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What is up, people of the internet? Welcome back to another packed episode of the way from podcast where your host W W S K Y, you've seen the announcements, you've gotten plenty of coverage and we're here to break IT all down in our are true and honest way by diving directly into the weeds is how we to do things here.

Uh, so actually first also we upload on an event recap video, so only have fifteen minutes and you want to watch a recap, that video exists. We also interviewed tim cook and that video was also on the main channel. And I was suggest, I was suggest watching that too.

But here's the thing about those interview. I just wanted, I just want to mini rent for a second. Do .

so. That's a powerful sound.

that great news, powerful sound word that I love, our new clips on the sword. Uh, those are fun. But I I always find them interesting because they always minimize how much time you have to do them, which OK.

Of course, tim cooks a busy person. They did some interviews with some other executives are also busy people. I get that try like crowd into a small meantime, but they are so short that you are basically unable to actually ask follow up questions. You to come to someone like an exact like tim cook is also pretty good at not answering questions like very like he'll say things that he wanted you to hear but yeah, if he has one answered you they .

told the sweet at ten minutes.

I told me at ten minutes I went.

We did seventeen way over time. We did .

seventeen and was still unable to like follow up on most things like, I think the the perfect example of this was like two thirds were almost almost near the end of the video. Talk about the magic mouse briefly. Like I brought the magic mouse and had tim talk about the magic mouse like sixty seconds.

And I so badly wanted to be like, can we dive? This is a hole here that we could just dive into right now. And I would be really entertained about the develop.

Yeah, but there is just no time. So I if apple, if you're listing apple's team who conducts these, we would love more time. That's all. I think .

they know that. I think .

yeah I think so it's purse.

And I think they they even would like to if they can like try to trim and like direct interviews to only be about wwdc, then I just P R. Obviously, they're going to give as many positive videos out there about their thing is possible.

But I think what you'll find is there are people who are very excited to talk to tim cook about a variety of things, and they don't get to talk about those things and just it's kind of feels like almost a waste of time. So would be really nice if there is more time. Yes, that might take definitely anyway.

Okay, let's dive into the new software and hardware. There's a whole lot to get into. Where do we where do we start well as you yeah so .

the way that i'm laying out this podcast for a listeners is because IOS, which also sort of applies to ipad O S is so thick and then also the AI or apple intelligence section is also quite thick uh the way that we usually do this forecasts is section trivia, section trivia, section answers for answers. So the way we're going to do IT is everything that's not iphone and ipad. Then I found an ipad, then AI.

okay. So we're just going to go through like all of the other apple products that are not I an ipad at the beginning, which to be fair, some of them got some pretty nice updates. There are some cool things, yes, nice updates here.

So we're not going in order like we Normally do because there's so much stuff there.

there so much OK. So in non IOS and iphone news, vision O S, visions O S, that's a fairly non iphone thing. Yeah, there's some good stuff here.

Yeah, it's a two point o update. That's what I was thinking. I'm not sure I find enough things here to be.

Two cares is only six months. Skirt, let's go. Two point after .

was announced year ago, IT released six months, three point over for Christmas. We're on that pace though. IT IT does feel like vision. S the update of the things that you should have done in the beginning aren't?

Yes, yes, you should have had this already.

But like to your point.

yeah like when you ship your products, sometimes you might just not realize a lot of things. So if they were still working on IT.

but they wanted to launch, then there was a couple of things that right when IT launching, they could have probably rushed out but still were working on.

Yeah here they are right. A vision s two. Uh, we got a lot of updates. The biggest ones are mostly in photos. Honestly, I think this is the one that people have been reacting to the most.

Um so a big part of vision pro that apple is starting to push out over time is the abilities that share content with other people via share play via your ghost personal thing, which is called your digital persons also like that. Yeah your persona is not avatar. What is a gita persona? OK.

So in photos, you can now share photos with other people, so you can be in different places at the same time looking at a photo library, which is very cool. But the cool thing about the photo library is the introducing update that allows, uh, machine learning to identify the subjects in a photo and turn them into a depth photo, even if there are a standard two d photo. And this works with pretty much any photo in your library as long as you can identify some sort of subject queen from snappy labs tested IT and said that he tested on sixty old photos. They had only one of them messed up a little bit, and that otherwise, he said that it's pretty much Better at separating the subject from the background than actually taking a special photo on your iphone is, which is very funny, because apple spent a lot of time making sure that the cameras were perfectly aligned on the iphone, and that going forward from now on, all of the iphone have to have these perfect parallax cameras.

And isn't IT only certain iphone that are able to shoot .

space al video and the resolution of a special video is different. And yeah the space. So the reason that the iphone fifteen didn't have the diagonal cameras and they aligned them is because they wanted them to be able .

to do special ah yeah it's almost like the greatest iphone ever made also has cameras .

in a line oh but can you especially but because .

they're probably not the right .

distance apart and three or five.

what can I do with my s four ultra? Just wondering .

that that is .

an interesting though you can take any photos and .

run them through this so you drop if you text yourself a photo from the four ultra and run through this machine learning IT will make IT a special photo call and you can look at your vision prove yeah which I .

think is super cool um obviously you can do this for video yet. However, I have heard things from developers that have said they have seen some stuff where they were actually separating out video into a three special video in real time. So that's not something official from apple.

but something import like the hydrogen screen.

I'm about a hy. Yeah, yeah. So that's not I like that. I think that cool. I think my favor future from vision s is the mac display getting with more resolution? yes.

So if you guys remember the vision pro review, one of the things that they do in the vision pro is fulvia rendering. All that really means is what you look at a sharp and rendered in high resolution. And what you're not looking at because of tracking your eyes doesn't have to be rendered in as higher a resolution.

But when you loaded up a mac virtual display, you could see in the screen record dings, IT, rendered the whole thing and full resolution all the time. So they're adding that for via rendering that is happening on the mac to the virtual displays. Now I can give you an even larger canvas with more because it's not rendering at all at once. So you can go like ultrawise A K yeah .

they did this call animation the KO where IT like came out a little bit. They're like you can do an you can do really authorize and extended even more, which is cool. Um I would prefer that if you could just have multiple windows altogether because that's how I like to segment out my screen. Um but you know i'm sure that they're like, what's the difference?

So the new macos, which will get you later, has window snapping. So and i'm once how the window .

snapping works if you're extending with fishing pro on an ultra wide.

yeah like where .

does that go?

But you can still use an ultra wide as a monitor and you would have that right going to as an old.

I guess. So but then the windows would just be individually really long, and you can only snap two .

outside outside the right. So you saying you could have IT .

like also wide. I want them to be not super long individually, but I won't. Five of them, you know. So anyway will get get to the window snapping stuff later. Um travel mode now works on trains, which is funny that they didn't have before IT like only worked on planes for some reason.

which is I thought I was ridiculous, I can feel really didn't work on anything. And that is dis place.

A A big change that they made was quick access to the control panel with a new hand gestures. So if you use division brew before, I was very, very annoying to access the control panel because IT was sort of like you to look up with your eyes, but everyone thought you .

to look up with your head. I when I first had IT like IT, doesn't explain exactly to do that. So I coping like all the way up, looking at the ceiling, and then I would get IT. And then one day I just popped up when I looked up and was like, unity yeah and doing this the whole time.

right? So you can do a hand gesture that makes us a lot easier ah and possibly the biggest update now you can see your magic keyboard in an environment and you can .

see see a mouse.

right? Yes, you can use any mouse, but you have to use the magic keyword, which is annoying.

what. Yeah, every keyboard is at least a quality layout. You can definitely I know there's keyboards and like some of so you can definitely map the quality part of the keyboard.

I do think that the semantic segmentation of just knowing that you're looking at a keyboard is gonna be good enough and you shouldn't have to be like I am identifying specifically a magic keyboard.

yes. But I think the question is is is rendering the I is .

just a cut out. So the same way when you hide your hands in front of your face, you can see your hands. That's not a render of hands lita cut out kyard the .

keyboard is a rector IT doesn't IT it's .

quit Better if they can do that with the mouse keyboard. Any mouse, i'm just ying. They're not mapping something over over the mouse exactly, so could not map over the keyboard.

Wouldn't the cut outs need to be mapped in three days face? Like even if they're not wrapping a texture around IT? Like wouldn't they still need three d data to cut out your hands to begin with?

sure. Yeah, but you know how. In the beginning of the vision processor process, you do like a handstand like this.

Yeah, you flip your hands over. Just add a step. Where do you have a keyboard? sure. Hold IT up. Now you've .

got a keyboard is final. So it's so easy eystein they specific keyboard.

yes, but the metal ecosystem also maps a animated version of your hands to your hands IT literally .

overs IT with an united version. I think of the options.

But if you have one of the supported keyboards, like the logitech M X.

Master series is cartoon one yeah that your cartoon like Price fire.

I don't want to try that. No IT probably doesn't work as well.

but I want yeah, really doesn't. Yes, I am saying is, if you can use any miles of which there are many, you easily map yd. But okay, yes, yeah, vision s most of the big stuff for vision's.

five minutes on the mouse and keyboard situation.

You can arrange icons on the screen. Now just want to throw that out small detail.

But yeah, IT exists. Another thing that's like, how is that not a thing? But yeah, alright, okay, a watch. O, S, eleven. Now there's a new watch coming out in october.

Say 是 that the apple watch serious x is coming out in october， which is supposed be a new design. And last year, they did a huge change on the O S. Design of waterless ten.

And so because of that, we weren't really expecting a lot of new things in much of us. Eleven of what we didn't really get much. We basically got two new apps. There is now an APP called vitals, which is basically trying to be the government .

body battery feature .

or like the of the of the yeah .

a lot of a lot of fit bans have had this. But a big reason.

people of sector garments for a long time is because the battery, the body battery feature. And if that effectively what this is when you're sleeping, IT tracks a bunch of your specific data in your body. And then if you wear the watcher of the course of a number of days, IT can sort of map trends. And then you can use that information to be like, oh, you're more tired today than you're usually are because your heart rate is higher when you have to sleep in all the stuff. And IT kind of tells you that you have the energy to work out today harder than you use to work out on a different day.

Sound like that in you like exercise data. So like if you push uh like exercise load to hard one day, it's going to take the next day public rest or yeah recover.

Yeah yeah. I just want to say if you're skeptical about any of this, go watch your doctor, my episode.

yeah.

But that's basically the same thing. Is this where IT tracks your sleep start IT tracks your vital throughout your sleep. And then over the course of a period of time, IT shows you any irregularities in certain days. And I will suggest, oh, these metrics are at this point. And the reason for that is very often tied to the fact that may be you're drinking alcohol or maybe that you're working out too late in the night.

The same thing that I sleep those yeah time notification the morning like your your heart rate dropped later than usual yeah this could .

be because .

of five different day. I want .

to try all five and ad work out to bed cohl, consume cafe and be really stressed and then just like trying go you .

are clinically yeah um so all these outliers and then they have this training load APP as well that works with IT that is also kind of the bottoms y and IT tells you how hard at things you worked out and you do at work out. So if you're exercising, it's like, oh, you put in a five today but you probably could have pushed IT a .

little harder IT felt like a nine apple.

So they do have a setting where you can change how hard to actually was in that way, you will learn over time like how hard you're working. You can. And you know this information, i've never really found the useful, and I might get you that in the comments for this.

But like you is interesting .

to see things about your body, but i'm not going to like significantly change my lifestyle based .

watch formation think of for over year and I found that there are days where my body battery would tell me i'm like doing great, like i'm going climbing after work. And he says, I have a ton of body baty left and I kill IT and then have days where it's really low, even though I got plenty of sleep in everything. And I feel like IT gets in my own head that can litter I onst so much of that is mental. And I just kind of wish government .

just liked me, right? Like you have so much energy. Look.

at least .

also of the leap in every morning I I look at IT and i'm like, how much does IT map to how I actually feel? So if I feel great in the morning, i'm like, I bet I got over and ninety and it's like ninety five you slept amazingly like, yeah, is. But what am I going to do with that information?

What is the point .

of information week? I lew.

I was how you feeling today.

I don't P, I didn't look IT up here.

I have IT learned how to express my own emotions. Um yeah okay. So besides that, you can now pause certain days on your ring stakes, which when they announce in the kino everyone was like.

yeah, you know that you can take a rest day and off day and then pick up your streak right burg, where you left off yeah, kay, that sentence, pick up your street. Gree left off. I don't think that means what you think.

but OK, I do get IT. I think that for people that like are going on a trip and they're flying for fourteen hours .

and literally are not going to have time, thank thank.

It's one of those things where it's like yet. There are there are days where you can do it's really like pause. You feel really proud of your trip, but at the other time, you street means absolutely A D so go sides today.

I guess it's like if people feel pressured to like not go on vacation because they're so competitive with their friends that they don't want .

to like stuff own that competitiveness and don't go on vacation.

What if the middle ground is is you can post but if you do posit your streak now has an astra next to IT like and that tweet so you have you like up they place and all of your friends yeah yeah OK.

You can now customize the widgets in the fitness APP. So if you like certain metric a lot and you want to look at them first, you can see that fitness plus now has a first u page, because every freaking application, the world has to have a frequent .

for you page at this point isn't the fitness plus APP of four u page?

No, it's not.

No, it's like suggested .

workouts for you.

Yeah is is not for me. Who else is going to be? I think that the only thing that I really does is is like if you just a try to be, like, do another.

But now over a belong period of time, IT will suggest certain runs and stuff that you should do or certain exercise that you should do, which in this scenario, if IT actually worked, is one of the only four u opportunities that I actually support because I think algorithm feeds are terrible, but that's just a personal annoying of mine was just a right a rabbit yes. Ah the smart stack is now smart stack. Smart stack.

Smart stack, you know is .

often the starch stack is now smarter, whatever that means. Basically, there's this little stack on your apple watch of different tiles that shows you different things. And now it's supposed to be more relevant to the things that you are like actively doing or .

what he thinks that you want to look at. So another country, the translate will pop up at the top.

or if it's about the rain and the weather. Pop, I was, yeah, if I have my spar stack, and then, yeah, the weather is about to change. Maybe I do. You need to remember to bring a raincoat and I just look. And no, I was in paying attention of to notice yeah, i'm sure there are some small things in there that that's like the little quality of life thing that is IT as interesting in video and on the stage yeah, you learn to appreciate.

just make that Better yeah yeah uh and then there was also some updates to pregNancy tracking, which was pretty useful. Uh, I cannot evaluate how useful those things are, but they seemed pretty useful. So i'm glad .

to do in hand confirm that also can not what seemed pretty solid yeah. And then one other thing that they mentioned.

sort of briefly, where I started to kind of feeling like, are we making these applications just way too complicated? I feel like every year, they feel like they need to add more to a product that is already so saturated with features that IT starts to get more and more complex because they added a feature that was like checker s, but attached to the certain workouts now. So they showed us a demo where the guy was gonna go on a hike and he's like, i'm about to go on a hike, so i'm going to set IT so that when I finished my hike and I get to a certain location, IT sends a notification to this person in my context .

to let them know .

I got there that I I like.

I agree, uh, the menu that he had to jump through to like or to like turn all of these things on just for the specific ones seemed really complex. And I just don't know if anyone really knows that these features exist.

So if they could do a Better job on the watch of like letting you know, like maybe when you start an exercise for the first time, you start a new exercise, if IT goes, do you wanted let anyone know when you get there? And then I did IT for you. I think that would be great. It's good that these features exist. I'm not saying it's yeah I don't know anyone's gona know that .

IT is thing I thought and I may have missed this. I thought that kind of what I did you on the watch because I was, uh, I had watched this with lane. I was much harder for me to watch this. I'm sure there are things I miss here, but I IT was like, if they went on a nightly run and they were in a competition with someone or something on the smart stack, I would say, like baba finished ed, their run and their homework. Fe, there's something.

I think that's what they just added because I believe I was like the chicken could be that you set IT. So when you get to a certain location in the unification and you got home or you could manually do IT, okay, yeah, but they added IT to sure, they just added a exercises in this version. Yeah, cool. Anyway, that's pretty much. But the watch .

macos S I think it's the background .

of a macs. I think it's my favorite .

background of the I background.

What is the default ackrill? Nice, sorry, audio listeners just going to have to picture a ray why this is like .

four three hundred pixel wise OK.

So it's it's a mix between a ray of sunshine and also the fact they are looking at .

look to IT soop down and looked really cold. I did even see the trees .

until you yeah yeah no.

I think that's IT looks great as a background and is referencing IT really well yeah as .

someone who is from the series when they were like we dove deep into the ceos as a yes and they were like one thousand big trees and I was like, it's going to be going it's going to be Michael and I got excited. Very nice. Um alright. So they brought some features from windows, which is interesting. They brought in built in window tilling.

Yeah, I like, I had to explain this one without saying the word windows all time. So you can drag this frame of an APP into a tile into the corner of your screen. I won't say who windows. Yeah, yeah. You can snap windows.

That is great, which is good. A kills the magnet APP, which is a very popular APP that gives you .

the window tiling feature.

There was a good and of king there, so much looking. So I made a thread of, like, eight different apps that got sure locked here.

I still think the fifth thing you listed, a tim cook to rank, should have been sherlock.

You would know that is, uh, so I kind of hate the whether they implemented this. I got to say, if you go on the apple website, you can see the way they implemented this. But IT leaves padding between the windows that you snap. So there's padding on the right, top, left and bottom.

I think you might be because they obsess the shadows.

I think the reason is so you can see if there is an application behind your computer. And when you click on your desktop, if it's not on a window, then IT spreads only apps out like this. And I think that they just want you to have quick access to that. So if you're using like your entire screen, you can quickly do that because you can't do that unless you have access to looking on your test top. Yeah so it's interesting when we see like my brother ders crashed.

did IT I look?

So it's back, right?

You're on the beta.

yeah. It's interesting when we see a lot of these applications that we're dedicated just get integrated into the OS level. Uh, this happened for years on android, right? IT was like people would make android hacks to make things work and the next I O would be like and now we just put IT in android in general.

And I think this also happened about with uh, jail breaking stuff has made its way to IOS, just like root features, like people would root and have custom on features those made their way. And so yeah yeah, that wasn't get IT eventually.

One of the most exciting things though is something called wireless phone maring, which is really cool. Ah so effectively what this does is IT shows a virtual iphone on your on your display and you can mess with all of the apps on the phone. You can drag and drop files between your computer and your phone is really, really useful. They give a really word example. They are like, if you're in final cut on your laptop and you need to drag and drop files from your found.

I would love that. I could totally.

I guess, can be useful. I means .

basically just air drop. Well, a Better vision.

They said it's using wifi like a combination of wifi direct and but then I should be about as fast as air job.

Yeah I know they wouldn't say it's address, yes, but the way they described IT was exactly the same way they describe IT. A yes, yeah. Take that for what is work, right? yes.

Now the benefit of this is that you couldn't leave your phone on standby mode, which is really awesome because I hate you know, being on my computer and then be like, oh, that files on my phone and have to get my phone and the air drop into my computer. And if you can just like keep your phone charging throughout the day and do everything on your computer with a little many version of your phone on the side, that's pretty cool.

Windows in android has had this for a while, but IT has always been really lagging and really not secure in the connection. H IT always drops, which is annoying so far. I got some updates. Uh, I can now IT basically has some AI features that will highlight things on the page for you. Um yeah there's a feature called highlights that you can click, will sort of give you insights about things on the page and then direct you to different things that you can do with that information.

Do you think this will actually make people use safari?

I think a lot of people use safari .

on their phone. But I mean, like i'm .

just .

up and a what's you're .

literally .

on the fire right now.

you poor soul. I think a lot of people outside are bubble so far. This is the default.

I really I think everyone opens up. So owl loads.

Chrome does have a huge .

market talking about.

I so .

body is very .

good, I .

think is I think .

I iphone .

yeah so .

sorry.

I will say on the mac is the best battery efficiency and is the fastest ah so if you are going to be using like when I had a my laptop out for a technology mi note, I had arc and I was the only thing I had open and I had forty percent battery left on the snack bar. O that should last me long time. I was I was cooking through battery, just having chrome .

like that because it's actually doing things safer.

just sets there. No, if I if I do the same stuff and safari takes dramatically.

No, I know because it's .

a useless well.

I was only taking notes and drive, so that's all I needed. But know so .

how I does use away less battery? yeah.

And crime, crime is like this evil dragon that lives in a cave and just sits on this giant pile of gram. If you walk and to try to get any of IT back goes right?

yeah. But anyway, this features called highlights, you click IT, it'll like tell you things about the page. It'll tell you like a summary of the page if you are on the example they gave or they were on a hotel website that they were thinking about staying at.

And they click the highlights, the future. And I was like, you want to navigate here, which is weird, do in your laptop? Me know because who uses the the maps APP .

on the laptop out on the yeah so yeah .

suppose you can. This highlight feature in the browser is supposed to can textual surface interesting and useful things to you, so if there is an address or something, then you hit highlight, it'll bring up that map thing. If there is a video, then I will bring up a full screen, uninterrupted video player with video controls.

Yes, if the video on the website, if there is, I don't know a phone number can surface that if there is an article, it'll summarize your article for you. So it's got a nice sweet of things. And I asked them if, what if there is like two or three of those things on a website? And they said, oh, just surface all of IT for you.

So seems pretty cool. Yeah, i'm excited with that. Yeah useful. yeah.

And last kind of major thing, there is a new presenter view for when you're on video calls that kind of allows you to show different things on your screen a little bit easier and a more flayed layout. And now they also have built in backgrounds for video conversion apps because we obviously need more of those. Yeah yeah and IT works in face time and the me right now, uh, so that's pretty much magliano a not a huge number of things, but I think the iphone wireless maring is probably ly the most exciting thing.

Yeah, we'll get to that later.

Can I do T V O S in .

ten seconds? And then my favorite about IT, okay, call, they added, enhances dialogue feature, which like a million other sambas have already they added being able to see the actors and actresses on screen which he means on prime has already and they added twenty one nine support for projectors um but they added snows and I want to take bets on what we think gets snoopy at the dog next year because we got IT on the watch last year. We got T V O S this year. What gets snoopy and twenty iphone?

It's the mac, the mac yeah macos snows i'm guessing .

visioned snoopy interactive environment environment that .

be I just right now that's .

something else that I T.

S that that I found when I was .

looking through the website today is that if you're watching A T V show and someone in the TV shows says something in a different language, IT will automatically threw subtitles on IT only if it's in the different language and does not to have some titles. IT is pretty cool.

Yeah I mean, it's it's a little .

weird and sometimes I think that you're supposed to not yeah, really there are a lot of things in here where apple is like i'm to allow you to like have this information or we're onna change the way that you're consuming this media even if the director didn't necessarily want IT to be that way like that enhanced diar the director we're the director now um yeah IT will also automatically show subtitles IT when you mute the TV which is .

kind oh yeah so you .

can keep watching if like someone else I .

can one of them was if you meal or if you scrub back because you think you miss something that automatically take for the couple second step assuming IT you think you didn't catch .

this yeah just help catch you up. So that's pretty cool. That is basically T V O S H. And the last thing before we get to that break is airports. They they got a very minor update. You can now answer calls by nodding your head or reject calls by put waving your head back .

and check shaking, shaking.

And also there is now smart audio noise canceling for calls, which is good because the air pod s mikes have traditionally not been amazing.

I just assumed had that already.

I also did.

I swear, saw a lot of phones.

and phones apps have this already, but I was building into airport maybe can be Better because of the mix that are in IT. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway.

that most of the non meat wasn't .

to the whole vegetables.

you might say.

wasn't there a whole thing a while to go, where there out of farmers market is ms intellect apple create? And they can hear them Better on the airports because was that on the phone?

It's very possible that they already had some sort of noise. Can't like sound voice isolation. And then now they just have like ultra advanced .

voice isolation.

I don't yes, that's what I thought, but I don't know and a certain tech company would ever respond to my emails that questions.

So you know, alright, so would that I think we should go to the trivial question and then will come on back.

Were .

you paying attention? That's right back. b. Another, were you paying attention? Were you paying attention? And the opening cinematic of this year's while mark is like locking and he's so ready opening systematic wwdc twenty twenty four, everyone's jump in out of a plane. Remember who was piloting the plane?

remember?

Yes, yes.

Do we need to say they are full name? I can also tell you, actually.

I think I know now I will accept just their first. Kay.

would you like to know what the name of the O S. On the first parachute was because I remember that too.

really?

yes.

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Now we're going to go over all the things that are iphone I O S, but not apple intelligence, right? Okay, I think this is there's a kind of a design of stuff here, not necessarily like a giant update. But again, it's it's it's eighteen years of I O S, right?

We've got a very mature breathily stable O S, so they don't have to change too much. And oh oh, they just ruin their home screens, mind. I take IT all back. If everyone home screen they ve ve render, they I OK made is a bit of a hot take OK way. Yes.

because there are basically two .

opinions on this. One new feature, this new feature on I O S eighteen. The biggest new feature is you can now put icons where everyone on screen. And there's a nice little theme engine, little tent engine, where you can change the color of any slash, all of your apps to be the same color with a tent. So if you want everything to be yellow or everything to be blue, you can do that too.

I want to say, I came into the office, you guys were here and I media was like, I thought that was really cool because I ve always said that I I was lost .

my first reaction.

I really hate, I love on my android that that my home pages is clear. And I said, that's one a huge reason I want to switch the phone. So i'm seeing this and the changing, which also is just material. You like that, them just trying to do material. You and now you guys come in like, I think that's really cool and all of you look at me when it's not and I like, oh, why like, this sucks and i'm like, you showed me all these different examples and I like, wow.

they did a great show present. I have to say, with this keino overall, I felt like there was a very large delta between how excited I was based on the key o and then seeing IT in real life and being like.

yeah, I know about that. So my first impression of the homes screen thing was the same as you, which is, oh, finally, like, this is something wanning IT yeah I my eye anywhere great. Like, customizing my home experience is a big reason why I like android.

Same ah and we saw some these looking examples, but then immediately we started seeing on twitter people in solving the beta. And one of the reasons people would make fun of the iphone is because everyone's homes screens always looked the same. They always all look the same as your icons, all from the top down, from the left of the right.

And I think now you're finally able to ruin your homes screen just as easily as make IT really pretty. And people aren't very good at making IT really pretty. So there are a lot of examples of really ugly home screens on the iphone, not like creatively horrible home screen.

I have any thoughts here. So that exists .

now to the ability to ruin .

your home screen. I don't have to look at their phones. That's fair. Yeah, I trust myself to make things look good.

What if you walked into your house and everything .

you owned was tinted the same color?

So I would inside the same color, I would never be like, this is Better.

Here's the one thing why I think you like at first, to me being able to actually tin everything, one of the issues with material, you, as I tried to do that, but there are always like three icons that didn't, and that looks terrible. I think collectively, bad looks Better than eighty percent good. And the rest is not even here.

My is that android has always been like go do whatever you want so hard that they offered icon acts and they allowed people to like build these icon acts that made things look really good. And when they released material, you you are right, they would be like eighty percent of the apps support material. And if you didn't and IT sucked, but maybe could hide them.

But at least google put a lot of effort into material you. And what apple has done is they've been like we're not giving you any control over this. We are choosing how much control you can have in the fact that every single APP has to be tinted the exact same way on a very basic two color palet very apple like with very little .

thought into .

its basically like what's the primary color on your home screen? What's going to everything that way you can control the saturation. Just I don't know that. I just think that looks a really bad.

I think I also sucked for that high letter yellow that cragged did on the thing with the tense. I love, I think, good.

The black icon. If this secondary colors on the icons, I think we look that something that material you does really well is that he has a primary color and .

IT also has a complementary color. So but that's .

the problem is like it's black and one primary color and that is IT IT just makes IT look really cheap and like a child's toy.

This is its Fishery Price .

material yeah we have material. yes. Yeah yeah. And the fact that the entire control that you have is either it's tented a color or you're just not doing anything to IT is kind of ridiculous.

Yeah, I will say the dark mode looks pretty cool. Yes, the dark mode icon is actually looks good.

The dark mode or icon s now have dark backgrounds, which is different.

I think some people will do some cool things with, and I think more people will do some terrible things.

I will say the the hitting um this clearly is a developer beta, so it's gona change over time. But I tried IT at the event. And certain colors of you tend to the certain color.

The text of anything on the icon will just disappear. A couple of my icons effectively disappeared because IT tinted red turned down the same colors. That thing they were right up against that they just work away and you couldn't see them.

Yeah, just a couple examples i've seen on twitter of just eligible. Yes, this attend.

This is going to be one of those things with, like, it's such a simple change, no one could screw this up and then you release IT to the hounds of the public world and then everything breaks you like.

wow, yeah, people are crazy. IT was pretty rough. Anyway, it's interesting that they're now giving users this power, but I feel like they need to change way they do IT.

So I have a set way into the next thing here, just control center and non iphone user, I saw this was like, that looks really cool and then you all hoped me again and no, it's really poorly laid out and I was like, wow, I don't know what's going on okay.

So we should explain what this .

is yeah playing so control center before and i've everything up until now has been swiped down from the top and there is all of the controls. So you have home controls, there they are. You have media controls, there they are.

If you have any other random controls sitting there, draw all there. 嗯， uh, this new one is pagination. So, uh, I to explain .

what that means to me.

So there are several pages now of them and they're .

all part .

of you in .

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yeah sorry.

you swipe down and there is full screen pages of these things. So there's the second pages, just all of your media controls and you swipe down again and it's just all your home controls. And then also you can expand and shrink a lot of these controls sort of freely.

So I think that default, which is what most people will have and never change, looks okay, IT looks okay, but IT looks OK, I think. But the second you mess with IT and try to customize IT, you really get in the weeds. And I think a lot of people also make horrible looking a control centers, especially because there is now the ability for third party apps to add and surface controls that you can add to your control center. Yeah so like, let's say, the tesla APP adds one where I can cool down my car, the button I can throw that in the control center, which is convening, but is also now a new thing that's awesome there. So gets there's like .

terrible third party weather apps that i've like the worst design in the world and are making, which is but you know there are also the most accurate, whether once you have to keep using IT.

Yeah, there a few things here. I think that the ideas really cool. I think that if you actually spend the time to organize IT in a way that makes a lot of sense and works for you, it's really cool that they're giving .

everybody much control. That's where I live, yes. Like setting IT up, spending a way too much time, like making IT awesome. Yes.

which is not very apple, and it's surprising that they're now doing this. But I can appreciate .

that I can I just jump yeah I think that's why I think it's so cool though, because I like my screen to have very few things. So if I can think of a good wall paper, four icons that i've tended to, a color that I like because it's only A A couple, all right. And then now a swipe down with multiple different swipes in there that don't always live on my Green, and I can control everything from there if I customize .

all that perfectly.

That's the the closes i've been to warning .

an iphone fair. I do think that default use some work. Um IT now takes an extra step to get to your. Setts, because when you scroll down now, you have to tap into this bubble that has a bunch your networking stuff in IT.

And then you have to hold the wifi settle to pop up the wifi context menu, and then you have to hit the wifi button and then IT brings you to the wifi page in the settings. It's like, it's like a it's like a five step process just to try to find the wifi network to connect to. And then the other problem is that on the pagination, there are there is a lot of pagination beauty pagination OK nation.

There's lot of redundant information. So the first page has like all of these options that you can use, and it's kind of like all the things that we're generally in control center before we're going to put in the first page. But then I also pagination tes everything.

So the last menu is all your radios, but those radios are already in the first venue as well. So just like weird, redundant and that i'm just reiterating, like if you actually take the time to t sort these out and make them the way that you want them to be, I think it's great. So do that.

Yeah, that's good. Do that when IT comes out. nice. Yes yes.

To do that yeah. I think you know generally homework reen customer ation is good. I think if you zoom out in the road came of things, this still isn't really that much customer ation.

You can leave your icons, whatever. sure. You can tink your icons, sure. But there's still so much more that you can still do on android.

I remember back in the day, I had A, I had an invisible icon home screen set up. yeah. So I had a wallpaper that had text on IT. And then I had mapped invisible folders to each text so that I D hit the text on the wallpaper. And I would blow up like a sex was just like, you do all sorts of stuff like that yeah and yeah, this is just a couple more icon.

Speaking of invisible folders, they also added hidden folders.

which just got added on android, by the way, really yeah.

they know there's long and phones had IT already. And I think that maybe A O S P just added, yeah, yeah, because I remember where there's been funds that have had this. But yes, you can you can hide apps in a hidden apps folder.

I have a question about this because the way they presented IT, he did that joke where, like crag was like hiding that hair three modeller thing, but he dragged to a hidden folder. But on the page you could still just see what APP was in.

yeah. So to close the loop of like locking.

logging, whatever, hi, what is in there? Or can I is the hidden folder? I can see all the apps that are in there.

No, so so there's a you know how there's the all the way to the right of the home screen. There's I don't all these yeah yes, there will be a hidden apps, one at the bottom and then you won't see what there will be blank and you have to lock IT again .

with your face and that part .

yeah ah and besides that folder, you can also now lock individual apps so that they require a biological ticket to able to .

open them in general each time yeah.

so that's good.

I guess. Yeah, I really, really don't want you to open my instagram. Yeah do you .

wants to know what my least favourite feature is? An I O S. eighteen. What geno genes.

what your little fever?

I thought you would be on my side with this OK.

I feel mixed. I feel mixed until you see what different phones. So I always had this theory where you, when they finally added R S, two, I message caught up a lot of the features that android phones didn't have.

So now you have typing indicators and high resolution media and all the stuff. And so they just went, what if we add a bunch of other stuff that isn't support IT again? So we have a continual divide .

between I message and not I message. I.

So this is malicious compliance force.

I just want .

to say when I first .

saw the generate, the geno gi, and then I know we will talk about IT later, the image playground sticker in integration thing I was like why this is disgusting and but I thought about of the as this is exactly how I text and this is going to save me. Like this morning, like I was an essential message that I put in slack, I needed a picture of north, the rapper looking really disappointed.

And like I looked all over the internet, I eventually found one. The joke landed. Everyone laughed by if I could just and i'm already like always open a runway on my phone and being like, disappointed not sir. Whatever I is, I need that. So I think this .

really stream stream process OK, but we didn't actually describe what happens. So so yeah, there are now more than the Normal six tap backs. So a tap back, just the official name for, like the six reactions that comes up, comes down the, haha, the heart already know there are apples gone.

You know what? You can do any M O G as a tap back now, yeah so literally any ioc and if i'm on and right and I get one of those text, it's going to say the same text of like mars reacted with star m. Mog like great if it's a different mog.

So google messages hard to coded the six tap back the standard gug the apple was doing so that IT now just smashes IT on yeah but now apple was like, HMM my turn. Google, now i'm just going to let you react with any mog. Go ahead. Hard code, all of these and .

hard code ones that don't exist until someone generates .

we're not talking about gene that were talking about rego. That's already thing, yes. But now there's also gens geno g generating your own a mog and you can also tap back a gene mog as a reaction, right? So there's just no way that can work both ways. It's just only going to work inside I message.

Yeah, i'm OK with that though. I just wanted encryption from R. C.

S. That's fair. My message is gonna build features on top of that. That's fine. What time does the telegram does like?

Not a big deal. I env you because there are so many kids out there getting bully because they don't have the gene modes, man.

they can send back a IT really does feel to me like apple is maliciously complying. They're like we're getting sued for this. Fine, whatever you want, but we're going to make the experience terrible regardless. We're going to make sure it's still terrible.

You notice R, C, S is still Green in the presentation.

Same color, Green too. I actually did analyze that.

Was there any response in the crowd for the half of a second they mentioned, yeah, people like cheer for a second OK. They moved on so many by gg, the genis .

interesting.

because IT was trained on the apple eo I set. So whatever you develop looks exactly like an apple M. I IT looks realistic, cool. Um you can also now tap back with stickers, which if you don't know what a sticker is basically like cut out any image with the the semantic segmentation thing that they have .

in the photos and just .

love IT in your chat and then you .

can just be .

in your chat horrible messy chat. I love this school has have .

some stickers are like at least at touched to the messages because you can throw a stickers just in as messages yeah all over the place I .

messages when I message does IT is ridiculous. You can literally paste anywhere in the field, but now you can also tap back with the sticker IT won't show IT in the a oji tap back area. It'll hang IT on the bottom. So it's dict .

I we're vandal's zing messages.

There's like super .

cripp and subscribe. Didn't we mentioned that the the like animating different words, the amount of sarcasm that you can portray in a text message? Now, I think i've touching the .

iphone just for I message. Friends will see this archive. Yeah, there are now text effects for individual words they want to.

So I mesa had all these features where if you said happy birthday, there would be balloons that would go up. If you said happy new year, there would be firework to automatically doll these things. And you could also make certain text, like big or small, or yell.

And I was like, six different effects like that. They added a bunch of extra effects, and now you can make IT happen to individual words. So you can have a string of words and just add different text effects to different words.

And it's crazy. And now there is also text formatting, so you can strike through, you can bold, you can underline, which personally, I think everything should have text formatting. So that's good. But IT really IT really does feel like texting apps are now just becoming tony mous with all of these internet based menu apps like they're pulling in all of the feature fall on what's yeah and pretty much they probably feel a lot of pressure. And they are just like we have to have offer feature parody to get people to still want to use die message.

Here's another nice one that's exclusive eye message, uh, scheduled messages. Oh my god, the way these work is just with eyes message. So if you want to do a scheduled eye ssa's, you can type out the message, by the way, you can just do this on and red funds work.

But if you want to schedule on my message, you can write IT out and you can go to you, I and decide when you want to send IT. And because it's going to eye message specifically, IT can also work if you lose, sell connection or for phone died because it's already in the eye ssa's cloud and we will go to that message. User, uh.

cool. No yeah .

not not great that he does not work everywhere like the club. And then then there's also a messages, a via satellite, which will be Y S S or I message.

but not s yeah. They said reduced the protocol. They spent a lot of work shrinking down the I message protocol to make IT work over satellite and I was like, I would like to see proof that that is true because that definitely seems like a thing you would just say ah um but yeah so the schedule send message is thing their reasoning for that was that you know if your phone dies or you lose your phone or whatever, it'll still send personally.

I'm like I don't really want a scheduled message to send if I lost my phone or if my phone dies because if the person replies right away, i'm not going to reply. Yeah, you know, I don't know if I think is a bad a reason, because he ended up forever. And they should just do under this, but they will never do that.

yeah. Okay, there are so much stuff, guys. There is so much stuff. A updates to the mae APP. Not a ton of updates he will get categories will will get into the more of the updates later. Yet the male up nounce categories that looks just like .

gmail here we I can do home bunch is really quick OK. The male APP now has categories ies like gmail. The map map now has top graphic view, and you can do offline hiking maps like all trails.

Another another sherlock moment. You can now do tap to send people cash. You know, kind of like when you without your contact, without having them in your context, uh, you can now use game mode same as, uh, maybe any android at one of the game mode.

IT should reduce background activity three of some RAM and reduced lin a photos. APP now has a little bit of redesign and walk, get into the air stuff in a bit. R, C, S, IT happened.

Uh, and also, that's IT. Yeah, that's a good stuff. Yeah.

that's most of the good stuff. yeah. Basically there's a ton of changes to I O S A T, ipad.

O S A T got a lot of these same changes, same homework reen. You can make IT look like puke. Um the control center is the same messed until you fix IT.

And now there is a new intelligent tab bar in certain apple apps that will sort of flow above the content of those apps. And you can change, change around the way at work. So it's basically like a side bar that you're now putting on a tabar r, which I think is very much to what android phones have been doing.

The bigger android phones that have the little contextual bars at the bottom let you help around. I think they need to take different that uh, there's a new share play feature now, which is basically just for kids and people are age that have to do tech support for our parents. And yeah so now you yes, you can remote ipad because of course, you're here as an ipad and you can show them your taps so that you can teach them how to do things on their ipad. And also you can just take over their ipad remotely and you stuff for them.

Can you do IT on a computer? Or do I also .

need an ipad? Look, they showed IT with another ipad.

I believe you, I think ah but the most impressive, exciting thing about the ipad IOS eighteen or ipad aos teen is the calculator.

We did IT.

We did you. I was so ready to dunk on this. I was so ready dunk on this.

Have a great clip already pulled up and up.

I was ready to send IT I there. Is that okay? For those who will win a little bit, the ipad is not how to calculator up for many years and ever when I into the point where is kind of a me like the ipad is the most powful tabin the world.

but also.

well, so then I finally asked craig federally, head of software apple, and he wasn't kind of expected the question, but he gave me one, which was, you know, we haven't done IT just because when we do something new, we actually want to be able to do IT in a way that's like, wow. What a great thing that they did. So we just haven't got ten around the calculator.

And I, along with the entire rest of the internet and the entire comment section, went that kind of a joke of an answer. You could have done a calculator a long time ago. And so they started to actually tell us in this W W E D C, hey guys, we actually we made a calculate for the ipad.

They show the first screen shots and I look like iphone was like, you waited to just give us this and there's nothing here yeah and then they pull up a button on the corner that said, math notes. And he took off the apple pencil and they started doing handwritten math. And I want, oh, wow, they did IT.

They actually delivered on the promise of a calculator that is really impressive and unique for the ipad. Now the spoiler is this is also coming to the iphone, but we're going to ignore that yeah, we're going to ignore that because math notice is amazing. So what is math notes? Math notes is literally, if you like, hands right and equation.

And it's mostly simple equation that doesn't do calculus anything. But if you just hand right equation three plus five equals in your handwriting, just write equals and that will write the answer IT will write the eight in your handwriting too. Yeah, just pretty, pretty.

Some you can do division, long division, order Operations. Any equation you write, you just hit equals and little saw IT for you. It'll recognize your handwriting and do the math.

That's amazing. You can also do graphs for you. I can also do adJusting graphs based on sliding around your variables. As you can do variable recognition change.

you can set your variable at the top of the page and then I will know that g is eight plus fourteen plus nine. Yeah it's and .

the way you can adjust IT is like if x is equal to a but you wanted to be IT has like a slider .

and you can sit .

back up eight, eight, eight meters per second.

That's true that actually but actually .

twenty one meters.

But the fact that does all that through recognizing your handwriting and in basically real time, I ve never seen that before. It's very impressed. I don't know if I would actually use this, but if I was in tenth grade physics, again.

I would be using this. I is very cool. IT. IT works like I was thinking about when I was in physics class.

And IT works exact same way where you set all your variables at the top of the page and you start writing out the equations and IT just fills in everything for you. And the quarter about that says it's not like taking a way you do the math in your brain. It's just taking away the parts that you had to punch into a calculator separately.

Yeah so you're still like you stuff to know like, okay, gravity is this and so if a multiplying gravity by this, then you're getting this. We are still working out the equation on your own in your head. It's just that instead of punching something into a calculator is just doing that .

in the real time, which is very cool. Need to know the equals. I'm exlude like the you want to use, but the fact actually does the math. Yeah, I mean.

I should. It's a powerful computer.

but yeah, IT does IT and IT works .

in away where you can change a variable like load on the page. So if you set g to something up here and then load on the page, you you say g equals this, you will now know that g equals that just because it's a lower down the page. So works from the top left to the bottom right.

Just a lot of very well considered. Yeah, I was impressed.

I think it's really cool. You said they delivered. Do you still think this was worth the what ten years to have .

a calculation? You can I do.

This was really cool and a great like presentation .

uh but feels like .

wait that long for a calculate like this is not worth putting the calculi.

They could have just done the basic calculation and .

then added mah notes later, which is true also. But the the argument that we all called B S. On was we wanted deliver something really special, and we thought they were just gonna a regular cut writer. So the fact that they delivered on something really special is delivered on something. Yes.

I think fair. I think I think they .

have done this like four years ago. You think they needed their current capabilities.

said this fourteen .

forward a 44 yeah okay yeah。 So which actually a few generations ago, yes, they built. You may have an older iphones and older ipad. I can still use this or just cool um but at the fact that so this comes from one of the other features which walk into the ask of later but script smart scrip script smart script is another very interesting a version of this words not quite a but you can write in the notes up in your handwriting and IT will, as you're writing live, strain IT to be on a straight line, it'll clean up so one of your letters to be more eligible .

yeah auto correct.

IT auto your hand hand identify IT .

will justify IT. So if you're like writing like this, it's straights IT and then IT also puts IT .

really I think this is really cool and like you can scribble things out and i'll just raise IT .

just like reformat and fill in the text yeah all of that is in the same vein to me like all this is really clever and a good use of, like if you happen, have an apple pencil and the ipad. This is potentially game changing. awesome. No, taking for you.

I need to see how handles dating because I have orrible c counting. So we're working .

on some videos about these features and we're using them right now, not onna show on camera because we're technically not allow to yet. David, no fans, no fence boy, your handwriting was a really a good, I wrote. David bore looks like a nine .

IT was a good test.

So we're going to try this a lot more. But I I think that's kind of hand hand with the .

math notes thing I will say I thought the math notes got IT wrong and then I just realized that my father looked exactly like and then yeah so you do have to have OK handwriting of which I do not um but yeah it's very cool. They thought IT out really well. You can access math notes from the calculator APP.

You can also access IT from the notes APP. You can just pop into math notes from there. And the way that the index IT is when you hop into math notes IT looks exactly like the notes ab.

So you have all the separate notes that you can name and you can like index by certain time and stuff like that um and it's just a separate section of the note but I will open IT. It's really freaking cool. I honestly, if I was in six through twelve grade, I would buy an ipad for this feature.

I kind of want a ipad for just smart script. I think it's really cool. And yeah, i've been leaning towards winning an ipad daily. Ah I don't know ipad needs mag safe. I know that this but mag safe fun and .

ipad with mag safe .

or maxi flink for accessories on the back because I wanted a handle accessory that I can just pop off. Really easier to be able to prop IT .

up on things but not affect the actual I do I do want an ipad with mag safe just so I can be like a smart home like we talked about that for years.

So guys leaves, there are a tone of magnets in the ipad already. And the way the folio touch the back, it's not called my safe, but IT slept on the back is .

exactly what I want. Do you know how we have the robot ipad? And I have that little hand on the back? I had to add, hear a piece of voco on to IT.

So if I could have a strap that I could hold with one, and that I could just onto the back, that's first party. And I know it's going to hold IT k and I can just pop IT off. Very sick. That will be.

So yeah, right now you should put that handle on the folio, like, cut the front of the folio off and then, like, put the handle on the back of the folio. So you can just pop the whole thing off and i'll just .

slap on with magical.

or they can just add. Mac, yes.

I wanted because I wanted to work the same way that the pixel tablet works, where it's a visual apple home device that shows you your photos, everything, and then when you use your ipad, because I don't feel like I was used the ipad that often. But if IT doubled as a home device.

what's I can I remember the name of the iphone, words like landscape next year, computer that's called.

or any of a standby mode.

think we finally have an OLED ipad. But IT doesn't do stand by. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

They made a finger, which I am like if you have to put if you put max safe in IT, then you have to put a bunch of violence charging coils. So how do you do that?

Because because they would want IT. I don't care if it's where the charging.

but they have maybe they can make a glass circle on the back or why .

would IT matter that .

it's middle and they .

charged their metal charge doesn't work.

Metal really yeah, yeah, yeah.

Really yes.

When the iphone is glass on the back .

and right to send you a ipad pistol grip, I think that might solve your problem.

Well, well, Andrew looks up th Epace o f h er. I we have should take a quick break, which does mean we've got time for .

some more trivial trivia. Dude, this looks.

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mentioned craigs joke .

APP of hair track pro while discussing hidden folders on IOS, but do you remember what hardware he demonstrated pairing with the hair track pro?

Yes, you big question, mark.

I need the full name and you get or the technology used in the full name. I'll take either one for a point.

okay.

Mark is so confused, is out of focus. Mentally and physically.

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Well, come back. And now we are going to talk about the A I section of the presentation. Not that kind of A I, not that kind of a Allan. everything. This is a seven six part. But I just had a question for David Marcus before we jump into this at how was IT at the event because we all didn't go this year.

So like what was the vibe like when you were sitting there during this part? Because for this part, for me, sitting here in the studio watching on the TV IT was kind of boring. Was that the same time in Steve job?

Very interesting thing. A usually doubt up is two hours, and they go over each feature for like a little bit, and they move on. This year, they stood the entire keo in one hour and then did an entire hour for the AI portion.

So the beginning they were just like rapid. And now the apple watch has this feature, and also, you can do this. And then now we're on this.

Oh, T V O S. Time is just like, boom, bom, bom. Yeah, yeah.

So they kind of drew out the A I feature a little bit, but there is a lot there. So I mean, what do you think? Yes.

kind of feel like a youtube video design for attention. We all went there are knowing that they're going to talk about ai and they spent the first hour going, they literally say A I zero times in the first hour actually. And we noticed that really how many times going to say ai IT was zero.

They talked to a whole bunch stuff. And we are curious about IT and there's some good stuff in the calculator, baba. But then when tim cook came back on stage, IT was this moment of, okay, the key OS either about to end or it's about to begin.

And that was the beginning. And he said artificial intelligence for the first time. And then there was a sort of a here we go for the second half.

And in the first, have they literally .

kept skirting the words so much? They said general intelligence once. They said intelligence multiple times. And it's kind of crazy because they actually did say AI eight times in the ipad and forky now and then they just very like, you know what.

we're not going to do he said IT once just a dunk on IT.

So yeah.

yeah okay. So I was like the vibe there was just very lake like anticipatory. Yes, it's about to begin now.

I think so we all knew is coming. I'm sure there are some people there who were like, oh, wow, intelligence. yeah.

Let's talk about that too. But I think most of us knew this was coming. Yeah, that happened.

They did IT. They rebranded AI to apple intelligence. Is apple intelligence for them? Now me is real great.

One of us guess that it's so obvious there.

To be fair, we did do that entire video like things they didn't say and refuse to say. And the reason that I I fear ized that they didn't do that is because they didn't really have control over this word and alexi on, like virtual reality. They don't save viral reality or V, R, because other companies kind of owe that now. And if something goes crazy with A V, R, they can know is we don't do we are with this. Everything over here.

there's all these buzz ds that are now associated with like negative things. Yeah, metaphors are cripes. Like it's all just like scams .

and money for a for the onest was one of those words. And instead of continuing to say machine learning or whatever, there's so much pressure from the world that we live in that they have to be an A I company like they just have to own IT they to talk about A I so they're doing ai, but it's apples way.

It's A I when is positive and its apple intelligence, when A I has a negative connotation, exactly, take and eating.

So to be perfectly clear, apple intelligence specifically is using these new generative models, not just the regular I stuff. So these are the diffusion models. These are the large language models to do things locally on the phone using apple built models instead of just the I features we already know and love for mothers. That's the main difference. So whenever you see a writing tool or a general fill in a background of a photo or new things that use these these models, like image playgrounds and all the sort of stuff that were going to talk about, like gena, I all of that falls under the apple intelligence umbrella.

which makes less sense. As much as I annoyed that they just like a rebranded be based on their name, I am equally annoying yed that the entire industry just took the word A I and decided that transformer based large language models or transformer based to fusion models are now all A I. I hate that. So that is kind of call that they're separating, kind of wish they didn't do advice saying we're the only one that exists but that apple is going to have apple. So yeah, yeah.

So I think my general thought, well, actually, I think we should just start with the fundamentals, which is these are all apple built models. I don't think that was super clear watching the presentation. Yeah, but these are apple built models. And yes, we asked the question, what is this trained on? And we got a lot of the same answers, publicly available information, license data free things available on the web.

That's kind of all you get to know about how apple train their stuff but you yeah no, I didn't really get to dig your interview because like I said the beginning like there is no time to actually ask for questions in this interview. I would have loved to asked him about the stuff and and I probably still will try to ask. But the point is apple made of these models.

And the thing about these, uh, general models is some of them are small enough and can perform tasks on device, which is the preferred fastest method. You can do things online. They all happen quickly in the silicon, but there are occasionally large enough or complex enough requests that you need to take advantage of a larger model or something that has um a little beautiful wider training set or whatever IT is.

So apple's larger models live on apple built servers that they will communicate with to do some of these larger requests. And then finally, if you ask theory or ask the writing tool, something as specifically draws from, like world knowledge, or something that apples set of training doesn't really include, IT will actually literally ask you, do you mind if I go to ChatGPT for this one? And ChatGPT is what they figures the best one right now.

They've open the door to possibly adding german I and others in the future um but I will literally ask you, can I send this request to ChatGPT and you can approve at any moment so any explicit request for uploading a photo or uploading data from a query uh, it's all free. You don't need an account. You can log in with an account if you want to, to string those things together and to use.

if the like profit yes, to use features yeah .

ChatGPT and I believe if you connect your ChatGPT pro account that information will also show up in your ChatGPT portal right yeah um so that's that's the basics .

of how these models work yeah so all of that comes down to you like what are the features that you get out of these models that are now on the phone and on apple servers? Uh and there are things like writing tools. So anywhere there's a text uh curse in macos or on your phone, you can prove you can have things rewritten in different styles or in different amounts of text.

Uh, you can shorten things. All of those writing tools are potentially really useful. Um you can have IT summarize your phones. Notifications are sort of desire. It's almost like the same thing we .

just saw on android. Yeah, I don't love this. It's kind of way. So there they now have priority notifications. And basically, I think that this is just their way of cleaning up how terrible I O S not things have gotten where you get eight thousand notifications on your page, but now it'll show you priority notifications based on a number of factors, like when IT was sent. If there's text inside of the notification that says things like tonight or in two hours or something like that, surface this at the top, that's cool. The thing I don't love about IT is that IT just summarizes the notification and tells you something here.

So if my friend Kelly texted me, i'd be like Kelly wants to know when you want to have dinner instead of just showing me her message that says, do you want? When do you want to have dinner at night? And I just feels a little bit impersonal, but IT is IT does act in a way that a actual human personal system would act right. Give you unitization and then you click on IT and then you can reply attacks.

So there is that I think there is also if certain apps are sending too many notifications and you're not actually like using them, are early going through, yes. So I can use the get that out and prioritized ones that you actually are responding to an an activating, yes.

which seem pretty cool. The google map, if I don't do anything, it'll just send me notifications of this motion, this motion and I don't click, but then I might be like the doorbell just ring I don't need to know about all the motion stuff, but I probably do wanted know about.

But if someone you've record all the motion, yeah yeah exactly. Some of the settings are really well and then .

there's all the general stuff. So there is a new feature in the apple photos, APP, which will let you do exactly what magical or does. On the pixel and all the google phones, which is it'll figure out what's the foreground, figure out what's the background and unwanted subjects in oil to race .

them yeah IT does this actually, I think, a little bit Better than magic. Atr is right now pretty an yeah yeah. They speaking in clean, they call the future clean up. So you click the clean up button and then the highlights automatically. The objects that he thinks you want to get rid of, which is already pretty cool.

Google also does. IT is not as colorful and pretty got IT yeah. But then also the like circle something else and they move IT, which cleverly would obscure part of your circle, one behind the subject, just like a little stuff like that works Better.

I said, immediately noticed that. And when David came was like, was that on purpose or like a bad edit or but like, no, it's it's recognizing the subject and circling behind. You're not worried about shipping off shoulder shoulder because somebody walked free with magic racer.

You had to be very careful about making sure that you didn't actually a race over something else. But because this is doing that symmetry segmentation, where IT knows where the foreground in the background is, if IT sees you circling over the background first, you can still hover over the foreground, and it'll only a race. The background here, which is very smart.

there's also the image playground APP, which will literally let you, is so weird, but IT literally just an image generation APP. It'll give you a little square image of whatever promptly want in literally one of three styles with assist, he was drawing, illustration, sketch and something else, right? The very like a super limited in each generation, very basic. And so that makes a very clear why you shall also have the ability to go to ChatGPT and generate other images because these are that these are very limited.

Yeah, they made a dedicated image playground APP too, which I don't, it's kind of weird, basically, is like a dedicated late tool. And you can use IT to create images, and then IT up scales, IT. And then you can use another absent stuff. This is the one thing where I am, like gene m made sense, because are apple emerge style? But this is just like an image generation tool build onto the device, such an like, does anyone actually like that?

I thought they showed a few good examples, whether those specific ones were, because I know you guys are talking about this before, but one of them was like, is that, uh, image playgrounds?

Sorry.

image like if you were in notes and say you are writing something and you wanted have an image, if you like drew a circle, then you will take the context of things you are writing around. Plug those. You add anything that's called magic.

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party apps, I thought was pretty cool. You know what they should do with image playground? Let you connect IT to whatever and og was using. So now you can create something. And then, no, no, no. Animo gy were used to be able to make you make a shark talk 哦。 So now in image playground, I could create a bunny chef, and I could speak as the bunning.

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yeah. yeah. So that's all stuff that, you know, different levels are useful. And I guess the last one that got a big update is seri, yeah, syria is gone forever without any major updates. And this being the first big one. IT gets a new animation is is got this full outside of the screen, like, you know, pretty subbed, but nice animation when you talk to IT, we have heard a new voice, but there seems to speak some rumblings about a new voice so will check out if there's a new voice updates. Um by the way, I washed her on the plan.

Throw out out.

cancel this we're talking .

about is not. So I can confirm that the new theory is not scala hands and voice. But now when I hear scarred hands voice, I think of her the movie.

What do you think?

Yeah, read a decent movie, decent movie. I thought, you know, it's not my typical style of movie, but I I would say i'm glad I watched IT and I appreciated a lot of the take about the different pressing kinds of relationship with A I trusting what I wanted me personally. Six cool me personally.

They got some things really right, like things they got right, everyone uses airports. Things they got wrong, everyone uses surface duo.

Yeah I guess I I didn't know when the movie came out when I wash IT now knowing that it's like a .

ten year movie the one year .

before airports yeah .

the air the air peace saying was so yeah also when SHE generates music and generates pictures and .

she's like it's a new update and anyway.

it's cook. We've all seen her now .

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sir siri has a whole bunch of abilities and coming later this year, I think are some more even more important abilities which to plug into and take actions inside of apps. Yeah um you remember big that was like big, big thing where a kid like set my alarm for seven thirty and also send uh my address to like send a text with my dress like I could do things for you inside of ABS serious going to get that ability and with their party apps as well yeah that could be cool.

And when is so this is something I A little confused about. Maybe you guys got do you know when that's coming there? Yeah because they like very quickly segmented the A I sorry, the apple intelligence part where they said that and then they were like, and there's lots of other new things coming to theory after the launch and then very quickly went into these new things, which was like the in up syria, so is not coming out when I was teen.

And O S O K, seems like that one is post launched. Hard to say .

IT sounds like my prediction of theory being very whelming on that .

you give you like an apple marketing name, like maybe like like because it's like an A I that goes and like uses apps for you, like a cute animal name like them I know.

yeah. So there's there's a lot to talk about with the new theory. It's it's very interesting you got a new logo, but only in the new theory versions. So the new logo sort looks like IT looks like a neural network, but without the the neurons going in between each other, others sort of the circular neural network and IT only exists on the phones and on fifteen pro and fifteen pro max because IT requires the a seventeen pro chip or am one forward .

line apps. And max, yes, which yes does mean that old iphone and iphone fifteen s will have a different theory yeah, from the new iphone 5。 And the watch still has the old theory. The watch still has the old theory. So there is now too different and .

how it's weird.

So I home pod not getting Better with the new theory yeah and I guess I D hops for the home pot yeah um kind of reminiscent of assistance and barred in a weird way now that there's that of a delta between functionality which .

yeah exactly arrest.

So just this this delta in functionality, apples being, I don't want to say, in more intentional IT feels a little bit intentional, but it's also yet like the new as silicon is the most capable. So I get IT where as google steals more accidental like yes, we fox on one thing and for about the one yeah but IT of there will not be new theory on iphone .

fifteen yeah that is weird. The biggest updates are really the more natural language processing. So yeah, they intentionally, like all of their demos, were like, hey, sir, set my learn for seven. You know what? I don't like getting up that early set up for nine thirty.

No, I one of my pet peeves was the way apple i'm that i'm rosing and for notes, right? But the way apple employees fake a bad problem is so bad. Bad alarm for just set a timer for two minutes. You are very clear about what you wanted to do there. But how does the work in the .

real world just stumble over my words are used the wrong key words, and which is good with cool. Because when google system first came out in twenty sixteen, adam and I were both working for, and I remember my boss at the time had no idea how to prompt these things. So these google homes came out and he's like, hey, je um can you can you like, I don't know like maybe like top order some stuff for me from the he was literally like this and I had to be like, you can't talk to IT that way you have to use very specific keywords ah um so now you can which is very cool, more human, very human like um and then I think the fact that can ask you to do certain things in your phone is a really awesome there. They added some really cool examples like there was a play, the podcast that Jamie recommended yeah which is awesome because it's then it's reaching into all your communication with jammy.

whether it's an email or messages. This was the moment to me that cemented that rabbit and he may never had a change. These standalone AI devices don't know anything about you, and also stubbly refuse to connect pure phones. So they don't know anything about your contacts, anything about your lifestyle, where where you live. Any of this stuff at your phone knows.

And obviously, tim cook, like, emphasized A, I must be personal, but clearly, if you can ask the new theory, there is A A thing where I think it's said, like, find every picture I have of this person with this pink dress on from that trip. I went to that one place and IT goes, okay, I know what this person is because of your photos, I know what they look like, I know the pink dress looks like, and I know the GPS tags of your photos. And I just pulls up all the exact photos, which, if that works, is really because he knows everything that has all the information I can dig through your phone, I can do everything locally and and IT just works. Or the human pin never had a shot at doing any of that because he doesn't know or have any of those those photos.

H feel like that's the magic of when we years ago, when we realized you can type into google who is that actor with the blue jacket in the movie about, right this. And but now it's about your personal stuff and you can just find that on your phone and that's that's really cool considering like .

that is so powerful that I can actually see myself using syria all the time now because you can just hit like the action button and IT comes up. Also you can type theory, which is very cool. You just cap at the bottom of the iphone and a little a theory keyboard comes up over whatever appear in yeah so ah you could be in the messages APP or something and you could hit little bottom and at the bottom and be like heke's schedule thing to this person and a automated .

do IT and is also screen contents aware yes, if is something happening on your screen, you can ask serious something .

about what's on your screen yeah cool yeah so yeah I think being able to reach into outside that and pull out contextual information is very, very, very cool.

But there was one example they showed that you are complaining about before that's very funny, which is I can reach on the apps. But then when you ask IT to do things on your phone.

do you want well, so a few a bunch of the examples that I gave, we're like, oh, you don't know how to do this so you ask siri, like, hey siri, how do I schedule to send a message? And then IT pulls up a little like from apple instructional manual and tutorial like step is up. And like, why would you just tell you to schedule the message and set up asking for the venue?

Yeah, I know anyone who would ask for instructions they would to ask you to do the thing.

I these APP .

capabilities and then when IT seems like it's setting based things or yeah like how to do something that just doesn't do IT yeah, it's almost like that the end prompt of all the google assistant when you're like, uh, hey, can you turn off the lights and it's like IT does IT and then he says, like, by the way, if you didn't know, you can try and do like this.

You are yeah it's really.

really a nice just do the thing because I I can see IT bringing up a prompt of how to do things. And then like this is Better because I don't have to be the I T. person.

But then a relative of mine is going to be like, how do wise schedules and message? And the thing pops up with the instructions, and then they call me and they say the instructions, say the distance. But I don't know where that is got just do to do that.

the whole point is that you should just people to tell your device what to do, and I should be able to do IT. I am very curious when it's actually launch is how the U X. Of this is going to look. For example, if you say send the photos from the barbecue on saturday to mulia IT was one of these examples are you're going to be able to see the photos to confirm what they're doing because that's something we were talking about on the with being able to see what it's doing.

do you actually trust IT? Yeah.

I have a good question. sure. Are we actually gona call IT apple intelligence? No.

OK apple intelligence. The sweet of features, basically generated features.

I'm going to call each feature by its name. I rolla of apple intelligence just helps us stay specific about what we're talking about, but I don't think i'm actually gonna call anything I won't tell you now. Yeah.

cool. I don't think they really want people call that anyway. They just want to call or they want to call, sorry.

sorry, they probably just clearly want to be like, yeah, we've had A I for years .

did yeah .

that's what they loves.

Yes, I do want to pose a really interesting existence. Al question I was thinking out on the plane, do IT. So now that you can ask siri to deal the stuff on your phone, and if you can also ask theory, any question, and IT will prompt ChatGPT for ren answer, are people gonna stop using google as much? Cause what do you have to go to google for nearly as much? A lot of this depends .

on quality because you can still currently, with the Normal series, asking questions and it's not very good, people would rather google IT. So if syria gets good enough at asking at answering questions, actually IT minimize loose nations. And it's a reliable answer to many searches. Then I could see that being a real dilma fact .

that you can say, like, how do I want to make like a nice chicken palm? And he says, can I send that career a ChatGPT instead of google? IT like IT traditionally would do if they .

can help do that, you can type to siri now. So like .

it's a search engine.

there still will be the like shopping and things that need to bring you a physical links where that will be but yeah does seem like IT be cut like and have pretty much yeah if that's the case and if you trust that, which people are going to trust that, you bring something like that to. Now the most popular phone in the U. S.

And in terms of market share, people are just others. A corning future on my phone that does everything right IT is so easy to use IT all be perfect. yeah. And that's not the I often.

often wonder. I I wish I could see the metrics of all this data of like what people are using and how much they're using IT. Because I just want to know if people stop using google when they have this.

how long until demonize on the phone sort of chat.

they said IT is coming.

I know.

but how long I did find that interested in that they said it's opened. Its the partner with OpenAI for some things, but there's space for other ones to be added as well. So like we thought before, that deal with geri didn't happen because then we saw the deal open eye. But that sounds like a so happen anything could be part of that, which I think is cool.

I think a bunch of apple, because they don't want to put other eggs in one basket.

agreed. And they like still want to keep there. And this is something we didn't really cover that I think they covered right off the bed because important was is the privacy aspects of all of these different things in their A I features, which is like the things on the device are the on device things and even the ones they need to send to that computing cloud. Yeah, they said it's like on a server that they own running their chips and then each one has to be like third party tested or something before even is allowed to accept queries. Um again, it's a true dollar company that having things that they could make money off you but you always have to be skeptical but I think they did oh way, way Better job at like saying and showing ways that .

they are taking private in the presentation .

had current apple, which is one of the ever made was like thirty percent of the entire like second half of then you're just like call call. Just remember this is private like though and they had to really .

so many times this kind of well um yeah do we do IT that's apple intelligence and IT will become later this year. So we don't really get to test any actually, most of the features that they announced A C on most of the platforms are not in any of the d on how well .

they actually work. Yeah but that's where you should just subscribe now so that when we actually do know what we will .

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is about the only thing you don't want another to know.

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but you have this APP, right?

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I remember what that looks like.

but I know what device to that emblem. First of here on wait.

first appear, you would only was on one.

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because we were like taking furious notes. And I feel like at a disadvantage with the extremely new, but I had a seven old that teaching, which means you get the high level details.

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tim cook wearing at this year's wwdc twenty four.

I don't know what kind they were. I can picture them because he wore them in my interview.

Actually, markets, I believe he wore a different parents sneakers in your interview. So if you want to name those, I will also accept those. I have both of them.

You're acting just the company.

No, because he is on the board of directors of that company and will never wear shoes by another company.

I realized his glasses are nike. Also, are they really in interview front hf is black.

and the back hf is weight. And I remember the problem.

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multiple at one point? Someone, oh, here, IT is here. IT is in the elevator. In the elevator when the guy gets the call and he does not want to pick up the call, oh yeah, who's calling him?

said.

But I need to know what he refers to his grandmother as first. 哪。

Nana, nana.

I only remember this because I was so silly.

It's silly, very silly.

Very .

proud.

Let's see that.

But graham.

I game.

game the erected, or isn't fact a game?

Gang gang. That was a fake bonus question, right?

And time with markets quit Marks take us out before David ask for another one .

yeah think that's IT. Next time i'll be asking theory the answers to trivia and just comparing the answers with .

what I come up with later this .

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