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Iran’s options, uranium stockpiles and Trump on regime change

2025/6/23
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Kim Van Nel: 在美国袭击伊朗核设施后,伊朗誓言要进行报复。伊朗武装部队将决定其对等回应的时间、性质和规模。 Amir Saeed Irvani: 作为伊朗驻联合国大使,我在联合国安理会紧急会议上明确表示,伊朗政权不应拥有核武器。 Edmund Blair: 尽管伊朗遭受了以色列和美国的打击,但仍然有很多选项。伊朗拥有更多的弹道导弹和无人机,即使防御再好,也总会有一些能够突破。伊朗还可以利用水雷和漫长的海岸线来扰乱地区航运,并有多种目标可供选择,包括霍尔木兹海峡和美国在该地区的军事基地。然而,关闭霍尔木兹海峡会影响伊朗自身的石油出口,攻击美国基地则可能招致毁灭性报复。伊朗可能会采取一种经过校准的回应,但始终存在美国士兵伤亡的风险。根据以往经验,伊朗不会做出轻率的反应,而是会深思熟虑后采取行动。

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Following US airstrikes on Iranian nuclear facilities, Iran is considering its options for retaliation. The potential responses range from missile strikes and drone attacks to disrupting oil shipping through the Strait of Hormuz. The article explores the potential consequences and calculations involved in Iran's response strategy.
  • US attacks on Iranian nuclear facilities
  • Iran's potential retaliation options (missiles, drones, Strait of Hormuz disruption)
  • Calculation of risks and benefits for Iran

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Today, Iran vows to retaliate after the US bombs its nuclear facilities. Trump hints at regime change in Iran, while his defense secretary says the opposite. How much damage did the 30,000-pound American bunker-buster bombs really do? And how Iranian retaliation could affect the supply of oil. ♪

It's Monday, June 23rd. This is Reuters World News, bringing you everything you need to know from the front lines in 10 minutes every weekday. I'm Kim Van Nel in Whanganui, New Zealand.

Israel and Iran continue to trade air and missile strikes as the world braces for Tehran's response. Iran is vowing to defend itself after the US attacked its nuclear facilities at the weekend. The timing, nature and scale of Iran's proportionate response will be decided by its armed forces.

Iran's ambassador to the United Nations, Amir Saeed Irvani, speaking at an emergency UN Security Council meeting where America's representative, Dorothy Kamil Shia, issued her own warning. The Iranian regime cannot have a nuclear weapon. Let us be clear.

Iran should not escalate. The US dropped cruise missiles and 30,000-pound bunker-buster bombs on Iran's nuclear sites, targeting the main Fordow plant, Natanz and Isfahan. Joining Israel in its strikes against Tehran, it marks the biggest Western military action against the Islamic Republic since its 1979 revolution.

We'll get to just how much damage those bombs actually did in a bit. But for now, the question is, how will Tehran respond? Edmund Blair is our Middle East editor. So Edmund, what options is Iran weighing now?

Despite the fact that Iran has taken something of a pummeling from Israel and now the United States, it still has options. It has fired a lot of ballistic missiles at Israel, but it still has more. It has drones, and as we've seen with ballistic missiles, drones...

If you fire enough of them, some at least will go through. That's certainly Israel's experience, however good your defences are. It also has mines. It has a very long coastline. It could disrupt shipping around the region. And this brings us on to the targets. It has plenty of targets it could go for.

There is the Strait of Hormuz, through which a large chunk of the world's oil passes every day. It could disrupt those shipping lanes. It could target US military bases in the region. There are plenty around, particularly in Kuwait, in Qatar and in Bahrain. So what's the calculation here for Iran?

If it closes the Strait of Hormuz, it will not only affect oil shipping from other states, it will affect its own oil exports, even though the United States has been trying to stop Iran's exports. If it fires missiles or fires at US bases,

it could expect a devastating response from the United States. It could try a calibrated response. We've been here before in the past where there's a sort of understanding that it will fire at US bases and everyone will be protected and no one gets hurt. But there is always the risk that a US soldier dies. And if someone dies, there is a problem. But what we do know about Iran and its past experience is it doesn't do knee-jerk reactions.

President Donald Trump declared victory after the attacks and is planning to meet with his national security team later today. But speaking at the Pentagon... We will take a few questions, Phil. U.S. Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth said the U.S. operation in Iran is not open-ended. This mission was not and has not been about regime change.

Just a few hours after that, however, Trump posted on Truth Social, quote, it's not politically correct to use the term regime change, but if the current Iranian regime is unable to make Iran great again, why wouldn't there be a regime change? Colleen Jenkins is our White House editor. So, Colleen, what is the U.S. likely to do now?

So that is not entirely clear. And as we know, Trump ran on a promise not to get the U.S. militarily involved in a major foreign war. He has also publicly stressed that he wants peace and a diplomatic solution. But he's made very clear that there were other targets the U.S. could go after and would go after if Iran doesn't dismantle its nuclear programs.

What impact might this have on President Trump domestically? So Trump has definitely faced blowback within the MAGA movement that helped elect him and that his party will need to maintain control of Congress in next year's midterms. There is an anti-interventionist part of the Republican Party that does not want to see the U.S. get involved in a new Middle East war. And there were a handful of Republican lawmakers who have also been critical of the strikes and that Trump acted without approval from Congress.

But Republicans have been largely supportive of the operation, at least in its limited scope so far. So it's not clear that there'll be any sort of long-term effects on Trump.

President Trump called the attacks a spectacular military success that caused monumental damage. But an Iranian source told Reuters that the near-weapon-grade uranium in the Fordow facility was moved to a safe location before the attack. Reuters could not immediately corroborate the claim. Jonathan Landay is our national security correspondent. Jonathan, how badly were Iran's nuclear sites actually damaged?

Commercial satellite imagery of the main site that was hit, Fordow, indicates, according to experts, that the U.S. attack severely damaged or possibly even destroyed the Berry site

and the uranium-enriching centrifuges that it housed. But there's no confirmation of that because you can't tell from overhead imagery what happened 200 feet under the ground. What about the other U.S. attacks on Natanz and Isfahan? Analysts with whom I've spoken said they believe that if a bunker buster, the so-called massive ordnance penetrator,

was used against the buried uranium enrichment halls at Natanz. Those were probably destroyed because they are not as deep as the hall in Fordow.

Analysts looking at commercial satellite imagery and the IAEA also say the U.S. hit several targets in and around the Isfahan Nuclear Research Center, including the entrances to a deeply buried tunnel complex. But again, the damage there is unknown because Tomahawk cruise missiles, which were the weapons that were used, do

do not have the ability to penetrate very deeply. What does all of this tell us about Iran's nuclear capabilities now? Well, the experts with whom I've spoken say at the very least the bombing campaign has set back any effort by the Iranians to reconstitute a nuclear weapons program that the US and the IAEA said they stopped in 2003. However,

As a lot of them like to say, you can't bomb knowledge out of the heads of Iranian scientists and technologists, thousands of whom have been involved in their nuclear program.

As we mentioned earlier, there's concern too about potential disruption to the Strait of Hormuz. That's the narrow waterway between Iran and Oman, through which around a fifth of the world's oil is moved. Media reports say Iran's parliament has approved a move to close it. And that's already pushing up the price of oil. Carmel Crimmins has more.

Oil prices are at their highest level since January, with Brent crude up over $78 a barrel and West Texas Intermediate up over $75. They've both jumped over 10% since this conflict started on June 13th, with a surprise Israeli attack on Iran.

Tehran has in the past threatened to close the Strait of Hormuz, but it's never followed through. You see, the strait is also indispensable for Iran's own exports, so closing it would hurt Tehran economically. Goldman Sachs said in a report that Brent could peak at $110 a barrel if oil flows through the critical waterway were halved for a month.

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