Trey Smith on Chiefs New Faces, Being Pat Mahomes' Enforcer, and His Wild Path to the NFL | Ep 144
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Jason, tell the people what we got coming up today, though. We got another great episode for you guys lined up today, starting off with Travis being called out by Big Mayo. Oh, my gosh. You've been called out, Trav. That's right. It's official.

We've also got some No Dumb Questions to Answer Plus from the Kansas City Chiefs. Trey Smith is with us. Yeah! Let's start with some of the new news. All right, man. New news is brought to you by mayonnaise. That is Hellman's mayonnaise. That's right, baby. Who doesn't love mayonnaise? Travis doesn't love mayonnaise. That thick old egg batter. And now they're her sponsor. What? Travis, you're not going to believe this. Will Levis has called you on Instagram. No.

Why did he call me out? What did I do? Well...

Will is a known mayo advocate and your mayo hate. He is going to challenge you to eat your words. Why? Why? Literally. I don't, I don't, challenge not accepted. I don't even know the challenge, but if it has anything to do with mayo, I'm out. Okay, well, this is why Travis, this is why Will is challenging you to try Hellman's eat your words challenge. They're out here challenging mayo haters to give their flavored mayo a shot. Ha ha!

I've never said a single bad thing about mayo. Travis, are you kidding me? This is like nails on a chalkboard to me, dude.

I love mayo. Listen. It's so good. All right. But you're acting like this is regular mayonnaise. This is totally different. This is spicy mayo, right? There's flavor to it. It's got an amazing smoky kick to it. This isn't regular mayonnaise. You like spicy aioli. Think of it like that. It's just spicy aioli. All right. Maybe I'll think about it. Only because it's spicy mayo and it takes away from the eggy thickness of this thing.

So-called Hellman's mayonnaise. You hear that, Will? You hear that, Will? That sounds like a small win for the 92 percenters on a future episode. That's right. Travis might possibly, with a non-zero chance, eat mayonnaise. So stay tuned for if he does or does not accept, but he kind of does half-heartedly. You guys know what I'm saying. That does it for new news brought to you by Hellman's.

Yes, it does. It's terrifying. Before we get to this Trey Smith episode, time for some No Dumb Questions brought to you by Perplexity AI. Discover fast and reliable search with Perplexity AI today. Alrighty, first No Dumb Question from at Hummingbird Cake Nola N1. What was your favorite struggle meal? Struggle meal, okay. When you were broke. Struggle meal.

And what's the fanciest or most expensive thing you've ever eaten? So I'm devising from context what struggle meal means. Is this just like the politically correct way to say broke ass meal or something like that? Like we'd call it struggle meal. I've never heard. I've never heard struggle meal either, but I understand. I don't know why I don't like it. I don't like it. You're struggling. What is your favorite like cheap ass meal? Like something like, I don't know. I mean, you already know we could round up.

I got a few good ones. The old Wendy's dollar menu. Fuck yeah. No, you know, one of my fucking favorite things to do was in college after I went through my entire FAFSA check and my scholarship check would be to call dad to tell him to call Domino's and put in a large pizza for me.

So your struggle was calling your parents. Yeah. I mean, I've had a beautiful life. It works. I guess in college, you're like ramen noodles. I couldn't do ramen noodles, man. Oh, I love ramen noodles. When I think of food, like things that are...

You know, I just, we don't have any money or we're like getting the bare bottom of the pantry. I think of ramen noodles. I think of like beans and weenies, big beans and weenies fan. That's one of my favorites. Hated beans and weenies. Hamburger helper. Does that count? Is that kind of like TV dinners? TV dinners. Yeah. Like what are the, the just like heat them up type deals. But that's the thing. Like if I'm struggling and I'm broke, I'm like, I'm probably going to go to like McDonald's and just get a few like things off of the dollar. Like, I don't know.

I don't know if you can even do that in my – I haven't – yeah, the value menu. I haven't like – I don't think they're a dollar anymore. I think they've upped them. That's fucked. What is your favorite value meal item at any fast food chain? Dude, junior bacon cheeseburger. I mean, it's good. I feel like I had so many of them in college. You used to be able to get fucking nuggets for a dollar. I know. I think I used to like them so much in college, I just kind of got turned off at JBCs.

They're not, it's not as good to me anymore. You could always go and get guys pizza slice for a dollar. I mean, dude, if you're really cramped, you go in with a couple of buddies for a crave case from white, white castle. I mean, you're white castle, man. Dude, you're fucking stuff. That's a lot of sliders. Yeah.

I think it's like 20. I feel like Taco Bell didn't really have a great value menu. I think the whole menu is just kind of value. Dude, what? You could order the entire menu twice with like fucking $20. What? I think that's what I'm saying.

I think the whole thing was just value. You walk into fucking Taco Bell with $5. You can get fucking breakfast, lunch, and dinner. I mean, before Subway started price gouging, those $5 footlongs, that's a pretty damn good deal. It is. Yeah, as you can see, we've lived a life fully of privilege. I guess, yeah, cereal. Cereal is another one of them. You get a box for fucking...

A dollar and some change, you get a fuck ton of meals out of that box. Have you ever ate cereal with water? I've done it. I mean... It's not ideal. I'm not upset with just the crunch and like not getting them soggy. I like the sogginess, especially specific types of cereal. Like it's just better being a little soggy. You're like a soggy oatmeal guy too. I like mine a little bit more dry. You like dry oatmeal? I like drier than soggy. I don't like soup oatmeal, but I like there to be...

A consistency. Yeah, see, I can't do the soupy stuff. It's hard for me to do soupy stuff. Do you like soup in general? What's your favorite soup? Like chicken noodle. Soup is the original struggle meal. That's like soup kitchen. Yeah. But I've never been to a soup kitchen. I'm not going to lie. Chicken noodle only. Yeah, Campbell's chicken noodle. What are we talking about? Really, any of the Campbell's soups, they qualify, right? I've only enjoyed chicken noodle. I only like that brothy soup. I don't like the fucking... You don't like clam chowder? Yeah, the...

fucking thick shit. I'm out on that. The only thick type soup I could do is like a bisque. Yeah. I mean, this is the best we can do for you. I've heard of guys eating like ketchup sandwiches and like mayonnaise sandwiches and... Sugar sandwich. That was my dog Reggie's go-to when he was struggling. Sugar sandwich. Is that what I think it is? Yeah. Yeah, that's exactly it? Yep. That doesn't sound exciting one bit. I'm not gonna lie. I kind of fuck with it. I used to fucking...

I mean, it's essentially what I used to do with a bagel and cinnamon sugar. Like, just throw that bagel. Another one. Bagel is another one. All right. So let's transition this to the most expensive thing you've ever eaten. There's a $100 cheesesteak at this restaurant, Barclay Prime, downtown Philadelphia. You pulled the trigger on it? I mean, we do a lot of O-line dinners there and stuff like that where you're kind of just like splurging as a group. Oh, yeah. And I have had that. I don't think it's the fanciest or most expensive thing, but-

There's something about it being a cheesesteak being that ridiculously priced that is, and it's very good, but I guess I'll vote that. I don't know. What do you got? Nice. I got nothing. I don't know. I like, I don't necessarily look at the most expensive thing and yeah. And fancy foods are kind of just like, I love getting fucking big obnoxious steaks. So if I see like a porter house, that's a 48 ounce. I'm like, give me that medium. You cut it off the bone a little bit too. Most of the higher tier,

priced items are usually like meat that has some like type of alteration like a hey you want this dry aged 52 ounce like tomahawk steak that's from wagyu and it's like 300 and i'm like no i want the regular ribeye that tastes fucking delicious without putting all that fungus on it i don't need the fucking aging process give me the aging no give me the regular steak not wagyu

And give me the regular. I like a steak that tastes like a steak. I don't like a steak that tastes like it's been marinated in butter and then melts all over the place. It hasn't been marinated in butter. All right, whatever. The fancy stuff nine times out of ten tastes worse.

Just being honest with you. Unless the one caveat to this fancy pasta, you go to a nice Italian restaurant. That's like upscale. Those pastas that come out. My guy, Vetri. I don't know how the fuck he puts so much flavor into each one of these little pillows of gnocchi.

But it is fucking crazy. It's so good. I love it. So if I'm going fancy, I feel like fancy Italian is like worth it. But fancy steakhouse, I've never been in on the fancy steakhouse. I'm just going to be honest. Dude, you got to go to Como. Other than 1587 Prime, can't wait for that fancy ass steakhouse. You already know, baby. Opening up soon. We're going to fucking get that thing up and running. I want it to be up and running. It's going to be a machine serving Kansas City and all the Chiefs kingdom.

And whoever else wants to come and enjoy a meal that me and Pat are giving to the city. All righty. That's it for No Dumb Questions brought to you by Perplexity. Now let's get to our convo with the one, the only, Trey Smith. The Enforcer. Ha ha ha.

Our guest today is six-round draft pick from the University of Tennessee. He is a two-time first-team All-SEC selection, 2024 Pro Bowl, two-time Super Bowl champion, winner of the 2024 Kelsey Jam Wing Eating Contest. Yes, sir! Very nice. And the starting right guard for the Kansas City Chiefs. That's right, it's the enforcer, Mr. Trey Smith, baby! Woo!

Yes, sir. Appreciate y'all having me on, man. Trey, how you doing? How's the offseason been treating you? Man, it's solid, man. It's been a good offseason. We get back down to Tennessee, spend some time with the family, see a lot of friends, travel a bit, and did all my training really in Texas, man. It's trying to get right. That's awesome. That's awesome. Let's get it, man. Where did the nickname Enforcer... I know Travis calls you the Enforcer. I'm pretty sure I've heard Baldinger call you the Enforcer. Is there a... Do you know who originated that, or is that just... Just turn on the film, Jason. Just watching the... Just turn on the film. Trust me. I've been...

preaching this for a while yeah man i gotta give uh credits to trab honestly he was the first person i saw that really like used it uh in this podcast bro but uh you know baldy does an amazing job breaking out film all the time and he would just always talk about my style of play so i think he just sort of stuff from there yeah absolutely i i've been saying this for years travis knows this i've told you

I mean, if not my favorite, one of my favorite offensive linemen to watch in the league. The way you play at, the way you finish, it is just a joy to watch. You play the game the right way. So couldn't be more excited to have you on this podcast and talk about that journey and everything. So thanks for coming on, brother. Yeah, man. Appreciate y'all having me on, man. Hell yeah, baby. You already know. And the thing is, as the enforcer, when you get a guy that is the enforcer on a team, I'm telling you, when he first got here –

you could see the mentality of the offense start to get a little meaner, start to get a little bit more on the attack. And it's just, it's contagious, man. And Trey, I don't know what it was like at Tennessee because I wasn't there, but something tells me that you were really the motor of that team as well, man. Because every time I feel like you go into a new building, man, all of a sudden that culture changes a little bit to get a little bit more serious and a little bit more about the business, man.

And that's hats off to your professionalism and just who you are and how you play this game, dog. Appreciate it, dog, man. I just try to tell myself when I feel it's attack mode. You know, it's attack mode, bro. You see anything moves, you hit it, you kill it, bro. Yeah. Let's go. So, man, I got that early in high school. But, yeah, man, I really appreciate the words from both of y'all, man. Just understand how much I respect both of y'all. I really appreciate it, bro.

I feel like it's not even just an enforcer and how hard you hit people and how aggressive and how you finish. There's also like a swagger and like a boy. Like what does Andy say? What does Andy call bravado? Is that called a bravado? Yeah. Oh yeah. There's like a, there's that part of it where I remember, I don't know if it was the chiefs cut these clips up and hopefully Brandon can find it. There's a cutup of you going at it with Jeffrey Simmons. And it is just one of my all time favorite cutups of any offense. Because I,

Simit, he's a bad man. That dude is angry. He plays angry. And you matched every bit of it. You could tell it was starting to affect him. It was a joy to watch. It's one of my favorite games, baby. Oh, my gosh. It was a physical one, man. Tennessee's always a banger. You see it after the runs when you're picking up a checko or whoever just got a big carry. You're pointing to the first down. There's a level of...

and tenacity that rubs off on those around you. And that's the enforcer. It's that plus the physical nature of how you play the game. You got it? Oh, he said the Denver clip. That's a good one, too. That's a good one, too. Here we go. Dang, the swat. Come here. Come here. Come on. Come on. The enforcer. I got to say this. Oh.

And I think there's another, first of all, great job of laying the blitzer, getting flat to put yourself in a good position on the player in open space. If you go downfield right away, you're going to be way out front, and this guy's going to cut you. You go flat.

And then, man, leaving your feet. I mean, this is like a – you can't even do this on defense anymore. You leave your feet as a defender. That's a personal foul. You can still do it as a guard. Oh, man. That's one of my favorite plays, bro. Oh, yeah. Coach Heck did a great job that week prepping us. And Creed and I identified. We saw it before it came up. We were just like, hey.

It's coming up. Let's get it. Let's get it. As soon as he blitzed it, I'm like, oh, let's get him over. And I saw Justin Simmons sort of plant his feet. I'm just thinking like, bro, why are you sitting still? Yeah. Boom! You know what I mean? Yeah! He was like trying to O-Way you go underneath. He stood still like he was going to take it off. So I was like, all right, thank you. Man, I was fired, bro. Bro, I can only imagine as a defender. It's like once you get into striking range, you're just like, oh.

Oh, shit. I can't go anywhere. And there's this point as an offensive lineman where you know where the ball is hitting and you know where the defender is and you know the defender has no choice but to come back to where you're at. And you identify that, not just in that clip. I've seen you, I forget what, it might have been a Chargers game.

From back, there's another clip where you get out on a, it was either a screen or some type of like gadget play. And it's again, you're like leaving your feet. And in order to do that, you got to know. You know what I mean? It's like this dude is throwing everything he can to this guy and blowing him up. Yeah. For what? 320? For 350? What are you weighing in right now? 320. 320. 320. 320.

For 300 plus to be leaving their feet like that and putting all force, man, that is an athletic son of a gun, man. No doubt. I don't know how much athleticism you can teach in your football camp, but you can teach that mentality, baby. Absolutely. You're hosting your second annual Trey Smith football camp later this month. How excited are you for it?

Yeah, it's going to be my second football camp in my hometown of Jackson, Tennessee. Man, just fired up for it, bro. I think giving back to Jackson, the community that poured so much into me, it was about time to do something for them that was big for the city. Nice. Our first year, we learned a lot with the young kids. It's hard to manage young kids. Yeah, for sure. We want to make sure

So ages like second grade and up, they just have a good, fun time, have the love of the game. Then for our middle school and high school camp, we'll turn it up a notch. We're trying to get them ready for the next season. So really looking forward to it, bro. Get it back on. It is funny when you go to one of these camps. And for us, we are so used to going about the position a certain way and the game a certain way. And you try like –

teaching that to like a young kid who's like six years old and they're like i just want to run over these bags and put your face through his face you're like no get in your stance like this and use your hands like this and you're like okay this is all pointless yeah just run over these bags and then stop the last camp i uh i did i thought it was a brilliant idea to try and have a water balloon fight at the end of the camp sounds great until you realize that that's not like

like two teams fighting against each other we just like had a bunch of coolers filled with water balloons just a battle royale and everyone picked up the water balloon and then looked directly towards me it just started so i had over like 200 kids around that's great and eventually i just gave in and just got smoked by everyone that's some that's some good off-season conditioning

You know, instead of running striders, just give a bunch of kids water balloons and try and avoid them. Yeah. My buddy last year, he set me up. He had all the kids come and tap him. So I had like 200 dirt bands. I was just trying to fall so I don't crush little Timmy's leg. Yeah, right? Yeah.

Just don't fall on one of these kids because they're 320. Wink, wink. That's a lot coming down. So this isn't just offensive linemen. This is all across just football in general. You have multiple coaches there helping out with it. And it's all ages? Yeah, it'll be all ages across the board pretty much from second grade all the way up to senior high school. Yeah.

And we'll have coaches, very from a lot of former volunteer guys, some guys I went to high school with, even NFL players as well, coaches that I've just sort of found along my way in my journey too. So I have a large support crew and coaching staff that's coming to help us out. So it'll be awesome, man. Hell yeah, hell yeah. That's right. Take care, man. Did you attend any football camps growing up? Oh, dude, I went to a ton. A ton of them, man. That was a big part of me becoming a good player. I feel like I would always go –

I hate to say it, but I was going to University of Alabama's football camp with Nick Saban. Big Bama fan growing up. So, like, I and I, we would drive down to Tuscaloosa, do the camp every year. And eventually, my high school coach was like, hey, you guys realize there's more schools than just Alabama, right? So, we started going to Ole Miss, Tennessee, Arkansas, across the country, bro. So, that was huge for my development. Heck yeah, man. Was it always...

Bama versus Tennessee? Was it all in terms of going to college or how the recruiting process? How'd you end up back in Tennessee if Bama was always a dream? Yeah. So I did not like Tennessee. Because you were the number one recruit coming out of high school, right? Yeah. I was about to say. 5-star, all that. Oh, yeah. I got my first offer from Ole Miss, I think, when I was 14 from U-Freeze. And that just sort of like domino effect. I got offers from across the country. But for me, I always grew up a Bama fan because my kindergarten teacher at the time or so was a

equipment manager for them. So I went to the locker room, game day, like first time I've been to an SEC football game or a college football game.

state-of-the-art facilities. You're just like, I was like, whoa, favorite colors red. I love elephants. I'm like, damn, it's a match made in heaven. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. So then, you know, all of a sudden, you're like, bro, Bama has become one of the top schools. They say it was one of all these championships and stuff. Then obviously, I started getting recruited and I started looking around a little bit. And ultimately, bro, it ended up being between like Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, and Tennessee.

And then the night of my decision, it was really Ohio State and Tennessee. And then I flipped to Tennessee in the middle of the night. So I was like, you know what? Tennessee makes more sense long term. It's my home. I want to live there one day. I think it was the best decision I ever made in my life, going to Tennessee. I'll tell you what, man. Going back to Tennessee after we got smoked when I was in college playing Tennessee.

Tyler Bray and Cordell Patterson got after us a little bit. See flash feet. But going back when Butch Jones was there and just being around because Eric Berry had a football camp up there and I was up there trying to help him out and at least show my face. But obviously got some family around the Knoxville area.

It was so wild to see that town. The entire city is orange. Yes, sir. Like everything in sight is orange. And it kind of gives a little bit of Ohio State, but Ohio State is surrounded by Columbus and an actual big city. No, Knoxville is everything is balls. Yeah.

All over the place. And I was just so, I was like, man, I just, I appreciated it from a completely different perspective going back once I was already through college and everything. That had to be a fucking hell of a goddamn time when you were there. Bro, unbelievable. I wish we were better at football. Yeah.

We got some seasons that weren't so great, but like, bro, I'm talking about the love you feel on campus from like day one is unbelievable. You know, there's such a fandom. There's a lifestyle. People in Knoxville, Tennessee, it's a volunteer lifestyle, man. They really bleed orange. I can go back on campus like,

I'd tell my family, like, we go back to football games usually on the bye week, right? Yeah. I started getting swarmed by people. And it got so bad that, like, they gave me a golf cart to ride around on game day. But, like, the love. I mean, the last time I played a Saffron to the C, we were going on, like, overhats.

a decade ago, and people still know my name. I might go in a restaurant. People talk to you. It just shows how great Ball Nation is. You're a great player. You treat the city right, man. They'll show love continuously, bro. So, like I said, man, there's a different way of fandom and lifestyle, man. They live that life down there in Tennessee.

Hell yeah, baby. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. What did you carry a sledgehammer around campus for? What was the signature behind that? What was that deal? Yo, that's crazy. So it was my freshman year. Yeah, we played Georgia Tech season opener in Atlanta, I guess in Mercedes-Benz. I was like the second football player I ever played there. Yeah.

And I had a block. It was like a trap play. So basically one of our center plays, Trav. And I walloped in the end. And then he went extra on top of it. So Coach Jones, I guess he had the sledgehammer like hit. Could be a tackle hit, whatever it is. So like the week, and I got it. My first game at Tennessee. And I don't know why. Maybe I'm watching a movie or something. But here I am carrying this sledgehammer like on my back. Walking in class.

As a freshman, bro, like first meeting class, I just got a hammer in the classroom. So it was crazy. That was one of the cooler things Butch Jones did with the sledgehammer paying homage to the blockers. That's amazing. That's a great way to represent it. Look at that. There it is, bro. There it is. Check him out. That's great. That's iconic. Going to class. You see all that, you college athletes? Going to class. But he's there for work.

He's got his lunch pail and his sledgehammer with him. He's ready to go. All right. Going into your fifth season with the Chiefs. All right. We got 2025 Chiefs coming up. Yes, sir. Come on. Anything different going into this season for you guys up front or as a team? Nothing.

I would say up front, you know, just have a couple of new pieces coming in and, you know, some guys are definitely excited about, excited to work with. And, you know, I think our mission and try to agree with this man, like it's going to stay the same, man. We want another Lombardi, one of the trophy, man. We know we came up a little bit short last year, man. We're just motivated. You know what I'm saying? That feeling we have, at least I know it's been driving me. I want to get back there. I want to win it again, man. Yeah. We'll be absolutely fine. But a couple of new faces to bring into the fold for offensive line, but yeah,

And Coach Heck and Coach Matej, they do a great job making sure we're well coached up and prepared. So, like I said, I'm just looking forward to it, man. Like, hey, set the ball down. Let's play. Let's go. Let's play, man. Let's go. You're firing me up right now, man. Come on, man. Come on, man. Let's get it. I do got to say this, though. You mentioned a few new faces, man. Our guy Big Tooney, man. Joe isn't – he's not in the building anymore, but you got to show some love, man. Got to. He was there when you came in.

Yeah. Right? Like, you know, I was in Casey when you came in. I couldn't remember when exactly Joe came in and everything. Yeah, it was first year because it was when Orlando came in two at the same time. So it was like all four of us. Yeah. That's crazy. As a young, like, offensive lineman in the league and your mentality and a guy like that who has been proven, won Super Bowls and, you know, been a pro bowler, Tooney –

what was he in terms of your development and how he helped you out early on in your career? Yeah. I always start this while talking about Joe from here on out, but I think Joe's going to be a future hall of famer. Oh yeah. And just for me, man, as a young cat segment to the lead, you know, wide eye freaked out.

like in terms of reassurance and your abilities, you know, helping you out, picking Joe's brain for different things. Like Joe and I play the game way differently. Like Joe is super technical. He's certainly cool. He's not the biggest guy, but he knows how to manipulate people's body. Like he's, he's nice with bro. Like on a different level. I didn't even know it was possible. And,

for me, man, just having to lean on him, especially when I was younger. Hey, Joe, what would you do in this situation? How would you attack this? Like, how would you sort of set this block up? And having that resource there was invaluable. And, you know, just having a genuine friend, too. You know, a guy you can depend on, a brother, like, man, it's priceless, bro. So, for me, I have a ton of gratitude being able to work with Joe. Having Joe, you know, some guys like me and Creed, you know, being able to work as an interior unit as well. I mean, that was special, bro.

It's heartbreaking. Joe's not coming back. He's got a ball in Chicago. He knows I love him. Wishing nothing but success. But, man, having him around at the mentoring spot to just help me, help teach me the game and teach me the nuances, man, that was incredible. Oh, yeah. Look, that interior three was my favorite to watch

over the last four years, man, you, between you, Creed and Joe and all three of you being different players and like having similarities, but then also, and Andy's a great coach and he finds ways to utilize everything and maximize it. I love watching the way you guys work inside. It was heroic with Joe tried to do this year by sliding out to tackle and,

I mean, I don't know many guards that can even give that a go in the NFL. Like that is a completely different position. So hats off to him. Very unselfish move to do that for the team. But with him gone, you're sliding in last year's rookie, Sua Matias. Am I saying that right? Yeah, Kingsley. Kingsley sliding in to guard. And then who do we got to tackle now? Mike Caliendo. Is he? Caliendo still there? Perfect. Yep.

So there'll be some open competition, some back and forth a little bit for figuring out who's going in there with you guys. Yeah, there definitely will be. And I mean, hell, man, we've all been part of the league. It's competition's way to solve, so we all got to go get it. Always. You're right, 100%.

I know both of them will work their tails off. The best man's going to win. I have to earn my job against them as well. But I'm excited about both of them. I love Mike, man. Mike's a great dude. Mike's extremely intelligent as well and a great ball player. And then Kingsley, just a young cat. He's got those young legs, a healthy body. Sure, man. His ability is incredible in some of the things that he can do on the field as well. So like I said, the moving pieces were awesome. Mine were great. We're going to be in a good position though, man.

Oh, yeah. The one I'm looking forward to, I just got to be honest, that left tackle position was something that was somewhat of a revolving door all season long for you last year. Have you seen this kid yet, Josh? Like, I – Josh, to me, watching the tape in college, it was absurd. Yeah. Like, the athletic ability and size. Trav knows because I've been watching this. Yeah, I've been preaching. I've laid my eyes on him. You already know. I've seen it. I've seen it. He was playing defensive end –

as just like a scout team defensive end. And he was just playing his gap, but he was being a pro. He was being locked in and being a pro. And I felt that man's hands grab me. And I was like, all right, all right. I got to come with it even when he's just giving the looks. I got to make sure I've got my feet planted, man. Yeah.

I've watched a lot of these linemen coming out the last few years. This kid, I mean, he is the closest thing I've seen to like a Trent Williams or like a Jason, like that next level, like strength and athleticism. Yeah. The only reason he fell to you guys is because of that quad. Is it quad tender patella tendon injury? Yeah. What's he look like so far? Yeah.

Man, I haven't seen him in action, but I mean, I just heard that he is so strong, like unbelievably strong is one thing. So like Trav, you say it about his hands, like that's perfect spot where I keep hearing. But obviously, like the talent is there, man. I've seen some of his film as well. And, you know, obviously got a chance to win a 90 last year. Shout out to him. But, you know, I think he's going to be a great asset to the team. And I'm looking forward to it, bro.

Oh, yeah, baby. Get them in there. Get them nice and ingrained in the culture we got over there, man. Have some fun while we go and whoop some ass. Yeah. You know, we'll get them right. Would you rather play in Tampa Bay, Miami heat, early season, or like Green Bay in the middle of the playoffs? Like, would you rather play in cold weather or hot weather? I'll play in frigid temperatures, negative degree weather. I love it. All day. All day. I love it.

I love the best. Once he gets below 50. What was that one game in KC where – Against Miami? Was that the one where I was like watching the field and it was like frozen. Coach Reed had icicles coming from his mustache. Yeah. Yeah, it was like fourth-coldest game in NFL history, man. Yes. How did you feel? You'd rather play in that than Miami 95? Yeah.

Yeah, all day long. All day long. Because one, in the heat and humidity, you're going to tire out a little bit easier, man. Everything is a little bit tougher. It's a different mental space, right? Where in the cold, as a big guy, like I said, I'm always sweating, bro.

Yeah, right? It's already there. Like, I'll be nice and cool. I can recover faster. You know, the winter coat. Jason, you know, you get a little bit heavier at the end of the year, so. Oh, yeah, baby. I'm good, man. I'm solid. How do those trap blocks feel, though, when it's negative four? Oh, you know. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh, you felt it. It won't kill you now. But the thing about it that's great is the Divas of Lyman don't necessarily want to rush Astro as well, too. For sure. Because you're talking about a team that came from Miami. They just left 80-degree weather. Now it's negative 11 degrees. You're like, what the hell is going on? Where are they dropping us off at? So it makes our job easier. It is a little different.

You know, being in 15 to 20 degree weather for a couple weeks, for like a month, staying in between that 20 to 40 degree weather in Kansas City when it's in the winter.

and then it dropping down. Yeah. I feel like the initial, the first day in it is always the coldest. Like, you know what I mean? Like if you're kind of acclimated to some of the cold, like that first day it drops below 50 in Kansas city. I'm like, Oh, even I'm like, God damn, it's kind of cold outside. You know what I mean? But then once I get used to it, I'm outside in shorts and a t-shirt. It's coming from, coming from Miami and it,

being 75 to playing in negative five degrees is hell i was probably like what the fuck is this yeah that's tough bro that's tough what is that was that the coldest game you ever played in by far because like the coldest weather i would ever play out of tennessee would be like kentucky or missouri so that was the coldest it got and it'll probably be around like december maybe late november

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Let's get into some draft stories, man. Drafted by the Chiefs six overall. I mean, six round pick. Definitely not six overall. But definitely worthy of six overall. Can you talk to everybody on the reasons why you kind of slid in the draft and what draft day was like for you? Yeah.

Yeah, man. So those of y'all don't know, right after my freshman year entering my sophomore season, in that offseason, we had a coaching change. Entire coaching staff is fired. And Watson, Jerry Pruitt from University of Alabama. In that whole offseason, they're just trying to break this. And as you guys know, if you get a new coaching staff, they're trying to weed out the bad guys, figure out what teams are going to be built around. Break the culture, man. Yeah, yeah. We were going to set the culture up, right?

They looked at me, I had a lot of success in my first year as a freshman. They're like, all right, we can build around this young player. So they just started pushing us every single day during mad drills. And I was eating it, bro. Like it was nothing to me. I'm laughing at them. It's all me shit. I'm like, it's all y'all got. And like one week, man, unconditionally, we're doing happy asses and I passed out.

And I never passed out. I couldn't breathe well. I lost 13 pounds in a day. I remember talking to our team doctor like, hey, you guys got to run more tests on me. Like, I feel terrible. And he's like, we're going to do a blood draw. Just go ahead and go to class. I remember leaving my dorm room, having to walk like 400 yards to the library to write a paper. And I'm going to stop like seven times just to catch my breath.

And as soon as I got out, doctors calling me frantic, like, hey, Trey, where are you at? Where are you at? I'm like, I just got finished with my paper. Is everything okay? He's like, don't worry about it. We'll send someone over the car to come scoop you up. They rushed me to the hospital and figure out that I have blood clots on both sides of my lungs. So that was sort of one of those moments where it's like, man, can I still play football? Like, what does this mean? And pretty much working with doctors, like for five months, you're able on blood thinners. I think it's blood thinners is like,

If you take a shot to the head or if you get cut, you run the risk of internal bleeding or just bleeding out in general. So it's generally dangerous for a contact sport, which was tough. What they ended up doing is blood thinners for about five to six months. Was able to play in my sophomore year. Got about the halfway point of my season. Had the same sort of things going. Can't breathe well, coughing, mucus, et cetera. And.

they rushed me to the hospital again just to be safe they're like hey you have blood clots again and at that point my career was completely over in my mind like the doctors told me if you have blood clots two times you'll never play football again it's not safe like we won't allow it and

- You know, through the grace of God, I had some people in my corner at University of Tennessee that just flew me across the country. And we went to the Cleveland Clinic where I met with some doctors that looked at my scans, looked at all of our tests. It was just like, you don't have blood clots again, man. It looks like you have residual scar tissue in your lungs from the first case.

So that was like a breakthrough, right? Oh, wow. Yeah, so that's how close it was. I almost didn't take that trip. So I was pretty much done. I was like, I'll get the coaching player engagement. But when I got that news, it sort of opened everything up to where I ended up going to a blood clotting specialist in North Carolina where he created a health plan that had never done this word football before where I took blood thinner every single day of the week except for Friday morning, and I would just wake up and play on Saturdays. So that means no practice, no contact, no training camp,

I would literally just be vibing out, doing cardio, watching film, studying as much as I can. We'd just go playing on Saturdays. So it was a crazy experience. But, you know, my junior year, I was able to play the entire season, decided to stay at Tennessee because I made a promise to my deceased mom, Rosetta Smith, that,

I would get my degree and I'd play in the NFL one day. So I kept my promise to my senior season and finished it out. And then the draft is here. I'm like, hell yeah. Let's get paid. Man, what a roller coaster that had to be, bro. That is wild. So is there like a condition that causes your blood to clot in certain ways? Or is this just like a unfortunate, like unlucky one-off thing?

Yeah. So you got either provoked or unprovoked blood clots. Mine was unprovoked. They tried looking at all parts of my body to figure out like where it's originating. A lot of times you have a surgery, you get hit a certain way, et cetera. Like nothing happened to me that would cost it. And genetic testing didn't show up anything definitively as well. Wow.

Man. Yeah, man. Because I remember hearing about this when you were coming out. Like, even in the Eagles building, I remember guys talking about, yeah, he's got this thing with, like, I thought it was your heart. I didn't know it was blood clots. I knew there was something going on. But I remember that was something that all the teams were thinking about. How, if you didn't have that, where do you think you would have been drafted? Six overall. Oh!

I don't think, like, I'd like to think first round, but second round, third, probably worst-case scenario. Sorry about that. That is wild. And now no issues. Like, you haven't had anything in the NFL. Nothing at all, brother. Gosh, that is amazing. Nothing at all, man. Yeah, that is outstanding. Back to draft day, though. So, still, you went back, had –

Had your junior year at Tennessee. Where were you on draft day? And who was it that gave you the call? Yeah, man. So I was in Jackson and I talked to my agents and they're pretty much saying, you know, we don't think you'll be a first round with the medical history, but you're going to go second round. Like third round is like worst case scenario, but you'll get drafted. So day one, pretty good amount of families there. I'm like, I appreciate y'all.

I'm playing the game tonight. I'm not going to draft it. So I'm playing Rocket League. Dude, that game is Rocket League with the boys. I don't want to sidestep it, but this is what I love about Rocket League. It's only like four buttons. I can't do all these games with all these buttons now. Just give me like two buttons to screw around and try and score a goal. All right, go ahead. Sorry. Yeah, man. No, you're good. So I'm on Rocket League with the homies, man. We're chilling, just doing our thing. And pretty much first round goal was all right, cool.

Day two, I'm sending very well. All right.

this is the day I'm about to get drafted. And, you know, I was like, I'll pay attention to it. And this year was COVID year. So they had like a little, if you're considered like a top guy, they sent you a whole camera equipment and like things for your house. So I had mine set up in my living room. I'm sitting on the couch with my family and pick after pick after pick after pick after pick. Second round goes, third round was like, okay, I'm going to go back to the hockey league. I'm just going to play it again. I'm just going to take my mind off of it. You know, that third round came and it went.

And I remember just being like, damn, like, you know, what happened? You know, and being a little upset and talking to my dad. And he just sort of reassures me and calls me down a little bit. So day three goes. I wake up a little bit late. No, no phone call or anything. I get a call from a former head coach that I knew from recruiting. And he's pretty much saying, hey, I can't believe you're here, man. I remember you in high school. You were number one. Bob was like, hey, we're going to take you to this next draft pick. It's like in the fifth round. So I'm thinking, OK, I'm going to watch this one. I'm about to get picked.

And he picks somebody else and he calls him right back. But the minute after it's just like, Hey, sorry, I had to do this political blah, blah. Look, what we're going to do is we're going to fly you in as undrafted free agent. We'll get a sign. We'll get you signed. We'll get all this stuff taken care of you and pops. Like, don't worry about it. And so I'm not, I'm not really, I'm not pissed. I'm just like, Hey man, like,

It didn't go the way I thought. I stayed another year for this. And all the stuff I went through, I thought I was going to get drafted. But I got an opportunity. I just wanted an opportunity, man. You just give me a shot, man. Give me a foot in the door, basically. So it was funny enough, like five minutes later, I learned it was on the game again. So Rocket League is like the theme of the story. Pop back on Rocket League. We should really be thanking all the coaches because you got to play more Rocket League. Like if you'd been drafted in the first round, you'd miss out on two days playing Rocket League. Right.

So basically, man, like five minutes later, I get a call. The ID says Kansas City. I said, you know, it's a doctor on the phone. I believe it was Dr. Monaco. I believe it was. And he had interviewed me prior about the medical info. A doctor is on the phone. It's like, hey, man, I told you I call you like all happy. I was like, the hell do you want in my mind? Yeah. Like what's this about? I'm like another. So I just answered. It's like, you know, what up?

he's just like, oh, well, we're going to make you a newest member of the Kansas City Chiefs. And I was just like, what's this dude talking about? And so then when Mr. Hunt asked her to follow, I was like, hey, Trey, this is Clark Hunt. How are you doing? And I'm like, oh, this is real. I was like, oh, let me sign up. You guys post me with the team doc? Wait,

I can't wait to be down there. And then, you know, Brent Beach, Coach Reed, Andy Hack, you know, talked to all of them. And then it was just like, whoa, whoa, I just got drafted, man. And my sister was in the living room. She was the only one left in the house. So I'm running, hugging her in the living room. We're both freaking out together, like crying. And then I called my dad. I'm like, Dad, you won't believe this. Kansas City just drafted me. He's like, son, I love you. I'm so proud of you. And I'll be home in 10 minutes. I'll bring you chicken tenders for lunch. Yeah!

That's a hell of a celebration. Yeah, man. So my dry story wasn't perfect. Perfection. I love it, man. I have so much gratitude the way it went down, man, to help mold me to who I am today. Yeah. Shout out to Ashley for being in the room still there. I was about to say, a lot of people don't know this. Ashley, welcome me to broadcasting in the NFL. I met your sis out there. She was awesome at the broadcast boot camp. Yeah, I mean, just eat some chicken turns and go back to playing Rocket League, right? You just got drafted to the NFL. Exactly.

I remember because we had – that was – I mean, you look back on it. That was a great draft for us. I mean, obviously we got Big Creed who you learned to, you know, create the beast with and the interior with and everything. But that was a hell of a draft. And I remember everyone kept mentioning, hey, man, we got to steal. Yeah.

We got to steal. I don't know how he dropped the six. I don't know how he dropped, but we got him. And everyone's saying he's – I mean, the Hawks are giving him the thumbs up. Everybody's saying – and, bro, when you walked in the building and I saw how big of a human being you are, bro, I was like, what? This –

Good job, Doc. No way! Little did I know how much you would grow as a player your first year and just be the enforcer that you are. But, man, when I heard everybody talking about, we got to steal, we got to steal, and Veach was over here like...

I think we got a guy. I think we got a guy. He was just over there being Brett and having a blast talking about... Yeah, exactly. Our plan worked. Our plan worked. And we found a way to get you in the building, man. That shit was fun. Yeah, no, I was fired up, man. What was your first impression of Big Andy Reid, man? Oh, dude, it was...

So I played the Madden. It was a Madden 06 where he's in the front and I was like, it's like that one great play I was talking about. As a kid, that was the very first Madden game I ever had. Wow. The very first football game ever.

That's crazy. Huge, like, end of the game, Super Bowl situation, whatever it is, and, like, Coach Reese on the sideline, like, stop, like, reading his call sheet. Like, so that was my first taste of injury in my life. So getting to the Chiefs and I remember, you know, it was COVID once again, so everything was sort of different. So we were in the Eddard facility at

He was on, I guess, Zoom or Microsoft Teams or wherever you use that. He's just breaking down a play and was like, damn, that's Andy Reid, bro. That's really Andy. And, like, talking to him, you know, Coach Reid has, like, a way of making you comfortable, like, messing with you, bro. Yeah.

It was dope, dude. I was in disbelief, really. Like, man, I'm really – I'm here. Because, like, part of it is I watched you guys win the Super Bowl in Miami. I was with Dustin Colquitt and his buddies in Miami. Oh, yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You were in Miami. Yeah, through the University of Tennessee, they sent me down there. So I worked the event. It was, like, ushering people around. Colquitt and his buddies, like, found me. They're like, uh-uh.

So I watched it again. Yeah, so I watched it again. So, like, for me, it was surreal where it's like, what, 2019? I'm watching y'all win it. And then in 2021, here I am, walk through the doors, and I remember being at that game saying, man, how cool would it be to go play for them? And that's, like, the funny thing about Godward. Like, here I am, see you just later. That's awesome, man. Absolutely. That is awesome, man. What were your first impressions of Trav like?

Oh, shit. Everybody remembers the first time they meet Trav. That's a hard one to forget, usually. Just crazy energy, bro. What's up, man?

I was like, oh, he's off. I love this guy. You know what I mean? I don't want to, like, just say his stuff, but, like, bro, I was like, the one thing that I love, it was, like, early. It might have been against the Browns, bro. Like, it might have been my first game. You scored a touchdown. I, like, tapped with you and, like, slapped in your helmet in the end zone because you're just psycho, bro. Oh, I remember that. It go fucking nuts. You know what I mean? Like, I love it. So anytime Trav's getting the guys going, I'm just saying, like, mm-hmm.

I'm feeling it, bro. Let's get this thing rolling. So, for me, my dog, Trap, I mean, I think the one thing that I can speak about, especially as like a six-year-old Trap big young guy,

Which is how kind you are, bro. And you don't have to be that way. You really care for people. You're not afraid to give out your heart. Right. So I think that's the part that stood out to me where it's like, man, you look at your career trajectory, you're on, you are as a human being, but like you still make time for people. You still care for people. To me, that's what is falling to the person.

To me, that was really the biggest thing. Like, man, you never mistreated me or just sort of wrote me off or anything. It was always just like I've known you for years, man. I appreciate it, dog. It means the most coming from me, brother. Yeah. The best is yet to come, though, baby. Let's go. Fire me up, man. All right. Let's talk Patty Mahomes. Let's go into that. Yeah, bro. Yeah, let's talk some Patty Mahomes, man. What is it like blocking for old Patrick LaVon Mahomes II? Okay.

man it was a tough transition out of college like i wasn't used to somewhat extending the plays like that making somehow nothing like for me i struggled so much with just sustaining the block man folks heck you said get on me every day about not letting the egg timer in your head go off like he's he's one of the best they send the players ever do it like you have to just drive a drive so

For me, man, it was difficult at the beginning, but then, like, I think the best part about it is just watching his greatness. And it's not, like, the big moments, per se. It's, like, little stuff he does in practice, like, how the hell he throw that ball. How do you throw that? What play was it where he did it around the back to you? Yeah. Like, that's the greatness where it's like, who the hell is going to be able to do this other than him? He made me look so good on that play. Yeah.

knowing damn well that I was the one that fucked up the play to where he had to do something spectacular to make it look good.

And, yeah, no, you already know. That's one of a kind in that regard, man. Do you just – in your mind, do you have this like – I don't know. I feel like I have like a timing mechanism of like the first play. Like, all right, the ball should be out by now. It's almost like, all right, there could be two forms of this play. So it's like the initial play and then, all right, I got to – as soon as those like –

three to four seconds are up. Now I need to refocus, re-gear, do something else. Do you have the secondary play, the possibilities of it happening? Is it always in your mind during pass plays? Yeah, I definitely think so. It depends. A lot of times I play action games, such as all of that stuff.

gap schemes like pass or anything like that. Like for me, it's just like, I know I'm going to have a double team. I'm looking to help. Right. A lot of times with Pat, man, he's just going to keep extending and extending and extending. And a lot of times if you really just hold on, bro, he's going to make something huge happen. So for me, I agree with what you're saying, where it's like on paper, it might be like, it should be doom, boom, boom,

But sometimes it might be, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do,

Pat will see like a split front, like a two, three technique front. And if it's third and medium, he almost is like predetermined in his head that he's going to take off and go get the first down right up the gut. I've seen him do it multiple times. Yeah. Are you at the point now where –

You kind of anticipate stuff like that, or is it still like who knows what's about to happen? I think I'm still at that point sometimes where it's hard to feel it. I think like during the season, especially when he gets to this tendency box a little bit, I'm like, okay, I know last week he did it this way. I got to hold a little bit stronger to the inside because I know he's going to be right here. If so, it so happens, you know, if he gets flushed a certain way. Based on their rush games too, sometimes we know like they're trying to flush in a certain direction. Yeah.

I got to be a little bit firmer. For sure. I would say it's just adapting to him. But I think the main thing is always knowing that like, Ash is going to do something crazy back there. Like, you just got to figure it out on the fly, bro. But I will say last year, I really tried to adjust a little bit more. I get a little bit stronger inside. That's cool. And I feel like sometimes it's even just like a feel. Like, you don't know why you let go at a specific time.

As an offensive lineman, my biggest concern is getting a holding call. You're blocking a dude. You got a great block on him, and all of a sudden the quarterback scoots out. He reaches to grab him, and you think you're doing your job great, and all of a sudden there's a yellow flag by your feet. Yeah, or whatever. But then you play with guys like that for a while, and then you almost feel the lineman doing that, and you learn to kind of just let go. Not that it works every time like that, but there's a feel for it for sure. I don't know. Yeah.

That's an art, bro. It's tough. Like you said, there is like a little feel to that. A little nuance to it where you just, you know it's not. Has Pat ever made a play to where you got so excited you wanted to like fucking just like trap block and just like just got you so excited or like you wanted to just fuck! Like you remember the replacements, how like the linebacker would always do just like too much. He would always like want to headbutt the fuck out of somebody. Has Pat ever made you like go into that excitement and just like, yeah!

I got a couple plays in mind. One of them, bro, was when we played Tampa Bay and Tampa, when he spun off Devon White for that time. Bro, I'm just sitting there like, oh. Yeah, I'm like, this guy's an animal. It's an animal. It's like tiptoeing on the sideline, and they just threw a decline in the back of his head. What a man.

I'm sorry, bro. That was one. Yeah, like the flip pass. I've been like year two or something. I guess Denver. I want to say it was the jet or something. Jet might have taken it to the house. But it was like just a little flick. Like I remember Wiley. Wiley used to get JT and Wiley. Because JT gets fired up too. I know. Juwan is like the most chill cat I've ever met in my life. Once we get rolling. Oh, yeah. He's the next one. Yeah.

Wiley, there are a couple of times when we score or anything like that. I'm like, Pat, this one. Wiley would just attack me. It just beat the hell out of me on the side. Let's go, Wiley. But yeah, there have been a couple of times where I'm like, Pat, you're that dude. But it's hard to even grab him because he takes off the old soul. It's like, slow down. Oh, it's great.

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You want to talk some wrestling? Let's talk a little wrestling, brother. Little wrestling. Little wrestling, brother. Big WWE fan. You were at WrestleMania last year in Philly. When Jason got in the ring. Oh, really? Did you? You were at? Okay. With Jason coming out in the Timbs and the Jeans. The Luchador? Yeah, the Rey Mysterio. Dude, who were your guys growing up in WWE? Yeah, I love Randy Orton. Oh.

John Cena was a big one. Triple H. Weird one, but Kofi Kese. I used to love Kofi Kese. Probably like The Undertaker. So a little generic, but man, all those are my guys. But I love John Cena. I have the little wristband. Walker. Legend, man. You were that era right after...

like us like i remember when we were growing up it was like attitude arrow is that still the attitude era with john cena in them or is that a different era i always get the it's like the tail end of it i think yeah like for us it was like stone cold because he still had that personality mankind it was still called the wwf when we were like really growing up and then it just transitioned to wwe if you were going to build an nfl roster out of wwe let's just say wrestling superstars

Anybody from any era, what is your ultimate NFL roster looking like? Let's start with the quarterback. Who are we going with? Damn, this is tough. Go ahead. Let's hear it. For QB, go ahead and give me a surprise. Give me CM Punk. Ooh. Okay, boy. So you want somebody good at promos. You want somebody good at delivering promos. Okay, there we go. CM Punk. Let's start on linemen, bro.

All right. Mark Henry. Hey! Let's go. Yeah. Give me the big show, even tackle. Give me the great Khali at even tackle. Great Khali. Yeah, we're going to throw in a little bit of power and a little gas, Dan. All right? What about Andre the Giant? Where's he fitting in? Oh, we're going all the way back. Yeah.

All time. All time. All time. You can be the Andre the Giant in one of the tackles. We're talking just big six, seven footers. Yeah, exactly. We got the reach. The world's strongest man at center now. There you go. Oh, okay. There we go. There we go. Running back. Oh, my goodness. Give me Ray Mysterio.

Ravens cereal running back. That's what I'm talking about. We're not going for a lot of crazy. So we just need them to get in the gaps. There's going to be a lot of big guys up front. Just squeeze in and get – Just find – yeah. He's going to be like Darren Sproles. He's going to be like Darren Sproles. He's going to hide behind the line and then just peek on –

Zach, we're getting balled by the great Khali. There you go. Spin it up. Wide receiver-wise, that's where I'm going to struggle. What about tight end? Where do you think tight end? Because that's a definite WWE position. I think every tight end is a wrestling fan, it feels like. I'm just trying to think of somebody, man. I'm blanking right now. Do you think John Cena's fast? John Cena's fast? I don't think he's fast. I think he's going to be fast.

To be fair, though, I don't think many wrestlers are fans. I don't think that's what they go to wrestling for. The ring is only so big. Yeah. I think John Cena will figure it out at tight end. I think that's a good one. If that's your lineman size, it would be proportionate for John to be at tight end. Give me John. Who are we going for Robert Cena? John Cena!

Why don't you give me a coffee case? Okay. Okay. Give me R-Truth. R-Truth? Man, you're taking it. I don't even know these guys. I was thinking like a Jeff Hardy or like one of the Hardy brothers.

Flying off the top rope with the hair. Like a Triple H or – This team is running the fuck out of the ball. Triple H is the wide receiver. Yeah, I was going to say, we're going to run this block. We're going to run that block, y'all. What about The Rock? Who's The Rock? The Rock could play tight end or receiver. Yeah, I mean, you could put The Rock at tight end. I mean, honestly, bro, this would be crazy. Put more swab on wide receiver, putting us a lot. There we go. Yeah, we'll figure it out. There we go. All right.

That's fucking... I think that's a pretty good roster. That's what the XFL should have just done. They should have tried to get football players. They should have just done this. Send these guys out there and see how they go. That's right. Who would be your tag team partner if you ever were to join the WWE? Who?

Without a doubt, without fault, without question, Creed Humphrey. Creed. He's your tag team in the NFL. Why wouldn't he be the tag team in the NFL? You guys got it. What would your tag team name be? You guys got a team name? Ebony and Ivory. Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo!

Put it on a t-shirt. Put it on a t-shirt. Put it on a t-shirt. Oh, that is fucking cool. That's good. Oh my gosh. That's good. That's great. How did it come to you so quick, man? That was gold. Scott Luck. Goddamn, Ebony and Ivory, man. That is electric. It's all of you.

All right, big dog. Let's get to this last segment, man. I don't even know how to translate this. No topping that. That's going to be the best thing ever. Oh, man. Ebony and ivory forever, man. This is our last segment. We always close out the interviews with we got to ask, but you don't have to answer. You can tell us to fuck off on any of these questions, or you can just give us a quick answer, man. Let's start it off with what is your ideal KC barbecue plate?

Okay. I do a play. It's going to come from Jack Stack. I'm going to have to get lamb ribs, man. I don't know why, but they have the best lamb ribs. You say lamb ribs? Lamb ribs. I'm going to get in on these. Is that different than like lamb chops? Like what is the – they just don't cut them up? Yeah, it's just the rib part of the lamb. So like they do a dry rub season on it, but like super tender, man. Decent mommy of the bones. I'm telling you right now. I do like lamb. I do like lamb.

Lamb is great. Okay. All right. All right. I did not expect that from a Tennessee guy. I did not expect lamb ribs. I did not. Let me do the full result. So I'm going to do lamb from KC and burnt ends. Two from there, right? I'm also going to show a ton of love to Texas. I want half a pound of brisket at least.

At least. At least. I want a beef rib. A little piece of beef rib, all right? Beef rib is the best. That's my favorite. Oh, I love beef rib. And then finally closing it out for Memphis, that's where I would do my pork. So pork ribs, pulled pork, even like a barbecue chicken. That's my season on there. So everything. Yeah. Pork ribs.

It's broken law, but I can't pick one. What about sides? Where are we going sides? I got to have mac and cheese, baked beans. Give me slaw. Slaw. Slaw. Dessert? I think I know where you're going with dessert. I think the proper dessert is always going to be like a peach cobbler or banana pudding. I thought you were going banana pudding. That's where I go all day. I got to ask you this because we talked about this last week. When you think of barbecue, do you think of the Midwest or do you think of down south? I think down south. Bam! Bam!

But to be fair, Tennessee is the Midwest, to be fair. Oh, it's not. Tennessee is the Midwest. Take it back. No, I'll bless you. No, it's still down south, brother. It's still down south. To the original 13 colonies, I'll give you that. Yeah.

Today's day and age, I mean, it's right next to us. It is. It is close. If Ohio is the Midwest. It really makes no sense that Ohio is in the Midwest, right? Like, I don't know. It's on the eastern side of the country. It's never made sense to me. Either way. And then Tennessee is in the middle of the country. It's not down south. It's like smack dab in the middle. Yeah. It's the Middle East. It doesn't make sense. I don't know.

Talking more about food, you won the Kelsey Jam wing eating contest by a landslide. It wasn't even fucking close. Easy. So time out. What is this? Because I've dabbled in a wing eating contest. What was this? How many wings? What was the time? I think it was like a minute. I don't even remember. It wasn't that long. It wasn't that long. The dude you guys put me up against was a scrub, man. Yeah, he didn't have... I don't know how... I think he won a contest to get into it. I don't even think... He just won like a raffle. Like he got pulled out of the aisle.

I don't even know if he like ate wings like that. But it was still funny as hell. What was the competition? Do you remember? It's a winging contest. I know it was a winging competition, Travis. Trey, what was the deal? It was a wing stop deal. They had probably like 20 wings in a container and just as many as you could eat and then like fill it up in the sink. So I think the time limit was a minute though. It was a minute.

It wasn't very long. How many did you get down in a minute? Well, I could have gotten more, but based on his tempo, I was just like, you were just looking over like, oh, yeah. You were in cruiser's gear? This is getting crazy. I think I put down a try like seven, five or something. Easy. It was easy. So have you ever heard of wing bowl, Trey?

They did. So Wing Bowl was a Philadelphia contest they used to have, and the local radio station put it on because the Eagles were never in the Super Bowl. So the Wing Bowl was always the same time as the Super Bowl. They did it at Wells Fargo. It was shenanigans going on. It was at 7 in the morning. People would be drinking the night before. On a Friday. They would tailgate all fucking night. It was legendary. You wouldn't be able to do it again because there was all sorts of strip clubs and other things involved in it.

There were local superstars that developed into these large and light characters. Anyways, I competed one year in it. And the way the contest worked, it was 14 minutes, one round of 14 minutes. Then there was elimination, a second round of 14 minutes in elimination, and then a speed round of two minutes. So 30 minutes overall, you have to eat wings. Whoa. What? I ate 65 wings in the first 14 minutes. I'm thinking I'm killing it. 65.

I think he got fucking smoked. I was out in the first round, not even close. The woman who holds the record at Wing Bowl, take a guess at how many wings the winner of Wing Bowl won with. This is insane. This is a 30-minute time frame, keep in mind. 30 minutes. How many wings do you think she got down in 30 minutes? Shit.

If you ate 65 and got ELO, I mean, it's got to be like, touch you like 100, right? Bro, keep going. Oh!

Well, I'm not talking about the first round. This is all three rounds. Like she had over 200 in the first round. I'll give you that. In the first round. He got fucking smoked by over the height. Brandon, look up the record for wing bowl. Look up wing bowl record. Molly Skylar. Picture of this legend too. She's a beast. She's a beast. She's a, she's, I think she's from Omaha or something like that. She's just this tiny woman. Molly Skylar. In the ringer.

They flew in a ringer from Omaha? She qualified. She ate like 10 pounds of steak to qualify to get into the deal. No, this is like a big prize. This is a big event. Brandon, what was the – can you look this up, Brandon? They deleted all information from the Wing Bowl because of what they were doing inside that stadium. She ate 455 in the first 28 minutes. That's unbelievable. That can't be real. 501. 30 minutes. It's 501 set by Miley Schuyler at Wing Bowl 26th.

That was, how crazy is that though? 501 wings. I mean, that's unbelievable. That doesn't even seem humanly possible. Listen, I've seen Trey Smith fill up a few...

to go boxes. Every Thursday night. Dude, Thursday nights in Kansas City. The Pro Bowl shouldn't be playing flag football. It should have an offensive lineman wing eating competition. I want to see which offensive lineman in the NFL can eat the most wings. I'm with it. Yeah! I'd buy that ticket. Yeah, I'd fucking buy that ticket. Kingsley and I have a challenge because Kingsley said he's eating 80 in one sitting. What? Kingsley's doing what? That's a good guard. I like him sliding into guard then. Yeah.

Thursday nights are always my favorite after meetings because it's wing night in the facility. You can go in there and everybody, they listen.

The Kansas City chefs. Let's give it to them. Let's give it to them, yes. They put together a spread of like five to six different flavors, and they just keep bringing them out. They just keep bringing them out. And when I tell you everybody's just in there cracking jokes, having a good old fucking time, just smashing them. And then you see Trey walking out with fucking three boxes. Dude.

Good times, baby. Good times, man. The worst part is getting the peanut on the way back home. Oh! Jason, I'm telling you, you got to stop through the peanut at least one time before, like, next time you're in KC, man. It's like three minutes from the crib, man. I'll let it walk to him.

I'm in. You go to the one downtown or you go to the one around Plaza? Downtown location. Oh, yeah. It's classy, man. It got so bad that every time I stop in there on Thursday, like, oh, the usual, or I'll call. They'll be like, hey, is this Trey? I'm like, yeah. They'll be like, I will see you in about 10 minutes. Ha! Ha!

We got you, dog. Yeah, we got you. We'll make him fresh for you, big guy. Next question. O-line Mount Rushmore. Who are you putting on it? Ooh. Ooh. Whoa. Top four O-linemen in NFL history. Golly. We're putting it on the spot. Dude, I got to put Larry Allen in there. Rest in peace, Larry Allen. Yep.

for me. Everyone wants to be as strong as Larry, but no one's as strong as Larry. No one has the same as Larry. And deceptively athletic. That one play of him hawking down the interception. Oh my gosh. Yeah, I thought I was going to have one of those. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh, no, I'm not Larry. Okay. Dude, I want to put in Jackie Slater. Yeah. Okay. Nice, man. He's so big man for like 20 plus years. Coach has always talked about him and just look at his story. He's awesome. This is a personal one of mine. I want to put, I want to put Joe Thomas in there.

Joe T. You say personal. Why is that a personal one for you? Just like that was a dude I used to watch a ton in high school. I know the guy with Charles Bentley at the time told me, hey, you're not. What the fuck are you watching? So he set me straight pretty fast. I put Will Shields in there.

That's a great answer. That's a damn good Mount Rushmore right there. That is damn good. That's it right there, baby. Yeah, Joe. Dude, I love that you put Joe in there. I mean, one of the most underrated, if that's possible. Like, the guy didn't miss a snap for like 10 years. Can you think about, I mean, how outrageous that is on top of him just being. He didn't just not miss a snap. He was out there balling.

Yeah. And didn't miss a snap when they were like, Oh, and 15. And he's like, yeah, I'm still going to go out here and do my job because that's what makes it so great. That's what makes it so different. Legend, man. Oh,

Hall of Fame beef. He's got a farm. Dude, think about how crazy it is. He didn't miss a snap, and not one of those snaps was a playoff snap. Could you imagine? I don't even know why I'm making that connection, but it's just outlandish to me. All right, whatever. I'm sure he loves hearing that. Yeah, I know. I'm an idiot. I should have said that. All right, whatever. Who's the toughest guy you've ever had to block one-on-one? Aaron Donald. Yeah. A.D. What about somebody –

Maybe somebody in the media wouldn't expect. I would say Malik Collins, who was just recently looked at 49ers. Dude, I played him when he was young in Dallas and got to watch him get a lot better over his tenure there. And I agree. Yeah.

There's something about the, like you could tell he's smart and he's like, he's ahead of like what he wants to do. And I love that answer. Malik is a great player. Where's he at now? You said where? He's 49ers, but I don't know if he's there again this upcoming year. Yeah. He started in Dallas, I think. He's with the Texans the first time I played him. Then he went to, yep. Then he went to Houston. Then the 49ers probably. Great answer. Love that answer. Why do you,

Is there a reason? I just think for his size, his ability to move the way he does. And like you said, you can tell that he's anticipating what he's going to do for his moves. You know what I mean? He's sort of setting something up every time. And generally, guys that size are going to have the ability to move the way he does. And just like he's very proficient with his hands as well. So I always felt like he was a guy that...

He doesn't have the quote unquote like namesake and the accolades, but he's one of those dudes where you go to sleep on a bed, you're gonna have a long ass day. Like he really embarrass you fast. Yeah, man. I just respected him, man. I really respect him. That's awesome. Love that answer. Man, I gotta ask you, this just made me think of our guy, friend of the family, friend of the show. We got to actually get him on the show soon, but Colin Saunders. Yeah.

How was it going up against Sir Bink on Monday night this past year, man? Yeah, it was cool playing. He probably wasn't talking, right? He didn't talk much, right? No, Colin was locked in. He was. He was locked in. He was locked in. No, it was cool seeing Bink, man. Colin was probably one. He's got to go down as one of my favorite teammates I've ever had. Of all time. Just great dude, man. Funny. Unbelievably funny, man. It's always going to be a good time.

around bank, man. But that shit's funny as hell. Was it... I was going to say...

I can see him being locked in whenever I came across him on the field. But you already know, he is such a funny guy and such like a – I don't want to say a class clown, but he's here to have a good time while we get business done. You know what I mean? And he's got that championship work ethic and everything. But it's just – I don't know why it's hard for me to see some guys take it that serious. And for whatever reason – I mean, I saw it, but it just had to feel different for you going up against –

him as a saint instead of just in practice and stuff. Yeah, it definitely was a weird feeling those first couple plays, but I think the biggest thing is just like for me learning that like, man, if your buddy makes a play on you and makes you look bad, it's going to be even worse. So like, you can never, you know, you know too much about me. Yeah.

You got to be on your P's and Q's, man. Speaking of going up against guys in practice, what's it like to go up against Chris Jones? What was that first one-on-one like? Yeah, he gave me my welcome to the NFL moment. Yeah.

Yeah, let's put it like that. That was going to be our next question. You got to tell us about it. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, man. Going against Chris, like, obviously, you know the caliber of player he is. You know, I was a rookie coming into it. And I just remember, like, just being overwhelmed a little bit with, like, St. Joe's. It's your volume of plays you got to learn. It's hot as hell. Like, they're riding you every day. And then here you are blocking this guy.

All pro. So, like, best teams to tackle in the NFL. Like, good luck, Rook, like, figuring all this out. You know, and, you know, for me, it was just getting whooped repetitively to where it's like, okay, I'm learning. Okay, this works against them. Where I can't play them like this. But, like, I feel like the sort of mind to it all was I understand that as I go through the season, I'm not going to play Chris Jones. Yeah. Every single week. Every single week. Like, I might face, like, maybe one.

but there's only one Chris Jones. You know what I mean? So, like, for me, it's, like, understanding how to block them. But then also, the lessons, like, I'm over here, you know, grinding. It's like a long drive drill. We're in, like, play 13. He got something out. He's back in. And I throw a right hand. He slashes down and beats me. He's like at Pat's hips. And he just comes back. He's like, hey, look here, Rook. You got to get that hand to the outside. You know what I'm saying? And I'm just like, he going to come over and sweet talk you, man. You can't throw that outside. That hand too shallow. And it's like,

He just goes, wow, bro. It's like, what's going on, bro? Trey, I've been trying to tell you, you can't be doing that. That Mississippi accent, man. Yeah.

I love him, though, man. Like, I really, I'm so happy I get to go against that type of player every time because I know, once again, it just prepares me, bro. I'm not going to see that all the time. And, you know, just like that iron sharpens iron, right? I want to be able to go against the best. So, like, when it's go time and the bullets start flying, I already see something like that. But actually, you're not as good as him. So, let me show my guy.

Yeah, you ain't going to find too many people as good as him in the actual game. It's a good thing he's in practice. You like that? We saw him before he really started to develop a name. The year we actually won the Super Bowl –

I think it was one of his first games, like starting, starting. Yep. Bro, we didn't really prepare for it. We just like, we're like, Oh, we're just playing like a three technique. And like half of the game, I'm like, who in the fuck is this guy? Like, I was like, God, this guy. And then we watched the rest of the season. He's killing everybody. I was like, thank God. It's not just us. Let's do this.

nine five man that's fun trey i think we're good dog i appreciate you coming on giving us your time your stories man sir wish you the best when you already know going into a mini camp man we're gonna fucking turn this thing up get right back after it baby i'll see you next week man but appreciate you taking the time and jumping on and uh telling us all these fun ass stories man yeah man appreciate y'all having me on monday

You already know. I got back at it. That wraps up another episode of New High.

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