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Ladies and gentleman, boys and girls, welcome back to new heights. The jokes on show, present by wave sports and entertainment, and brought you by our friends able. That's cin on the light.

How about that? We are your host. Some travel's kell sy is my big bro jin Kelsey at a cleveland heights, ohio, that northeast ohio baby.

Also since nineteen, bar can alem followed the show, and all social media platforms at new high showed to forget to hit the subscribe burden on youtube and wherever you find your podcast. This is an absolutely incredibly special show for the fans. A Jason willing, you tell him why? yeah. I mean.

we've talked about having both of these individuals on all season. We've had tons of requests from our fan base to have both of these two on and enlighten the current situation in which travels, and I would be playing against each other in this upcoming super bowl. IT appears that the entire country might want to hear from these. That leads us to our first guess, which is, first of all, the maker of the best dinner roles of all time, and everyone knows her as the first mom with two sons playing each other in the super bowl. Ladies and gentlemen, I presents you, our mother, the lovely dana Kelsey.

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妈妈， thank you for joining us. Mom, how you do awesome.

get awesome.

All right. Well, we're going to start with a segment that we do every show. I'm sure you've heit now. Do you listen our show?

absolutely.

That's not. We're got to clean IT to clean up.

Sorry, got bad vocabulary. We've got to clean IT up. We got a Better way, Better.

Hey, you learn different from me.

Well.

we're going to start your site, mom. Don't you tell anybody that we're .

going to start with the first segment that we start with all the time, which is new, new? Yes, yes.

I don't.

New news, we are still the number one sports podcast in the world, were actually the number one podcast on apple. We're starting to do some amazing things. Thanks to you guys.

all of us.

Thank you guys and listeners. This show is taken off. IT might be boosted in a little bit about the super bowl, but let me tell, it's been great all year long, and we can't thank the support enough. The first thing we're going to get to with new news is the redit page. We ask you guys on the last episode to get the shows right page going because IT is buns, unfortunately did too good of a job.

We now have.

I don't know. We now have new heights podcast and our new heights. So we will leave IT up to you guys.

But let's pick a name emerge, these two, please. Do we have a preference? Do you like sub read IT? Mom, do you know what read IT is? Yeah, right. Do you like submit new heights podcast or separate IT new heights more.

I like the second one.

New heights more, just new heights. I like new heights more to because it's not just a podcast that we also have the youtube deal we show. It's become A A thing outside of just podcast.

So I like new heights, right? That said is that I mean, this the fans disagree. I mean, he is .

ultimately up to the fans in speaking .

to the fans. We're going to talk about the fan base names.

I mean, we are going to figure this thing out. We've we've been juggling for about a year.

We're going to get mob's opinion here and then we're going through to a vote. I think mom is got great intuition. Obviously, mom, we've been trying to figure out what the fans, what to call the fans of new heights are you like? We have an insane amount of emails, and I think these seem to be the final less. We have a ninety two percenters. B the hooligans see the newbies.

the newby .

or four. And this is thanks to travel a descrying, a public official. We have, I don't know this a word, but the gibran is. What do you think abc or d which wants your favorite?

I kind of like d you like .

to Jones oni thing.

Yeah.

you you're in support of trade shaming of public officials. Al.

now we're all kinds silly. You have to go and look what the urban dictionary says about gibran. I, and what IT is.

What what is jebra? Ee.

because I did jobrani place and gentleman sons.

What is juba is? What is the it's .

basically a fool. So it's .

cool that .

things that fits really well actually, if that's the actual definition of gibony, um we are definitely to the bronze. That fits too well.

All right. Well.

there's mom's PICC travel. You're pig man.

There's just something about the ninety two percent just just making this thing up as we go and kind of be in right on point. You don't mean, yeah, I feel like that is kind of like how all this really began know yeah yeah I agree.

I think the ninety two percenters kind of fits with the show is just kind of fly by the city, your pants having fun making stuff up. That's that's right enough. It's close enough, right.

But in lieu of moms definition of the jobrani, if jobrani does actually mean essentially just fools, um I think that's a pretty good one for the shows too. So I think both of those are probably my two front runners. But as always, IT does really matter what we think, because we're going to .

take this true of them to the people.

Men, yeah, what? We are part of the democracy. There were americans.

We're all the americans. Well, not everybody listening. There's actually quite a few international.

This is now in you guys yeah, tune.

Well, we're going to take this to the democratic process and take you to a vote, and we're going to get to the bottom. Finally, as to what we were referred to, the fans of new heights, to the polls, to the pogo.

Very good.

right? Mom.

it's time you .

is here. OK, i've been waiting to get you for years.

Okay, right? Mom, time to get to what everybody's been waiting for you. And this isn't a real interview. This is just a mom talking to her two sons about playing in the biggest game ever. We don't really know how to conduct interviews. You go you do have a broadcasting degree so you could probably do a Better job conduct in the interview. Um so well, let's let's .

start right there. Mom, you do have a broadcast degree. You have coaching points for travis and I are on the show.

Not really. You guys who do in a fantastic .

job really knew that he thought he taught us, taught us everything we needed to know already. But yeah, this is just a talking and having a conversation. We're going we're going going to some fun stuff.

But first, the first segment that we want to get into super questions that we have to ask um how's the last week been for? You have been on the today show. You've bounced around you the up and downs of sunday, really just the up and downs of my game because Jason had walk in the park. How's the last weekend for .

you a man? It's been so exciting. I mean, you know not to mention just having two games you know on the same day that means so much even to both of you IT was just absolutely crazy. So um just nuts and trying to get from the link to a bar to see you and make sure that we saw jesson's ceremony. You know that was a hard part two so um but thanks to philadelphy police said worked out really well.

Philly police going to love him guy.

I bless them.

Did you? Did you go down on the field for the jesson's game?

No, no, I didn't have .

credentials. You.

there's only so many people that are a lot on the field.

That's what they say until mom kills, is there? No, there's no way they're denying you the field .

mom travel you complain enough until they give you more credentials. And I just I don't have the energy .

yeah I don't have to go plain. I just have to go to the this go to the people. The credential like controllers are just because I hate my mom started get down. Can I get a control for my mother of, of course well.

here's the thing I could.

But you do that, you that you do that beforetime. You don't do IT in the middle the thing when you're up on the stage.

you right, you right? Honestly, nobody, nobody that was at my game came out on the field because I didn't give out any good. So you guys got me red handed. I D, really, I don't do this.

Well, here's a problem. We only had a small amount of time. The n fell in their infinite wisdom, decided to put both games back to back. So we literally there was no time we were lucky enough that we could see a ceremony and or the back of the ceremony he was face in the other way. But it's just IT was just one of those things is just we wouldn't be able to stay anyway.

That's all good. He was adorable. Sea and Jason on the field with the girls. Anyways.

absolutely. That was a good thing. That was just so cute.

Were you rooting for this paci c scenario to happen? We're both travels and I won.

Absolutely yes, yes, absolutely. I wanted boat you guys to to get into the super bowl.

And you wanted to see one of us lose a super bowl.

I get IT what you know, basically what IT is, is I really one is just peer joy, the first two super balls ones that you were in IT was like tense. We wanted you to win so badly that meant so much to get that one onto your bell. This one is just going to be your joy, pure fun.

You know we don't. It's just going to be your both in there. How can you get any Better than this is going to be the best the best day ever ah except for when you were born, both guys were .

born that mom for you, one of the worst days for .

travel. Well, I I got probably make the day lot go Better a lot more than and just, you know being in the game, you know um maybe you touch downs, maybe I win. That be pretty sweet. What do you think, Jason.

if you want.

that would not be sweet. That would be terrible. No, yeah, no, I hope you don't win. Of course, mom, you said you're rooting for, you said you're rooting for offences.

Yeah, I am going to be screaming the entire game. Whoever has the ball, I wanted to be the high screen super bowl ever in the history of super balls.

make you still who you actually waiting for.

I'm looking for the office. I can, I can.

You can say that. Is that a half an answer committed? I can't, do you?

I sorry. I'm going to have both jerseys, have jerseys on. I'm ruined for both.

Was going to be very upset with your answer.

Tell him that i'm fifty percent with you guys. Yes.

fifty, fifty, fifty. Are you going to be rocking the fifty, fifty Kelsey jersey? What I got you, that I got you, that Jason didn't get you, that I got you.

that he was really upset the first time we all play and you guys play each other, because I was coming at adam and the eighty seven on the front. And so I to turn you on our real quick, as I could tell, he was .

pissed.

I .

have.

就 what。 You know what was really sweet though, shero, bossa, nick and a mother, SHE texted me and he was just so sweet and he said, the mom of two nfl players, I just wanna wish you the best and so i'm sure that wasn't true because her son was playing against my son, but IT was so he .

did I know he did.

I know he did .

your number it's like .

this a this a some .

committee of a mother .

is A N fell mother. Union.

know what? He saw me tweet my jersey um and so SHE um for the um I I don't .

know .

what I all I know is he said this is shero sa and we just chat IT .

they're also IT was her picture so somebody could have .

photoshopped .

APP but who knows .

but no I think IT was .

really her .

because he came back to me the other day and just a good luck and so IT was sweet got to control time.

We got to go .

back to the room okay, yeah, get to back. You've said in the past to both of us that you root for me because i've given you grandkids. I've always known that you look for travis. Who do you actually look?

Okay, I don't.

Cause let's put in this way, let's put in this way, let's put in this way. And this one, you have the luxury of rooting for offences in a battle to the death metal stress. Who are you rooting for?

Okay, if you have a battle, you are, if you were on a boat and you are in the middle, the ocean, who would you save me or your father?

Who would I? I would say you, that's easy. I would save you in a hearty yeah there's no question on that.

Who would you save trip? I was, you know what dynamic um I mean, mom, but i'm feeling Better for dad.

go. Of course I feel bad form. I don't want bad to die, but I have to make a choice.

It's not it's in these steps of scenario. You have to make a decision. You don't quick enough.

You're gonna SE both of them if you don't have the choice. Hi mom, answer the question. Who you're saving life or death?

Life or death? I do, I can.

I can remember that .

i'm not to say, I remember .

you choose me. If you choose me, just know that both wet and elliot will grow up without a father.

I got to to start breathing. I gotta start breeding, please. The breeds out there, do you fly?

Find the right person.

I'm a fine, a breeder, and i'm going to get kids so that mom can love me again.

I love you. I IT doesn't say that. Okay, never mind.

Tell me who you're talking to after the game first. Are you going to stay for the parade? Are you're going to go down on the field? The matter who wins and congratulated the winner? You can find the loser in that.

I I will be on the field for you. Travis h. Jason will have his family on the field. So no, I will be on the field for jasie.

how? Why you're .

rooting .

for travel? Didn't IT Jason?

Oh my goodness.

You know why? Because I go the extra mile to get mom credentials. You say about three yeah, now nobody else.

You out. You're cool. You're cool. You got SHE was trying .

to get to your game travel. That's the only reason in A, I knew that we were being chased.

T.

V. What else we got? Did you know, mom, that there is a petition going out um trying to get you to be the andary coin flip? Yes, for the start of the super bow. Yeah, to do that means you will come. Mom, have you ever coin flipped?

No.

that's my big that's my big concern. Ously is I just don't know. Have you ever? Can you once the less you've never .

done IT ever? Yeah, I have. But here's the thing. There are so many legends and people that have that have their blood switchers on the field. And for a mom, it's never played football. I don't think that's a replace for her to be.

I think you're discount mom.

Mom, right?

Well, here's here's I don't know if I would be a distraction. Would I be a distraction out there for you? For you guys, that's what I would worry about because you've always told me since you were little, don't you ever come on on the field? I hear a few of a broken flat. Or what is that? Don't you come run out there?

I do remember that. I do remember .

that ah you why don't you come out there? Yes, yes.

The only thing I remember from growing up with very vividly was when I was wearing a cup in hockey, and IT was rubbing me really bad. So I took IT out in the middle, the game and through to you in the stands because he doesn't do their cup .

to their mom yeah like.

Ladies and gentlemen, i'm talking about mid plate that pock is in play and Jason is going down the hockey pants scream and hawks IT like a grenade over the world. yes. yeah.

And my mom's on the receiving .

and just catching IT. Oh, my got you know I did cat IT.

but here's you were um you immediately were rejected from the game, not injected from the game, but you to get off the ice because you have another cup to be on the ice so they made you get off and go back in. But the yes but the problem is.

is that you remember yeah .

don't don't you .

remember that .

I think .

I got rejected .

IT because .

I probably .

like hit a kid in the head or something.

Now that was .

the second, that was the second one. The first one was the cup. That was the first personal file. The second personal file was because you probably cross checked .

kid in the child, let's go back to the coin flip you get to, if amErica voted on IT, would you flip the corn? Yes or no?

I would. If the two, you say that.

that would not .

be a distraction to you.

that you'll be missing. And i'm an expert.

so I call him up. You have his phone number.

No, I know.

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What's the dona Kelsey story? where? Let let's go. We got move pretty quick because I can be here too long but where where did you go up? You grandpa mom grew up um in the excited well really the inner city cleveland .

um you know right downtown small house grandparents live upstairs done and I were downstairs we shared a bedroom and that was a small too big room apartment and uh we grew up there until you we were four and they moved out to the birds. Uh I really force grade sorry. And then we moved out to the burbs and my mother was very, very ill.

Um the doctor said that maybe you know putting her into a different um environment might help a little bit, but SHE uh pass. So my brother and I A lost her mother when I was about, I think I was twelve and he was ten, so anyway, but you know, things, things happened. You very wonderful.

married a wonderful .

human being. They married block and SHE raised both down and I, and by the Grace of god, if we didn't have her, I don't think we would have made IT through a soul. She's just a lovely lady where he was with us but she's not in IT was just a IT was just IT was awesome and I feel so fortunate that I was raised by her so .

was very cool. After after high school you went on to college and an education. Will you the first person to graduate from college out like the grapes to college?

No, he was there for one year and oh you but um he married my mother. Yeah he did for one but he married my mom. And so they you know, just what actual line and stuff like that.

Do you think that one of the things that motivated due to go to college was grandma mary coming into the picture of grandma murr because he was an education?

absolutely. And he talked my dad into IT because he was very much showing his sticks so he thought that I should go to you like secretary school or something like that. This was typical .

second .

yeah yeah. So anyway, he just basically um said she's not smart enough to go to school and my mom says, well, how are you gonna catch me?

Did he know little daily?

He said me to go get married. That's what he did so .

so let's get back to this. Well, I guess it'll lead into grampa being shop istc k again. But yeah you so you are an excEllent athlete growing up uncle down your brother who played football at perdue our uncle ah was extremely a talented athlete himself always says that you would be able to beat him in a race and how there's legions of dona Kelsey athleticism i'm not making this up for multiple people um what did you play sports growing up? We are do you know the .

answer but we're just well yeah was before title nine. So we really didn't have the infrastructure for women like through us today. But I did my father didn't want me being on the um track team so I snuck away. And when on my .

own banker, this reading you're flanking from .

travis yeah so I also .

where I get the the ability to not listen to my .

dad not listening in flaking .

yeah but don't say no, I win ahead and I went to mr. Sites and he did the tracking during the summer. And I joined the junior olympics. And I want several medals for hi jumping. And I was in the fact the surprising thing was the actual olympics in clever were being held in climbing heights at the high school.

So you, so that .

was you one of those running at heights?

yeah. And I I was unchanged, you know? So wow. Ww.

the ground work on the height, field force .

for the go.

So grappa was not in favor of playing sports is all going to college, but despite your own father not supporting you, you wouldn't did IT anyways.

yeah. And that was a lot because of what grammar mr kind of fuel you with, right? Yeah.

because government a, please fill hockey in college, right?

He did. He did. He was also an athlete. And like that, what I it's just, you know, he's supported me once I actually got to college. He paid for my education so I can't you know, he warmed up to IT .

and wasn't there the proved.

yeah, he was okay. He just had preconceived notions. Sometimes you have to prove .

people wrong.

right, guys? 妈妈。

right now.

So you went to college four years. Oh, you right? yes. And you obviously got a communications.

Agree, I did. yeah.

But despite that, you don't have communications. You went into lustrously long career in banking.

Yeah, he was weird. I had to go back to school, get my masters, because I didn't have all the mere skills and accounting skills and things like that. So I went to B, W, and and got that.

But then I was okay to be a bank in IT. Worked out working commercial state. Chee, thirty years I started out master card, went to uh foreign um international um and then ended up in low income housing tax credit, which is will make people's eyes roll up in their head.

But anyway, it's basically every bank needs to support the community. And so h that's what I did. I built how sing for the less fortunate. So, yeah.

so, so, so long going into banking. You met dad.

Yeah.

how? How did you? And dad, meat.

how do you know that? I really don't even know this. Mom, breaking.

how do we not know this?

好。 Okay, we were at vegans. Yeah, there's a bar. And in the flat they are far in .

the fencing out of things. So do they sell purch?

Yeah.

so that did take me there once. chips. Okay.

so, so, so we we just happened to meet there. He came up to me with the illustrious, uh, I guess pick up line was, did you say joe and stop IT stop .

and I said, no and he said.

all I thought you said, joe I said, is your name joe and you won't know it's i'm like.

but that's .

OK that's okay. We had up chatting. The halls were there. I think brows and even cc was there. So everybody was having fun after work.

I was supposed to go out with a guy that night, and we were supposed to go to a play. And I never made IT your dad. I talked forever.

did you, that .

sometimes .

it's sex the same man.

IT was meant to be. IT was meant to be just the way I was.

Yeah, no bounce back. Held, be sure, is doing just fine. Yeah, probably never took another girl play.

though he was a good play too. I really want to see IT. I think with chicago, I think .

you're something like chicago. We've we've talked about this growing up and clever heights and all the broken windows and the floors that we went through and all the holes in the wall. And yeah.

by the by the way, yeah, I have one question for you who actually jumped over the couch and land in on IT so that the feet of the couch went through our hardwood floors oh yeah.

that wasn't anyone jumping, mom. That was a power bomb of the century.

Yeah into around into .

the cell in and the self a went through the floor. That's how powerful IT was that was Jason throwing me around. Like a ragdoll yeah we just kind of slid that thing over. Maybe you never knew about IT. Yeah.

I know. But we ve found IT before we sold the house but you we fixed IT. But i'm curious why or how did we never break the television with as many times as you were throwing a across ball across the living room? How did IT never break?

That was the one thing that we cared the most about in our tiny little at that point was the TV. We going to break the TV.

What would we do all there? But still you were still throwing balls, throwing all kinds of stuff.

But we make sure .

to steer clear that we knew that the entertainment that .

was what had the same by the bell and and who wants to be a millionaire, and all the other stuff that we were watching at the time, you, we can break that thing. Yeah.

sure. fancy. You are watching fancy night.

A good one. I haven't met the fine big cds .

city fan. Now I en, i've seen .

him where in kansas city, chief s. jersey.

Home play for the S, B, A ship.

I'm no argument that the picture that I just got, a pad, a whole plane for the raters, was fuck in disgusting trace. No.

never say that ever again. We had flash forward. You meet that marum enough to go down.

All that. Nobody cares about that. Yes, what was that? how? Yeah, I know what us to come into the picture. How do that?

Because about five years, five years later, we were trying to have kids. IT wasn't working for whatever reason. And I went in and a one day he just told me, he says, you're going to have a little one and I went, wow.

so I knew you were a mistake. I knew you were a mistake.

You just said.

That time for me, you was just guy.

let's be honest. Set the registry. How disappoint were you? When have was was an out as a boy?

No, no, no. I was your girl. And yes, I was been for girl, but I got one. He's a fashion easter.

I see, I see where this is going on youtube.

I see what this is going .

on youtube. A lot of, I see.

No, no, no.

no. Just teasing. Say, was IT Tracy?

No, no.

And I have .

a little thing. Remember you guys were saying that I name him after the fat kid on overboard?

yes. Well, that's I thought you name is okay.

There was another travis A A sop Opera at during the day. And that was, and I would just had thought he was the most gorgeous man in the whole world. And I named you after him.

So you told us a time out. So you told dad that you like the main travis off of a fat little kid from overboard. But secretly you had a man crush going on.

yeah. And that's sure you named him after. So terrible, how could you do that? Well, i'm just.

Speaking of dad, okay, so let's so you both raised us. Yeah, you were married. How long we get married?

Twenty three? Twenty four years, like twenty?

You eventually ended up divorcing about what .

maybe ten years ago.

You just.

so what? Why do you hate him?

I don't hate .

him with references .

to this day.

That was a great way. IT.

yeah. Now, friends, is what .

we get .

lunch IT. Just sometimes people, you know, they move apart that all.

so you don't regret marry him?

No, no, never because I got you too. I wouldn't be here, you know, I wouldn't be on the show that wasn't for that. So now week, we both were like a tag team with you too, and did all kinds of fun things.

When one of you to go out of town, another person would health the other child. So IT was perfect. IT was just, you got to do whatever sports you wanted, you ve got to go and all the tournament, you ve got to do everything. And IT worked out if there would have been another kid, somebody was gonna SE out. So we just happened to work out for the best.

Well, thank you. Yes, thank you. Thank you to make a mistake with Jason so that I could .

be here and I didn't mistakes I don't make yeah well.

course and turned out not to shame there.

Are you go move IT .

on to nfl parents? When did you feel like the nfl might really like that might be actual reality for us? Like when did you kind of put IT together? Was that in high school, college? Or where you kind of a just sit near on draft day like don't know this .

actually going to happen. Well, Jason was the first one and I know that, that was very we were all hoping so desperately that he was going to get drafted and you know the uh first round, the sec around the third round and went on for days and IT just was one of those things that we didn't know that was gonna en. But I knew you guys were talented.

I knew you had the perseverance. I knew that you um would be able to its just you don't know how your children relay nationally. You know that they might be the best kid in your city, they might be the most talented, their athletic kid and the college team.

But you don't know how that is across the country. And there's a lot of kids that are just as talented as you are sitting on the bench at alabama, ohio state. They never get a shut. So in just IT worked out that you know all everything, a line just perfectly and how you were able to play, get on the field, show your talents and show what what the passion you have for sports.

Yeah I mean, well, let's so speaking of kids playing, do you have any advice for other parents listening? We are raising their king kids and also have dreams of playing the end. What advice .

would you give those? this? what?

okay. The advice that I would give is tell your children that no matter what anyone says, always believing yourself. Number two, keep added, go up to teachers, not the parent.

The child has to do this. What do I have to do to get more playing time? What do I need to work on? The parent cannot do that.

They cannot be the ones that on the coaches, you know, bx, all the time, it's got to become from the kid. The kid has to want IT. He has to get up enough couch to go ask, this is what I want to do. That's what I wanted do. And that's kinds what we try doing still with the true of you that if you know if we were at a practice, go up go practice with those guys, you know tell the coach I want to play more, I want to get Better um that we were dead.

We were definitely more curious than than a lot of the kids growing up. But I think we both commend you you in pops because all of our at least all of my head coaches and coaches on every single sports team that I had is especially all the travel leagues and all the community leagues.

They all said how much they love you and dad for never complaining to them about playing time or why we're not getting you know certain looks or certain opportunities. You guys can just let us go out there and have fun. And our curiosity and our drive to have that fun on whatever playing field that was because we'd love playing every single sport growing up that, that is at the end of the day, we drove us to where we are today for share. And you feel yeah .

yeah for sure. And you just you know you just have to but whatever IT is, whether its sports or music or um art, whatever your child wants to do, they've got to love IT. And if they're not doing what they absolutely love to do, it's not good to push him into something that they .

just got to love this shit. Man, you have to love this. Should did you ever think about steering us in a different direction, like away from football? Like did you ever see like jay didn't doing something non sport related, like playing sax iphone to be like, do that your ticket?

No, I you know I just supported what you came to me and said you wanted to do. I we try to make sure that you had that opportunity. There are sometimes we couldn't. I don't know whether where's both of you or just one of you said you wanted to go to canada and be a hockey player and and i'm like, i'm not that somebody else raise my kids. I'm sorry.

That would be that would that would be me. That was I was an a tournament in niagara falls in eighth grade and dad um got approached by A I don't know he was a scout is probably a scoured from junior leagues up in canada, just checking out a talent in this tournament that that we were playing and we were playing the highest level at that time. We were playing kind of like community lead hockey, double a hockey.

There was triple a and then there was, I think, one more division that was like kind of like more a more talent than than what was in our league. But um yeah they said that the traditional way of trying to get to the N H. L is in high school.

You go and played. June nears in canada. And i'd looked the deals like they think I have a chance, like I could.

I could go to the like. IT was like the coolest day of my life. Like could they see? They see something in me? I could go be an chill guy.

And dad looked to me. He said, you you think that you're going to go to school OK, you can even go to school america. You think you're gonna listen to some other family tell you to go to school and .

yeah there's no way and you're .

you're right i'll just yeah and you're luck.

You won't went to quebec and you won't had a speech. French.

you start down. We all know friends wasn't .

my 4 right？ no.

What do you think we would be doing if we weren't playing in the both of us?

Uh, you would be. I'm trying to think of something why I do remember the first time you came to me, Jason, when you were squirt in hockey. I know a lot of these stories are hockey, but that's a lot of hours on the ice. And you came to me, and I was the first time you got to hit people and you said, mom, you were so excited. I finally found out what i'm good at.

I been searching a lot of all.

searching as a great. But really, i'll tell you, I think you is in your mindset, whatever you put your mind to. And I think you've proved that this year, as in previous shares, whatever you want to do, you will be good at.

Will you instill that? Is in this mommy, why you why do you tell your side of the child's barki story? Because it's it's a little bit funder on your side. Growing up and clear and heights, i'd love to tell everybody what I thought my name should .

have at the time here now it's just I was at the blood party. We have blood priority and clever hints because the houses were so close together. Shut down the street to get a um you know permission from the city hall and you would put um um you know like tables out and stuff like that.

We would put out the basketball who out in the street and kids would just blast and we we eat everything. And I am sitting down talking to my neighbors and there and I didn't know them very well because I worked during the day so I didn't meet some of the moms but IT was like, um so he said there's his great kid name Charles. He is a cool lest kid.

He's so funny. He's really talent. I'm like, really who's that they're like he's over there. I said you said as them as Charles I said that's a travis.

He right now he's Charles and this a bit this is for weeks you would tell that everybody on the street that your name is Charles so I knew you wanted to be him and that was something that, and I said, now your name is trails. I know you don't like IT, but you will when you get older, it's not a common name. So.

cb, thirty four men, they shock, I still want to be. I still want to be. Check, there you go. I still want to be you.

It's been so cool getting to know him, but that story is a, it's definitely one of the awkward ones that I can always have. Just stay here and be like I was just how you blame lying about my name. What do you, what do you think people listening don't know about being a pair in the nfl?

That's kind of interesting. Like to other obviously just talked about this. Are the boss's mother becoming? Do parents like become friends on teams you guys team up like that? Tell us a little insight on the parents.

parent life in the nfo. Yeah, well, i'm going to start with college because it's a whole different.

You get to bear cat moms.

You get to, I love bear cat t moms, and I still see them today. We get together once you gnant covered by, be beginning together for, you know, a couple of times a year, once a year. And I I miss him terribly.

It's a lot of time on the road going to away games and everything like that. When you get to the nfl, your children are adults and they're dating people and they're married to people, and they had their own dern. And as much as they like to see you every once in a while, they don't want you.

There are twenty four, seven. So the one thing that I miss the most is just being able to talk to you. IT feels like when you left the house, I didn't know that you would be gone forever.

I don't think any of us did.

No.

I did. And don't think, mom, you're you're more than welcome to come over here when I am not dating anyone, nor do I have kids so you can I got I got a room for you when you want to stop back sounds .

like you don't need we need, we need to say.

you say I just I come out the filly .

then yeah but no, it's you. I think that's the hardest part. And I think you guys have found out too, especially with the packets that you be able to talk to each other more.

You're so wrapped up and and the nfl is so demanding on a daily basis that their sacrifices that have to be made, people talk to be there like all you talk to your kids all the time i'm like, no, I don't first stop. I said, you know, seriously, you guys get a thousand texes a day. I'm sure there were more the night that you want and how do my text get through all that they .

can you know like sure they .

get lost in the in all the text. It's like i'm sure you don't even know that I I said I was so excited that you won that night because they don't .

get lost in the text as much as they get lost in the drinks that i'm having because on the drinks the drinks are flow and i'm not really look at at my phone that's true.

But I the other thing is, yeah i'm so privileged to be able to see the world through your eyes, to be able to go to events, to be able to see how you light up people's lives. When they talk to you, they take a picture, how much IT means to people and how genuine you are. And that makes me very, very proud. So i'm i'm okay to give you to the fans. It's alright.

Well, we love that everybody gets to see you through your eyes these past couple years with all the fan of that, the other fans that you've created for yourself going on the toys, shows and talking about us to spend fun seeing you in the limelight. De as well. How do you and dad separate our support media to? I'm sure everybody always ask me, how do your parents split up seeing the games and stuff like that want you give a little insight?

Well, i'm a little bit more methodical because i'm a banker. So as soon as the schedule comes out, neighbor, yes, 我 那个， but this schedule comes out April. I look at all the games, find out when all the home games are.

And I split IT up eight for each of you, and I just do IT that way. This year was tough. You were away a lot at the same weekend. You were home and the same weekends. So I think get to go to as many games this year as I usually do, but made a special you.

yeah, I think .

I picked all the writing. So IT was good, good.

The last question that people have to know, as our mother, do you support tiny babies?

Doors, yes.

signy actual babies.

It's another for the good guys.

So in other words, you're support of us. You're supported of turning down babies.

No.

you know that Young of an age just shutting them off. No.

I don't think you should ever even put a sharpie on an adult. I've not in the tooling. So no sharps .

or not tattoos. The travis, I ever do anything.

It's to facing your body. No.

did travis I ever do anything? Grocer or more growth growing up as as babies.

H met, well, you did take hair done time and hit me over the head. I saw stars. I think you, yeah, I think he was a like four months old. And he, we were sitting on the couch and I had my hair driver just sitting on the end table, and he picked this up and you would work. So you got both of us you got your day had at me with different um things .

so so no sign, baby. Sorry.

that's just the way I feel.

but a couple of the questions I want to get to so a man, I what publication who is with him? He got the grandpa blay lock story out of me.

Yeah, that's okay.

Why was graph actually charged with treason? No, what's a story? Can you give us to an actual story?

What report her captions?

Try to member. Which one I think might have been the washington poster? I forget what I was.

They find this. They ask me. They were asking me about the the the quote that grandpa gave me. And then I gave him the whole background about how the this guy, actually, he was, wasn't a great grandpa, but he was great grandpa in the right moment but yeah ah affair to say my generalizing the great what's o grapple a good person.

Grapple was, grapple was a narrow sis. This number one he named me.

that's one check for bad person.

He named me dona and he named his sun. Done so. He's got both of his kids named after him. So there you go.

His name's black.

so on. Anyway, it's one of those things where he was a wonderful human being. He got me to college pay for. And he he didn't know you.

You didn't believe.

Eventually he came around, he came around OK.

you prove you. You had to prove to your own father that you could do something.

Yeah, I think he told me when I was forty, he says, I never knew that you would bank IT in business. But anyway.

this is two checkmark in the bad guy category we got narcy is not believing in his own daughter, but the reason to create a tally right now. This is, got grandpa good grandpa, i'm waiting for the good. yeah.

Well, anyway, he was a funny person, but I will give them.

I don't think funny people necessarily feel good. I don't funny necessarily means good. But because he's got so many bad categories so far, I given a check, mark.

Well, basically what happened was is he was upset because he was a salesman. They weren't selling the product to clients anymore. He decided he could do IT Better.

So technically he was industrial espionage. He was stealing plans that they had already thrown in the trash. But he shouldn't have done that.

I was wrong. He got arrested, but he was never charged. And he wasn't selling secrets to the CIA or .

to the brush.

A so, no, so he's .

a thief. Yes, I you want to why is the .

bad thing a theis?

You don't still think stealing?

This brings up a great story. God, i'm so glad we got on the the topic of stealing my brother. I don't even know if you know this story on traditional, and I were walking around, what was the, what was the grocery? The government is the gas. And you know how they had the Candy that was.

Sit now and you could put IT in gentle.

let me finish the story and the the you would waited at the end and you would go and pay for the canteen. Yeah, I am walking to the girls and travis is just taking Candy out and eating IT right on the spot. And I do, what are you doing? And I don't act like you've never done this and I have never done that. What are you talking about?

Well, unfortunately, he's similar to me because I did that when I was a kid too.

So I like I so he .

wasn't charged .

with .

treason.

Not .

sure that he .

said he was charged. He he never convince he was charged, not convicted in a court of lot.

No, the worst thing that happened was he had his pension away was IT.

But he did help out the russians.

I don't .

think so, which really. So sort of her and not only did he helps the russians, that's where he met.

Stoia, oh my.

Well.

that's another thing. Your father's been .

married five times in in he he .

fathers to all of these women.

Course .

bad category. And the other is filled .

up the .

bank category and the everything was is that he just that you had a um you had a an uncle that was two years older than new Jason .

that's James .

yeah who's now in china .

two years .

old time out. So we've .

established grapples, a thigh mom, a thief. Travis, a thief. Was James was or hot, was James, or what's he not charged with trees? And in korea.

uh, he IT wasn't treasure made.

Leave the country. Didn't do that because somebody.

he was A D. J, and he was cut in on somebody's territory. James is A D J. He became .

like, that's .

right. And so yeah, yeah, so yeah, he was A D. J.

Over there. So he was taking people away from another bar. And so this guy went and .

put leg. I've heard nothing that would get you.

You put marijuana in his room. So he's. A good he's a international drug dealer.

Let's be marijan. I MIT okay with so much, I don't know.

So i'm waiting .

for more good things from grap outside of the category. Did he love? He was.

he was a good day. He was a good day.

answered very no that.

yes.

very good.

That's where Jason gets IT.

Yeah, IT. And but there .

were a lot of good traits. He was, he was a good friend to a lot of people. In my high school, there was a girl, her family.

I could not afford to get her, her senior pictures. So my dad paid for her to get her pictures. He thought everybody should have their senior pictures.

So we had empathy. He had empathy. I put that in the good category. Yes, didn't. He's still trAiling, but i'll put that the sympathetic yeah right what speaking .

to say good athlete because we get our athlete.

He was he was a good thing.

comes down a bad person yeah.

After this name is .

of trade.

what that's enough of regional .

grappa he can defend himself here is pretty unfair.

He since moved on here he was.

He was a great grandfather for me, a really important part of my life and the sure mental lot.

So I know Jason. Jason, to those who haven't heard the story.

once you give that, we haven't told that story here. No, we have. yeah. So how often the graph come visitors growing up?

Well, he was raising his own child. So I know we had .

barely said he had an uncle.

That was two years later. He also lived in a suffers.

yeah. So what?

My baby is barely over.

And once, twice a year he tried to come to at least one game of years, a year in a foobar game he would come to to since he he he went to a couple of pro. I think um your first year, I think he made IT to, uh, the eagle. So yeah yeah well.

he so when I was in high school still and for some reason he was in town at this very specific moment um and I just found out that I wasn't how you receive no scholarships to go to like anyone schools and I was trying to figure what I was going to do in life and whether I was going to go and play football on college, whether I was going to go and play across I was going to go to college at all to be after which I think I was going to go to college because mom and dad, we're certain ly pushing that really hard um and grandpa r gave me a little card that had a quote from calvin coolidge about persistence on IT um and for a long time I had that card whatever I went and then one day I got drunken lost IT .

like i'd have most of my damages like Chris since nani .

human correct yes there is a pattern there for sure um and the cards .

the quote said nothing .

in the world can take the place of persistence and oh my gosh now you put me on the spot. I think IT started with education. Yes, education will not.

The world is full of educated derelicts um genius will not. The world is full of underwood genius. Talent will not. Nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent, persistence and determination alone or a nipt tent the slogan press on has solved and always will solve the the problems of the human race. So a very deep quote for a kid who just wants to play football.

But I really hit me for some reason at the right time and um combined with my mom and dad supporting me, motivated me to try and play division one college for ball because I could have gone division two or three as well or wonderbra but mom and dad really because I had some partial scholarships but mom and dad were very adamant that wherever I wanted to go they would make IT work we find a way to make IT work financially to just go and try and play wherever you want. And went to university since and ati visit and fell in love with the bear cats in the university and decided to walk on there and I don't know that what to happen without gramp giving me that quote. So for all of his womanizing and theory and treason, he knows a great grandpa at one moment um and um so thank you you you wouldn't .

be live without exactly let's .

cut away from grandpa we got we talked about grandpa. We're going to get back to dad because is a question and we want to did you know that dad was trying to communicate with aliens?

Yeah, yeah. He told me about that. What he said that was that he was sharing his computer juice, what everyone I call IT .

at that time. He LED IT juice.

He LED computer juice. Yeah I think it's the hard drive. That's what if we're sharing witnesses witnesses and they were trying to uh find you know extra steals and yeah he tell me about .

IT at the time. What did you think of when he told you this?

Um you know I think I am not one of those individuals at .

the time at the time when he told you that what was the first thing to happen in your .

head and are we being payment?

Are you you not a company? But the .

funny thing is, now you believe in aliens, like two years.

I know SHE SHE was always on board behaviors. He was always on board alien.

not just the aliens out there. You believe that aliens have been to you, to the planet earth.

yeah. To the blender. Ter, they're here, Jason.

Yeah, I can't believe that we're the only ones in the universe that were.

So I I agree .

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Last question, mom. This is arguably the most important question that I have to ask. I've been saying last question for about times, but this is the outside right here.

What was .

more memorable? Our birth, our draft or our super bowl this year?

Oh, oh, no. Our first super voices .

of our first super world.

Yeah, man, that's that's rough. Which one do you mean? Well, well, well, through the birth I was so excited, know your .

birth also .

drugged that I wasn't really drug but I I I had a little to yeah, so you're not really drug but you're just can't feel anything so foobar.

yeah, so .

anyway, IT was, you know, I don't know, there are all such wonderful things. I each time you win a game, or you do something like when you played the sax phone on at seven hall, anything like that, whenever you do something like that, IT just brings me pride. And I cried, so you know my cry baby so that is what IT is. So you you've .

always made me proud.

You've always made me proud. And you know it's uh, there's a few things that we probably are proud of, but don't we all have that in our background? So so yeah but but you know i'm telling you you know to come through what you both have had to come through and have to overcome um IT may not be as much as other and if all players that have gotten to where you're at but IT still was difficult for children you know to get through.

that was an easy there an easy it's .

a grind doubt before we let you go.

mommy, we're going to turn the floor over you. You use this communication degree right now. You got any questions for us heading .

into the weekend? I think I asked you all for the weekend. Oh, man, um what's the one thing you're gonna thinking about when you're seeing the national anthem?

Oh my gosh, you're going to bring me to tears. That's always when I like I have my like moment of appreciation of the gratitude of just being thankful for all the people that have bit in my life and how man i'm thinking i'm choking up right now.

It's just a cool moment to sit there and look at all the fans and in the stadium and know that you you're about to go out here doing something so much fun in front the people that you love and in front of the people that helped you get to where you are in life. And that's what I always think of when I listened to the nationalism. My one moment to reflect on everything and be appreciative and know that you're .

watching yeah it's cool. How about you, Jason.

why I always saying IT um yeah I think it's the same thing is trying to send for some reason it's a very emotional moment. And I think it's because you realize that, you know, all of us being here together as a country and as a group and as a family, like all of these and friend, everyone involved in this allows me to play a sport in a game for a living. And you realize how fortunate you are and how in this together all of us are so it's it's it's an emotional moment for me as well and IT definitely causes reflection and when it's a game like the super bowl is just magnified that much more. Um so um yeah I think i'm right there with the truth .

right now right now, what we're happened on with dad next. Okay, got any message you want us to relate to him?

No, not really. Just see him. See him this weekend, next weekend.

Yes, right now. See in the desert to mommy. Thank you. I love you so much.

See you this week in arizona is .

going to be peer joy. I mean, i'm gonna a love that game. I'm not going to wanted to stop. That's a problem.

We do. We need, do we need to? Do we need to run this back next year? Just .

absolutely right. You both have to .

be in .

a good next weekend.

Next year, next year.

Yeah, you play jay. You got to play. It's official action. Joa, Jason is not retiring. mom. Cao got him to say that he is in on super boll.

Ch, oh, well.

thank you for your time. I can see you down zone.

The good thing is, if you play each other, you, you're playing each other and canes the city next year.

next year, in in .

behead. No.

listen to fuck your Browning.

Yeah, you .

kiss my grandbabies .

for me.

I will go kalia hai.

love you, love of you a lot.

Mama, this next conversation is one that travel I have been dying to have from the moment we started this podcast. IT is a going to be with the man who was our coach growing up was the Christmas Candy man. Spent a lot of time in and on the steel mills, while also looking for life among the stars.

Our next guest is our pa, the first dad of two sons playing each other in the super bowl. IT is amazing. Gentleman, I present you.

Ed Kelsey, yeah.

yellow. Ed galy, yellow. And kale, anybody that's ever called our house in clever heights, has heard the famous and infamous yellow and Kelsey as pops would work from a home, and he would always have his his slogan, right as he answered the phone. So that's as a little shout on a little love, everybody back and climbing heights. Sen.

well, that thanks for being here. Um have .

you seen the show? Everyone .

haven't seen the last one. have.

Take that .

you around.

i'll go with the program. You are if .

you haven't seen if you .

ve seen I I actually seen I live .

to sten to well list to you know that we we're not uh experts. We're not um at all what's so we're .

looking for professional.

That's what the what else a .

force sessions that's .

right are I don't pit .

I don't figure that not qualified do .

interviews. We're just going to have a conversation with their dad um dad and two sons. I'm going to combo, but I think people going to love IT. So try out what do you lead IT off?

This lead IT off. Our first signal, pops, is the super bull questions that we just have to ask you. But and ever so we've known for about a week now that we're going, we planned in the super bol, super bow, fit six.

How do you not know? Seven.

seven, seven. Can you read roman numerous?

The five is A V. So I just haven't seen yet. I ve seen L.

V. I, I.

Nice with eighty seven.

What's liv?

Fifty two.

We go pops here.

That's got dead here, right? You have that one two thousand years of last week, been four years since you, since you found out we were going to the super table.

It's been crazy. It's been crazy. I I have had a little taste of how your phones get blown up. Oh yeah. There is with text messages and emails and calls, I now understand .

why you do not. How do you do IT? yeah.

How you deal with? How do you do ch phone?

You have to at least get.

get. I do you like, I get back to people that I talk to in the past that is done. Uh, the a couple of readers and john hostage is one of them, uh, got back with just a couple times. So you're mostly talking about this .

media request and people you know get yes, I do. Yes.

i've heard from cousins I dona died.

Think because they are not they for people are for people.

I haven't heard from me fifty years, whose your favorite person .

i've heard from.

the favorite person i've heard from. I set down the same farmer last tuesday. The same .

farmer .

is a sports writer for the L. A times. He is in the pro football hall of famous of foobar writer.

This is a guy. This, this is the top of guy. Had a great time, had a great mission with him.

Would you get talking about, we talk about you guys and the know, the old football thing. After that, it's always fun to talk to P J. P J is like as a sports a sports journalists on our journalist at the the the facts, I clever in .

which .

would say.

I'll tell you what people didn't. Didn't I mean, we got to let everybody know mom had the communication degree, but you actually had a journalist like career there for a journal. Like is that the journalist? Yeah journalist career there for a second.

You he was, he came out with a few articles. He would always have. He, he always have his blog. Yeah, you did the one piece on recruiting .

is and posted the best part of a book that i'd never finished called somebody to grow up with about youtube, which I got to get up. But beauty said one of these days, right, and I I put that on the website, actually did something with the dad.

fog dad, you, I know what fog dad is now.

find old gentlemen. Dad, and I, okay, fucked at all. guy.

Dad, thank you. Everybody, everybody out of four team. The four team was guys over thirty. He was so .

play in run fog dad, the .

fog .

dad.

And I I thought .

the entire time I was fatal guy.

I really did. I think you're little a fog that is easy part .

of fog that .

regardless.

they were always to clean up a final gentleman and in reality, fucked in all gay.

Yeah, we don't know. That's not true. Pops, who are you rooting for?

Yeah now that we're here .

for very for .

very much.

okay, but there's two teams.

So if they we're going to be here a long time while you try get that we're .

in a battle to the death. One of us has to survive who you're ready for.

Both of you know, I win. Going to go to captain, the captain cark rock. You believe in no wind situations? That's good. That's j .

yeah. Okay, way.

way over my head for sure. yeah.

I member specific.

This is from, like.

nineteen sixty seven. Yes.

this is from A T. V show. This isn't from.

i'm not a tRicky, you know .

what a tRicky is? Trip a treacy? I would say the coat that follows star wars.

I see, look at this .

guy is all over the place .

for my class .

of on.

Thank you for guinness to move on. We know a lot of the media is bad as you and get you to talk about the the healthy ball that is to come. Uh, so let's get these out of the way.

go. We've already .

ask you who the favorite is and you said me, which I love you for, but who are you talking to first after the game, the winner of the loser.

I have any .

reason .

for that. Yeah and I want to and I want na be with him initially.

Yeah jeff said that you know, mom can't lose, but actually mom is going to lose and you're going to lose, right? There's going to be a winning year to losing. No.

no. What are you guys? What are you guys are going to lose?

So you're not going to lose with one of us.

You're only going with the winner. I have already one dude. You want one. The most popular power, gas and sports that. I already fucked one. O, K, all the rest is just one of you're never going to get the answer. You are going to talk about winning and losing the well.

mom said, were bad losers.

Is that true? I think you take IT a heart. I don't think your bad losses, I thank you. I think you feel for each team made.

I think regardless of your performance on the field, which is generally Stellar, you come off of a last in first. You blaming is your blaming yourselves yeah and that's and that's a self that that would makes us proud. Yes, you instill that.

I know you installed i'm sure Jason has stories like this, but I remember growing up always, whenever I had a great game. IT was, IT was, yeah, was a good, was a good game. But you could do Better.

IT was always, there was always taking IT up at night. I remember feeling like I, you know, had the best game of my life, had a home runa to win the game, or something like that I was exciting to. But first two at bat, you get lucky.

you lucking. Well, the biggest room is the .

room for improvement.

right, brother? I I also remember doing really want a game yet. Dad, didn't I do good? You like stop seeking praise for you what you exactly you said, but you're not a fan .

of variation.

Yeah, I guess, yeah, yeah. Remember you doing that? But I don't know why I do that. But did you know .

there's a did you know there's a petition to get mom to do the coin flip? Have you .

heard about this?

Have heard .

it's nationwide good out flip on you think clip is .

this is you got a Better chance to .

get the .

pick of winter than ever. This conversation.

Said well, said Jason takes there are next one.

We're a talk growing up that .

I fully intend to. Okay.

let's talk about you growing up where where you from a family background. Let's just give like a quick high level overview of a keller's life.

the oldest of two children in group and and clever to how neighbor's called color wood, which was home to the country road rail routers. And this is because this was a huge railyard were traffic between chicago, new york, mobile and detroit. I'll pass through cliver in the church, blue color town, blue color party level, great neighbourhood was a lot of fun.

Went to one of the biggest high schools in north ohio at the time, state joes. And also， uh, had a year in college, right? I .

probably had a year in credit. IT wasn't all when you in college.

okay? And what .

college .

I did a quarter. And I .

have.

dad was a book.

Anybody had to come home? I mention other problems where I going to dive here, what to try? See a cup for? No, I think i've got some place around a year and a half a credit, some place between, oh, say client, say university.

and try to see, what did you do have to college.

H, well, here I tried. I started out working in a lab, in a, in a foundry that is, rather than actually working in the production of the the steel cases, I will be taking samples and taking back to lab and analyzing. And you know, we didn't know the machines.

I got doubt you were everything you do is what chemistry. So, you know, know, if you going to test the a particular heat of of of steel, you might have thirty different Bakers with little bitch that you're dissolve ing and you're GTA put different reagents in there and see out reaction, you know that so started out of that. They started to some some physical testing of steal things like that.

Steel 没有， that's where and that's where you ended up. A for the most part of our life.

the steel mill is. Yes, yes.

yeah. So did where you be. Mom.

time you didn't you? What you in the coast guard? Did you do the coast guard? Well, I did.

I did the coast guard, I try. I tried to join first I tried to join the marines because my knees well. I had the country .

ship are playing .

in high school football.

right to school .

football and uh and I said, now we're not doing this uh uh then I watch to the army and try to sing the then I got, remember everybody, my family prior me was in the service. I me but you know but we're also thought ever my family lived through all too. Okay, so that that's what everybody is because big one got right.

I A little of accused the area, I don't know you ve got people going to come to keep from getting drafted and i'm here offering to come in and I had some crucial old surgeon just chew me out about you. What am I going to tell the mother that the guy who died trying to Carry your big house there, because you can walk a legitimate point, has gently and and anything you really use service, because you have been in the service, you can try the naive y or coast guard. I'd recommend the coast guard.

The navy is going to give you sure about studies too, about your knee IT was not only the left ty at that point yeah and I yeah I listed in the coast guard and the the crown reared up by driver. Her had that before yeah and I was I was sick. And what you most the basic training with with some severe this this entire time.

I thought you find your way out of IT.

Well.

I didn't sure. I thought I thought I got the flanking from you.

No, no, no. They think people, I do remember.

they taught you really well. Um you are the best flower i've ever seen in .

about know how to was IT .

not impressive. I still don't know how you did that. I was like flat as a board, everything up on top of the water.

Well, now everything, what would you actually did? Would you take a deep breath and you just left arms and your like saying down and no, you don't you have your arms in front to be like your hand and then yeah and when you when you have to take a breath again, yeah you kick your legs, push your hands down yeah and you rise up, take a breath and go back down yeah to get through basic train, to do that for an hour.

an hour, what is?

And there there are reports of people doing that, that you but I mean, the training is because actually you do in the ocean, you don't have you dumped in the water. You don't have a life first. Yeah, we do draft.

He was not. How long could you do that for you think?

I don't know. I don't know.

You made IT at least hour though.

No, I did. I didn't do a whole hour because I didn't get that on the training. I got you couple probably just twenty minutes and twenty minutes .

sound like that .

didn't send you out to do that for down of the bed. Do a few times. Had perfect growing up.

growing up. I thought you were the most least dense man that I had ever met my life, because you were just rise and tire. impressive. Um where did you meet, mom? That's .

what baby vans was not around you. Yes, vacant was one of only maybe two or three bars on the east east bank of the flats at that time. Everything else down there was all samsu marine supply.

There were, and there were there, you know, there were. Manufacturing company is small. My maps to either metal work is some sort, or putting other things. And they were all there to readers.

The flats, everybody can do their history of the flats. We got to go back to mom, so mom actually told us that you stole her from her date that night. You swept her.

You sweep their reps. You supposed to go to a play, a play out square. Go crew, that bum. This makes a man tapella babies.

I I don't actually remember that I, you know what you.

you pick up one.

he should say how you don't. You gotta realized i'm coming there out of a shop that I worked out in the flats where I made so remic fired pieces for the .

steel industry. And in aly chemicals.

i'm in covers you are covered with, with, and, and, and .

stuff, and go SHE .

got about, yeah, something about the pick up.

And that that was got. And and we started talking, and and I need, I have a car. I didn't have a car and I needed to write home. SHE can be write home and you came out, hang on with, I change.

Oh, just write home.

What you give right back, little bill SHE game right home took a quick shower and cleaned up and we went out to a to a barred over in seder center called the no name.

The no name classroom is a .

business about eleven thirty every night because bars and cleveland heights closed at eleven, no nice bars and clever heights and university height closed eleven. And the road name was in south ukon. And so like a thirty time, the car you got, you got, everybody want to know me.

I think the place should be dead. The place should be dead until eleven o'clock. And then you berlin smart business .

model sounds like a true .

american love story. Well.

speaking of cliver heights, we've talked about growing up in cliver heights and mostly all the damaged IT to the house. Um how would you describe raising both .

of us a fun and ic, a ride?

What did you? Yeah, you made us a mini stick arena in the basement, out of plywood, in carpeting, top of a man, which I do t know, how are .

you be able to do the so road.

I remember.

which is kind of graph. What IT scrape your skin? But it's a good .

pair between the concrete.

exactly when you built the many. Serena, how heavy duty to that they need to be .

built for you? Not really mean.

I just, I cut the boards and just found with the proper, if I would have, for instance, I could .

and I put two by .

four now thought I just take for my a trees and repent have I had tried what? The idea to take a two by four backing is to hold them all together, to give them more original pretend you're talking about something that that could be a lot to give to. And I really .

wanted that.

I also, there were to be kids there. I did you think about .

splinters?

No.

because I got, i've fuck though.

I mean, I knew they were coming.

But good for the mune system going to build up the munich.

Good point. Good point. Bigger mune system guy.

I actually expected that thing to be destroyed, like in the first couple of weeks is the best option here a couple years, years pretty good.

We have the sports complex outside too. So we use the house in the garage. Is back stop part of .

the rules .

of the game when .

you got fired up? And hockey, we did the thing, I made a PVC goal, and and then through a bad man, that we've yet around that, and so you guys could shoot the outside on the drive way, should puxi the goal. And and you, mr. G, 你 现在 才 认识 那个 rage。 And we would tell around and there go the windows on the basis no.

had more dense provi one.

Yes, what we can't forget.

we .

can't forget, we can't forget him. Baseball, but the rules, a hand baseball. The rules.

The ball. I kick all rules.

Yeah, like you. Yeah, you hit the ball with your hand. And if you, if you feel the ball, I can hit him before you get with the ball, before you get the first places out. Yeah, if you can hit any time you've got the ball. F, if you can hit when .

you're not on bases on right and if you hit the house, IT was a below certain amount with the household on or was that above a certain .

height was a homine if nail the house who was a home?

Yeah actually we didn't start playing the levels until we got the wife ball and we start ball.

S, if you remember.

I do not remember that. I remember .

that a little .

bit world of socks.

We didn't happy sex, but they have you sex. Every shot was a home run with you too. Oh, okay, so I started just rolling up side. I know.

right. IT was .

great exert, I will never remember. I never forget that comes over. And I got heated them in prime height side.

He and he comes over and he sort of play hand baseball, others, and he played, we have a great time. And the day he caution he can't move. His arms and shoulders as less and I really was a good workout. I mean, to do you're do a lot of quick twitch moves is is almost like a continual condron I pop um .

you just got to done talking about handball, all these things. What what made you get? Travis and I sports, what was? Why were sports so important?

Sports word I didn't get you and draws in the sports and sports word all about important. As such, IT was more of a natural progressions of what you guys wanted to do. So I was a kid. Do you don't .

really know about sport? Like what was the the first thing we did .

was A T ball or soccer. First thing we did was talking the library of me and roll up back me. And we played that way. That's that's where IT all started and this today.

So what point did you sign a super er tea ball or first .

first opportunity, first opportunity, five years old for the ball.

Did you coach immediately with tables? Because I know you are a coach in youth baseball.

No, I I I people was hard to, when we on the way, just just have fun. You don't mean, I do remember you giving me.

I do remember you giving me one piece of coach of ice and t table, which was pulled me aside and he said, Jason, none of these kids can thrown on catch and just keep running and more in the park road.

Yeah, and for the life of me, I couldn't figure why other parents to do the same thing.

Nobody got that series.

Have you want to home?

Oh, my bad.

So you .

need a coaches in T. A. When did you .

start coaching? Is to travel in people. Because I was in height catch and did that at same time I did there.

You were in coach pitch, the at heights and IT wasn't a height youth program. IT was run by IT was run by the school. Actually community services, community services that isn't .

height program though.

that will IT wasn't the heights, was heights community services, but IT was a .

heights rack just .

so wasn't up before sales. Touchy fly, you know?

H, yeah, touchy.

It's baseball.

What do you talking about? touchy. Fei, like you can get much more touchy feel than coach page baseball.

I, I, I would have to pitch one time. And I feel IT overhand. And were their parents who objected to overhand pitch and to do everybody else s you get her underhand.

everybody has under .

and that .

this is not the baseball kids go. And so we went over to service.

I feel so underhand to you, all right? And and everything is a line show. We have little kids scared to death.

We at at that time heights youth baseball had just consult there like they have they have like three different programs going on at the same time, that is between travel teams. And there were there were too, not like a little gorging ization. And I forget with the, everyone was called, and they just consolidated everything in rich dancing I kept to look at, I get, just put this kid and kid pitch will be fine.

And he said, I can't do, everybody is gna want to do that, this. So we took this to, we went to south. You played to play, yeah. You played one year of of kid pitch in south uglik, where you seven years old.

yeah.

Denis, seven rate, yeah, yeah. And IT was a, the coach is greek. I you really, you had a hockey coach first year? Yes, j joe, talk to coach.

That is sun played ed with this. Just come on out here and you move out there on and you had a great, a great time that was fun. And I knew, you know, you did well.

You did. You were. I didn't like you being either or you guys, but really start the most location. I didn't like you being on a team where you were the stud.

okay? I learned you to be in a team where you gotta work harder to play up at the level everybody else is. Make sense, make sense. And we did that then the following year you are eligible for high chief baseball.

And that's when you .

started coaching that. Yes, I told there, I told, yeah, I coached, I coach the table which I have was actually that say, I go step over to us, just not there. And then then the year after that, would south, they were back in climbing heights. You're playing for for brunch wit. And one yourselves .

a White hat. One yourselves a White hat.

Let's you need check the shape.

I don't have one of those pops.

We time out, we know that when you know, what were your rules as a coach, he had .

one rule that no.

I had I because .

this was youth baseball, community baseball, I was. And as as much as I was in in the winner, as much as anybody else, I have very specific rules for the team. You will go from the infield one inning to the outfield, that exiting to the bench, that exceeding, and then repeat.

Yeah, that way every kid play equally. Every kid would be exposed to more, more positions. A. Causes a few games maybe. Now that was love.

We do love that. Not tell you what, I remember playing for you and that was the year that I played, both travel in community ball because you were coaching community ball when we were .

in college still. But you'd d never, never didn't seek IT like all yeah, you said, gentle, I, I, I, I reach a coach. I need a coach.

Can you help me out? And that was going to be a coach page. yes. And I do that and I do that.

I played, I coach for six years, and I had, I had, keep kids your item, try to build this powerhouse server thing. But the kids I coached the first year, the parent come back niche. They want to play for the same guy. Because we did this thing. You played every position, everybody plays equal well.

how you do the line up of school, how you did that too.

and that was just basically pronounce a spirit cheat and put everybody's name in there. And IT was the first .

nine .

names on .

the field.

Five, you used to say you did .

the lineup based on who showed up to the field?

First, bad order.

Then I know. I A .

Better recording you who showed up. Yeah, I so i'm there to half when I get there. Have a before, before the game.

I want to start during the line. Now I was actually there now, ready for the game. Yeah.

did you ever did you tell parents?

Did you tell parents in that made IT very good. Now just one day, we're going to do this with, we're going to do this with playing time. I'm going to do this with positioning uh as for volunteers for stack stuff, I get I said the batting order will be when they show up. So if you if you bring your kid at two minutes before a game time every week, don't come to me because he's biting lash.

So if the best hitter showed up last.

he was nice. He was bad. It's terrible coaching.

Pop.

that's that's good. B, I would definitely been in the bottom that line up. 那。

胖 叔。

they also, they.

their bikes, they bikes, they can go to the field. What do you talk you about? They got.

let's go.

You can be making accusations of parents. All right, what sport did you play? Grown up.

mostly baseball, football. They would see oil, basketball. But that was that was a pretty basic level.

We just touched on that you've told your knee you're senior year of uh of high school then and then you decide to .

play rugby after h with a bomb knee. Ruby, yeah, I think that's pretty cool. That then when I came to came back home after get on my house, said I ran some good name were .

rugby players, oh.

no name ended up and and ended up going, uh going your practice actually what's your game first? And the rubber games were also europe in uh in the metro parks. We had uh we had agreement with the measure park.

We had to feel we could use. They cut IT for us. nice.

We lined to put a goal post, and we like cars on both sides. Yeah, that's yes. That's I do the other. And so can .

you definitively say which sport is tougher? Which which players are tougher? football? yours? They don't. They don't .

where pads .

and .

ruby did .

don't block the .

block and rugby.

So it's facing a porter back snake guys.

either or not, five, seven guys, eight guys on both sides of ball. They are looked together and they rolled the ball in the middle. Push you push .

these .

guys back up, put until the ball comes out the back.

What was that? Were you in the scrum or were you?

And I was, I was second roles. There's there's a the guy in the middle called the hooker in the front row. There are two guys at the front row.

Props get the new sugi second role, sure. And then there three guys behind them. okay?

A lot more high collision basically because .

high speed collisions .

in football. I mean, you've got you've got page. You think you could get hurt. You're running faster. Your guys, you're getting black.

So big look.

if you're going to have to somebody, worst of all, you're missing an opportunity to grab the ball. You tackle a guy and so he hits ground. He's got like all the ball.

But and so .

you're at that point, you're just you're jacking for a position. I mean, the ball is a constant line, is damage moving and you're not able to go pass IT unless you have possession of IT.

Wow, SHE getting .

everything right now.

Yeah, john, not. Yes.

what I was going, say, j. Smith sr, actually. Yeah, you grow a plane. Rugby out. Kelly, I believe out. Kelly.

alix, team teams I play for.

basically. Dad, what you're saying is that Jason wouldn't have been good at rugby because is a blocker, and I would be really good at rugby because here .

have the block.

I could just blank the entire fucking game.

I think is generally a position called the flaker.

Well, the flaker is a wider super no.

Maybe a football in the, in rugby have wings, have the two guys at the other describe on the outside, on the back, I call the wing forward, and also generally your fastest bike men. I know that the two wings, eight men, uh, two seconds, two props and a hooker, that group is called the pack, which is like the office of line. And they basically hunt together.

Jason would have been also IT would be because of his attitude. Not only then if a guys should with the body you can tackle, that's fine. Well, what Better is when you look there and .

you take that ball from both behind? St, why be good? Because because I like to drink beer, and I think that that's pretty much.

The really dad, he met the team at the bar. And then after every single game, after every .

single game.

how do I know when you guys are? Come to no name, you do IT. After every right, begin.

If you're just go, what's let's get to this. So we've credited mom very frequently with our athletics genes. Does this? Is this a fair .

accreditation? The science back .

up there are science.

That's that's what i've been told now. Have I done the research now? But the the, the thing is, I say you can get your athletic ability probably from your mother.

okay. You don't think it's because .

I don't think you had any. If if we got IT, if we could have gotten IT from you, would you have offered athletic ability?

我。 把 那个。 King of .

mom, you're divorce. And we we asked mom this question, um how much do you hate mom?

no.

To both of them are liars. There's a service now we're kidding. We know you guys don't hate each other.

That's for those questions where you have a sure quick answer to the point to .

shut that fuck up. Okay, all right, that did not go .

us plan also learn great things from md. Kelsey shutting the fuck up as one of them.

We know you don't hate her because you still remind us to call or all the time you still remind us that reach around a birthday for a divorced, a couple of what you too sure do care about each other still um .

certainly I would want nothing but happiness for your mother .

yeah so you .

don't regret .

marrying her and you know you happy. Um what is we've told the story in the show about um you taking a second job around Christmas in order to pay for gifts was IT actually to pay for gift?

That was that just for free Candy? Let's set over my Candy. What nothing about kid?

Kid stored your.

sell your .

product and .

was stores a Candy kiosk product over Candy kia?

You gotta know more about get to work at the game.

Actually, I just looking for a job. There's an ad paper for part part time season over. Typically if if you're working in the seal industry and in the sales of the evaporative products or you know you need the installations even if you just a service sky, things slow down right around thanksgiving.

Child, after the first year year, yeah, they are avoiding buying anything. So we get into a new a new fiscal year. Yeah and guys be the you can just go you show up with, you know, my big thing was your holiday, the show, the holiday terms of deficits given to these guys and I get I get, thank you cards from their wives yeah I mean that yeah, that was pretty.

That was I I would do that. So I had time and looking for something. Part time at the first year was because the the ipad, ipads just come out.

oh yeah.

you guys wanted ipad. And you one of those double sly, expensive carbon fiber hockey .

sticks. Yeah, he sticks.

I need to get a part time job for that. And and to pay goodbyes, I going to pay a good hourly wage.

So what? Why did you do that? what? what? Why was making Christmas special so important to you?

I had two kids, so I was crazy about you. Don't I don't know what you know. I I don't I don't think, I don't think that. I don't think i'm unique in that or anything else. You are also, if he was working, just find those, give that be brought some some more cash around the homes.

That's fair. We always bring up how um you have a newness.

You you who was just .

going to ask you to hit a new needs for us. So think you're right, don't you? How did how did you get these new knees? But how did you.

We don't .

need this wrong question.

Our artificial knees Better than actual needs. I see more around the garden.

You look a little Better if I would if I had turned you to realize that what I had surgery that that took me out of sports in high school um that would be a bump of the road for a high school player now, yeah, okay. Because they would first in the scar, first all they don't go in and nobody goes in and takes the entire curtly general. They take the girl, they came off the faded edges and they take up the best of, and they, and they do not to increase up about flow heels. Are this typically where they're just going in with like little needles and cameras and share, yeah I know how what do yeah what what .

do artificial needs feel like?

There are I don't know that they feel any different than I feel. No, certainly a little tight.

And you know.

treat me all. I haven't followed up as well as I should have. No, no. But i'll .

tell you my .

best story about the new days.

Yeah.

what's the last year was the first year really went down on their planes. Come and see you guys. Yeah, okay, there's a bandana year.

nothing. You know, that's really the year that I have to shed. I gone the first filling and a really think earn filly. And I look on my cake, twenty three, look around somebody with a golf card and a right from, have nobody, as I start to walk in the hitting, say no big deal or anymore 事实 did you have an issue .

with the metal detector？ right? I just now it's not metal detectives anymore. It's like the think .

you if you go through the medal detector, they can, you can, you have to go through that. You know you know the one where you put your hands above your head and IT spines around. It's like a 3d picture， a very meal. They can and look and they can actually you have you have any other medical implants, you have to go through that.

You know, I tell you what that I tell everybody that Jason is ed healthy. Two point out, you guys are literally mere images of each other. And I love every bit of IT. Do you agree? Do you see more in Jason of yourself than you do in me?

And I spot on with this. There are things there are, and you're not the first one to mention that there are murison 呃， tone speech things the way we talk and address sed, people stop that are very different between me and James. Oh yes. But as far as do I see more of myself and Jason than you? No, in in some ways it's IT might be the .

other way. Wo in what way specifically? Well.

我 那么 高 的 人。

We always .

think in IT saying .

he can't read. It's very poor of money. We think .

about I.

Now I wanted know what you see in me, that you see yourself.

the all of you feel the IT.

When did you feel like the nfl might be a actual reality for me in Jason? Did you ever think about steering us in a different direction? Or when .

we are you? My my thoughts were always, uh, my job to help you find a passion and then feed fashion. Uh, that your passion, beauty guys were sports. You, Robert will be the same thing about music, dance, art, whatever you would be you wanna do there but you do something.

And as far as you and I felt IT was very apparent to me when you're in high school, there was something outrageously special about multiple um maybe in middle school. In are not one. Yeah yeah.

By the time huberty had you've been played a hockey for three or four years each, hockey was such a huge flow yeah and and and and talk you so much about team sports that that that translate over for where there is baseball, basketball, football, whatever you're going across, whatever whatever you're playing. Your you're using those skills. And I don't necessarily mean the physical skills, I don't worry, the mental aspect.

Hockey, they're to escape, do something very uncomfortable on earth, move across ice on at the same time. You've got to sick. You keep on the life, you ve got a party, you can look at you. You got to keep skating at the same time you're looking at a rotation yeah one that I support players ago and and to know where you're going to go, yeah and i'll tell you when you when IT really hit me about how much your the exposure did you guys had to multiple sports impacted everything, was 我， travis travis summer, of you're off the team. What do you play?

cash. The only time i've ever gotten cut in my life, I got cut in college tubs.

and I watch him. You got to the plate and starts looking at around and everything going on, looking at to go seeing all these signs and and the next, the next week, the ball went where I should have gone, hit behind the runner, the rider advance, and I see you on second base. He's look at all around where everything is catching signs back at first taking that.

What we're seeing here is the commination of A A lifeline be at a brief lifetime, but a lifetime of playing multiple sports and understanding team games in how you how how you you need to interact to make your teams is Better. And um I mean it's the same skills, the same line said this feed like that is is is the same mindset that you have when you got on the football field, when when you're play, when he was playing across IT was the same thing. And and I think that is what made to even out at that point.

By then, everybody knew you were going to be in the N F. L. I. I had a pretty good .

indication .

this was going .

to have to both of you that .

yeah so forgot conclusion .

at that point.

I just switch positions. I was look like dry, my really .

trying to run out. I mean, when I knew was IT was a fork conclusive, jon, but you knew I knew how to .

follow first steps and you .

knew travel is more at looking than me. So if changes, go and travis, go, right? Is if we wouldn't gone into the na philpot, what do you think we would both be doing? I know we and to be asked, we don't know the answer. This questions like that.

you're going to know the answer. You doing something with sports.

so do they. Travis .

would be in the MBA question.

他们 anything？

There's no a gender behind that question. B IT .

is .

alright. There would be no baseball, no football. There would be nothing but basketball because everybody that in the NBA was .

nothing but basketball .

yeah that everybody makes best place. But and if you're not play, you you have to because every other player out there is doing the same thing.

That's what they're doing.

Same of the hockey too are here you here and hokey time you play good? no. What advice would you .

give parents listening whose kids might have aspirations of going into the N.

F, depending on the age? And it's it's hard to say kids about aspirations for the united ties. Six seven years old. yeah.

I mean, I I would I away from the from the about associations for the nfl yeah and I would say I would advise parents who want to feed that passion as your child has for athletics and the most again. Uh and so like a broker record here, put on my ice, now be the first thing. Hockey is the main way .

to get to the n film.

I think hockey is the main way for you to understand team sports in developed conditioning and team play and learn skills to do things that are on our ethics. Yeah, I think hockey's like that. I I also think suckers like that.

Yeah, I think yes, baseball like that.

Baseball are little different. Yes, basis are different. And but the me, if the kids have the s just find my problems with the parents to have the aspirations of the kids.

You to tell the world .

what you're fess and .

feed just tell about .

do you feed and and future nfl players what is the nutrition like for those kids grown up?

I'm going to tell you every but it's not for any of your kids and suffered anything. It's for healthy Young bodies. What's meat? protein? Protein with every meal? A car with every meal? Fruit, vegetable.

But is so never.

we've never got vegetables growing up. I'd never ate a single veba. We ate georgians of fresh pizza every single night.

Not every night.

Help sometimes to big bites. I want big bites, but. That's .

sauce salt, which is hydro test concert body put. Up the. Redirects, let's get to the real nutrition that we had every single time, most frequently probably besides peanut butter and jelly sandwich es, which was probably the .

the number one thing. No.

yeah, in south gardena talked about this on twitter and brought me back, man. And I was like, hit me in the face. Beans and weenies. I feel like that was our major disco.

A lot of I try. I tried to, I tried to you, I tried the very things for dinner so that, you know, so you didn't get tired of, you know.

wing stop and .

peace and chicken cake and match potatoes and beans. Winters are another good one.

I mean, good basketball there.

There some. I was, do I do?

I never did. The bins, the bins.

where did so fit in? Where did doctor thunderhill into this .

nutritional? where?

Where is school fit in?

Are you? Are you out .

of your body?

I used to steal your diet. Psy, when there was no other soda left.

when you had to see all the diapered. Pi, because I didn't want you drinking diet peppy.

and we had more showing our basement than what s having .

the frigate ors, I don't remember you guys just soa.

We two. We remember every time you ordered .

that was the deal in georgia. You get two large pieces for .

really too leader.

whatever your choice.

I can large jy get the large .

and you get a free two leader.

Rather, I could you, than I thought with the dog for a crush. Travel is which more into milk. And Jason drink a lot of water.

Yes, nice. You heard IT pizza and hockey guys that i'll get you. The f fell right there.

What was good food? I am says.

still a banger.

I eat uncritical les, every single game day, at least like five of them. It's ridiculous. That is one of the one of the snacks in the lack of pre game in middle the game .

sports science .

and is so good.

What do the people listening need to know about nfl are being a parent of an nfl player?

You can think unique that you can think of.

I, I don't know so unique, I would. I'm sure people for the same thing from a lot, lot for any of players, you got to, you GTA support them. You you actually nothing you can do to to choose their they are boost that that just a Bruce eagles but are hurt feelings and miserable. If you lose a game, you feel like, you know you kid you lose a game.

okay.

you go home, you gives them that preference. Nobody with with guys in me and file, there's nothing you can do except you just be there. You know how you feel, hope you know, that's that's one of the things you've had to be prepared for, because you are totally powerless.

That in that regard, I GTA tell .

you the other thing, be very thankful they have good friends and and you guys both have good, good friends, not just on the team.

I do preciate you recognizing our friends growing up in clever heights. I love telling everybody about the multicultural, the difference in social class, the difference in race um and how tightened of a community and really is and how everybody to support each other.

I got such a great understanding of a lot of different walks of life because my upbringing, because how much you guys accepted everyone in the community just as much as they accept at us. And i'm still close with all my friends today. I'm big believer they've helped me, you know, become who I am just as much as anybody else. I'm glad you.

i'm glad you said that we got to get the Kelsey family secrets. Is IT Kelsey secrets or is that cell family secrets? Why in the world did you change your name? I don't.

Nowhere and nowhere else to nowhere OK. Well.

let's talk about IT. why? Why did? Why did we think that our name is Kelsey for the first? how? How long time?

Twenty four years, twenty five.

twenty years, twenty five years, twenty seven years of my life, twenty five trap. I got turn .

of of of correcting people.

It's good a reason to stop. Yeah, it's good as effort. So you change your entire family's name over generation because you were tired of correcting people.

I'm like a living.

Kelsey has a nice time out, though that doesn't explain why we thought I was. Kelsey, like I could understand. You've got .

tired of correcting people.

so you .

like whatever. Why I never your mother thought was elsey.

Why did you think I was healthy?

Because I was a day that I would buy at work. That was my word name, right? everybody. I worked the then I define the screw to do that, my dad, we get calls, or we call in to get extra workers in our Jerry cup. And he would always say, just Kelsey .

got anything for me, got IT. Should we go by?

Kellor keli do what everyone I did.

It's .

about fair. I'm a go by bill about that.

Fuck go. My si don't call me cause another inside the Kelsey severance seeker we got to get to is why were you trying so hard to communicate with aliens?

I had you though the internet was such a great thing, because suddenly I could reach stuff about anything and everything. And I come across the story about setting the search for extra terrestrial .

intelligently ligang.

yes. And they were intelligence. They were basically, they go, you saw the movie counts after, right? Was just for, well, to get the erased scope, the the audio telescope dishes, trying to hear stuff gone out out another space.

So these guys saw a movie and decided to do just that.

Vie o OK. Okay, they enjoy this. Are they just us listing? And there's a lot of noise coming from space, a long nose that most IT. Is there a lot of White nose, a lot of stuff that is just random .

shit when resisting, resisting about the big day.

You I don't know, I shouldn't .

I have this that whatever .

I yeah you .

city would would .

get would get people that would donate your computer time when they were used in a computer because they might have, you know, a thousand computers hooked up in their network. Because I shine down to our network and with the bed and and the overnight, they will be using the computing power of a boat load of network computers to analyze the noise coming from space. And IT was, this is just all math calculations. This where .

IT was 他。

So every night.

only during the night, they were recording sounds.

recording sounds, no recording sounds, all alone. But to take the recording room.

every time I was into that room at night, I was recording the sounds coming out of that room.

No, no, no. I said they were recording sounds from space. What they were doing every night hearing those .

as I was a teenager.

That did they ever call you and say, hey, we're done using your computer for data because all we're getting form your computer is fucked and virus after virus. This is IT is getting is screwing up our database.

And no, no, nothing like that was said because computers get so computers got so powerful, so quick, they had too many. They didn't need my computing power and life. She's math. The math coming out of these phones catch.

So what was the plan if you heard like somebody, oh, i'm an alien.

Did you call Sally like go? What the focus .

that did you hear that did .

you hear about that? Gotta know. Did they have a logue that I told you exactly what they thought I was that .

would there would be? No, there's nothing that I ever heard. I'm not ever question anybody, but they were always going to a every morning or every every third or force morning you will get an an, uh, an email in which I, you will hero what your computer gentle last couple notes worked on this sound coming from, who's that watch IT? And yeah, we did anybody.

When was the last time you stole music from the library?

This is what saying you and Jason are the exact same person because Jason actually did this with our x box when x box three sixty came out the original x box that we had. Jason and I think there's no no plane, no went .

and we what reprogramed the .

x box so that you can actually download games onto the hard drive? yeah. So so Jason took your method of going in taking library cds, but his method was go to black bosch and get all the video games, a black busters and download them onto. So we were playing games that we didn't even know we had, but we were running for.

Are you .

snitching .

twenty five? What on?

Dad, I didn't lend.

Everybody know you two are the same exact for person.

what? Dad, IT wasn't illegal. Taxi pay for that for what I did go to about that.

And I was going in getting getting cvs that were albums I had already purchased.

All of there's no chats. There's no chats.

All those are you talking about?

You at some point .

about that much.

you're saying so good. You're saying at some point in life you had purchased and at some point or you're .

saying you purchase a yeah why .

do you think aliens are on earth right now? Are.

are do we have .

alien DNA .

within us, you think who is smarter .

between travel's?

No way. no.

Way .

the .

world. Have you change .

your mind because you hit the night?

I know what you talking .

about.

Talk in the two.

Now we got treason and liars .

and family. Gene dad told jay and I was way smarter than him.

and he did all because you put together a legal set.

This is true. This, and I don't need instructions. All right, all right, just show, just show me the.

the.

just give me a picture. I could write my own directions, but I I got no, I, before we hit the answer, I got to ask you one question. It's about the the Kelsey sports complex that we grew up in our house.

What is your favorite house? Recking story like the story like breaking something in the house. One of us doing something that you had then, you know, when you sold IT had a fix up the house to be able .

to sell IT. What's your favorite one? Ver, one of things, I remember them all.

There are two, there are two broken windows stories. I will never forget. What is this coming into this consider house with a cross? C IT goes a driver shot with a couch was out.

I was going behind .

the back shot, didn't the window and the solar? You want to score you to work hard?

The other .

one was, was. And I still can't believe I felt for this hooker line and sinker. I go up into the living, I go into the computer room, and the vacation is in the computer, and I trave because I know he's done something.

And he says to me, he says, I was reading a bag of chips up there and not lodge by the computer. So I cleaned up week later. I go to put something into the back in computer.

There's okay. I don't think I want to held that. It's like a light goes off glass back here, back you over there. Open the lunch is a window. Tell, tell you, how are .

you .

this kids Better? This kids Better to Better then the drivers comes up and says, yeah, and I broke the window. So how did you break the window? You said, well, I was going to throw the football over the house .

like you now wasn't the football pops you? Oh, this is what I was. I told you to.

You told me that line. And I think, and you know not much I can do because he's trying to, mike, what I did because, you know, a few weeks earlier, fool, are you our favorite .

things .

to do? And fool the house, try to throw the football over the house, the window. Now we fast forward. You guys are both the uc Jason last year and no Jason maybe maybe even be in the league that he's come back to White travis last season.

And I tell me this story, but I try to sort the football over the house, trained to mimic me. And you guys both take later at me and then travel us. No, I was an either. So I daily and I were trying to hit golf balls over the house of baseball bat.

and I set up fucking line drive rocket right into the computer room window.

This brings up a question that maybe you will, who was more honest between travis and I, who.

You are. You would, and that started at a very Young age. You would tell the truth no matter what. And you can trouble for a picture, still tell the truth. We would sit on the travis would sit on the countertop with the cookie, jero and chocolate chips spread all over space, holding a cooking around .

and cookies. Who was, who was a Better student, who I was.

say this, j.

Jason was a Better student .

who more .

well behaved, who is more well.

this is not true.

Though just about that, he was, he like action .

to show the school, but he would do something wrong and then argue with whoever was complaining at school. That's right. Travel will get caught doing something wrong. And he, i'm sorry, must be, I should have never did that.

Look at these puppies. G guys, i'm all over a tiktok.

Don't suspend me. I got nothing else. Pops, last question, what was more memorable? Our birth, our draft day or our first super table that we both have?

Your it's not even close.

I mean, it's a site, I mean .

like going on there.

Visually have been .

it's burned in the your head? No, no. It's exciting, is unnecessarily something that you're looking at.

It's something you're experiencing in a brand child.

And you know that you got a new final thoughts.

Do you have any questions for us? Women, actually.

questions holds up. You have any questions for us.

You don't want to know which parent we love more?

No.

so I forgot that, mom, this because that I know mom loved you more is I got sketchers and you always got.

no, no, just got those sketch for me too. I just pote as to take those back.

Yeah, that's the travis is always try. Travis is into fashion very old age. Jason didn't give a ship what you have on. And as always, you can get out of the .

house I use.

What number jersey is that you're you on?

I wonder who is for? I wonder who is room for.

No, we can see the back. We can see the back. We don't play for the name back. We play for the name on the .

front that I like that both parents have your name on the front. New jersey have the friend. There is this.

we see the six alleged war sixty college. I were ever eighteen.

What do you thought on bread balls? Is wolfer house a dinner water house?

no.

A warehouse?

no. Knew that I would be holder .

know that people don't understand art. My most vivid memory of you growing up was you sitting in front of the living room, whatever night IT was that jeff tty came on and might have been every fuck at night, i'm not even sure. But you would sit there and you would house about, I want, I want to say, roughly between a and fifteen and thirty buffalo wings.

You have half gallon of blue cheese, and you would do this, the tire time IT dst in sweat, locked in on the, on the TV, and just rabbit fire. Answer, answer, answer, answer. And you would be sweating bullets, as I said. And I was like, why is sweating? And then I grew up, and I started two wings like that in the, and I started sweating and I realized .

it's a Kelsey thing. Our are .

bonus wings, chicken wings.

no.

What are they?

The process made to squeak the good of party?

Um jeopardy answer to jeopardy answer yeah you .

forgot to answer IT in the form .

of a question that is wrong. next.

What are going to chicken? What are ground up chicken lizard and guts?

They call that gain the city ji kens budi. Well, I got one more question for you. Biga is a Cathy boll is one well enough or do we need we need to run the same back next year talking about do we need to run the same back next year?

Come on. How fun was this year? We should .

do this again.

You hate to add.

I hate to add about next year. Man, it's been a fun ride. This for .

sure. pops. We love you.

Thank you. Thank you. I ve you guys.

and to everybody out there we appreciate you guys tune and in jesson's officially playing next year to see if we can do this again. Um I can't wait .

that about wraps up the very special Kelly uh episode die uh with both of our parents of new heights thank you mom and dad for bull staring by dad thank you again.

Thank guys and and .

thank you good morning amErica for features this episode of new heights how about that?

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