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The Epicenter of the COVID Outbreak Five Years Later

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Greg Dixon: 本节目回顾了新冠疫情爆发五年后武汉的现状,探讨了这座城市在疫情中的变化与未变之处。节目从疫情爆发地——武汉华南海鲜市场出发,展现了这座城市在疫情五年后的面貌,以及人们对疫情的记忆和感受。 John Ruich: 记者John Ruich回到武汉,探访了华南海鲜市场等地,发现新冠疫情仍然是这座城市一个敏感的话题。许多人拒绝就疫情相关问题接受采访,反映出政府对疫情信息的控制和民众的顾虑。雷神山医院作为疫情期间的标志性建筑,如今被废弃,计划拆除重建,这象征着武汉试图从疫情中恢复的复杂性。 Lacey Zhao: 赵女士讲述了她家人在疫情早期感染新冠病毒的经历,以及她父亲在医院去世的悲痛。她认为政府在疫情初期隐瞒了疫情信息,导致许多人未能及时采取防护措施,造成了不可挽回的损失。她对政府的不作为和缺乏透明度表示强烈谴责。 Wendy Li: 李女士讲述了她丈夫死于疫情的经历,以及她与其他家庭成员试图起诉政府未果的经历。她对政府缺乏问责和赔偿表示不满,认为政府试图掩盖真相,逃避责任。她希望能够为丈夫讨回公道,并呼吁政府正视疫情的教训,避免类似悲剧再次发生。 John Ruich: 记者John Ruich的报道展现了武汉在疫情五年后的复杂面貌。一方面,这座城市在经济和社会生活方面恢复了正常,人们试图从疫情的阴影中走出来;另一方面,疫情的创伤依然存在,许多人对政府的处理方式心存不满,对未来充满担忧。

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What is the significance of the Huanan Seafood Market in Wuhan regarding the COVID-19 outbreak?

The Huanan Seafood Market is considered Ground Zero for the COVID-19 outbreak, as the first cluster of cases was identified there. Many scientists believe the virus originated from animals in the market, though there is still debate about its exact origins.

How has Wuhan changed five years after the COVID-19 outbreak?

Wuhan has partially moved on, with life returning to normal rhythms, such as retirees practicing ballroom dancing in public spaces. However, the trauma of the pandemic remains pervasive, and the city still grapples with the emotional and political aftermath of the outbreak.

What happened to the Leishenshan Hospital, built during the early days of the pandemic?

The Leishenshan Hospital, a 1,600-bed facility constructed in just 12 days, now sits abandoned and overgrown with weeds. It remains classified as 'secret' or 'confidential,' and there are plans to tear it down and replace it with new apartments.

What are the lingering effects of the pandemic on individuals like Lacey Zhao?

Lacey Zhao, a 43-year-old Wuhan resident, continues to experience trauma from the pandemic. Her father died from COVID-19, and she spent 40 days in the hospital. She believes the government's lack of transparency contributed to her family's suffering and feels that many in Wuhan have moved on, but she cannot.

What is the Chinese government's stance on the origins of COVID-19?

The Chinese government denies any cover-up and has floated theories, such as the virus being brought to China by American military athletes. However, many scientists and U.S. intelligence agencies believe the outbreak originated in Wuhan, with some pointing to the Huanan Seafood Market as the likely source.

How have families affected by COVID-19 in Wuhan sought justice?

Families like Wendy Li's have attempted to sue the government for its alleged cover-up, but their cases were dismissed. Many feel isolated and believe the government is hiding the truth to prevent further discussion or accountability.

What is the official narrative about Wuhan in the aftermath of the pandemic?

The official narrative portrays Wuhan as a 'city of heroes,' emphasizing the resilience and sacrifices made during the pandemic. However, this narrative contrasts with the experiences of many residents who feel abandoned and seek acknowledgment of their losses.

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You're listening to State of the World from NPR, the day's most vital international stories up close where they're happening. It's Monday, January 6th. I'm Greg Dixon.

It's been five years since the consequential outbreak that at the time, NPR described this way. Health officials in Beijing say a cluster of mysterious illnesses in central China may involve a new strain of virus that includes SARS. That mysterious illness was, of course, COVID-19, and the virus caused a global pandemic. The epicenter of the outbreak was the city of Wuhan in central China.

NPR's John Ruich went back there five years on to get a sense of what's changed and what hasn't. Many scientists think Ground Zero was here at the Huanan Seafood Market, where the first cluster of COVID-19 cases was identified. The building still stands, surrounded by a makeshift blue wall. The seafood market part of it, the ground floor area is closed, but upstairs are glasses stores. We're going to see if we can get in.

There are dozens of shops on the second floor selling eyeglasses and contact lenses. We asked several people working here if we could interview them about life in Wuhan today, but everyone refused. In the city where it all began, at the very place where the deadly pandemic may have started, COVID remains a sensitive subject.

In some ways, it seems Wuhan has moved on. In others, it seems like it can't. The official narrative is that this is a city of heroes. In the early days, that spirit was embodied in part by the Leishenshan Hospital, a 1,600-bed facility that was built in just 12 days as cases mounted.

Today, the one-story prefab wards sit empty behind a fence, overgrown with weeds. We walk the perimeter, and a guard says no pictures are allowed. The abandoned hospital is still "bao mi," he says, secret, confidential. We stop at a convenience store that faces the hospital. A clerk who only gave her surname, Li, says she's heard it'll soon be torn down and replaced by new apartments.

She thinks they should at least leave a monument of some kind, though. But who knows? On the surface, life in this city of about 11 million people has returned to more normal rhythms. In the evening, retirees practice their ballroom dancing in a plaza. They wear big smiles, tight pants, and appear carefree.

For 43-year-old Lacey Zhao, though, trauma from the pandemic is ever-present. We meet at a coffee shop near the dancers, and she says she thinks most people here have moved on. But she can't. Not completely. Now it's...

In December 2019, weeks before the pandemic was declared, her extended family met at a restaurant to celebrate the coming Lunar New Year. There were rumors of mysterious pneumonia cases around town, but they didn't think much of it.

Officials were saying nothing. But a few days later, her father developed a fever. Then she got sick. We were among the first group of people infected. COVID-19 was already spreading in December, and she believes the authorities knew it. But they kept the public in the dark. Beijing denies a cover-up. This is a matter of no concern.

People didn't know anything about it. We didn't know that the virus was highly contagious, deadly, and spreading rapidly. We knew nothing. If the government had been open and honest, she says, her family might have avoided that fateful gathering. That meal ended up changing the lives of our families. Zhao's father died days later in a hospital hallway.

Zhao herself spent about 40 days in hospital. And Wuhan was sealed off from the outside world for more than two terrifying months. When the lockdown was finally lifted in April, the authorities said 3,869 people had died of COVID in Wuhan. That tally never moved again. Scientists and U.S. intelligence agencies say that they have overwhelming evidence that the outbreak started in Wuhan, though there is still disagreement over exactly how it began.

Many scientists point to genetic and epidemiological evidence that the virus came from animals in the Huanan market. Others think it's likely to have leaked from a lab in the city. But we talked to people in Wuhan who believe a theory floated by the Chinese government that American military athletes brought the virus to China. Zhao says ultimately the authorities don't want to be challenged. When her family and others tried to build a memorial, the government blocked it.

They want it to be forgotten, and they're hiding the truth so that no one will ever bring it up again. Across town, Wendy Li says her husband died in that first wave, too. Her family joined others in late 2020 to try to sue the government for the alleged cover-up, but the case was thrown out. They're troublemakers in the eyes of the authorities.

She asked NPR to use her English name and alter her voice because she's worried about repercussions for speaking out. You call this a city of heroes. So does that mean my husband was a hero? And how do you treat your heroes? There's been no compensation, she says. The government has never admitted wrongdoing. Li says the experience of loss and injustice has left her isolated. It's lonely.

There are things we cannot say to others, and even if we do, they won't get it. Li has a daughter in middle school, and she hopes she'll eventually go abroad and leave China to live, Li says, with dignity. As for herself, she's lost hope that there will ever be justice for her husband, but she feels strongly about one thing. I believe that as a human being,

I should leave some kind of trace. I'm not an animal or a tool. Stories from the early days of the pandemic need to be told, she says. And she thinks until the authorities address the root cause and take responsibility, a tragedy like COVID-19 is all but guaranteed to happen in China again. John Rewich, NPR News, Wuhan, China. That's the state of the world from NPR. Thanks for listening.

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