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right? What up? What's up? Welcome back to away one here. And pretty brazen week, pretty light week.

Honestly, it's thanksgiving. We people are at home with their family .

and sort of how they type stuff. We can see little.

a little bit of things right down. People, people stop releasing major news that could, I don't know, like news that could like change the fate of you.

Go fire and I maybe he's expo interview to.

Ho, oh, oh, guys, this is this a okay.

let me aged about seventy five years in the last forty.

I just wanted, say, this week has been thank you guys for making that dramatic so much work for us. He planned that out. Everything I was, I just I feel like this week has been the most insane week in technology for like five years at least. Feel Chloe .

in technology news and a lot of things happening at once, all which are very dramatic, yes, and a lot of things that we never thought ever happen. interesting. Well, where do we start? There is a couple things that I literally would have put money on, never happening. Yeah, we could start with maybe, maybe the nothing sunbird rs thing is right.

That's a whole experience in cell. Okay, let's start with that. okay. So we could .

go rewind a little bit to literally last week, P I. Ode, when we are talking about the video that we made about nothing, trying this weird thing being this quirky, weird company, uh, making an APP that would bring my message to their newest phone. nothing.

And the chance is that they would have with that. And obviously, the reasons why they were going to try this crazy thing, a ultimately where they were doing was branding or skinning an existing APP called sunbird, right, which was in beta and wasn't really publicly available. So they're bringing IT to the public um but ultimately having a number of security concerns, as i've mentioned in the video.

Yeah probably don't even want to type your apple credentials into a third party service ever yeah probably right. But you know I was an option. So just was something that people should be aware of being available to them, no more than, I don't know, five days after that video, probably three days even.

Yeah, he was very quick, very quickly. IT gets all the attention in the world, and everyone's security concerns are rightfully rought to the forefront immediately, like almost over the top of all of the top of wow, I am message Randy. Oh, that's interesting.

Like nobody was talking about that anymore. immediately. This is kind of a hack. You should probably never use IT by why I didn't log in with my own credential. They logged in with the studio account so that one maybe may not the best situation but either way immediately get talked a lot about the security right um how many days later was at that sunbird? There are nothing chats was removed from the play store yeah over the security concern yeah .

pretty much immediate security researchers started ripping at apart, most notably from one of their competitors called text stop on a text stop com, and which is owned by automatic, which also ows word press and tumbler. They had a unch of security researchers just ripped IT apart and they found a lot of really big problems that sunbird was very shady about was hiding a lot of stuff about um things like they were using HTTP instead of the HTTPS which is like difficult to do nowaday how do you even get wow they were storing all the media and text in like plain text in a fire base database um yeah so so it's IT was really bad.

I kind of picture like the nothing team and carl watching this unfold like, oh yeah, I could have totally gone. We could have seen this coming a mile away. Not A A great look.

I feel like nothing really should have done their due diligence here. And I had their own security team because especially because nothing but on IT in the video they said we made an I message on andred APP, which they didn't this yeah and they helped bring one to market yeah basically yeah uh so that happened yeah they pulled IT immediately from the players and um and then an update sunbird just today, tuesday day recording sunbird also suspended their Operations indefinitely until they can figure out a solution i'm not sure that's ever going to happen because I feel like the name is pretty tainted at this point.

Yeah so we went from nothing, launching a big collab with sunburn that would be available to everybody soon to IT being removed from the play store to some burn no .

longer existing as a company. So they still there. They're just like seeing all Operations and definitely, and I just want to point out the timeline here, right?

So like we put out doing nothing chat video on the fourth team th when they announced IT, uh, by the seven tenth, that's when they they got shut down, they think shut shut. But on the sixteenth, the evening of november, the sixteen teeth on thursday, yeah, i'm sitting. I'm i'm just typing on my law computers.

One of those d remember where you .

were moment really? I was typing at a bar. I was just like typing words and I just see somebody puts them in slack. This thing about rcs coming to the iphone the day before nothing chats was served to come out, by the way. Um wow, yeah I remember what I .

was too where so I was on we're on the plane to loss the videos for the f one race, which you'll get you later. And I just got ten my room key and headed up to my room. I ve just unpacked and I take my stuff out my bag, put IT down and open my laptop and logged into the wifi.

And as the first thing I saw like, so what we saw was the headlines or commentary about the news that the iphone will be getting R, C, S. Support after all. Next, in twenty four.

Yes, now we've been talking forever about the Green bubble is blue bubble thing. And I want to be very clear that's not going away. Yes, it's definitely not going away.

But what google has been pushing so hard and what a lot of people have been asking for is like today, when an android phone in an iphone message each other, IT is a horrible experience on purpose. Apple has been just running IT back through SMS and EMS. If I send you a picture, IT compresses IT down to know how many hundred ninety bites.

Whatever IT is, IT looks like trash. Video is compressed to look like there from the eight hundred box is horrible. It's all unencrypted like it's a disaster. So yeah, we wanted Better support a between android phones and iphone. So android phones, all new phones basically supporting R C S.

The iphone gaining R C S support twenty twenty four means that one Green bubbles will stay Green, but they will now be R C S messages instead of S M em s there. Which idea correctly from messing up some of these? But I think that means we're gonna get read received.

Yes, we're gonna get typing indicators. We're gonna get possibly reaction support and ideally higher quality media. So high resolution photos, high resolution videos, and I think sending them over the internet. Yeah so all that is why yeah in line replies threads, all that is much, much Better IT still isn't. I message is alongside I message on the iphone, right? But the last bit of IT was is still unencrypted yeah and from what I understand this is because the the R C S universal profile that apple is pledging to support IT doesn't have rcs built in first so he doesn't have encryption built in yeah ah on .

yes it's it's very weird. The universal profile that was built by the gsma has all of those things like typing indicators and resides in all of the stuff. But there is no egypt building. And my assumption for that would .

be the fact I believe there is encrypted. It's encrypted in transit. IT is not end to end crypt.

okay.

I've been trying so hard to figure out what that means. I can't is .

yeah but in the .

universal profile.

in the .

universal profile, IT is IT. I don't know what that means. All the sources I read say encrypted in transit and not end to end encrypted and sting tweet at me and I point.

okay, well, good looking to tweet for some reason on the universal profile. I have a inkling that a lot of countries, specifically the eu, is like very against encryption in general. And they're been fighting against encryption for a long time.

They're been trying to get people, uh companies like what's happened all these other manufacturer to not have encrusted in their apps because they want to be able to like peak in the back the back door orated. Yeah and so there sort of been this weird power strugling between like meta in the eu for a long period of time. Uh, the gsma obviously covers a lot of their european ian.

So like it's possible that when they were building universal profile, they didn't build IT in. And just said in your given country or for your given device, you can do whatever you want but we don't want to build into the universal profile. I'm not sure that's just a theory um but currently android phones that are using google messages use google per which is why IT took so long for like a google and group group messages that had entered in cypher because they had to update their proprietary stuff got IT yeah so apple doesn't want to use their stuff.

I don't want to use google thing. Yes so they can use a profile. Uh, i've heard that there is hopes that maybe they will be able to add on to the universal profile or maybe support encysted down the road.

IT would be nice. I don't think it's the top of everyone's priority list, but I do think it's still pretty important um considering a mess and S M, S to this day yeah the unCrystallized be nice. Yeah but yeah just one of those things we never thought would happen yeah just of an out of the blue press release, not really too much of a statement from any notable apple people. Yeah tim cook .

said anything about IT. No, no, get interviewed. A lot of people are like nothing made apple make this move.

And no, it's not that because the day thursday, the day the day announced IT was actually the um IT was the last day that apple had to make their case to the european, to the E. U. That they were not a core platform service for a message.

So the eu. They issued a bunch of gatekeepers. They said these companies are gatekeepers with these apps in these types of platforms. So they had messaging platforms, social media, they had all this. Tiktok was on their google was on there for various things.

And I message just got listed as a potential gatekeeper that over a long creative time, they were going to issue an investigation into to determine whether not they were get keepers. And apple had until thursday to make their case to the E. U.

Why they weren't gatekeepers. And so on the evening of the final day, the done of the final day, yeah, they go. We support us. Yes, yes, of course you're not.

Get keeper about to any universe profile. Yes, yeah, we think ships first R C S on the iphone or vision pro.

Vision pro cause vision pro is related for potentially march 是 yeah。 And R C S on the iphone, I would guess, is I O S I.

We the next iphone comes out.

yeah, got IT. Yeah, yeah. Where were you? where? Where were you when the news went down? That's definitely the biggest news the week. Yes, it's the big deal. No, yeah, that was that was really interesting to me.

I want to discuss the quick, do you think that they like Green bubble, blue bubble? Is gonna still be a problem? That's like a conversation that people are having around this right now, right? Like, is this still going to be this leg? You don't have an iphone. You're a blue bubble.

you think so. Oh yeah. Apple will find many ways to make that persist because they know how strong that is. And like there is still to be a lot of features that I message does not support with adding into like a few text and android phone, you still can't probably do lots of things like added into a group chat or whatever else apple I message. You can't start a face time from inside of IT use lots of things like the games inside of I message that people play all these things that they will they will continue to add on yeah you're going to continue to add specific I message only features that aren't .

support by yeah they have the whole like I message I message store thing that you can like down the sticker .

packs and apple pay people on there yeah stickers and means and whatever. I remember watching wwdc, I think IT was and just thinking the entire time, every single future that they are announcing inside of messages yeah is not supported when you're taxi and android phone told must be an iphone that like the dragging of the stickers around the chats and the starting a face time from inside of IT everything the link sharing, link previews. IT was all just if you .

text your friend with yeah I do wonder if they're gonna you do group chats with I and android phones I will just make the group chat be Green. But it'll still be R C S. So if it's R C S, then the experience isn't getting done.

Grated that much, hopefully so people wouldn't be that mad and fly. It's all a big unanswered question, but the fact that they are answered doing IT at all is like a major thank you. Um I didn't see a report that IOS eighteen is apparently going to be like one of the biggest IOS updates they've done in recent years because the iphone sixteen is not going to be that different from the fifteen. That's really funny to some more iphone. They have to make the next dios .

update feel big. And yeah, that's I am interested that i'm curious they're going to be able to add if you like checking off a box inside a would be super cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So that's that's nothing. Chat, R, C, S, I, iphone and sunbird on one week. Yeah, that's that's your quick, quick breathe through of maybe one of the biggest news stories of the past year.

Yes, just one of many we have here on the episode away. We're going to we'll take a quick break because we've got plenty more to talk about. But of course, as we do a quick break, we should do some try.

Chivey, okay. So the next segment were about .

to get into after the break .

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ai that's going to reducing. But before we get there, one year before OpenAI was launched in twenty fifteen, David just told me for a total of eight days, sam altman was the C. E. O of what popular social media company.

I like that looking, and I like that Sparkle in your eyes. And woman was A C. E. O of what popular social .

for eight days is currently popular.

Same often is the C, E, O for eight days. Have a pop. There's not that many popular.

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Welcome back. Everybody are, as you may have heard before. And okay, I just want I just want to like take this quick note to say you you're watching flash.

Listen to this probably on friday. We are currently recording this on tuesday. That's a big deal.

A lot of stuff probably happened. So I really I really am sorry for out of date with this. We are trying our best. Uh, a lot happened since friday. Yes.

so going to talk OpenAI. Yeah microsoft a we're gonna try to go blow for blow timeline up until now, the moon recording, right? I acknowledging that eat some stuff probably going to happen after we record before this video goes up.

And that's fine, at least to be up to speed on may be .

a thankful break chance. No ways one of the world the most, I guess wild, meaning, like most unexpected stories, kind of out of nowhere with no seeming explanation.

Yeah still no explanation as of recording four pm eastern time on tuesday.

So the weird one, because I can't begin with. So how did IT start?

Because there's you kind of can because I actually went back to twenty fifteen for this time. And no, okay, let's start there. What happened? A lot of you potentially have heard of open.

I probably by now you probably already know. We made a video about dolly, which they make, which was a text to image generator, that kind of like got everyone excited. But then ChatGPT came out in all this is less than two years, less than one year for chat ChatGPT came out one year ago, november twenty twenty two.

Yeah, insane. Um so chat B T came out in twenty twenty two. And that kind of blew the little off of this whole like A I revolution just everyone talking about A I every single week advance is being made.

Everything um transformers watch ChatGPT based on have been anounced twenty seventeen but open. I was the first company that kind of like took the lid off of what they could do you really show people what these models were like to play with. So since twenty seventeen um i'm just setting the stage. But I since twenty seventeen, microsoft invested a forty nine percent stake in OpenAI, which gave you the ability to um have a lot of cloud credits with microsoft assured because they need these a server farms to run their models on.

To me, IT felt like we're too big and there are too big to straight up acquire OpenAI. Possibly regulations would not let that go through, but we're going to act a lot like we would have if we did acquire open eye, meaning they are a very close partner. Yeah they work together on a new products, new announcements, new features. They give each other exclusive access to things yeah microsoft open.

I like they're like they're very tightly bond red. There's actually an org chart um on the open eye website and IT shows microsoft as like a minority investor in the old chart. Sha um so they invested in a forty nine percent stake, which was effectively just like a ten to eleven billion dollar investment, mostly in a your cloud credits, which means they didn't give them cash. And when you say that they like a kind of get to own OpenAI N S sort of, they get to do that without actually .

giving them cash. Imagine like walking into a best buy. And if they gave you enough gift cards, you would just own the best buy.

That was a horribly analogy. It's not that different. But think about that yeah, think about that. Yeah, it's not that different and really give you anything yeah. By the way, I think it's uzel, yes, yes.

microsoft? yes. okay. So you can see that microsoft has definitely taken advantage of this partnership over the last year, right? They released being chat. They released we've made so many video around like why microsoft has so much gain, a little lose versus google. They really like kept this investment pretty quiet until a ChatGPT came out.

And then they took a little off of IT now on friday last friday, the opening eyes board very abruptly fired the C E O sam Allen. Um and the saga that unfolded since then that has unfolded and is still currently as a recording unfolding, is probably the most fast paste, most in the open, happening on twitter, happening on threads live. I am glue to my phone. I can't stop refreshing my computer. Drama that we've seen in a .

very long time is IT happening on threats too.

A little bit on threats.

S, S, I ve seen so much on twitter.

Yeah, the problem with threats is they don't really have an algorithmic feed. Yeah, so you can't see i'm getting stuff that happened two days ago.

I would have to get lucky for pop up on my feet, but twitter is just just sit in a different top. yes. Yeah, pop up on my for you page. Yeah exactly.

So keep IT up with everything on threats just because everyone I was following was talking about IT. Yes, wasn't like recommend.

okay. So before again to the timeline uh, from friday, I want to give a little context about OpenAIr, the organization. So OpenAI was found IT in twenty fifteen as a nonprofit. Um you can kind of think of them like a research organization. They were basically like we want to create an artificial general intelligence that benefits all humanity and effectively what they would category an artificial general intelligence, as is a highly autonomists system that outperforms humans at most economically valuable work.

Would they started? And this came from a book i've been reading, but sort of as a proxy to the corporate AI, things are being built like open. I more or less was supposed to exist to to provide some structure to what I hopefully could turn into a knock off the rails if I was just controlled by corporation.

Yeah, that that was the big thing is that they made IT a nonprofit specifically because they didn't want their research and work to be profit driven, which always areas towards acceleration yeah right. We have to be in in front of the other people, have to be Better than the other people. So if you're non profit, you don't really have to chase that stuff.

Um and originally, when they got found that they were trying to get one billion dollars worth of investments so that they could use that money to run the company and also like higher engineers to all that stuff, a billion yeah, and just a billion billion. And they got a bunch of people to invest and oman invest a bunch of money. Um he was one of the cofounder ers.

They got elon invest a bunch of money. He was also sitting on the board, I believe. And unfortunately, they were only able to raise about one hundred and three point five million dollars.

Invest you I want a company with that yeah IT worked for a little bit, but IT doesn't really last in the long run, right? So in two and nineteen um they kind of realized like o god like we need to figure out how to make money to run this company ah, especially because once the transformer was invented in twenty seventeen and they started taking advantage of IT, obviously you have to train models that run servers. And they were making things like GPT two and they had this um IT was called the OpenAI five.

This is actually how I heard about IT back. And I think like twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, IT was a dota two bot, which is the only video game that I play, that they trained with unsupervised learning, which is just like throwing the game in a sandbox and letting the A I learned how to play IT with team coordination and they trained IT to compete against the best players of dot two in the world. And IT won a bunch of times until they figured out how to beat them.

Yeah so obviously they they had these little milestones that were really making IT work um but then in two and nineteen there, like okay, we're running out of money. We actually need to make more money. So what they did was they added a new company underneath the non profit company. So they had the nonprofit open eye uh then they had a holding company underneath the non profit and the holding company was owned by the engineers and employees and the shareholders and then that holdings company owned the four .

profit company. That's okay. Yeah I hate IT. Yeah, but okay.

there's a decent amount of businesses that are like this that are trying to be more like good for the planet. The whole idea is that the nonprofit still gets to make all the decisions, and the nonprofit is generally made up of people who are not as involved with the day day Operations of the four profit business.

Yeah, there's still a server wai weird about a non profit owning a four profit company. Yeah but you know, yeah, I get .

with yeah something .

like this.

probably .

something not for profit that was owned by the personal owned.

And yes, some like that. Yeah, so this new non profit company was also a capped the new for profit company was also a kept for profit company. So they could only make a certain amount of money prior that was used to pay engineers to run the servers.

And all the extra money got feedback to the nonprofit, which was used for research, all of the stuff that non profit did right OK go. So we get that the way as very this is that's going to be very important to this story OK. okay.

Um now that restructuring that they did to create the four profit capital profit company also came with a forty nine percent minority investment from microsoft um into the four profit ARM of the company. So because they needed specifically cash injection, secondarily they needed servers like microsoft azure yeah um so microsoft decided to be hold a forty nine percent taking the company, which was effectively a ten billion dollar uh, credit for azure. Now specifically, the board of the non profit company made sure that microsoft was not able to have any leverage over what the company was doing.

Um specifically the on profit are of the company if you go on their website and look at their structure, is says microsoft in intentionally does not hold the board seat. Microsoft does not is not able to control what the four profit company company does. All of this stuff.

they work. We don't own them, I swear we don't own them.

Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. The on profit was like we're going to continue on our mission and we need to make sure that microsoft, a four profit company, does not like alter our mission and a bunch of ways. Um but then you guys probably saw being chat launched uh which spurred this entire AI race with bard and google search general experiences. But microsoft has been adding gp t capabilities to literally everything ah we got copilot, we got being chat, we got uh microsoft three sixty five got all these air immigrations. So yeah like ky said, it's like we on but yeah we're not exclusive .

but like it's gone pretty good yeah they're able to leverage .

and control a lot of of the four profit wing yeah uh anyway, this all really took off since last november when chat B T. I got released um but sense then they have moved to a paid model GPT plus which gives people access to GPT for which is their latest model. Then delhi three came which was like the newest version of their text image generator. All the stuff um and people started building on top of G G P T four and the entirety of silicon valley sudenly had a bunch of AI startups which were really just GPT for rappers yeah which really felt very confusing to me.

I did IT also kind of felt like a gold rush away where I felt like every start up i'd seen had some, like my inbox you should see IT A I, A I, the what was there like for a while? IT became very popular to just say, yeah, so my companies like the uber of a blank, exactly. That was a couple years. And then it's now the ChatGPT of blank, or we are the chat bottom over the AI of blank. Yeah, everyone and everyone was .

just launching chat bots and for some reason saying IT was going to change the university. Ch, I don't chap of age. Yeah, but that will let up to this OpenAI dev day that we actually talked about on last three episode that happened two weeks ago where they announced GPT, which was your own personal like specifically tailor ChatGPT, that they were gonna a store for.

You could sell them. You could buy them very how you make a company at a corporation style thing happening, right? I like the idea which for for a nonprofit organization to be kind of like selling these GPT felt weird, felt a little weird.

But that was a way that they were like we got to make money out of this. And since then, sense twenty and fifty, the valuation of OpenAI has gone from mike twenty billion dollars up to about ninety billion. Just to give you context, that's what they're valued at right now or what they were valued at on thursday.

Um okay. And that brings us to this left friday. Ah now we should probably introduce you to the board of the organization because they're going to be very central to the story.

Uh so first we've got the C E O, same old men we've talked about before. Um so you're not reading the script in you. Now I was just a good question. Um okay, he was the he developed the social networking APP called loops when he was nineteen and twenty fifteen um and then he was a partner at why combinator, which is the biggest tech dic started incubator in the world and then eventually he helped found OpenAI win launch and twenty fifteen then we've got another cofounder we've got a greg brock men who was stripped co in two and thirteen and he left them in twenty fifteen to fund d and become the CTO of OpenAI and he had a lot of those early projects that they did.

Then you got the chief scientist, ellia suz cover, who, uh by the way, is the protege of Geoffrey hinton, who was the guy that invented the neural network, recently left google to go talk about why he thinks he is going to destroy the world. That was fun. 来。 okay.

So those of the board members, we're going to talk about them again in a bit. On thursday night, uh, alia tex sam asking to schedule a google meat call for friday afternoon. Note that sam was representing OpenAI at a conference on thursday.

You know they owned microsoft and not sky.

Just wanted to like what teams just yeah just .

wanted to like throw all that and they're .

a quick it's people are making this joke. They're saying it's ilaria a however, the call was coming from the nonprofit ARM of open a and the nonprofit is does not have an investment by microsoft. ExcEllent point vid. Thank you.

So they use the Better one. Yeah, yeah.

And people are making all these jokes on twitter like, please just never answer a google me call ever again. But he takes this google me call and they basically like fire him out of nowhere specifically alia, who was the um the other cofounder and they didn't really tell anyone why they fired him. They just said that sam was not consistently candid in his conversations with the board which is really vague, like very big yeah and everyone just starts wildly speculating as to what the heck hat and right .

including us in the slide.

including us in the slide um immediately after sams call, greg brock man, who was also on the board and the other cofounder that was not alia, got a google meat call as well, answered IT probably shouldn't have answered IT. After the first one happened, he didn't get fired, but he got removed from his board seat and they demoted him in the company but said he was going to stay in the company. And like they, they called him as they issued a press release saying he was staying at the company, he immediately treats out, no, i'm not staying at this company if you just get a randomly ly do this to me so he's like, I don't know what you guys are doing but i'm leaving with sam no matter what happens and he eat out this thing that's literally like we're still trying to figure out what happened yeah.

So very, very a brushed this beginning of the chance event yeah not really sure what triggered IT or what Sparked IT it's like, yeah yeah that's kind of unknown but IT is very quickly starting to send some dominos scattering ing yeah yeah.

yeah yeah the the entirety of the text spaces is just like what is happening right on tour already and then, uh ellia called for in all hands meeting friday afternoon where he defended the ousting and said that he was unnecessary to protect open ize mission of making A I beneficial to humanity so yeah, those bread .

comms lead .

you to believe, okay. I assume that the rest of the board thought that may be sam and greg, we're doing things that were more commercially driven, right? Yeah, if they wanted to focus specifically on making sure that A I was only being developed for all of humanity and wasn't being like affected by corporations, that maybe he thought that they thought the rest of the board that the sam was being like manipulated by satire.

Microsoft are being like overly leveraged by them. That's one theory. There are many theories going around. Yeah um microsoft obviously not very happy about because they have forty percent taken the four private company and they also allegedly did not know anything about sam getting fired until the press release one .

now yeah .

yeah when .

that happened.

if you google microsoft stock IT was just a straight line down.

He just went bone but yeah I cracked me. I'm wrong, David. The open a the OpenAI board does not hold a fiduciary responsibility to microsoft to share responsible to ico soft as the CEO of the four profit company of which ico soft but legally speaking, accord yeah the charter, the board is only responsible for not killing everyone, right?

And sam sam is on was on the board too. But yeah right that that is true. That is true. So all of a sun saut a makes the statement and like three in the morning, that's like we at microsoft still holds steadfast in our mission in committed to OpenAI as a strategic partner, were excited to get to know the interm CEO who they like randomly promoted from a role underneath sam at the time. And uh, everything's fine and everything's and steadfast and we're we're all cool. Was this like a weekend tweet to save the markets? Yes, I was like, I have to put this out before the markets open on monday because of the wise our stock is gonna totally die yeah um but then three senior executives also resigned in response to the news and specially at OpenAI and slowly people to started trickling out of the company as .

far as the time when is concerned.

When is this all have friday night, baby, this is still friday night. And when you say so little trickling, you mean very, very quickly, very quickly trickling. R, L.

IT was happening in real time on twitter. IT was insane, insane. okay. So I finally go to bed.

nice.

And now we're on to saturday morning, november eighteen. Open eyes sends an internal memo about how internal leadership is scrambling to fear out what happened.

And they're still having multiple conversations with the board trying to understand what's going on because the rest of the board, the remaining four people on the board or not being consistently candid in their conversations with the rest of the company, right? Um and as a recording right now, we still actually don't know why they fired samon. And greg, yeah. Like IT makes IT makes no sense. Hopefully by the time this mark x is live on friday will now happen but but who knows um but the memo that they sound said we can definitively say that the board's decision was not made in response to maleficent is that here pronounce .

that were maliphant? Yeah, okay yeah say yes.

I think so.

Oh okay. That word .

malfeasance maleficent. Or anything related to financial business safety or security slash privacy practices. So IT looks like seem didn't like break any major laws or do anything super legal or, I don't know, destroy the company financially.

Anything like that 是， uh, after this same started telling people that he was already planning a new venture because he tweed out like, well, i'm confused, but excited for what's next? Get ready to see what's next and then greg Brown was like bigger things coming soon. So within like twelve hours, they already seems to have a plan with what they wanted to do with the next thing.

Don't look back and yeah which so I just crazy. Now there been reports that sam has been apparently fielding investments for a new AI chip start up that could be competing with NVIDIA and reduce reliance on them. Um and there is a theory that he had been using open a eyes name to sort of get the funding for that.

Even IT was his personal start up that is just a lot of ers and reporting with that a potential theory right um after this, investors started exerting pressure on opa italian state sam because obviously people who who are leaving, they were just about to get a ninety billion dollar valuation and anyone could just pull out any time microsoft investment and open the eye isn't like they didn't give them all the money. They just give them credits and they could cancel the credits and say that they didn't fulfill their nations or whatever, right? So you could take this company from worth ninety billion dollars to worth like almost nothing in weekend and I didn't want to do that to the board.

Investors start going to open an eye and their like board you have to reinstate sam like this is a huge problem. Um the board ended up agreeing to reinstate him in principle. I'm not really sure what that means ah, but they couldn't come to a decision in the timeline that they were given.

They missed multiple deadlines on IT um and sam said that he was ambivalent on coming back and would need significant governance changes if he were to come back. That's saturday. Okay, okay, sunday. I wake up, I get out of bed, I brush my teeth, I opened my phone.

Oh my god.

what do you find? Uh, sam goes to meet the board at open H. Q, where he post a photo of him with a guest badge, saying it's the first and last time he will ever wear one of them. He is theoretically going in to negotiate with them on becoming C E O again, getting rid of the current board and working on getting a new board. And because again, they had theod ally agreed to replace themselves yeah.

I remember this on falling on my timing because I was still reading all the reactions of what a crazy day and tech that sam altman en is getting fired from OpenAI. This might be the crazier that, oh, he might be going back. okay? It's also an even crazy day, all that. And yeah, yeah, yeah like h this going .

to be a nothing burger. And then he goes back and he's trying to work with them to both find a new, to basically find new board members. And what was unna about this is that mira marta, who was the interm CEO that they elevated to CEO after they fired him, SHE was trying the one that was trying to work with them to get him rehired.

Yeah, he said this noon deadline for them to, like, figure IT out. They asked him if they could extend to five P. M. He said OK. And in the period in that five hour period of time where he asked if they could extend to five P M, they fired mirror and hire a new interm CEO, which to me just says that they are like telling him one thing and like trying to like shove something in at the last minute yeah which is which is not great um and they hired as the new interm C E. O am at here who is the cofounder of witch for some reason straight off the streets.

Yeah, like you do. You want to be the see.

you get over. I mean, apparently they went to a bunch of like, two different AI companies and asked them in five hours. In five hours.

S I call quick. You want a job. You want to be the CEO of OpenAI, your biggest competitor? Both of those people said no and apparently emit almost said no, but then said yes, which is kind of ironic because he's tweed and very weird stuff recently like he said that uh, he thinks the CEO job could easily get automated away except for a few key decisions, which is maybe why he .

joined .

interesting yeah okay um meanwhile, pretty much every single employee, open a eyes, started retweet sams tweet with heart eos which to me signals that they are basically saying like if you go start your own new company, we're going to come with you okay?

yeah. IT was almost every .

single employee. So they were just hard to logic. So they seem to like like crazy sam being the C.

E. O. People seem to like the CEO. So that was the end of sunday.

Okay, monday. I wake up, I brush my teeth, I opened my phone. Three, I am. It's announced that samon, greg and others will be joining microsoft, uh, to lead a new advanced A I research division.

This is all before the market been opened on monday.

cool. This all happened like forty eight hours. Yeah is so. And then saudia effectively says any other OpenAI employees that want to go to microsoft can come, which is hilarious. There were microsoft employees that were tween like these memes out being like, I thought we didn't have had cow. And now seven hundred and seventy employees are going to come to .

microsoft is also really funny, just in the context of you probably can't acquire OpenAI, but if they all leave at once and you hire all of them, technically you didn't .

acquire ire.

Bring good for my s oh.

that would be, yeah, it's going IT would be insane for microsoft. They get something for free. They already have all the asia servers like data have been already been working with them so closely.

That would probably be pretty easy for them to get back to Normal, right? Which seems great, except it's not great that microsoft R D, A giant tech jugg t, would now just own effectively the biggest can be in the world. Orb is the whole bunch of people.

I got activision blizzard. Now i'm going for an A. I know i'm coming for you. Yeah IT was a whole situation um very crazy yeah like wake we said like opening I was about to be valued to the eighty seven billion dollars in microsoft just effectively got them for free, which is insane.

That would be .

the biggest .

and after after such a said this, the stock Price went to the moon. So at first I dipped when seems that have fired and then was like, we are there like same woman moves markets billion dollars. But then a little bit later on monday, elia, the board member, that a kind of fired sam tweed out, that he deeply regretted his participation in the board's actions, and he's doing everything that he can to reunite the company, which is crazy because a lot of people were speculating that he was the one that convinced the board to fire some in the first place. Considering Jeffery hinton is like, you know, a person that he trained under was the one that is the most worried about evil AI taking over. And the biggest theory going around is that ellia was so concerned about the acceleration, the corporate means, that he didn't feel like the non profit part of OpenAI, which is supposed be the main part of the company, had any governance anymore and they just needed to replace him with someone who would slow down so it's insane that he saying .

that he I had everything yeah come back and yeah so people hate .

me as much exactly yeah um so then in the morning on monday, this letter comes out with five hundred and five of open in eyes roughly seven hundred and seventy employees saying that they will resign if samon rigger are not reinstated and the board is hosted um by five pm that number was up to seven hundred and thirty eight employees out of the seven hundred and seventy over ninety like eight percent and I would guess that the remaining like thirty employees were probably on vacation but do I guess .

because we are one of the few people that was like no one hundred and the oh with me .

oh you're dancing on the titanic that's wall yeah um but plot twist for the H B O drama that's about to come on a couple of years from this uh illiac name was also on this letter.

okay. That's just confusing.

That's just confusing .

what is so guy who fired sam says we demand stand back, yes. So we okay.

right? We both demand stand back and we demand that I am fired and replaced where yes.

yes, that's really committing to that.

I regret this is hard core committing to that well but like, isn't sam a microsoft imploy now I didn't had just say that he was to hire about and everyone saying, come back and then last night, monday night, saudia went on multiple interviews on like cnbc and on care wishes on podcast. And there like like isn't sam and microsoft in now and that is just like whatever sam wants to do, we could do. It's the ally up to him if he wants to come join us, uncle with that, if he wants to go back to OpenAI, i'm cool with that. I'll support him no matter what that .

sounds like we sent him something he hasn't signed yet. So I can't say he's employee.

Yeah yeah. He's fielding his options clearly. But this is insane that the C E, O of microsoft like put out statements being like they now work for us. We are starting a new experimental AI division. And that was just kind of a no maybe maybe IT was literally just to save the stock.

You sure to secure the yeah to secure the stock without having actually secured anything yet.

yeah. Now we are down to reports where sam is apparently trying to go back to the go back to OpenAI today, tuesday. As of this morning, they were apparently back in negotiations, are trying to get him back there. And the twitch CEO, who was the who became the intern CEO, the old twitch, you became the intern CEO of my is now saying he's going na resign if the board doesn't tell him what happened and why they fired him, which they didn't even tell him.

they even tell them no.

like I would hope that by now he knows but he I just. IT doesn't make any sense. So as of four twenty seven P M eastern time tuesday, they .

are up .

today. Okay, nothing has been posted so far so far. That's where were ads. Um there were reports that they were trying to get anthropic to merge with them to take over the board and anthropic as of one of open ize biggest competitors. They make an A I called cloud, which is supposed to be like a much more friendly, much more aligned A I and they have all these like guidelines and rules. It's it's a whole thing.

There are two potential outcomes that happen either some comes back A C E O, the board gets completely replaced and we are looking at a very, very different open eye even with the nonprofit board that probably doesn't care as much about um making sure that AI doesn't take over humanity. So that's for act currently. So either sam goes back and we have a very different company or he doesn't go back in the entirety of OpenAI goes to microsoft, uh and the actual OpenAI turns into a pile of dust.

Okay, if you have to make a prediction, which is such a silly thing to do, because you're onna know before this even goes life, but what would you quickly think is actually going to happen?

I think that the board is gna cave because each individual member of the board, like their reputation is on the line. There's three of them that are making this decision because alia caved and the entire company seems to disagree with the entire company, disagree with them. And I don't think those three people are ever going to have a job anywhere ever again.

They allow that to happen um however, that apparently their original like idea of open eye was that they want the company to be able to fail in the event that they disagree with the direction it's going in because they want so badly for uh these this I model to not take over the world and destroy the humanity ity or whatever that they're willing to like put the company up in smoke and they have so far resisted so much. That is also an equal possibility that that just doesn't happen. And then microsoft to becomes like three times more powerful. I think that he will go back to open a personally and this will all be kind of a nothing burger except for the fact that the company is completely restructured and it's much more of a four proper company. Um yeah what would you what would .

your prediction be? I I feel like I agree I just having a overwhelming whatever seven hundred plus out of seven hundred seventy all seem to send a pretty quick yeah obvious message that hey, we we preferred the way that was when I was running IT yeah then seems like they've made IT very clear that that's what they want to do so I don't know that is weird. It's a developing story yeah ah IT is that our marry up until this point. So at least as you now read further headlines you know .

of this history .

and where we were in the moment on tuesday.

fascinating stuff, these conversations that with him returning to the company, we're proposed to happen to day tuesday, pacific time. So three hours before currently right now. So this could change within the next few hours.

perfect. But and maybe they'll be able to add a little deficit tomorrow. It's changed by but but yeah, it's been very insane to watch happened in the real time will look at that it's a bless than twenty four hours later.

roque k. Said we'd be back if something happened. It's the next day something happens, happened so real quick, just a quick out on to actually get to the the point where we're going to just ship this episode what happens since yesterday.

okay. So yesterday we are speculating, uh, whether or not something going instated, whether can be new board as of like one stern time last night back, we predicted correctly open up yes yes, we did. There is a new board we predicted correctly ah ah open. I put out a statement that said we have a reach an agreement in principle yet again in principle, whatever that means.

I think that just means we haven't sign anything yet, but somebody set IT on the phones.

So account yeah ah for center return to open the I, S. A. With a new initial board of bret Taylor, Larry summer in adam to Angelo, we are collaborating to figure out the details.

Thank you so much in your patients through this. Um yeah okay. So just as a stage a little bright, Taylor is the former CTO of facebook and he was on the he was a chairman of twitter before the .

musk acquisition. You mean meta .

and x yes. For my god, he was also the co CEO of sales force until january of this year agate slack. Um yeah Larry summers is an economist and was the former treasury secretary for some reason.

I'm not sure why he's on board. Very strange anyway. Um the initial point of the board is going to grow IT to grow IT to nine people so that this kind of thing doesn't happen again.

Microsoft wants have a seat on the board and sam also wants to be on the board, but they are not on the initial board. And satya says he doesn't want any more surprises. Good, good statement.

I would be very terrified of something just showing up IT that night and I don't anymore surprise want any more surprises now do we? Um okay. I'd stove a couple questions from this though, right?

First of all, what happens to ellia because he was on the board, he got kicked off the board, but he also flipped to support sam as he told the company he signed that paper with the other seven hundred employees. I'm sure I keep doing research on this. I can't find anything.

And so may stuff will come out in the next um that's so as a recording. Yes yes. Um but obviously the biggest question is what actually happened here, right? And there actually has been some reporting that gives some insight into what people think actually happened.

There's this report from the new york times that says that that sam in the board have been fighting for more than a year now. But I got a lot worse after ChatGPT launched and everything got more commercialized. Apparently, Helen toner, which you even if you remember from earlier, was that Georgetown university person on the board SHE co.

Rote a paper for George town that was a very critical of opening eyes, approached to safety and praised and thropps approach to safety. Sam recommended HEllen for this paper according system emails that that times got a hold of. And he said, I do not feel we're on the same page on the damage of this paper.

Any amount of criticism from a board member Carries a lot of weight. He also apparently talked to a number of other higher ups about potentially getting her removed from the board. And l was apparently thinking about also wanting to remove them them from the board.

And then I guess since that they all over, like now sam needs to get removed from aboard. So I was already some friction. yeah. So there also used to be three more members of the board, but those positions never got filled. Um IT just seems like a lot of small things that kind of LED .

to a crazy weekend got IT. Okay, yeah well, now we know now, now we know, we know, we don't know what we don't know what we know what we know. So if if you didn't know now, you know but if you if we don't know, then you also don't know.

So that's true unless you went on the internet .

yeah OK that's the end of the interjection .

hope fully 点 fully ah yeah this that's up until three ten P M。 Wednesday, november twenty first, if things changed, I am sorry.

Shit, aren't I believe.

IT or not?

It's not the only thing that happened this week. There are some other things that we're still gona talk about, raft, the break. So let's do trivia.

do a leap, a interview. Tim cook.

SHE, did. They talked of our vision pro? SHE seemed very impressed. I knew you were hoping to know.

What do I need a thought of vision pro? SHE, got to try. IT, no, no. Oh no. really. They just talk about .

IT k about that time.

Guess, you know.

really wow, alright trivia also .

more news that's broken. Uh, well, we're reporting this podcast. Even ancient z yeah is pleading guilty doesn't really deserve a full news section because if you didn't see that coming, I don't know what's what the news european attention .

to but now trivia.

So continuing with our sam ultimate trivia this week, while building his first APP looked, sam altman reportedly worked so hard that he got what old timing disease know?

This is a you, this .

ganger's.

B scurvy.

C consumption, or d types.

Okay, I have a guess OK. Why do you know .

that I must have recently read this, I guess?

Yeah, right.

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Next week dot com flash away from. right? We're back. Jump in into the final section. We've got a couple quick hits that somehow weren't the biggest news of the past six, seven days yeah just sort swept the rug but still of interest might have headliners in their own weeks. Um interesting one for me was the polestar two quietly a range bump for the twenty twenty four model with a six hundred fifty five kilometer range that's over four hundred miles of range.

one hundred six .

and didn't seem to make that many headlines. I know pretty good.

I married you posting the tweet about IT from polestar, and I looked IT up to try to find articles they were only .

like two articles about just I was like a kind of a quiet music.

I think that would be more like, is that fairly major cause? Don't not that many A E S have over four hundred minds of range?

Really good point. I think I can only name E Q S lucid air. I don't think they are riving with the max long range models frames IT does two hundred and you post or what is the E Q S Megan EQ such as has around four fifteen or something like that looses way over four hundred really yeah the gravity that we just saw, as announced, a supose to ship with four hundred forty miles of range on the S U. V 啊。

Um I think if you have too many kids in the back seat.

i'm sure if you've loaded up, it's not forty miles. But you know that's it's cool to see I think ribbon might have an honest four hundred when they ship theirs with a range c with max pack, big y. So yeah, yeah, the post start add that to the list for underpowered ranges.

I think I got a pretty good number two that you want to hit. They're achieving this with a bunch of small things that sort of add up to like a ten percent boost ranged like a slightly larger battery goes from seventy eight to eighty two kilos hours OK. It's a little bit of a refresh, so it's a little more air dynamic. It's got the nose cone now so you add yourself together and you end up with a more efficient drive train.

But this is not yet the one that using the N A C S. Charger right. Ah that happens twenty twenty five.

Um I think this well, that's unclear. He doesn't tell me too much, OK IT just says the post AR two, the upgrade polestar two will have A A very breaking super laundry.

Ironically, the photos they twisted only show from the right side and the back, not where the church ported.

Yes, no. Inform that.

interesting. okay. I mean, that's what i'm most interested in. I don't really want to get an evy until everything starts moving about N S. anyway.

Yeah that that is a really good point. I feel like in the age of recommending evs, when you are really thinking buying a car, if you don't need one right now, if you are thinking about getting an E V, I would strongly suggest if you can wait one more year yeah, every single E, V that is going to get Better. They're all going to have the tesla charge port.

Almost all of them now have made that promise. If you going to have any CS and then have way more charges available to them as far as road trip goes, anyway, if you're never going to road trip, fine. And I guess that doesn't matter.

That is a hashtag pro tip. You are thinking about getting electric car anytime soon yeah pretty were having yeah um and then one more bit is we did get to the go to the f one race. This was sort of the background of all of this me and slice of the team.

We went out to lost vegas for one of the races near the end of the formula one season. Did you get to see this sphere? We did get to see the sphere.

It's just as exciting as the race. IT is quite a large vehicle building with screens on the outside. It's pretty sick. I first thing I noticed when I looked at IT and h Alice can verify I was like, I think it's ninety hts really I think it's ninety hts. wow. But it's hard to say like what is a ninety hurts thing at that scale? Like it's a huge it's an L D wall basically like this together like I think animations moving across the fear looked very smooth like there are .

ninety hurts but I don't know if they're refreshing and ninety we only want one thing and it's disgusting .

to see the l sphere IT is IT is super interesting thing. But yeah, everyone race was like us. It's a street race.

So part of the track was the last bigger strip. Yeah, he was a very picture of Grace was at night too yeah. But the one thing that's going to stick with me is just how much louder and more like this in person.

I was in brocas because I saw all your instagram stories and now you were just like, this is so insane. It's much more insane than through your phone. And I was watching through my phone was that .

doesn't seem like this is my pet peeve with with car videos online is none of them can actually give you the feeling of what the car sounds and feels like you. I've seen a lot of really good videos of like making up the the car and IT IT just peaks every time. You can actually feel the vibrations, the different, the difference was like the sub base, like the super low rumbles verses like the sound of the pitching.

You're like, none of that comes to own video. The base, that is your chest cavity. Yeah yeah. The loudest video i've ever taken in my life is when all of those cars lined up for the beginning of the race, twenty cars in a row, all at once, light turns Green. They all go, I think IT probably had one hundred fifteen.

Just something like that on my watch and on my phone if this sounds like which just sounds like a Normal like f one car passing by IT doesn't sound like crazy IT was just rattling the oud. So did you your plus, I should have earplugs. I should have apples done to my vacuum.

I could have warn airports. Pro, maybe get whatever. Yeah, now they gave us your plug.

Es, I didn't wear them. I wanted to experience IT. Yeah, with all of my and all of my being, yeah, I regret was awesome. Are you found now I ask us, yeah, the thing about going to, uh, an f one racing person is like, this is a formal tractor, whatever IT is.

And you can see most of the track most of the time, you only get to post up at like one turn right or one straight way yeah so what happening was are balcony. And I was looking out at the straight away, which was right between the last turn and turn one. But then anytime something interesting happened, you'd hear like a crowd reaction or a gas.

And I had turned around and look at the TV broadcast to find out what was happening, because that's what everyone else seen. And I turned back, and I turned back and i'd see, and I turned back around and i'd see what was happening on the screen. So there is one of them.

How long is one lap?

Literally ninety seconds. Well.

do you know how far, how many .

miles that is? So they're going the entire races, fifty laps, one hundred ninety miles.

That's wow. okay.

And it's ninety minutes long. wow.

Three point eight miles per la.

three point eight miles per lap, ninety seconds. Well, they are cruising. And so when I first got there, we posted up at that like straight away where the Cameron, the band and did turn one. And I was looking at the guys, I was like after you think .

they're going maybe one.

I think there might be going on ninety, but maybe one hundred hour around this turn hundred, two hundred ten. And then we turned around and look the broadcast, and they have like the cameras on the cars and the live speed real. Ts, yeah. And they were going one hundred and seventy five miles hour around the turn. The first turn, they're going .

so fast that you see the cars moving, and you think, wow, I always thought that if one car was so much bigger than that, that looks like a little itty bit tiny car, and then you see them stationary and you're like, wow, this is the biggest car. This is like A S, U, V size vehicle. IT IT works IT with every single part of your senses. I've never thought about the mean big under the smell.

Oh my, I love this. The race view.

view all the tires. There's just chemical in the area. I love hot.

tired, everything. Yes, IT is a much more. Every sense you have, from the vibration, to the smell, to the, to the visuals, to the, you can see the tires getting torn up in real time. Years ago, one side of tires last twenty laps, and then I done, oh god, torn up. It's very it's really interesting.

I know a lot of people that were criticizing them for being in vega as saying, I was just like a lot of spectacle and stuff, but when I think about when I was like a we lad of playing playstation two, playing ground terms more five, and a lot of the maps were like in vegas on the last vegas strip strip. And I was like that I would never be a real track in the fact the photos that I saw from IT, just like this, like all of the big beer, sometimes had a little a mogi face on IT, like watching the race as I went.

Then after the race, just to put the nail in the spectacle, coffee IT was like fire, like there was a coordinated fireworks show launched from the roof of every hotel in vegas that was literally like a city wide to pan around my firework shows. All these IT.

Vegas is like another universe. yeah. Vegas at night too, like eleven, twelve, midnight is IT was very picture risk.

Wow, super cool. That's crazy. So IT was a pleasure to experience IT. We were also working whole time, put each other a video about f one. I'm in a sort of, I IT will probably life around this episode, but f one explained, is, is, I am very sad about this video.

I'm afraid to learn about f one because after drive to survive came out IT felt like every single person in my life. It's like soccer or football. I, it's, it's like, whatever the world happens, everyone who I thought you did not care about soccer suddenly is like, knows every little thing about soccer. And IT felt the same way after drive to survive came out. It's like everyone's a documentary and how everyone that I know cannot stop talking about f one.

There is definitely element of that, the world coming together for a cultural event. My favorite part outside of that is how much what happens in f one affects what happens outside of f one. So there's the obvious part, which is like these are a bunch of engineers developing like the tiny st fraction of a second improvements on these cars and spending millions of dollars to figure out what works.

That stuff will eventually trickle down to the car as you and I get to drive, which is super cool yeah, even if it's just like a simple thing, like a recent materials. exactly. And IT literally is like far ries out there racing cars around the track.

And then they figure out all of the improvements over time. F one have been one team. Sometimes one guy on one team goes, I think if we put a wing on the front, XL IT will give us more downforce and that could let us turn faster.

And they'll do that. We'll do that on their car and they will roll out their car. And one of the car is will be mysteriously faster for some reason before all other teams figure out what's going on and do their own version of IT. And that literally happens every year with some innovation on .

the car dying OK them question potentially, is that why all the f one cars kind of look same? Yes, because theyve all like kind of fell .

on this one form. Fact of good observation. If you, yes, if you scrawl back far enough, they all kind of look like simple tubes with wheel.

And as you fast forward over time, you can watch them all more to get flatter and more blade shaped. And then they start to add the same features. But if you're observing enough, you can find our cavo footage where one of the cars has a front wing and none of the rest do.

And in the next season, all of them have front wings and then one of the cars has this arrow feature. And then the next season, because I worked really well, all the rest of my favorite one stuff doesn't work. So in two thousand, one, there is ever stop in car that had a huge front wing sticking off of the front, which was like a stupid looking spoiler over the front axle, and they rolled IT out for a race. And I just didn't work that great, and we never saw again.

Oh god, why do they think that I would work?

Because downforce on the from axel keeps the front tires planted Better around. Turn a lot of so I would I think of that look, sometimes the car and it's so secretive too. It's like when apple does something secretive, it's because they don't want anyone to copy them. When these cars companies, these teams do something secretive, it's secretive until the moment IT roles out onto the track. And if anyone sees IT, it's out war.

There is a mclarty car that had a third break pedal inside the car, and nobody knew what was going on, until a photographer saw that on one side of the car during a corner, their breaks were hot and they were like, glowing, and they were like, that kind of weird, because the car supposed be accelerating out of this corner, but the breaks are still hot. What is going on? It's because this was a track that mostly turned left, and so they added a brake pedal in the mclean that would break just the left side tires while they were turning, so you could celebrate a little wall still breaking the inside wheels, which let you turn fast. G IT was insane, and no one could tell how they did IT until they, someone, I forgot the story, but someone figured out, like, there was A A clean car got left out after race. And somebody took a picture of the inside of IT .

in song extra pedal and was like, we got, so, like, you can do whatever you want to your car.

Basic, there are rules yeah within the rules you must .

yeah more than engineering competition.

IT is exactly what that is. yeah.

I'm trying .

so hard so welcome to the cold, my friend. The last races and I would have be this weekend, i'm sure you'll be watching along with the rest of us um yeah but the biggest race was very cool.

cool and I was like one of two races that have s in the us.

Yeah, I like to, I think Austin and miami OK and I think is the last one crazy, cool, right stuff that video goes out around this time yeah, watch if you haven't already.

otherwise we know that. Do a lipa try the fashion pro? No, I don't know. Sorry, SHE interviewed him, interview, they talked about, I bet you he tried IT there's no way that kintchuk came and was like, what an incredible thing we've made and then didn't let do a lipa .

try IT when then be insane no.

that would be the most tim cook thing one hundred and I will be in your podcast to talk about IT really can try.

but they let me try.

I'm sure i'm sure he could try IT if he wanted to yeah i'm sure they would get her a briefing.

My thing is like tim cook were to come on this podcast and he flies to new jersey. He sits down in these chairs. You think he's bringing in .

a vision pro with him to let us try and know he would flex on us the news and vision pro for about a year now? Like, yeah, and I know never shown .

a photo of me wearing IT, ever yeah, you're never me wearing IT for sure. interesting. okay. Well, that was the totally nothing going on a week in technology this week. Thanks for tuning in.

Next tuning and hopefully for the love of the sake of my eyeballs and my attention span, please do not do this again on thursday night or friday night or will have to do trivia. yes. Yeah, i'm trying to keep you guys up today with what's going on in technology.

And when you do things on thursdays and fridays, we can't. It's tough. So alright.

we did our best to get our tribe out here for the time.

Chivy.

i'm writing both. My answers are writing in both.

Pick up that on the school. okay? Markets with thirteen. Andrew with twelve, David with one.

This is so Carry the one. Well, look, I knew what my job was before this. I also knew what I like a camera stood for. Okay, question one one. One year before OpenAI was launched.

in two thousand fifteen for a hotel of eight days, sam man was the CEO of White popular social media company. Market already has .

the answer. Pencil down. yeah. okay. If d is only like two possible answers.

there are many more social media companies, a.

but that have had leadership changes .

for eight days.

Is what's your guys some curious correct?

The .

only twitter ding dong.

I was up and i'd sled ahead on this one. He also instated Steve huff men after him. He did so.

which was another fun.

fun fact. Yeah, alright.

continuing the same ultimate party bus, train cabs, a airplane, uh, while building his first one PPT .

f one a while building first, yeah, kind of while billions first .

APP sam altman en reportedly worked so hard, he got what old timing disease.

Mars is already writing his answered, just put the down.

I got to multiple choice.

Do you need IT?

A, yang Green, O, B, security. c. Consumption, or d types?

What is consumption?

Consumption is an old timmy word for tuberculosis. It's like what they used to call tabora losses.

Yeah, scary, scary. both.

correct. Sam altman suffered from corvy .

when you asked that question for some reason. I just knew IT, but I don't remember reading exactly I N that. Did you just like a whispered to us .

one guys a today I put .

mark zz of one script in tt gbt, and I asked if I was accurate.

What is say?

He just said, like here I can really do. What is that actually really? Yeah.

I was going to say that that's how he implanted somehow, this knowledge, your brains. But the stories .

actually asked for an f one script that's IT what should be good.

okay. Yeah, I said is is there anything incorrect in the script and then I just posted mark as entire script and IT said the script revised appears to be a detailed and enthusiastic introduction to formula one, likely intended for a video format. IT cover is a wide range of topics, including the sports history, technology, CT rules and personal experiences with the sport.

Wow, without specific content on the accuracy requirements or the intended audience, here's some general observations. One, IT is very comprehensive. The script does an excEllent job of covering various aspects, including the technical side, the history rules is smoothly integrated, linking, linking their specific industry standard focus to f one's emphasis on safety and technology. This kind of integration is effective for response red contents personal variation style, the script is written in a personal and relative style, which is engaging for views. IT narrates personal experiences, opinions, and makes IT more engaging .

than a straight forward central.

No, but it's very nice to me.

The IT has a eight of these these pillars.

And at the end, IT says, in summary, the scripters were constructed for an informative and engaging video on formula one, especially for viewers who have a basic standing of the sport and are interested in learning more. The integration of personal experiences and the explanation of technical aspects are particularly strong points.

I don't think any of us in the studio .

could have given compliment.

IT also says that you had very good engagement and passing IT said accuracy without cross referencing every fact. Pt seems very .

accurate. No urp SE I need to hear ChatGPT is specially endorse this video. I hadn't watch IT when I comes out.

Hopefully it's out soon. So yeah, hopefully it's really right. Yeah and enough one car anyway that will be there for now that hopefully no other news comes out. Thanks for watching in the next one. In the .

next way, from this produced by admin S. V we are part with box partner into extra gives. And that was a bad that was a that bad.

To do a little gets try the vision pro. No, what happened with the space x rocket?

IT exploded, exploded.

How many miles of range as the poster .

to have four hundred and seven? It's four or six point nine. six. So seven.

how many percent less energy does, I can seem, fifteen, nine. Anyway, OK, I think think you're .

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