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TikTok Had a Tumultuous Year. What’s Ahead in 2025?

2024/12/31
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Julie Chang: 本期节目讨论了TikTok在2024年面临的诸多挑战以及2025年不确定的未来。美国最高法院将裁决一项旨在以国家安全为由禁止TikTok的法律是否违反了美国宪法第一修正案。该法律要求TikTok剥离其中国所有权,而其母公司字节跳动拒绝这样做。当选总统特朗普呼吁最高法院暂停禁令,寻求谈判解决。 Georgia Wells: TikTok面临的挑战源于其中国所有权引发的审查。多年来,TikTok一直在与美国外国投资委员会(CFIUS)谈判,试图达成协议,但未能成功。之后,国会立法要求字节跳动出售TikTok或面临禁令。特朗普的态度转变,他如今认为禁止TikTok会侵犯数千万美国用户的言论自由权。TikTok首席执行官还寻求了埃隆·马斯克的建议,因为马斯克与中国有强大的商业联系,这可能是TikTok与特朗普建立联系的一种方式。TikTok面临的挑战不仅在于满足美国对其所有权的担忧,而且任何行动都必须得到中国政府的批准。 如果TikTok被禁,应用程序不会立即消失,但应用商店会将其下架,用户将无法更新应用程序,这会导致安全漏洞等问题。美国政府的担忧更多的是国家安全问题,而许多普通用户并不关心这些问题,并且对这些长期存在的问题已经麻木。 TikTok还面临增长放缓和广告销售未达预期的问题,这些是其他社交媒体公司在发展壮大时面临的常见挑战。字节跳动的估值达到3000亿美元,但地缘政治风险对其资产估值的影响尚不清楚;如果地缘政治问题得到解决,TikTok的估值可能会进一步增长。加拿大政府采取了不同的策略,关闭TikTok在加拿大的办公室,但允许该应用程序继续在加拿大使用;印度此前已经禁止TikTok;如果美国市场成为其他国家效仿的先例,TikTok将面临严重问题。 最高法院对TikTok禁令或强制剥离案的裁决将对美国以及其他来自中国的流行应用程序产生重大影响。 Belle Lin: (Belle Lin's contributions are integrated within Georgia Wells's analysis in the provided transcript and are not separately identifiable as distinct core arguments.)

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Why is TikTok facing a potential ban in the U.S. in 2025?

TikTok is facing a potential ban in the U.S. due to national security concerns tied to its Chinese ownership. The Supreme Court is set to decide whether a law requiring TikTok to shed its Chinese ownership or face a ban violates the First Amendment. The ban is scheduled to take effect on January 19th, 2025, unless the court intervenes.

What is President-elect Donald Trump's stance on the TikTok ban?

President-elect Donald Trump has asked the Supreme Court to pause the TikTok shutdown process, arguing that keeping TikTok operational would preserve the First Amendment rights of its tens of millions of U.S. users. This marks a reversal from his 2020 stance, where he sought to ban the app via an executive order.

How would a TikTok ban affect U.S. users?

If a TikTok ban is implemented, the app would remain on devices where it is currently downloaded but would be delisted from app stores, preventing new users from joining. Existing users would not receive updates, leading to an increasingly outdated and potentially insecure app over time. The app would not disappear immediately but would become less functional.

What are the business challenges TikTok is facing in 2024?

TikTok is experiencing slowing growth in the U.S. market, with user growth stagnating for the first time in its history. Additionally, while ad sales are meeting growth targets, they are not exceeding them. These challenges come amid ongoing geopolitical scrutiny and competition in the social media landscape.

How has TikTok's parent company, ByteDance, been affected by geopolitical risks?

ByteDance's valuation reached $300 billion in 2024, but geopolitical risks surrounding TikTok's ownership have created uncertainty for investors. If these issues are resolved and TikTok remains in the U.S., its valuation could grow further. However, the company is caught in a political bind, as any actions it takes must also be approved by the Chinese government.

What is the significance of TikTok seeking Elon Musk's counsel?

TikTok's CEO sought Elon Musk's counsel due to Musk's strong business ties with China through Tesla. Musk's influence could potentially help TikTok navigate its challenges with the incoming Trump administration. This highlights TikTok's strategy of leveraging prominent business figures with connections in both the U.S. and China.

How have TikTok users responded to national security concerns?

Many TikTok users, particularly younger ones, have not been overly concerned about national security issues or the potential ban. The concerns raised by the U.S. government, such as data privacy risks tied to Chinese ownership, do not resonate as top-of-mind fears for most users. This has led to a sense of desensitization among the app's user base.

What are the implications of TikTok's potential ban in other countries?

TikTok has faced regulatory challenges in other countries, such as India, where it was banned, and Canada, where its offices are being shut down while the app remains available to users. If the U.S. ban sets a precedent, it could trigger a domino effect in other major markets like the EU, U.K., or Japan, posing a significant threat to TikTok's global operations.

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The episode discusses the looming Supreme Court decision on TikTok's ban in the US, focusing on the potential impact on users and the app's future. The discussion also touches on TikTok's attempts to navigate political challenges and its current user response.
  • Supreme Court to decide on TikTok ban in January 2025
  • Ban could violate First Amendment rights
  • TikTok's parent company, ByteDance, refuses to sell its US business
  • President-elect Trump requested a pause on the ban
  • TikTok's user base remains largely unfazed by the potential ban

Shownotes Transcript

We’re hearing from our reporters and columnists about some of the biggest companies, trends and people in tech and what could be in store for 2025. The social-media app TikTok faced no shortage of challenges in 2024, and it faces an uncertain future in 2025. WSJ reporter Georgia Wells joins Belle Lin to talk about what could happen to the app and how a ban could affect users.

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