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Frontline special - Russia specialist Professor Sam Greene

2025/2/22
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Sam Greene: 我认为美俄会谈是对双方认真程度的考验,但关键在于谁的认真程度受到考验。如果我们相信特朗普政府的说法,那么利雅得的对话目的是为未来的谈判铺路,让所有相关方(包括乌克兰和欧洲)最终参与其中。然而,此后特朗普政府前后不一的言论,以及在慕尼黑安全会议前后发生的事件,让人们开始质疑美国在乌克兰问题上的认真程度,而非俄罗斯。特朗普总统关于乌克兰的言论充斥着事实错误,这不仅具有煽动性,而且破坏了美国国务院等外交机构的努力,损害了美国的国际信誉。 普京试图利用谈判来实现其在战场上无法实现的目标。美国政府在谈判中的立场摇摆不定,一会儿表示愿意做出让步,一会儿又威胁要采取强硬措施,这使得乌克兰和欧洲感到不安。这种短期交易的方式与欧洲和乌克兰追求长期安全稳定的目标相冲突。 共和党长期以来一直希望将外交重点从欧洲转向印太地区,这可能会导致对欧洲安全的关注减少。特朗普政府可能与俄罗斯更有共同点,这使得欧洲难以形成统一的防御战略。有效的威慑并非易事,需要欧洲和北约采取更强硬的立场,包括可能需要地面部队,以阻止俄罗斯进一步侵略。欧洲长期以来依赖美国的国防开支,现在需要承担更多责任,但美国可能成为问题的一部分,这令欧洲措手不及。美国政府更关注短期交易而非长期机构合作,这可能会破坏北约。 “地面部队”是一个比喻,它包含空中支援和后勤保障等多种形式的支持。要求乌克兰做出牺牲,同时又不提供足够的保护,是不道德的,也是导致未来战争的导火索。 James Hansen: (提问和引导讨论,没有表达核心论点)

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This chapter analyzes the US-Russia talks, questioning their seriousness and exploring whether they represent a potential betrayal of Ukraine. The discussion centers on the absence of Ukrainian and European representation and the contradictory statements made by US officials.
  • US-Russia talks in Riyadh focused on establishing a negotiation process.
  • Contradictory statements from US officials sowed doubt about their commitment.
  • Trump's comments downplaying Ukraine's role and Zelensky's approval rating are factually inaccurate.

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In this extended Frontline conversation, King's College London professor Samuel Greene argues that US-Russia talks are testing both sides' seriousness, while an inconsistent American approach risks undermining trust and European security.

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