301. Sexual Health Optimisation: Erection Quality Hack You Need To Try!
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Welcome to the Boost Your Biology podcast. Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back to the Boost Your Biology podcast. Today, I'm super excited because we'll be talking all things male sexual health and specifically diving deep into erection health. Joining me in the studio today, we have the CEO and founder of my firm, Tech, Elliot Justin. Welcome to the podcast. It's great to be here.

Awesome. Elliot, I mean, when we first connected, you blew my mind when it came to measuring erections, understanding how they can impact our, you know, it's an insight into our cardiovascular health. But before we get into this, let's give us a rundown on how you became so interested in this, like the male sexual health space. Well, to some degree, I was born with it, Lucas. I mean, I

Don't know many doctors whose mothers took them to urologists when they were teenagers because their mothers were concerned they were masturbating too much. They wouldn't get into college. So I've always, you know, I've always been very, really interested in sex. When I first went to medical school, I ran up to the medical library and wanted to read about aphrodisiacs. And there wasn't exactly a long line of medical students behind me wanting to read the same thing.

Skipping ahead, I had a successful career in telehealth and remote patient management technologies. And I live in Montana, as I shared with you the last time, on my own horses. And I sometimes have this illusion that I'm one with my horse, that I'm a centaur. And that can be a very dangerous illusion. I don't recommend people cultivate that. Being one with your motorcycle can be very, very dangerous. Anyway, I broke six ribs and six vertebrae.

because someone had cut a tree that was over a trail so you could walk underneath it, but you couldn't ride underneath it. And if you're going, I'd say, 35 miles per hour on a horse, they don't stop on a dime. So as I was lying there on the ground, unfortunately, I had not damaged my spinal cord. I thought, what's been done to help men recover, or women recover from spinal cord injuries, specifically the sexual function? And there were five papers in what we call the medical literature, and I think we all know

after COVID that literature is the right word because most of it is fiction. But I was thinking, what's going on? And there were five papers that claimed that they planted an electrode by the cavernous nerve, everyone's favorite nerve no one talks about, the nerve that's responsible for sexual performance in men and women.

But no modulation is like cardiac pacemaking. And this really excited me. If we could pace human sexuality the way we pace the heart, we would have to worry about the degeneration of sexual health as I got older. We could perform like kids, like teenagers, even into our old age. So I tested this out on two rams, male sheep.

And I got erection and ejaculation, but we also got defecation and urination. So it wasn't exactly bedroom friendly. I mean, maybe in Sydney or New York City or LA or at London, but it wasn't bedroom friendly. So I then, you know, ordinarily what people do with this, they then raise the money and they go out to

Columbia or the Congo and they test this out on people. I don't want to do that. I want to test it out on myself. So I have a friend, a friend, a urology professor at the University of California, San Francisco, who implanted Electro by my pudendal nerve, my cavernous nerve, and I felt nothing. So I kind of think this research was bullshit, that it was what I call research mining, where people just look at looking for to raise money.

Anyway, a urology professor at the University of Utah heard about this and said he wanted to count the number of nocturnal erections that men have. And I, about three years ago, I said, really, what the fuck for? Why do we care about nocturnal erections? And we all know about morning wood. We laugh about it. But he told me about nocturnal erections.

are a leading indicator of man's cardiovascular as well as his sexual health. And that kind of took me aback because medicine would say leading indicator, we mean it's predictive. Not associated, but predictive. So if a man has five nocturnal erections and it goes to two or it goes from three to one or two to zero, that man has a 50% chance of having a heart attack in the next two years. So that's really powerful. In the rest of medicine, we treat associations, we chase numbers.

As you guys discussed the last time, I don't really care whether my blood pressure is 150 or 130. I want it to be on my coronary arteries. So to say, be able to track your nocturnal arrest is powerful. We've had two men I know, we know get cardiac catheterizations because their nocturnal is deteriorated. And we've had many men adjust their, pay more attention to cardiovascular health or adjust the medication the doctor prescribed them because of this data.

Incredible. So maybe, interestingly, Elliot, I mean, I guess when it comes to measuring erections, I mean, this is, I would say it's been recently popularized by Brian Johnson, right?

the world's most measured man. Did you want to sort of talk about like, you know, different ways that people can measure erections? Yeah, well, there aren't that many. So I want to focus on the ones that people do at home, which is what Brian's doing and we're doing. So you can go to a doctor. All the doctors have is an ultrasound, a Doppler in their office. And I don't know about you, Lucas, but I suspect like me,

If it's the technician with hair in the back of his hands and snaps on a latex glove and approaches me with a cold metal probe to put in my deck with some jelly. It's not the exact situation I experienced when I'm trying to have sex. So the doctors really have no way of assessing objectively sexual health blood flow specifically in this case.

So instead they have these subjective questionnaires that are about, hey, that aren't really worth very much because we want to know what's going on objectively. So our device is very different than the one that he's using. So our device can be worn during sex and his can't. And what do men really care more about? What's going on with the fucking and what's going on at night? His device, which is the Atom, his device can count the number of nocturnal erections.

and how long they last, but doesn't tell you how hard they are. Ours does all three. And Ours during sex tells you how long you last and how hard you are. So Ours is much more sophisticated, and our device is also a really good cock ring. So it's also a performance enhancer. So Brian makes claims, and I think with good intentions, that something aren't accurate. So we discovered, I don't know, Adam's database is really small. We have a database of

56,000 now almost 57,000 erections. And what the things we have learned contradict what Brian says. So Brian wants to say, gee, I've got the same number of nocturnals and I last just as long as my son. Well, that's great, Brian, because Brian, you run much better physical condition than me. You know, I'm not OK, but you're much better physical than me. But

My son and I have the same known nocturnal erections because he thinks he's making, this is what we've learned. This is really important for your, are we on camera here too? Yeah, of course. Okay. So, but no, no, no adult, no adult. I'm not going to stand up for sure. The number, the incidence of erectile dysfunction goes up 10% per decade after age 40, 50. Do we, do we have data understanding as like why that might be the case?

Well, we have assumptions, but we don't have data. And that's what I'm going to get at here. Because the assumption was, by the part of cardiologists and neurologists, is that as that number goes, as the incidence of erectile dysfunction goes up, two things would happen. One, the number of nocturnal erections would go down because men are getting more heart disease, diabetes, hypertension, atherosclerosis, other disorders. So the number of nocturnal erections would go down.

It doesn't, Brian. I hope Brian hears this, because he thinks that it goes down, and therefore, if he has the same number as his son or whomever, he has a dick of a 15 or 25-year-old, whatever it is. The other thought is that as the incidence of rectal dysfunction goes up, the hardness of sex erections, which he can't measure because he doesn't have the device, our device, the number of hardness of sex erections would also go down.

But it doesn't. It goes down slightly. So the thinking of cardiologists, neurologists is that it would go down because men have more heart disease and men have more urological diseases, prostate cancer, prostate disorders, things of that nature. But it doesn't. So what else could possibly be going on?

And I think it's on the other side of the circulation. Doctors are assuming that the problem is on the arterial side of the circulation. And I think, I know actually now from my data, the problem is on the venous side of the circulation. For most men, not all men, but a lot of guys with heart attack, you're taking multiple medications for your cardiac disease. I don't want to diminish losing weight, staying in good health, but I'm talking about most men. So,

And men can prove this themselves with this simply. I'll get to it in one second. Medicine often seems complicated, but a lot of the system is just about plumbing. So the cardiovascular system, think about the heart as a pump. We've got pipes coming out of it and pipes coming back into it. And when it comes to the blood pressure, all the...

Attention is on the arterial side of the circulation. That's what we treat because that's what pharma has given us tools, medications to treat. Or we think about pump failure and we have medications to make the pump stronger. But the other side of the circulation, blood coming back is also really important too. And what's going on in the penis as we get older?

we lose blood faster when we get erections. Now, Lucas, you're probably in fabulous condition. I'm not going to ask you to stand up and drop your pants. Don't worry about that. But I would assume that when you were 12 or 13 years old, I don't know about your sexual tendencies, but if you held a girl's hand, you get a hard-on for like an hour, and you get blue balls afterwards. I certainly did. And that kind of just disappeared in your 20s. Why does that fade?

It doesn't fade because our desire has changed. It doesn't fade because our libido isn't any different. It doesn't change because our testosterone suddenly drops off. And as some people speculate, what is going on? We're losing blood faster on the venous side. So as we get older, especially at my age, the smooth muscle around our small veins, our venules, they get weak, and our little venules get stiff. You can't – it's really – you can –

Stay well, you can live longer with exercise and other things, but it's really hard to work on the penis side of the circulation. So if I flew to Melbourne where you are,

My socks are going to get tight when I get off the plane. My rings are going to get tight because I don't pump blood back to my heart the same way. And the same thing is happening to the penis. Every erection, whether a man is healthy or unhealthy, involves ends with blood leaving the penis. And the answer is mechanical. It's a ring. And doctors are uptight and not thinking about cock rings. And I didn't – I wasn't thinking about this myself until a couple years ago because in order to come up with a way of counting no more nocturnal erections –

We have to reinvent the cock ring and change it from this unpleasant, uncomfortable silicone noose for your dick, who wants to lynch their dick, into something that would allow the arterial blood to come in, just constrain the venous return. So here's an experiment that every guy can do at home to prove this. Get yourself a rock card and then get a stopwatch and see how long it takes for your rash to go down. Now get yourself a rock card and put a cock ring on. And it's going to take a lot longer for the rash to go down.

And it's so obvious. And so often things in medicine are really obvious. But the urologist, this is not the way they're thinking. They're thinking pump failure or take a PD-5 medication, Viagra, Cialis. Those medications put more blood in the penis, but they're not really good at keeping it there. So there's a doctor, Amy Perlman.

She's in Miami. She has a longevity practice. And she just did an independent study comparing our maximum performance ring to tenosyalis, the most commonly prescribed PD-5 medication in the world. Our ring was equivalent, in effect, in lengthening erections, and two together was the best. I'm sorry I speak at length, but I felt it warranted a long explanation.

Interesting. What about in terms of some of the theories? I mean, there's oftentimes been discussion around the plaque buildup that occurs in the penile tissue as men age. Now, do you think this is like an inevitable fact, like this just naturally builds up as men age? Or what are your thoughts on that?

Well, it builds up elsewhere in the body, in other small arteries as well. And I think it's multifactorial. There are people who have genetic predisposition. Exercise can help. And obviously, obesity contributes to it as well, too. I think it's multifactorial. And whether I'm in Australia, the United States, the UK, there are a lot of fat people. It's really...

It's disturbing. It's really disturbing how poor people's diets are. And as a consequence, they have vascular disease that they didn't get in the past. What about in terms of, I mean, let's look at the, I guess you would have studied the evolution of like literally the development of like cock rings. Now, most obviously a lot of my audience is probably, I'm going to make an educated guess here that

Most guys within my audience probably don't use one. But did you want to sort of talk about the evolution of them? Because I honestly, personally, I've never worn one. Well, you need to put a ring on it. You'll see the difference. One of the jokes we have at medical meetings is how you tell the difference between a gay doctor and a straight doctor with one question. Do you use a cock ring? Gay doctor, last night, got a better one. Straight doctor, oh, I don't need that.

And that's, it's not about them. It's not, you know, my point to them is not about need. It's about want. And men need to wrap their minds around that. That cock rings are not just for gay men. And there's a reason why they use them because it's just so into the, you know, the much more into their dicks, but then that's not just for gay men, nor is it a fetish thing, nor does it is a reflection on your manhood. It's a mechanical thing. It's a, it's a performance enhancer. Even for guys who don't have a problem. I don't have ED. You don't have ED. I would want you to perform better. Why?

Why should you, why should Lucas, who has no problems, want a cock ring? Because you will get harder. Beyond rock hard, which you know, beyond rock hard, there's cock ring hard. You don't know cock ring hard. Now what does cock ring hard actually mean? I put on our ring, the maximum performance ring, and my girth increases by three or four millimeters. It's like that much, you know?

Now, no one's going to walk by. That's girth, not length. No one's going to walk by and say, oh, my God, porn star. But that's more blood than I can hold on my penis with my hand, my wife's hand, mouth, vagina, whatever. That's beyond rock hard. That's cock ring hard. And that little bit of extra blood still increases sensitivity more. Why else should you wear a cock ring? Because you're going to last longer. And at my age, I don't need to –

uh, in my mind a long time. I don't need to keep thrusting the status of my wife. I'm not, I'm not guy in the twenties, you know? So it's, but if I stay harder after I climax, it's a different mindset. The male, this is, this is now we're kind of moving out of realm of science into the area of intimacy and romance. The male mindset has come and done. And, you know, Hey, I've had an orgasm. Who texted me? I want, let's have a drink. Let's have a pot. What's what's let's go to bed. You know, it's just, that's, that's, that's the male mind. It's come, it's come and done a man who, um,

A man who's hard after he has a climax comfortably, he's in different states. If I stay hard for five, six minutes after I have an orgasm, that's time my wife and I are feeling more intimate, more bonded,

It's a more, the whole experience becomes more profound and we both dig it. So what's another reason to wear Cochrane? You're going to last long without stimulation because getting back to the fading erection problem, let's talk graphically. What do I commonly hear from my patients and from customers? I get an erection and these could be from guys who are fit or not fit. I get an erection, then I lose it. What happens when you lose it? Well, I'm going down to my wife or whatever, and then I lose it and it's hard for me to get it up again.

You put a ring on your heart with minimal stimulation. And that's a profound change for the overall experience. So you can now make love for longer periods of time. Both people are more confident. The woman or the male partner no longer has to worry about your pleasure. They can just focus on their own pleasure because you're going to stay hard. Lucas, put a ring on it.

That's going to be the new quote. That'll actually be the title of this podcast. Put a ring on it and then just an eggplant emoji. Yeah. The doctor who approached me, Dr. Hotali, he's a chief medical officer. He's what I call a Cochrane version, as are most doctors. It's like an aura ring for your penis, basically. Exactly.

Yes. It's like a dick bit. It's doing more than giving you data. I put an aura on. I'm not a better athlete. It doesn't help you sleep. Exactly. You put a cock ring on, you're going to be better. It's not like a vibrator. Vibrators to women are better. There's no

But it's important to me actually to mainstream cock rings, not because I want to make a lot of money, because guys need to think about cock rings not as crutches, but as performance enhancers and also a source of valuable data about the cardiovascular health and the sexual health. Talk about the actual score that men receive when they actually start wearing the ring. Sure. So we provide men with, we call it the erectile fitness score.

on a one to 10 scale. And anything above a 6.5 is good. That score is a combination of how many nocturnal erections you have, how hard are they, how long do they last, and how hard you get during sex. Do you hear me, Brian? Brian Johnson, he needs to get some real data for himself. So with that data, men can now assess the impact of diseases, medications. We've doctors prescribe stupidly, cock killing medications, antihypertensives, antidepressants,

without thinking about the impact upon a patient's sexual health. And you can measure that. And that's not to measure the impact of now of the, of the, the biohacker world without, you can't hack it unless you really can track it. If you, otherwise you're hacking, it's just based on conjecture. And it's also based. We doctors mistake we make is we treat everyone's at the one size fits all Lucas and Elliot, different ages, both men put them on both different health, put on the same blood pressure pill.

Well, that's what's going on, something in the biohack world. Try all this stuff, but we're all different. So the data you get off of the tech ring is your data. And we see this with therapies. There are men who respond to testosterone, men who don't. There are men who respond to shockwave therapy and the men who don't. Get data, establish a baseline, and then monitor the therapy. But I just spoke, I had a customer today ask me, what's the value of the ring for shockwave therapy?

And because the United States is expensive, it's probably expensive in Australia as well, too. It's six to twelve thousand dollars for the, you know, for cost of therapy. And I said, look, if you if you if you have three or four nocturnal erections per night, you know, it's not really going to benefit you. You might get a placebo benefit, but it's not going to benefit you. But also, if you have two or less nocturnal erections per night.

it's probably going to help you. And then as you get the shockwave therapy, you'll know when to stop. Right now, you don't want to stop the shockwave therapy. And that can get, you know, expensive as well too. Once you hit three or four nocturnal erections, you're good. You don't need to keep on going and going and going.

What about in terms of looking at the patients? Because obviously you've analyzed a lot of erections. You mentioned like 56,000 or so. What other information have you gained from those consumers that have really high erectile fitness score? Have you been able to curate any sort of data points about like dietary approach, herbal medicines, exercise routines, you know, things like that?

Lucas, that is a great question. And the data is there to be mined. And we have seven published papers and a bunch of other studies going on. And we're just starting to mine that data. Right now, we're looking at the impact of medications, PD-5s, blood pressure, antidepressants.

But that's a great point. I'd love to do that research with you. I would love to work with your patients, your clients, to assess that because that would really be valuable. We do know the only thing we've looked at so far are pelvic floor exercises and

What we've observed is, yes, these are not men in good condition. These are men with prostate disease or men with urinary incontinence from other problems. And there are claims made that pelvic floor exercises, squatting, squats, et cetera, will improve the blood flow and therefore their erections will get better. We're not seeing that. We're seeing improvements in their bladder problems, but we're not seeing an impact. But what would...

Again, Lucas, let's talk about this afterwards because let's look at this because I want to give people more positive information as opposed to telling them. If I had to theorize and also put together what I've learned from consulting hundreds of guys looking to optimize testosterone, let's just say this. If I had to look at specifically designing protocols just to enhance erection quality, like specifically blood flow,

then there would be a certain dietary approach that I would prescribe. There'd be certain foods like pomegranate juice, arugula, rocket,

You know, steak, red meat, you have to have that. Lots of cholesterol, eggs. Like I could design the perfect diet, even the certain types of peppers that can have an aphrodisiac effect. And then also integrating certain herbs and supplements like, you know, we've spoken about my new supplement, Catawaba. That would definitely be part of the protocol to optimize dopamine. Awesome. You got it. I just saw it three days ago. Go ahead.

Awesome. And then also like looking at different...

i have different protocols such as like nitric oxide boosters things that actually enhance blood flow but as you and i know erection quality is impacted by so many different variables you know quality of your sleep whether or not your nose is actually blocked guys with a blocked nose all the time don't generate nitric oxide sleep sleep apnea is one of the causes of erectile dysfunction all men with sleep apnea play women too

but have erectile dysfunction to some degree. It'd be really fun working with it because if you took two groups of men equally out of shape, and then one group, I would expect to see effects within eight to 12 weeks. And you just monitor their nocturnal erections and their sexual performance four to six times

a week or whatever, you know, it could be, it could even could be just per month and see, see where you are. I'm confident that what you're saying has some merit because we know that men are obese. One of the effects of obesity is that it suppresses testosterone releasing factor in the brain. They just, the brain don't produce less testosterone. And they, and they also, they have higher levels of the globulin that binds to testosterone in their blood. And they also have, they have more estrogen.

And it'd be fun to prove it because, you know, I'll pick on the doctors for a moment. The doctors right now are doing a disservice to men because they are prescribing things that hurt them, their sexual health, and the things that supposedly will help them, they're doing it without, they're just throwing drugs at people. In the supplement world, a lot of claims are made

And I don't, and many of these supplements are benign. I don't, you know, unlike SRI antidepressants or antihypertensive medications, the supplements that, which claims to be made for people's sexual health are benign, but it would be great to actually come up with a way of proving it, which is why I'm really so interested in your program that targets free tea. Because let's talk about the male refractory period for a moment. It gets no attention. There is no, there is a single human paper

about the mail or factory period. Now, you know, women will like to whine. Oh, we don't get attention paid to us. Go into any sex toy store. There's just walls of shit for women and nothing for men other than these stupid strokers. Go into, go to any health conference and the women are complaining about how we don't, we need more money on women's health. There's a lot of money thrown at women's health, not as much thrown at men's health.

But menopause attracts a lot of money. And we now know, and I think it's with standard of care soon, that testosterone is the answer because that's the hormone that women lose when they're even taking hormone replacement therapy, estrogen, and progesterone after menopause. They

The benefit of testosterone totally alters their libido and their refractory period. Men, as we get older, not only do we get venous leak and lose our erections faster, but the interval between our ability to climax deteriorates quickly and dramatically, and no one fucking pays attention to this. You know, I'll make up a number. You know, when I was 20 years old, I could probably –

come six eight times in a day and then when you're 30 it's about half of that it's like you know three or four obviously if it was someone new it's a little boost but if you're in a regulation when you're 40 it's maybe two or three 50 it's it's it's one to two i'm 71 i do practice what i preach i have i have sex every day and i can pump out two if i have to but it's it's not it's

It's not fun. You know, most guys I speak to, Elliot, on that topic say to me that they can only usually like bust a nut once a day maximum. That's the guys that I'm consulting and or working with and they're typically between the ages of 25 to about 35. So being able to do what you can at your age, I would say is like you're a complete outlier.

But I think part of it is that people need – you can't exercise smooth muscle in the gym. You can't work out the smooth muscles necessary for sexual play. And I've established really a habit. So I think these guys, they need to –

They need to work it, if that's like with a hand. But getting back to the refractory period, what's going on here? Why does this refractory period get longer and longer and longer? And people want to say, well, it's because testosterone levels overall are declining. And they are. But what's going on with free tea? So is free tea...

potentially, the answer to this changing refractory period. So right now, this is your world, doctors will say, okay, the total T, 1% to 2% of total T should be the free T. Where's the data for that? They say it. But that data comes from a very limited data set. Who are they looking at? What are the other medical problems that these men are having? So what we're seeing is that men who have

testosterone down to 150 total T don't benefit from increasing their testosterone. But that's what measuring total T is, not what measuring free T. And could free T be the answer that it is in women? I intend to try to figure this out.

I think looking at that, looking at the ultimate question, which is how do we reduce the refractory period in adults, in men? Obviously, there's quite a little bit of research on animal studies, looking at rat studies and mouse studies. They'll basically analyze ginseng, panax ginseng, there's mounting frequency, mounting latency, all that sort of stuff, and also reload time, things like that. But I think...

When we're looking at adults, human studies, and looking at what sort of impacts different hormones have on that refractory period, I personally think it's a combination of multiple things, like not just one specific pathway. Definitely free testosterone is important. But I personally think it's oxytocin levels. That's definitely going to play a role. Dopamine levels, prolactin levels, estrogen, DHT.

histamine, acetylcholine. I'm just putting together what I know. It's complicated. There is a small human study with Buprolactin showing it's not the issue. I'm looking for the magic bullet, which almost never happens in medicine. Just the way it came to me, it came to research that a good cock ring is the answer to many men's problems in terms of

sustaining erections, could there be a magic bullet? And could that magic bullet be free to you? It might not be. Lucas, I'm agnostic about this. But I want to know because that would make things so much easier for so many men as they get older. Because it's really hard to, when you're mentioning a whole range of hormones, neurotransmitters, it's hard to, one, it's hard to study them.

It's very hard to measure them in humans because what happens is they can measure metabolites in urine, but they can't actually measure which part. I mean, they can, but it's really invasive to be able to measure neurotransmitter levels in certain parts of the brain. That's where it gets really technical because you can have a lot of dopamine in one part of the brain, but then not be producing it.

in high enough quantities in the parts of the brain that are responsible for erections. I have a test group of guys here in Montana. I wish you were here. Maybe we could become part of the test group. And they range in age from, I'm the oldest, and the youngest guy is 29. And none of us technically have ED. We're just, everyone's in good health. And we tested oxytocin.

to see if it could decrease the refractory period. - Like a nasal spray or? - Yeah, yeah. - It got away, it stinks. It's really awful. - What sort of effect did that have? - It had none. - None. Did it have any effect on any other element of sexual functioning though? - All we looked at was nocturnals or time between climaxes. - But did it have any effect on the intensity of the orgasm though or the quality?

You know, I don't like, you know, I'm in the objective world. Them is the subjective world. In the subjective world, and I live in the subjective world too, and I recognize that that has an impact on the intensity. Our measurement is, did you get rock hard? And did you last long? How long did you last? Because we don't want rock hard premature ejaculation. So you're raising a good point.

but that's on this on the subjective side we also tried pt 141 six with six men um and nothing now i've had guys tell me that it's great but then the guys who also tell me well i had a new girlfriend or they're this they just they seem to be other factors

involved, I want, what we have, we just have men masturbate because we don't want all these other variables. New girlfriend, you had your wife's in a really good mood. You know, your boyfriend's and your boyfriend showed up with a bottle of champagne, whatever it is. We don't, we don't want those variables. We just have men masturbate. So maybe oxytocin does produce a more, a more intense orgasm. But we, that's, we didn't ask for that. We just, we just want to see, okay, now you've had a climax.

At one hour, two hours, series on, try to masturbate. Give five minutes, try to masturbate again for five minutes and see if you'll be able to climax. And if you go beyond five minutes, if you felt you could, I have to give up. It's like, you know, I gotta get hard again, but I'm not, there's no way I'm gonna have an orgasm. What about in terms of, I'm curious to hear, Elliot, I mean, obviously my audience is gonna be really interested in your specific products. And I'd love to learn about

What's probably like the best customer success stories you've heard? I mean, I'm sure you've had thousands of emails over the years, people talking about crazy benefits, you know, insane results. But is there like one or two particular cases or stories where you're like just completely blown away? There are two men who got cardiac catheterizations. Things to think about. The interesting situation too was both men had their wives buy the ring for them.

The wives bought the ring because they thought the guy's problem was physical and the men were blaming their wives. You're lousy in bed, basically, or you're overweight or whatever, you know, just demeaning them. And one guy had zero nocturnal erections.

And he got a cardiac catheterization. Probably a life-saving event for him. And she divorced him because she was tired of his shit because he was overweight, diabetic, hypertensive, and blamed his sexual problems on her. And another guy I went from, really good physical condition. This guy's a bodybuilder. He's 26 years old. I'm not going to mention his name, but he's in the southeast part of the United States. He's been a champion.

Uh, and he and his wife were trying to have kids and he was, she, she felt his performance in bed was weak. So you got a guy who's really proud, um, and, and says he's taught taking steroids in between, you know, train training for events. So she, she got the ring. He didn't want to put it on. She blew him, put it on him while she, and he fell asleep afterwards. And he, what he got, he got overnight and he was only having one nocturnal erection and that alarmed him. Uh, and he then, um,

had to fess up that he was taking anabolic steroids as well as testosterone and taking testosterone in high doses. Now, I don't think testosterone alone is that harmful. If you get guys, my experience, getting guys jacked up to 1,000, 1,200, no reported side effects except maybe a little bit of more male anger. But this guy, he was really high, and that interacts with the anabolic steroids. And he basically – he –

stopped everything, including his bodybuilding career. And now they have a child, which is great. We've had men with a guy who's 15 months status post prostate cancer. Nothing's working. Pumps, pills, you know, he's doing therapy. Nothing's working. He's given up the therapy for about four to six weeks. Contacts me and says, what can you do for me? And I said, well, probably not much, but we can confirm whether or not there's hope for recovery.

And he got, he had a couple of weeks, we wouldn't even call them erections because we have a threshold for calling erections. But I could tell on his waveforms that he had two weeks spikes. I said, just weathering every other night and monitor it. Two weeks later, he got one spike that was a 10. And then he realized that he is recovering. He started taking the Dalafil, resumed pumping.

And he was able to – he still loses erections. He uses the ring to sustain his erections. But that got him to resume sexual relations with his wife. So I go on. But it's really been satisfying. Yeah, I love hearing about the –

Yeah, the life changing impacts of some of these newer technologies, such as what you've developed here at MyFirmTech. I'm curious to hear, Elliot, in the future, I mean, you guys are looking at releasing new products all the time. Do you have any insights into what you'd like to achieve in the next three to five years? Well, we're working on a female product. There's no attention paid to the health of the clitoris.

And that's really astounding. So we have a device called a Clitique. I've got one here, my prototype here on my desk. And this is going to do for women what the tech ring does for men. Yes, we're going to have a sensor inside the vagina so we can measure PCG muscle contractions, orgasms. That's nice. And there's a vibrator, one vibrator, the lioness that already does that. But no one is looking at blood flow in the clitoris. So with this data, women have more problems than men do when it comes to sex.

Why? Because premenopausal women take birth control hormones and they take anti-SRI antidepressants that kill the libido. These fucking things should not... These are bad. Bad, bad. It blows my mind. They're so bad. I get probably like one or two messages a day talking about how they've crippled their libido. So with data, women will actually be able to see, oh...

I went from, I'm making up a number, I went from four or five nocturnal erections, colorections at night to one. Why am I taking this hormone? Or this antidepressant? The impact's going to be dramatic for women because women are actually more into the health than men are. Women are, I'm not going to say they're smarter, but they're more reactive to the health than men are. But postmenopausal women have all the same problems that men do with diabetes, hypertension, medications, et cetera. So giving them data, this is going to transform their

gynecology and sexology, the way we transform, the way our device is transforming urology. But on the other side of things, we're adding sensors that will make our device smarter. So we're going to be able to tell you next, certainly Q1 next year, we'll be able to tell you cardiac rhythm.

overnight just wearing the device. And that would help for cardiovascular health. We're going to be able to tell the oxygen content of your blood. Well, now we're moving to sleep apnea in your world. And we're adding a accelerometer for gamification. So that means with the accelerometer, you get it. We can tell what positions you're having sex in. So it could be, hey, Elliot,

You know, you're on your back every night. Your wife might want to change up. Or it could be, hey, Lucas, you haven't worn a ring for a month, Lucas. What's the problem, man? Fucking put a ring on it. Or it could be the –

hey, it's really interesting. The rugby is really interesting. Which rugby team is the firmest rugby team in the world? I know those blacks think they're really great, but are they really better than the Aussies? Who's harder? People are going to have a lot of fun with it. And there already are some gay men in the United States who are already using it for that purpose. What about in terms of looking at

The educational side over the years, I mean, you guys are probably going to start to look at, I mean, providing your clients and customers with educational material. Are you guys sort of trying to expand in that area?

we're just starting so we are giving people notifications about the data we we have alerts on both sides so it could be la direction your erections are 20 higher whatever you're doing medication wise whatever you're doing diet wise or exercise wise is having an impact and for vice versa if you if your performance deteriorates nocturnal and central point theories we send we send notifications

And that's valuable. Now as we add sensors and more data, that will expand. That's why it would be great to work on a study with you because if we took two groups of men really out of shape, we really could start to learn what works and could give these guys encouragement to change.

Yeah, I'm really excited. I mean, I think you guys are definitely exploring an area that I guess is kind of swept under the rug quite a lot, particularly guys. I mean, generally speaking, big egos that I want to talk about this, that I want to discuss, you know, how long they last, that I want to talk about.

They think that a semi-hard erection is also considered to be normal as well, which is both you and I know that it's not. And it's also a sign that something's not right. It could be a circulation thing, could be a prostate thing, could be a dopamine, many different causes. But long story short is that it should be like 90% to 100% hard on demand, basically.

That's right. You should, you know, I hit a 10 every time. You, Lucas, I'm sure you hit a 10 every time. And the average for a man my age is nine by our data. And the average for a man your age, excuse me, average for a man my age is eight. Average for a man your age would be nine. And frankly, if you were, if a man in New York's physical condition went from a 10 to a nine, you would,

It should be not that alarming. Even those stats there, I feel like they might be overinflated, generally speaking. Guys, I don't think a lot of guys even know what a 9 or a 10 actually is like because a lot of them have just adjusted to this new normal of it's actually not as good as what they think it is in terms of fullness, girth, and strength as well.

uh i you know what it really surprised me with that data that the um men your age the average was nine not ten i would think you know what's i don't know why i'm no something i'm not maybe that is what it is but i'm skeptical yeah no interesting well um ali it is an absolute pleasure having you on the podcast here today i guess um

For my listeners, they're obviously going to want to learn more about your website and if they want to get in touch, where can they connect? Sure. You can reach me personally, Elliot, L-L-I-O-T, at myfirmtech.com. You can go to website, myfirmtech.com, go to the science section.

And you'll see the research that's been done. If you sign up to our email list, most of our mailings are about science. Yes, we do promote product, of course, but most of our mailings are about science and technology.

I reckon I think if men are interested in sexual health they're gonna there's a lot to learn uh about it from you know from following our site just a heads up for for my audience um if anyone has actually already purchased TRT free the course that I've outlined at the testosterone optimization course I'm actually planning on uh reintegrating this particular technology into the course because I think looking at the big picture no pun intended um I think that the my firm tech

deserves a particular spot in the sexual health optimization part of that course. And what Elliot basically mentioned there, if anyone actually wants to get in touch and or check out the website, I will leave that linked here in the podcast show notes.

But otherwise, guys, thank you so much for tuning into today's podcast. Elliot, any final words for my audience? Yeah, I have to finalize. Put a ring on it. Put a ring on it to get the data about your sexual health and put a ring on it to improve your performance. Even if you think you're great, you can go. Things can be greater because all men get Venus League syndrome. All men get fading erections as they get older.

Awesome. Thank you, Elliot, for coming on the podcast. And for those listening in, please do leave this episode a five-star review if you did enjoy the episode. And as always, please share my content. That's it for me today, guys. I look forward to seeing you in the next podcast.