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All right, what's going on, people of the internet? Welcome back to another episode of the Waveform Podcast. We're your hosts. I'm Marques. And I'm Andrew. And this week, we're coming at you from a different place. You can probably tell if you're listening to audio only, it might sound a little different. But if you're looking at the video, it clearly looks a little different. Just a 10. Yeah. We are in Apple Park because this week, Apple has an event and we typically record on Wednesdays and
And we figured it would be ideal if we just stayed here and record the podcast here. Lucky for us, they have a podcast studio. Yeah, and what we just found out today, so Justine and Renee did a podcast episode for WWDC, and I thought that was just going to be some permanent studio they had here, but this looks different, if anyone noticed that.
It looks like we're in space a little bit. A little bit, yeah. But they recreate this for different events, and I'm just sitting here kind of awestruck in what we're sitting in. So I hope if you're watching on video, you appreciate all of this.
it's kind of intense for me. I'm used to being like holed up in our little podcast studio. It's nice to change. I think we, we do want to shoot in different spaces sometimes. So we're in, we're in the Apple spaceship officially. Yeah. I think last Apple event, we did a live podcast. It was in a hotel room. So this is far, far better than that. But like we did that one episode in the,
What car were we in we were we did it in your in my car. Yeah. Yeah, so I think that's that's a fun thing Well, I hope this sounds better than that. I think it'll sound better. Okay. Well, we got a bunch of stuff to talk about they did their classic September Keynote which was it was a screening of an event so they recorded it It had all the cool transitions animations that we're so used to we all got to watch it in the theater and then we got to play with this stuff so there is a new iPhone lineup and you watch lineup and
and some new AirPods. Yeah. What do you think we should talk about first? Can I first talk about how this is my first time in Steve Jobs theater? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. How is it? What is your impression? Because maybe I'm a little jaded at this point. Yeah, I've been in the top part. I've never been in the actual theater. Right. Really cool. I honestly think my favorite part is that all the handrails are like carved into the marble of the staircases, which is just like one of those little things that you notice that is just like on another level.
Architecture nerds would have a lot of fun on this campus. But yeah, it was really cool. I got to witness my first live good morning. Good morning. We're so glad you could join us. Which is like...
bucket list check right now, so I'm pretty amped about that, but it was super fun. Really glad to be here, and we were rewarded with some pretty cool things. Let's just start with AirPods right off the bat. - Okay, let's start with the smaller updates. So AirPods Pro, new AirPods Pro. - Yes. - $249 wireless noise-canceling earbuds. We've seen this before. There are some updates to the buds themselves,
I think the bigger update is to the case, actually. I really like the new case. But for the buds, I have my notes here because I was writing furiously while I was tweeting the entire event. You probably saw my tweets. But let's see. AirPods, because this is the update we got here. New H2 chip, which will enable new adaptive transparency mode.
Now, I've talked about transparency mode on AirPods before being really good. This new adaptive transparency mode samples 48,000 times per second and can identify spikes in outside volume and actually cancel those out. So it has still letting in sound from like your normal environment. But if you walk past the construction zone, it might cancel the jackhammer out while you walk by.
I thought that was really interesting, kind of like a hybrid between both of them because transparency mode is awesome because you want to be aware of people around you and maybe more important noises, but you don't always want to hear the like high decibel spikes, like potentially eardrum damaging noises. So being able to eliminate that while still having transparency mode for that is fantastic.
Really, really neat. They also said they have an improved noise cancellation two times the amount of cancellation versus original AirPods Pro. I think that two times number you're going to notice as kind of a theme over the event. I feel like there's a lot of things that are twice as good as previous. You'll see that through a little faster or a little more.
But we also have touch control on the stem 33% increased battery life. You mentioned the case I really like the lanyard the case is sick. Yeah, the case is really the case They added a little anger thing on the side very a small touch a lot of them have like little things like that already the Sony's have that already but it was nice because this is the thing I think is they realize people lose not just individual ear ear pods, but they lose the case all the time and
And all the changes to the case are so that you are less likely to lose the case. So you can put a lanyard on it, finally. There's also now a speaker on the bottom of the case so that it can play a sound and you can find it more easily. So if you're in find my mode, you're doing the sort of location thing where it shows you exactly where to find it. That's helpful, but obviously having a sound playing from it, super good. So you're less likely to lose the case now. There's also a little MagSafe feature
It'll snap onto the MagSafe charger. Yes. It's great. Better case. So that's the AirPods update. It's pretty small. This is the type of thing where like I kind of just have to try it to use it and figure out how good it is. They should have a six hour claimed battery life from one charge, which is 33% more than the original AirPods Pro. And then 30 hours total of listening as you continue to charge it up through the case.
But there's really no other huge changes. Not like they added USB-C or did anything crazy. Like this is still very much normal looking AirPods. For sure. I do agree. I think it's going to be something we need to test, which we didn't get to do a whole lot of today. They made a lot of claims saying that it does sound much better. There's lower distortion on drivers. Yeah. Stuff like that. So,
It's hard to tell that in a... I really appreciated, though, in the event, the transitions of the person who is showing it off, going through the subway to the construction site. They walk out of the subway to the construction site. Those transitions are what every other...
Event like live event we've seen thrive like would like to be and isn't instead you have like Carl pay walking out of a room into another room of nothing that looks dumb I had a thought when I was watching the keynote I had this thought and I tweeted it the thought was Jesus the audio is so good. Where are the microphones and I'm watching this I'm like maybe they're recording the voiceovers after maybe this is such a big production because every single person has to then record their lines over again to dub over what they were talking about and
And I tweeted it. And then I had someone at Apple tell me, nope, it's all real. It's all real. It's all real lines. There are recording in those crazy environments. I mean, there's obviously incredible...
situational control where they can make sure everything sounds perfect but it does it does sound kind of perfect out there it feels like magic it's like AI is what I'm assuming it is I don't really know but um yeah I think that's all we really have for air pro pods Pro maybe let's uh take a quick jump into like one of the Apple watches and then we'll take a break and I got the rest of the Apple watches maybe SC since that's the the smaller up sure okay so Apple watch lineup is
has, there's three new watches. - Yes. - Apple Watch SE, Apple Watch Series 8, and then Apple Watch Ultra.
So the way the lineup was before, it was Apple Watch Series 7, and then they kept around the previous generations. Like the Apple Watch Series 3 had to stay around to be the cheap one, and they also had the SE. So now the SE is the entry-level one, and that's coming in at, let me double-check before I say it, I believe it's $249. $249 for GPS, $299 for cellular. Okay. So it's at the bottom of the lineup, but it's going to be better than the Series 3 in pretty much every way. Bigger screen, better updated design. It has the new S8 SIP display.
new sensors so there's a new temperature sensor in there there's a new gyroscope is that in the se yeah the temperature yeah they mentioned that yeah so the new baseline to the apple watch lineup is is better this is this is they mentioned it i think kind of like the ideal watch to get you an ecosystem for like maybe a kid that's or a family watch i think as a family like and you don't want to spend as much as a kid being able to have that was still emergency sos and like crack crash
crash detection and stuff like that, being able to track your kids and everything if you're sending them off. I know my first cell phone was because I was on the baseball team and my mom wanted me to have some way to be able to contact emergency services or her. So with this, you have a cheaper version of being able to, you could put limited contacts in it and you could also do emergency contacts. So it feels like a great thing to send a kid off to
to school or something like that. My first, my first phone is a much nerdier reason. I was going off to take summer school classes at a college. Nice. Just math stuff. That's awesome. I got a flip phone out of it. So that was nice. Um, you want to talk about crash detection? That was the one. Here's the thing. There's no way I'm going to be able to test crash detection. I thought it was our next briefing. I haven't told you that yet. I don't want to test crash detection. Okay. So there's a new pair of sensors in the Apple watches, all of them.
that are number one, a high G-force sensing accelerometer and number two, an updated, more precise gyroscope. And one of the things they've enabled in the software in watchOS 9 is crash detection. Literally, they've already had fall detection. Like if you fall off a ladder or you fall down the stairs, obviously elderly people will be able to notice that
that it's saying, hey, do you want to call SOS, call 911, things like that. Now, if you're in a car crash and you're the only one in the crash and you have your watch on you, you can call SOS from there. Or actually, it'll automatically call as soon as you crash because it sensed the crash. Cool. I'm not going to test that.
No. I trust it. I just trust it. I did find it interesting that they said a majority of crashes happen with single driver in rural areas. So where that would be super important. Yeah. I mean, even if it's not just a single driver, if the crash is bad enough, there's a good chance neither of them are able to contact emergency services. So it basically pops up, says emergency SOS if you were in a like
we sense that you were in a crash, swipe to ignore, or if they don't see anything in there, or you can just call it straight from that. I think that's super important. We've seen a lot of things with Apple Watch and just Apple in general is like safety is a huge priority and they do a lot of really, really fun and good things
and important safety measurements. - That was the opening, I was gonna say monologue, but it was the opening scene for the watch was a bunch of different situations where the Apple Watch in an edge case basically saved a life just 'cause it has these monitoring features and it was able to do that, which is pretty cool. - Yeah, bear in your kitchen, you've got an Apple Watch, you're good to go. - Exactly. One thought that came through my head, which is probably an unreasonable thought, but I thought it anyway,
is, is there ever going to be an accidental trigger for crash mode? Cause you know how you like run up the stairs or something and then your watch is like, Hey, are you working out? Would you like to start a workout? And you're like, no, but I am kind of doing a lot right now. Sometimes, uh, sometimes you jump and land and your watch thinks you fell.
That happens to me. Does it? Sometimes. Well, I don't know if it's going to happen, but will this ever happen where someone does something so insane that it thinks they crashed? I hope not. So a good question that I didn't see in there is when that notification comes up, is it going to vibrate or buzz your hand or something? So you know that that's up because then I don't see it happening because...
you're in that scenario it thinks you crashed you get the buzz and look and then you can ignore it right you can hit i'm okay but if not or you just happen to miss it because you're super distracted something then maybe but i see that as being a pretty it's probably pretty good probably a lot of g-forces and a lot of sensors going into going ah this is a car crash it was a lot that happened
Yeah. Do you think anybody is going to do a YouTube video of I tested the Apple Watch crash test? Yes. 100%. I think there will be a YouTube video. It will not be a studio video. It won't be. I can guarantee that. It won't be, yes. All right. Let's take a quick break. Let's come back, talk the rest of the watches and the phones. Also, quick mention, we normally do trivia right here. We are going to save all of it for the end. We have some recorded things, but we have limited time here and we just want to make sure we get all of the regular podcast in before we do trivia. Yeah. But-
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All right, we're back. Let's talk about the rest of the Apple Watch lineup before we get onto the phones, which is, I have a lot to say about all this stuff, but let's do the Watch Series 8 and the Watch Ultra. I'm so excited for the Ultra. Okay, okay. Let's hurry this part up, yeah. I want to hear your thoughts on this too. So the Apple Watch Series 8 is very similar to the Apple Watch Series 7. It's in the same case. It's a very similar design, same size, and same price, $399 for GPS, $499 for cellular devices.
But there are some small new things that are changed, which is nice. It has the new temperature sensors. Yeah. It does use those temperature sensors along with a bunch of other information for advanced cycle tracking. So women who need to track that sort of stuff, obviously retroactive ovulation estimates, things like that. That's new to the Apple Watch. And most importantly, there's Apple and privacy and those things being encrypted and super private for people that are tracking those things, which I think is fantastic.
There is the two new motion sensors I mentioned earlier for crash detection. And then there is a new low power mode. So the watch currently has the same quoted 18 hour battery life, but there's a new low power mode that disables some things like always on display and auto workout detection. And that can get you a longer battery life. I kind of do that anyway when I know I want to save battery. Like I put it in theater mode. Right now my watch is off because it's in theater mode and it doesn't have the always on display going.
but it'll have a mode where it just does a bunch of things smartly to save you battery. Yeah. It says up to 36 hours of battery life on a full charge with that low power mode, but it still is giving you a lot of like, you still can activity track. You still can do a lot of normal things, but it's just finding those more things that always need to be constantly like in tune, like,
auto activity tracking, which it feels like you're not losing that much out of it, but getting extended battery life. We all know how much I love the battery life on the Apple Watch. So I'm hoping this does increase it. And what's cool about that is it's available on the Series 4, anything over Series 4, as long as it has watchOS 9. So that is coming to other watch models. So they're saying 36 hours right now.
The way I use the Apple Watch, I get a day and a half of use out of the Apple Watch, which is my 36 hours. So if they're saying the normal battery life is 18 hours and then the low power mode battery life is 36 hours, then it's roughly doubling the battery life if you just leave it in low power mode all the time. Hopefully. I want you to test it. I want you to bring it to a tournament with no charger, and I want you to put it on low power mode and see if you can get home Sunday night or Monday morning.
That's a legit test. I would really like to see that. Two full days, two and a half days. Okay. I will do that. That's a real test I will run. Okay. All right. Well, that's the Apple Watch Series 8. It's going to look very similar, but we then got a new watch added to the top. Let's just do colors and price real quick, and then we'll... I know you're excited to get to Ultra. Sorry, yes. But let's do... There it is. Midnight Starlight Silver Red in aluminum and silver.
silver, gold, and graphite I have for stainless steel. Is that what you have? I think that's all the same as last year. It might be. I'm not 100% sure. Sounds familiar. But $399 for GPS, $499 for cellular. Also...
Hopefully we have all the information here. We have literally gone from the event to shooting to like a 10 minute lunch to shooting some more to write into here. So we have been cleaning this all up as we go. I haven't stopped moving since this morning. No, we have not. I'm very excited to sleep tonight. Ultra time. Ultra time. First off, the name.
Not what we expected. Okay, so they said the name Ultra on stage and I was sort of like taking my notes and I already started writing Apple Watch Pro. I was just like ready for the Apple Watch Pro info. And then they said Ultra and I was like, oh.
Okay, yeah, that's kind of the name we use for a lot of companies' highest end, most extreme things. I mean, Galaxy S22 Ultra, how many other Ultra products do we know about? So this is fine. It's fine. It's Ultra. It's different. We did mention how LG potentially had a trademark on Watch Pro, but I didn't think that would affect it because Watch Series 8 Pro, we thought it would be, but it could have also been Watch Max. So Watch Ultra was just, I heard a couple of gasps in the audience like, oh, yeah.
I mean, they already have an ultra, the M1 ultra. True. So it's like, it's, it's above pro ultra is above pro in that lineup. So maybe this is even better than pro. It is what it is. Anyway. Okay. Here's what it is. The, the way they introed it, which I think is probably the most important is it's a watch for exploration, adventure, and endurance.
So when you picture an Apple Watch for exploration and adventure and endurance, you picture a thicker, titanium, durable, flat Apple Watch with a much larger battery and more features. And that's what it is. That's what it is.
I keep going back and forth between, man, this watch is really big and man, this watch is really small for what it is because there are some Garmin watches, right? I'm looking, I'm thinking about the really big, the Garmin watches, the rubberized military shock resistant, all these gigantic watches that look hilarious on my wrist. Like I don't have a very big wrist and those watches look ridiculous. And so this Apple watch looks ridiculous.
compared to those. - It still looks huge. You could tell the people in the event that had it on before they even like really announced it and it was just a chunk on your wrist. - It's huge compared to the watch I'm wearing now. So, okay, all the details, I'll just go down the specs and we have some reactions to these, but it is a flat sapphire crystal display instead of like curving over the edges. That's a plus for durability. It is their biggest, brightest display. It's a 49 millimeter case and it'll do up to 2000 nits.
of brightness, which is pretty sick. That actually matches the phone that we're gonna talk about in a second, but you can use literally an all white screen as a flashlight. It's that bright. That's pretty cool. And then if you were just thinking, all right, I wanna make a more ruggedized Apple watch, what would I do?
All of those little things that you'd picture, like bulking up the digital crown, adding a sort of like a crown guard, making the buttons protrude more so you can hit them with gloves on, having a second set of speakers that are larger that can go up to 86 decibels for a siren in an SOS situation. All these things, they did all of it. And so now you end up with a watch that is thicker on your wrist, but also has more room inside for a battery.
And so the last spec, which is the battery life, is 36 hours of battery life, 60 hours with the new battery optimization setting coming later this fall. I'm very interested to see what that is. So 36 hours battery life. Yeah. If you think about it, how you say 18 hours is a day and a half. So 36 hours feels like it should be maybe a little longer than that, maybe underestimating. I'm going to say if this is double, 36 hours, then it should last me three days.
That would be awesome. Because it's one and a half now, so three days. It's still...
I would like to see how it compares to the Galaxy Watch 5 Pro because both of those were watches that I felt had very mediocre battery life beforehand compared to like a Garmin, which can have like eight days of battery life that I've experienced and it's phenomenal. So both of those, we haven't fully tested the Watch 5 Pro yet and now we're gonna be testing the Ultra and hopefully both of those are going over two days. I'm hoping that over two days, including sleep tracking and stuff. An entire weekend, it must last a weekend. Yeah.
I think it has to last a weekend. But then the 60 hours with the battery optimization, they didn't say much about it. It's coming later this fall, they said. I'm interested to see what it is, if it's similar to this low power mode. The whole thing about it is a lot of these new features gives you all these crazy, like the compass on it is wild. It has waypoints you can add with the button on the side. Yeah, I'm going to get into it. Yeah, they did a bunch of stuff with the hardware, but they also did a bunch of stuff on top.
Which is number one the the the faces that you mentioned it has specific new wave point watch faces With compass built in and all this cool stuff very cool. It also has specific new Watch bands that are launching with it. There are three new bands. They're so good This is I swear this is what's gonna sell you on the the watch is just the bands that are sick You don't even have to by the way the bands you can buy them separately. We
They fit on other Apple watches. We tested the, because it's 49 millimeters, it's much bigger than say like the 44 millimeter SE, which I took the band off of all of the ultras that we saw in the shooting area and put it on the 44. It fits. There's a very, very little, I mean, like if you put a macro lens up to it, you could see there's a little bit of overlap. You will never notice it on your wrist. You can 100% use these bands on any watch that you have. And yeah,
Let's see, it's the Alpine, it's the Trail, and then the other underwater one. Ocean Band. Ocean Band, okay. The Trail is the greatest smartphone.
smartwatch band I've seen on any watch, smartwatch ever. It is so comfortable. We've seen a lot of bands. It's everything that I love. I've talked multiple times about liking the Solo Loop because when I'm typing, I hate anything that's like a hard piece of plastic or metal, which most watches have, that my wrist is sitting on. And when I'm climbing, that happens a lot also. This is...
Elastic, Velcro, has a really nice soft nylon pull tab. It is perfect. - It's thin. - I love it. It's thin. - It's durable. - It's ultra comfortable. I was just wearing it in the shooting scenario for like a while for absolutely no reason. - Just keeping it on. - It was great. The Alpine one is also really cool. That does have like a metal hook, but it has a bunch of really cool loops around the whole watch band, and then you can just hook it in.
and adjust it whenever you want. For high speed water sports. No, that's the ocean band. Yeah. Oh, that's what I thought you said. No, that's the like bubbly one with the, that one was fine. I'm not that into that one, but yeah. Maybe for scuba diving, which they mentioned a lot of stuff about this watch and scuba diving. I have zero,
This is literally zero experience when it comes to that. So hopefully somebody out there can be like, a scuba dive, that seemed cool. This is how I think they designed this watch. They went to a bunch of athletes in a bunch of extreme sports and said, do you use the Apple Watch? And the ones that said, I wanted to, but I can't, it can't actually keep up with me. They talked to those people and added all the features they cared about. So somewhere there were some divers who were like, yeah, the Apple Watch, it is water resistant, but I dive down to 70, 80, 90 feet and the watch isn't rated for that. So then they made the watch...
rated for WR 100 water resistance. Now it'll go down to a hundred feet. Now there's a dive app that'll measure how fast you're going down and it'll measure the water temperature and how fast you need to come up to still be okay. All this stuff. They talk to those divers. Then they talk to people who run marathons. I think Adam did this. Adam, if you're editing this, maybe you can add a little, little text above my head or something, but I think
the watch dies before the end of a marathon. I actually had a really fun conversation with, um, his channel is called hella good. He's, um, the runner who ran across the United States. And at the end with Casey, he's here at the event, uh,
I think he's super excited for this ultra. He's wild. He does some really cool marathons or like hundred mile races, stuff like that. He said his Apple watch usually dies. I'm sure he's excited for this because he loves what we have always said. He loves the motivation and the streaks that you get from it. But he generally wears, he said four watches when he's testing stuff. Yeah. Um,
Highly suggest going to his channel. I think whatever we do on the Apple Watch Ultra, his channel is going to have the really intense stuff that we'll probably never figure out. But he was a super nice guy and I cannot wait to see what he thinks about this watch because he's tested...
a lot in scenarios that I could never dream of accomplishing. So they definitely talked to people like him. Yeah. And those people said, I can't use this watch because the battery doesn't last long enough for GPS tracking for five straight hours. Then they went on to add enough battery life to do an Ironman, which is like a, what is it? A two mile swim, uh,
100 mile bike ride and then a marathon, GPS tracking and heart rate tracking the entire time. And they said that on stage. And I was like, oh, so you listen to those people. Perfect. That's what they did with this watch. It seems like. I think we need to make Adam do an Ironman. Adam is going to be doing an Ironman to be testing the battery life of the Apple Watch Ultra. He'll have fun hearing this one. He gets all the files to edit later tonight. He's going to do it.
Dual frequency GPS for higher accuracy and better accuracy in more challenging environments. Again, it was a specific call out to like, if you run the Chicago Marathon, which is in a city with a bunch of skyscrapers blocking your view of the sky, you had trouble with GPS tracking for your run. This will solve that. I assume they're correct about that. I haven't run that marathon myself, but Adam's going to run that too to test that. We love Adam so much. He's the best. So this watch will be $799.
When we were watching the keynote, we were trying to guess what the price would be. I said $899. All the rumors were around $1,000. And I just said, my prediction for this is hopefully not $1,000. So $800, I think, is reasonable. There are a lot of Garmin's out there, some of the big running watches that are right around there, $699, $799. So I think it's in a fair spot. I think people who are... I've kind of been calling it like the GoPro of smartwatches because it has...
all these incredible, really cool, super intense things that all of us think we do but don't actually do, kind of like when you buy a GoPro and then never actually use it. So I think it'll still work for everyday life and just increase battery life, but I think there are gonna be some people out there who are like, "Yeah, I've got night vision mode "and all this crazy stuff, "and I'm just walking around my local park." - It is interesting. Okay, so a bunch of people at the event asked me, "Oh, Marques, you're getting the Watch Ultra, right?"
And I'm not sure, like I'm really not sure. So here's why, I like this watch and it is small,
And when I play, actually, I wear the watch on my left wrist because I don't like having a whole bunch of stuff on my throwing wrist, right? I play Ultimate. I'm throwing with my right hand. The titanium watch is lighter than you'd think. It was surprisingly light. So I was worried, like, oh, man, this is going to be heavy. Like, I do want all the extra features, but I don't want a huge heavy watch on my wrist all the time. But it's lighter than you think, so I think I'd be okay with the weight. But it is still bigger and thicker, and I'm already, like, on the edge of, like...
How much computer on my wrist can I tolerate? And I don't know if in everyday life that isn't extreme sports, I would want to have this huge computer on my wrist thing. Like I can still dress up. I wore it to the Met Gala. Remember? Like I can still dress up and Apple watch not to flex, but like it's fine. You can wear it in like normal places and people don't look at it twice.
uh would you wear a garment to a nice dinner i don't really think people want to do that so i don't know to each their own i guess i really don't want two watches it is chunky it's it's a big watch um
I don't know. I can imagine. I don't know if I would play ultimate with it. That's a lot of watch, like hanging around, like swinging at people. I would golf in it easy. Yeah. Cause I'd wear it on the left wrist and I'd have the GPS tracking going the whole time. And it would be great. I would, I mean, I would kill to take it hiking. There's a bunch of things that would be great for it, but how it's like a GoPro or how often are you going to do that? You're going to have it sitting around thinking like, Oh, I'm going to go hiking every day. And then all winter you're like,
This huge watch. Maybe it's the extra set of motivation. You need to get out and do that and stop playing Valorant every day instead. So...
Yeah, still no group fitness competition. Yeah, still no group fitness competition. What do you think of overall design real quick before we get off of this? Of the Ultra? Yeah, because basically what it is is it's a bigger... It's a 49-millimeter Apple Watch, but it has, like you said, bigger digital crown. It has a big chunk coming out of the side of it, like a protrusion, and then it has an extra button on the side, which is orange, which I actually didn't like. Didn't even mention that. Okay, yes. I do like the design. I'll just say, like...
On the left, there is an extra button. It's called the action button. It is orange. All of the watches of the Ultras are the same. They all have cellular, they all are silver titanium looking, and they all have an orange action button.
And I kind of like that about it. Like it seems to signal just the way it looks is sort of ruggedized look, but you can customize what the action button does. So if you just hit the action button from your watch home screen, you can start a workout with it with no countdown, just instantly start a workout, or you can have it fire up your flashlight or we can have it fire up a different app. There's a bunch of different things that I showed in the settings of the hands-on video.
Um, I like that about it. So I think design wise, I think they, they, they took an Apple watch further towards durability instead of taking a Garmin and pulling it towards Apple watch. I think that's the right sense. I think it's the right move also. Yeah. Um, they, and they did have stuff like you can do waypoint tracking with that action button. You can do markers if you're doing, um, running. And I also do believe it had similar of the like
satellite GPS stuff. So if you do get lost, you can use it to contact emergency services, which is awesome. Another thing we will not be testing. I don't think so. Only Adam needs to test this. We'll just throw Adam in the woods, I guess. Because they talked to people hiking mountains and they were like, you ever needed...
to like track your waypoints in case you're in complete whiteout conditions and need to find base camp and you can't see. - There is benefit of waypoint tracking. I have used it on other watches before, not 'cause I've gotten lost, but sometimes when there's a lot of trail heads and if trail heads are really sharp with a lot of brush and stuff like that, you can very easily just like walk straight past it
wonder why you're not hitting the trailhead that you mean to hit. And then I've looked back, seen that I've gone past the waypoint and then realized I should double back instead of keep walking miles away from where I need to be. - Yeah, so you hit the action button to mark your waypoint. - Exactly. - And then you'll be able to come back to it whenever.
But yeah, I guess what we've learned from this is Adam's going to do an Ironman. He's going to hike a mountain. He's going to do a desert run in extreme heat just because it can go up to 130 degrees Fahrenheit. We got to, of course, make sure that's true about it. And all the other features will, of course, be pushing to the limits with our incredible podcast. I think Adam needs a raise, maybe. I think it's a good watch. I think it's a good watch. It's not for everyone. It's the Ultra, and that's why it's called the Ultra, but it is a good watch. I like it, and I want to try it really bad. I also want to see if I...
if it will get messed up climbing because I have like a perfect score of destroying watches. It's titanium, which should be okay. And the Sapphire. Oh, are you already scratching the glass? I think it's the same glass. It's just flat instead of clear. It has like a little bit of a lip though that it might be able to protect you from. We'll see. Okay. I'll try it. We'll see. All right. Well, let's take a quick break and come back and talk iPhone 14.
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All right, welcome back. This is, I guess we sort of went in ramping up order as to the most important, most common things you will see on the street after this, which is the big thing that we all knew was coming at the September Apple event, the iPhone 14 series. So it's a new lineup this time. It is iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 plus iPhone 14 Pro and iPhone 14 Pro Max, which means no more new mini iPhone, although...
It's still being sold on Apple site for $550. Just a thought. Still there. Noted. Is it 550? It's five something. Anyway. It's a very different lineup. This is not a lineup we're used to here. And I think like while there maybe aren't as many changes on the 14 and 14 plus, besides it being a completely new product, um, uh,
It's really interesting to see where Apple might be going, which is how they do these launches in the future and how they're doing stuff. Because jumping right into this, the first thing we saw is the A15 Bionic and the 14, which is the same chip. Yeah. Okay. So the iPhone 14 and 14 Plus have the same A15 Bionic from last year.
They have the same screen sizes, 6.1 inch and 6.7 inch as the larger ones from last year. And they have basically the same displays, slightly higher peak brightness. They're in the same design. They're going to look basically the same. They have one new chalky blue color. If you can see my shirt right now, if you're watching the video version, it's kind of like that, or you can watch the hands-on video. But it's going to look mostly the same. Okay.
But the improvements are, there's three main changes I want to go over. One, connectivity. There is no more physical SIM card tray on US iPhone 14s. Only eSIM. Mm-hmm.
Which to me was interesting. eSIM's fine. eSIM works really well, especially when like upgrading between phones with eSIM or even swapping between carriers. But I wonder if that acts kind of like a little wall in the ecosystem. If I wanted to move from an iPhone to a different phone, most new phones support eSIM, but to a different phone that I'm going to be thinking about that. That's interesting. But eSIM is there. Then there is a SOS connectivity through satellite. Okay.
Which was cool to see. So this is another edge case that you'll hopefully never need. But theoretically, you're in an area with no... It's actually really cool. You're in an area with no cellular connectivity. You're usually a few miles or so from a cell tower. You don't see anyone near you. There's no cell towers, but you still need to send a message. It will be able to talk to the frequencies of satellites overhead...
Typically to do that, you'd need a larger radio or something bigger. You've seen a Starlink dish. With like an extended antenna. With a big antenna. You need a clear, unobstructed view of the sky. And ideally, you're actually pointing it at a satellite. All of this is a lot.
With the iPhone, there's actually UI on the iPhone 14 to help you point at a satellite. So if you have an unobstructed view of the sky, it'll assist you to point at a satellite and actually get a message sent, ideally within 30 to 60 seconds, maybe more. It's also shrinking the size of your message with the proprietary format. It's doing a lot.
But you can still send that message with no cell connectivity. And I think there were two really cool things that I liked about that and just like problems they had to solve to make sure that works. One is that...
just in case you are, basically if you are sending something that is text, you're usually sending text things through there. If it is at an emergency services that can accept text messages, it'll do that. If not, they have relay centers set up that will incorporate the text message you send, relay it to a place through a phone call, which is really important and pretty awesome. And then also, they basically have like an FAQ that will come up 'cause they know that those text messages take a little to send and rather than having to ask a bunch of questions,
You can input what kind of distress you are in, answer a bunch of questions, and it can send it in one. So whoever you're sending it to only needs that one message. So one of those features you hope you never need. Exactly. But it is pretty cool, and it is added for iPhone 14. So that's connectivity. One thing about that, though, they also said...
free for two years. Oh yeah. Which I was a little confused about. I don't know if it will be a paid app later. One, I'm assuming it's only on 14 and future phones. Um, yeah, I don't know in terms of if it's a subscription service or anything after that.
They kind of skipped over that pretty quickly. Yeah, I have a feeling they're still figuring that out. So it'll be for two years. It's also launching in November in the U.S. and Canada only to start. Okay. From there, we'll just stay tuned because not sure yet. Yeah, in terms of being acceptable in other places other than the U.S. and Canada, it's obviously like way more than just a phone. It's like with all these relays and different ways they have to contact emergency services, there's so much logistics that they have to do. So it makes sense it's going to take a while to roll out for everyone else. Yeah.
But really the biggest upgrade I think with this is gonna be the cameras. There is a new camera system and it is a larger 12 megapixel rear facing camera, larger sensor, larger, wider max aperture. And there also is a new 12 megapixel selfie camera with autofocus. To me, and there's also sensor shift image stabilization in the main camera. To me, this is basically an iPhone 13 Pro
minus the third camera, and then dressed up in aluminum and minus ProMotion. So they just take the same chip, the better cameras, all that stuff, which is a really good phone, and one year later, they can ship it in this lower price point in this aluminum body, and it's a perfectly reasonable phone for most people. So it's gonna be very familiar. Same notch, same design, like we all said. That's all fine. So that's 14 and 14 Plus. The benefit...
As much as I wish it had 120 hertz, the benefit of having a bigger iPhone with the A15 Bionic and a 1080p 60 hertz screen is they're saying it'll have the longest battery life ever in an iPhone. It will definitely... I have no doubts it will be the battery champ going forward. I mean, you already have the iPhone as one of the idle battery champs, and then you just make it bigger and have more in it. I also really...
I thought it was kind of funny and kind of appreciated it, but mostly thought it was funny how long they took to show us what a bigger screen means and how you can see more things on a bigger screen. Yeah. And it's just like, you can see more text messages. You can see more in your album. It's like,
We know. You can see more stuff. Yeah, you can see more stuff. It's bigger. Yeah, well, if there's anything I know about people and screens, it's they like the bigger one if they can pick between the two. It seems to be, yeah. So I think that's going to be a hit low-key. So $799 in September for the iPhone 14, $899 in October for the 14 Plus.
Then we got the Pros. Okay, the Pros have a little bit more going on that are visually distinct from last year's Pros. And not just visually, it's got a new chip inside. It's the A16 this year on a four nanometer process, which is pretty cool. There is also a new purple color. Did you like the purple color? I really thought it was green. I'm just mad it wasn't green. We got all these green badges and we saw a lot of green hints and then we got a purple phone, yeah. A little sad, especially because we call it green, but... I actually think the space gray...
Looks different from last year. It's darker. The rings around the cameras are darker. That looks really good. And the whole thing is like this dark, sleek... It's almost like shale gray. I like the new Space Gray. It's way better. I like it. I'm going to probably go for that one. But really... No one's surprised that you are? Yeah. Well, here I am. Same two sizes, 6.1 inches and 6.7 inches, but obviously the new higher-end Pro displays, which are a little bit brighter as well this year, peak 2000 nits outdoor brightness. That's, I think...
If I'm understanding this correctly, since nits are logarithmic and they said it's twice as bright as last year, that should be a noticeable difference in brightness outside. We'll see. Yeah, I guess it should be better. But I think the main difference here is the new camera system and the new pill cutout that has a name. What should we talk about first?
- Dynamic Island. - Dynamic Island, all right, welcome to Dynamic Island. - We're calling it the Dynamic Island. - The iPhone 14 Pros, instead of having a normal static peninsula at the top, have a new pill cutout for the cameras and the face ID system, and they actually moved the proximity sensor underneath the display. So now it'll look like a little oval at the top of the screen.
Now, when I first saw this, because there were rumors about it, we were kind of expecting something like this. Yeah. I was like, that's fine. It's a whole punch. We've seen it before. Like, I've seen this. It looks a little different. Neat. But...
The name Dynamic Island is actually associated with a bunch of features that they added. Which is interesting because when they first announced it, there was like a pretty solid giggle across the audience. Oh, 100%. Of like... 100%. What is that? They put Dynamic Island in huge text on the screen and everyone around me went, what? That's the name? But, okay, so here's what they're doing. There's a bunch... This actually became my favorite feature of the film. I know. There's all these little animations that extend...
around this pill. So the pill sort of morphs and shapes. So just the cutout by itself is dead pixels, right? That's not pixels on the screen. It's cutting out around the cameras, but because it's an OLED, you can just shut down pixels around it. And so they built all these animations around it, where if you have an ongoing activity, a live activity, notifications, ongoing tasks, some things that are happening at the top, they can show you those things and
In like animations around the pill. Yeah, I think a perfect example is pretty much any audio. So music or podcasts, it basically will show one side of the pill. The pill will extend in this really, really smooth animation. Yep. One side will have like podcast cover art. Like we had the waveform podcast up on it. So the left showed our cover art. The right just showed a little waveform that's showing that something's playing. It's such a small thing. It's just a nice little playful UI touch that like,
If any other phone company did this, we would have been all over it like, oh, that's smart. It's annoying how good it looks. It's like, why didn't anyone think of this before? Yeah, it's the epitome of Apple. It's like hole punch cutouts have been around forever at this point. Apple does it later and they just absolutely knock it out of the park. The closest thing we got is...
wallpapers, I think. Like, remember how viral all of these, you know, hole punch wallpapers went? For like the past four years of hole punch phones we've had, we've had these cool wallpaper apps which would put like an eye around like the pill cutout or the hole punch or whatever. Like, oh, those are, it's kind of cool that you can like set up your home screen around it.
Well, now, yeah, the active UI will move around this dynamic island. I'm going to stop calling it that because it's just too much. Yeah, this podcast will be the last time I call it dynamic island, I think. But it is a really cool cutout. It's a really good UI. I think regular people are going to love that. I think it's going to be one of those things where you're like...
The people out there who don't like Apple are going to be like, it's so stupid. Stop saying this is cool. And then you see it and it helps you quick switch between apps. I mean, we sat there just messing with it for probably like 20 minutes. It is actually kind of low key a task switcher for certain things. So I mentioned live activities before. You can have things going on that just stay persistent up there. If I have a timer, for example, and music playing,
All I have to do to bring up the music because it's playing in the background is just tap on that little extended part of the island. I just tap it and it brings it up. And while it comes up, it still shows the other half, which is the timer. And if I ever want to go on the timer, I just tap that. So instead of having to swipe down and go into the timer, which is fine, it's just two clicks instead of one. It's just a one-click quick switch thing now.
It's a multitasking UI. You also can hold it and get quick commands through that. If you're doing audio, you can hold it. It'll bring up a small box towards the top of the screen in a beautiful animation again, and you can skip through songs. You can use the 15-second skip, play, pause, all those pretty easy things. I think it literally just pops up the lock screen widget without the lock screen. Pretty much, yeah, on the top. Yeah. So anyway, I'm going to be playing with that a lot, but that's pretty cool. That's the dynamic...
There it is. I said it. Okay. But the other thing is the new cameras. And I am very interested in testing these because these are theoretically now the best cameras ever in an iPhone. I've been shooting autofocus videos on the iPhone. I want to check out the new sensor and the new stuff here. But
But we got three new cameras here and they're all bigger than the iPhone 13 Pro. I hold them up next to each other. Oh, like physically bigger, like on the phone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They extend further out the back and they, like you can look at it and tell they're all three bigger sensors, which is cool. The 48 megapixel main sensor, first megapixel bump in an iPhone in like a decade. I think I tweeted actually the last time they bumped up. It went from eight to 12 megapixels a long time ago. And we've had 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12 every year.
48 megapixel main sensor. It will bin and spit out normal 12 megapixel photos, but obviously with a lot of detail. But yes, you can shoot 48 megapixel photos in ProRAW. So if that's the question, is there a high res mode? Yes, you switch to ProRAW, you'll get 48 megapixel shots, which is sweet.
And then there is a new larger ultra-wide and an improved telephoto as well. All this stuff I definitely want to test. They say the new larger sensor ultra-wide is three times better in low light. Takes better macros. Yeah, and I think the other two are two times better in low light. A lot of 2Xs. Theme of the event. I don't know what that means. I don't either. Two times better in low light. What is two? Two what? I don't know. Don't question it. It's better. We'll see. We'll find out. Overall...
Wait, wait, one thing I'm really excited about though, and which you mentioned shooting autofocus now is the action mode, I believe it was called, which was like the crazy stabilization in VFX.
That's going to be good to try. I can't wait to try that. And the amount of people I saw on the event floor, like Joanna Stern and Judner were just like jumping up and down trying it. We did not get a shot of that, but I can't wait to test it. I have a feeling it works best in certain situations. Because again, there's new sensors in the eye. There's a new improved gyroscope and accelerometer. I believe it takes advantage of those.
but the shot that they used to demo was like a follow shot. So you're like running forward and there's a bunch of axes of stabilization needed to run forward and stabilize your motion. I think it's going to be shots like that that see the best improvement. Um, maybe if you imagine sort of the rig that we have on the back of the truck to like shoot car stuff, all of that micro compressed into an iPhone camera, hopefully you can kind of see that sort of before and after. Yeah. We'll check it out. Um,
No astrophotography feature. I was very surprised by that. We all kind of thought that was going to be the event thing. I guess that's just what the stars look like, two times increased low light. If you did a prop bet on, like, will there be an astrophotography mode, I would have lost a lot of money on that. I would have guaranteed a special mode for that. So Far Out. So Far Out. What does that mean now? Far Out was the name of the event. I guess Far Out. No idea. Yeah.
Far out. If you're far out enough from cell service, you can use... There you go. You can get picked up as long as you're within the two free years of satellite services. Yeah, satellite connectivity. That's far out. That makes sense. Okay, fair. The redesigned Flash was low-key kind of amazing unless it's not actually going to be able to notice it. Okay, they showed an animation.
and I watched the animation and it looked really cool. And then I thought again about how small the flash is and how unlikely I am to ever notice a difference, but there's different flash patterns with the nine LEDs built into the flash of the phone. So if it recognizes that you're taking a macro with the ultra wide, it'll use less of them and be less harsh.
Maybe. I don't know. I think it'll be nice for all of our parents and older generation who don't turn the flash off rather than try and teach them to not use the flash. Maybe it'll just be less annoying. But like how many times have we seen like a ring light on the back of a phone and we're like, holy smokes, that's way different. And that just looks like a normal flash. Yeah. So I'm, I'm skeptical, but you know, that's something else they mentioned on stage.
But yeah, that's the new phone. So the lineup is, remember when we predicted the prices? I think you were spot on. I nailed all of them. So $799 to start for iPhone 14, then $899 for iPhone 14 Plus, $999 for the Pro, $1099 to start for the 14 Pro Max, up to a terabyte again. If I were to pick now, I would pick Space Gray 14 Pro, and I think that would be fine.
And I would get a terabyte because we're shooting a lot of ProRes video now. And my God, does that eat your storage fast. Fast. Yeah, we're sending studio video stuff back from the event from ProRes. And it's probably still uploading to Dropbox right now. 30, 40 gigs, just easy. Drop of a hat. So...
That is the new iPhone lineup. I think that's a pretty good, pretty solid lineup. Again, it doesn't, it's, there's not a lot of like huge design innovation happening. It's a, it's looks the same as last year. Most of the phone is very recognizable, especially the base 14. Nothing's folding in half. Nothing is like changing materials in any drastic way. Like these are,
These are iPhones. You know what you're getting with them. Yeah. But these little refinement details, especially, and it sounds so dumb when I'm not using it, but like try the dynamic Island, look at it, use it for a little bit. And you're like, wow, this is really thought out well thought out. And I wish every phone had something like this and maybe someday they will. Who's going to copy that first? Samsung. Yeah.
Yeah. Easy. Okay. That was easy. Sneaky iPhone 13 still in the lineup, I felt is worth mentioning. You can still buy a 13 or a 13 mini for, I think it's like the $500, $550 range. Okay. So that's worth noting. Obviously, it's still going to be a 60 Hertz phone, but like when you spend seven, eight, 900 bucks, you want the latest and greatest, you probably just jump to the Pro.
But that's the lineup. There it is. That's about it. I just have to say, I've constantly found myself looking at these monitors at how cool we look on this stage. It looks pretty good. I want to again say we appreciate being able to use this set. This is a fun way to just dump my thoughts out in a quick way. Right off of it, yeah. Yeah. Do we want to do trivia? Do we want to attempt it? Do you have the files? So what I understand is they sent us...
video files yeah i'm nervous of what this is if you have them already 10 seconds it's i already opened it and it's l is playing ping pong so um okay do you want to attempt maybe uh take one earphone off a little bit so you can hear this yeah i got transparency let's just go we only have a few minutes left here let's um let's just answer first one to answer it or we both just give up pretty quick because we gotta wrap this up pretty soon let's try it let's attempt this let's hear it
Oh, that was the answer.
I played the answer instead of the question. I knew that was going to happen. I knew I was going to do that. The only thing that could go wrong here is if we just played the answer first instead of the question. Okay, cool. We're just going to do the second trivia question then because I completely messed that up. That's hilarious. I think I'll get a negative point on our running score. That was really embarrassing and there's way too many people watching this happening right now. Were the files labeled? I literally clicked trivia answers, but there's a lot going on right now, so I messed that up. Okay, cool. New question. This is starting with David at his computer looking at Craig.
looking at the MacBook Air. - Perfect. - The Apple A16 Bionic and the new iPhone 14 Pro includes almost 16 billion transistors, but what was the component that the transistor replaced? - The transistor.
okay i'm still so embarrassed i played the answer so i don't know what the answer this is uh this is one of those things where like if you know a lot of computer history you probably already have answered this out loud and you're probably driving your car right now yelling it to yourself wondering why we don't we don't know the answer um do you have any idea no i'm thinking it's just a tube can we ask the audience
audience does anyone know the answer we've got for those of you who don't know there are people in the dark like in the on the outsides of this who are actually helping us with this camera work does anybody know the answer to this question i guarantee somebody knows it vacuum tube is a vacuum tube it's a tube i was right let's see the uh let me click the answers let's hear the answer i said it's some kind of tube because remember cameras used to be tubes by the way yes okay what's the answer
The component that the transistor replaced was the vacuum tube.
Good job. We're going to need to adjust our scoreboard to have... We have to add... Yeah, we'll have to make sure we know who got that. From the shadows, a vacuum tube was the correct answer. That is incredible. Yes. So the new 4nm chip has... Is it now 16 billion transistors? I can't even visualize that. But here we are in 2022 with billions and billions of transistors instead of vacuum tubes. Very nice. I like that. Well...
Well, I think that's about it for this episode. I think that's a wrap, yeah. This has been a fun one. I'm gonna close my laptop. Thank you for everyone for watching this episode and for watching the clips or for subscribing to the channel. Of course, you're here for our hands-on impressions. So go ahead and watch those videos as well on the main channels.
that's been it i think uh when you see us next week we'll be in a different place again we will we'll be at another apple they're actually going to build a new set for us for sure with a different background they're actually gonna make this screen look like our old background and then rip it and then craig burst through it yeah okay it's too easy all right well anyway catch you guys next week see you later peace
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