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India's Relationship with the U.S.

2025/5/20
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Greg Dixon: 我认为印度过去一直认为与美国保持着良好的关系,但最近发生的一系列事件,例如美国宣布对印度征收关税(虽然目前暂停)以及驱逐在美非法印度移民,给印度的这种看法带来了冲击。这些事件无疑给印度总理带来了政治上的困扰。 Dia Hadid: 我走访了印度西部,了解当地人对美国的看法。许多印度人为了获得美国签证,会去签证寺庙祈祷。同时,有大量的印度移民没有合法身份进入美国,他们中的一些人甚至不惜冒险偷渡。特朗普政府的遣返政策,特别是以镣铐押送的方式,震惊了许多印度人,引发了政治抗议。尽管如此,许多印度人仍然渴望前往美国,即使机会渺茫。 Mari Ben: 为了让我的女儿能够去美国,我们全家卖掉了土地,还借了许多钱给走私者。我们冒着巨大的风险,只为了能让女儿过上更好的生活。 President Trump: 作为总统,我的职责是保护美国的安全和利益。因此,我必须履行我的承诺,将数百万的非法移民遣返回他们的祖国。这是为了维护法律的尊严,也是为了确保美国公民的福祉。 Arnab Goswami: 那些罪犯应该受到怎样的待遇?难道我们要用头等舱和香槟把他们舒舒服服地送回来吗?他们非法进入美国,就应该承担相应的后果。 Rajesh Rajagopalan: 莫迪政府对驱逐事件保持沉默,这实际上是一种政治生存策略。与特朗普政府对抗可能会带来不利的后果,印度不希望成为下一个加拿大,被美国针对。当前,印度更应该专注于与美国达成贸易协议,以避免特朗普政府可能征收的关税。 Jayash Chaudhary: 在我们古吉拉特邦,许多村庄的发展都得益于在美国的印度裔美国人的捐助。这向我们表明,在美国是可以创造财富的。即使曾经发生过一家人为了偷渡美国而冻死在边境的悲剧,但人们仍然会继续尝试,因为他们相信,只要尝试,就有成功的机会,而成功就是到达美国。

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Recent events, including the imposition of tariffs and the deportation of Indian migrants, have strained India's relationship with the United States, challenging the previously perceived 'cozy' relationship and creating a political headache for Prime Minister Modi. Experts analyze Modi's silence as a political strategy to avoid further conflict with the Trump administration.
  • 26% tariffs imposed by the U.S. on India (currently suspended)
  • Deportation of Indian migrants from the U.S. in shackles and chains causing political outcry in India
  • Prime Minister Modi's silence on the deportations interpreted as a political survival strategy
  • Concerns about potential further conflicts with the U.S. administration

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This message comes from NPR sponsor Rosetta Stone, an expert in language learning for 30 years. Right now, NPR listeners can get Rosetta Stone's lifetime membership to 25 different languages for 50% off. Learn more at rosettastone.com slash NPR. Today on State of the World, India's relationship with the United States.

You're listening to State of the World from NPR. We bring you the day's most vital international stories up close where they're happening. I'm Greg Dixon. India thought it had a cozy relationship with the United States. Prime Minister Narendra Modi calls President Trump his friend.

But like many other countries, India has been dealt some blows by the U.S. Earlier this year, 26% tariffs were announced. They're currently suspended. Then the Trump administration deported dozens of Indian migrants who were in the U.S. without legal status. They were sent back to India in shackles and chains, causing a political outcry. NPR's Dia Hadid takes us to western India to hear how people there feel about the U.S. now.

A man gives his passport to a Hindu priest in a visa temple in the western Indian city of Ahmedabad. The priest prays to the monkey god Hanuman for this man's visa application to America to be accepted. There are many visa temples across India and some prayers must be answered. Indians form America's second largest migrant group after Mexico, numbering some five million people.

There's also Indian migrants in the US without legal status. Their numbers range from 200,000 people to three quarters of a million. Many snuck through America's borders, like Mari Ben's daughter. We met Mari Ben on an Ahmedabad roadside. She sells clay pots for 40 cents profit apiece.

Her daughter had bigger dreams. Her daughter and her husband sold their land, borrowed cash and paid traffickers to sneak them into America with their two children. Marivan doesn't give her last name. She fears she'll accidentally identify her daughter and risk her deportation.

And deportations are what President Trump promised. We will begin the process of returning millions and millions of criminal aliens back to the places from which they came. Just days after his inauguration... We are now getting some breaking news on the broadcast. Dozens of Indian nationals were deported in three military flights. Men were shackled and chained in footage shared by Border Patrol set to ominous music.

That shocked many Indians because the Prime Minister Narendra Modi boasts of his friendship with Trump. His political rivals goaded him. Opposition MPs protested outside the parliament with some even wearing chains. The government said it had raised concerns with the US about deportees being shackled and officials say thousands of Indian nationals have been deported in the past 15 years.

But Modi himself has not commented publicly on how this latest batch of deportees were treated. And India's pro-government media suggested these people deserved what they got, like broadcaster Arnab Goswami. How do you want...

criminals to be treated. Perhaps, he mocked, these people must be brought back first class with a glass of champagne in their hand. Analysts say Modi's silence is a political survival strategy. Rajesh Rajagopalan is professor of international politics at Jawaharlal Nehru University. It's easier to hide rather than seek confrontation with the Trump administration. He

He says a spat with Trump might end badly. We don't want to be targeted either. I mean, we don't want to be another Canada. We don't want to be Canada. Analysts say India has bigger problems, like finalising a trade deal they hope will eliminate tariffs that Trump has promised to slap on most Indian goods. But as Modi steers India through this Trump administration, this political headache may keep erupting because Indians may keep trying to reach America.

Many of them come from Gujarat, the Prime Minister's home state, like Dinguacha Village. During a recent visit, cows ambled by as kids whacked a ball in the main square. Many Dinguacha residents live in the US and evidence of their prosperity is everywhere. Just about every building has been donated by Indians who live abroad. The Hindu temple, the water tanker.

and the municipal building. Inside, Administrator Jayash Chaudhary says it's Indian-Americans who've developed in Gurcara, and that signals to folks here that fortunes are made in America. Just from this village, one family, parents and their two children froze to death three years ago as they crossed into the US from Canada during a blizzard.

Relatives of that family were recently deported on a Trump administration military flight. Chaudhry says if there's a 1% chance of success, people will keep trying. Try and try will be success. And success is reaching America. Diya Hadid, NPR News, Dhingucha. That's the state of the world from NPR. Thanks for listening.

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