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Trump gets NATO to cough up

2025/6/25
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John Luff: 在这次北约峰会上,各方都努力迎合特朗普,以确保美国继续留在北约。我赞扬秘书长马克·吕特采取了正确的策略,让欧洲盟国认识到局势的严重性。最终,除西班牙和比利时外,所有成员国都同意将国防开支提高到GDP的5%,这对特朗普来说是一个巨大的胜利。要知道,此前没有哪位美国总统能够说服欧洲国家增加国防开支。当然,许多欧洲国家,包括英国,在公共债务方面面临着巨大的压力,要履行这些开支承诺将是一个严峻的挑战。特朗普主要通过与外国领导人的个人关系来看待国际关系,而马克·吕特似乎很懂得如何与特朗普打交道,这可能大大缓和了他对北约的态度。特朗普可能意识到,他已经成功说服欧洲人增加国防开支,并且长期以来,欧洲国家在北约中一直有搭便车的行为,虽然美国也从中受益,但这种不平衡已经到了难以为继的地步。不过,我更担心的是,当真正面临挑战时,美国对北约的承诺到底有多大。 John Luff: 特朗普分享吕特的私人信息可能会让其他领导人担心他们对特朗普说的话是否会被公开。特朗普以非常规的方式行事,喜欢戏剧性的时刻,不受传统约束,他的言行不受约束,常常使用粗俗的语言。普京和习近平可能会认为特朗普在玩一场聪明的游戏,他保持开放的选择。特朗普成功说服欧洲人增加国防开支,这是他的前任们未能做到的。美国在试图让欧洲人为自己的国防做更多贡献时,发现自己有些无能为力。特朗普是一位愿意冒险的美国总统,尽管他上任时承诺要让美国摆脱遥远的战争,但他毫不犹豫地站在以色列一边,认为美国和以色列在伊朗获得核武器的威胁问题上存在共同利益。特朗普是一位与众不同的总统,他愿意做他的前任们回避的事情,俄罗斯人很清楚特朗普是不可预测的。特朗普的关税政策和即兴发挥的方式表明,他是一位不可预测的领导人,他的外交政策出乎许多人的意料。

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The NATO summit in The Hague focused on Donald Trump's demands for increased defense spending. The format was tailored to keep Trump engaged, and the main agenda item was his call for NATO members to spend 5% of their GDP on defense. This was a significant win for Trump, although it poses challenges for many European countries already facing high public debt.
  • NATO summit focused on Trump's 5% defense spending demand
  • Format tailored to keep Trump engaged
  • Agreement reached (except Spain and possibly Belgium) on 5% defense spending
  • Significant challenge for European countries with high public debt

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As NATO leaders gather in The Hague - edging towards an historic 5% defence spending target - their focus is on Donald Trump's influence, and a continuing land war in Europe. John Lough - a former NATO official and now Head of Foreign Policy at the New Eurasian Strategies Centre unpacks how this summit has unfolded.

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