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2025/6/18
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Travis Kelce: Reese's 创造了完美的巧克力和花生酱组合。巧克力外壳和奶油花生酱中心是绝配,让人爱不释手。 Jason Kelce: 我建议把 Reese's 放在冰箱里冷藏,这样巧克力会更美味。但要藏好,别让 Ed Kelce 在凌晨三点偷吃。

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I never got any advice on sex from Dad. We never had the birds and the bees talk. No, we didn't. No, we didn't. I did not know how to talk to girls. You were awkward. You were uncomfortable. Jesus Christ, I wasn't going to say that. I was uncomfortable? You were a little uncomfortable. Yeah.

It was AOL Messenger. Who was it? What about it was awkward? Jason, I used to eavesdrop in on your conversations on the phone. You remember when you told me to... No, we can't do this. We gotta take that out. We can't do this. We can't do this.

Welcome back to New Heights, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls. A wondrous show produced by Wave Sports and Entertainment and brought to you by Zillow. Everyone's favorite real estate app. Download the app today. We're your hosts. I'm Travis Kelsey, my big brother, Jason Kelsey. Out of Cleveland Heights, Ohio.

Cincinnati Bearcat alumni, shout out to the Cincinnati Bearcats opening up a new indoor. Subscribe on YouTube, Wondery Plus, wherever you get your podcasts and follow the show on all social media at New Heights Show with one S. Jason, tell the lovely 92%ers what we got coming up. We got another great episode for you guys. First, we're going to try to decide the next movie for New Heights Film Club. We're also going to look at some wild fan mentions as well as get some fatherly advice. Advice.

Vice. From the one and only Ed Kelsey. That's right, Ed Kelsey's joining us for a little Father's Day special. Yeah, let's get right to it. Let's start with some of that news. News.

New News is brought to you by Nickelodeon's Kid Choice Awards. What? The party of summer slime. Tune in this Saturday, June 21st at 8, 7 Central, live on Nickelodeon. All right, man. How about that? I'm tuned in. You better have the girls watching. I'm sure they're going to be pumped to see who the next male athlete of the year is. All righty. You can still vote for New Heights.

For favorite podcast and Travis for favorite male athlete of the year. We need that blimp, guys. I don't know if you're aware. I do not have a blimp. Travis has many blimps, but I would love a blimp.

Blimps are awesome, especially when they have the word Nickelodeon tattooed across them in their orange. They're going to be tattooed. Last new news item, weird recording schedule this month. Travis will be at mini camp and tight on you. I'm going to be doing stuff down the shore. We got beer bowl. I have a golf outing coming up. We got a bunch of things happening. We got shit going on. It's going to be hard to get together. We do have some recorded guests that we think you guys will really look forward to. Oh, you guys are going to love these guys. That's right. That's right. Looking forward to dropping those here in the next coming weeks.

And that's it for new news. New news is brought to you by Nickelodeon's Kids Choice Award, the party of summer slime. Yeah, baby. This Saturday, June 21st at 8, 7 central, live on Nickelodeon. Yes, sir. Let's move along to some fan mentions. We had some wild, wild mentions this week, but my favorite mention came with this beautiful tattoo of Jason's bald eagles.

this is wild i don't really wow this is this is i mean this is this is somebody art right here how does somebody come up with this the socks the socks and cleats into the elbow pads and gloves what's even do you wear this for kylie at home

Is there a picture of you like this? Because this is, I mean, if you're ever in this stance, I would imagine this is what you look like. Just so confused on how this is a thing. What do you mean? Okay, let's click this link for the backstory. Because I don't know how one ends up with a tattoo like this. Here's the backstory from Erica Smith dot educates. Okay, we have an educator here.

Meanwhile, I want to know what incredible person got this tattoo. Hello. And then my little man. Oh, seven. Funny story. I am a Giants fan. My husband is an Eagles fan. We made a bet. I lost. Welcome to pin up Jason. We're not going to go.

To Joe for this. Oh my gosh. This story makes it even better. Oh my God. From the educator herself, Erica. This is absolutely hilarious. So this is pin up Jason. So a woman lost a bet. Yep. Because she's a Giants fan. That's amazing. Yeah. And she's a woman of her word. I guess. Do we know that it's a woman? How do we know? I thought Kylie told me it was a woman and her name was Lauren. Oh God. Kylie's got...

Kylie's all over this. She was like, what in the fuck is this? Yeah, she wants to see Pin Up Jason herself. You should just... Trust me, she does not want to see Pin Up Jason. One night, you should just... Should I roll into the bedroom like this? Throw on the elbow pads. Throw on my game socks, my elbow pads, go to the facilities and get my hands and wrist tape, put the gloves on. Oh, you know what this is probably a reference to is your ESPN body mag. Oh, nice.

I mean, I didn't look like this there. But you did have the bald eagle over your... I did have a bald eagle in that ESPN body mag. I forgot about that. Yeah.

That's a very good point. How could anybody forget? The entire starting five. Yeah. The whole line added. Sometimes you block things out that you're not interested in thinking about. Oh, I know. Oh, I know. I mean, listen, I love a good bet. That is a hell of a payoff. Like, she has to walk around with that for the rest of her life. Yeah. I mean...

I think it's great. I guess it's not that bad. Would you ever get this tattoo? I mean, if I lost a bet, I would have to. What would be the Travis Kelsey version of this? What? What do you mean? Like if somebody was going to make a provocative Travis Kelsey, you obviously wouldn't have a bird. What would you have? I don't know. Let's leave it to the 92% because I don't want to talk about that.

Pin up Travis? God damn it, Jason. Why'd you throw me under the bus? I don't know. This is your world. If I'm having pictures made of this, if I'm having pictures of me made like this, you need to have pictures of you made like this.

It's not fair. Hey! There we go. There we go. I wish I had shoulders like that. All right. What's his appendage? Is it a dream catcher? Is it a bald eagle? Arrowhead? Sharp and pointy?

Do you hear my kids just losing their mind? Why would I hear that? I think Elliot needs help. I'm going to, can I go help Elliot real quick before she loses her mind? Do your thing, man. Yeah. All right. Now that about does it for the fan mentions of the week. Yeah. Nice pecker, Jason.

Moving on to some New Heights Film Club. Hey! Back into the film club. New Heights Film Club is brought to you by Reese's and their new PB&J Cups. Yeah! We're going to have one last installment of the New Heights Film Club before we wrap up this season. And we will have you guys vote on which of these four films...

we will be reviewing. But first, we need to pick a genre. That's right. We need to figure out what genre we're going to go for. Do we want to do summer blockbusters? Maybe just one of our favorites, Adam Sandler. Do some Sandler films in honor of Happy Gilmore coming out in July. We can do some summer scaries. You guys want to

Do some scary movies. Get into some horror films or just some movies that give you fucking nightmares. Scary movies are fun to revisit because they're absurd.

Oh, yeah. Especially the older ones? Yeah. Like, they don't make any sense. Like, why? Like, just half of them are not even relevant anymore because of technology. Like, they'd be so easily solved in, like, today's age with phones and whatnot. I forget what movie this was, man. But it was about a giant, like, flock of giant mosquitoes. Hmm.

I know exactly. I forget the name of the movie. Well, the giant mosquitoes was just Jumanji. No, no, no. But there was a movie. This goes way back before Jumanji. Before Jumanji? You're talking about Birds? The Alfred Hitchcock movie? It might be. I don't know. Because the only other giant insects movie, there was another one, but it was like a giant spider. There was...

Skeeter? That's a movie? Dude, that's a mosquito. It might be it, dude. Yeah, it was literally the biggest fucking mosquitoes ever. It used to scare the living shit out of me. This is it, dude. Dude.

But that's the thing. These movies are so fucking ridiculous. This shit used to give me fucking nightmares, dude. I'm kind of in on an obscure film that a lot of people haven't seen. I like indie films and stuff that's just kind of off the...

You ever seen Bird Box? Bird Box is good. Yeah, Sandra. Completely ridiculous. There were two movies where the people couldn't see, and I just could not bring myself. Bird Box, it was a fun watch, but it's so ridiculous. You can't see anything, and you're going to get all this like, get the fuck out of here. I'm not buying it. And then the one that was even worse, I think it was C, I think it was an Apple TV. Oh, it was still a good watch. It can't be bad. It was horrendous.

this they're running through the woods traps I challenge you right now blindfold yourself and run through the fucking woods you will not make it further than about 20 feet all right no I'll figure it out you are gonna hit something somebody thought of this idea like it was good and I thought it was the worst fucking thing on the planet it was the stupid it was I couldn't do it I don't know why it was awful it was a awful show it was really really bad I don't even know which one you're talking about so I'm gonna see yeah but I couldn't see but they somehow could still run through the forest

All right, so what do we want to do? Do you want to go down scaries? Do you want to do Sandler films? Do we want to just leave it up to the 92 percenters? This is what I think. Our most successful and fan-appreciated versions of these, just going to put it out there, have been either movies that females typically watch or movies that need to be reimagined in like a grown-up capacity. Like Sandlot was okay, but we didn't really –

It didn't have like a lot of like changes from the last time we've seen it. I think we need to watch something that we haven't, we both have not seen potentially ever. And a movie that is really popular that a lot of other people have seen, but we need to watch it where most people saw it as a child. And we are now seeing it as fully developed adults. So as long as the movie meets that criteria, I'm in on it. Yeah. Well, good luck meeting all that criteria. Yeah.

Does that make sense, Brandon? No, it makes all the sense in the world. What you're saying definitely makes sense, but I just don't know. Yeah, I don't have that movie off the top of my head. We're going to have to somehow create a genre. Well, let's look at movies that were big in the 90s that Travis and I just haven't seen. 90s rated R blockbusters is kind of the search here. There you go.

That's a start. It's a start. It's a start. Animal House is one. I think that was more 80s, though. I mean, they're throwing us Terminator 2, Matrix, Pretty Woman, The Rock is so fun. I mean, I don't think I've seen Pretty Woman. Oh.

That could be it. I think that one would be big. Pretty Woman would be big for us. People would appreciate that review, I think. Pretty Woman would be big for us. Pretty Woman. I think I actually saw this not too long ago. I think I have seen it, but I can't remember it. It's been a minute. Goodfellas is a great one. Goodfellas would be a great recap, especially living on the East Coast now. Jerry Maguire, that's kind of interesting as a professional athlete. The Bodyguard, meh. Speed is so good. Speed.

Speed is a ridiculous movie. Dude, honestly, we should review Tremors if we're going to go with a movie that's like a horror, but I've already seen them. Total Recall, great movie. Fantastic movie. Yeah, yeah. But we've seen it. It doesn't meet the criteria. I'm kind of in on Pretty Woman being one of the choices. All right, so Pretty Woman's one. Pretty Woman's one. Dude, 90s teenage movies. 90s teenage movies. Clue.

Clueless. No, no, thank you. I mean, I've seen it. 10 things I hate about you. The American Pie would be fucking hilarious. The American Pie would be funny to go back. Now getting half of the references. Okay. Pretty woman. She's all that is. I'd go back to that one. I fucking love that movie. Wild things. Remember sneak into that one. I need pictures with these. I don't.

I'm the worst. I don't remember any of these. Faculty's good. All right. We've got one so far. What about Wild Wild West? I mean, I don't like that people don't like that movie. I fucking love that movie. I think it's secretly a great movie that people have just decided to shit on. But you got to admit, it's like such a dud after I think like the two previous Will Smiths were Men in Black and Independence Day. You got to admit that's like a

little bit of a drop. Of course. But it's... Here's my thing. I think if you... You don't cheat on Jim Carrey for making the mask in fucking Ace Ventura's. This is my only argument. If you remade Wild Wild West... And then go... If you... If Quentin Tarantino remade Wild Wild West, it'd be a fucking banger of a movie. Quentin Tarantino's Wild Wild West would be so fucking... I'm not buying this like it's a bad plot. Like, robots fucking... Like, I think the whole thing is fucking... Like, it's ridiculous. I...

I know there's a guy with no legs. There's a giant spider. I vaguely recall there's like a chase in a cornfield. I mean, it's what I like about movies. It's completely ridiculous. Do you want to add Wild Wild West to the list? I mean, I'm kind of feeling like it. There's two.

It does not meet the criteria I laid out. Oh my, your criteria is... Nobody knows what criteria. Yeah, we're going to be here for the rest of the night. Thread this needle. I kind of like throwing a bunch of just like randoms in there and like letting the 92 percenters dictate it. Should we just put the tweet out? Let's just put the tweet out. Okay. The criteria is Travis and I can never have seen it.

How would they know this? They don't. We're going to get replies, though, and there's going to be some that we haven't seen. All right. Jake, are you taking notes? It's got to be a movie that we haven't seen. Haven't seen. It's got to be... What was the other criteria? It had to be, like, from your childhood, so people haven't seen it in a very long time, was the other criteria. It's got to be, like, a movie that is child-centric, that a lot of people have not seen since they were children. Okay. But...

All right. Or do you not like that criteria? We can throw that criteria out. Not everybody was a child when we were a child. Those people don't count. Those people don't count. We don't count them. There's movies like Brink that were watched by exclusively children at the time. Like grownups were not watching Brink. Brink would probably be a tough watch. Brink's a great movie. It's one of the only Disney movies that has held up. Brink is fantastic. Okay. Pup and Suds, are you kidding me?

Should we just do Brink? No. Should we just do Disney made for TV movies from the 90s? We could do that. That's going to get a lot of people going. Where are we netting out here? I don't know. I don't know. I kind of like the idea of just asking the 92%ers to submit

Movies and the rule is we can't have seen it. That leaves it vague enough. Just give us movies that you think would be funny to have us review. Give us movies. We will decide on this end and we will let you know which one we pick. Do you like that idea, Travis, or do you not like that idea? Yeah, let's do it. We got Travis in. All right. You guys send us ideas. We'll go through them. We'll pick one and we'll let you guys know what the pick is for July Film Club. Jason, is there any more criteria you want?

I don't think so. I think that makes sense. I think the idea of reviewing a movie that was mostly seen as people as kids, as adults, sounds interesting to me because you watch it under a different lens. And most people are going to remember it from their time as children. Yeah. Could also just do Brink. I don't know. I kind of like that idea. Puppin Suds? Could do Brink. We mentioned Pretty Woman. That's been on me and Tay's movie list for a while. I'm down to watch that.

A movie I think is very underrated, Wild Wild West. I fucking love Wild Wild West and Wild Wild West 2. There's Wild Wild West 2? Yeah. There's not a second Wild Wild West.

Fuck yeah. Is his real? You kidding me? I think the second one's got Owen Wilson in it or something. I forget which one is which. Are you thinking of the movie with Jackie Chan where him and Owen Wilson are... Shanghai Nights. Shanghai Nights. I might have been. God damn it. I thought there were two Wabba Wiss. Oh shit, there is. Oh wait, no. I think that's just Wabba Wiss.

Yeah, you're right. Top question on Reddit. Wasn't there a Wild Wild West 2? Was there not? The literal answer is, realize we were thinking of Shanghai Noon. Shanghai Noon. Oh, gosh. Oh, my gosh. That is fucking... How many people think Shanghai Noon is just a sequel to Wild Wild West? What?

Dude, Shanghai Noon, also a good-ass movie. That one, I wouldn't mind reviewing Shanghai Noon. I don't remember it as well as I think. I just remember he pees on his shirt to bend the bars. Fuck. Oh, man. There might have been two Shanghai Noons. You said this shirt doesn't break, not piss shirt bend bars. How do you remember this?

I'm a big Jackie Chan fan. Dude, we could even just do like some Jackie Chan movies. Have you ever... What's the one that's fucking...

Not Escape from New York. There's another one. Rush Hour? What do you mean? No, no, no, no. There's so many good Jackie Chan movies. That is rookie, rookie Jackie Chan. You got Drunken Master. You got, you got, oh my gosh, what is the movie where they're running around New York and it's fucking insane. Oh, it's so ridiculous of a movie. Gosh, you're making me want to, all right, here, let's just, let's just get out of this. Big Trouble in Little China. Is that it? Most absurd Jackie Chan movie.

That's what you're typing in. I do love Drunken Master. Drunken Master is a great one. Rumble in the Bronx. All right. So basically, 92%ers, there's really no criteria. We don't necessarily know exactly what you guys want us to review. So we just want a little bit of a reference so we can start to narrow this thing down. Send in all your requests. We'll peek over them and get back to you guys with which movie the New Heights Film Club will review.

And that does it for New Heights Film Club, brought to you by Reese's and their new PB&J cups. All right, before we get to Papa Kelsey, there's something we need to disclose. He's from a different time and era, people. Viewer discretion is advised. We don't know what this fucking guy's about to say. I mean, I just got to be honest with you. He's an old wild card. He is one of the nicest, most genuine people on the planet. Not a negative bone in his body. It's just...

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I didn't know that's what it was called, but yes. So get ready for an amazing night. That's right. Filled with a musical performance by Cat's Eye, appearances from Tony Hawk, Ice Spice, Owly, Cravalho,

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Go vote. Do it. Jason wants a blimp. Jason, he's never gotten one. He hasn't been cool enough. He hasn't been cool enough yet. So I was nominated for male athlete. Favorite male athlete. If I'm your favorite, please go nominate me. And that'll be my second...

you're going to go and nominate us first. But tune in this Saturday, June 21st at 8 Eastern, 5 Pacific, only on Nickelodeon. That's right. Don't miss the Kids' Choice Awards hosted by the one and only Tyler. All right, Father's Day was this past Sunday. So we're bringing the only man who can help us out with some Heights Hotline Father's Day content.

Shout out to Twitter user Eva G for coming up with the name Edvice. Eva G on Twitter. Will this be on a regular episode or just a Wondery Plus episode? I would love some Edvice. Nice, father. Edvice from Ed Kelsey live from Not Gonna Lie Studios. We have Ed Kelsey joining us. Dad, how we doing? We're doing great.

We're doing great. We're doing great. Good shirt choice. Appreciate your. Shout out to Kai for getting us nice and set up. Dad, you look great. Good. You got the wings going. I should take my hat off and get my wings showing a little bit. Jason, you just got the. You talking about the longer hair? These are like the wings from the flying nun. The flying nun. I don't.

I don't know that reference. That must have been an 80s or 70s reference right there. What's the flying nun? More like 65, 64. Sally Field was a nun, and she wore one of those hats with the wings, and the wind would come by and lift her in the air. Oh, wow. Oh! Whoa!

The Flying Nun. Now we get it. Wow. There you go. Did she invent the cookies? Is that Sally Fields? What's the cookie I'm thinking of? Famous Amos? No, Mrs. Fields. No, she did not make Mrs. Fields cookies. Okay. All right. Sorry. All right. We've gone down a rabbit hole already. All right.

I guess, where do we start? Dad, what do you think of Father's Day? Let's start off with there. What do I think of it? Yeah. What are your thoughts on Father's Day? My thoughts on Father's Day is a celebration of your kids. Yeah. Oh, all right. All right. And how happy you are. Nice. I'll celebrate to that. And what a great job you did as a dad. Yeah. There you go. Or doing, right? There's still this. Do you ever stop being a dad? Do you consider yourself dad still? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

How much easier is you two seconds ago into getting your ass in there to see a doctor about your sleep apnea? I'm not going into a doctor. They don't know what they're doing. What are you?

How is being a dad different at this stage as opposed to being a dad when we were like Wyatt Bennett's and Elliot's age? And Finn. Sorry, Finn. A lot more relaxing. At this stage, everything's just a lot of fun. Less work. You're not fretting about...

How they're doing in school, how they're treating teammates, how things are going in the neighborhood with them, how much trouble they got into that can be directly tracked back to you. What are you fret about these days between Travis and I? Between Travis and you, not much. Not much? I think you're doing great. Yes. So you do think that Father's Day is a real holiday. Jason, do you think Father's Day is a real holiday? I think Father's Day is...

I think, yes, first of all, it's a real holiday. Anybody, anything that celebrates parents and family and raising children in this world should absolutely be celebrated. Okay. I think that Father's Day and Mother's Day is celebrated across every nationality in some way. Actually, there's a really good way that the Germans celebrate. We mentioned this last year on the podcast.

I'd love to do this with dad one day. You know how Germans celebrate Father's Day, Pop? No, tell me. The family drops them off at like a woods and they have a wagon that is filled with beer and different types of meats and sausages. And the dads just wander up into the mountains with a bunch of beer and sausages and they hang out together for a day. Yeah.

And then they come back to meet their families afterwards. I'll tell you what. That sounds pretty fun. We can wander back to the pool and do the same thing. There we go. Perfect. There we go. We'll just get a wagon and ceremony and walk out backyard. Yeah.

Dad, mom's in Traders. What? No, we can't say this. Oh, it's already, it's public. It's public. Rumored, rumored, rumored. What? It's public now? It's public. Allegedly. I was lectured by your mother not to talk about it. Okay, well, can we record something for when we can say this? What do you think are mom's chances?

Chances of what? Of winning. Do you understand? I have no idea what she's doing. So this is the premise of this. It's a game show. It takes place in Scotland. Basically, there's a group of people, and there's two people in that group, or a select amount of people, are traitors, which are people that can eliminate other people week by week. And the group of individuals that aren't the traitors necessarily

need to try and devise who the traitors are before the traitors eliminate all of the non-traitor contestants. What? I'm sorry. All right, perfect. So what do you think mom's chances are of winning such game show? I haven't got a fucking clue. Don't know? Okay. I don't know. I'm not a reality TV person.

show type person that's not true you used to love uh what's that what were the history ones what was the one where they used to bid on the the freaking storage wars storage wars you so you were big storage wars never saw that in my life i never saw i mean i've seen it on tv but i haven't sat down and storage wars i used to sit there and watch um what's the well we watched the two guys we watched the two guys that went around hunting for junk

Yep. The American Pickers. American Pickers. There you go. Then you used to watch the Vegas one with the Chumlee. What's the... Oh, the Vegas... Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So don't give me this. Don't give me this. You're not a reality TV guy. Pawn Stars. Pawn Stars. Well, I don't... Don't act like you're above reality TV. You used to sit down and watch Jackass with us. Yeah. What? As I recall, I was pretty much... Pretty much...

adamantly opposed to jackass. Yeah, no, I think that's accurate. I'm pretty sure. Oh, man. But you were missing out. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Your loss. I want to get Ed Kastley's reaction to this photo. All right. Brandon, you know exactly what photo I'm talking about. I have no idea what photo, so you're going to get my reaction, too. No, I'm going...

Did somebody actually do that? This is tattooed on a woman. I think her name is Lauren's arm. Yeah. No, this is a bet that somebody lost, and they have this tattooed permanently under their forearm. Permanently? That's not a henna? I mean, I think you could take them off these days, but no, I think that's an actual tattoo. Oh, what do you think? Immediate reactions. Immediate reaction? Yeah. Fucking loony. Yeah.

You know, what else can I say? This is... It's provocative. I saw that on social media, and that's a cringeworthy. Cringe? Even without it being on somebody's arm, just the picture itself. I've never heard you use the word cringe, so this is a new territory. I think it's pretty accurate. I've never seen anything that...

Well, it's made you feel like that, huh? Yeah, that's right. I think I don't think I look half bad if I'm being honest. I think it's a pretty they did me a solid. This might be the best you've ever looked. You could take that off the screen now. I have to ask Kai that one, though. All right. Let's get to some Heights Hotline, man. Let's get to the fun stuff, baby. We're going to listen to some voicemails, Dad, that our viewers and listeners have sent us.

asking for parents advice and normally travis and i answer them but we always wish you were here to do this because we know you would answer them far better than we can yeah this one is titled unwritten rules with dad hey jason hey travis huge fan of the show my question my no dumb question is what was like an unwritten rule you had with your dad growing up

One of my unwritten rules I had always with my dad was when I'd be in the car with him, it would be nothing but his music he loved, 70s, 80s rock, 90s rock. Sounds like a good dad. And we always watched football games together. And that was like our big, like two big unwritten rules was that. I hope you have a good day.

Go Steelers. Oh, there we go. Go Steelers. The Yinzer action. We didn't have any written rules. They were all unwritten. I only remember one, but it was literally a rule that he told me was, but he only told me once. It was, you got to be home before the streetlights come on. That was the only like unwritten rule. That's a rule that dates back to the 60s, at least. Since streetlights were a thing. Yeah.

Did you write down any rules? I don't remember any written rules. Oh, I don't know about any written. No, no. I think they were all unwritten, but there are tons of rules. Yeah. Don't talk back to your mom. Finish your food at the table. Finish what you're eating. Yep. There's starving kids in China. Don't hit your brother in the face.

No punches to the head. Can we still use their starving children in China? Is that still an acceptable way to get children to eat food? I think that's to each his own, Jason. I don't know. I kind of gave up on that one. The fact of the matter is I waited all these years for you and Travis to come back with Aunt Judy's retort. What was Aunt Judy's? Well, if they were here, they could have my food. Ha ha ha!

That's not good. Leave it to Ed Judy. All right. What were some other Ed Kelsey rules? If you run, it's only going to be worse. I remember that one. Yeah. Come here. If you run, it's only going to be worse. I don't know. I'm drawing a blank here. Yeah, that's pretty good. I think it was more situational. The rules came up where there was a situation that demanded it. There was the golden rule.

which kind of everything else fit within the golden rule. Then there was respect your teachers, your... Yeah, the elders in the room. Yeah, but there was another level for either teachers, educators, or people that were older than you, which I felt like if we ever... Respect your elders, yeah. Yeah, if we ever came back in one of the older...

just parents or anybody was saying something and you were like, all right, that's enough of that. Like, I feel like that was a big one. And that wasn't always easy to say. And I, and the reason I mentioned it as you know, how many of those parents or elders were just full of shit. Yeah, I know. But you're just trying to keep your kid quiet and get out of there. Yeah. But the chances are your kid is full of more shit than the, the elders are right now. Oh no. Sadly. Yeah.

And that's something you'll come to realize. All right. Fair enough. As the girls get older. All right. Your time is not so much keeping your kids in line as it is deflecting criticism and rolling your eyes in front of the frigging idiots. Okay. All right. Wonderfully said. Love that. What were your rules as far as like sports went? No I in team. Yep. Yep.

You're never as good as they say. You're also never as bad as they say. Yeah. Ignore what people say. Yep. Hard work and hustle beats talent. Always has, always will. I don't know if you did it on purpose or if it was just the athletes that you genuinely appreciated most, but you would always point out the athletes that were –

besides the ones that were really good and had personalities. I remember you love Charles Barkley. We've been on that multiple times. Always been a big fan of Chuck. You'd always point out like the guys that like ran hard or hustled, like Pete Rose and like different. Sure. We were watching games. It was like, yeah, it was always like athletes that like either were intense or gave above and beyond like effort. I remember that was one thing that you always. Defied the odds. Yeah. Never stopped tracking that ball.

Things like that, sure. I think we can hit the next one. Irrational Mad Dad Moment is this title. Hey, guys. This is Zach. I wanted to talk to you about Father's Day and it coming up soon. And it made me think of times that my dad got irrationally mad at us. And I wanted to know if there was any time Papa Kelsey got mad

irrationally mad over something little like i remember our big one at home was dad got mad at us because the toothpaste was in the downstairs bathroom not the upstairs bathroom we got like a five minute lecture about it he's yelling and screaming anyway that does feel a little bit irrational you guys had a similar experience with your dad or maybe jason

Can you admit you having yourself an irrational mad dad moment? Oh, absolutely. All right, thanks. Bye. I don't ever remember dad being irrational. I'm pretty sure he was rationally mad. You should have been there when Travis put the hand lotion in the shampoo bottle. I mean, that's pretty rationally bad, though. That was pretty rational. You put some hand lotion on your hair. When you came down the steps and your hair looked like it was glued together, like you had just washed your hair.

Look like Cameron Diaz out of, what is that movie? Fucking ridiculous. I looked at you and I was like, oh shit, what did I do? Yeah, Travis looked at me and boom, he's out of there. Yeah, look like Cameron Diaz from Something About Mary. Surprised he didn't go right through the screen door when he ran away.

I was like, oh, I didn't realize that. And you were late to go to work or you were trying to hurry up and get out the door. Yeah, that was irrational. I feel like most of the times I remember it was pretty rational. Rationally mad was a big one for Ed Kelsey. There was a reason for him to be upset. I'm trying to think of an irrational one. Nothing comes to mind off my head. What do you think, Pop? Do you remember any?

No, I'm drawing a blank. I remember you irrationally. You remember when we were sledding down the hill? This was back when we lived in North Ridgeville. It was me, you, and oh my gosh, the one neighbor. Oh, what was his name? I think it's me and you or us two and you were on one sled and we were headed for a rock. And I still don't know how...

This all went down, but you ended up jumping in front of us on the sled and the rock broke your ribs.

So you're sitting there. Yeah, I broke a couple of ribs. That was. You're screaming in pain. I tried to angle. I remember his name. I remember his name just because I remember this irrational moment from you. We're driving in the car and Billy says something. Billy, that's right. Billy says something to you about driving and you're like, shut the fuck up, Billy. He asked me if I'm okay. He saw me wincing in pain. He asked me, can you drive? I said, shut the fuck up.

That was one of those things where we, I was trying to avoid the rock and we all went over. And to keep from hurting one of you guys, I tucked my elbows in so I would roll over and that's how I broke the ribs. Why didn't you just grab us and roll the other way? I'm trying to envision how this rock was so...

God damn it. That's hilarious. When you have one of those moments, you can ask yourself, why didn't I go the other way? Fair enough. Fair enough. I get irrationally mad all the time. The problem with children is they're irrational. So that causes you to be irrational sometimes. There's a lot of irrational things happening when you're dealing with little kids. All right. Fictional father. Let's go with that one.

Shut the fuck up. Fictional fathers. Okay. You should be good. Hi. This is Lacey from Missouri. And I was just wondering... M.O. ...if Father's Day is coming up, Jason, what fictional father would you say closely... most closely resembles your parenting style and...

I think that's it, actually. Have a good day. Okay, Lacey. Nice. I'll say this. I think my parenting style probably mostly resembles a non-fictional character in my own dad. I think that I definitely...

I find myself being more and more similar to dad in the way I talk and do things with my children. And I think dad, I'm trying to think like, who's the best fictional character that dad is represented by? Is it Red from that 70s show? I feel like he's got a little bit of that. But maybe not as like curmudgeon. He's more supportive of his children. Who's a rough around the edges, but very supportive father? Al Bundy. Al Bundy! You

Oh, my gosh! That is low-key. I mean, he's not supportive of his kids at all. Al Bundy's good. He's got... Yeah, you've got to go with the Hodgepodge. It's got the sense of humor of Al Bundy combined with, like...

Combined with the fatherly nurturing of Huxtable. We can't mention Bill Cosby, unfortunately. But the character was phenomenal on the show. Mr. Huxtable. That's pretty good. I would say it's kind of like that.

What? Do you think that's accurate, Pop? I mean, that's damn good. That's pretty good. Yeah. If you want to go, what's, now I'm drawing, Ed what? What's the guy's name from Married with Children? Ed what? Al Bundy. Al Bundy. No, that was his real name. Oh, you're talking about Modern Family. No, I'm thinking what's his real name? Oh, okay. Ed O'Neill from Youngstown, Ohio, baby. Yeah, played for the Steelers.

He played for the Steelers? Yeah, he did. I think it was only one or two years. If I'm not mistaken, he was a linebacker. I'm not sure. Are you thinking of Jack Lambert? Look it up, dude. Try me. All right. Listen. Brandon, look it up right now. Had a brief stint with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Holy shit.

Well, well done, Dad. And O'Neal, baby. And he's from Youngstown. Four touchdowns. One game. He's from Youngstown? Not one season. No, that was Al Bundy's big game. Polk High. But he did a movie where he went to his girlfriend's house to get her kid who had been disappointed by his real father.

Yes. And he had to get him across town, or not across town, across the country, drive to meet his mother. I forget the name of that movie, but I just remember the kid was having such a fit. He tied the kid's feet.

and legs around a hockey stick and carried them out like a suitcase. That's an NKLC move right there. That's a good one. Ed O'Neill, really in any dad, because he's the grandpa and the dad in Modern Family, and he's very much a similar temperament to him. I didn't know he was from Youngstown, but that makes a ton of sense. Northeast Ohio. Yeah, that's a lot of ties right there. Maybe that's why we got so much...

One of my favorite things ever in the house, and all my friends still say this to this day, is there was never like any, like, come downstairs, talk to the guys, let them know you can't do that. It was just a scream from the second floor office. Hey! Shut the fuck up. Yeah. And immediately everyone froze. It was like, yeah, we can't do that anymore. All right, yeah, we're done. Yeah, I do remember one time at, we were at the rink, and I was like,

And Travis and a bunch of kids were playing

outside the rink while you were skating. Yep. And you know, they used to do that in the one corner. Oh, yeah. Of the rink. And some people, some grandparents were trying to get by to go up the stairs. And I was on the other side of the rink and I yelled it out. Yo! It was like seven kids dropped the hockey sticks right away. Listen, dude, it translates. It translates to me. We were at the Phillies game this week.

And we took the girls and some, some family friends brought their kids. And one of the other, I don't even realize this is like a thing that just our family does, but one of the other kids was standing like, you don't want to sweet how like the front, she was like climbing on the front of it. And I was like, yo. And immediately she like gets startled and then starts crying. And I'm like, Oh fuck. I just fucked this up. Like this kid isn't normally used to getting this kind of treatment.

I'll tell you one of the coolest things is, and this was maybe two or three, one of the last few years that Jason played, were in the downstairs in the family room in that lounge. And, you know, they've come by four or five times trying to get people to leave. And I walk over by the door and the security guy was being, the security guys were very cool about it. They weren't rushing you.

But people would get Nancy. So I just told the guy, I said, watch this. And I just yelled, yo. All of a sudden, everybody starts walking out. Dude, it's a powerful, like Kylie's family has the whistle. Ed can do that loud, like, shoo, whoop. I'm jealous of that. So am I. I don't know that there's, like, the yo is undefeated.

You can say yo right now in the middle of a sea of people. I'm like, well, shit, that Kelsey's here.

Let's get to one more. That was a dadism, if I'd ever heard one. Let's listen to one more of these things. MJ from LA here. I'd like to know, what is the best piece of advice your dad gave you about dating, sex, marriage, and parenting? And also, what is the worst piece of advice he's ever given you? Thank you.

Thank you and love the show. Okay, thank you. That's an awesome question. I never got any advice on sex from dad. We never had the birds and the bees talk. No, we didn't. No, we didn't. Yeah. He left that to the Cleveland Heights Public Schools. Yeah, the health class. Yeah.

I lived without it. You can too. Mr. Hoon. Mr. Hoon and Robolowski. Robolowski. Coach Robo taught us about sex. And Coach Jones. Mike Jones was a... And Coach Jones. That's right. What were the other ones? Dating? I remember I was trying to figure out how to get a girl to, you know, think I was funny or cool. And in like early middle school, like maybe like sixth, seventh grade, maybe might even been younger than that.

And this funny way of like, hey, you know, just be her friend. Just be cool with her. You know, she doesn't like you. Pretty girls all hang around pretty girls. Yeah, that's right. Yes, yes.

I was like, all right, yeah, there you go. Just be friends with them. That's right. I do remember a brief discussion Jason and I had when he was at UC. Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah. He was telling me that you're... How good I was with the women? Yeah. See these girls, but I really don't want to...

He said, I really don't know what to talk about. And I told you that, and it's true for every guy, any guy listening. You know, I know I play football. I know everybody likes to talk about that. But tell me about you. Oh, wow. All you got to do is shut up and get them to talk about themselves. And you ain't got to say another word. Yeah.

Nod your head. Oh, wow. Yeah. Cool. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. You know, they add the little comments in there to make her feel good and just... Perfect. You don't have to say nothing. There you go. This is good. This is why you remind us about Emil. This is why you remind us about Emil.

Also why I live alone. Hey, I actually don't think he's listening to me. He's just acting like he wants to. They figured you out. Well, I was on AOL Instant Messenger and you definitely encouraged me to just talk to girls because you could tell that I was just, I did not know how to talk to girls. You were awkward. You were uncomfortable. Jesus Christ. I wasn't going to say that. I was uncomfortable. You were a little uncomfortable. Yeah.

Who wasn't, man? We were fucking, it was AOL Messenger. Who wasn't? What about it was awkward? You just said you're real at ease talking to girls. Jason, I used to eavesdrop in on your conversations on the phone. You remember when you told me to. No, Todd. We can't do this. You got to take that out. We can't do this. And that's all the Ed advice we got for you. I'll tell you advice I gave you that you didn't, that you didn't pay attention to. Oh, gosh. What's that? Katie. Katie.

Would say that she sees you and she says hi to you, but you say nothing back. Oh, really? I tried to tell you, you see Katie, talk to her. Not that you have to go out and that you're going to start dating her. She's a little older than you, yada, yada. I did not know how to talk to girls. But every girl in school is watching you talk to this hot older chick. This hot older chick. There you go.

All right. That's it for Edvise with Ed Kelsey. Happy Father's Day, everybody. Dad, I'll see you for Father's Day maybe. Love you, big guy. Thanks for coming on here and having some fun with us. Anytime. You know it. Love you, Pop. Love you.

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Alrighty folks. That's a, that's our dad. That's Ed Kelsey. That's dad. With some great fatherly advice. Love you, dad. We got to incorporate dad more in the show. He's a wealth of just like entertainment. Come on. This is my favorite human being, man. Beer Bowl submissions are also closing tonight. We will notify the teams that make it by this Friday, June 20th, send to at new HUD show with one S and use Beer Bowl. We've

We've had a lot of good submissions this year, and we're narrowing it down. Right. We're going to shout out Drew Garrison. Drew Garrison from Cincinnati, I believe. Hopefully that's the right one. Let's take a look at this link from one of the submissions. Yeah! Okay. Playing a little beer bowl. A little beer bowl. Oh, it's a little team action. Make beers go bye-bye. Oh, no. Bad pass. Takes it serious, though. Profanity. That's how you know he's serious. Oh, no. Oh, no.

Oh, gosh. This is... They have a lot of good... Impressive teamwork on the beer bowl. I will say, this is a very long match. It's got to be multiple matches.

I mean, extra points for all the Garage Beer merch. Drew Garrison out of Cincinnati. That was fun. That was good content. That was good. That was solid. They're also playing my favorite game, which is Beer Ball. Beer Ball is my favorite beer drinking game. It requires teamwork, athleticism, and beer drinking ability all combined into one sport. He had the no-look pass down. Shout out to Drew Garrison. Sibling swagger. Sibling swagger.

I like this intro already. This intro is amazing. Oh, they know. Yeah, baby. I'm all about this. Legend of the Hidden Temple. Fuck yes. Welcome to New Heights.

Intro is epic. I'm getting so excited right now. All the nostalgia right now is so... ...sought the legendary treasure hidden deep within. Not gold nor jewels, but their mother's famed Thanksgiving dinner rolls. Legends spoke of their wars... Oh my gosh. ...coveted by all... This is so ridiculous. Is this AI? How did they get this? ...strength and agility. His movements like a jaguar prowling under the canopy. This is great. Jason, the elder... How fucking long is this?

Do they at any point show themselves? That is correct. What color was the ladder? Hold on. Hold on. Go back to his correct answer. Go back to his correct answer. This is amazing. Next question. How did the legend describe the dinner rolls? Blueberry. Incorrect.

God dammit, they have to be in. This is legendary. Warm and Fluffy. That is correct. What color was the labyrinth? Blue Barracudas. That is not one of our choices. That is correct.

This is great. They're in just for the creativity. God damn it. My face hurts, man. That was fucking gold. I think about taking away points for AI because I'm pretty sure Olmec was AI'd out the ass, but I don't care. That was so good. You got to keep it in. Wonderful job. That was, she was epic. The standing there with the beer. Sibling swagger is in. That was great.

That was outstanding. I'm also trying to obtain Korean announcers for beer bowl. So if there's anybody that has experience being an answer in the language of Korean, we would love to have you be the host for this year's beer bowl.

Think about how electrical it would be. You're going to write a book on how to get canceled. It would. It would. You're going to write a book on how to get canceled. I don't do that. I mean, listen, they're better than U.S. announcers. I'm just saying, announcers in English is kind of electric. Fucking Korean announcers, there's just something about it. It fucking gets the party fucking going. It's going to be absurd. It's going to be incredible. People are going to be into this fucking thing.

You're going to have to have translators talking to the teammates? No, that's not. Yeah. I mean, it's the way they do it in baseball. They do it with Shohei Otani in Major League Baseball. New Heights Beer Bowl brought to you and presented in Korean. All right. Dude, I think it'd be a lecture. I'm just saying. I think it'd be pretty fucking awesome. We're going to find out, I guess, if you can find somebody. Well, we might not. I don't know that we're going to be able to find any Korean announcers. Over there on the Jersey Shore? I think they might be in Korea. Just a hunch. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, that makes sense. South Korea, probably. Keep sending in those beer bowl submissions, guys. That was fucking electric. All righty. That wraps up another episode of New Heights. Thank you to Papa Kelsey for joining us on the show. Next week, Chiefs fans, you're going to be loving the episode we got for you. We got another great guest for you guys. So make sure you're subscribed on YouTube to the New Heights channel. Follow New Heights on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Did Kylie show you the pinup first? Yeah, actually. She beat me to it. Yeah. I think she saw it on TikTok. She did see it on TikTok because I then couldn't find it. And I was like, where the hell is that thing at? Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was like already a thing on TikTok. It was pinup Jason. I like that we're calling it pinup Jason. It's pinup Jason. What do you want to call it? It's so fucking good. Your little...

perverted no it's uh artistic yeah jason it's you got to celebrate you're just showing you're showing one of the comments there's i mean all the a lot of the comments made me laugh one of my favorites was it's got a good pecker on them the old pecker the old woodpecker right good looking pecker on that guy well done let's let's get that thing off our screen yeah let's let's let's move on

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