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Ep.66E Robert Drost: How we reimagine blockchain security in Eigenlayer

2025/1/24
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@Robert Drost : 我是Eigen Foundation的CEO,拥有Web2和加密货币领域的丰富经验。EigenLayer旨在通过其创新的restaking机制,使区块链安全可重用,如同共享单车系统一样,但更可靠。我们已经吸引了数千名运营商,成为区块链世界的安全共享中心。我相信良性竞争能够推动创新,我们正在积极应对中心化风险,并致力于创建一个对所有人开放和可持续的区块链生态系统。我们的目标是降低新项目的成本,并最终构建一个更人性化、更去中心化的互联网。 我们相信EigenLayer的restaking机制能够解决当前区块链安全面临的挑战。通过将抵押资产通用化,EigenLayer允许同一抵押资产同时用于多个协议,从而提高资产利用率并降低安全成本。这对于新兴协议来说尤其重要,因为它们可以利用EigenLayer的共享安全池来获得与大型协议相当的安全级别,而无需付出高昂的成本。 EigenLayer还提供两种安全模型:共享安全和专用安全。共享安全模型类似于Ethereum L1的共享安全机制,所有协议共享同一安全池;专用安全模型则允许协议预留一部分安全保障,仅对其自身生效。这两种模型可以根据不同协议的需求进行选择,以平衡成本和风险。 我们正在积极应对中心化风险,例如通过简化运营商的加入流程,并激励更多小型运营商参与,来促进网络去中心化。我们也正在开发更先进的加密经济学协议,以进一步增强网络安全性。 EigenLayer的长期目标是成为人类协调的超级高速公路,通过提供弹性的共享安全,为各种应用提供安全保障,甚至包括现实世界中的交易和承诺。 @Vivienne : 作为主持人,我对EigenLayer的restaking机制和AVS(主动验证服务)非常感兴趣,并就其技术细节和应用场景向Robert Drost提出了许多问题。 我关注EigenLayer如何解决区块链安全共享的问题,以及如何降低新项目的成本。同时,我也关注EigenLayer如何应对中心化风险,以及如何平衡去中心化和用户体验。 通过与Robert Drost的对话,我对EigenLayer的未来发展充满信心,相信EigenLayer能够推动区块链技术的发展,并为构建更人性化的互联网做出贡献。 @Zhiyang : 作为主持人,我关注EigenLayer的市场竞争以及其在未来发展中的机遇和挑战。 我与Robert Drost讨论了EigenLayer如何看待竞争,以及如何利用竞争来推动自身发展。我们还探讨了EigenLayer在未来三到五年内的重要发展里程碑,以及EigenLayer如何帮助协议降低成本,并最终实现可持续发展。 通过与Robert Drost的对话,我更加深入地了解了EigenLayer的技术优势和商业模式,并对EigenLayer的未来发展充满期待。

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In this podcast, we sit down with Robert Drost, the mastermind behind Eigen Foundation, to explore how they're making blockchain security reusable. As a "tech geek" with two Ph.D.s, Robert amusingly shares that it took him 18 months to truly grasp how cryptocurrencies work - describing it as an endless Zen journey where each layer of understanding reveals deeper complexities beneath.

From his Web2 adventures in Silicon Valley to diving into crypto in 2017, first joining Consensys and later taking the helm as CEO of Eigen Foundation, Robert's journey has been fascinating. Their groundbreaking "restaking" mechanism makes blockchain security shareable - think of it as a bike-sharing system for security, but far more reliable! The project has now attracted thousands of operators, effectively becoming the "security sharing hub" of the blockchain world.

When discussing industry competition, Robert maintains a refreshing perspective: "A unicorn without competition might end up as a cyclops." He firmly believes that healthy competition drives innovation. As Eigenlayer faces challenges like centralization risks, they've developed a comprehensive strategy to address them. Robert's ultimate vision is straightforward: creating a blockchain ecosystem that's accessible and sustainable for everyone. After all, who says innovation has to come with a hefty price tag?

01:45 - Robert's Background & Career Path
05:30 - Eigenlayer Overview & ETH Integration
08:15 - Deep Dive into Restaking
15:20 - Active Validator Services (AVS) Explained
22:40 - Shared vs Applicable Security Models
28:15 - Security Isolation & Risk Management
35:30 - Industry Competition & Innovation
42:45 - Project Vision & Roadmap
48:20 - Addressing Centralization Risks
54:10 - Cost Reduction Strategies for New Projects
58:30 - Industry Future Discussion

Guest:

Robert Drost (Twitter: @rjdrost)

Eigenlayer (Twitter: @eigenlayer)

Eigen Foundation (Twitter: @eigenfoundation)

Host:

Vivienne (Twitter: @Vivienne_smile)

Zhiyang (Twitter @zhiyangxyz)

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