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Auschwitz: How Holocaust survivors are preserving history

2025/1/27
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Dov Foreman: 我和我的曾祖母Lily Ebert在TikTok上分享了她在大屠杀中幸存下来的故事,旨在纪念历史,但也因此面临着大量的网络辱骂和仇恨言论,这凸显了在网络时代保护历史的挑战。我们通过分享她的故事,希望能够让更多人了解这段历史,并防止类似悲剧再次发生。然而,我们也必须面对那些否认大屠杀的人,以及他们散布的错误信息和仇恨言论。 Lily Ebert: (虽然Lily Ebert本人没有在访谈中直接发言,但她的故事贯穿始终,是核心论据的一部分)我的故事是真实的历史,不容否认。我们必须将这段历史传承下去,让后代铭记,避免历史重演。 Jordan Dunbar: 奥斯维辛集中营是纳粹大屠杀的中心,超过一百万人在那里被杀害。大屠杀是纳粹对犹太人的系统性迫害和种族灭绝的结果,这与纳粹逐步剥夺犹太人权利的政策,以及二战期间对欧洲其他地区的占领密切相关。我采访了多位大屠杀幸存者,他们的证词有力地证明了这段历史的真实性。然而,如今关于大屠杀的错误信息和否认信息在网上大量传播,这使得保护历史的真实性变得更加重要。我们需要通过教育,特别是培养年轻人的数字素养和批判性思维能力,来对抗这些错误信息。幸存者们的故事,以及他们展现出的韧性和希望,也为我们带来了鼓舞。 Andy Pearce: 应对关于大屠杀的错误信息和否认信息,需要根据语境,仔细倾听对方陈述,判断其动机(恶意或无知),并选择合适的回应方式。如果对方怀有恶意,改变其想法的可能性较小;如果源于无知,则可以通过引导其学习真实历史来纠正错误。重要的是要对自身知识有信心,并从可靠的渠道获取信息。

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This chapter provides a brief history of Auschwitz, explaining its role in the Holocaust and the 'Final Solution', the Nazi plan to eliminate Europe's Jewish population. It details the systematic persecution of Jews, leading to their confinement in ghettos and eventual transportation to extermination camps like Auschwitz.
  • Auschwitz was the most infamous Nazi concentration and extermination camp.
  • The 'Final Solution' aimed to eliminate Europe's Jewish population.
  • Auschwitz's operations involved a systematic process of transporting and murdering Jews and other prisoners.

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2025 marks 80 years since the liberation of the Auschwitz-Birkenau death camp. It was at the centre of the Nazi campaign to eradicate Europe's Jewish population, and almost one million of those who died there were Jews - but Poles, Roma and Russian prisoners of war, among many others, also perished at the camp.

Memorials, historical documentation and testimony from survivors help preserve this troubled history. But disinformation and cultural amnesia mean many people deny that the Holocaust happened.

We hear from BBC presenter Jordan Dunbar, who visited the Auschwitz-Birkenau camp in Poland for a BBC documentary. He has been speaking to survivors of the Holocaust. He tells us about how this disinformation is spreading online, and what’s being done to preserve accurate accounts of history.

Plus, we also hear from Andy Pearce, an associate professor and historian at University College London’s Centre for Holocaust Education, about how to approach conversations where Holocaust misinformation or denial is present.

Instagram: @bbcwhatintheworld Email: [email protected] WhatsApp: +44 0330 12 33 22 6 Presenter: Hannah Gelbart Producers: William Lee Adams, Benita Barden and Emilia Jansson Editor: Verity Wilde