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Moving Fast and Breaking Things

2025/6/3
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Justin Fanelli:我认为不应该将商业技术的采纳视为简单的平衡,而应该将其视为一个需要优化的投资组合,以实现期望的影响。我们需要关注那些能够快速迭代和适应的技术,以应对快速变化的需求。评估采购的重点应该是结果和实现结果的速度,而不是仅仅关注公司的新旧或规模。我们应该根据结果来衡量成功,而不是仅仅关注投入。目标不是简单地与公司会面,而是要找到最佳的影响,并尽快将其转移给作战人员。有时需要改变方法才能更快地达到目标。应该让供应商展示他们所能带来的不同,而不是仅仅依赖传统的评估方式。我们希望通过节省他们的时间来展现我们对海军官兵的重视。我们使用的一个以结果为导向的指标是用户节省的时间。我们希望商业公司能够量化他们的技术为海军官兵节省的时间。企业服务的关键在于找到真正优秀的解决方案并规模化,同时淘汰那些不值得发展的方案。

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The Navy uses a portfolio approach, balancing commercial off-the-shelf solutions with custom needs. They prioritize speed and impact, measuring success by outcomes rather than inputs like munitions used. This involves a shift in prioritizing and meeting thousands of companies to find the best solutions.
  • Portfolio approach to technology adoption (commercial vs. custom)
  • Prioritization based on speed and impact
  • Outcome-driven metrics instead of input metrics

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"Innovation adoption is a contact sport." As the chief technology officer of the Department of the Navy, Justin Fanelli is one of the leaders responsible for ensuring warfighters have access to bleeding-edge solutions. Listen to his conversation with Ryan Evans, recorded live at an event in Washington, DC — our first episode of Cogs of War, a new vertical on defense tech and the defense industry brought to you by War on the Rocks and supported by Booz Allen Hamilton.

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