedule was kind of overwhelmed. And so I stopped doing stand-up for maybe 20 years or so. Sheesh. And then I was doing grown-ups.

And all I heard was Kevin James and Chris Rock and Schneider and Spade and Colin Quinn and all the guys in the movie and Norm Macdonald all talking about their gigs they had that weekend. And I was like, I was a little jealous, like, oh, man, maybe I should get back on the road. So that got me into it again.

That's awesome. Well, make sure everyone you check out Love You. It's streaming now on Netflix. Wonderful jokes. It's a very unique, as we've talked about, comedy stand-up special, including a wonderful ode to comedy, which, man, if this world needs comedy more than ever, it was just beautifully done. Really well done. Thank you, man. Yeah, we wrote a song that kind of just talked about all the –

movies and comedians that influenced me and my, my, my friends growing up and our generation and that kind of stuff. And what we used to sit and watch growing up with our, our parents or with our buddies or whatever it was. And so wrote a song and that, that puts a lot of that stuff in there.

It's got music. It's got a flamenco guitar to start off with right away. I'm like, man, he's bringing it right off the bat. That's right. I did my best. By the way, that was terrifying because I knew sometimes when I'm alone in my room playing my guitar, I go, man, I think I could have been a guitar player. I'm pretty damn good. Then when I get on stage, I start getting my fingers get tight. Everything's nerve wracking. So when I was shooting a special, I was like,

Come on, man. Let's get this thing right. But I did all right. I did all right. You nailed it. Thanks.

Thank you. And then the Bluetooth comment hit a little bit too close to home for me. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That happens on occasion. That happens. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't like those times. All right. Let's talk about Happy Gilmore 2 because you got that coming up. You just said you're moving to Jersey here coming up. Yes. That's what you're going there for, right? The whole thing was to get to hang out with Travis. That's why we put it together.

No, yeah, yeah. We're going there. Travis, by the way, thank you. I heard you talking about it, and I was on your show, you guys. And then, of course, I was like, you know, I was thinking of – we were talking about you playing my son while we were writing it literally like six months ago. We were like, imagine if Travis was my first baby. How funny that would be. Just a badass. But we know football season. I think I got the swing down. Yeah.

You do. I think I got the swing down. Can you crack it like that? I was out there the other day and it was, it was literally the day after you went on Fallon and, and told everybody. And I was like, man, you know what? I just got to do a ceremonial one. And I fucking ripped it. You did. It felt so good, dude. What a feeling when you look up and that thing's going straight. You're like, that works. How did that happen? It's just,

I bet you rip the shit out of it. What do you hit him when you play? You bang it long, don't you? Yeah, I can hit it about 320 consistently off the drive. Son of a bitch. But I could be three holes over or right next to the hole. It's either way. No, but I've seen you swing. It is nice. It's fun.

I got to say, when I'm doing the Happy Gilmore swing, I'm maybe one for four with that. One for four. It's not a thing. A little TV magic on the back end? There's definitely, I call my own cuts. All right, let's see. Oh, here we go. All right, buddy. Oh, that's a long walk up. Oh, fuck.

You can hear Pat Mahomes in the background telling you where we're at. Pat's got a good swing, too. He can bang him, too, I'm sure. You guys have fun golfing up. He's a way better player than I am. He takes it way more serious. I'm just out there for the fun, man. Yeah, well, you're a fun man. Everybody on this little hang here besides me seems like they have fun on the course. I get a little snappy out there. A little...

I get frustrated. Have you gotten back into playing at all just to kind of get ready for the movie? Or did you ever did you take time off from playing golf or? Yes. Sort of similar to my comedy career. I kind of dipped out for a while and then I was like, what am I doing, man? Let me get back into golf. And I absolutely I played when I was a kid. I played when I was like 12.

And my dad was awesome. My dad was a really good golfer. He'd shoot in the low 70s. I still can't do it. I can't get it there. Holy cow. I can't get down low. I've had a good nine. I had a good nine maybe two weeks ago at Riviera. Oh, nice. I think I...

I could say. That's where they play the Genesis Open. That's a legit course. Exactly. That's a tough one. I mean, I played from the whites, but I shot okay. But I can't put 18 together. I can't do it. I can't concentrate that long. Are you guys good with 18? Dude, I suck. I have a very little attention span. It's like third to last in the Tahoe golf outing. Oh, yeah. It was not good. Didn't break 90 one time. Fuck.

I hear you. That's kind of my spot to around 88 or something. I'm good probably playing 18. When it gets to like 18 three days in a row, I am just cooked, man. I am cooked, and my swing is all over the place. I'm not made for three days of golf in a row. That's a lot of thinking. That's a lot of thinking. I can't stay still for that long. Like right around hole six, I start going, what the hell am I doing here? What happened to my life? Do they have burgers on the turn? What are we –

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Once I eat. That's so funny. When I grew up, my dad, we used to play at this one place, and I think it was Hole 13. They used to put out...

Polish sausages and hot dogs and stuff like that. And every time I ate there, my father would go up. There it goes. Game over. He's going to stink now. I'd be like, no, no, no. And I would just eat too much and just get in a little coma and be staring. My father would be going, why did you eat that? You moron.

I was going to say you inspired an entire like generation to get on the golf course, man. I promise you, you did. I was one of the kids. We used to go up to the public course all the time and just wanted to absolutely hammer them and, and hit them with that, the happy Gilmore swing. And we were hockey players growing up. So that, that, that the movie extra hard. Yeah. So hard, man. And, uh,

I know you both you guys remind me of my friends so much growing up like if you met my friends what you did you actually saw a few at the U2 show right that was awesome man oh how cool was that concert that was incredible what a night but it was more fun seeing you there buddy we love seeing you

No, that was like, I was telling Trav, I've told him before, I told him, reminded him again today. I have not been starstruck like much of my life and seeing all of you guys next to me, like the entire ensemble, especially you, it was like, man, what the, where the fuck am I at right now?

That was cool, man. It's insane, man. I was like, I came here to watch you two, and I saw every person that I ever looked up to in all of the best shows, all the best movies. It was so cool. It was awesome. Thank you, man. Well, we love seeing you too, bud. We talked about you flying home that night. Anyways, that was a fun time. Both you boys remind me of exact –

dudes i hung out out with growing up and you you two guys the guys they would protect me i was a little bit of a wise guy and uh and i had a couple boys like you always around making sure i didn't get beat up too much was it jason speaking of uh kind of like being in a room where you're like how the fuck did i get here was there ever a moment like that early on for you where you're just like how how did it happen so fast how did i get here

Yes, yes, yes. I'm sure I like I don't remember anything. Saturday Night Live, that kind of did it to you. Every every week you meet superstars that you grew up with Dan Aykroyd, like all the this the original SNL cast. We got to meet so many of those stars.

cast members and then just comedians we all loved growing up. Then rock stars, we got to meet Paul McCartney and Bruce Springsteen and everybody we talked about, all of a sudden we were in the room shooting the shit with them. It was incredible. That's awesome, man.

Before we get off of Happy Gilmore, though, I'm actually curious. I'm not familiar with how the original thought process of the movie came about. Okay, yeah. And I'm pretty curious. Was it just you just messing around on a golf course and it...

Kind of connecting the dots or what? It was my dad. Like I said, he liked golf. We used to go to the driving range a lot. And I had a great friend, Kyle McDonough, who ended up playing pro hockey. He's a great hockey player. In New Hampshire, it's a big hockey town. Oh, yeah. Hell, yeah. Yeah. So Kyle came out with me and my dad. And he didn't play much golf, but he was banging them. We were young, maybe ninth grade or something like that.

And he was banging him. My father kept saying, man, you hockey players, there's something about your wrist or the way you turn or something like that. And I just was like, I think I was in college or finishing up college or just maybe 23. And I thought, man, that'd be pretty funny to see a guy with a hockey mentality. Yeah.

have such a big hit that he gets up, it gets on the tour. And I remember calling my dad and telling my dad about it and going, what do you think? And he was like, yeah, it could be pretty good. We'll see. We'll see. But we'll mean me and my buddy Hurley, he, who I write all the movies with, we would write that and we'd call my dad and say, does this make sense? And golf, when you put, what do you think? You're like, and,

It's all in the hips and stuff like that. That was my dad. I would say, what is it? He said, it's all in the hips, baby. It's all in the hips. And that's why we wrote that. Chubbs. Chubbs, yeah. What's in store with the sequel? Without giving away too much, obviously, but what are we looking for here? Well, first of all, Travis, we're going to have fun because the scene you're doing is

is with so many great golfers. It's going to be amazing. You're going to be funny as hell. Oh, yeah. The movie itself, it just picks up from an older guy who's, you know, played golf a long time. Some stuff goes on in his life. He's a little, he's different. He's a bit of a mess when you meet Happy. And then we kind of,

Trying to get his life cooking again. Wonderful. I love it, man. I think it's cool. It's going to be, I mean, we're trying to make you laugh the whole time, but it's got a cool vibe to it. If you're doing it, it's going to be fucking great. You're on Fallon letting everybody know that you've been waiting for the right storyline. You've been waiting to feel the moment of it and to do it right. Yes, yes, yes.

We got all the trust in the world. You're going to bring happy back and make them lovable again, man. Thank you, bro. Thank you. I love you. I don't want anyone to get let down. So you got that in the back of your head. You just want to make it as good as you're capable. Me and my pal, I mean, we were just in the room. We just sit every line. We're going, are we sure? Are we sure? Are we sure about this one? All right, this is good. Let's move. We're just examining everything. We just want it to be as cool as possible.

The original got me on the golf course and also got me in the batting cages doing shit I probably shouldn't be doing. But toughen it up. You did that? Just toughen it up. See, man?

I knew you could handle that shit. I would run from anything going on. How fast of a ball was hitting you? It was like 50, 60. You're crazy, man. I was the guy in Little League when I got hit by a pitch. I just rolled in the chalk for a fucking 45 minutes. Oh, yeah. You got to wear it. You got to wear it.

Don't rub. Don't rub it. That's funny. Yeah, that's good. Yeah, boys, did you play Little League Baseball too? Oh, hell yeah. Everything, man. Everything sports related. It was like the backyard was like a sports complex. We would go up and get all the used equipment from Play It Again Sports and my dad would get like everything for like $20. Yeah, love it.

Get the equipment, put it in our hands, and let us have some fun with it, man. And so every day was getting home from school just so you could play sports, right? Exactly. The best. Yeah, yeah. It's all we know, man. It's all we know. Thanks to our sponsor, Audible. Let Audible expand your life by listening. Explore over 1 million audiobooks and exclusive Audible originals that inspire and motivate you all in one easy app. I do love Audible.

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Thank you to Mentos Gum for sponsoring today's episode. You ever notice how everyone's always reaching for gum when they're bored or need a pick-me-up? Talking to Exhibit A. Yes, I do understand that because I am always chewing gum. When you can't concentrate on a page anymore after studying for so long. Or when you're stuck in a back-to-back meetings and need...

to feel human again. We all need a little ways to refresh our daily routines and make them more fun. And that's where Mentos gum comes in. Sometimes it's as simple as popping in a piece of Mentos gum and taking a different route to work, trying a new lunch spot, trying a new workout class. Trav, what's your go-to Mentos gum flavor? You're just chewing on these days. Just the traditional, the, the, the old traditional one. Um, mint fresh, fresh,

Yeah, I like, I'll go wintergreen every now and then or spearmint, but for the most part, I'm just like a fresh mint kind of guy. Sometimes all you need is a little reminder to refresh the everyday and shake things up. Yes to fresh with Mentos gum.

Let's get to a little, a little, some more familiar questions here. In case you aren't aware, Jason and I are not professional interviewers. I don't even know how to be a professional outside of football. We're just two big fans with a lot of fucking questions for you, man. As football players, we got to leave with this. How many football guys come up to you and talk about the water boy, man? I hear Boucher a lot. Yeah. I'm very proud that I got to be Bobby Boucher. I have met, I've, I've,

Met a lot of great NFL fellas who have talked to me about Bobby and Bobby's mama and foosball. Just foosball. Just foosball, baby. Making sure mama don't find out I'm playing foosball, that kind of shit. Yes. Did you play growing up? I played Pop Warner until I was 12.

I played until 12. I was a quarterback. I was a quarterback in Pop Warner. I was playing baseball. And then I was a pitcher. And I was 11. And Ken Stillman, the coach of the team, came over and talked to my parents and said, maybe Adam could be a quarterback. And my mother was like, oh, Adam doesn't play football. And my father was like, let him play. Because my father played football, actually. He was a linebacker.

Oh, yeah. So then I got in there. I got on the team, played two years at Pop Warner, and it was amazing. So cool, man. So freaking cool. Did you play any other sports? Did you play football, baseball? Baseball was my favorite. Basketball, I always played. Every sport, when I was young, I was decent. Then everybody got big and way stronger than me, so I became less and less of, you didn't notice me. Like when I played Babe Ruth, baseball, baseball.

I went from being I was on the all star team in Little League to like, I think Adams on that team. I don't know. You know, I went from second or third to batting sixth and seventh and maybe deeper. The older I got, the worse I got.

But you're still on the courts, man. I was about to say. Yes. Your skills on the court are iconic because you're just a facilitator. You just see the court. You see things before they happen. You remind me of a guy like Patty Mahomes and how his game is on the court. Sweet behind the backer. That behind the backer. I have dreams of throwing that to you, buddy. Backdoor bounce passes. Oh, yeah. I'm all backdoor. That's all I ever talk to. Because when I play, I always play with young dudes.

And, and I always, if they're not moving, I always like whisper him. I go, you got to move, bro. You got to go back. You got to go. Let it go. I'll fake up. I just cut that. You got to move though for me. I ain't going to shoot. I got to get it to you. Just a natural leader, baby.

Yeah. I love it, man. It's so fun watching you in all those highlights, man. Oh, man, you guys must have been fun on a basketball court grabbing rebounds. Jason used to beat my ass, literally. One-on-one? I would win the game, but it would be a brutal ass beating. Oh, hell yeah. And I would just get thrown on the cement the entire time. I used to win until you hit puberty, I would whoop your ass. But then there was one day, it was the last time we ever got in a fist fight. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. He freaking is just driving the lane, and he's finally as tall as I am doing this stupid fucking hook shot. I had a mean hook shot. And I can't stop him to save my life. It was so buttery. It was so buttery. So I start fouling and just beating the crap out of him. But yeah, it's...

Yeah, I know. I can play defense. I can play some defense now. There's minimal offense being played. I'll set picks. I will pick and rebound all day long. That I see. That I know. That's cool as hell, man. Yeah, you boys on the court must have been scary for the whole neighborhood. You told us about how Happy Gilmore got – how did you create –

Creole Southern. So good. Like, where did the inspiration? I'm not sure if you heard us. We were literally like, I don't know how he didn't win more awards for this. This was ridiculously good. This is before I had seen Life is Beautiful and Roberto Benigni did a great job with that. He did very good. He stepped it up for that shit. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, no, I wasn't getting Oscars. I never thought of that stuff when I was doing Boucher, but I couldn't believe it. It was like we had this idea, a water boy gets picked on a lot. You know, a coach thinks he could be, you know, sees him throw a nasty hit and then says, maybe you should be on the team. That was kind of the idea. And we were like, let's make him from the South. Let's make him Cajun.

And then we just went from there, man. We just, I don't know how it happened. We just filled out a script like that. So good. So good. It probably felt right as it came together too. You're just like, man, this is coming together so smooth. Cause it's so, start to finish. That thing is perfect. Oh, dude. I mean, we were so excited writing that. Thank, thanks for all these compliments guys. Honestly, I love you. I appreciate it. But, but so I remember, uh,

With the water boy, we wanted that he had a very protective mama. And that, and that there was this movie, Carrie, it was a, a,

a terrifying movie. And, and it was an overprotective mom who didn't want her daughter to, to be around anything too, too heavy. And, and anyways, so we kind of wrote a mom like that, that's overprotective to Bobby. And so he had to sneak around and play his foosball. The breadth of which like you did SNL, uh,

The comedy era that you were a part of was just so strong. It almost makes it unfair for modern day comedy, man. Well, I mean, I watch these young guys now and they are incredible. I love so many young comedians. I really do. And the Saturday Night Live cast after ours,

In the beginning, when you first leave and you see the next cast, you're like, hey, what about us? We were this and that. But the older I got, I'd watch every cast. I'd be like, fuck, these guys are incredible. And the men and women on the show and the way they handled themselves, I was like, oh, shit, man. I wish I had another crack at that because I'd do better next time. I like these guys. Anyways, it was...

It was lucky. Lucky. Our era, we were all best friends. Me and my buddies, just like you guys are with your teammates. And now we get to watch the youth be funny. Do you have any, like, skit? What was your favorite sketch or the one that you think is, like, the most underrated skit?

from your time in SNL? I mean, honestly, fellas, you know, you guys both did the show. You guys were great. I saw you that fucking weekend. Right, Travis? When you came back, I was telling you how fucking great. I mean, you were so cool. Confident as fuck out there. Funny as shit. You guys, honestly, you guys remind me so much of my boys growing up. That's why when I saw you on the show, I was like, fuck, it would be like if my friend Dave Kinnair hosted the show. It was just kind of like,

cool fucking dudes who know everything, know comedy, know sports, know everything, know how to be decent to their families. I fucking loved watching you out there. Just channeling my inner Sandman and Farley, baby. There you go. Yes, yes. Oh, my God. You would have loved Farley.

He would have loved you guys, man. Farley was a fucking great football player, by the way. Heck yeah. Heck yeah. A little Marquette rugby too, baby. Exactly. And ready to fight, by the way. A couple of drinks and he was ready to go. He was ready to throw down. For sure. It was honestly kind of like when he had a couple in him, we were like, calm the fuck down, bro. Let's not do this. No one else can fight like you. Yeah.

So good, man. I like it as so's. Yes. That's one of my favorite ones, dude. Oh, you like it as jewels. That was good. That was this guy, Robert Smigel, who's one of the fucking greatest of all time. He's a great writer.

and a great performer. He plays Triumph, the dog, you know, the Anselma. Oh, yeah. Heck yeah. That dude, he wrote so many great skits. So cool. And he wrote the juice skit, and we got to walk around and go, you like it, didn't you? Yeah, you like it, huh? That's good. I get you.

You do it smoother than me, bud. It's so good, man. I forgot how to drop it in there. It's the best, man. How many times do you get quotes told to you, like, just like... I mean, it's got to be just not stopped. We get it a lot on the streets. On the streets of New York, they scream some shit at me. Does it get old? No, no. It's always fucking fun. It's always nice, like, shit when it comes at you that you... I was...

There are things brought up to me that I go, what the fuck is that? I have no idea what it is anymore. And then somebody would just remind me when you, you know, it's on your album, when you said this and this, and I go, fuck, I don't, I don't remember saying any of that shit. Actually last night, my daughter's watching a 51st dates and she's like, dad, come watch. I go, I don't need to watch me. And she's like, watch this. Look how sweet you are. I go, and then I told her, I go,

I got to be honest with you. I remember Drew saying all that stuff. I don't remember me even talking like it's like I look back at the shit. I mean, I don't even fucking remember seeing the scene. I'm like, oh, oh, we did that. I didn't remember that place. Have you been someone that like you, you like to watch everything that you have? I mean, I'm sure nowadays you're just you're so engulfed in you're in the edit and like directing it and everything. Right.

Yes, yes, yes. I've done that so long now that once we're done and the movie comes out, I kind of I probably don't watch it for a few years. If it's on TV, I'll see it for a minute. But that's usually it. We you stay with shit for like a year. You go, all right, I don't need to fucking see that anymore.

Yeah, I couldn't, I can't really watch anything that I do when it's being recorded. But I have so much goddamn fun doing stuff like SNL and just like the comedy stuff that I don't need to watch it. I was so fulfilled doing it. That energy, yeah. Yeah, the energy is just so fulfilling that I don't want to ruin it by critiquing myself. I know, I know, you definitely...

You can look at your shit after and go, oh, I thought I was better than that. What the fuck was I doing there? I got a lot of that. Believe me. I got shit from when I was young that my kids show me. I go, I don't want to know that fucking exists. Holy shit. That was insane.

I watched the monologue because that was a moment that I wanted to remember forever. And just being on that fucking stage was the cool... Being behind that door and being on that stage and being in that studio was just so iconic. And you fucking walked out like...

So relaxed, man. How about being behind that fucking door? Dude. And your heart's pounding through your chest like, holy shit, it's happening right now. And just don't you, Travis, don't fall down these fucking steps. Do not fall down these steps. You are alive, dude. You are alive. Your brother was there to help you, too. That was nice. I was about to say, you should have seen him in the first rehearsal. I was there the day before watching him kind of get ready. And he comes out that door.

And he like starts choking up. And I'm like, there's nobody here. This ain't live. Like, what are we choking up for? And he was saying exactly coming, like standing behind that door, seeing the signatures, all of that, like fully hit him. And it's just like such a moment. So totally. Jason's been beating my ass all my whole life. So I'm a crybaby anyways. I just, I get really, really, I'm engulfed. And then when I'm, when I'm in on something, I'm so fucking in on it.

And it just took it over, man. Yeah. It just took me over. Yeah. Get you teary eyed. I had some of that. I hosted the show again, like around six years ago. And same kind of feel. I'd walk around on a Thursday, two days before the fucking shit, the show. And then I was getting teary eyed and looking and so many memories and so many greats that have been there and musical acts and fucking, you know,

You just think of when you were a little kid and all the shit, all the joy that place has brought you. It's the best, man. Yeah, you're in there forever now. Both you guys got to kill on that shit. I love it, man. You more than anybody I've ever watched has like, it's not that you stayed the same. Like, I know you've evolved, but you've been so authentic in everything you've done. Like from SNL to the movies, the standup, the one that just came out.

Like between what you wear, the people involved in it, like it's all just so authentically. How have you, I don't know. Has this been like, how do you do that? Same way as you guys would do in your life. Same shit. You feel comfortable with certain people. Yeah. The same wavelength you're on. What makes you guys happy? What makes you click like you would with teammates or just fucking, you

you know, off season, the guys you hang out with, that's kind of like what I got with my buddies when we make the movies and we sit in a room and write the shit and you have a similar sensibility. So I guess that's why we all do it together. Were you a Belushi and Aykroyd? Yes. Like going into it, did you have like the guys where you were like, man, if I could just somehow be as funny as that guy? Well, I tell you, you never fucking think

you're as good as the cast before you. So like, yes, Belushi, Aykroyd. Aykroyd, I mean, he became like a guy that we hung out with. We got to hang. I loved him so much, but

And he treated us so great. So awesome. It's kind of like fucking Andy Reid. You have this respect for the fucking guy and what he's seen. And when he talks to you, you kind of go, yes, yes, yes, yes. You feel like you're getting knowledge all the time. And fucking the castmates before you, you feel the same shit. You're just like, whatever they say, there's no...

No reason for me to talk unless they asked me to talk. And that's about it. I know that feeling. Got that with Dana Carvey. Got that with all the guys, Dennis Miller, all the guys who were older than us. And Jan Hooks and Victoria Jackson and the whole cast that was –

There before us, John Loveless. We just fucking... Kevin Nealon. All those guys. Whatever they had to say, we were loving it. Just a sponge, man. Yes, exactly. Exactly. That's how you got to be. I'm a girl, Dad. My oldest is four. So I got a ways to go. Yes. One, do you have any advice? And two...

When should I... I mean, they've seen some of your stuff, but when should I really start exposing them to the Sandman? That's good, man. I think at that age, yeah, there's no rush. Okay. All right. No rush to get to me. I got some animated movies that I feel kind of comfortable telling somebody, yeah, maybe you can watch Hotel Transylvania or Leo or something like that. I go, yeah, you'll feel all right there. But I got to tell you...

I have fucking three-year-olds come up to me and talk about Billy Madison. You know, they do say, are you Billy Madison? I say, yes. They go, well, why do you not look like him anymore? I go, well, Billy Madison's been fucking eating. He's a little hungry lately. But it'll all happen. My own kids, I don't throw my stuff at them too quick. It just happens. They haven't seen a few of the filthy ones yet, and let's hope that they don't need to see that stuff.

Too good. Yeah, well, I actually saw you take the girls to the Taylor Swift premiere at the AMC theaters. That was, by the way, what a girl. What a girl. You know her, man. Best performer out here. Dude, she means so much to our house. Since the kids, I think I was shooting like grownups or That's My Boy or something in Massachusetts.

And we listened to, and the kids were little, and we were listening to Taylor Swift and listening to every song. It was one of the first times I,

that you listen to every song on the record. Like when I was a kid, I think the Beatles you did that with, maybe Elton John, where you do every tune. Oh, yeah. Start to finish. You know when we start to finish. It's not like three hits and you go, all right, let me skip. Fucking Taylor in our house, every tune, they knew every word. I loved listening to her in the car. I loved what she had to say every time.

message, every melody, just the production, how cool she was, what she meant to young girls, what she means to women, what she means to guys doing the right thing in life. Throughout the years, Saturday Night Live saw the kids there, took her time, hung out with them.

And then at her premiere for the movie, she talked to the kids and talked to them about their movie. You know, they did this Bob Mitzvah movie, and she talked about what she liked in it. And she just florists my family. So cool, man. Florism. Like I said, somebody asked me, who do you get nervous around? I said, I do get nervous around Taylor Swift because I don't want to fucking blow it from my kids and say something stupid. So I'm just like...

Shit, she means so much to my fucking house. I better say the right thing here. She was so grateful that you took the girls up there, man. It was an absolute blast. She's lifetime forever, along with the whole world. She just means so much. I appreciate that, brother. And you being together and you guys, I mean, when you guys first started dating, my God, it was my family like, yes! Look how good they are together! Look how good they are!

He's a gentleman. And she's having so much fun with it. Like, anytime Taylor's laughing with you, my whole fucking family is like high-fiving. So good, man. You got me sweating over here. We got to see that dog behind you, dude. Come here, baby.

Did you just say that dog's name is Bagel? Yeah, Bagel is. That's such a good name. That is such a good name. I've had a bunch of bulldogs over the years. I've had a meatball, matzo ball, pickles, and this is a babu, and here's a bagel. But bagels ignore me now. Come here, buddy. What the fuck? You want me to pick you up? Come here, buddy. Say hi. Oh, God. I'm so pumped to see you. There he is. Oh, yeah.

There he is. All right. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Georgia Bulldog. Yeah, he's been here. That's a good one right there. The Georgia Bulldog. I don't know how he can handle that heat. Yeah, dude. They don't like the heat, man. I know. Every time he's out there, my good Lord. He is not in his element right now. They get the ice out for him. They do the right thing. There we go. Thank you to our sponsor, Accelerator.

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You worked with a lot of athletes in the past. You worked with Shaq, Michael Irvin, Kevin Garnett recently, and Anthony Edwards recently. All great. Do you feel like there's like an avenue of athletes being comfortable on the screen? Well, you guys. Has anybody bombed it, basically, is what I'm asking. Oh, no. No. I mean, I'm sure. No names. No names. No, I don't got anybody who I.

Who left it, I went, oh, what happened there, man? None of that shit, man. I love them all. They all come and have fun. We make sure...

Whoever's doing... You guys are, like, doing us favors. I know. I know you got a busy life, and you're coming and you're going to make my fucking movie a thousand times better. So we try to make sure anybody who comes by has a great time. It's a memorable time, and try to get them in and out as quick as possible. Don't want anybody sitting and being bored. But, no, I've got to meet so many greats over there. You guys...

You grew up, I think there's some sort of connection to how fucking confident you are. And comedy, when you're being funny, it's usually if you're confident in what you're saying and committing to something. So if you ask an athlete, it's probably going to be a little bit better if you say it like this and, you know, be strong when you say it. Yes, sir. Let's go. You're coachable. Coachable.

You guys are coachable. Yeah. There you go. I was about to say, got to be coachable in life, baby. You certainly do. How do you decide to make the jump from comedy guy to like more of like the dramatic stuff throughout your career? That was just a lot. Was it just like a challenge that you wanted to do or was it like? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It is that. It's like that now. When I was younger.

I did a movie a long time ago called Punch Drunk Love. And that was just luck. Luck. I was doing my comedies. Paul Thomas Anderson, who's this amazing guy and amazing director. He wrote this movie for me and said, give it a shot. He believed in me. So I did it. Nice. Had a few of those where I work with these elite directors and kind of do my best for them. And it's different than what I do. I...

you know, like water boy and shit like that. We, we have fun writing that shit and doing that shit. And it's the best time we could ever have. But when it comes to serious stuff, I just don't want to let down this. Just like you guys don't want to let down the coach. I don't want to let down the director. So I fucking just commit as hard as I can. Heck yeah. Accountability, baby. Exactly. Yeah. So we, we got to jump into your, we always do a Mount Rushmore of, of like Jason did Mount,

Mount Rushmore of... Centers. I did Mount Rushmore of Titans. Yes. Who is your Mount Rushmore of... Well, it says characters on here. Of your characters. Of my own shit. Yeah, who is the Mount Rushmore of your characters, you think? Shit, I never thought about this. It kind of changes what...

I love some of them one day and then the next day I'm like, why the fuck did I do that? But all right, let's see. Billy Madison's always got to be up there because it was kind of the first movie that let me kind of have a little control. Me and my buddies and Tamara Davis was the director. We were young and we believed in it. So we got that done. I love Bobby Boucher.

Ah, shit, man. And I love being that guy. I love doing movies with Drew Barrymore and with Jennifer Aniston. So that was just, I can't pick. I don't know what my guys' names are in those, but whoever I was in those right now, I guess...

Yeah. I don't remember at all. I know Robbie Hart was one of them. But I love making that. Whatever I did with those guys, I'd like to put up there. All right. I'm with you. And I don't mind putting Little Nicky up there, too. Dude! There you go. There you go. One of my sneaky favorites of yours, brother. Seriously. Yeah. It gets better. Another one where you just engulfed. You just brought us all in with this. Yeah. Yeah.

It's so good, man. The sideways bass. Oh, man. I remember Nicholson. I met Jack Nicholson before we did our movie together. And he said, now, before we start this, what type of movie is it? Is it Little Nicky? And he goes, hey. And I got to go, hey.

Oh, Nikki just did it. Nikki to me. That felt nice. That's so cool, man. Yeah, that was cool. Well, I'll tell you what, that's probably the most epic Mount Rushmore I've ever fucking heard. Oh, yeah. I love that. That's not ugly, dude. Little Nikki up there was so cool. This isn't on this. This isn't on the run-down, but I want to know, who's your Mount Rushmore comedians? Like, on your list. Well,

my guys, when I was young, I love, I love so many now I got, it's all, it's, it's much broader than it was, but as a kid, what fucking connected me the most, Rodney Dangerfield was my, that was my number one. Oh,

Love Ronnie. Love Caddy Shacks. Love Back to School. Back to School. Yeah, baby. The best. The best. And I got to meet him and hang with him. Fucking loved him. So cool. And shit, when I was young, I loved the Jerry Lewis, the Abner Costello, the Marx Brothers. I loved that stuff because I would watch that with my parents. Had a great time with that. Then I loved...

you know, Belushi and Aykroyd was, was power in my house. Eddie Murphy, Eddie Murphy. That was kind of it too. Eddie fucking standups, you know, Steven Wright was a big deal to me. Cheech and Chong fucking love. Yeah, baby. Love.

Yeah, yeah. I had a million of them. Actually, the special one, the last song, I tried to throw a lot of the people who meant something to me in there. I miss this stuff. There's this comedy record, Derek and Clive. You guys ever hear of them? It was Dudley Moore who played Arthur. You remember the movie Arthur? The English guy who drank a lot of booze, funny as shit. He was in a comedy show.

with this guy, Peter Cook. And he had these albums that they used to curse a lot. They'd get drunk together and be funny together. And somehow my father got it for me. And I was in like fucking sixth, seventh grade listening to that going, oh my God, this is the best. So they had a big influence on my cursing, I believe. Yeah.

We're football podcasts. We got to get into a little bit of your, your QB. You already told everybody that you were kind of a, a pop Warner QB, but the longest yard, man. Yes. Um, how much like prep in the NFL where do, were you just out there winging it, knowing that you still had the skillset or was, did you actually, you take some pointers from some guys? I was scared, man. I was, by the way, uh,

Fellas, when I was a QB, I dropped so many snaps. I used to. I got my coach. You should go. Would you get your hands in there? I was so there. I didn't get in there. I was a center. You got to feel the pressure. You got to feel the pressure. I apologize to you and everything.

Everybody before you, Jim Otto, everybody. I made a mistake. I felt so bad getting my hand on that cup. But I got my hands in there deep, man. It always worked out. Sean Salisbury was nice enough. A great guy. He fucking...

Every day would throw the ball with me, taught me how to throw it a little farther, how to be a little more confident with it. Because when I was Pop Warner, it would be like straight T-26 on break, on set. Straight T-26, all right, ready, break. Then I'd get out there, my little baby voice, I would throw that quarterback thing. Break!

I never do that bullshit. I was bullshit when I did it. I never sounded cool. But I remember Salisbury would always yell at me like, you got to command that team. Get out there and fucking be a man about this. This is so fucking good. Sorry, Bagel. So good, Ash. In 97, you wrote a song called The Lonesome Kicker. Yes. Loved it. Would you ever write a song about any other positions or has that come up in your mind? Any other sport?

uh like that or what man shit yeah i mean i if something fresh comes up for sure man but we did we did fucking have the best time nfl films helped make a video with us we we i i got to hang out with a bunch of steelers cordell stewart the the bus yeah they were all in the video we hung out there uh

I've had a lot of dreams come true, but I met a lot of you dudes, and I love you all. You're the best, dude. Thank you. Well, let's get to some No Dumb Questions with the Sandman himself. I'm ready. The segment is called No Dumb Questions because there's no such thing as dumb questions, Adam. Just dumbass people like me and Jason. Would you mind helping out with just one, baby? Please make me a part of it. Let's do this. All right, from...

Hey, Buck Nasty, whatever that may mean. Out of all the movies that The Sandman is dropping, we still want to know what's happening in Bobby Boucher and Vicky Vallecourt's life. Did Bobby ever make it to the NFL? Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, first of all, the good news is Bobby saw Vicky's boobies, and he liked them. Ooh.

Loved him, actually. Loved him. He said like, but in that moment, he loved him. He loved him. And thank you very much, Ricky Valicor, for that. He did go to the NFL, I believe. Played a couple of years. Mama was just...

Mama wanted him home. So he had two good years running around with the teams, you know, saw some shit he probably shouldn't have seen. Things got a little crazy on occasion for Bobby, especially when they'd go to Vegas. And then he made himself back to Mama and just fucking, you know, it's better off...

It's a beautiful story. Yeah. It's a beautiful story. We had to at least figure out what happened. Yeah. Yeah. And that, that, that wraps it up with no dumb questions today, man. Honestly,

Adam, we can't thank you enough for jumping on with this, brother. You are the goat of the comedy that we grew up on, and I can't thank you enough, man. You shot me the text after SNL, and it was like the full life circle moment of seeing, just feeling like I'm a part of something as cool as the Sandman. So I appreciate you even jumping on, having some fun down memory lane with us and

Everybody make sure you check out the Netflix special he's got coming out, man. Appreciate that. And, boys, on your end, on your end, both of you, so fucking happy for everything you guys got. All you've done, congratulations, Jason. I know you're going to have a great time announcing and doing a new start. You kicked so much ass. The fucking speech you gave when you guys won was unbelievable. Unbelievable.

The funniest. The best. The best. Everyone loves you. And Travis, so fucking great watching you dominate out there and just bulldoze and soft hands and just a stud. Always in the right spot. I don't know how the fuck you get so open. Or when you're not open, it doesn't matter. He's going to get it to you. You'll make sure to have both you guys.

And by the way, Jason, you know the cross-eyed guy in all my movies? Yes. He's in the special. He's in the coffee. The biggest fucking Eagles fan loves you. Loves you. And when you guys fucking won, holy shit was there relief around. That fucking guy's depression. Every time the Eagles wouldn't win on a Sunday, I'd be like, will you fucking wake up? You've been sleeping for fucking 20 hours. It's over.

We're on to next week. But you winning the Super Bowl was the greatest, buddy. He loves you. We all love you. Both of you. And your family. Say hi to your parents and say hi to both your families. And Taylor, tell them we love you too. You know that. You're the best, dude. The absolute best. We won't take any more of your time, man. The Sandman, ladies and gentlemen. Right on, boys. We'll keep this computer on. Don't worry. Oh, you're the man, dude. Okay, peace. We can't thank you enough for the time. We'll see you in a few weeks, brother.

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