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冲嘴儿 | 吐槽《再见爱人4》节目组对麦琳和李行亮的双标

2025/1/10
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雨薇:我认为节目组对麦琳的恶意点评以及嘉宾的争议性观点令人愤怒。节目组和弹幕对女性的恶意攻击已经过分,对麦琳的攻击更是上升到人身攻击,忽略了女性在婚姻家庭中面临的结构性问题和创伤,将所有责任归咎于个人。节目组和大众对男性情感隔离的容忍度高于女性情绪表达,这与社会环境有关。我认为李行亮很自私,冷漠,用逻辑掩盖情感隔离,没有真正尝试去理解麦琳的情绪,只是用外在行为掩饰,缺乏主观能动性。父权制社会对男性的压迫导致男性在情感表达上免责,女性承担了更多的情感劳动。黄执中在节目中的言论充满恶意,对人不对事,放大麦琳的责任,忽略李航亮的责任,并存在双标,带节奏,引导网暴,缺乏反思,行为恶劣。黄执中诡辩,使用大概念掩盖具体问题,放大麦琳责任,忽略李航亮责任。节目组的伦理处理很糟糕,没有反思自身问题,将所有责任归咎于参与者。需要坦诚面对过去,接纳创伤,才能更好地理解自己和他人,原生家庭的影响很重要。对李行亮这样的“好好先生”的建议是:先倾听伴侣的情绪,再讲道理。李行亮的行为模式让人感觉他以自我为中心,忽略了麦琳的情绪需求。将麦琳的行为模式与自身母亲的经历联系起来,理解麦琳的行为动机。 若西:我一开始讨厌麦琳,但后来转变了态度,因为我发现网络暴力过甚,麦琳也有真诚和自我反思的部分。节目组将麦琳的行为简单二元对立,忽略了女性面临的结构性问题和创伤,将所有责任归咎于个人。需要了解原生家庭,才能更好地理解伴侣的行为模式,并找到解决问题的办法。

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Why did the hosts criticize the show's treatment of Mai Lin and Li Hangliang?

The hosts criticized the show for its double standards in handling Mai Lin and Li Hangliang's relationship, particularly in the final episode. They pointed out that Mai Lin, who shared her experience of being abandoned as a child, faced harsh and malicious comments from both the audience and the show's guests. Meanwhile, Li Hangliang's emotional detachment was largely ignored or even justified, reflecting a broader societal issue where male emotional isolation is normalized while female emotional expression is scrutinized.

What was the hosts' view on Huang Zhizhong's comments about Mai Lin?

The hosts expressed strong disapproval of Huang Zhizhong's comments, accusing him of being malicious and biased against Mai Lin. They noted that Huang consistently avoided addressing the specifics of Mai Lin's situation, instead resorting to broad, abstract concepts that painted her in a negative light. The hosts felt that Huang's approach was unprofessional and lacked empathy, particularly when dealing with sensitive topics like trauma and emotional labor in relationships.

How did the hosts describe Li Hangliang's behavior in the relationship?

The hosts described Li Hangliang as emotionally detached and unwilling to truly understand Mai Lin's feelings. They criticized his tendency to use logical arguments to deflect emotional issues, creating a barrier between them. The hosts also noted that Li's actions, while seemingly well-intentioned, often failed to address the core of Mai Lin's emotional needs, leaving her feeling unseen and unheard.

What did the hosts think about the show's handling of emotional labor in relationships?

The hosts criticized the show for failing to address the issue of emotional labor, particularly in the context of Mai Lin and Li Hangliang's relationship. They pointed out that Mai Lin's emotional labor—her efforts to maintain the relationship and address Li's emotional detachment—was largely ignored, while Li's emotional isolation was not treated as a problem. The hosts argued that this reflects a broader societal tendency to undervalue women's emotional labor in relationships.

What advice did the hosts give to people in relationships similar to Mai Lin and Li Hangliang's?

The hosts advised individuals in similar relationships to focus on understanding each other's emotional needs and past traumas. They emphasized the importance of open communication and empathy, suggesting that partners should listen to each other without immediately resorting to logical arguments or defensiveness. The hosts also stressed the need for both parties to take responsibility for their emotional well-being and work together to address underlying issues.

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本期节目讨论了《再见爱人4》中麦琳和李行亮的最终抉择,以及嘉宾对麦琳态度的转变。Rocio分享了她对麦琳态度转变的经历,从最初的反感,到最后理解麦琳的真诚和内心创伤。
  • Rocio对麦琳态度的转变
  • 麦琳的真诚和自我反思
  • 网络暴力对麦琳的恶意攻击
  • 节目组对女性情感焦虑和男性情绪隔离的双标

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大家新年好!本期节目跟大家聊一聊《再见爱人4》节目组对于麦琳和李行亮的点评,特别是在最后一期“最终抉择”的节目,面对麦琳被抛弃的经历,嘉宾们是如何处理的。 节目中,我们特意吐槽了黄执中从第二季张婉婷到第四季麦琳的“情绪性”表达的恶意。 这期节目不追求客观,只是不吐不快。 欢迎把你的想法和感受在留言区里告诉我。 【本期话题】 02:34 Rocio作为一名普通女性观众对于麦琳态度上的转变 11:22 节目组对于女性情感焦虑和男性情绪隔离的双标态度 20:47 女性在婚姻家庭/亲密关系中的情感劳动是被忽略的 28:14 黄执中对于张婉婷和麦琳的恶意满满,还鼓动网暴 31:26 黄执中的诡辩在于概念先行,对具体案例避而不谈 47:05 李松蔚作为节目组心理学伦理的顾问处理的很糟糕 50:48 节目组没有把情感隔离当成一个问题,变相在提倡 57:25 如果遇到了一个像“麦琳”伴侣,“李行亮”们该怎么做 【支持创作】 爱发电 搜索“邱后算账” 【互动分享】 欢迎把你的想法、感悟和问题发至:[email protected] 【加入社群】 添加wx:mollyqiuctb,备注:社群+入群原因,即可申请加入社群信息,有机会和更多小伙伴交流相关话题和参与到更多精彩活动中来。 【节目介绍】 主题曲&结尾曲:SEVDALIZA MAD WOMAN 其他收听平台:网易云音乐|喜马拉雅|Apple Podcast|小宇宙|爱发电 搜索“邱后算账” 邱雨薇:爱勇不息CouragetoBecome创始人|关系咨询|媒体人 邱后算账:从对话中去探索爱与关系的不同可能性 公众号:CouragetoBecome