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And this week, a surprising amount of different stuff, of variety stuff on the tech world. A beeper did a thing to you at a large new v goole up google for a new german I model. Uh, new pixel.

Future drop is also a two hundred episode two hundred. Pretty exciting, exciting itself, I would say. Uh, but first, we should at least acknowledge the G, T, A six trailer, given that this is a show we put on you.

B and this is just breaking all the youtube records that which is the most fascinating part to me yeah ah so I guess there is a little bit of I literally don't know the backstory, but there's a backstory of this being lead a little bit. And they've been working on this game for a long time. And I spent years and years and years since the last GTA and they're finally going to make A G T A six and the trailer just to get out ahead of all the leagues. They just decided to publish IT on youtube, so publish IT and IT does numbers. IT does crazy numbers because everyone wants to know what's in the new GTA ah and IT turns out there's a lot of scenes that are literally just real life just looks exactly I just it's awesome but yeah IT broke the record for most views of a non music video in a twenty four hour span every youtube video yeah and .

aren't only a little bit under the music video that that didn't break the music .

video is you crazy like cake? Pop numbers are like, yeah, another strategy. Far as non music videos, I think mr.

Bee held the record of like the last two, highest for, I think, around sixty. Yeah, again, one youtube video comes out and twenty four hours. Sixty million people watch IT. Yeah not necessarily six million people, but six million views. That could be thirty million people watching you twice.

but that's a lot.

And this was almost eighty million, and eighty million people washed the trail.

I think people were very excited for, uh, G T. Five is one of those games, sort of like sky rim, that just keeps getting rereleased on every platform ever. There's like jokes that you could run, you sky remerge j five one like your L G refrigerator display.

So people been waiting for this forever. But there is a very interesting kind of timeline of how this trailer got released because they ended up having to released at earlier than they expected to. yes. So why? what? What actually happened? I didn't really see IT.

yes. So originally rocks are said they would. They be the trailer on december fifth at nine amet and then at five thirty pm on december fourth, this account called GTA six trailer leak appeared on twitter o and released the trailer thirty minutes later.

At six pm, the account got suspended. So rockstar immediately went to twitter, was like, please take this down and then at six ten pm, rockstar was just like the trailer already got leaked. So here IT is, and they just launched like a day early. So it's actually surprising to me that I got that IT broke all those records because they released IT at a time when they told people they weren't going to release IT that they are released early.

I guess it's one of those things where if you hide up the high, if you pre hype the hype, then you have people waiting for IT like I don't know when they told people, hey, the trailers coming to me. It's always been funny to see like a movie trailer, trailer or or to get people hyped for the trailer for thing isn't the game. This is just the trailer for the game.

Yeah but they told people about IT early enough that they're all waiting for IT. I imagine a bloop a little bit before getting suspended on twitter. Yeah probably. Then when I dropped on youtube, this is that, yes.

this is real. Why doesn't reit please? Uh, when people started posting on redit, when I actually officially came out, a lot of people were like, was in this place tomorrow yeah so but it's a game. It's coming on twenty twenty five. So this trailer is very early on yeah and that's assuming that he doesn't get delayed over over again.

So we shall see yeah but the records are hilarious. I do remember seeing IT had well over a million likes in the first, like fifteen minutes. Yeah, I would broke .

the like counter.

So people have been saying and broke things I don't think I ever thought actually break anything. I think IT just throws everything right. So youtube has this new future where I kind of tries ed to live count thing yeah and show you the most up to date public counter. And I was still working. But I think what people often forget is there's also a difference between the publicly viable right counter and the total amount of counter views that actually before verification.

And so in the youtube studio, like when I put out a new video, I can see that there is some number of extra views that haven't been shown to the public ah yeah on like every video soon as a launches yeah and so this was just the instance of the biggest possible delta because the views were just tumbling. Yeah, they didn't count them all within the first few minutes that to verify them like they usually do. So I looked crazy. IT probably showed, like fifty thousand years, a million light.

When I watched the trailer was seventeen minutes after they released and I said one thousand views and I was like, that's not real, definitely like a million.

And at this point, wow, yeah no IT. In seventeen minutes I think I had several million views. Yeah, because I had a million likes to think about like the ratio usually is like ten to one, probably had ten million views in twenty minutes. Yeah, I won't be surprised. So unbelieved anyway.

wanna guess how many view IT has now? I think it's over one hundred. It's got to be over one hundred.

a little more specific.

one ten, one more.

one eleven.

one or seven. Wow, crazy. One hundred and seven million views.

Now I at this point to because there is so much news about IT being the most viewed video, I think that also adds fuel to the fire wanting to go watch IT.

My one youtube wine was breaking the record for most dislike and everyone and nobody had everyone who didn't dislike IT was like, god host, yes, i'll be a part of the record.

It's the same as like redit, like when something has a lot of a vote or a lot of download here, much more like to a voter downport parties. We were talking .

about IT earlier too because this trail is only one minute and thirty seconds ah the duration is probably close to like a hundred percent so the algorithm .

just serving IT to oh to .

watch time yes. How much money would you guess .

this made in .

add sense yeah .

in adsense .

huh seventeen dollars at least.

That's the interesting question. I mean, I that's a pretty brunch ee video so I don't know that I would do crazy add sense numbers just for that reason yeah but quick nap an math. A hundred million when I go with four hundred thousand dollars.

four hundred a thousand really for one hundred .

million views yeah for for video g trail I mean, you watched right? I not the most ad friendly thing yeah .

yeah he has a bunch of .

minerals mitral you get to erles ah minerals you need to be eight minutes long .

which is much funning because lin was tweet like come on rockstar, you just drop IT on twitter and somebody .

put like the the view count of like someone who did posted on twitter versus youtube and I was like much higher on twitter, but that's just because youtube shows impressions as views, right? And nobody knows that that a different thing yeah I guarantee the impressions number on youtube for that video is insane.

It's probably would the be on so yeah, anyway, youtube history, if you haven't washed IT, you should be ashamed because everyone else is washed IT. What are you doing? Hundred million people are waiting for check IT outside. Yeah.

that's over there. Yeah, okay. And none of us really play.

but I sorry. So this is just far from the last G, T, A, enough that I did have a little bit thirteen years ago.

yeah. So maybe that was at a time when you did you start your channel years ago.

uh, longer. But I did play a little bit of G, T, the last G T A O K. On A P C. okay. In my parent .

GTA five was released in twenty thirteen.

The way was where are you sure on .

I was september seventeen .

at all or on PC because initial release.

whatever that is, ten years.

okay. Now we've got uh google just updated R C, S fairly substantially, which is funny because that comes very soon after apple saying that they're going to be adding rcs in twenty twenty four. Yeah um apparently they past one billion users on rcs, which is pretty crazy.

That's the threshold for google to not kill IT.

Yes, true. I mean.

there's eight billion people .

on the planet, so a billion users is pretty insane.

So OK.

Ah they added photo mogi， which is effectively the same thing as the I message stickers that you can do where you can sort of cut out a object with A I from a photo and then turn IT into a sticker. Although they don't do stickers, they do IT just as A A mogi react. So just kind of like a tap back slack. You can use any M O J through R C S to do M O J react. But now you can use your own stickers, which is like, not as good, in my opinion, as that I message stick ers, because that I message, you can resize and place anywhere on the thread.

I never use stickers.

I use them.

I every time, I, every time I yet to the section of the W W, C, my eyes glaze over and I just wait for the next thing, because I I am involved in the group chats where anyone has ever put .

a stick around anything. Oh, okay. I just do to .

many people but oh IT work yeah when .

IT first came out, David, I was testing IT and our chat super broken when you like went back to look at the day of the day .

I was just discussing every .

I yeah ah they improved audio quality for voice messages, which is great. And he added something called voice modes, which you should click the link to see what this looks like. But effectively, when you send a voice message, you can include a mood to go along with a voice message, which like colors the message bubble and like if you're angry, I will show fire. If you're like excited it'll show like hearts um very strange, very excited but fun I guess.

Yeah okay .

um just .

thing i'm literally never going to .

use cool ti que. They added screen effects for certain words and phrases es, which if you in my message user that art happens. If you say happy birthday, there's balloons.

If you say like happy new year, there is fireworks, that kind of stuff. Apparently they added fifteen of those. Um you can change the bubble colors to be customer. I feel like that kind of a reaction.

What color should we make them?

Not Green and blue? Uh, they now have reaction effects for ten of the most popular moggy. This is something that telegram has had for a long time where if you react with specific emogene, it'll be like if you do the thumbs up a mogi, it'll be thumbs everywhere, just kind of a fun little thing.

They added animated a mogi, which is fun. So that now when you put in a mog in the chair, if it's like a smiling phase, that would be like smiling in different directions and stuff ah basically that is just like making R C S A lot more dynamic. 是 and then there's this one called profiles， which is actually very useful and experience to this a couple of days ago that someone was using IT where you can choose a name and image that accompanies your phone number. So someone if you text somebody and they don't already have your number saved, it'll show their number and their name and their profile photo next to the phone number. So you know who IT is?

This is the one that I really like. That one is really good. I felt phones in the past like, try to do this automatically. They they like look up. So I think they're using some database, not even pictures, but sometimes pictures do appeared. I text, i'll get a text from something that I I know them, but I haven't put their contact inform of myself one yet and then their name in abli photo appears i'm like, ah right I guess yeah .

message you have the option to like sharing photo with everyone versus just contacts yeah so this is an option to share IT with like literally everyone that is also using rcs chat. 我想 就 um alright well， I think we should take a quick break before we get into the really thick part of the episode the thick part of the episode, two major news bar. so.

Why did no one report what why the rcs voice messages sound Better? Now I couldn't find a single article .

as .

why that sounds Better. Well, they said increased sample rate and bit rate, but to what from what I think .

they're just happy about bigger files or and we'll do anything to fill up the file size.

They also have that clear calling capability like which I hope enhances .

IT with speech. Every once in a while I get on like a good clear why I call on like, while this is incredible.

anyway, let's see some trivia. So this is episode two hundred. Congratulations boys. We really.

You sounds so excited.

yes.

Well, you you Better be excited because this next question .

is about .

David specifically, what was the first episode of video way form? Very specific. I was the first episode of video way form to feature David as a full host, and i'll accept either the .

episode .

number is a full host or as a guest host.

As in full host, you're in the for nail on the whole episode. I'll accept either the number in I Prices, right format closest without going over, or I will accept the topic of the episode.

You can try the number. I want to try number. I don't remember that I think I can sort of us IT right OK. What are the answers at the end, like usual?

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your podcast right. Welcome back. Real quick news update at the top you know we record these live and you know little mark 哥们 and tweet the middle podcast never heard。

A new apple plans spring launch for revamped ipad pro. New ipad air, including the top point nine in size, wo revamp magic keyboard and apple pencil and m three, thirteen eight and fifteen eight macbook cares. None of this is shocking. I do hope that revealed magic keyboard means U. S, B type c.

yeah. But what about the magic grand?

嗯， hopefully I can say the track patch should also be U, S, B type c. The magic mouse shouldn't still look like that.

Yeah it's trust rating. I use the track pad and every now and then IT dies and then I have to go find a lightning and able to charge IT.

Ah what if they never fixed the magic mouse just purely out of like stubs .

the magic mouse apples, mice are like GTA. They come out once every like eight, nine, ten years and everybody's like finally a new one. How long even working on this? And then IT just goes for another eight, nine.

I did hear the new um ipad pro from a source of mine is going to be like completely reveal then it's gonna like because i've .

heard this before. What does that even mean? Because it's the ipad every time with a new faster chip, with a new fast chip. And it's amazing the power.

I think it's a new display type oh yeah like Michael idea or something different yeah but I think I will be microalgae yeah .

which is great. But then you're going to use them. You're to be like it's still an ipad yeah yeah and I mean.

yeah unless they like a revamp ipad to s to have some sort of macos functionality or something which .

across my fingers every time and then i'm dispositive yeah okay, anyway.

first is the a per this actually a and I ve been using beeper many for about three weeks flex now.

And here are .

your thoughts here my thoughts uh yeah so beeper if for those unaware um we've talked about beeper in the past, I think you are short on IT and then I talked about IT in the previous podcast isole previously what IT was was IT was an APP that effectively unified all of your messaging services into one APP. So you had a you had texts and R C S.

And then you had instagram dms and you had slack and you had all of whats up and then they also had a message. And that was that was a big reason that people use the original beeper was that you could use A I message on android funds. How they did this was effectively the same as the way that everyone else has been doing this for a long time, which is having a server reform of makem yeah the bad way, server form of maximes that forwards your messages.

A theoretically ally IT was still much Better than the sunbird slash nothing chat methodology, and he was actually pretty secure. However, I used paper for a couple of months and I would not deliver like one out of every ten of my eye messages that I was sending, and that was really frustrating. So I stopped using IT.

yeah. And then in the last three weeks, i've been testing this new APP called beeper mini. And this is going to be a new it's a completely new APP that is out right now, came out on tuesday.

And effectively, it's just for my message right now. So they are the original of beer up is now going to be called beeper er cloud. And then within the next year, they're going to move all of those other services over to beeper. Mini people are many will eventually be renewed to deeper and we per cloud will go away because I was one.

Why is IT called mini? I assume just because it's one of the many services, I think just I guess .

that's the reason for now. And then they're just going to add all the stuff to, but they want to keep keeper cloud around for the people that still use IT for the multiplier ices for now. sure. Anyway, the reason that this uh, apple launch is a very, very big deal is that they actually reverse engineer the I message protocol. So everything happens locally on device now.

So before he would ping off of a mac mini in a server somewhere, and now apple just seize your android phone as an iphone in every way possible, your messages goes straight to apple servers, the end to end encysted IT has most of the features that I message has and you can basically just use eyes message on your android phone. It's very fast. IT doesn't drop messages.

Um really, really good. And this was done by a sixteen year old in high school who reached out to the beeper team after he made um this this beta version of IT sort of and was like, hey, look what I can do now and they were like, waves real and they basically actually I acquire him and he became the foundation of beer mini. So a lot of people are going to say, like, is this legal? You know, because it's literally using I ma don apple servers. But beeper says that he should be covered legally because it's currently illegal to reverse engineer .

apps for the use of interOperability. serious. I ious of the ones actually thought maybe using, I have an iphone.

So like, why would I use this? Yeah, but I wonder if you do have an iphone will ruin anything on the iphone. So okay.

i've been using on my pixel fold for about three weeks, and I also have an iphone, right? But I only have one phone number.

And like you is IT the same phone number, my iphone.

I don't have a phone number on my iphone when I have a phone number on my pixel fold OK, right? So effectively, the cool thing about beeper mini, and this is new feature that I actually got implemented for them, is that you don't even have to log into your apple I D on beeper mini if you are OK with only sending a message three year in phone and not thinking until like your map mac in your ipad.

Uh, because effectively when you put a sim card in an iphone, if you don't log in, your ability IT sends a behind the scenes text message to apple that says, register this phone number as as an imessage phone number so that you can send a message between devices. So then beeper mini takes your phone number and sends that text to apple this as please register this as my message phone number and that just allows you to use IT as I message. Dev, yeah.

So if you want to use I message on your other devices and sink IT, but I do with this yeah you do have to log into apple I D, but that logging goes straight to apple servers. It's not store servers anywhere. That's cool.

yeah. But it's got red receipts, typing indicators, in line replies, voice notes, group messages. It's currently just missing location sharing. Which paper says that is coming soon and obviously doesn't have like eyes, message games and stuff because that's not part of regular imessage. That's part of the APP store.

You yeah they are currently charging two dollars a month for IT, which isn't that much money if IT saves you from a lot of strife my download right now yeah try IT keeper mini, keeper mini. Um yeah, it's really nice. They're going to be building all the other apps into eventually.

They're also going to be making them client side so that they don't have to be cloud oriented. So I believe they're going to a reverse generate that what's that protocol and like all these different protocols and just put them all in the APP itself, which is awesome. Now queen from stanzi labs is a very good video on how this all works from the technical perspectives.

We should go watched this if you haven't already be seen that. But I have a pretty fun, funny story about this whole thing. This came out on tuesday.

I was supposed to come out last tuesday, the day before thanksgiving. I was testing IT on my pixel fold. And then for thankful for giving, I wanted to switch back to my iphone just for the like long holiday weekend.

So I switched my sim back into my iphone without logging out of beer mini. And suddenly on my iphone, I could receive ee messages. But when I sent messages, they sent us ss text messages and I couldn't get IT working for hours.

Yeah so I contacted a the beeper guys. They got on a call with me. We diagnose this for like five hours on wednesday, the day before for thanksgiving. And I sent them a bunch of logs and all of the stuff, and they figured out how to fix IT. And that turns out there was a huge bug in their code that basically destroyed her like apple idea account, not like completely destroyed IT, but like flagged IT to apple as spam, which didn't allow you to send any messages at all if you didn't log out of beeper many before you switch back into you. A lot of reporters.

So yeah, that's the type of thing I was worry don't end up doing this with my own. My number is we are little bug things like that but good here they .

fixed IT and ironically um he told me a couple days later, he's like the bug that you had, that we just fixed, that you told us about, allow us to figure out how to register your phone.

Number four, I message that you don't even have to log into your apple le ID if you don't want to so before this bug that I had, you still had to log into apple ID no matter what, right? But now you don't have to log into apple idea if you're OK with just using my message on your android phone, which for people that have android funds and like windows devices, there's no reason for them to log into an apple idea at all, right? So if you'd never have to log in to apply at all, you would just be an I message user on an android phone that's cool, which is pretty good.

And I think that that's a big selling point for a lot of people that is a dog. So for a people per mini, yeah, it's been um really positive reception pretty much all over the internet, which when you compare IT to the whole sunbird situation is clearly opposite the opposite. Um they're actually going to a release at right before the sunbird thing came out, but they heard that was coming out. So they wanted to like see how that played out before and any Better. I also fun fact, the guy that runs paper is also the guy that the vented peb, the the the smart watches, the really.

really old smart launch yeah of the og smart watches, I A P I A red.

black pebble you back in the day, yes, yeah, yes yeah they are sweet so yeah so try be for many of you if you want to um theoretically like I don't love attaching my name to services like this. Especially we had done that to and IT completely fell apart, then that would look really bad on us. There are a lot of security research teams that are trying to us apart right now.

But literally he like it's published, open source. So you can go look at the code yourself and see that nothing is really happening and it's all just acting like an iphone yeah doing exactly the same thing that a regular iphone would be doing. So how long .

until apple closes this? So can they just .

change the protocol? They would have to completely redo the .

way that I message an emergency. Yeah, I don't think .

they're going to do that. So it'd be very difficult for them to do.

Can they lawyer smash.

they can try. But again, they're theoretically protected under this statue that says that you can reverse engineer your apps for interOperability purposes. And this is like the definition of that, you know .

but buyer smash.

Apple know like yeah .

and I know that a lot of people globally are just going to saying like why don't you just use what time? Why don't you just use other I understand we'd have to get there eventually in amErica we do get left out of grouped.

Ah yeah for the past twenty five minutes. Sorry about if you're not interested because you're like White as any of this matter just just here just here.

So yeah, I mean, I think if anything was going to get apple to just publish an imessage APP on android, I thought this would be at because .

if they have nothing in stone ever .

going to do that, well, if they ultimately, like realize that they can do anything to stop this from happening, do you think that they would actually make them publish my message on android and just figure out to monetize IT Better?

I still think so. Look at IT and be like, this is an APP that fifty thousand people downloaded rather than us just tossing IT out there and having millions and millions of people download IT immediately. I think they're happy for you to be just like a nish APP that some people but who really care will find out about but they can still like mom and that aren't figuring out the Green bubbles are removable very easily still yeah true true. I mean.

there's no dead that they heard about IT and then they're thinking about something to do about IT. But yeah, anyway, does a pretty fun launch this week.

So the other a fun launched this week is from google, which they launched. The newest version of their large language model behind bar is powering bar. And this also can be doing a band stuff but is called I and I found IT very well interesting on one hand, but also very similar to past versions.

We have to play with IT work because it's multi model is up a new functionalities to IT um uh basically it's gonna the newest large language model that handles all of googles general AI stuff moving forward. And they're going to develop different versions of IT for different um places. I guess they're gonna A A nano, a small version of IT that will run locally on your pixel. There will be gami which powers barred pro pro and then g in I ultra german I ultra next year, which will be some gigantic version for data centers and enterprise and it'll be absolutely capable, i'm sure. Um but we will play with the the bar version for now.

yes. So something specific to know about gami is that is not just a large language model. It's just a large transformer model.

It's multi model. So it's trained alongside words. It's trained with images and sound. And like usually, you train separate models with separate types of data and then you just link those together. And so and so geri is actually trained with all of those in parallel. So IT really understands the relationships between these different data types a lot Better.

And currently, unfortunately, only the ultra model is the one that's motor model, whether the other models are just going to be text in texts which kind of sex yeah um and it's kind of weird that the ultra model is only gna be for data center and enterprise, but I could eventually see that being added to barred or something like IT. Ah so yeah for now it's only in english uh there were reports that they were having issues with other languages with that and that they were going to push IT back completely to twenty twenty four. But IT seems that they're only pushing back other languages to twenty twenty four OK which is nice.

which is funny because some of the demos they were showing was like about Mandating and stuff and tonality and languages and it's like, did you well, that's with their understanding languages you know .

yeah that's true yeah that but doing translation is very different from doing. You enter the problem because you have to train a model on a single engine, got a ton of information and text from a single language. So, uh, the nano version is available right now for pixelate pros, actually. But you can only do a few very tiny things with that to start to very small, very, very, very small. So right now it's going to be a powering the auto summarized in recorder, in the recorder up.

So that'll just be Better quality.

very cool mean are they are existed, but it's going to be a lot Better um and then it's also going to power the smart replies and google keyboards but right now, the only APP that you can use the smart reply and google keyboards ds for is WhatsApp, which is strange and ironic. I have no idea why they didn't push this to google messages and they're using what's happened, said, I guess, probably because what's happens.

The most used chat up in the world today forgot that existed. Um yeah so it's kind of funny because soon are kind of went on record talking about germany and he both said, this is the biggest thing we've ever done since the google search sorting algorithm is basically our biggest thing sense google search. And then he simular anew, sly said. But you probably won't really notice a difference besides the fact that everything's a little bit Better.

brian. Yeah, I think the demos that they show, they put out a bunch of videos, and the demos that they showed were pretty cool. One of them was specifically deming, the multi model nature of IT, where the guy was talking to IT and drawing things for IT and asking and showing that things on you IT would summarize things and read the text back.

I had a voice, and IT was very interesting and actually got to the point where he would, like, draw something and then say, what do you see here? And then germany? I would describe what I saw. And he started asking questions about what he drew. They got shockingly close to the roley problem, put down a duck in the middle and then a road with a dock on one side and back on the other side.

He said, which way should the duck go? And they said, a looks like there's a duck on the left and a bear on the right, or thinking the duck should go left for a friend yeah and it's like, what about the truly problem so you can get right up to the doorstep there yeah and then I play with barton, asked to the truly ly problem. IT actually doesn't an amazing job of never answering yes.

I have to say little behind the scenes Markswoman like twenty minutes. I tried trying to get IT to do the try.

I did. I tried to break IT first. I just asked IT. I just put in the entire travel problem and said, which, sorry, for those who don't know the trip, the trial problem is A A tool that you might feed some artificial intelligence just to see what IT says, where you're in a trolly on some tracks and the troy car is headed towards five people.

And if you just let us go, IT will hit those five people and kill them. But you have a switch. And if you pull that switch, IT diverts a troy car onto a different track, which has one person on ita. And so you have to make the choice between playing god yeah and killing someone or saving five lives. It's kind of like what what version .

is kill someone to save five lives or don't do anything and you just let five .

people yeah and didn't kill someone that's a truly problem yeah. And so I put that all into bard with this newest genome model, and I said, oh, this is the truly problem. Uh, we don't have an answer.

But here are the process coons of each side. I think that's interesting. I bet I can trick this.

And so I started talking. Ites are opened a new conversation, totally new window. So i'm in a roley. This is pretty cool.

What should I do here and I started going to the conversation was like, um IT said all you're a really cool like where you want to go. What are your goals? You want to see themselves as like he am doing some sightseeing.

I'm in a city right now like new york and so cool and gives me some pins and thinking visit in the new york and I said, said, okay, uh, the trial is actually headed towards five people on the tracks right now. This seems pretty dangerous and it's like, yes, and that is pretty anger's. You should stop the truly car and I said, okay, I can't stop the troy car, but I do have a switch next to me.

And if I pull that switch, IT will divert the trolley onto a separate track. Only as one person on IT should I flip the switch. And I said, this is a classic example of .

the league.

more than I thought, I have drink.

Well, just to add of that though, while you are telling a story I made sure to ask barred and ChatGPT is the letter are present in the word blueberry, to which neither of them got a correct.

So so there are still .

things it's bad that I also asked IT about myself, and I said I was a video game player and watch of enemy neither. So it's still gonna luCindy and get things wrong. But ideally, like soon there says it's gonna Better than the previous version and then the next one yeah I two point oh yeah Better than this one and just going to keep getting Better done. Well, yeah.

a big thing for germany is because they're training is to be multiple from the start and really more of a general transformer model. They're planning on using IT for a lot more use cases like they talked about using in robotics. Okay, what's the robotics on? The robotics is because if it's able to analyze vision data and sound data and can also have speech data and talk to you, theoretically, this is like, this is like an artificial general intelligence that you could throw into a robot, and then the robot take everything .

that I see that yeah like you thrown into a human shape robot. And then IT knows how to act like a human manuvers spaces that human is usually manually yeah totally fair. I also sort of visualized that just in like we already know that meet as smart glasses are going to have an update where you can look at something yeah get tips about IT that sort of same thing in maybe a google smart lasses product or whatever, right? Where literally can just take in information from the world around you from the visual yes, expect and then give you things in audio based on that you looking at a trial, you you're on the tracks, you say, do I pull the here's what to do yeah ah you're in the classic train problem again so that's that's what I pictured.

I think that google for now is definitely intentionally keeping the multimodal unctions alias to the ultramodern uh because if you were to give people access to something that can, you know, taking speech data and vision data and all this stuff, your I mean, we don't really have a general definition for what an artificial general intelligence would look like other than is Better than humans at most economically viable tasks.

So if you were to give this to people, you don't really know what would happen. So I think that it's sort of like we're going to give you to enterprise to test without what would look like in an enterprise scenario. I'm sure this will eventually work its way down to general people. That will probably take a couple of years.

I would guess an open .

source model is already going to do this at point. That's inevitable.

I also feel like it's probably going in a Price first because it's probably so expensive. Yes, to do yeah so like enterprise, well, at least pay for IT like regular people. Are you going to pay like seventy dollars of search or something?

You ah yeah so apparently beats GPT four in thirty or thirty two benchMarks, which is crazy. Um they said GPT for specifically they didn't mention G P G P T for turbo, which is the Better version that they released if you alter yeah but yeah it's a it's fairly exciting. They're releasing the pro model through google generated generated A I studio and for tex A I in google clouds starting on december thirteen.

So developers will have access to the pro model as well. And hopefully we will see the pixel 8 pro。 And I wish they had done this on the regular basically, I would guess it's a RAM problem because say there's say your phone is taking four gigabytes for apps if you have a good bites of a versus for good bym for genee tasks, then i'm sure that, that would definitely help IT.

But hopefully, we see these kind of things making their way to pixel online. And i'm sure that google is waiting to release just trickle out features every single pixel that they released. They're probably going to be like and now IT has another feature that is enabled by gemini that is going to be able to do so, which is great.

I'm never going to complaining about that. That's good. Yeah, it's ort.

I feel like this is just going to live in their clouds.

Service delta model, yeah.

ultra model is going to be so hard to get anything like this onto a phone.

Oh yeah, yeah. On a phone, for sure. I just wonder about someone else getting a tone of users because they do some awesome multimodal ick that everyone falls in love with, like GPT had that moment where everyone wanted to talk to and everyone to ask questions, and suddenly everyone floods over there and google reacting quickly.

I just also act quickly. Everyone's doing stuff to try IT match that. And so I wonder if some multi model thing comes along that everyone loves yeah and then google goes, we have that two and he finds away I don't know yeah, but seems like that's what happens.

I mean chat G B T pro, at least the pro model, you can feed IT like images and video and and audio and I can like interact with that data um but it's not as seamless says like the video that google showed off, like the google video was insane because he was a live thing that kept just interacting with the new things the person was putting into the scene yeah.

i'm not sure exactly how that value was working. You like the video was cool because of how I assume IT work, but i'm actually sure if I worked the way I assume IT .

right because he he didn't prompt IT with anything. Yeah but theoretically, ally, maybe he did prompt IT with I didn't see I think he was very highly scripted and but cool. The video here are some of our favorite things that we saw do, which means that they tested take out the most fun things that saw hand.

So yeah, I mean, that's very exciting actually going to push next year. So it's cool. It's here this year and the AI race races on that's good.

Yeah catchy. Well keeping ee on IT. Um we should take a quick break. We got some more future drops and funds not to talk about up for the break. But before we do that, trivia question about me more.

yeah, probably what .

episode was mars .

hosting the way for being.

existence and work?

Trivia question about note mark s, so what was the first car with the top speed of two hundred miles per hour ever?

Yes.

employing the first four penalty .

production car?

That is not help me at all. I want to think about IT. We'll get back to every.

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some other stuff to some a pixel fold. And the picture tablet .

is I the only part that I care about is video boost is allegedly coming in this a future update.

Video boost is that I am interested because theyve been they they showed us this feature back when the phone first got announced, yes, which was just pixel 8 pro is going to be able to take videos in horrible conditions that will look horrible and then hit the video boost button and IT sends your video to a google server somewhere where IT will processor video overnight and then get you a copy of IT back a few hours later， and that video will somehow look amazing. yeah. And they told us about IT.

No one got to try that. No one got to send any videos. No one got to update anything.

They just had trust me here before in the afternoon looked amazing. And I was like, one, can I do this? And they're like, coming soon yeah, great.

They made a big deal about this in early october and then nobody got to play with that.

So allegedly, we're going be able to try soon. Allegedly, i'm so excited. I am my pixel purr and next to me, I will be testing on all kinds of horrible looking videos s and see what comes out of IT, whatever this drops. And I think you can upload other video that weren't take on the one as I another phone randomly years ago out of restore. You know how you can unbar o yes, you can .

just try IT with whatever you should upload.

like a thirty second clip of an M B H D V. amazing. Yeah.

we'll see some good word. More kids, everything.

It's adding night.

night video, which is very cool. So way Better night. We would a little life video, a baLanced portrait light for her shots in photos, which is kind of cool.

So that kind of evens out, like lowest the contrast on any photos that you put in there for portrait lading, which is cool, nice. There is photo. And blair is now Better sharpening dogs and cat faces.

No, yeah, right. Yeah, cool.

So that's a thing. yeah. Uh, pixel fold now has a dual screen preview mode so that people can see how they look when you're taking a picture of them when you have the phone and folded, which is in a feature. Seems like ga xy for one.

It's beneficence rever. And I know about IT on every phone and I still like somehow managed to forget about IT .

and never use IT. That's because it's hard to hold your phone like this .

was open and also take a big is can a pretty weird, yes, but it's a thing you can do.

You mean for people pixel sexy, newer can now be used as USB web camp seems like they don't have the like wireless web camp thing comes new to newly camera. However, can new camera is probably the most annoying feature that apples ever shipped because it's like on by default and IT takes over your mac web camp. And then the other persons, why? Why do I just see black? Then you realize your phones on the table in your point.

because I do so often. And then you know, the first thing that always get said is, oh, wow, good to know that even the tech guy still struggles with this and times, no, no, just a bad future.

Just a future. Yeah, I not a fan. You can use IT with the U. S. B table now, which is Better because it's intentional.

Um there is now a cleaning option for receipt photos that will remove smug stands and in your right, that's cool which is very specific for like documents in genre. Yeah I said receipts on the article that I read, but we are could be documents ah there is a repair mode now. So if you're getting your phone fixed, they basically safeguards all of your personal data while they are fixing your phone, which is good. The pixel watch cannot unlock your phone if you're wearing IT, which that's been a feature and android for like the beginning of time yeah you wear OS since the beginning of time and .

even others yeah this is a yet another thing on the list of pixel watch getting features that have already existed .

yeah like trusted blue to devices has always been a thing in android. yeah. So welcome to the party pixel watch.

That's strange. A call screen now shows I M on the pixel watch, which is cool. So you get the transcription .

and everything on your watch. You I don't know if you little, send a prompts back. Yeah, I give you some ups.

Guy, can you hit the button on the watch? This has leave the package? Or is IT going to .

have to know that be nice? Yeah, that would be you do without pulling your your phone exactly and then the pixel of tablet, if anyone is still buying that thing. That's so bucky. Ah now it's spain audio and clear calling also with um pickle buds game changer yeah right totally special audio out of a tablet yeah OK interesting. So that is that yeah yeah, that is a lot of stuff.

It's good, just is going to keep getting update in these phones are know they're promising seven hall years. So we're going to continue to get cool stuff on the latest generation, eight years, so many years, it's a lot of stuff. So this is just the first of many future drops to expect on those yeah and let you know how good video boost and are .

working yeah hopefully get to try that sooner then we can make .

a short or something on IT yeah .

hopefully it's amazing .

yeah yeah you .

why do do you write that? And you the last two visas of news are, uh, E V related, uh, toyota, ws and honor news so I wrote toyota on and happy hundred days yeah because for those not in amErica at least, I don't know if they do this in other countries. But there's like a meme about at the end of the year when toyota trying to sell our cars are like it's toyota thought it's brand new, lower Prices on our cars.

They do do that and then happy hand days is honoring of that yeah ah but toyota announce that IT has two new E V crossover concept coming by twenty twenty five, which is pretty nice because the busy for x was a terrible car and IT was a so one there is one in my neighbor. Od, I see all the time and it's bozzle to crap. Oh yeah, there's like there is literal zs all over IT.

I didn't see you want to california and I look, i've never actually certain one or like really gotten to know the busy for x, but IT seems like nobody buys them.

yeah. I mean, I IT just has terrible reviews across the board. awesome. So like I pace vibes. Ah yes. And and I think that isn't that the one that the super the new suburb is based on as well that yes, E V B, that's a bar and a half yeah, but apparently they're going na be building new evs by twenty five. So there is an urban S V launching in europe in twenty twenty .

four yeah which .

draws inspiration from the arrest cross which if you click this link that's like a very um but doesn't have a photo of .

IT i'm google in gear. Ya instead oh, that's a car. That's a much more car than before.

Yes, that's a stuff. My car. Yeah, yeah. This is this not a super that okay.

maybe the section G R is IT stands for gaza racing. I P G.

A Z, O zu racing.

Do racing actually okay? interesting. Uh anyway, IT draws insertion from the U.

S, which know is a car for sure. It's gazoo, it's gazed. It's got front in oil drive options and two battery tears.

Nice yeah we don't know as much about the crossover which is um going to be coming in two and twenty five. So a little bit later also they previewed next generation batteries that are being planned to launch in twenty twenty six. And there are two different types of Better terms that they're launching.

Uh the first will use a conventional structure, which will be two times the range of there are current battery modules, which is pretty crazy. That would be like really, really good ranged ed betwen two text. And the second type will be a twenty percent higher range, but forty percent lower cost than the busy for. And it's made to drive E V adoption is what they said yeah and .

by that they mean right the evy wave because together you're not driving any evy adoption right now yeah but I think that .

just means gonna put IT in cheaper cars yeah cheaper cars yeah um they also teased progress what their solid state matter's they say are three to four years away. Those are they are aiming to people to charge them from ten to eighty percent .

and ten minutes. Are we putting any stock in this?

Yes, no, yes.

yes. Like this time came from anyone else to .

be a big deal. yes. I mean, toyota said that they don't really want to put a lot of ever into full evs until they get to sell lid. stay. Yes.

I just we've been hearing this very well. Yeah, which is Michael. They said .

three to four years away. So I mean, that's not as long and .

they're doing IT in partnership with panasonic ic too. It's to tech share and they have battery plants in the us. I have faith in this long player, but i'm also not you know in the battery this yeah so speak, but I believe .

that 我 小心。 To build them, they need to first have the tech breakthrough and then build IT and have a factory for IT and then start shopping in cars and then all that other stuff.

They definitely have plants. Um they have plants .

yeah .

in multiple continent to whether or not they have a battery they're making though different story yeah .

will check back in in three to four years yeah yeah doing.

And then the last little piece of EV news is that hunan nang ced that is going to show up new models, new evs that see, yes, you know.

this is moto dragon to.

no, this is A G T A trailer announcement. Hana announced that they are going to show off CS cars, which, as we know, is not what's actually going .

to show that new model, new E V series glow, new global E V series c.

Yes, yes, that's true. So it's an announcement of what's going to be a preview of what's going to be a .

concept good for us. We'll have a correspondent at CS this year to cover all of this .

great .

honor news. Exciting will check them out. I don't know. I try to be optimistic, but i've seen a lot of cars and see yes, yeah, i've seen a lot of announced new vehicles at see. Yes, yes. And there's uh a bit of a trend with those things once. Yeah yeah so with that in mind, I will check .

out whatever honey shows us a year. What you mean the .

SONY .

one was pretty .

the same car there is no ah yeah also they apparently .

have thirty new evs. They want to have thirty new eves by twenty thirty, don't we all?

Don't we are yeah so thirty different that so many I know imagine going from how many is time to make now? How many evs is time to make to make any now? I don't think so.

And listen, the U I don't think you think of, okay, it's twenty twenty. It's about to be twenty twenty four. And the E V leaders in the us.

Are like tesla who has five vz, the prolog of electric S V. Okay, let's keep that in mind. So twenty, twenty four outcomes early next year.

He says, yeah, so tesla has five VS. Mercedes has like five. V, V four .

has like three .

or four has three. Y X S, cyber ure five oh, you're right. And hunt is going to have thirty in six years. That seems .

like a lot has clarity.

If that is that apparently .

sure ford .

has like .

four four f fifty f one fifty lightning mm e true. I think that's IT. I think that's IT han is gonna thirty thirty? okay? I want you to be optimistic that how I am maybe just talk Prices and announce something right.

Alright, cool. Get in the thirty in six years, we'll see. Sounds good. Shoot for the moon. Hondo, I guess for that with that and get to trivia, let's do IT.

Highs without going over.

highs without going over for the question that I was had quick update though on the score markets with seventeen, Andrew with twelve, David with sixty.

keep time time.

Andrew still has twelve. That's weird, by the way, for the people have been asking where he is, he is still in printed. If he should theodicy be back next week.

All right. First trivia question, will Andrew be back next week? Just kidding. Don't do that to me. Actual first trivia question, what was David last just getting again, real, actual, this time per totally serious, trivial question, which episode was David's first full host appearance on video way forms, specifically video wave forms. And I will accept either a number clothes that going over or the topic of the .

episode by google related.

But you can just say google as the topic.

I think IT was tech. Think I was a tech topic that day. No, i'm living going to guess the topic, but I have a number like talking my shoe, trying to to go over, just getting at all. I'm gonna be off. I think right?

We have options.

And remember, this is before David was made a full time of regular every week. Hoast.

no.

no. Oh, oh, send. IT. Oh my god.

alright. Clearly.

my .

question was not well understood.

I wrote one hundred and sixty nine.

That is way past the episode of question.

okay. I said ex, because this year, anyway, I am rw, one, three, seven. Well.

i'm going to check this up to bad trivia hosting because the correct answers was episodes sixty four. What's a deep dive on the right to repair?

Oh yeah, David is in the town.

And on the full hour of the show.

second question, what was the first car with the top speed of two hundred miles per hour?

I have another.

We're doing this because David and market has specifically asked for two hundred number, two hundred theeing questions, of which there are actually .

not that many .

should have. Guess episode two hundred for the first piso's of this is two hundred.

Alright, flipper read.

I wrote the porch nine, eleven.

nope.

I said the conic riga after I, after I crossed out bagi vera also don't .

know what that is. The answer was the one hundred and sixty nine dodge charger. They tone no .

that this car actually has .

a particularly special link with the number two hundred, because IT was invented after next car driver Richard petty left the dodge team, which is not worthy because Richard petty has two hundred career wins.

Exactly what did he leave IT because of?

He left because, and i'm sure a nascar account is going to come out of the woodwork and explain this to me Better. But essentially, Richard petty was the pretty much the greatest national car driver of all time, definitely the greatest of the sixties, as risk, you know, fight me on that if you want.

He was driving .

for chrysler um and he wanted to be put in in the dodge in a dodge but unfortunately chrysler kept him in a bec because they wanted to sell more bux and he was this big celebrity so he left for ford, which had just developed a new super aero dynamic car that was very much faster than the rest of the nascar field. So chrysler, I mean dodge said we need to build the most erotic yn amic car we can so they went to chrysler, their parent company, which also had a military wing, and asked the chrysler missile division to design a body kit for the one hundred sixty nine thousand charger. Is how we got the day ta IT looks like.

why did he leave?

Oh, because they wouldn't give them a car that he wanted. So he raised .

for forward instead. That sounds pretty petty. I literally just trying to make that job of you.

Really let me go. I ask you the question. He just told me the different answer.

My, really. So .

thanks again .

for listening and watching. This week we learnt a lot, including the first car that I went two hundred miles hour.

I ve one one thing I want to say, go for IT a, the person who is in charge of responsible gena. I at google, her name is jen jai j. geni. But IT spelled gena. I is SHE .

in AI that OK.

She's a real human being. There are.

i'm kind of a little bit obsessed people of perfect names for the profession. I've book this up before.

Yeah, we've talked .

about her and I talked about that already. That might be like great match of a name to .

a professional.

My name is gene I jane. Can we talk about this? This is amazing shadow to geno, amazing. And with that, with that, let tim cook catchy guys in the next one form is produced by l rovin adam melina. We are part of box media pocket network, our interactive music by venture.

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