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Good cheese snapshot deserves all the time.

Yeah, I won't be in the title, but IT will be very before the eye surprise.

Ah what is up? People of the internet? Welcome back to the two hundred fifty episode of the way from podcast wear host market is a mander David and another week, another bunch of new gadgets and stuff to talk about, uh, a bunch of the apple videos from the stuff of just got got announced are now out. So if you guys check your sub boxes, you'll probably see some of that stuff, the headphones, the watch, the phones, but also there are smogged stuff, the spectacles are some headphones that we're testing and we're going to wrap IT all up with a little game we wanted play.

Yeah, I was like like writing a little bit of pocket this morning and I looked at episode to and at first two hundred fifty. The episodes not seem like a lot because there's you're like, oh, you know there are three hundred sixty five days here, but then you think about weeks and is nearly four years out .

actually longer .

well and IT was less every other .

week for a little so longer time yeah oh wow.

not a miss IT .

says a lot .

about how in the trenches we are with this show that we're like two and fifty years. nothing. We will see you a thousand yeah.

yeah, yeah. So me up at the next digit.

yeah. Anyway, first we have a little PSA for all you guys out there. We do. yeah. So now that A I O S eighteen and the iphone sixteen series out part of I O S A teen is R C S messaging.

And I just, I need to do a little PSA because I was seeing a lot of chatter on threads, a little bit on twitter, but mostly on threads of people that think that rcs is replacing I message. IT is no, yes, I am. You're spreading this .

information. People think .

what I know.

Look to their credit. R, C S is not the most like consumer friendly branding, right? R C S, messaging, rich communication services. Most people not know what that means. That said, S M S is also a confusing actually um I feel like .

IT doesn't need branding. IT just is getting to the point of being the default that no one needs. Yeah care about IT?

yes. So okay. So weirdly enough, apple gives you the option to turn off R C, S messaging on the iphone, which seems, but I guess you can also turn off my message.

So maybe they wanted to just have parity there, but I saw a bunch of messages of people turning off rcs because they were like, why would I use r when I have a message? And here we go. So am zoom on my face.

In two thousand and eleven OK, apple had an APP called text, which would later become the messages APP. The text APP was the S. M S APP. Then in I O S five point o apple just added the I message protocol on top of the texting APP and they were named the APP two messages. They wanted to give the impression that now texting is just Better, except that was only Better with your iphone friends.

So the message is, APP is not a message, a lot of people say, but I use my message and they think that they are using I message the APP. No IT is the messages APP with the I message protocol sitting on top of SMS as fall back. Now, when you text an android user, the ss protocol is not the default protocol.

Now I will be R C S, which is rich communication services, which gives you things like red receipts, chat bubbles, inline replies, group messages that you can like leave and enter at will, high quality imagine video support. IT is basically most of the default im message upgrades. But for everybody, there is no reason to turn that off.

There is no reason to turn that off. Some people say, oh, but IT doesn't have a encryption, which is true and is lame and they are working on. But also ms also does not have encysted.

Yes, so just use R, C, S. All you're doing is making your chats with android users way Better. There is no reason to turn that off. That is my P, S. A. yeah.

I think the other P S A is for the complete opposite side of that is for all of your family and friends who aren't going to who don't update their phones, or maybe have an android phone that don't haven't turned down R C S because is not a default like an older phone, tell them to turn IT on, because they will make life for you. Yes, so much Better. yes.

Unfortunately, on android phones, you have to use google messages generally to have rcs chats. So if you've got like a relative that uses samsu messages or verizon messages plus or something or like that, I hope have them download google messages. But try, try, try. It's really hard to get IT is hard.

Someone is using the eyes and messages, baby steps.

Yes, yeah. Think of the type of person that's using various messes plussed and how hard IT is to get them to switch to .

default message up. I know.

just do and don't tell. But try, yeah, try. Apple has made apple. Google has made a lot of relationships. These, like Carriers and from the phone manufacturers, were now google messages.

Is the default messaging up even? They even got samsung to get rid of their dump messaging up. And now google messages, the default p anyway, texting is Better. Don't turn off. R, C, S, just don't do IT don't commit crimes.

We were talking in the car this morning about how insane is that. There's this like small sliver of people that know enough about technology to even know what rcs is and to go in their phone and not to like turn IT off, but not know enough of our tech to think that R C S. Is like wiping out.

I messed because most people.

but and then and then these posts are on thread and blue skies, so they also have on platforms. But somehow, yeah, I love you, whoever you are. Thanks for existing. In this slim march.

you get IT because people think eye message and they think texting on the iphone. They don't think of the message is APP, which has I message as a on top of S M S. Fall back, which I understand. You don't just think of protocols. I do every night was .

I can you say 吗？ The second uy protocols, people's eyes plays over. They like IT.

How about messages? Here's an even shorter version of the PSA. When you open messages and you've got those blue bubbles, that eye message, that's great.

When you've got Green bubbles, that's been SMS for years, that's terrible. But now it's Better. It's R, C, S. It's closer. It's not blue yet.

but it's Better. Yeah, you don't never be blue, but you never be blue. It's Better.

Anyway, update your phones. People don't turn off r CS. people. I also wanted to call out, uh, there was a thread on threads about people were like, I update my fun of IOS eighteen and it's crazy that apples allowing for you to like lock down certain apps with face ID. This is another thing that's like deeply embedded in the settings. And i'm just surprised that like I feel like the IOS updates reach more general audiences than like an android update does.

Yeah they get pushed day one to everyone who has like the last two years, three.

four years of phone. I mean, the nice thing is that I like updates overnight. You don't even have to say and at a lot of the time.

So I think you at least have to had accept once maybe yeah, but then he has just overnight. yeah. So great.

Update your phones, you and make your friends do IT for them. I really like that. You both just repeated update your phones first.

said what he said right next.

Take us into this next story. Android, right? New snaps. spectacles. okay.

Remember snp spector? Do I? I remember the original snp spectacles? The .

yellow ones?

yeah. Those things you have. yeah. And then when you play the back on your phone, you can turn the phone, and I would just play back. Any part of this previous video this was .

there was sold out.

They're fun, they're quirky, they're cool. This is, this is the first I was thinking of this. I think this was the first free product ever got from working here because, like, two months into working.

but you get free process from working here. Mark ga.

like three of these, and we were going to shoot the loser air prototype. And he is like, we should just both use this on the trip. Like you take this pair and we were like messing around with them and using them in the airport.

I think we're just setting them up in the airport, but we are using them in like the back of the loser. And this is that exactly what they did, that all they did was look kinda silly and have a camera that would shoot video for snaps A T and then ah you could rote your phones. So when other people got IT and they move their phone around, would see more.

I like so many people would message me being like, what is your video doing because they had no idea these existed and they had. And to be fair, IT is like a weird phenomenon. You move your phone around, it's like, it's like your phones of portal because you can you can move your phone around and the video doesn't pix, yeah.

And you can turn, and I used to be an electric skateboard reporter, and I reviewed to ten of electric skywards, and we would just skate around with these snaps, spectacles, and make snap chat videos, first person videos. Yeah, yeah. Shot to google glass.

yeah. He was told this is also, these improved upon google glass in a very key way, where the one of the main reasons google glass died is that they didn't have a recording tally light. And so there was a ton of like issues where people are getting yeah, people are getting yeah, they had no indication that you were recording a tiny light.

I don't think they had any light. People are getting kicked out of movie theaters because people thought they were recording the movies. People were getting pulled over while driving because people thought they're like watching a video while driving. But the spectacles added this really bright yellow recording, like circle animation on that why you're recording. So that IT was very obvious that you were doing that.

So these were like, these had bunch of hypo around them. They were sold. I think I like vending machine. Yes, he was .

very drops. Monica was with .

a question of what will .

give me a point anyway yeah there is a lot hyper and cool ah .

these were super brand. Now in twenty twenty four we just got to see some new snp .

track spectacle and this is .

like virden for yeah apparently in twenty, twenty, twenty one, they like announced these are now A R glasses to totally different products. I guess they like never launched in twenty twenty one, another sort of relying ching them, but they're completely different. These look like. Do you know when you do like three movies and you get those like kind of semi sr three glasses, this is like somehow bulker versions of those yeah .

like product .

glasses that are even chunk yer than .

product like like these would be showed at some random like a walk away at .

a fashion think the key stinting me actual pass off as just regular sunglasses that someone might wear out, and these new ones you .

could not .

pass off gone wards.

But I was thinking more about snapp s chat doing A R glasses. And as much as I don't like that they are using the word spectacles, because this was the spectacle of to me, and these don't feel like IT. I keep forgetting that snape chat really was like the social media site that made A R filters and A R things like animation super popular so well, with like special tracking and stuff like that. Remember the hot dog guy, the .

dancer, quite a few. O G A R means from snaps, for sure.

that I took over the internet. So I guess what they're doing is taking that A R team and air glasses do make sense. This just feels weird because they are called spectacles les. They don't remind of spectacle les. They're also only coming out as a developer kit right now where you have to pay nine, nine dollars a month in order to .

develop no a months. I think it's like any wells.

yeah. So you basically committing see.

you're developing on a product that you don't know what will ever launch.

Is this something like magically, anyone else? This sounds so much like magic sound, just like magically. I think the .

difference though is that snapshot has a history of actually being like somewhat successful with these A R products like there. And we went to like if you're going to like a nick game or something or like a hockey game on the jumbo tron, they will just have like the snap chat filter section where they just like point the camera at someone and put a filter really yeah, that's what I was to say. Snapp chat has more success in this .

area yeah .

in the A R area, not in the creating wears yeah.

But I think the wearables are just like the condo for the A R I just making so that people can like experiment.

The interesting thing about these glasses too is that they have uh, hand gesture control, which is something that previous ones did not have. And IT basically feels like they're trying to shrink down the vision pro faster than that apple can. That's what he feels like but that all the demos were really rough.

The phone mirror was.

well.

yeah yes so the screen is only a forty six degree field of view so it's not full. IT doesn't take up .

the entire yeah, but just like like making your phone for all the .

thing that I thought was cool. IT was there.

But like the interacting with IT was rough. what? Making phone font call .

cooking OK?

Yeah, yes, specifically .

cooking OK.

I my brain is about that big. And I read, and then I go to the stove .

and then I go.

weight yes, it's because tiktok videos, they're shortening your attention. Reporters of a cup and you walk over the cup. Remember anymore this is how ended up making that lizard .

yeah that's a totally different version of that. But that's sure. Yeah.

story time, part two, state .

time one other new apps they have .

available on this.

again, a chatbot. Baby, didn't me? They added they were one of the first apps to add a chat after ChatGPT came out. So he was, yeah, my ai.

Yeah, guys.

stop. But yes, a weird .

company man. They just do whatever they do. I do drone. Remember the drone and just continued, really was one just stuff IT IT did work.

The things that work for them are the the things that work for them were dancing hot dog and bit.

Mog west comment always succeeds wow, yeah yeah you're that company and .

also the things that succeed for you. You'll probably try anything like an idea that's not like the the broom, the White board zone goes, what if we did A R glasses that just show your phone floating in front of you sounds like, okay yeah.

of those mates, just a million different words create .

sentences with them. There's stuff with they or you were playing golf and you use your phone as like the golf putters and you would like got .

simple through this virtual .

window that just like a peared in space in front of you. I don't know. IT IT was rough for sure. And the fact of have to pay one hundred dollars a month just to be a developer for a product that you don't know what ever come out is inane.

And then on top of that is you're developing for this product when there's a bge of .

rumors of meta doing air glasses .

and probably we've done more hardware of yeah our stuff and sunglasses with like rye bands already yeah tough .

tough on you know snapshots. One of those companies where I feel like every couple of years we go, oh, there's still company and then you look into the data, really they've grown like this time, I think huge. Yeah, I do miss the days when I actually cared about them.

Users, four hundred .

minutes .

people as a messaging.

Yeah, well, now I I think Young, the youth use, I know it's like all in one. It's like superb. Yeah like wheat chat for kids.

Can I pop clozel guys for a quick on how big sandpit? Tz, I just .

hundred .

daily, four hundred thirty active, eight hundred million monthly on average, how many snaps are created everyday?

Two billion, one point seven billion.

four point seven, five billion snapshot generated, how much revenue?

And twenty, twenty three.

one hundred dollars, negative.

one billion dollars.

four billion dollars.

four point six .

billion days, oh my good.

A lot of money almost .

per snap per day. We was IT yeah four billion .

sap a day and four billion in anywhere revenue, a dollar per .

from where .

from from the advertising .

from developer fees?

Yeah basically. Okay, last one, gz users account for one percent of snapshot monthly .

active .

users in the.

It's only half, only half. I mean, so you think snapp s chat is this .

little world years for the world's team.

which is not a youth world's team. In adult worlds team, we made a snapshot group. And then when we finally got to australia, and we'd been like, like everyone has been like sending things to the group, and we looked in the group and we trying to figure out how many of us are actually in this group. Every single person on the team, except one, was in the snp jack group. User, adults, raw over twenty people.

So I like how you can get anyone to move off of a what's that dumb messaging APP that microsoft stilson for some reasons? No, no. But well, yes, that's a dun messaging. After do they do on sky? A the one that you use .

for ultimately ze. Hi me, microsoft. great.

Oh yeah, baby. What a terrible.

What that group me used to be, our .

work messaging up before .

there.

You guys, you guys are massacres for sure. Okay, one other thing about snapshot that I found very funny, they're completely redesigning the APP. And the the new version of the APP redesign is called simple snapp, which is the redesign. If you look at IT, it's literally just what snapshot used to look like.

When I use IT in like before they redesigned IT and lost.

I download IT like a year ago because someone I met was like, we should Snapchat like, I guess i'll look at IT. Looks like I download IT and I gave me an aneurysm. I had no idea how to Operate this out. I was like, your brain has to be fried to understand what the U. X of this like does that there's only like three three pages, basically.

No, there's a fifth pit. There's a tiktok page.

Oh yeah.

you look at that .

of this is not used to be the page .

of all the snaps you have is the home well but then they .

added the, they they like a video feed where they had like a buzzed and all the other different creators.

yes, down here. And they have to make a in, out to be the camera. I was the camera, but then he was only our camera. And these are the .

snaps at your sending. Yes, that was a very powful thing about snapshot is when you open Snapchat, IT opens directly to the camera. No other social media APP does. Yes, I still.

why can I use IT sometimes? Because I just like send silly videos of lean to each other. It's so much easier just pop that open is not saving on my phone and taking up storage.

Actually, I got to see the in crawl for the first time because clare, just like sitting there snapping lane, wow, that work. And then just like in the middle this time, you just are you crawling right now and Michael e was taking your first did you see the video? I think .

there that's often he would have been so much easier if you .

are in a humane peno record .

record record right? Is not overheat IT.

It's overheat IT.

Yeah also snaps. I invented the story format.

Yeah, that's true. You imagine .

instagram is like dying, right? Like I mean, it's not. But the only reason still alive is because of stories and because they're trying to get people hooked on rails and it's melting people's brains. But stories is like the main reason that people still use instagram. People don't really look at feed post that much anymore.

It's a very big I think it's a reason that I like peak, got super popular and stayed in the line like real is definitely helping now, but they totally told that from snap and I think is around the same time, snapped the redesign. And so like people were mad at snap and then .

went station m stories. So I don't think anyone else is doing that before.

What is someone doing that now? Yes, like I don't think no one even is my friends.

Wait, snap twenty seventeen yeah no. IT is I remember .

that launching yeah, there is .

overnight. So .

thought were to talk about snap.

Yes, we can thing before the .

break. These are some headphones that we talked about few episodes. Market doesn't here.

When we talked about this.

actually.

yeah, we use them. I have a little more you .

have and are table these are .

they're not open back.

They're just open back Better .

that the most open back are they .

open back because there's no back that the .

Better has really open. If you're on video.

you can see or maybe not see because you can see through IT .

yeah um raal listened.

It's like a pair of over your headphones but there's no back and there's just like some drivers hanging down yes.

which is cool.

They remember me of the SONY linked buds, which were they like truly wireless year buzz where there is the transparency mode was physical phyle.

They are like negative link buds ds.

because linked budd had the ring that .

they're like the opposite .

of driver around IT. Yeah also this is just like the packaging IT comes in Better care in case than .

air pods back for listeners, that is a uh, paper purse. 这个。 Hg, yeah, IT does look Better than the airport's make.

You want to just try this out else you then what do you think about them?

So yeah, when we first talk about these I said I don't know and then I tried them um prose good things about them. Uh, very comfortable. I can see myself being able to award them for a long period time, although I did not try to pro.

Number two, they pair really easily, which I know is like, shouldn't everything pair really easily? We will guess what they don't. And we were like passing around these around the office and like everyone was like paying and unpaid to their phone.

And like typically that messes up a lot of booth Price because they want to mess up. So that was three number two pro. Number three.

the look cool.

It's actually on my on personally I don't know.

I would love .

to be ond warn a lot of ridiculous tech products in public and those cut across the light.

These are their funny straight, you can even tell their different. And then from the why can I like.

I love that I I think .

i'm listen music, hear from number, whatever the bleed.

I don't know how they fold IT up. There's like no bleed like like my vocal. Open bx have significantly .

more prey .

so .

that these .

headphones interesting .

cos they sound fine, they sound competitive with other headphones in this Price range.

Three hundred years?

Yeah, I don't think they have a good base as some of the competitors. And before you're like old just because the SONY accident former have base boost. No, it's like you can hear the resonant frequency in the roll off at the end like they sound a little bit like you've seen the music inside a wooden box. Um but there are other than that, they sound fine and competitive and and they get loud and they get pretty .

they get pretty yeah .

I don't know. Therefore, the thing is, is like I kept using them with my ipods and like going back and forth and to try to like compare what airpower transparency mode and this we're like and they weren't that different in you know they mean .

like in terms of like a physical physical .

transparency. And yeah, sensation was pretty similar as a as A I think these are .

more about the design and the look than they are about the actual benefit you get from them being truly open back.

I like think preference thing.

I can hear everything you always saying, which I think with any other even like, I guess, with the open I had found there's some well of the ation from just like the material of the measure, whatever. But this is the most open i've ever .

heard yeah founds like the sound and mean the benefit of of like air pods is that it's sample ing the sound coming through and like actually protect new year yeah where is this is not doing that?

No, that it's really confusing because the I suspect that the airports, what transparency and what adaptive means like has actually been stored changing over time and they just don't put any other release notes because oed before adaptive mode, transparency mode was really similar to what adaptations is now. And now transparency is like less protective, but it's still is like doing some dynamics processing. I don't know there's they're not high five headed phones, but if you want something .

weird and then these are that man.

I think they are cool yeah. Other than looking ridiculous, I don't really have any major complaints.

I think they are pretty well built for the Price for a company. It's like not a major there.

All the N W M ones, the japanese company, amazon, you can get on on in the U S. Um they're not that ridiculous looking compare to other headphones. They're ridiculous looking by compared to .

compared to the dyson a mouth breather headphones. They're not that ridiculous. But like peak, I can think of another pair of headphones that is even half as silly looking.

If I lived in a city and went to like a coffee shop to do my work a bunch, I think this would be kind of good to have the like an ambient sound like coming through. And yeah.

the downside is this, this, I usually were headed phones to block out. People not come up to me to say anything. And these do not scream.

I can't hear you. They don't know what do you think they're get there? good.

They're like it's like having transparency mode on all the time because you have the air yeah because there's nothing there. It's great. Yeah I think great. I always level .

when we start using like technical terms to describe things that are just existing in real life .

using the marking term.

What I don't have headphones out. It's like I have transparency. No yeah I will say here.

I say as much as I would be embarrassed to rather than public. Um if I saw like a fashion model wearing them on a runway, I would like that. I be like that's cool.

Like that's .

the future. Then you .

think cool. Okay.

then you've lost all credit.

all well being.

We have a lot more of uh speak at transparently mode of products to talk about after the break. So we're going to take another quick break. But before we do, let's to do some trivial. And if about to show me the tribe answer.

don't do that .

over there. You will be getting the trivia question suit. But first, a correction from last week, exactly the correction. But now, uh, last week I made a big stick about apple watch, about apple describing the erma's watch band as, uh, three d and I thought that was so dumb.

And then a really great listener in beth, who is a textile engineer professional, wrote in to say, hey, that was pretty funny. But actually you don't know your. Early a three d nit is a special kind of kitting process where instead of using a loom to create textiles, that you then stick together with the soil machine, uh, you can just sort to create a whole garment in one process on a loom.

And if that is called three d ndc, because you're not making a flat sheet of textile, you're actually making the study process. Adam is playing you a clip. Also put IT in the the video now.

But there's this cool shot at the end of this where there's just this printer that like print a sweater check IT out. It's like crazy looking nuts and the blue and gray sort of like raised parts of the arms band. Um if you weren't doing that with three d needing you, you need to actually like weave those separately and and so on. But because I M as you three kitting, it's one continuous flow of a textile. So apple, i'm sorry, you know the certain .

types of products were like people really care. They over index how the product was made. And i've never been super into those types of products, but I feel like arms makes a lot of those products.

Will they have to justify the Price? sure. right. Like when I see that, like all the soul of these shoes was three d printed on my I just need to know if it's good of that. Like brings any benefit to me at the end. People want flexing the reasons to flex.

yes. Yeah out of this crying in japanese SE raw done right now.

Yeah there's that there's like a certain like the exotic car world, the full handled cars, like there's certain things where the way that it's built matters just as much as the thing.

It's because effort is the point, right? Not always. Well, not always. I like things like we often buy things that are hand made, even if they're worse, just because they are hand made.

Certain things in types of things, other things never right, but certain things deserve that extra consideration sometimes. Yeah, that's so. yeah.

Anyway.

speaking of things that .

are hand made.

one.

those negative three OK no bath is actually currently tied with David piers. This is awesome. Speaking of things that are handmade, truly a question hand made by me. Brain made A R C S is officially part of america's favorite phone, the iphone, and we're going to get more into that. After the break, you got a problem with me saying that.

why did everyone left? And i'm the one your single out here.

I saw the .

what .

up don't even start IT took many years .

to get here, but what year did the R, C, S initiative officially get added to gsm s work program? and. Prices, right? Rules .

like.

oh, classes are going .

over there over being leader, crocodile ally.

So see question one more time.

In what year did the gsma, which is the G S. M. association? I don't actually know what gm.

so gm is A I know what IT is.

but I don't know what IT stands for, but you should .

explain IT for it's finish finish. It's .

finish because .

there .

is what we started.

Thank you.

Global system for me. okay. So what was they invented?

SMS IT. Is you .

putting the formation of this?

So basically what I was, yeah.

be careful that we can .

be a page there. There is a finished telecom that created all of these standards and a bunch of the finish telecoms, like needed to organize to, like actually allow these protocols to work together. So they started the gsma, which is the association of the G S.

M standard, so that they could like, organized around protocols. And then that became like a global standard because they were just way ahead of everyone else. That's why nokia is like so far ahead .

of was a great explanation at at a different point time. They were some of the early industry coalition people to say, hey, this R C S thing is pretty cool. And in a certain year, they created the thing called the R C.

S. initiative. Right after the soon after the protocols sort of fleshed out, I think maybe was before I was finishing fleshed out. Anyway, i'm looking for. So I ask OK for what year?

The gsma said, hey, we are developing this R C, S thing, and we are trying to get Carriers and handset manufacturer on board. They put out a press release. They said, hey, we are pushing R, C S.

Like starting to develop IT or final ized. The speed.

When did the announcement come?

When did the announcement .

that they were going to build that?

I believe IT, IT are even built at this point, and this was just that. But let me confirm .

that a before we get to.

we're asking a lot of questions. After the break, I said.

say, I will think about that question for a while and will be back after the break.

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And so my thoughts as well as everybody also have been reviewing them about their podds four, about um apple watch series ten and about iphone sixteen and sixteen pro are all now out there in the world. And so we can say that we've been testing them, using them, reviewing them, taking pictures on them, listen to the headphones using the watch yes this is a black apple watch ultra uh that I quickly switched to after finishing testing the series ten. Um and we have plenty of thoughts, random scattered grants maybe to share that worn in the reviews, the start of the iphone, the sixteen and sixteen pro.

Um the main two things that I think will come through in the review because as well according us, I haven't made the reviews yet. But the main two things are one, these phones are unfinished. They don't have any apple apple intelligence features at all at launch.

And two cameras are really interesting. And I think the analogy that i'm trying to finish for this review for the cameras is that the way that a camera looks and processes images is kind of like E Q. In music, in headphones, for example, the way that these headphones sound of the box, if you like them, great.

If you don't, that's fine. That's just one of the ways that they can sound. Change the E.

Q. Now they sound like this. Change E. Q. Now they sound like this. And photographic styles on the iphone are kind of there.

So the power of default is very strong and the iphone still has a look with their default image. But that's just one of the ways that can look, and they're surfacing ways to remind you of different ways that can look. I think those are my two biggest observations.

Look like you could probably buy this new sixteen and be fine. Is this not that dramatic of a change from the fifteen of the fourteen? The prose are Better in the canada department and Better in the screen as they are every year. Great for k one super cool. But yeah that's that's basically in iphones and not show.

I have a lot to save about photographic c styles. They so okay, for those that don't know yet, there are photographic styles first launched in the iphone thirteen series. The process um but they only had like a few different styles that you could have in IT.

You like four, five yeah and you could like there is a there was like a tone slider and and like a color slider, warmth slider. But there is the only two things change. There were only like four presets and you had to take a photo in the photographic style when you took IT, you couldn't change IT baked in.

They made a big deal about how it's not just a filter. It's like in the pipeline, you know, which is true, still true. Now they have added a ton of different precepts, which is very cool.

I personally think the gold preset is like by far my favorite IT feels so like kodak gold. It's a it's it's nice, it's warm, it's contracted. The interesting thing of photographic styles this year are is too fold one the first time you open the camera APP, now just the camera APP at all.

Like the first thing that shows up is, hey, photographic styles, look at this. Try IT take a few photos, like IT is in your face. Like change the way that you can want the camera work by default right now.

And I think that that is basically their response to people like me who complain a lot about this, like raised shadows, a no contrast process, competition of photographic look. Would they like, right, if you want to actually get your camera look the way you want to look, set IT when you first set up your iphone. And I will always look like that you can go and change IT if you want.

But here, which I think is awesome, I just immediately set IT to the gold one. And honestly, generally that ske good enough for me. But the other thing is, they now have this like, they changed the way the slippers look, so they still have a these like settings near the top. But they have basically a touch pad where you you take the style and you can change this like three D S slider between saturation and like brightness, where you can up the the like shadows and you can up the saturation ation in this like kind of three d space.

Or there's just a simple slighter for saturation where it's like applying the style you um and I think that overall, like giving people this much more control out of the box is like a very smart move from apple because they don't want to come out and say, you know what, you're right. We went IT way too hard on the computational photography. We're just going to change the default pipeline and it's going to be more contracted and it's going to have less shadow detail. And now they're saying you want some different do IT yourself, which I like that they're like shoving in people's faces. So they have the opportunity actually do IT, where as photographic styles in the iphone thirteen was like not very obvious and also was not very customized.

Well, do you think is more like when I just think of people complaining that it's competition photography and they don't want IT versus people who like film photo styles are in in style right now and giving them options .

like yeah .

like I mean, people are taking more photos on film or at least trying to make look like feel more reason. I think part .

of that I wouldn't say that this is necessarily like fill me, but I mean, it's getting .

intel like a small style. And I just feel like the general public of people who apple would want to change something for probably like this looks .

to computational photography ah they also probably want people to less go to third party editing apps and that's first party stuff yes, I have to editing in their photos up and now they're putting IT directly .

the camera yeah, yeah, yeah no there there's a lot of people who don't love the way that the news cameras look and the fact that this is built in and super easily accessible and the lasting as its now move to the end of the image process in pipeline. So it's the least destructive. It's the thing that you can edit after you take the shots. So it's the thing that feels like the most encouraged free to change after you take a picture.

But at the same time, it's also at the front of the pipeline where you got to see, in my view, it's looking with in .

the actually the actual processing pipeline. Yes, like when you when you stack a bunch of things, it's the last thing so that if you change IT, IT is a vocal change, which is something.

But I think more people will use IT because they get to see the preview of what that looks like verses like people are just Normal people who aren't that super and photography stuff. Now we're going to be like, oh, this looks fine as on taking of verse is like, oh, that is there, but forgot to go back filter.

And more we talk about this, the more IT makes sense to me that apple, not necessarily is. So help band against calling in a button, but they do love calling a camera control. And that's the theme for this iphone is camera control. You have control over the way your camera looks and the way your camera works.

That's a great it's .

still a button. You okay, just to be clear, and I don't get either. So I either space .

computing.

they hate that people say, but but yes, IT is its control over your camera. They're giving you control over your camera. Zero, iphone sixteenth. That's what's happening here.

So my talk about the butter that's totally buton the buns.

It's fine. It's you. It's a little pynchon for me. It's kind of the slight slit, the different spot where like IT feels OK landscape and IT feels OK in portrait but not great and either. Define agree um but yeah you can swipe through I end up mainly using IT for tones like just deepening the contrast in the shadows and like messing with that just so I can .

see the shadows and real time and taking no shop .

it's hard to use I think yeah half press is harder .

to use and I should be the half press takes some real like like tacked. I should get used to how much pressure for no.

no, no, no, no, no. I was making sure that I wasn't doing IT. I think the alf press is pretty easy.

You get a double p double half Price to bring up the menu and you only want to took, yeah, what you probably just did worked. And then you swipe back and forth and there is a little bit momentum with the swipe. So you swipe like with extra speed, you can go two or three instead of one. The moment got.

I hate that I think .

they need Better acceleration on the saving IT feels to me like it's not sensitive enough.

K, personally, I think the half clicks not bad, but the double half click is tough yeah.

double half clicking is really tough yeah just doesn't feel intuitive. And it's interesting that they put this button on the regular iphone sixteen as well. Like when they're giving you all these additional settings like they giving you like apache control, which fake capture porter mode.

porter mode H I in portrait doing this just makes me feel like i'm holding my phone. Yeah like in a very precarious way. And that is going to all out. And yeah.

thanks. I think with the iphone, the power of defaults again is really strong here. I think i'm predicting that ninety something percent of people will never know what this camera control thing does, other than if I press, I take a picture.

Yeah, I think that's what much people end up doing with IT. But there will be some protests in some youtube videos s that show you how to take advantage of IT. And on the pro iphone, this is something that people who are really into the smart photography will get into.

You can do a lot with IT. Third party apps are going to build in control for IT as well. It's going to be kind of powerful, but IT only does things that you can also already do with ARM screen control. So it's not like you .

necessary watch you try use that in mode. I'm scared that phone is going fall. Yes, he looks so all of your fingers are within the bottom twenty five percent of that. What.

you know, my tickets, they should have ignored portrait mode. If this is if you are a pro video user or whatever, you're turn in the phone sideways, even though that's technically not trying more with all the vertical content online. Turn a sideways is now you're using camera control.

which is why I think they could have put IT just in the pro camera and they could call that like pro camera and that yeah pro camera control and then theyve differentiator to buy the profile. I hate advocating for this.

No, no yeah right. Both of you leave .

IT in perspective. Yeah yeah. Because one of the teams this year is actually how good the standard of one sixteen is.

Yes, they've brought a lot of things that has eques around now just like the prophet es. It's got a pretty good I mean, there's still a gap between the cameras, but a pretty good set cameras. Um IT has the camera control like the pro phones now as well.

So there's a lot of things that they've done with the base phones that make IT convincing. I personally, and i've said this probably every time I talked about the cyphers, can't use a sixty hours phone in twenty twenty four. I can sorry, I just can't do IT. But if you can, then the only difference between this and the pro phones is going to be cameras and bigger screens .

IT feels like every twist years there's the year were like the pro and the regular have this huge delta between them and IT seems really obvious ous. And then two years later, like these are almost exactly the same except promotion and one actually yeah, and they just keep going back and forth on this. This feels like one of those years where you really need hundred twenty hearts and the extra camera.

where else there is no point. There are a lot of like small things that if you're a really hard work per user, useful like the USB transfer on the regular one is still be two? Or is this three point one on on the prophet stuff like that? Yeah, there's also other stuff that they didn't explain very well that I didn't even know until we talk to them in the briefing.

But IT was like both of these funds the main cameras, forty eight megaplex el and both of them, they call the fusion camera. We need to get like clarity on what that fusion camera thing means and it's effectively I couldn't get them to say this directly, but just like they won't say it's a button, it's basically just a rebranding of their like to x optical quality mode that they had in the last one, which is basically using the inner part of the cameras pixel to do a two x zoom. But the photos tes are not as big who not getting as much late. So it's not optical quality that's like misleading. It's not good but it's effectively yeah it's like pixel binning sort .

yeah it's gave be for turn into one. This is cropping. Yes, it's picture .

that is the same, a mount of effective pixels, but the photo sites are way smaller, right? So you're getting less light and take anyway, the fusion camera thing is basically the them just branding that and they're saying, well, it's different because the sensor is bigger. But something that they never really mentioned out loud is that the sensor in the pro phone on the main camera this year is a lot bigger than the main camera on the regular sixteen. They basically did not say that anywhere.

And it's noticeable yeah to me, like shooting photos and videos. The iphone sixteen pro have a nice shout up the field. Yeah like i'm shooting and I didn't really notice that, that much before.

Yeah, it's really nice in these pros and you also get Better little late performance. So if you're concerned about those types of things, the pro makes a meaningful difference for that. The ultrawise both fine for me. I'm not finding a huge difference there and then obviously have a telephoto on the pro and their five ax on both sides pro and not on the regular because no total photo but yeah I don't not fork at one twenty is nice yeah and .

that's also only in the pro because there's there's two x the transfer on this new sensor that is not on the .

regular one yeah and you can reise through storage before they want twenty yeah like for real so keep that in mind. I think it's like a gig a minute.

Yeah the conspiracy. Y there's no dude third day like I I was in glacier few weeks ago and I was taking a bunch just everything is .

beautiful and .

I was just taking a bunch of purse log footage. I thought I was only using one hundred and twenty out of the two hundred giggs or whatever, and I took eighty gigs of storage from like twenty process log clipsed that weren't even that long. Yeah so my conspiracy theory is that they're trying to make you use as much cloud .

storage as possible. You can shoot directly to an external thunder, able a drive on the pro phones and USB three will transfer enough to do that. I suggest you do that because if you don't, you're going to just .

blast your storage. However, there was a thing because there's like a the or somebody made some sort of attachment that goes on the IT attaches via mag safe and that goes into the USB port and it's supposed to be able to like you can record directly .

to that yeah we we I think using a lot of focus yeah I really .

very little apparently the S D card transfer speed or something is like not fast enough to not drop frames or something like that. So yeah, there's an article D P. Review about IT that I would read just before you .

buy that kind of stuff. We I shot a couple out of focus videos directly to an external drive. IT was fine yeah IT wasn't pro IT wasn't prolog though I was just four k thirty HDR progress .

yeah I think the strong drives are fine. It's when you use the microsoft cards. That's when IT gets kind of yeah .

yeah yeah, but that not a time. I mean, i'm going to review apple intelligence separately from the phones. There's just nothing to say new here that I didn't talk about I S video.

So like in six more, how how long is to take to come out like this is good a long time before it's all out, but went all out. I review IT is just not out yet like I don't even have much to say about that. See review for rent.

But then we can talk about airpower s in apple watch series ten. What should we do first? Uh, air pods. Okay, well, air pods four.

And there is two versions, active nose cancellation and non I cancelation, I can now say that I really tested a lot of back tobac airports, proverbs airport's four of they're only twenty three dollars difference between them. But one of them have silicon tips. One of them dozen, wait hundred seventy nine dollars for airport M, R, P, though you can get on M, S, easy for one.

That's true. And that's like everywhere I am just counting one hundred nine, eight had phone OK, and I raided the area. Pod's pro noise cancellation, like an eight at attention, really good.

The fit in my year is great. And then I would switch immediately to the airport's for the heart trip. And till, like he was a half power like the eric, the noise cancellation is simply not as good physically speaking and makes perfect sense.

There's air gaps around the outside of the heart tip like noises are going to get in anyway. So the tech is working as just IT cannot possibly work as well without a perfect fit in your air. So I said I was like a four five at at ten people got really worked up about that. I'm standing by that like it's not as powerful but if airpower s for fit, like a glove in your ear, good for you.

IT will work Better for you.

That's true, right? And then you get cheaper.

Yeah, I watched the dave two t video about IT and he was like graving about the city. But it's probably just because they fit all in his ears. Where's when we were recording the review? Like you noted your head once and they do every time.

like I put them in my ears. And this is like the first thing I do every time I do ear, but as I put them in my ears and I just see, do I feel like I fit or not? And sometimes there is just this feeling of its like it's slowly ejecting itself for my year slowly and then like sixty seconds later, they just fall out.

So if I get that feeling, I know that the fit isn't great. And if they're silicon tips, I can size up, size down. I can adjust IT with the hard tips.

It's like these will not stand by year period or I will just have to adjust every six seconds and I hate IT. Yeah so that's just me. Like I said in the begin the video, there's two types of people. They they're work in your ears, but I don't so yeah if if airpower s three worked in your ears and I suggest check out their pod s four because they are they're pretty close. They are pretty close.

I think they put A N C in airports for because they were looking at the pods line and they're like this Price latter isn't title up.

I actually think that's a big part of why they have this of future.

Now if if you we're gonna get airports for and you're like what I mean, like I gotten, get him with noise cancellation. Spend another .

fifty box you like .

slater for sure. But then for another, you know, another fifty, sixty box.

like I only really only because there are always on.

And then at that point, two runs up yeah.

I I was gna mention in the video, I think in ninety nine box would have been killer for the base airports. But there they're one, twenty nine. yeah.

I wonder how long IT takes family on sale for ninety nine. But I think that would have been a nice Price for those. Uh there is a lot of competition around eighty eighty books though for that type of product.

You do get also a case with I was charging and a speaker for those fifty dollars more temptation for the Price letter if you haven't seen that short wash IT, it's everything that apple does um but yeah that's the airports. S pro are not different. They just have a software update.

They can make them a clinical great hearing aid, which is cool, which did get F T A provo this week yes. And I think that's also starting to put as well, which is nice, the same will sleep at detection on the watches beginning provo, which is great, actually funny tweet by queen. But he said, I was making fun of IT and I tested IT and I said, oh, I have sleep up so it's a dr. Sick around that .

was a joke and still not get invited to the event yeah um I have like no thoughts on airports except for I really appreciate the he was like pure throw back to old M G H T used to take two pieces of poster board and like just make you physically made them like color separation. And what's funny is IT practically made the stroke because all like poster board on the back is wait and the camera was whie enough. You would see a little bit of the White stroke through .

the medal like and shadow like the White side and a shadow. Yeah, you .

definitely made an airports video that is .

like that in a person.

There's no photoshop in this.

No, that one is that one was on the photoshop. But in the theme of the ones that we used to do with practical effect, yes, I remember those. Oh yeah.

oh yeah. So okay, apple watch .

series ten, it's dinner is bigger OK. Moving on.

Yeah, that's kind of the review. I don't know. I mean, I think my favorite thing about the apple watch series ten, honestly, is just the fact that I know has the one hurts display yeah because I like things that are digital, but act as much like an analog thing as possible.

Are you like that skill? Morphisms, that's right. But but in hardware design, in new myself software, you don't like the second hand yeah the second hand yeah but even though it's not something that I am constantly looking at, I just like that. It's more like a real watch that's cool.

I agree. It's good. yeah. And they didn't put that in the author to what apple did was give us map black.

You thought I would shut up about IT gave us a map. Look, I appreciate the map. Black.

that band looks really good to .

that black and the black man and everything. But i've got this. I switch to the same watch face that I had on the ultra three.

And IT doesn't ultra and IT doesn't. So yeah it's oh, you're right and he doesn't the brighter off access viewing or anything like that. This cream is nice on the ten.

The ark fax thing is also a thing that is that is useful. I don't really notice IT, but you know yeah I would say that this year the serious time is like as close as IT ever been to the ultra because the size is almost the yeah IT now has the depth gage and the water temperature sensor um yeah it's like they are very, very similar watches now it's sort of just like do you want to support your one with dual band GPS yeah and not attract detection .

and I can basic way points yeah yeah I really don't need this. I just thought IT looks cool like this stent the ten in really, really good watch and totally uh usable to anyone who doesn't use the the ultra features who just buses for is just a battery difference at this point for me.

I think the ultra looks way Better though my opinion yeah in general, I think that looks Better. I don't disagree.

So cool.

it's sleep shy.

It's so slim. really. It's my favor.

Apple watches ago. No, take all the people .

at the end of the review, I said like a rotating bezzle or a circular shape or a meaningful improvement to battery, any of these things that we're really can hopeful out of would have been the biggest change to apple watch ever. Yeah, they didn't do any of those things. Yeah, they did a bunch of small incremental things that add up to a nice year of your improvement.

But it's not like some crazy dramatic new watch. It's an apple watches. Looks fine.

I like trying to make the apple watch more like a dress watch the apple watch ultra is like a bolic in watch and then they have like, yeah they cute little like sacred or whatever.

Yeah, I think you can dress up that watch with a nice ban and face, yeah. Ula, yeah, that's true.

I have a funny apple watch thing .

that I just go because I started wearing an ultra. I love alter. So I video years now i'm not particularly brolly have very, very low muscle mass on my body and in fact i'm so screwing that my my risk s of my farms are very flat because it's just bone, no muscle, no meat. And so the crown of the apple watch like digs in the place.

What I turned IT like.

I take IT off the there's like a little like do IT in my yeah it's .

it's not just me no, if I is broad so yeah okay.

I thought that was just my if I .

spend my rist a certain way, especially when it's on the other list, I literally turned the digital crown. And if i'm doing like a push up or like their crawls or anything on the ground, IT holds IT down and I think .

that activates the siren after a while, oh, I turned the sir and off yes like there's no way. Wow well ah I think that says a lot about your your humility markets like no, i'm not that strong but what .

i'm doing the clock I also do have to know um they said IT now charges to eighty percent and thirty minutes. I tested this three times every single time sixty five percent OK.

I want to say that in the announcement I said up to eighty percent, which I remember seeing him being like that wear. And then I think we never mentioned, and I was like, and I just wrong, but i'm like, ninety nine percent sure. Is that up to eighty percent in thirty minutes?

Actually, IT does charge up to one .

hundred percent in thirty. Yeah yeah IT. I think the thing that I noticed is a charge is faster. The beginning of the church. Yeah, that's the one.

Like if I was wearing IT, I remember back when I was wearing IT and doing this sleep tracking with that, I would basically only get to charge IT while I was showing, yeah and I would take a quick shower and IT would be at like some red number, like nine percent. And I go shower and IT come back and IT would be at like thirteen like that's where I have to leave IT on the charger longer. And I come back forty five minutes later and that would be nearly done.

But this one, I can put them on the charger and come back in a short period of time. And it's already started rapidly adding battery. I think that's what i've noticed the most difference. Yeah yeah I haven't measured IT scientifically.

but that's my observation. Also p say you need a fast charging apple watch charger um which they started shipping in the series 7 but if you have like an old like no mad charger something you're not magically gonna get more speed。 You have to buy an updated charger that supports fast charging yeah very up very .

apple and the .

iphone sixteen and sixteen pro also now charge twenty five watts on the new mag safe pucks which shows exactly like the old mag safe pumps. But you have to buy the new ones. So that's also annoying. But now you are 儿 um that's the watch and the watch is the same。 But if you're gona buy a new one, you might as well buy the the new one, the news one, yeah, the news new one with the bigger face and the bride screen and the thirst.

then tail time.

Yeah, you have IT. You have IT. All right. We've got a game to get to, and we've probably already been going for like seventeen hours. So cut this here.

Go watch the videos, if you haven't already, for the full, polished, uh, tightly considered thoughts. Uh, before we take that break though, or more tribe question chivy. good. So we were talking about .

snapshot earlier. And when those spectacles came out, the gen one IT was pretty hype. I remember going to get the first spectacles from a vending machine in the city from one of those pop ups, which was my question.

I want to say if you guys remember that he was eventing machines, like clearly you did. So next question, David said the video was basically one hundred and eighty degrees, you know, like when you are looking at IT on the phone. But that wasn't the field view of the actual camera itself. What was the field of view of the camera itself, the one that has been spectacles and .

field of view?

Of the of the output, not necessarily like what the .

phone and every .

different. So wow, so you put the money to get first person video. IT would occur a circular video.

And IT has a certain field of you. Yeah, what was the fill of you angle? okay.

interesting. I might be guessing. Can we also Prices write? Yes, we are not going to get the exact number.

Okay, I guess. cool. right. Well, think about that answer that like would be right.

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right. Welcome back with our last section of the podcast. today. We've got a bunch of rapid fire things, but I have a little game on to play because they all can feel like they're in the same vein, which I I think I need to give credit to the verge cast for at least putting me on to this idea, which is something or nothing.

There is a very few other podcast, at least same format, but there's a headline that feels like at first, that might be something like a huge deal. And then you think about a little longer, you know like maybe this actually isn't anything at all. I want to you guys as general thoughts and reactions on each of these headlines, and we can fill IT out and figure out if it's something or nothing.

I think there's something here where you don't even you just know if something.

so definitely much quicker.

alright. First one, iphone period weekend demand was lower than expected. Now at first seems like IT could be a big deal, but some details.

Overall, iphone sales were down twelve and a half percent. Year of your verse iphone fifteen cells at the same point. Uh, pro series as the main slump.

They're down twenty seven percent and pro max is down sixteen percent, but the base sixteen plus was up forty eight percent and standards of ten percent. So you're kind of clearly the base ones are more popular this year, but the prom x is still the most popular by far. Something or .

nothing? Something something because we talked about how the regular phones are really exciting. And clearly, the industry is like regular people are agreed sales even if they don't like listen to our podcast .

yeah they .

do all of the people who and listen the pot I think yeah yeah feels even though it's funny .

because you say that you you're like, oh, regular one is up forty eight percent and the right in the process down twenty seven percent. But still, the prom x uh, the volume ship was seventeen point one million units, and the regular, the regular unit was seven point three million. So maxes were run away.

The pro maxi is like insanely popular. wow. yes. OK, yeah. Nobody is buying the plus home. No one is buying the plus, which is really actually crazy.

Yeah only two point six years because they climb the latter and they're like in the middle of the latter at that point. That's true. I give you the basic phone, you get the best iphone.

That's if you're already talking about climbing letter and you've gone up is IT one hundred or two hundred dollars the plus it's seven ninety nine to eight ninety nine. It's one hundred dollars and so it's one hundred box. You've already one to eight ninety nine and with just another hundred yona profound, that's true.

sure. So I get IT. But yeah but then you want to if you're going to climb again, you just going to get the biggest battery in the biggest cream.

Okay, just get the promise right, Andrew. Any something or nothing thoughts? I, yes.

but the prom x is two hundred .

dollars more than the regular pro. IT starts .

at two fifty six inside one, all the regular police starts at one twenty. Everyone starts at one twenty eight. Except for pro max is so they made a love and ninety nine and two fifty six to start .

so they .

really hike you up the last round of the two hundred box. Ah um and okay.

if it's nothing I don't know it's I still in iphone and is still controlling eighty percent of the american market or whatever.

So yeah, I think it's I mean, it's interesting to see more people buying the regular models. And if you ought a regular model, tweet us because I want to know if you ought the teal one because it's the best color yeah, apple never does color break downs and I wish I didn't know the color breakdown. The pink is problem.

Be really popular, you think so every year we rave about some of these colors and then people buy black and my phones, it's like cars yeah .

like in the most .

part of their car models by country are either black, White or dish at the same time.

it's only the pro models that usually add the boring colors. And they do make a lot of color for base model phones.

My out of nowhere heart take is that if they made a colourful prone, no one would buy IT sure IT would be immediately the least popular yeah, because the people who are spending more on IT you want the black and White.

You don't think the people's .

winning more will .

be flash here. No, I was almost going to say like baby, the reason this is down year over year verses I fifteen well, there's no like really flashy physical thing that screams i'm using the newest iphone because it's all this apple intelligent stuff that's coming like three, four months and like people more about, hey, this person knows i'm using the latest iphone .

beyond the colors two, they changed the camera on the standard ones. Where is close? Look exactly .

the same. So good point. Here's another one. Another one for you. Flappy bird is coming back that that dot.

but it's .

clipped out what I wrote.

But it's not but it's happy flappy bird coming back. huge. I remember floppy bird.

I didn't play that many games back in the day on my phone. I rem flappy moment. Everyone knew a plapper. And I guess the IP is being purchased and resurrected, is coming back, not really purchase? Yes.

yes. So this story is really sad. The original creator of flappy bird, I don't if you guys remember this, but he voluntarily took the apps off the APP store because he said that he was too addictive.

He had the opportunity to, like, be a billionaire this APP. And he was like, I don't like that people are being really addicted to this. I'm going to pull off the APP star.

So he pulled up up the f star immediately. Some sort of firm decided to like chAllenge the IP for IT because I got pulled off the APP store way back in like twenty fourteen. Nothing really happened with IT.

And then recently, a couple of years ago, they basically filed the emotion with the U. S. Trademark office that they should have IT because he wasn't using IT and because he lives in vietnam, he didn't get the notice to respond to the notice, so he didn't.

And then they basically took the rights for the IP um just for the title, so they can't like use his like asset to our music or whatever OK. But um no they are now then have this whole new flappy bird is back website where they have like new birds. You can play with new levels. And at first, this seemed very cool until you look into like the company's history and all of the stuff they have done with kyp do in the past, there is also this flap token that is like inside of the code that they and you're going to be to connect IT to a frequent Crystal.

everything you say from here. And that sounds like a parity.

So col, I too would be amazed that's only have to say.

like omegle ypo.

this could have been an episode of.

oh god, in.

That's yeah um i'm going to say it's nothing because I don't think people are going to care when when I really launches, especially be with the grip those stuff. You also like something like bb bird that could have been a phenomenon in two thousand and thirteen people. It's not it's not flashing enough anymore.

Like yike c was popular back then. There are zillion apps like yap. There are zillions apps like flap paper .

like and we flappy bird, there is there is a game on like a the old flash game websites that I can think ounds s just a helicopter doing the same thing way before flap.

Yeah but that was before you had like things that were Better than that, were that accessible?

Yeah like what i'm just saying is like I felt it's phenomenon, not even because of the mechanics, just all the at the right time. Don't ys .

guys clearly on the website.

the flappy er is new flappy er website because there's new characters.

There is a super mario style over world. There is a bunch of mini games.

Looks cool.

The flappy bird, the F, B, C, U, is a honor.

IT looks relatively cool. But as soon as you.

as soon as the crypto, I think .

I look cool. Well, I think I do like .

the supermarkets, the world. That's cool. yeah. Anyway, i'm also going with nothing, nothing. Yeah, i'm gonna the only one thing.

This is gonna something. I think it's gonna news for one day.

I don't think anyone's gonna .

care that it's script. There is going to hear five birds back .

and start planning IT. I hope it's something, and I hope that something is a giant dumpster fire.

Yeah, if they get investigated by the fcc and coffee sala and then .

IT gets going to make a coffee pto zoo.

how about about la token?

right?

Speaking of things, I really like a parity. Here's another one. Word is now available in virtual reality. Something huh .

less than .

nothing in the good body plan. There is an official word APP media st. headsets. And I first read the headline. I was like, that sounds cool.

Maybe i'm just like loving like letters into a box and like a baseball game. It's just like a screen floating in that it's nothing. It's definitely nothing you know know even yes.

not only that, and the new york times is too lazy to also add connections and some of the other popular games that is .

only word that speaks to like the people. I think the nostril cash grab is my personalise favorite like y tech thing that happens every couple months, years like, hey, remember this, you liked IT well, it's back. Like, okay, I need something more than that. This is that this is like, hey, world to. And speaking as the probably the last person here who still plays world like almost every day, this I I also think that .

things being labeled as V, R, when IT is just a screen of the things loading screen, is not really VR.

Yes.

agreed.

Like this needs to be like my task APP idea. Like, like, not the thing that you can do with the r is you can raise the stakes, man. Like, I think you get your first word wrong, bro and like, maybe like something slightly scare, become shein and like a liking what you your wall, oh my good. So what if you like all les in your house, like falls down, you know, by the time of one left, you should be like, in mustapha road, there be lava and dinosaurs. And like, this should be high stress, high stakes world.

There's so much up community for old two, three games to be put into V, R, and make them fun. I want V R, tatches where you're standing at the top of the game board and you have to no, no, you have to jump down the shoot as the piece like you're like pair shooting out of a plane except you're standing .

on the top .

of the yeah and you make the shape as you go down and go back.

The unit .

is like, tech moves so fast.

how would you possibly wait, be so down for? Sorry.

I play speed halo back of the day. I just like that. Hello.

speed halo. No, no.

I do a time for .

the halo too.

Let's save IT again. If you played speed halo back in the day, I see you.

I just pictured somebody wearing of the ahead said, doing like the day on dance, make shape on the ground. Uh, good time. Okay, so that's yeah that's nothing, definitely nothing.

Okay, here's never had less a beats by jay make iphone cases. Now we have two from my hea. They have a support for the apple camera control. They are fifty dollars. They show every fingerprint you have ever had something or nothing.

unfortunately, something, oh, no, because the name and alone will sell a lot of cases. Number one, I think.

do they sound good?

Have a question that has the magazine logo on the back? Yeah, you know, easily. This could just been the beast logo and still match up with the mac.

And are you when they had these meat?

And that is a genius .

right here on the side that could, just this time right here.

the, and they could have had a slightly differently colored to show the mag safe portion then.

oh my god, that shows how much that probably there were. Like, hey, way, we got to, like seven, eight cases. You could you like, spend up two or three more? Yeah.

do you think they were? Like, we have got this new material for apple, first party cases. But the really finger pretty. What fine woven was .

apple branded and IT didn't go well. So if we just brand IT something different and IT doesn't go well.

we're not really liable. Sorry, that was jay.

Yeah, you go to beats website. It's headphone, headphones, headphones, headphones, headphones, ear buds, ear buds, ear buds speaker case.

that's so weird. What do you wanted to make next?

Do you make a back to do something crazy? We are.

I say unfortunately something because I even know I don't personally think that the brand matters. A people probably do um it's the same Price as the apple T P U cases and you're getting the beats brand ah.

I think that you think they will see more after this. I think there's a .

trial run yeah I grew .

David as in these will sell, but i'm interested as if they will progress OK .

yeah warm between something and nothing. Last one um youtube has announced a new feature and i'm not really sure what it's called, but it's a place where they've accumulated the top one hundred most hyped videos by small creators. I just call youtube hype or the hype leaderboard is what basic and so the high the high pressure called hype okay hi yeah the feature called hipe.

okay. So what happens is this is a top one hundred list of video, those that are all under one week old and all upload by youtube creators with less than five hundred thousand subscribers. So it's a place to surface is by smaller creators.

And the way that they rise and fall on this chart is by gifted hype. And everyone, everyone on youtube has three hype per week that they can give to a new video by a small channel. So the videos at the top of the most hypes in this one week period, and there is a top one hundred sorted by category. I think that everything there is to this, you know, we .

don't .

webbs if people to.

I want .

episode could show up here. The last thing.

I think is ribes so that we can use this. Yes.

the last thing is, if you run out of hype, let's save, giving you three ready. You come across a bang away for a episode. You can buy another hype for two dollars. So microtron .

action I I have to take about this one. That's what the gash down like button is for you idiots. Two, this is just a way for youtube to like they looked at what redit with redit gold because redit gold was a similar thing where like I didn't really do much, but you paid real money for IT and IT was a way that is like, say, thank you, this was really good content. And even though I think they're got rid radical, which is insane, by the way, because that's like that was a really good free money maker for that.

they also did IT on the sense of like A P D S. Ford donation is like you are not getting anything out of IT little things but like he used to be IT used to say you've helped fund this many seven hours of like well.

when I was more about the community and less pockets exact um yeah but my hot take is that youtube to that and they were like, oh yeah like you'll feel like you're supporting a creator if you hide them because you're buying hopes for two dollars and it's like, okay but then you're just paying youtube which by the way is not like a small website that has to be funded by the community and you could just pay the creator money yeah .

changes are they have like super chats available the video yeah and IT .

feels like feels like this is also my concern about this is that IT feels paid to in like you could just the body accounts that are just being spam created. You could just pay a bunch of dollars on all of these both accounts makes money .

yeah here's a there that's what they are aiming that ah because no way that two dollars are however much money you'd have to spend to be on this leader board that no one's going to look at um is worth the amount of user going to get .

out of our leader board yeah yeah so is the way this works just like the most type video show up on the letter board that's .

so much literally paid a win yeah yeah. I mean.

you get three free hpc. And yeah.

I think most types will be the free hpc, hopefully. sure.

Here, here's my other story that makes no sense. OK miles has been talking about those bots that just post six names. Have you seen those? It's like in the comment section just I just will say like six names in the new wave. Yes, somebody was making the theory that that's like you flagged comments and that IT games trust in the the user data was 是 so now my thought is those people knew this was coming。 So they're trying to meet as many accounts that are now trusted .

because I think on a .

live elon.

must I feel like I can verify the first half of your theory, which is that um i'm going to create some at this week. There's always questions about spam accounts that come up and every time youtube positive to address that, they basically say the same thing, which is spam accounts will always be a thing yeah because there's always something to gain from them spamming and from youtube. Es, and is basically a giant game of waco.

We develop a new system to help determine which are real, in which ones are spam. And then spammers figure out that system and then figure out a specific hack to determine a way to make their account look real again. Then youtube wako develops a new system to find a way.

So they're just going back and for trying to cover up, stamp over and over again. And I think what you're saying is totally valid, which is one of the newest systems. Youtube properly developed, was a way to go.

Look, if you just create an account yesterday and you've left one hundred comments on one hundred different videos, that's probably span. But if you have a four year old account or you've left a bunch of comments on a unch of other videos that didn't get flag this spam, then you're probably a real person. So we will give that a little more benefit of the doubt.

And so what they've decided to do is just leave a bunch of not so spammy innocent looking comments on a bunch of random videos to gain that algorithmic trust so that they can then go spammed, so they're generating reputable looking account, so they can go spam. I think that's actually was happening. Those those and I think at some point, youtube, weah, youtube will have to figure out a new thing.

Maybe it's like comment frequency or or style of like repeating the same comment over over. Maybe that will will get you flag. Like there will have to be new systems that youtube develops, walk all, then they will continue to develop new spam ways to get around.

That is just something we constantly see him like. I feel like it's like six week windows so yeah this is a new wave. Um I I have like two two text about this right thing.

One is IT will be dead year, months, month, not even a year. The other is this kind of does exactly what youtube always, as the algorithm is supposed to do, which is surface content that you like based on engagement. And like you said, we have a like button, we have a comment section.

Youtube supp posed to surface videos s no matter how small or how big the creator is to the people that want to see IT. Yeah, this is like a nice way of us of like, feeling like we have the power. Like, yes, this is a video that we brought to the attention of that always true with own ageing. So I like, yeah kind of cab me yeah do you .

know think .

algorithm can do make you pay too? And I think yeah.

guess it's a one for youtube you too to feel like they're giving us a little bit of power like, oh yeah, see you made this video chart because the training pages never are direct input. But now also.

that makes some money from type. So i'd rather have three free super dislikes.

Super I on I super just like a video.

Now I can see all the dislikes .

and then .

people.

I think about that youtube that there will be major drama around this within two weeks of launching because there will be some exploit that some channel does and there be a cyp to there will be a cyp to video in the top one hundred hundred videos than the first two weeks. Um and then my other prediction is that IT will be gone in six months.

Yeah yeah.

I think is I think it's really cool. I think I don't know what you guys are talking about this. Do you like first look because dude, I I so many channels about because when year I live on the b five button case subscribed her side of youtube like that's my surrey butter and I notice a lot that like when you're a small channel, you're not making a tonne revenue off of IT.

You go on hot streets, you don't mean where they'll put out like five or six videos, just mac, there's so good and then you will go back to see you're sort of like average level. And the feeling I get is a fan when I watch one of those videos where i'm like, yeah, the student on a hot street right now, like everything is like kind of flames. And I would really like the ability to signal that i'm someone who's very familiar with this person's videos.

And this one is a special video that I think is the potential to reach a broader audience. And that's something that the likely n doesn't do because if you're not part of that creators, established audience and you get served the video, you can like IT. And I does give the algorithm like a valuable information.

The algorithm serves me great content, but I really like the ability to say, like, go here, i'll do cortina. Victoria's last video that hit SHE only has thirty thousands or fifty years, whatever. Having small channel, that person is not going to get traction. And the algorithm, without people who know the.

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problem is a list of one hundred people a week, the competition to get there is extremely high, thirty thousand. And this can go up to five hundred thousand we've lost already. They're not can have .

enough people versus my o my life and .

that person I got.

Yeah sh'd be so much .

happier if you just did the thanks button to and gave her two dollars and said, this is a really sweet video I super appreciated. Or join the membership aspect.

IT also way more fun if IT was like craters below fifty thousand subscribe. Well, yeah.

that to put the line somewhere is a lot of shorts channels that they claim .

in the thing that five hundred thousand is where things really we .

make a change or change, which is a very twenty, twenty four number. I think that would have been lower years ago. Yeah yeah. I I think like you have a good point and like that's what this feels like. It's for I just feel like the algorithm is already doing because of the signals that everyone gives IT. If people who haven't watched a channel before show put a video and oh, this is sick, I haven't seen this and like IT the algorithm es, oh, you d like that I got all the latest bankers from this .

channel service .

and also not to destroy my own point, but all of these small channels I did .

find on the same exactly .

yeah ah so yeah but I still think it's tight and I will be happy. I'll be to swap. I'll be happen you tons of small channels to get ready.

see when this launches will see what happens. So safe way from gets any high yeah high us .

yeah is five before.

And if you're gna pay money to help us, instead of paying money to hy us, just like I M the already what IT needs past the point where we can be hyped.

go on your family members phone, enable R C S update and then like and subscribe and .

then have till we can anymore. The only thing about the algorithm is if you subscribe to a channel and then don't watch the videos I come out, that actually a negative algorithm, really.

H that's my super.

So just keep that in mind. Anyway, I think we've reach the end of our six, our podcast, which means it's time 纯粹 的。 I'm sorry.

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long as pocket.

About time.

All right. So R, C, S. Is officially here on the iphone. Google did IT or somebody.

The european union did the european union. yeah. Apple did not care about what google was.

That was a, so that was, anyway, yeah, but he took a really long time to get here. And a long time ago, in the very universe we exist in today, the gsm a, which is a finish mobile handset cellular organizing industry body, announced to the world. They enounce to the world.

We have this thing called R, C, S, or developing IT. We have this huge list of industry players that are on board and get ready for R, C, S, to be on your phone. What year did that press lease come out? Could I have said the question any more clearly that time?

Yes.

also its Prices right?

Prices right way. This is the question I had. You said further .

away from Prices. If you I don't .

like my answer anymore, but whatever, let's try IT. wow. yeah. Is great .

answers on the board.

Guys who wants to go first.

so from lowest to highest, okay.

I have two thousand and five.

Two thousand and five is under the years, so you are not to qualified .

two thousand and seven .

the year not to qualify .

twenty thirteen unfortunate about .

thousand twenty .

is in fact two thousand eight I thought .

was two thousand eight. I didn't want to go over two thousand .

anyway before I pass them back to my lovely cohoes. Adam, let's recap the scores real quick because they're look at a little crazy behind mars seventeen points the place, uh, death. The listener who wrote to us about, uh, text now, one point, David piers, one point, Alice, Carry the one google actually in last place with minus three points.

And Andrew a. David tii, oh, with twenty one point. exciting.

I did have some support for my blue hiller.

Just me. What what are they saying that? Yeah, now that was all the first.

When I haps, the guy is smart, is out of next me. I gotto differ to him, you know. Anyway, adam, take you away. Adam.

i'm making this podcast twenty five more minutes. No, lue.

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