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Frontline special - financier and Putin critic Sir Bill Browder

2025/6/15
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Bill Browder: 我认为普京是一个独裁者,他维持权力的唯一方式就是树立外国敌人,并通过战争转移国内矛盾。他对乌克兰的征服只是开始,他还觊觎波罗的海国家和波兰,并威胁支持乌克兰的英国。我们不应抱有幻想,认为普京会停止侵略并安分守己。俄罗斯人民在极权统治下敢怒不敢言,但如果有一天他们觉得没有什么可失去的,并站出来反抗,那么即使普京想要镇压,他的手下也可能倒戈。普京并不想与西方开战,但他拥有一项我们不具备的优势:他不关心士兵的伤亡。他可以容忍巨大的损失,因为他是一个独裁者,不需要重新选举,也不受民主制度的约束。普京需要通过战争来维持权力,这是一个非常危险的组合。特朗普站在普京一边,这是显而易见的事实。即使没有美国的支持,英国和欧洲的经济和军事实力也足以对抗俄罗斯。 Philip Ingram: 我认为普京无意停止在乌克兰的战争,并且可能在未来几周、几个月或几年内试探北约的第五条款。根据乌克兰国防部的消息,以及英国国防情报部门的评估,俄罗斯在乌克兰战争中的伤亡人数已达到一百万。俄罗斯前线医疗条件差,导致大量重伤士兵死亡,因此这一百万伤亡中,死亡人数多于受伤人数。这一百万伤亡的里程碑对俄罗斯人民、普京和特朗普有多大意义?普京是否通过金钱收买来换取民众的沉默,因为大部分伤亡都来自俄罗斯的贫困地区,而政府会向阵亡士兵的家属提供高额补偿?这种做法虽然暂时可以平息不满,但从长远来看,会给普京带来经济问题。乌克兰最近对俄罗斯战略轰炸机、克里米亚大桥、国防工业以及在莫斯科暗杀将军等行动表明,战争正在向俄罗斯本土蔓延。这些事件在俄罗斯电报频道上被广泛讨论,对俄罗斯民众和普京本人产生了什么影响?特朗普似乎总是站在普京一边,指责泽连斯基是罪魁祸首。特朗普这样做的动机是什么?

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This chapter explores the impact of Russia's immense military losses in Ukraine, estimated at one million soldiers killed or wounded. It examines why the Russian population hasn't revolted despite these losses, focusing on Putin's totalitarian regime and the economic incentives offered to soldiers from impoverished regions. The chapter also discusses the strategic implications of these losses for Putin's position and the potential for future uprisings.
  • One million Russian soldiers killed or wounded in Ukraine.
  • Putin's totalitarian regime silences dissent.
  • Recruitment focuses on impoverished regions.
  • Economic incentives offered to soldiers.
  • Potential for future uprisings.

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In this extended Frontline conversation, Sir Bill Browder, formerly Russia's biggest foreign investor but now a Kremlin critic, says Russia reportedly reaching the milestone of a million soldiers killed in the war in Ukraine won't stop Vladimir Putin. He explains how the Russian leader is still controlling public opinion about the war despite repeated setbacks, particularly through recruiting for the military from Russia's poorest regions.

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