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She Wants AI To Help You Thrive, Not Just Keep You Company — Y-Lan Boureau

2025/5/28
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Y-Lan Boureau: 我一直认为人工智能应该帮助人们过上更好的生活。在Facebook的研究经历让我意识到,简单地提供事实并不能解决问题,人们更倾向于相信自己所属的社群。因此,我们需要关注人们的心理需求,帮助他们建立可以信任的社群,理解世界,并感到自己对生活有掌控感。我希望利用人工智能来传递我们已经知道的技巧,并帮助人们以更有趣、更有层次、更个性化的方式学习和应用这些技巧,从而帮助他们找到幸福和充实感。重要的是,我们要帮助技术降低实现更困难目标的摩擦,而不是仅仅满足短期欲望。我希望构建机器人来教人们如何呼吸、冥想和锻炼,并让聊天机器人变得更好,从而实现这个目标。我希望能够引导人们朝着这个方向前进,而不是沉溺于虚假的幻想。 Y-Lan Boureau: 我发现人们在网上争吵的原因往往不是因为缺乏事实,而是因为他们寻求归属感和社区认同。因此,简单地提供“事实”并不能解决问题,反而可能适得其反。人们更关心的是自己是否属于某个群体,以及是否在向该群体表达忠诚。所以,我认为这不是一个技术问题,而是一个人际关系问题。我们需要关注人们的心理需求,帮助他们建立可以信任的社区,能够理解世界,并且对世界有掌控感。我希望通过技术来降低人们实现长期目标的难度,而不是仅仅满足他们的短期欲望。我始终对人们如何才能过上充实的生活感兴趣,而不仅仅是在网上。也许我们应该给他们提供一些在线的东西,让他们更多地参与线下活动。 Y-Lan Boureau: 我认为,即使意图是正确的,但如果不能带来好的结果,也许就不应该做。在Facebook的研究让我明白,简单地提供事实并不能改变人们的想法,反而会让他们更加坚定自己的立场。因此,我们需要找到更有效的方法来帮助人们。我一直想了解是什么让人感到快乐或生活充实,并利用人工智能来实现这个目标。我希望能够帮助技术降低实现更困难目标的摩擦,而不是仅仅满足他们的短期欲望。我始终对人们如何才能过上充实的生活感兴趣,而不仅仅是在网上。也许我们应该给他们提供一些在线的东西,让他们更多地参与线下活动。

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Y-Lan Boureau, CEO of ThrivePal, discusses her research on AI and its role in improving people's lives. She questions the focus on companionship and therapy, arguing that AI should prioritize helping people thrive. Her early research on using AI to inject facts into online discussions revealed that this approach is ineffective, highlighting the importance of interpersonal relationships and trust.
  • AI's focus on companionship and therapy is misguided
  • Injecting facts into online discussions is ineffective
  • Trust and relationships are crucial for positive online interactions
  • The problem is psychological, not technical

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Y-Lan Boureau is the founder & CEO of ThrivePal, an OpenAI-funded AI startup, and a former Meta AI researcher. Boureau joins Big Technology Podcast to discuss why the next frontier for AI should be science‑backed coaching that nudges us toward healthier habits and deeper real‑world relationships. Tune in to hear how large‑language models can push users to lift weights, regulate emotions, and support their friends’ growth.



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