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Fortnite, Darth Vader and the use of AI voices in gaming

2025/5/21
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William Lee Adams: 我认为机器学习的进步使得游戏公司能够使用AI来重现角色的声音，例如《堡垒之夜》使用AI重现达斯·维达的声音。这引发了演员权益的争议，需要进一步探讨生成式AI对游戏产业的影响。我了解到SAG-AFTRA对《堡垒之夜》使用AI提出了投诉，他们担心AI会取代真人演员的工作，损害演员的权益。我们需要关注监管机构对AI的监管，以及如何平衡技术发展和保护演员权益。 Liv McMahon: 我认为SAG-AFTRA对《堡垒之夜》的投诉，核心在于游戏公司在未经工会同意的情况下，使用AI取代真人演员的工作。这引发了对AI可能导致配音演员失业的担忧。我认为演员们担心无法控制自己的数字复制品，以及失去对其未来使用方式的控制。我认为人们普遍反对各行各业的公司使用AI来完成通常由人类完成的工作，因为他们希望从内容中感受到人情味。我认为配音演员和游戏行业从业者正尝试与工会合作，以谈判更好的条款和保护措施，确保AI的使用经过他们的同意，并有明确的限制。 Larry Cutler: 我认为生成式AI使得游戏中NPC角色更加丰富，且变化速度比几年前更快。我认为过去，AI系统非常复杂，且为每个角色定制；而现在，借助生成式AI，可以嵌入大型语言模型（如ChatGPT）并进行微调，以适应特定角色个性。我认为LLM可以根据用户输入即时创建响应，这些响应以文本形式呈现。文本响应需要通过文本转语音模型转换为语音，该模型可以选择不同的预设声音。最近，我们能够通过让演员说台词来训练模型，从而克隆演员的声音，且训练文本转语音模型所需的数据量越来越少。 Alistair McGowan: 我认为你必须了解角色，而不仅仅是声音，因为声音反映了你灵魂的一切。声音中反映了一切，你能通过声音判断一个人的状态。AI能复制人类的灵魂吗？

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The use of AI to recreate Darth Vader's voice in Fortnite has sparked a controversy. SAG-AFTRA, a major actors' union, filed a complaint against Epic Games, raising concerns about job displacement and the lack of negotiation regarding AI's use. The union emphasizes the need to protect voice actors' rights and ensure fair compensation in the age of AI.
  • SAG-AFTRA's complaint against Epic Games over the use of AI voice in Fortnite.
  • Concerns about job displacement for voice actors due to AI technology.
  • The importance of negotiations and fair compensation for AI voice usage.

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One of the biggest unions in the world representing a diverse range of creative professionals, including actors and voice artists, has filed a complaint against the makers of the video game Fortnite over its Darth Vader character. Epic Games used generative AI to recreate the voice of the Star Wars villain, after the late actor who played him in the film franchise signed over the rights in 2022. But Sag-Aftra says the gaming company should have negotiated with them first - and is worried the rise in AI could lead to job losses.

BBC tech reporter Liv McMahon tells us more about the row between the union and Epic Games and explains why the growing use of generative AI is being met with backlash in the entertainment industry. We also hear from Larry Cutler, the co-founder of Baobab Studios, a multiple Emmy-award-winning animation studio that has worked on games like Roblox and Fortnite, to find out how voice cloning technology works.

Instagram: @bbcwhatintheworld Email: [email protected] WhatsApp: +44 0330 12 33 22 6 Presenter: William Lee Adams Producers: Mora Morrison and Chelsea Coates Editor: Verity Wilde