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What is up, people of the internet? Welcome back to another episode of the way of from .

podcast where your host .

and this week, we've got a bunch of its almost text text type stuff happening. I would say we've got some new U I features to help give online ads, possibly uh, new google hardware before we actually officially see the pixel and gool being declared on monopolies. Some interesting learnings from that. Plus we're going to wrap up with a game that adam is created called .

two hundred three in bed that's from market. I we will get there later.

And I get .

heard before, I just couldn't tell where I heard .

rocket show.

but i'm going to jump in actually because there is an early headline that I ve shared on twitter that I found the reactions to, again, interesting. But IT was that in video this time was caught allegedly talking in slack about a scraping a whole bunch of youtube and netflix videos.

This one's funny, because in video was part of the pile that we talked about previously. But this is like that was under the guys of, oh, we just use an open source thing, they the pile store from you yes.

IT was in video, this n video, deciding what to pull to train their own models yeah. And the reactions that were interesting, we are kind of, again, along the same half the people are saying, well, that sucks that you've put them off the work to make this thing and it's just being stolen to be scrapped for AI to go profiling somewhere and in the other half are saying, well, you did make IT and put IT on the internet for free.

What do you expect you kind of just you don't oh anymore is kind of just out there. And I you and I think that I get I get that perspective because that's kind of what IT seems like on the surface. But there is a difference between because people are saying, what's the difference between me like looking at your video and being inspired by IT and and video is scraping the video and and train a model off of IT. There's a difference between profit and just like personally use. So that exists.

I think there's also like people watching IT on youtube are doing the appropriate things to pay for watching IT. They're watching at a premium count. IT is like going into the I think that kind of goal that people just don't realize they are some I paying youtube in that way. They just like it's a free thing but it's not and also isn't the new videos say there's scraping like one person's lifetime worth of watching videos.

I said eighty years of human video watching .

per day yes, that's what's the difference between that. Yeah yeah .

um they also scraped netflix.

which seems how much of netflix .

all of probably David I can just watch .

netlik the difference yeah IT was it's funny because .

this is a four four media article that this is all came out and they will doing some really good work reasons but they obtain some slack messages from an x employee that had left in video where they were directed by their director to scrape a list of different youtube channels and also a lot of netflix. They also suggested they should just scrape the entire .

discovery channel so we should just do all of .

the of the discovery gentle yeah. So apply ly, they use twenty to thirty virtual machines to download eighty years of video a day. Uh, they use these virtual machines which had rotating I P addresses so that the youtube downloader would not ban them. And like blocked there.

I P, do you think they have thirty netflix accounts?

I mean, that would be a small Price to pay.

I would be small Price to pay. And I bet they're still .

not doing they're probably still not doing.

So yeah, ah that's very efficient. Yeah, thirty computers that all that well, thirty virtual machines. Yeah.

that's well, I know well, I need to be fair and eighty years of human video washing a day time. But when you're running a lot of things in parallel, it's not actually that much. And they were downloading that much, right? The speech that IT takes to to thirty minute video .

could be a minute to on internet action of the dow fed into right.

Youtube does is all the time they are like people on our platform upload three thousand years of you a day, you know and it's like that's not all for one person.

Yeah most yeah .

um and I just think that these companies, they they they decide that they are not going to understand the difference between fair use or like what's public publicly available is what they like to say and actually free to use. Those are very different things.

Every time one of these companies gets asked where you get the data set from, the only to say publicly accessible videos like yeah youtube is publicly accessible that still breaks their terms of service. I don't know if google is not going to sue them because google is possibly they will not see are doing this all shaping youtube? Yeah yeah.

I I I mean, netflix is not. Netflix is not google and netlik is not making their own AI model. So I feel .

there will there be a next lix ai. But what IT does? Yes, no. I I imagine .

netflix s is just onna use open the air or something true.

So okay, stopped me if I said this last week, ready but start. I would like there to be someday at checkbox in youtube settings that says, allow my videos to be script for A I and compensate me for IT. Yeah, I think IT will I will take a while to get to that point because there are the loss you to have to happen.

The terms of service have to be updated the lot. I mean, the president hasn't actually been set yet. But once we get to that point, I think that that's fine if each individual video has a checkbox where you can actually enable or disable IT and IT will actually affect whether IT is scraped or not. Yeah, that would be nice.

It's just interesting to me because as soon as publications and newspapers and those kind of guys started getting scraped, there were lawsuits at the wazoo like new york times just added a .

more seven million.

seven million more alleged cases to their giant OpenAI lawsuit. And we haven't seen youtube or and netflix or anyone file any sort of losses against these companies.

I just weird, you like youtube is gonna a world one because we have to be represented by google, and google has to be the one making that. Clearly, none of there is no single youtube where I could fight this even at the highest level possible. And .

there is a lot, there is a apparently there's a lawsuit of a youtube only find this youtube creator suing for three ping youtube files, class action, lawd suit, over open the eyes, scrape of creator transcripts also. So they, just like when I had a decided to jump.

can this close session goes through? And we all make forty doors.

Seven years is represented by this law firm where we can link IT below, seeking jury trial and over five million doors damages for all youtube users and creators who data might swept in open a eyes, training only .

five .

million A I five million doll to change.

Yeah the thing I guess the difference is like they settled or do they actually lose and if they lose, they actually can't keep scraping IT or what, they just keep paying to paying a fine.

I know yeah IT doesn't matter that they can't keep scraping because they .

already can't scrape IT lead you, but they at least something also .

a quick correction. IT wasn't seven million cases. IT was seven million new works that they added to its complaint.

That's oh, sorry, sorry. Yes, that's what I just to be clear. Yes yeah I like I like individual incenses that's I like cases um yeah so I mean, I just find surprised, uh, they injected a data set called the H D V G one thirty m yeah, thanks.

A one hundred thirty million to videos in this data set. This data set explicitly says for academic cus only, like they used that anyway for commercial use. This isn't even like the apple case, where apple can say this is like a foundation model we are just using for, you know, science. They are actively putting this in their own universe, three world generator. There's self driving car systems and the digital human products.

And in, like they said, M, K, B, H, D. And link to the channel. yeah.

And we pride out .

of you that way for him.

But come on.

this person put like little description beside the channel. I said a uh black tailed studio with working channel of very professional videos. Uh you to dim flash in mazure uh house stories with great generation and they said, youtube com slash M K B H D tech product reviews super high quality. Appreciate you. Now stop.

Your mother would .

be disappointed. Yes, what would wait .

form description be IT would be? No, do, don't do .

about what? Not to .

sound like the chaotic podcast about .

technology, many of voices.

Anyway, many such cases, as elon would say of this happening, we we will potentially be covering this more and more because I feel like every single week we cover a new scraping scandal.

Speaking of andal.

that's not even that's not really a scandal.

Speaking of scrapping of of the animation looks like a script.

Yeah ah like snap.

snap. Okay, I O S, A teen has a new distraction control feature, which will let you remove an ad from a website with a tap. And IT has a super cool animation.

When IT does, IT will link IT in the shower notes. We will play on the screen for you here if you haven't seen IT. Yeah it's pretty sick. It's super over the top grade is and unnecessary and please keep doing that.

Audio listener is basically like you scroll down every single person can imagine the the web page with three breaking up every paragon. yes. And when IT comes over, that just has like a little IT highlights the box with the ad has a little button that this hide and you click IT and IT literally like rainbow pano snaps.

You do have to like click a button .

first and and IT works on anything.

I was playing with IT. I was like removing whole headlines and blocks of paragraph is party.

It's kind of like that like arc added that as an option yeah you like modify the website. You could like basically get completely get rid of the twitter blue prompt all that .

if you've ever like, played with, inspect H T, M L. And just I got rid of age series in your browser. That's basically what is the here's .

the question I have and why I think maybe this is the Better option than a lot of because we've talked a lot about how like A I summaries can screw up at revenue for websites because that's how they need to make money. This at least you see the add. So like if I doesn't grab you in the two seconds that you see IT and you click on IT, Normally, it's already made.

It's already done what he needs to do. And that website is made their money because most of that is just throw impressions, not do actual engagement. So by cooking, remove, all that doing is like I saw this, not interested, you still get my impression. But now, like i'm not more incline to cook in that just because it's staying on the screen. So yes, IT seems like these websites will still make the money off.

Yeah sometimes they're like the videos though they are like auto play or a play. And if IT plays its worth more and he doesn't, it's worthless.

Yeah, you can get rid of out to play videos too. You can basically get rid of like any element on the screen by doing this.

can get rid of the whole story, a recipe pages have before.

And yes, dell, the first seven years, I really good.

I think this is mainly to me like playing around with IT earlier today. I think it's more for like bad actors like you know when you go to like a website that is like seventeen different ads but like something you really want to read underneath yeah isn't I really for the one .

off add that your growling and it's like properly please yes that's this will be really bad for the really cheap ads that are supposed to look like other articles on the way you because now instead of that thing like random yeah story that's actually and I taking you somewhere else, oh high but yeah.

I think just highlights how bad a lot of the web has become and how of other experience it's become.

This reminds me of I don't know how long ago was. Maybe it's still there. Wasn't there reader a reader future in most mobile world is and still makes the experience way Better. So yeah, you come across a one page, it's got a ton of ads instead of having the stand snap animation or whatever, you just going to reader mode. And I just as you the .

thing you need to read.

you can still do that.

I'm pretty much every .

body OK keep images or I M yeah it's pretty. No, it's great. I use IT h um .

and it's like third point services that can do IT too if you want them to be like multiplatform. I want to read this article later yeah but i'll keep IT and read them on my ipad when I opened IT on my ipad .

like I think read wise reader does that pocket rain dropped I O but interestingly, if it's so, usually how these banner ads and stuff work is you when you're a site provider, you set an interval at which you want them to refresh and like switch to a different ad. And a lot of websites just don't have them refresh. But like worst actor websites, if they know that you're going to be on the page for a little bit, they have them the add switch out every and what happens with this is when you spend a snap went away, when IT refreshes, IT will show back up.

So IT just pops up and moves everything again. yes. So that's almost if it's about I like it's almost worse because .

not your age is so you know it's interesting though, if ever reminds me a lot of when apple added the ask APP not the track feature, which totally bone a facebook and like got rid of a lot of facebook s revenue. I think it's it's an insurgent spotts to be in because apple is not really A B to b company. They can just to be to see company so they do all this stuff that is very sort of like unabashedly like yeah this is brand to piss people off but this is, uh, good for your experience and that keep people on the iphone.

This is Better than just .

a and won get the b of page .

sales .

gonna paid yeah because I agree.

I mean, it's sucks that we live in this world where we have to have ads on everything that we do, but it's also what makes the internet free. IT just kind of got out of control. So unfortunately, they haven't figured no one's really figured out a model that works Better than that yet. So this is kind of the world we live in, but having tools like .

this is kind of enemy, ie. IT is and apple is greater. Animations really are thing there anyway has been .

doing like not very apple animations recently. Like I wouldn't have considered this an apple animation exactly. And everything in I O S eighteen is like this magic goal.

intense.

Give old school. H T C V.

even the action button imation, when you're going through the action butter menu IT .

doesn't look like an apple menu at all. R D, that Green, tiny line.

The drips.

Sm cooping down.

yeah.

Anyway.

yeah speaking of getting out of ads, I rote this together. Yeah, this is a month of old, but I just recognized the other day. And when I post in slack IT seems like a couple people didn't notice IT. But there's this new skipper or jump up ahead.

But and tube.

it's only if you have you where if there's I don't want to say if there is an ad, but if there is a moment in a youtube video that has like the peak.

what do you call .

part everything? Have a little button that a jump ahead and IT almost always lands on an .

in video and integration yeah, imagine what types of things people from, like a thirty second basis inside of the video, not on this.

Deo.

huge, huge attention. Spike. Maybe it's yeah maybe you too have some smart wave yeah just knowing that people are going to want to skip IT yeah.

The funny thing is youtube doesn't care because they have there before ads their mitral and their post roles. But in the video itself, youtube doesn't have to care about whether or not you watch.

if anything, you to care that, that isn't there because the less the more you put in that, the less IT or something like that.

That's a great point. Youtube intimidate to add a skip ad button 是 because that means you are happier on youtube tube， spending more time on youtube and are more likely to come back and probably watch more videos. Yeah, if you get that button, then you watch less ads and videos. I think you'll get to the video faster and see another youtube generally had faster.

If you want to go a step further, it's youtube ers make less money on hoping they might make lesson money on integrated ads because you can skip them now so you are more likely to do more mirrors in that youtube controlling .

yeah Better as a you are worse .

as a creator yeah I I hope that we don't get to the point where advertisers catch on. People just skip your thing anyway.

People always .

here's the other thing now everyone always .

skipped the integration of 是 被。 Company is our audience watches everything .

we they watched .

every minute of like when every podcast .

player has a skip ford button.

a plus forty .

five second button.

Why you think that i'm just I would pay. It's not always a thirty second ad, but I I modified my skin ford tn to be thirty seconds because it's around usually like thirty three.

three second bun.

I've got IT down to a science. It's three taps forward, one back .

one and then that I need some podcast player to come out with some sort of like A I this one thing, recognize, advertise through IT or I would literally there was a youtube premium for podcasts or you just never heard that I would literally pay like twenty.

The skip forward button is a different every time because he knows how long this is the .

end of yet A I probably it's any second point pocket get on IT. We really need on IT. I have the process description anyway.

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the company is the company.

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starting the company, the CEO actually worked at A D and fun fact, the same person also used to bus tables at Dennis, what's AMD A M D? yeah. The jeep .

company company. A.

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recording late today because there was a .

lot have not let up for Davida. That's that's .

a real word.

one you have the original xbox use .

the graphics chip from this company, which had a floating point performance of seven point three g flops if that helps kind of .

flops doesn't help that all. But I still context clues started in a garage. But anything feels a concept I that the company, I thought that too.

But everywhere I was googling this, that story kept popping. So I asme .

it's like my reason, if I don't know the story, I won't help .

me to guess by knowing .

that .

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I walk back, uh, obviously, next week is the made by google event where we're going to get to see the new pixel, know that stuff. But for some reason, uh, one week prior, they decided to announce .

a bunch of other google .

hardware. I think .

those teams didn't talk to each other anyway. What we're seeing this week is the new google T V streamer for k, which is sort of like a set top box is set of their reaction to the apple T V box. Uh, we are also seeing the new nest learning thermostat.

J so pretty ten years in the making, it's been twelve years. Sce, the original next thermal and the last, the ten three came out ten years ago, which is crazy. That's wow.

Yeah uh and then also we got, uh, a new temperatures sensor for the thermostat that comes up the thermostat now. And we also got some looks into the future of google home. Um so I went to a briefing in the city about a week ago, and this is what's new. Okay, we can start with the T, V streamer for can I have thoughts .

on all these because I A version of all these productive yeah.

you will have more thoughts to me because I don't.

I only use one. I tell how they make me feel. I like.

yeah. So the the T, V streamer or four k looks like a little step tob x IT looks nice. It's kind of that plush look that google is kind of now going for most of their hardware looks very so much like the next wifi pro. All that kind of stuff, ninety nine dollars. Unfortunately, I have to say that IT is replacing the first product that google ever sold.

You don't with the nexus key.

Like forty one.

it's replacing .

the chrome cast. The crime cast is end of life yeah of life and this is we're placing IT replacing and you know weird but the grom cast is only like a dollar. This dreamer is .

a time because it's .

a couple of years ago.

I think I was when they came out with the crown cast with google TV, right? And that was that was like a reimagining of the room cast because I gave you the smart TV interface of google T, V, which had been totally redone. IT was the new android T, V, but I had a remote control.

This is what I have now. Yes, you basically felt like you, you would get with an apple T, V. But I was still the don gal instead of being a set top box. So now we've got rid of, I know, I agree, they ve got rid of the dongle.

One of the best part like chrome store is amazing. And then they're like, hey, you do not just you can still use your phone if you want, but now get a remote and like also they just have a great U I. And bringing all of the your different like shows and stuff through all your different subscriptions together on one screen. It's generally .

Better than most smart T V. Like you. Awesome, awesome but yeah, I don't know. I guess they wanted to add more like Brown to IT.

So as a twenty two percent faster CPU twice the RAM three, two gigs of storage. This is also obviously not something you generally think about when you think about your streamer player. But apparently they said in the future, they want to allow for like four streams of sports at once. And apparently doing that they need more band with.

i'll give them that. Yeah, like.

cool.

Where would I? How would I do that?

Yeah, I guess all the dreams would have to be coming from different.

Well, something they had forms will no, because a because in youtube, you can technically do multiple videos, the same youtube v, youtube T V regular youtube, that kind of stuff. They also might let you i'm not sure about this. They might let you watch different platforms at the same time. We should be part of brain. I would like to know from the audience how many people actually watch multiple things at the time.

thinking, like to watch T, V. Can I put blue and an f one race in the bottom corner?

And just like I just picture in picture, yeah.

does I have that already .

with two totally .

separate services?

Why watch something?

I also I hocking and .

one on at the same time. And I.

yeah, that's true moto sport. So so IT has IT has either net. IT has each my two, that one also you now has a button on the back that you can press and IT will ring the remote um which has got nice.

So the room has a little mike. The remote is also redesigned. IT is now longer. They have gotten rid of the volume button on the side, add them to the top ah and they also has like a rib ed bottom. So that's like easier to hold and also stays stable more easily.

There is also a remap able button on IT that you can use to basically bring up whatever you want on google T, V and action button. It's sort of a action button. I also noticed that I was comparing the conquest with google T, V to the new T, V streamer remote.

They replaced the button, the assistant button, because there was a google assistant button yeah, on the logo. They replaced that with just a microphone. And my .

career and my like.

you know, we've talked about this a lot. Like what are they going to do with assistant? Because they brought up they brought up the google assistant multiple times during this briefing.

Yeah, they said they are making updates to the assistant and I asked them about this and they basically said we made IT a microphone because in the context of your T, V, people don't think about the make being the google assistant. They think I just need to talk to my T, V. Apparently people are just Normal ized now to talking .

to their technology with a microphone fair. Most T, V remotes now.

a logo kind of to because in youtube you a search voice, you have to click button and then hold the mike button under a more. So I could see where the confusion between mike button and youtube burb, disney plus or whatever that doesn't core relate to google assistant. You need to see them like exactly.

You can still do all the google assistance stuff that you could do before. But but now I just to make button, they remap up a button. Um they now have a new section in google TV that can show all of your google home stuff.

So you can see your nest camps, you can see views from your next camp. You can like, see all the lights and you can like turn and on and off your lights in your nest thermostat. Ff, um so it's all basically into graded into one application, which is pretty nice.

He was already a really nice interface. I think one of the best ones. Um I really dislike the apple TV interface. I think that google is a way Better and yeah they made IT Better. Uh what's also nice about IT is IT has matter over thread.

So IT can be a thread border router, which we did a whole episode on matter which you can go watch if you want to learn more about that. But effectively, if you want to use matter, you need to have a thread border router somewhere in your house, which generally only more expensive products have. Um so having one in the living room is really nice because it's like kind of a central space to the rest of your house.

nice. Ah so that's convenient. They also said that they updated google T V with geri um which I had do you know I I felt confused about and also I feel like they're trying to stick gi and anything that they can. They say that the uses germany to make A I powered recommendations for suggestions which is just suggestions that they are they made you but I guess Better apparently a overviews about shows and movies now that are generated by A I wish to me just says we fired all the people that did that um which is that overview .

is just like it's not going to literally tell me what happens.

Is that no to just the description of the .

movie which people used to make how prove that's true?

That is yeah it's like Harry potter sex jumper. Yes, you don't believe. okay. Uh and the other thing that they were really excited about, that I just wanted to cry is a ambient mode can still show your photos that are important to you can also now show general ice screen savers yeah um so that's basically that a lot of people are very excited about IT because um they wanted to make IT look nice because they didn't want the radio signals to get interfered with like at the house I lived that with microfiber a few years ago.

We had one of the chrome test, but I was plugged into like a set top box thing under a console. And IT would sometimes have networking problems because with a lot of metal in there. So their whole thing was like, we want to get IT onto the top of your councils so that IT is not obstructed by anything. So that's why they made IT look nicer.

But that was my question. They did a bad job. The like quick little announcement of IT was like, no more hanging dangles.

Now you have this nice. I was like, the hanging dangle was behind my T, V. I I don't .

was hanging back. Yeah, that's kind of IT for that. Um what's your take, mark as since you're .

city of all my take as I probably won't be getting one like I am happy with the google T, V thing. I now it's pretty quick. I'm sure being faster, maybe being able to do multiple streams will be fun and nice, but I don't really think I might need to do that. So I guess, yeah, I guess i'm good.

yeah. I think it's for people that I want to buy some sort of smart T V player because yeah, honestly, when you buy A T V, same song, G, T, C, R, whatever they have, like a bunch of different apps in the U I sucks and the controller sucks. And I would prefer to just use the google. It's like a spec bump of old basically, basically um and honestly, they said that most of the speak up grades were not for anything that they need right now, but for things that they potentially .

want to do in that we were talking about to see the other day because .

IT basic means that we have two remotes now wall.

because you still to have the remote for the T V, but you would program that to now control your T V right?

H but that would have to be the power butter can control your T, V over .

h that that R C E.

like that. Only problem is.

is my sound barkers do that. So now, so now, do I run into that problem of either needing to remote or going through the H D M I D?

Or and I think IT just talks directly to this.

Well, but i'm but then I would need to still have a remote that's turning my T V. On because I can get control through hmi. Yeah, yeah.

So so term's, yeah.

Bring back harmony.

Hon.

we're getting back to the point like you go to your friends house in the coffee table. I just said for my parents this .

past weekend and I said that .

on the link room and I go to just like turn on the TV to watch you use hub and there's like four different remotes. And i'm trying all of them trying to figure out which one IT is. I think in the world .

we live in three remotes. I have the apple T V remote, the crop caster mote and A T V remote. And get different enough.

That doesn't bother you.

No.

I like, I like the crime cast U I Better than my sams U I, but I don't want to use two remote, so i'd rather just suffer to the same uni.

Yeah, I think I cast turns the T.

V on enough and you have your sample through .

and IT controls the number. They all ik, yes, I think ik and IT talks through your T V to the sum. So I think if I know if I sit down knowing i'm going to do a chrome cast thing, I can just pick up the chrome castro and do everything on that remote.

I'm ninety nine percent because as a power, but on the remote there's volume bones. On the remote they all work. And then obviously the U I in .

the current and the value buttons aren't that remote controls. The yeah you got .

to fuses a lot. I don't have a, so I don't know.

You may have saw me on this. The funny thing is that they want this to not be hidden in. And I if I ever get this, that would be, you could say how much? Yeah, one hundred.

But there is the cool button to find the remote. You can also say, hag, into your phone or find my remote and IT, which is go so yeah, that's nice. Um I think that thing that most people can be excited about though is the new nest learning thermostat because and I just have check myself, IT is indeed been nine years, not ten there.

I'm sorry, hans. L A.

nine years since the last generation, the gene three, now is the gene four. This is the first major design change in the next learning thermostat. Basically senses inception. Uh, even the gene for the time looked really nice if you compare this to a lot of like honeywell or standard thermostats, even the gene looks at advanced. But the genre, they basically said they wanted to make a look like a giant pixel, watch like a pixel.

Yeah, they said that IT kind does in a sort of like bears off the call thing about IT is IT does have bezzle, but you can't really notice because they said they use multiple layers of glass and film to sort of kind of refuse the bezzle. So you can see IT really at all yes, which is nice. Yes, how far off of the .

world does this go?

Um not like a time. It's .

probably no.

no, no. That was just a stand .

to like significant shadow casting read maybe IT uses the .

same mount as the last one.

That's really good to know because I have mounts already and like a toner places already do. And I don't know that there's any real reason. Is there a reason to upgrade if you already have in us to set? Or yes, again.

just kind of like a spec upgrade. In my opinion, there are many reasons to be upgrade. what? okay.

So has a sixty percent bigger screen to you. You probably don't care about that. But IT does like nice.

IT can. Okay, there are so many features of this. I wrote, done so many things.

Mars not caring about a bigger screen, needs to go down in the well.

I okay, I guess the in the home, i'm fairly I don't like the the tech to be built into the home because the tech inside the home gets up great all the time like my computer, my ipad, my phone. They get changed at all the time. The tech that people build in their houses, I always find, like you ever seen, was like a million doors mentioned.

Things really like all, there's an ipad on the wall and controls the shades. And in three years are like this is all that our house now a boat into the wall. I don't want to tack in the home to be focus.

So the mile and more like out of the way the tech is, the Better the bigger screen. sure. But like you, I wouldn't just does a .

lot of different things ah, that will actually save you a lot of energy cost for you IT doesn't matter because you so I guess .

down to save energy.

Yeah okay. So he he actually uses soli, which for those that don't remember soly was something in the pixel four that they actually had first shown off in like twenty twelve, which is like superfine rate. Are that in all there showing off of IT? They could detect like how many cards were in a deck when you like just put a deck of cards on the table.

Was that precise. Then they put IT in the pixel four. And IT was really bad, awful.

really awful .

literal do water. They had already reduced the battery size in the pixel four from the pixel. And like the physical batch size, and then solely just drained, is so bad. The only things you could do with that because the U. S.

Government was like, uh, well, you can't really use all the capabilities of rather you can only use like certain parts of IT or you'd wave your hand over IT to change songs on spotify, whatever. And IT never even worked. There's a video of adami and central park trying to film a fix of four review for injured authority.

And for fifteen minutes I was just doing this on a rock in central park. And IT wasn't working core memory. IT was bad. So he did two things for me.

I would be like, on of a wireless charger next to my keyboard at work. And I type, and i'd hit escape, and I would think I was reaching for IT. And then I would light the screen up and like, why is that letting up? And then I would face me, i'm reaching for the talk. My drivers drive skip songs like 这个。

Every time you reach your frie. IT gives aside OK.

but IT uses. So the previous next year that had a motion sensor. But this actually has the radar. So has this feature called dynamic foresight and because the display is a lot bigger, IT shows you different amy information depending on how close you are to IT when you're .

looking ah right yes interest because right now I have to walk up to and look at IT obvious and it's like, okay, here's the temperature yeah you can be like .

across the room and know that you're looking at IT, but I will just show you just the turing big bold numbers. But if you're closer to IT, the numbers will be smaller. It'll show extra information around IT because that knows your close enough to see the detail.

That's nice, which is very cool. IT also knows what the weather is like outside because of like connected wifi. IT will show animations that you know it's gonna rain, whatever.

But IT has all of these different energy savings features like, uh, if you want your house to always be a certain temperature, it'll account for how hot the weather outside is going to make your house naturally passively or how cool the weather outside is going to make your house passively, right? So like won't use amount of energy over the course of the day, because he knows all at this time of the day, it's gonna get this much hot. So I only have to put this much energy into heating them.

Not very smart.

That is really interesting. Also, things like, if you like, you have to be a certain temperature when you come home, when you leave the house, IT was R, R ideal temperature. And instead of, you know, just completely turning off your cooling system, and then IT gets really cold while you're gone.

And then when you're on your way home, IT has to heat IT all the way back up. IT will lower the temperature a little bit. But because IT uses more energy to heat all the way back up from being completely off, then IT is to just like leave IT on a little bit.

It'll leave IT on a little bit. Uh IT has dynamic um what is IT called when you basically a ventilation so when you ventilate your house, generally you have air coming in from the outside and it's sort of like passes through. But if IT knows that the AQI is high, IT won't venta at certain times. If you're in a certain locations.

I could see mark as being sold on this in real time.

These are all like nice thing. It's all nice to have. Yes.

I don't like upgradeable yeah things. I mean.

I think you will save you energy, which I think is kind of worth IT over time.

Judging on how my next meeting right now saves .

me energy is not good o because I never actually .

and I ve really .

dialed my next stuff um to the point where I like I basically like manually built all my schedule every day where like when I leave IT goes up to seventy eight when I come home at roughly the same time it's going back to seventy three and like it's kind of said already.

I don't want to do real. Is that far but is changing temperatures in the next term? S that demos confusing thing possible, not like one thing, but like changing .

schedules and stuff. Like I in .

the on on the .

APP apps.

not get for one. IT will change temperatures, drag IT to the day, then drag IT to the time, then drag IT to the temperature is like.

I don't even know you talking.

The next step is the next step. Let's go. So the the nest that started.

I just want you it's not was gonna a question. So why we're figuring this out, maybe we can discuss this is how long to a google teaches the next name gosh.

probably I know. I mean, they dished the I feeling .

that has really good branding.

They changed like google wifi to next wifi. They google home to .

the schedule .

of what my house schedule like tomorrow. I don't even know if you're doing this .

is a great radio guys.

What is that that data point that I can change temperature or time. This looks .

like one of you like a schedule kind of .

crazy to talk to people .

who live in houses because like I am not limited house like fifteen years and I been able to use any of this stuff, literally.

My temperatures is whatever my landor's decided.

Yeah, IT is probably .

easier to change. This is.

this is really bad. it's.

Confusing and like half the time clear. I just like we go out grocery shopping and the whole like, well, they are never coming back. I just turn everything and then you get home and it's sweltering IT.

I did turn off the the like smart phone tracking feature because that I thought that would be such a good idea and I just never worked to on. It's basically like IT knows where your phone is. So if your phone is home and knows your home and so if you leave because oh, you're away, time to like turn things into energy service mode and when you come home, goes all you're back and let me warm IT up for you I thought like intuitive ly, that would .

make a lot of sense that would work well IT doesn't no, it's like, oh, your back to where .

your house IT takes to cool think was maybe gona hook me is there is a new temperature sensor? Yeah, okay, I have the temperature sensors because one of my thermostats is on a wall next to a window so the sun is always shining on IT always thinks it's eighty degrees when it's not. Why do you have IT there? Well, that's just where the famous that is. So I got a temperature sensor to yet, like in the middle of the room, yeah, which is where I should think to adjust the temperature. And there are the most pinny gadgets I have ever owned.

Are they just like little plastic, little plastic x with like a soft touch .

top you can screw, you get a real bad inside. Have gone through like seven or eight of them. Half of them have broken, half of them I couldn't get to connect.

They would work through like a couple months and and disconnect and never reconnect there. There are some of the finite st gadgets in my life. So if they, if they fix that, that's enough for me. Okay, to.

Separate temperature center. There is a temperature center puck that I know. I think I was built .

into the one business to. Yes, there's another one.

But if your thermo is in a place where it's not really ideal and you can buy a separate temperature sensor and pair to the and just I in the basement, like it's in the back corner and I I want the middle of the basement to be where IT has the temperature sensors. So I put IT in on the table middle basement, and that seems to work OK until IT disconnects every six months and and explodes.

Yeah, yeah. So they made a new one. And IT comes with, becomes with one of one of them.

Now comes with one. And you can buy them separately. And also in a three pack .

is IT backwards compatible.

I don't know .

about that .

yeah ah OK, something else that's quite interesting is there is a special wire and all the electricians out there going to murder me over this and i'm sorry because I don't know anything about wiring, but they said google's words there is a special sea wire that basically is needed for most smart home like smart thermos dats. And a lot of homes, especially older homes, don't have the wire. Um but apparently google did some sort of magic with the voltages and the electricity running through the others res that they're able to do everything without the sea wire. God.

I wish I so I can explain exactly what's happening.

but I can explain that I am one of the people with the problem that that would be solving. So for me and I believe the reason this is, is because my ac unit and my thermos that can control my heat, because my A C unit is a condenser with air and my heat is oil through baseboard. So there are two totally separate systems that just happened to not be connected yeah um so I think because of that, the one singular A C because I have no zones.

I just have a big one, huge zone. IT was just super basic wires in IT. And because of that, I can if you want to do the like, motion tracking and the fact that IT takes more energy for the actual unit itself, and I don't want to charge IT all the time, I have to turn all of those things off and barely just get enough energy through the wires that actually are connecting because those wires are pretty much just there. Do you control the contents or and the air controller OK? So i'm assuming what that is, is that would let me use the super basic wires because when you set IT all up I C net and the energy yeah .

and like I .

don't care about motion tracking and enough to have an electrician comment and run a new wire for that yeah so that would let me actually be able to use so yeah they said .

most people do not have to use swear if you do have to use IT for some reason they have an adapter that i'll make IT work that they will send you nice apparently so um yeah comes in three colors, polish silver polished up syrian and polish gold. They all wait, very nice. There's no black sitting.

IT almost doesn't even .

matter. Yes, it's on .

the side. Yeah so IT doesn't matter as much but comes over whether .

animations that play I I don't know what I don't I wanted to rain inside and the same time yeah ah is now the cobo in the .

battery is one hundred percent recycled is just good SHE has to do leather yep thanks .

to eliza .

for pressure in google through tim cook .

um and also .

zero plastic in the packaging which is also good. Google is of doing that a lot now so yeah that's the new nest learning thermos and four is two hundred and seventy nine dollars in the united states and three hundred and seventy dollars in canada, which seems awful because i'm pretty sure the U. S. Exchange rate in canada is also really bad right now.

What is that? That's three hundred .

canadian canadian k, which I think is even worse, but i'm not sure. Uh yeah, so IT is if you want the temperature sensor, it's thirty nine, ninety nine, four one but IT comes with IT or ninety nine, nine.

four three 喂， OK comes you buy a thermal that you get one temperature center for free yes. If you want one more temperature sensor that's thirty nine, ninety nine yeah and one three pack. It's one hundred hundred locks.

canadian exchange almost exact .

OK never mind. Ah yeah so that was that. And then they also talked to me a bit about the future of google home, which apparently people that subscribe to neaw are are going to have early cess to um mostly german stuff. Google says they know that you get way too many notifications from your nest cameras, which you guys probably do.

I do never there all .

turned off yeah uh, now german I will identify what's actually important, they say, and surface the ones that they say are actually important.

If this works, this should be the greatest achievement of all time. Agree, because none of them work right now. They're all just like, here's a leaf blowing notification. Here's a car dragged by notice shadow. It's just all its constant that .

never go and it's just like motion, motion, motion like, I know the tree is blowing away. You don't need .

to tell me everything still there. Yeah yeah. You can also ask german I questions, like, did the kids leave the bikes in the driveway? And IT will pull the appropriate .

footage because it's.

oh, no. So it's looking, so I can tell by looking at the footage, what's happening. If you ask question about foot, if OK i'm gonna like lane.

did you leave your bike in the drive? right? no. Ask google.

Ask.

are people going to be creeped out by that? Is their home security footage already? Think the google assistant about the things that happening are home security footage, but is your home IT is your home. But it's google looking at the footage in people's brains, in people's brains. Yeah, that's what's happening.

I just want to point out again that if approach, the google will just hand over the footage to the police. So doesn't need to be an A I look.

I may be, this is all happening already, isn't you? And yeah, now is A I. Well, I really have the cameras.

So I was just say.

what if the kids did put the bikes in the driveway, but then they later moved IT is that just going to pull the bikes being in the driveway? And then you'll .

go real time well.

goes through the food tage you have so I don't know. Oh.

IT might track like latest to .

yeah I know. And then uh, you can also now ask gemini to create automation for you in google home so that you guys know about the automation features in google home. They added like editor for IT, like for advanced users to like really go hard core on the animation, on the automation.

I just have a morning one. yeah. So now apparently you can ask gina to create certain nations based on fairly complex scenarios, which is nice.

I think it's on school.

Yeah.

wait. But how would I be like watching me over the last week?

And now you just, hey, make an automation for when I leave the home because of my emotion sensor, turned on all the lights in the kitchen and turn off the next Thomas.

When I wake up in the morning, I want to hear the news and the living room likes to be turned on. Yeah.

so just can't be in conversation with your technology. If that works, we see uh, they also have new google assistance updates, which again, i'm like i'm confused, you're asking germany but also you have new assistance updates, I don't know, says using german I models to make google assistant experience feel more natural uh, there will be an updated voice model being pushed out for instant later this year.

All right, can you can you just just figure this out, please? Like just I don't I don't understand why they had to remove google system to germany. I when the model is named gini IT just confuses people because you don't know if you're talking about the games.

the model or geri, the new assistance .

I don't even know you're talking .

about right now.

Good still of assistant .

google assistance on google home stuff is still google assistant. But then you also have gamine on your phone. They're using gamine models to power the updated google .

assistant .

o because gi models are the models and there's also a and which is competing with.

The one update I would love to have is to permanently shut off the hey, next time try asking, yeah, i've been .

used to also, if you went a morning before, I can talk about the news to you every single day, just asked me, hey, it's like, oh my god, why?

Why can needy friend?

why? okay. And then also speaking of google, uh, this is pretty big news. This week, a judge ruled in the google anti trust trial that google is the officially exercising monopoly powers and search. Under undersize just force to that .

have been waiting an hour to do .

that r bad big boobs bigger than that sound by IT um which is a pretty big deal. They were found to a violated section two of the sherman act, which is a monopoly act from a very long time ago, which makes IT unlawful ful for any person to monopolize or attempt to monopolize or combined or conspire with any other person or persons to monopolize any part of the trade or commerce among the several states or with foreign tions that's the the year reject.

Can you really .

again and now um yeah so basically they are saying there is no other option in the search market and that search has got a lot worse, which is very true .

yeah they I think one of the things they references was which we also find some more information. We already know that in twenty twenty two google paid apple around twenty billion dollars to be the default for safety and that came up in the case is being like how is any other competitors supposed to have money like that on hand to compete um but apparently somebody accidentally slipped and said, um give out .

the .

percentage of what google is paying. Apple, no. Apple, yeah. Thank apple. So apple is getting thirty six percent of ad revenue through google.

Certain yes.

to be the title, to be the table. yes.

So that's well, that's a lot that has .

a lot of and apple said that was a long number.

I saw somewhere that he was like roughly twenty percent of apples .

services business. No IT, that's crazy. Which means yeah, it's like a huge number for its thirty thirty percent of apple's .

Operating profit. So google and apple like best .

brows yeah yeah sounds yes, they do apply hanging out with each other. Um what's really weird about this and doesn't really add up you know is that I dq who is uh works for apple. You may know he testified, we let me just double check IT was at q IT was somebody? yes.

okay. What I find really weird and doesn't really add up is that edu from apple testified and said there is no Price that microsoft could ever pay that would make apple make being the default or changes the, which is boat, the sick burn, ever. But also, if that is the case, and google is the only one they would use, then why is google paying them twenty billion dollars? They do IT for .

freeze is paying. And there is no world where they use .

microsoft evicted era y theory ahead mics here. Here theory is that apple's surch engine is ready, and the apple has decided that they would cost them because they apparently they did an analysis of how much IT would cost apple to spin up their own competitive search engine. And IT was about twenty billion dollars .

to be instance.

You went a coincidence to be competitive with google. And I think the apple just things like a being a arch change comes out of complexity. You're turning into A B to c company stead strictly being A B to uh sorry, B2B com pany and sav e str ictly bei ng AB t o c c om pany. Uh, and so let's just like google based to one billion dollars, you know it's easier that way. So my theory is that apples like ready and google is paying them in order to stay a monopoly because literally night, if google press, if apple press the button and was like we now have a search tension in the default search on every apple product through safety, is apples are changing. There will be insane traffic dump from for google.

Yeah.

yeah, that's fair. yeah. Another interesting tidbit, another interesting little bit that uh, got discovered through discovery was that apple rolled out this feature called suggestions in spotlight a long time ago, which is basically when you're searching in spotlight on your iphone and you searched like what brack obama's age or something, I will a lot of the time I just automatically give you the answer or like search IT for you. And when they rolled that out, google saw a ten to fifteen percent query loss through google on iphones and which was up to ten percent of the safe I revenue profit at the time. And so as part of their twenty sixteen deal that they made with apple, apple had to promise to never make that product Better, which is like, that's the most empty trust thing you could possibly think of, right?

Yeah, yeah. They're like, oh.

our competitor made this too good. We'll just pay you off to not make IT Better so that we're still the only game in town. Yeah.

I was. You would .

pay us me to make sure .

that I never get Better in my job. Yeah so yeah. Ah very fun.

The judge said, maybe, A, I searches the future, but the future is not here yet, at least not in the way that's relevant to anti trust law. A, I may someday fundamentally alter search, but not any time soon. And like for me, that's like so much .

for welcome to the gamer A D .

IT makes judge private like all the stuff that was going on as well.

I would hope so. Yes, I can get over the line. There's no amount of money can gave me.

The way same mom.

there's nothing you could do .

to let me .

hang out with nick.

Okay, one last thing that I think he was a major thing um in this trial google did a survey in twenty twenty that's like study that they paid a lot of money for that about what would happen and how much money they would lose if they made google search significantly worse, if they just like made the product a lot worse over time, how much traffic they would lose. And the result of the study was that they would basically not lose any money or any revenue or any traffic that .

truck because since twenty, twenty, it's become terrible.

Yeah and so that basically says like, oh, hm, we can just like like make the experience way worse for our users while making ourselves way more money. I feel like the only reason that they feel confident enough to roll out A I overviews and just not care that is terrible, is that they know that ninety five percent of people are still going to use google every single day.

Where are .

they to be?

Yeah, so pretty in there is a really good .

verge article .

that actually like points out a lot of the most insane things that happened in discovery during this trial. So I recommend going in reading that where you so we will link that in the shower notes. But yet it's pretty deal. They are officially when apply in search and there is no there's nothing that's happening yet because they discovered that. But they said within three to four months, they will come to some decision and IT could go as far as google being forced to sell off parts of its search business, which is crazy like sell off ads senses a separate thing or something like that. There are laws.

There are good to know, get to know. Well, we should take a hook break before we do that, though, adam, he is to the trivia.

Question number two. So after eleven years, the chrome cast is dead. The chrome cast, as IT turns out, was not the first .

product that google ever made. Google negative .

one IT was. However, IT launched a long side of very popular tablet. What OS version was that tablet running at launch is twenty two questions .

are .

fun when there's multiple levels. I don't know.

There's really only one question. I just wanted .

to lay your IT in a bunch of things that would confusing. Can I give you?

Never give you? Well, well.

okay. Anyway, think about that. And at the end, we'll right back.

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the lyrics of a song inspired by a OK a person, not the food.

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this segment is called two out of three ain't bed okay on the song. So every week when we pick things to talk about, there are always a few new stories and fun things that kind of slip through the cracks just because we trying to hit the big topics. Uh, but I came up with this little segment to give us a chance to cover some of them.

I'm going to explain a few quick stories to you, and I need you guys to decide if it's a good idea or a bad idea. OK, the theory behind the name is that because there are three of you, there should never be a tie. There will always be something that see there a good idea .

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version for some reason.

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right? That's one for good idea. And jw markets.

just because I love .

IT doesn't mean it's a good idea. I I A bunch. This is basically a special edition thing, and everyone always buy the special edition things. I am more compelled to buy this than I was to buy the original version. I can personally .

deny this. I have to say, good idea. And that .

field that like going to a generate.

I love when tech companies take their products and take photos of them like in the grass, on the rock, there's something clear.

Yeah well, this makes sense to .

be on a right. What's funny is that during the interview with David erick in the cofounder that we had on a special way for me, so go back and listen to, I asked him, because this is going to be an E. P.

series. And I asked him, are they going to be more of these? And he said, yes, with like a smirk. This is not .

what I was a question.

I love that the fun is like old english yeah ah .

and some of the things .

on IT but even the digital fund inside that changes is like alarm clock ask.

But they are also selling a final for two ninety definitely to that expensive for no I so much.

Why is this a .

bad idea? Too much fair. And now you into rena's fares.

i'm particular up.

Sure there's you look with every product is a good idea for someone. I just think there's not enough for those people for this one.

Alright.

one hundred dollar metal vote bag Carry if you want to buy the shipping .

is sixteen dollars on the twenty two dollar product .

comes by Carrier pigeon.

Alright, well, the consensus. Good idea.

Yes, I would love to put this on my desk and not know how is how does that?

Yeah, that's right. Three hundred dollars.

the same Price as the original E. P.

Went there. I just want to return that we should let the swedish do anything, anything.

All right. The second thing is amazon's AI podcast picker that a so we always talk about let me let me weigh the we always talk about how podcast discover ability is bad. And that's one of the reasons we throw IT on youtube because it's a discovery engine.

Amazon music launched an A I feature that will let that will help you find new episodes based on topics mentioned in the episode. So quote to suggest relevant topic tags, podcast transcripts and descriptions are analyzed by AI alongside human review to identify key topics that are discussed in a particular episode. So using A I for podcast discovery, good idea or bad idea?

And .

first.

IT is a good idea specifically .

to .

good idea. I have .

a question.

I have an answer. Does IT only .

serve you different episodes of that same podcast? Or does that give you .

different podcast, different podcast and different episodes? Is good idea.

So we got one good idea. So what i'm assuming your getting at is the idea is great, but the product .

person .

doing IT maybe isn't.

Yeah, mary may not be good. Mayor may not workable, mary may not actually follow through, but that's good idea. This is just for the idea. Yeah.

I like the idea. Yes, I like any idea that hopes podcast discover ability.

But my question is, how is this different from just google in the word, but like in in the in the the the sample that IT shows, it's the sufficient dca subjects, the duality of caffeine. And then the topics that IT shows that you can then search for more podcast is caine, which is obvious coffee dobin. I think what if I just searched those terms.

wouldn't show me podcast anyway. You might find like a list .

that someone wrote on a website in the title, but a pocket search just sucks so bad. And I feel like whatever time finding this work, this is actually pulling from the content. And also not just that, but knowing the content of what IT is like. So research coffee IT doesn't just mean they said coffee and the transcribe once, but like topic is actually this is an sumption OK way.

But considering I don't think that diminishes the experience.

I think it's a good idea.

Oh, so all good ideas OK. I never thought that .

amazon will .

be a good yeah.

we need to try IT.

alright, so good idea. Next is the ford bronco and musing e bike thingy. Yeah, ford is clubbing with n plus and e bike company to release a bronc and musing e bike.

They have rear hub motors that put out max seven hundred and fifty watts of power and eight eighty five nanometers of talk. I don't even know that is meters, new meters. Thank you. The broker will be rugged ged for alterraun and has a dull suspension system that are calling goat, which stands for, goes over any type of terrain .

and goes over any terrain.

Yeah, I think .

altering.

yes.

But then how will they get the goat?

And they needed to be called goat.

Yeah, it's got to be called goat. This thing cost forty five hundred dollars, and the musty a bike will cost four thousand dollars. And there will also be a sixty of anniversary edition that will be sold exclusively at four dealers. But my question, e bike versions of popular cars, good idea or bad idea?

Number forty five hundred dollars .

e bike version's public. I'm definitely leaning towards bad idea here or just not a good idea. No different.

There's nothing wrong. Yes, right.

There's no danger here. That's not a good idea.

That's a great point. It's like it's not a good ideas, not necessarily that idea.

Yeah.

yeah, I here's my biggest question about this. If they're basing IT off of old card, I would assume the majority of people who are very nostalgic about those old cars might not want to be traveling at thirty miles an hour on a bike anymore because they are a bit older and IT doesn't feel the safest. I'm not saying all people .

can ride bikes. I see a lot of people, you like spending .

forty five hundred dollars on a bike. Well, here's a more dangerous and e bike.

Here's a counterpoint porches. E bike is ten thousand. Seven hundred dollars is .

a good deal.

Then my take is that there are a bunch of White label e bike brands that go to car manufacturer and say want to make a tunnel money and then they just put the name on IT and then they don't make .

a and then they .

don't because nobody buys that. I've literally never seen anyone with one of these yeah.

I double you ever want.

I mean, apparently there's the there's the a gosh polestar .

by state .

out there.

So that's a good idea.

No, IT is terrible. I love you so much.

I'm going to say bad idea because I don't think they're .

going to sell any okay. Yeah.

i'm also going say bad idea even though the color matching paint is kind of cool, what they did with the red bike and the red old for that, I think that's about pretty cool but about.

i'll go, good idea because IT IT looks nice. IT was well designed. And if you're okay with paying a bunch of extra money from install giant looks on the bike. I don't see any reason not to get .

this except that I think the company is going to spend more money on making these and they're going actually sell.

I lose at any money on good idea, 皮卡丘。

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I think.

I and .

I speed .

of original .

I miles, but lacks .

threat also, it's only.

interesting.

I feel bad that I said, all people can ride bikes.

You can. You could do anything .

I IT rather done.

A junior was on kids.

You can do anything.

I never know when that seems from robot in a junior was spotted on a highly David and e bike.

See, it's cool. He's like.

forty is a push.

a push one. He was on a porch. E bike.

ten thousand, seven .

hundred .

dollars for the back.

Well, look, as you said, we have .

some .

good.

He eventually got you to watch her two years, I don't feel.

but the dash might be .

longer .

than her cking.

Yeah, i'm not as certified to get you off in to me.

Tally fine. Tally fine. Well, we should try view one last time. Let's go at end. I I cover my second answer because I remember the first thing I do.

I write quick update on the score. David, fifteen under sixteen?

Yeah, your type. no.

You said the same thing last week when I went to school.

I in markets .

with fifteen .

I I .

yeah by one point.

I so I said.

you know what of taking .

your point away.

you were but then you've got ahead.

Question one k gonna. Read you three hints. You tell me what company i'm talking about.

So this company was started by three men in a Dennis number two. Before starting the company, the C. E. O actually worked at AMD. And fun fact, the same person actually used to bus tables at Dennis, really like Dennis number three. The original x box use a graphics chip from this company, which had a floating point performance of seven point three gift ops.

Original experts.

what's the .

complain .

that older than the original experts?

I feel like .

I might be right. I think.

guys, another hint, IT is worth over a trillion dollars right now.

This company, really, really, we are trillion significantly hours .

down where he previously worked to the md, oh.

shoot this. So i'm so between .

two and if it's the other one and to be so that someone else, what?

Okay, all together. And .

video, I change.

Then I said, really another company. You, well, well, yeah okay. Anyway, ever more question to after eleven years, a crime cast is dead. But I was launched alongside a popular tablet. What OS version was that tablet running?

Do you get an extra point of tablet?

No, you'll get my eleven respect. But in that exact point, Andrew, with a thousand yard there .

yeah i'm going for the love respect right now.

Did I review this product you? Yeah.

yeah, I did.

Oh, we do. We have with the number. We could write the letter.

the number.

What I did.

I not take both. whatever.

No, nope.

I just and .

and no new gate was .

recent.

Another and .

and .

next thirteen.

which was running, was in the fat. No next, but there was a honeycomb was IT. No for about three four, about three o four.

That's specific bro. Jelly bean was for at three, three. What did they do that? I remember the jelly in animation on my next seven.

Wait.

what was .

the question again?

What O S version was none of the way rase the .

con cast .

was launched alongside a popular tablet. Uh, what O S version was that tablet running? So was like a two part kind OK. Yeah.

should I remember that? That was jelly bean. I remember red, the jelly bean animation on my next to seven same.

We have couple jelly beans .

here in our top .

down set.

a little red jelly being with a smile.

hold out video the other day that be on the peerman. Android, remember, like paint IT, we paint IT because you're trying to control everyone of thinking that .

we knew .

be the year before was oreo. And I was like so much orio that people started believing IT wasn't orio, and they really that I we build a peer to try. People think we knew ahead of them. And I think her SHE retweet IT to really.

really the first year that they stopped using desert.

Now that was pie.

wasn't yeah pie. And bose Q, I think that's when .

I said that .

I can talk you, I mean, you know me, I can talk about cash for a while so that we have to end the park before down that rabbit. But yeah, that's been IT. Thanks for watching and listening to this ept away form, and we will catch you guys very soon.

Produce me.

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