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Who will blink first: Trump or Xi?

2025/4/10
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David Lubin: 我认为,特朗普政府此前关于关税的警告是不可信的。我认为是债券市场迫使特朗普让步。美国债券市场收益率的上升,以及美元的贬值,表明美国资本市场存在严重的失调。这种失调,我认为是促使特朗普周围的人说服他,他已经走得太远,需要调整政策的原因。 中国长期以来都倾向于保持贸易顺差,这是一种经济保护的形式。我认为,中国愿意达成某种谈判协议。但是,目前华盛顿和北京之间的信任已经崩溃,要达到这一步将非常困难。 我认为,特朗普更可能先让步,因为美国面临滞胀的风险,而中国则面临通缩的风险。美国面临滞胀的风险,这将使美联储陷入困境,并对特朗普造成政治压力。中国经济多年来一直面临通缩的风险。特朗普需要面对中期选举,这可能会迫使他调整政策。 如果贸易战持续,全球贸易增长将大幅减弱。当前的贸易环境非常严峻,贸易受压将导致全球经济增长受压。即使是10%的关税,也会对全球经济产生负面影响,并可能导致美国经济走向自给自足。特朗普政府可能希望美国经济更加自给自足。特朗普政府对美国实力的看法是零和博弈式的。

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Following weeks of escalating tariffs and market uncertainty, President Trump's surprising reversal on tariffs has sparked intense debate. While his administration claims it was a strategic move to expose China's economic tactics, experts like David Lubin raise doubts. Lubin highlights the bond market's influence on Trump's decision and discusses the underlying mercantilist tendencies driving both US and Chinese trade policies.
  • Trump reversed most tariffs, except for a 125% tariff on Chinese goods
  • China retaliated with 84% tariffs on US imports
  • The bond market's reaction played a significant role in Trump's decision
  • Both the US and China exhibit mercantilist tendencies in their trade policies

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Donald Trump’s team claim his tariff reversal was the “strategy all along” to isolate China. While the rest of the world now faces the baseline US tariff of 10%, goods from Beijing will now be subject to 125% import taxes. In return, China has retaliated and says it will not back down. David Lubin, economist and senior research fellow at the Chatham House think tank, explains why Trump is more likely to blink first, and what the trade war means for the rest of the world.

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