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The Inside Story of Sam Altman’s Firing–and Rehiring–at OpenAI

2025/4/7
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Elliot Brown: 我是华尔街日报的金融记者Elliot Brown。最近,美国关税给全球市场带来了冲击,对全球最大的人工智能投资者之一——软银——造成了严重的打击。软银将自己定位为科技界的伯克希尔哈撒韦,持有大量其他公司的股份。然而,其最大的资产——芯片设计公司ARM——的股价在过去几周大幅下跌,这使得软银的财务状况更加紧张。软银对OpenAI的300亿美元投资,以及高达500亿美元的数据中心计划,都面临着更大的财务压力。关税导致的半导体供应链压力,使得软银对OpenAI的投资承诺变得更加困难。虽然人工智能行业目前投资热情高涨,但软银的谨慎态度可能会对人工智能行业的未来发展产生影响。信用评级机构也对软银的财务状况发出了警告。 Keach Hagey: 我是华尔街日报的记者Keach Hagey。Sam Altman在OpenAI的短暂解雇和复职是2023年秋季科技界最令人震惊的事件之一。有效利他主义,一种试图用数据来决定如何最好地帮助人们的哲学,近年来越来越关注防止失控的人工智能带来的风险。OpenAI的成立部分源于这些担忧,但其发展速度引发了内部对安全问题的担忧。董事会解雇Sam Altman的原因既有长期存在的权力斗争,也有短期内对安全问题和管理问题的担忧。董事会对OpenAI的安全程序和Sam Altman的信息披露表示担忧,认为他的一些行为具有欺骗性,例如未披露其个人拥有一个创业基金。OpenAI的首席科学家和CTO也向董事会反映了对Sam Altman管理能力和行为的担忧。董事会低估了Sam Altman被解雇后内部和外部的反应,未能有效沟通解雇原因,并低估了OpenAI内部对Sam Altman的支持,以及临时CEO对董事会的反抗。虽然OpenAI在之后设立了新的安全程序,但仍失去了一些关注安全问题的员工。Sam Altman是一位杰出的融资专家,这在他的职业生涯中起着关键作用。

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Welcome to Tech News Briefing. It's Monday, April 7th. I'm Victoria Craig for The Wall Street Journal. Tariff fears that have ripped through global markets are punishing one of the world's biggest investors in artificial intelligence. We'll examine the implications that could have for the future of AI funding. Then, the inside scoop behind OpenAI co-founder Sam Altman's tumultuous relationship with the company's board that led to his very brief ouster.

First, investors aren't so sure about SoftBank's all-in approach to artificial intelligence. Shares of the Tokyo-based tech conglomerate have shed about 20 percent of their value in the last roughly two weeks. First, there were doubts over a $30 billion commitment to open AI. Then, the Trump administration announced a sweeping package of global tariffs that has rocked confidence in the AI supply chain.

WSJ finance reporter Elliot Brown explains the impact all of that is having on SoftBank. Elliot, there are real worries now about these U.S. tariffs. If they do stick, that could be a real blow to SoftBank. Basically, SoftBank, they like to think of themselves as a Berkshire Hathaway of tech. So they just own a lot of stakes in other companies. And essentially what's happening is their biggest holding is this chip design company called Arm.

And arms shares have really been hammered in the past few weeks. And so then that makes life a little more difficult for SoftBank because then they're worth less. It's hard for them to borrow. So that pushes SoftBank's share price down, too. So they have been going all in. They've committed $30 billion to OpenAI, which is by far the largest investment ever in a startup industry.

And then they've also announced this, depending how you count, $100 billion or $500 billion plan for data centers, essentially, with OpenAI that sort of still needs a fair amount of funding.

With this OpenAI investment and the tens of billions of dollars that SoftBank has committed to it, when that deal was announced, there were already worries about how that could affect the business, whether it was a good investment altogether. But now with semiconductor supply chains under pressure because of these tariffs, is this investment commitment from SoftBank to OpenAI becoming more difficult? How does SoftBank look at that now? It's making it harder for them.

SoftBank is led by this maverick investor, Masayoshi Son, who just absolutely loves taking enormous risks and he loves betting the farm on things. And he is really doing that with AI. It was a lot easier to do that a month and a half ago. They do have a lot of cash, but they're going to really have to use some large chunk of that for this. And they're going to be more strained if they're really going to fulfill all their commitments. They're going to have to sell other assets, have

to borrow more. So it makes things more perilous for them. And you can see that in just like the credit rating agencies. So there were two ratings agencies in the past week that came out and sort of in various ways warned that this is going to hurt their financial position. And what does it mean more broadly for the AI industry? If SoftBank is really the one sort of gung-ho about investing in all of these companies that many people see as maybe more risky investments,

What does it mean for the future of the AI industry under threat from tariffs and now the biggest investor if they become more cautious? Well, the good news for AI is that it's in the middle of, despite this, this just extraordinary frenzy. And so there's just hundreds of billions of dollars that have pledged to go to build out data centers. So I can't fathom that, you know, if everyone keeps up with at least some of their commitments, we're going to be short of money going into AI. But it at least is not the sort of

all systems go rocket ship emoji vibe that we were looking at a month ago, two months ago. That was WSJ finance reporter Elliot Brown. Coming up, how the CEO of the hottest tech company was unseated and resurrected. The inside story on that one after the break.

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Sam Altman's very brief firing as CEO of OpenAI rocked the tech world in the fall of 2023. Since then, the only thing we've really known about the reason for it was that the board alleged he had not been, quote, consistently candid. In a new book to be published next month, WSJ's Keech Hagee reveals the drama behind Altman's shocking departure and reentry into the company he co-founded.

So, Keech, reading through your piece, this excerpt of your book that we published in the journal, this concept of effective altruism through the lens of protecting humanity from any potential harm from AI is really a through line in the story. Can you just walk us through, for people who aren't familiar with Sam Altman...

what this concept is and his approach to it. So effective altruism is basically like a kind of a cousin of utilitarianism that emerged in the early 2010s that basically tried to decide how best to help people using data. And it started out trying to solve global poverty and in recent years has become increasingly interested in trying to prevent runaway AI from murdering humanity, what they tend to call existential risk.

So this is not all effective altruism, but it's become an increasingly dominant strain in it. And in many ways, OpenAI, the company that Sam Altman co-founded and is CEO of, was founded a little bit out of these worries and ideas. They were not effective altruists themselves, but the whole point of OpenAI was to make sure that when AI was developed, it would be safe and have these checks and balances to make sure that it didn't get out of control.

The sort of fascinating thing is, as OpenAI became more successful and released ChatGPT, there were people inside the organization, especially those that were focused on AI safety, that were really worried they might be going too fast. And Sam got these warnings from friends like Peter Thiel right before he was fired that these types of voices were threatening to destroy the company. And it's that issue of safety that brings us to Sam Altman's abstractions.

ouster at OpenAI briefly. Walk us through what led to the board's distrust. I know there are many prongs of this, but what led to their distrust in this co-founder of this company? So the way to think about it is there are long-term reasons and short-term reasons for the board's decision to fire Sam Altman. The long-term reasons were a little bit about just basic power struggles at the board. Who was going to be on the board? Who's not going to be on the board? And even though Sam didn't have

equity, he had just a lot of de facto power. So there was a little bit of tussling there. And then there had been a number of safety breaches or moments when the board felt that they were not alerted about problems in the safety procedure, and they didn't feel like Sam was telling them all the information, especially when it came to safety, which was extremely concerning to them as the technology that OpenAI was putting out was getting better and better.

especially GPT-4, which was starting to look to people increasingly close to this idea of AGI, artificial general intelligence, that the company was set up to create. The board felt that some of SAM's

actions were deliberately deceptive. For example, he set up a startup fund himself personally that he owned and the board didn't realize that he personally owned it and it took them many months once they got a hint that this was going on to figure that out and the whole thing was kind of a mess and led to some loss of trust. So those are the longer term reasons.

And the shorter term reasons are that two people came forward to the board. One was the chief scientist and co-founder, Ilya Setskovor, who's on the board as well, and Meera Moradi, the CTO, to speak about what they saw as Sam's sort of failures as a manager and some toxic behavior in their view. And this is really the first time that any of us are really getting an inside look at

at what happened in those days before and the immediate aftermath. It seems like from your reporting that the board really miscalculated the reaction both inside and outside to Sam's ouster. There were a number of miscalculations. One was just a basic communication issue that

they were not able to communicate the reasons why beyond saying that Sam had not been consistently candid with the board, which was basically saying that he had lied to the board. They couldn't say about what. And that was sort of a messaging problem that ended up just being untenable. And another miscalculation was that they believed that Mira Marotti would

stand up and calm the company, get it through a six-month period while they look for a new CEO, because she had stepped into the interim CEO role. And they were absolutely shocked when, within hours of them firing Sam, Mir Marotti was leading an executive committee mutiny against the board, asking why was Sam fired. And they felt like they couldn't tell the room, well, you know...

We've been talking about this on secret calls for weeks now. So they just did not expect that at all. And some of those safety concerns, does it seem like those things will be resolved with the new company structure or with Sam now returning to the helm? So in the months afterwards, the company did set up new sort of safety procedures quite publicly and made a big show of, look, we care about safety. We're putting these things in place now.

They did lose a lot of people in the months afterwards who were really concerned about safety. And a lot of these folks are sort of whistleblowers that came forward and said, "OpenAI is moving too fast."

They are kind of going off the rails on safety. So you've seen less of this drip, drip, drip of leaks that had happened in the months after the blip. And what you're mostly seeing from the company now is just product releases and the virality of their new image generator. Your book, The Optimist, Sam Altman, Open AI, and the Race to Invent the Future is out in May. What else can readers expect to learn about this man who looms so large over the AI industry?

The portrait of Sam that emerges in the book is really of a master fundraiser. That is his superpower. That's what he's been able to do from his first startup, which he founded in college. He got funded by Sequoia Capital when he was a sophomore in college, which is like the preeminent venture capital firm in Silicon Valley. So what he's able to do is raise these enormous sums of money.

Opening Eye just did the largest venture capital fundraise ever. And I think we're going to continue to see that because he's still a very young man and he has a long way to go. That was WSJ reporter Kee Chaggy. And that's it for Tech News Briefing. Today's show was produced by Jess Jupiter with supervising producer Emily Martosi. I'm Victoria Craig for The Wall Street Journal. We'll be back this afternoon with TNB Tech Minute. Thanks for listening.