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US Treasury hack, Trump and Musk on visas and Syria's Ukraine overtures

2024/12/31
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Kevin Krolicki: 我报道了美国财政部指控中国支持的黑客窃取文件一事。中国否认了这些指控,称其缺乏证据,并反对散布针对中国的虚假信息。目前尚不清楚这些指控对中美关系会产生怎样的影响,尤其是在即将上任的特朗普政府时期。这起事件是近期一系列针对美国机构的网络攻击事件中的最新一起,这些事件凸显了网络安全日益严重的问题。 Tara Oakes: 中国支持的黑客攻击事件不仅仅发生在财政部,还包括对美国电信网络和司法部的攻击,这表明中国持续不断地试图获取敏感信息。这些攻击事件对美国国家安全构成了重大威胁,并加剧了中美之间的紧张关系。此外,特朗普总统败诉,被判对性侵犯和诽谤负责,这在政治上也引发了广泛关注。 Nandita Bose: 围绕H-1B签证的争论凸显了特朗普及其支持者之间的分歧。科技行业依赖H-1B签证来雇佣外国技术工人,但特朗普的一些支持者认为,这会损害美国工人的利益。特朗普对H-1B签证的支持立场与其在移民问题上的传统立场相矛盾,这反映出其在平衡不同政治派别方面的挑战。马斯克也参与了这场辩论,他支持H-1B签证项目。 Don Durfee: 叙利亚新政府与乌克兰发展战略伙伴关系,这反映出俄罗斯影响力下降以及其他国家,包括美国,都在寻求与叙利亚建立联系。美国对叙利亚新领导人的反应是谨慎乐观,并以塔利班为例说明了谨慎的必要性。叙利亚与乌克兰之间的合作关系,以及其他国家与叙利亚发展关系的举动,将对该地区的地缘政治格局产生重大影响。

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What did the U.S. Treasury reveal about Chinese state-sponsored hackers?

Chinese state-sponsored hackers breached the U.S. Treasury Department's security systems and stole documents, which the Treasury has classified as a 'major incident.' The hackers aimed to access sensitive or classified material rather than disrupt the system.

How did China respond to the allegations of hacking the U.S. Treasury?

China denied the allegations, calling them groundless and lacking evidence. It stated its opposition to cyber intrusions and accused the U.S. of spreading false information for political purposes.

Why is the H-1B visa program a contentious issue among Trump's supporters?

The H-1B visa program, which allows skilled foreign tech workers into the U.S., divides Trump's base. While Silicon Valley CEOs argue it’s essential for filling tech roles, immigration hardliners claim it undercuts wages and job opportunities for Americans.

What is Syria's new foreign minister seeking in relations with Ukraine?

Syria's new foreign minister expressed hope for strategic partnerships with Ukraine, as Russia's influence wanes. Ukraine is also seeking to build ties with Syria's new Islamist rulers, with the U.S. closely monitoring developments.

What is the significance of the Treasury Department being targeted by hackers?

The Treasury Department is responsible for implementing sanctions, including those against China and China-related entities. The breach suggests the hackers aimed to gather intelligence on U.S. sanctions and other sensitive financial matters.

What is the U.S. stance on Syria's new rulers?

U.S. officials are cautiously optimistic about Syria's new rulers but remain wary, drawing parallels to the Taliban's initial moderate rhetoric in Afghanistan. They are monitoring whether the new leadership will maintain a moderate stance or revert to fundamentalist policies.

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Today, the US Treasury says Chinese hackers stole documents in a major incident. The visa feud rocking Trump's base. Ukraine and the US try to find anti-Russian common ground with Syria's new rulers. And the countdown before the countdown. Times Square prepares for New Year's Eve.

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Chinese state-sponsored hackers breached the Treasury Department's security guardrails this month and stole documents in what it's calling a major incident. That's according to a letter to lawmakers that Treasury officials provided to Reuters. Kevin Krolicki is our Greater China Bureau chief.

So Kevin, what's been China's response to this so far? It says the allegations are groundless and they lack evidence. It says it opposes cyber intrusions, hacks of this kind. And as it said today, it's even more opposed to spreading what it calls false information against China for political purposes. And the Biden presidency is ending. What will these allegations mean for relations with a new Trump presidency? I think the

Last year, U.S. officials would characterize as a steadier period with cooperation in some areas, including U.S. officials say in efforts to try to engage China on stopping the flow of fentanyl precursors. It's hard to know how the hacking allegations fit into that bigger picture. The Treasury incident that was disclosed to U.S. lawmakers on

on Monday is just the latest in a run of these. We had the hack of U.S. telecommunications networks, reports that Chinese state-backed hackers had targeted senior U.S. officials and Trump and Vance's phone lines as well. And that as part of that, they had got into the system that is used by the Justice Department for communications.

wiretaps. So they would have got intel on going U.S. criminal investigations, including maybe counter-espionage investigations. We don't really know in the Treasury Department case, I think, yet what documents they were able to acquire, but the U.S. has defined this as what they call an advanced persistent threat. Clearly, the intent was to hang around in the network, try to grab a sensitive or classified material rather than trying to crash the system. It

It's also significant that they targeted Treasury, which of course is in charge of implementing sanctions, including sanctions on China and China-related entities. China, in the earlier case, also had a vehement denial, very much like the one issued today. Supporters of South Korea's impeached and suspended president, Yoon Suk-yool, in Seoul, hours after a court approved his arrest warrant.

It's the first time a sitting South Korean president has faced arrest. Yoon is accused of leading an insurrection after his failed attempt to impose martial law earlier this month. Actors Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt have reached a divorce settlement, her lawyer says, bringing an end to one of Hollywood's most contentious and closely followed celebrity splits. Jolie originally filed for divorce eight years ago. No details of the settlement were immediately revealed.

Pitt's representatives did not immediately respond to a request for comment. Donald Trump has lost his appeal against a $5 million verdict that E. Jean Carroll won against the president-elect, when he was found liable for sexually abusing and later defaming the former magazine columnist. A federal appeals court rejected Trump's argument that the trial judge should not have let jurors hear evidence about the Republicans' alleged past sexual misconduct.

Chinese President Xi Jinping says the country is set to hit its official growth target for this year. China's gross domestic product is expected to have expanded by around 5% in 2024. That's according to New Year's Eve remarks by Xi. And he signaled that support for the economy will continue into next year. It caps a year of uncertainty for the world's second largest economy and for its millions of university graduates.

That's a topic we dug into in my podcast, Econ World. You can find a link to that episode with the title Rotten Tail Kids in the description to today's show. And I'll be back with a new episode of Econ World next week, all about the world's favorite shiny metal, gold. Over the holidays, a fight over immigrant visas broke out among supporters of Donald Trump.

And Elon Musk has waded in too, defending the use of the H-1B visa program, which has brought skilled foreign workers into the U.S.

White House correspondent Nandita Bose is in West Palm Beach covering the president-elect. So Nandita, first, who is this visa program for? So H-1B visas are for foreign tech workers. It's a skilled worker visa that has been in the eye of the storm since the last time Trump was elected. And the

The tech industry relies very heavily on this visa to hire foreign workers to run their companies. And this is what a lot of company CEOs will talk about, is that there isn't a lot of homegrown talent to fill those roles. And that's kind of the central tension in this debate, right? It's pitting Trump's traditional base against his allies in Silicon Valley.

So this is clearly an issue that is dividing his base. And Trump gave an interview to the New York Post saying that he's in favor of these visas.

And that is a bit shocking because of, you know, his position in the past on this. Musk was very clear that any debate on immigration shouldn't touch the H-1B category because of how much the tech industry relies on it. Then there is Trump's base, which includes a lot of immigration hardliners like Laura Loomer, of course, Steve Bannon. Their fundamental argument is bringing in foreign workers undercuts wages for Americans.

and, you know, takes away opportunities for them. And Trump ran on that platform and he needs to deliver on that. Of course, that is now pitting them against an industry that has helped Trump win this time. And these CEOs have a seat at the table this time. And they're like, we're not going to let the Bannons of the world get their way

when it comes to skilled workers and engineers. They can have their way when it comes to illegal immigration and people coming in through the southern border. But outside of that, we need to be careful about, you know, how we're doing this. Syria's new foreign minister told his Ukrainian counterpart on Monday that his country hopes for strategic partnerships with Ukraine.

Amid waning Russian influence, Kiev is moving to build ties with the new Islamist rulers in Damascus, as are many other countries, including the US. Don Durfee is our US foreign policy editor.

John, what's been the reaction to the new Syrian rulers so far? US officials say so far that they're encouraged, but cautious, right? They have the example of the Taliban, which had come in with a sort of a more moderate rhetoric before it overtook Afghanistan, only to sort of go back to its very fundamentalist roots. So if you look at Russian influence, for example, there is no love lost.

between the new leaders and the Russians, right? The Russians, of course, supported Assad, killed a lot of rebels as well as civilians during this long civil war. But al-Sharah came out to say recently that Russia and Syria have some mutual strategic interests. So they're not closing the door to the Russians, but not making any promises just yet. We had the Ukrainian foreign minister in the country recently trying to sort of build up closer relations

and promising food aid to Syria. So there are a lot of different powers here sort of jostling for influence. Three, two, one, food aid! Not yet, folks, but good to know you're ready. This was Monday's test of the New Year's Eve crystal ball drop above Times Square. And just to be sure, they've also tested the confetti throw. Are we ready down there? Here we go! Five, four, three, two, one, happy!

It means everything is now in place for when 3,000 pounds of confetti are dropped by hand from nearby buildings at midnight. Experience the difference with Elsec Workspace, your personal ecosystem for unique insights, news and analytics with AI augmented recommendations to gain the competitive edge and collaborate effortlessly with your community. Elsec Workspace, supercharge your impact.

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