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are missing David, but that's okay. He'll be back soon. And we're going to be talking about a whole bunch of stuff. There's some Google stories. There's the Pixel Watch and some... Why did I say Pixel Watch again? The Pixel 9a and Tensor G5 stuff. That video is out if you want to see it on the main channel. We also talk about Pebble Watch 2. That's what I meant to say.

The end of Google Assistant is also a story we can hit on. And we're going to wrap it up at the end with our keywords eBay game, which is a lot of fun. Yes. But first. Yeah. First, we do. Ellis has a correction. Yeah. I've been waiting for this for a while. I know. Probably the biggest correction we've ever done. I just know it's been eating you up, Ellis. So I just wanted to give you the floor to address. All right. I've made some mistakes in the past, right? I've got some mistranslations in here and there. Whoops. Stuff has happened. This has been insane. I've gotten...

dozens if not hundreds of emails dms like every way people were able to reach out to me they could to let me know that in the 2005 in the 2005 dynaco 400 which was the title race for the 2005 piston cup which lightning mcqueen stuck out his tongue to finish all facts i said that it was a tie

And Lightning McQueen did not win that Piston Cup. Zero Piston Cups. For those of you that don't know what I'm talking about, I'm talking about the Pixar movie Cars. That I got one random thing. The man has seven Piston Cups. He has seven. That's huge. He has seven. It's like... All right. Look, I'm well aware this would have been Lightning McQueen's. It would have been the first rookie to win a Piston Cup.

I'm well aware that in the makeup race or the points evening out race at the Los Angeles Motor Speedway a few weeks later, Lightning McQueen chose to not race and make a stand. I don't care. Stop messaging me about cars.

It was a joke. It was not that serious. I was talking about car of the tongue. I do remember like a Stephen A. Smith clip where someone asked him to compare like Lightning McQueen as one of the goats. And he like went into his whole rant about like, he doesn't have enough piston cobbles. He doesn't have enough championships. And I thought that was pretty great. You know, the Cars fans, they know the movie well. You know, and yeah, just thanks for letting me know, guys. But like...

And don't let him forget. Yeah. Gosh. Yeah. Seriously. Anyway. I have one more quick cool thing to show off. Do I get to call this fan art? We had somebody who is a keyboard creator make us a custom waveform keyboard, which is pretty sweet. So it's mosaic. This is his...

I should figure out the name of the keyboard before I say it out loud. But he has like a cool little MKBHD slot here for everyone wondering. It's just black, but it has a red top, kind of like greenish colors. And then WVFRM are a little more bold in the characters. I like that. That is so sick. I walked in and I was like, oh, and you made like a little custom keyboard. That's cool. It's so heavy. I just want to figure out the name of it. The System 65, but...

Pretty sick. I kind of think this has to be our typing alphabet typing test default keyboard now. Keyboard. The spacebar needs a little work, but that's my fault. What'd you type? Marquez is awesome. I typed this is the coolest keyboard twice.

Sounds very slow. By the way, we're working on a keyboard video for the studio channel that is unhinged and I'm extremely excited for it. In fact, one of the parts that I bought for one of the keyboards is so absurd that I think I have to take it out of the video. So keep an eye out for that. But let's get into it.

The news. The first thing that's showed up on my timeline was a Pixel Watch coming back. You keep calling it a Pixel Watch? That's the third time today. It's not even called the Pebble Watch. It's like when you type the wrong word and it's autocorrected and you delete it and you type it again and it autocorrects again. My brain keeps autocorrecting it to the wrong word. Stop fucking doing that. I think it's fair to let everyone know that you and Ellis landed on a flight at like 7 a.m. this morning. Yeah.

There might be some sleepy talk here. It was two days ago, get up, you know, 4 a.m. to catch a 7 a.m. flight, land, shoot, three-hour drive, shoot, hour drive to the hotel, wake up, hour drive, shoot all day, airport, land at 7 a.m., sleep on the couch. Yeah, I was just sleeping on the couch in my car this morning. But, okay, pebble...

We're calling it the Pebble Watch announcement because it is a company from the creator. What's Eric? Do you know how to pronounce his last name? No, but I'm going to try. Yeah, Mijikowski. Mijikowski. Mijikowski. Thank you.

So he created a new company called Core Devices. I think you all talked about this a few weeks ago. We did. And I missed that conversation. So I don't know what you all said about it. We knew that this was coming. We didn't know exactly what it would look like or how it would manifest. But the idea of bringing a simple smartwatch back that pairs to your phone

appealed to basically all of us. We thought that was a cool idea. We had a lot of nostalgic thoughts about our old Pebbles and how much we liked them and how E-Ink seems to be a great idea and a long, long battery life on a smartwatch could be awesome. So now we actually can see what it looks like, which is about what we expected, I would say. Same shape. It's a new company called Core Devices, and they announced two watches that they plan on bringing out this year. And same shape, you are very right, because while this isn't actually Pebble, it is still a

along the same lines of what Pebble was when they were eight years ago, I think. So open source operating system, it's like E-ink technology

display, great battery life. And in fact, they're using some old Pebble parts in some of the watches. That's nice. So yes, it does look similar because the Core Duo 2, not a confusing name at all considering that's an old Intel processor. Core 2 Duo. Yeah. It's called the Core 2 Duo. It's called the Core... Core 2 Duo. The same name as the Intel chip. Core 2 Duo, yeah. And they said this is basically...

The Pebble 2 Redone. Sure. So it's coming in at $149. It is the same frame as the Pebble Time 2 because they found someone with a bunch of extra parts that were never used. So they're literally using the same watch face exterior for it. Black and white paper, e-paper display, 30 days of battery life. It now has a speaker in the device to chat with AI assistants. And this one should be coming out in July. Okay.

So that's the cheaper of the two. Then they also have the Core Time 2 or Core 2 Time. No, I don't know. This is Core Time 2. Time 2. That's probably why I got confused. Slightly confusing. This is the more updated device, $225. It's going to have a touchscreen. They don't want it to have super complicated apps, but they just still want...

The ability to navigate through touch operation versus only buttons. There still will be buttons. It's still 30 day battery life, still has a speaker. It has an upgraded chip that can do step and sleep tracking. And there's no official date on this, but they still said 2025. Yeah, I like the way it looks a lot. I remember reviewing and having, I had a red Pebble with a black band and

And the super long battery life, like week plus battery life was already awesome about it. And getting used to testing all these other smartwatches like Moto 360 and Galaxy Watch at the time, which had like a day and a half battery, just made me...

I could have a week-long battery life on a smartwatch. So that was the number one thing I really liked. Obviously, the screen's not going to be nearly as bright or beautiful and won't show as much stuff. But if you don't care about that, if you just want time, temperature, basic status stuff, notifications, that's kind of all you need. And I am excited for these. Yeah, me too. I kind of think I like the cheaper one better because...

I've been realizing, you know, I'm now like two years into wearing this all the time and just... What is it? My Phoenix 9. I forget exactly which one it was because they switched from the Epix brand, but Garmin. Yeah, the Garmin. I'm convinced this like circle is just like engraved into my wrist at this point. Every time I take it off, I go, that can't be good for me. I took off my watch the other day and just was like, oh my God, what is that on your wrist? Yeah.

Yeah. It is the mark of having used a smartwatch for a long time. It is. So I'm assuming the cheaper one though, because it doesn't have the chip for sleep tracking and stuff. I'm assuming it doesn't have, it's just flat on the bottom. And I mostly just at this point want to tell time and get basic notifications. So that seems kind of awesome. It seems also like this will be probably better for Android than for iPhone. It says it in, yeah. And a lot of these articles, it specifically says it's still having some. The idea behind that is,

Apple, when they make a first-party accessory to the iPhone, gives themselves more access to the iPhone than they give anyone else. So when they make headphones like AirPods or whatever, they don't give other Bluetooth headphone manufacturers the same access. And so inherently there will be features in Apple's accessory that aren't in others. That's true about...

go down the accessory list about everything. And so smartwatches, they give lots of things, like lots of plugs to the Apple Watch that they will not give to any other smartwatch.

android on the other hand is android this lets you flip the switches turn on notifications for certain things turn them off for certain things and as a android user i mean i use both phones but apple watch over here for the iphone i'm happy to drop a pebble on this wrist and i think no i'm gonna be the dual watch yeah i will not allow it to watch there's something about having like the super simple pebble watch on one hand and the apple watch ultra 2 on the other i gotta put because this

A lot of the comments are echoing the same thing. Like once you have an Apple Watch, it's hard to give it up. You kind of get addicted to the notifications, the closing your rings, the things that it's good at. And I don't want to stop using the Apple Watch, but I also feel like I would flip it to theater mode and just kind of ignore it on my left wrist while I use the pebble on the main wrist. Yeah, I'm at the point where I still love this Garmin watch and I love the battery life. But at this point,

I just don't have the time to go out and hike like I used to. So like this thing looks brand new where my epics two looked like it went through a war. That thing was used. It was used. Yeah. And like,

But I can't... I like the just quick time and the quick text message checking. So I think I just want... But if you were on iOS, you would also run into the same problems with your Garmin. Similar ones. Yeah, they're saying specifically not being able to reply to notifications inside with an iPhone or connected to an iPhone with Pebble. Yeah, like Garmin has the auto replies. You can reply like, okay, yeah, like just the basic ones. You can't even do that on iOS. It's so funny. I've been...

like lane's been asleep on me like i've been in her rocking chair and claire's texted me i only have my watch to reply and i have to be like which of these seven replies best like explains what is happening now it's just like okay period let her decipher that one good enough yeah

- That is funny. - I do have one other smartwatch. - Yeah, what is this? - Maybe we shouldn't call it a smartwatch. But since we're talking about watches, I saw this. And we're talking about simple watches. This is the Atari 2600 MyPlay watch that just got announced. It is $80. Like Pebble, it feels extremely basic.

maybe more simplistic in some ways. There's no Bluetooth or Wi-Fi on this, so there are no notifications, but it's a watch styled after old Atari systems that can do some very basic fitness tracking, like step count, heart rate, and calories, except you can't send it to your phone. It's just on watch. Yeah, it's not going to connect.

But there are three, so there are four Atari games you can play on it. Centipede, Missile Command, Pong, and Super Breakout. On the watch? On the watch, and it also has just like watch bands and watch faces that are very Atari-like. And Old

or Atari sound effects for your alarms and not notifications, alarms and timers. I'm developing a hot take in my head. I don't think it will be that hot. I just feel like nostalgia gets used to mask how bad products are sometimes. And if you build an entire product around one nostalgic thing, red flags just start going off in my head. And if I am part of the generation that cares about this thing, I'll probably just ignore it and just buy it because I love it. But I...

Why would I want to play Brick Breaker on my watch, you know? First of all, Brick Breaker is not one of them. Oh, sorry. Snake. Which one is the scary ones? Centipede, Misfit Man, Pong, and Super Breaker. Do I want to play Pong on my watch? You're damn right you want to play Pong on your watch. So I have a question for Adam that I think might answer your question on this. It's like...

It's 80 bucks. This is not the most expensive watch because this, you know, I think we like watches like Garmin and Apple because they connect to our phone and therefore it feels like we have to wear them all the time, right? We're always tracking our health metrics. We're wearing them all the time. Since this doesn't do this,

Is this now just a watch that is part of your watch collection, Adam, that you wear at certain times? 100%. I was going to say this looks like a watch that David would like because David wears like an old Casio that he had like someone rebuilds into some custom thing. This is that for him. This feels like a watch that's part of your watch collection and depending on the day you

There are people that will just say we break this one out. Quirky watches. What day the airplane? To the wedding? Airplane with no Wi-Fi. You want to play some Pong on the tarmac. Because you know you have a phone, right? I'm just trying to picture, okay, today is the day I wear the Atari watch because I'm for sure going to play. But do you have Pong downloaded on your phone?

No. So, there you go. Fair. Okay, I forgot to download it on my phone, but I will spend $80 to have a watch that does it. It looks pretty cool. It does. I'm not going to lie. It's got these nice colors, the watch band. It's got the retro color scheme on the watch band, too. It's pretty cool. I'm okay with, like,

I mean, this obviously is like we're 100% nostalgia. That's all we're going after for. I'm not saying $80 is the cheapest, but $80 is probably the... You know, if this was $25, I would just assume it's a piece of e-waste. In watches, that's a splurge. You can easily convince yourself to spend $80 on a cool little digital watch. That's so funny. Would you spend $80 on a...

an emulator app on your phone to do the exact same things. No, absolutely not. But you would spend $80 on a... Because $80 in an app world is a lot, and it would probably be better, but it's a lot in the app world. $80 in the watch world is a little, so you would spend it in the watch world. Yeah, it's hardware. Interesting. There's a piece of like...

having it and being able to see it on you that's different than an emulator app. It's still jewelry at the end of the day. Like it's just trying to tell people something about yourself. Like I'm an Atari nerd. Yeah. And I like fun watches. Physical watch for sure. If I spend $80 on a Pong app, no one knows I bought that app. Yeah. Until you break it out on the plane and the guy next to you is like, whoa. Oh my God. Is that the $80 Pong app? God, you're cool. I wish I had that.

I have one more quick thing here. BYD announced charging tech that is twice as fast as Tesla's. Did you see this? This one, I also saw the headline, so I'm going to read it right now. Okay. I can just summarize it for you real quick if you'd rather. Okay. Yeah. I thought you just did. BYD announced their Super E platform that can charge at peak speeds of 1,000 kilowatts or two times as fast as a Tesla V4 supercharger. I mean, obviously, this is a good headline because they're going to directly compare it to Tesla, which is always hot in the news, but I think...

Aside from that, this is still pretty impressive. I think, so they're claiming it can add 250 miles of range on a five-minute charge. Sick. Obviously, I feel like at what point are we allowed to stop saying that it depends on charging curves and battery percentage because this just feels like the metric we talk about. Miles per minute of charging? Like peak miles per... Yeah. Yeah. But still, 250 miles of range, five-minute charge. They said their goal is to get as close to...

petrol refueling as possible. That feels pretty close, no? Maybe to like a low mile per gallon sports car. Like a fill up could be three minutes and you could get 250 miles of range out of that. Yeah, I'd probably have like

almost 400 miles in my tank and it probably takes definitely less than five minutes if you had an empty tank and filled it to full could be like two three in new jersey it's only taking more than five minutes because you don't pump our gas and the guys possibly got like 20 other people but yeah so it's that's that's an impressive number the reason i say i want to read this is because i see these types of announcements with like smartphones before and it'll be like oppo announces 250 watt charging and i'm like is are you announcing that you've

got the ability to do it? Or are you like shipping things that are going to do this tomorrow? So, so far there's only two of BYD's vehicles that can take advantage of this. And so it's the vehicle that can do it. And it's also chargers in the real world that are actually doing it.

I don't know if they just announced it or but there is in here talking about how they're they're building 4000 of these new chargers across China. They're probably starting to build. Yeah, I believe starting to build. Okay. Yeah, that's gonna be sick. Yeah, they've promised a major investment in the infrastructure.

Awesome. With no timetable on it. Yeah. Just to be totally fair here. Yeah. I think what made me the most interested in this is I just got this clip of Doug DeMuro on, is his podcast the Cars and Bids podcast or is it just a Doug DeMuro podcast? I don't know the name of it, but it is the Cars and Bids team. Did you see his clip the other day? He was talking to whoever his co-host is. This car pod. This car pod. Exclamation point. Shouts out to Doug.

So he had this great clip where he's just saying, I drive these Chinese cars and I'm astonished. They shouldn't have sent them to us because now we know how good they are and we're like, crap, we have to catch up. I watched that, yeah. It was a really interesting conversation. Yeah, that went super viral. Yeah.

But like we've been super impressed with the Chinese cars that we've got. When we did the Li Auto Mega. - We've had a couple. - Half the comments were like, this isn't even the coolest thing we have over here. - Yeah, that is very true. There are lots of, I mean, the world of EVs is getting way more competitive and way more like everyone's catching up and making cool innovative things. And this is one of those innovative things, super fast charging, love that.

you saw the leot omega you saw we had the l9 here as well which was in the mega video but that was the the three row suv

We've got BYD making, I want to say, didn't we see, maybe we didn't know, was it a BYD bus? It was a bus with a BYD badge on it, but I don't know if that's the same BYD or like how that bus got there. I've seen other BYD vehicles in the US, so I wouldn't have been shocked by it. What size bus are we talking here? It was like a pretty young dang. Yeah. What? I don't want to know. BYD pretty young.

Oh, my God. It was in San Francisco, somewhere in between San Francisco and Sacramento as we were driving. Wait, hold on. None of you answered how big the bus was. It was a bus. It was a bus. It was a transit bus. Yeah. It was a coach bus. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Thank you. Anyway, I do see BYD vehicles in the U.S. today, which is already pretty cool. But, like, there is that other quote we've talked about multiple times of the Ford CEO driving the Xiaomi SU7 or something. Uh-huh.

Not wanting to give it back. Like, yeah, these cars are getting competitive. They're really good. So, yes, faster charging. Obviously awesome. Hopefully they build these like quickly. That'd be awesome. Random but related. Yeah. Over the weekend, I saw an ID Buzz just driving around.

In Long Island, not even like in the city. In the wild. Yeah, in the wild. Spotted in the wild. I was like mid-country this year. Yeah. Super discounted. Like you can get one used for 60. No way. Yeah. Really that low? That's so cheap. That's so cheap. Yeah. No. A lot of these. This is the other thing Doug said. No, yeah. I saw Doug talk about it. It's like everything has depreciated. These EVs depreciate so fast that even if you're not into EVs, at a certain price, you're

It's a pretty great deal. Like the Taycan is obviously a very expensive EV when it's brand new, but a two-year-old Taycan with 20,000 miles on it is 60% off. And so I didn't watch the whole clip of him talking about that, but is that because we don't know longevity of EVs yet or we don't have a used sales market or he was using a Nissan Leaf is basically free at this point. Yeah, it's because it's kind of like a piece of tech. Like when you think about a two-year-old Android phone that's been used and

and how it doesn't hold its value because the tech is moving along so quickly that there's no reason for it to hold its value. The new tech is just that much better. Why would you buy the old one? But the old versions are still very capable, and for people who only buy a car every couple of years, the fact that you can get what was just $90,000 for $65,000 just feels...

like such a deal. So depreciation is working for a lot of people who are getting secondhand EVs. So that's, that's a very, it's a very trendy thing that is just happening with lots of cars that are. One more question before I know, Alice like audibly gasped looking at something over there. So before he tells us what,

prices i'm assuming he saw do you think like a lot of people buying they're becoming way more mainstream now but a lot of people buying ev who would be buying new ones and selling them is like they're more tech head-esque people and like updating that feels like uh more like you're upgrading your phone or your tech versus then like upgrading your car most people i mean like every car i've ever bought is like

I've bought this. I'm going to take as much time not paying towards the financing as possible once I'm done until the wheels are falling off. Yeah. So I guess for people buying new EVs now, it's definitely still early adopters, but it's creeping into the middle of the bell curve. So I think Teslas are everywhere and they feel pretty safe. Most people are cool buying a new... It's the most popular car in the world, obviously. Yeah.

Um, but in the Rivians and Lucids and a lot of other new EVs, it's still mostly early adopters, but you know, they're proving out there. People are buying them, using them for hundreds of thousands of miles and they're becoming more trusted as time goes on. I will say there's like a, as I have the R2 pre-order, um,

I really believe in Rivian, but every time there's that one article that pops up here and there of like, will Rivian make it to a bow? I just go, man, am I like pulling a Fisker? Not that I think they're like Fisker, but like that's a scenario that's really scary of buying a car that's that expensive. And then a year later. Yeah.

it being a brick pretty much. I've talked about this on the Autofocus channel and with a lot of other tech reviews. When I review a piece of tech, I generally pay no attention to the stock price of the company. I just don't care how the company is doing. I'm a very product-focused person. But the one exception that I've had to make is reviewing electric vehicles where people are expected to own them for six, seven, eight, nine years and it's possibly

It's possible that the company that makes and services it won't exist in that amount of time.

And these aren't off-the-shelf parts that your mechanic has. Yeah, even Rivian now, I'm well aware of very long lead times for replacement parts, repairs, and things like that. I've got a little dent on my hood from one of the first few drives where a little rock dinged my hood. I'm never going to get that replaced. It takes three to five months to get a new hood. So that's just one of those things you have to think about with new EVs today.

So that's why it's still mostly early adopters. They hear that stuff. It's kind of like horror stories. Whatever, I'll just get the standard option and I'll not think too hard about it and I'll get an EV in a couple more years. But yeah, the bell curve is starting to get up there, I think. I also think that people buying EVs, at least originally, were people that could, for the most part, afford it and like...

be able to have that and if something goes wrong they could potentially get another car. Not like a brand new $70,000 car, you know, but like if this thing craps out on me I could still afford to get like a $5,000 beater, you know? Where most people don't shop for cars that way. They will get a used car and run it into the ground. - Yeah, like in the very, very earliest days of EVs that's kind of how it was where if you had bought a Model S or something

For a lot of people that was not their only car and they could rely on I'm going on a road trip I'll take the gas car but oh I Drive the Tesla for you know commuting and other stuff like that that was true of like the earliest days of EVs when they were brand new and very expensive and

Speaking of commuting, Ellis found his new commuter car. Yeah, what are you gasping at over there? Okay, so I found a listing at a dealership in Patterson, New Jersey for a 2012 Nissan Leaf. This is like, I don't know if this is the first gen, but this is like an early gen. Oh, that's the earlier one? Yeah, early gen Leaf. So it's talking like 80 miles of range or something like that? We're talking 73 miles of range. Okay. Charges in just under eight hours. No fast charges. It's blue. Okay.

Yeah. How much do we think this car costs? How many miles does it have on it? It has 43,561 miles. That's a lot of miles for a Leaf. The funny thing is when Doug used this example, he's like, oh no, the old Leafs still have some value to it. It's the new ones that are like... The newer ones were less silly numbers.

The newer ones were like, actually like, seemed like a pretty normal used car price. Oh, okay, really? I'm going in the teens. The teens? I'm going... You're going to rate it one through teens? $16,900. You're saying silly. $16,000? $16,900. Okay, not even the newer Leafs were that much. I'm saying like... Oh my God. Like...

- $4,999. - $4,999? - What if I told you that if this was Price is Right rules, you'd both be disqualified? - No way, really? - This 2012 Nissan Leaf in Patterson, New Jersey is currently on sale.

for $3,499. And I'm not an expert in the used car biz. Maybe someone could explain what's going on here better. But I just looked up the VIN number just to make sure, like, is this a salvage title? Is there something, like, seriously wrong with this car? I found a previous dealer who listed this as sold.

With 22 fewer miles on it. So I don't know if someone bought it, drove it for 20 miles and said, I'm done. Or if that's just test drive mileage. That's just driving it from one dealership to the other. I wonder if a dealer bought it off. But if you live. Or like an auction. Maybe. I don't know. But yeah, so if you live in the North Jersey. Patterson's in North Jersey, right? Yeah. If you live in North Jersey, have 4,000 bucks to kill and want a s**t. I should say that. And want a fine car.

Just for context, that car new was $35,000 roughly. Wow. New? Yeah. Wow. Yep. Yeah. How much are used regular Leafs going for? Actually, at this point, I kind of want to make EVs the eBay game we play later. That'd be the category. But I think eBay automatic is probably. I see it. There's one in Newark 2024 for 19. I see some 2017s for under 10.

It's crazy because those cars, they're not bad. They just have no range. There's a 2020 for $9,000. Americans just hate compact cars for no reason. Yeah. Yeah. It's so silly. We can do it, guys. I like them. Yeah, we all like them. I mean, we all like them.

Believe me, it's one of those I I reviewed the ID for not that long ago Mm-hmm, and I don't think it was a video I think it was just for Top Gear but I did like sort of put it in article form and it is like the I had this segment in the Top Gear articles where I would compare the the EV to a household gadget to sort of contextualize how to think about where this one sits in the market and the ID for was a toaster and

It's just, it's an appliance. There's nothing exciting about it. It's whether it's new or used, you can't even really tell. It's just a car. And that was fine. And it got you from point A to point B. That's what the Leaf is. It's just, you got a car, you got someplace to charge at work. Great, successful, mission accomplished.

That's all you really think about with those. My friend Ian, best friend of mine, has this dream of converting a Subaru Baja into an EV. He does want to paint it cyan so that it can be a Baja Blast. But I really hope one day he accomplishes that dream and has an electric Baja. Don't let your dreams be dreams, Ian. And with that, we should take a break. We'll go straight to trivia, of course.

Trivia. Okay. First question. The term LEAF from the Nissan LEAF is actually a backronym for what? Lex.

Okay, yeah, no, no, I'm just saying like Is it you get all four words and you're right? Is it whoever gets the most words inside it is no I want all yeah, yeah one point for each word It seems really hard, but it's not that hard leaf. It's four words. It's definitely four words. It might not be four words It's it's it's four words. One of them has a hyphen but it's four words. Oh

All right, all right. One point for word. I'll propose one. There's only one point at stake. Whoever gets the most words wins. If we both get all four, then we both get a point. Okay. Yeah, that's fair. We'll see. Okay. Yeah, I didn't know it was back or no. Well, we'll think about that. Answers will be at the end, like usual. We'll be right back.

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- All right, welcome back. Let's talk a whole bunch of the Google stuff of this week. First of all, publish the Pixel 9a impressions video. Just wanna say, the embargo, big red flag.

And I got to use the phone behind the scenes, obviously, and I shot my video. But the embargo specifically said in this impressions video, which is funny, I shot it in the exact same room as the Pixel 8a impressions video. In this impressions video, you are only allowed to show the phone in hand, back of the phone, or the front of the phone, home screen only.

I'm not going to call out any other channels for possibly not adhering to that embargo, but I adhered to that embargo. It is a massive red flag, though, because what have we said? Anytime a company separates out software from the normal impressions process, you're like, okay, so what's wrong with the software? Remember the Surface Duo?

which was kind of a... Well, we all found out why that had separate embargoes. That one became very obvious. But anyway, the phone itself is about what we expected. We've been talking about leaks of this phone for a while. So it's $499. It is their mid-range slash budget end of the lineup for Pixel 9. It removes the camera bar, but it has dual cameras still. They're basically flush with the back of the phone. 48 megapixel regular camera, 13 megapixel ultra-wide. And...

a 5,100 milliampere battery, which makes it the largest ever in any Pixel. And I suspect that using it, it will have a great battery life. A lot of the other features of the phone are very similar to Pixel 9. It's got a plastic back instead of glass, but it's got like pretty flat sides. I see these comments online about the bezels being enormous and maybe I'm just used to testing relatively cheap phones, but it didn't strike me as like horrible. It was worse than a regular flagship, but it's not terrible.

but it has bigger bezels and slower charging and regular cheap wireless charging, but in general, it's about what we expected. It's the Pixel 9a. So if you wanna watch that impressions video, that's there. Update on that is the phone is actually delayed. We thought it would be coming out like sort of right after our videos were. It is actually not coming out now until apparently April. We don't know exactly when, but they're saying April.

We also don't know why. There is some speculation as to why, but that phone is slightly delayed. They just said we're checking on a component quality issue that's affecting a small number of Pixel 9a devices. It happens. Yeah. It's always a small number, but it's always the small number that completely delays an entire launch, which makes me think maybe that number ain't so small.

Well, you know, you can't ship. I mean, anytime. No, fair. It's either like somebody writes an article and the phone's out already and you have to take it back or you just address it now and you delay the phone a little bit. I want to give some credit and I want to make some speculation. Okay. The credit I will give is you still can't preorder it yet, which I think is good because I'm sure there are plenty of other companies that would let a red flagged impression go out, have issues, delay it, but still let people send them money. So I'm glad you cannot do that yet. That's fair.

The speculation, you have to immediately think, is part of the reason this one, like they enforce harder rules on the original embargo and then immediately have something that's a big enough issue that it delays. It's very hard for me not to put those together and be like, was there something they knew about at this briefing? And then they decide not to talk about it later. Maybe, maybe not.

I like to speculate a little bit. - You're like the coincidence I think not guy. - Sprinkle a little drama in there somewhat sometimes, but yeah. - So what do you think? Do you think it is something specific or? - I guess I don't know what, because the thing is is they still let you all use the phone, right? And you still used it and everything felt totally fine. And also,

They're very clearly checking all of those phones to make sure it doesn't have the problem before they're going to let a bunch of people review it. So we wouldn't have seen that issue in our review impressions devices because those are all curated and handpicked. Yeah, and they've even gone so far as to... They're saying they're not sending them out to reviewers yet. Right. Yeah, so...

It seems like there's quite a bit of it because they could send them out ones that they checked to not have the problems and still send them out. And there still could be reviews done on them. I'm glad they're not doing that yet and letting it, but like this whole launch has, like you said, big, big old red flag on it. Yeah. A little damper. I think everyone should be a little, uh,

more careful ordering it and going through the proper, uh, research before. Yeah, I guess spending money on it. I guess the question is, I mean, they're never gonna tell us what the problem was, right? They're never, they're not gonna go, all right, we fixed it. Turns out there was just a vibration motor issue or some of them were shorting out. Oh, they're all fine now. Like they're not gonna tell us. So it's just gonna go unless it's something stupid.

Well, it depends on the severity. Yeah. I mean, if it's enough for them to delay the phone, it's probably kind of significant. So I just feel like they're going to just sell the phone in April and that'll be that. And we're never going to find out exactly what it was unless it leaks, which it's Google. So it might. But I imagine they're just going to put it on sale and it's going to be what we expected all over again just a month later.

That's all I can sort of picture happening. Yeah, I want to try and guess what the issue is, but I have no idea. I have no idea. And I think it would expose a lot of potentially more stuff down the pipeline of why an issue is probably... Maybe they have multiple factories working on it and something for... Remember when the Steam Deck...

Didn't they have two different factories working on it where one installed the fan backwards. So like magnetic cases were causing the fan issue to like stop, or I guess that was a D brand issue, but because there were two separately manufactured steam decks. Yeah. Um,

Yeah, you're probably right. We'll probably never find out. I did say something, though, at the end of the Pixel 8 or Pixel 9a video, which is because, I mean, it was a very short impression. It's like, all right, here's the phone. I can't show you anything, but here it is. You know the specs now. But at the end, I'm like, I also am curious about Pixel 10.

And the reason I'm curious about Pixel 10 is the same as it's been for the last couple months. Tensor G5 possibly having a big performance jump and being at the level of the Qualcomm chips and maybe finally being like a full flagship through and through from the outside hardware to the inside, the specs and the software and competing on every level. And to be honest, I like the Pixel phones, but they are not the highest performers at that max level. So I'm very curious if Pixel 10 is finally going to do it, if it's finally going to be the one that

that flagship through and through level. And then after the video goes out, we get a nice article that seems to pour water on that. And I actually said in the video, I feel like I'm jinxing it by saying it so loud. So here we are. The headline says, Tensor G5's processor might drag down the performance of the Pixel 10 line. It might not be all that we were hoping for it to be. Do you think it's because they're not calling it the Pixel X processor?

Yeah, they should call Pixel X. The 10 feels like a big opportunity. We somehow haven't seen the actual retail packaging yet. It could still do it. We'll know by next week. Yeah. So the Pixel 9a feels like it's good because it has the same chip as the flagships, but that...

That chip is just not a very good flagship chip. So it's like great You're on the same level of performance of the flagships But the flagships are a step behind the snapdragon 8 elites of the world got it So we're hoping for this next tensor chip whatever the next generation is g5 to really step up efficiency Obviously this is gonna have some AI compute stuff on board They all are doing that too, but just in general higher clock speeds more memory bandwidth just more processing

performance in general and it seems like maybe we shouldn't get our hopes up that high and that's sad yeah did you read through this article I read through it and understand very little of it it's a bad week for David to not be here because but I I have a general gist of it I also wrote down some quotes if you just like me to read them off you can read the quotes I can I can sort of translate maybe you can help translate and then I do have an analogy

And you can tell me if it's right or wrong. - Sure. - Okay, so Google is designing its processor without Samsung's help and is going to TSMC to handle manufacturing. Here are some of the quotes that I don't fully understand at all, but I think I have an idea of what's going on. Google's tend to be blending its proprietary designs. The brains and bronze of the chip, the GPU and CPU, are reportedly coming from ARM and Imagination Technologies.

Video codec ditches Google's custom big wave and Samsung's MFC in favor of chips and media's off-the-shelf solution.

Display controller is also switching from Samsung's DPU to Verisilicon's DC9000. Fully custom ISP design entirely by Google, replacing Samsung customized ISP found in Tensor G4. Those seem to be the biggest changes we're expecting with G5. Yeah, yeah. Tensor G4 is designed by Samsung, if you didn't know, which is funny because a lot of people don't. A lot of people don't know that these internal components are made by each other's competitors, like Samsung makes displays for the iPhone. It's all hilarious. Uh...

So when we first switched to tensor in pixels it became interesting because we assumed Google would be doing lots of optimizations for their own thing and it turns out there wasn't that many and now when they can finally design from head to toe their own chip and Get it done straight through TSMC They can switch a lot of parts out from Samsung design parts that aren't necessarily optimized to specific other ones We that could make it perform better Samsung

manufacturers they didn't design manufacturers yes so there are lots of samsung individual pieces on there that are not optimized so ideally things get way better when they are able to control the entire vertical integration uh and so that's essentially what that means and from this article it seems like is tensor g5 this big jump in tech and like

Is it the next big thing for Pixel? It's like a yes and no where performance we're not going to see immediately is going to be this big jump. But the fact that Google has so much more of a say in all of the design process of it feels like a big step for the Pixel lineup and Tensor because now we're getting closer to that from the ground up ecosystem. I think so, yeah. But I also just feel like...

And maybe this is short-sighted, but I just feel like you just need more raw horsepower in general. Okay. Which is like what you get from the Snapdragon 8 Elite phones. Like they just have more power and more headroom and can do more with the higher end applications and games and things that need more power. Tensor just doesn't have that type of power. Do you think it has the potential, you know, maybe this is like they had to take the step back to take two steps forward where like, let's wrangle this more in closer to us. Mm-hmm.

get us designing all the things for maximum efficiency and then you know next year year after they can make more headway on that because it's less um samsung manufactured stuff i think that could be the path yeah okay so that's what we're all hoping for yeah fingers crossed i mean it's not entirely damning this headline it's just the headline says might okay i'm not i'm not gonna give up hope on pixel 10 just yet okay can i make an analogy yes that i

As a film student. This is such a bad take. I can't even believe this is about to be said. As a film student, people are either going to hate me or love me for this or just not understand it at all. This feels like the movie Citizen Kane to me. How, Andrew? Citizen Kane. Okay. As a film major, everyone always talks about Citizen Kane being the greatest movie ever. It's like revolutionary and you need to all see it. And the movie sucks.

I think it's super boring. Do you agree with him? I agree. But the movie itself revolutionized the film industry because of how we shoot things. They did a lot of stuff that has never been done before and just like movies and filmmakers and directors of photography going forward change the way that they shoot movies. So is this, is the Tensor G5 the thing that in of itself isn't that

amazing when we first see it but is this step into completely changing the tensor lineup that's not a terrible take maybe i would just say tensor g1 was citizen kane okay because it was their first step towards doing the whole vertical integration i mean they had other qualcomm chips and google phones in the past and suddenly it's tensor so oh they're going to do their own optimization and they have had to work on that and now that's going to be five generations in

So I see where you're coming from. I feel like that has some legs. We could maybe perfect that. Ellis got me really worried now about saying that out loud, but I don't know. I don't think it's a very good movie. Okay, I just want to point out on the Wikipedia page,

for Citizen Kane. The third sentence. The third sentence. The first sentence. Citizen Kane is a movie. Second sentence. It was his, it was Wells' first feature film. The third sentence. Citizen Kane is frequently cited as the greatest film ever made. That's his problem, I think, is because as a film student, you go in hearing that a thousand times and then you watch it and you're like, what was that? Oh my God. If you don't get a single DM about this, I swear to God, I got hundreds about cars. The only good...

The only good thing about Citizen Kane is that the cheat code in The Sims was rosebud colon semicolon colon semicolon. Don't spoil it for anyone that hasn't seen it. That's all I'm saying. I have not seen it. There's been enough time. Yeah, we might not. I mean, if this is a spoiler at this point, you weren't going to see it. So that's fine. Listen, if you never mind, I'll leave it there. What do we always say? Expectations are the thief of joy.

If you go into watching a movie and someone's already told you that this is the singular greatest film ever created, it cannot possibly live up to that. It's my dad's favorite film. Is it really? Yeah, and I went into that class like, oh, I'm so excited.

Oh, yeah. Jesus Christ. I was so excited. But how many piston cups has Charles Foster Kane won? I think it's my dad's favorite film is A Good Bar. That's a good bar that you can clear. I have a lot of... Watch the movie, you'll be like, oh, I can see why this is your favorite. I've met Adam's dad. He has great taste, so I can't... I don't think that's true. But that's one bar, and then this is the greatest movie you will ever watch is A Very Different Bar. No, that's Tenet.

Inception was pretty good too. - Not to harp on this too much longer, but if people said it is the most important movie ever made. - That's a high bar. - To film it, like that's way different. - Yeah. - As a viewer, I didn't enjoy it. - Yeah, you can say it's important, but it might not be the best. - I think I should have learned about it. I didn't really like it that much though. Better than Dune, but. - If the bar is Dune, we're good. That's funny.

Okay, there's still more Google stuff though. So here's a... Do we have the memoriam music ready for this one? Oh. We do indeed. I just made Alice Madden shut his laptop and kind of screwed that part up. We will see how... Do the lights still work? Nope. Nope.

Dang it. That's fine. We can still do this. Is David the piece that holds this podcast together? Maybe. I think we're finding that out. Yeah. Well, anyway, killedbygoogle.com noted website that documents all of the projects killed by this massive company full of people that don't talk to each other. They have one to add now. The grave is dug. It's just, it hasn't been lowered in yet. Yes. Oh.

So take this opportunity to say goodbye officially to Google Assistant. Lived a good life, was compared many times to other assistants like Siri, Alexa, and others, but soon found itself

passing the baton to the next generation of Google Assistant. Forcefully passing the baton. It had no choice in the matter. So right before stepping into the grave, it taught everything it knew to this new kid named Gemini and then lowered itself peacefully, never to be heard from again. We still have a little more time. It's still in all of our speakers. You bring that... Okay, that is a very...

That's a question I have. I'm going to start by this. So Google had an announcement on March 14th that Gemini will be taking over Google Assistant and Google Assistant will be replaced in 2025. Great. They said, over the coming months, we're upgrading more users on mobile devices from Google Assistant to Gemini. And later this year, the classic Google Assistant will no longer be accessible on most mobile devices or available for new download on mobile app stores. Additional...

Additionally, we will be upgrading tablets, cars, and devices that connect to your phone, such as headphones and watches, to Gemini. We're also bringing a new experience powered by Gemini to home devices like speakers, displays, and TVs. We look forward to sharing more details with you in the next few months. Until then, Assistant will continue to operate on those devices. So I guess it does say it's going to speakers. - Eventually, yeah.

Yeah, that pretty much just says sayonara assistant. It's funny because still to this day on Android phones, like if you hold down the power button, you get the Google Assistant thing. But if you have a widget on the home screen, it's still Google Assistant. And so I recently was going to go to a restaurant and I opened Gemini and I just said the name of the restaurant so I could navigate to it.

And Gemini just started telling me the history of the restaurant, like just doesn't know what I want to do with that information. Google Assistant still knows like, oh, I say the name of the restaurant, pull up the listing. I'm going to navigate there.

So, you know, when that goes away, I'm still a little bit worried about Gemini. We'll see. Yeah. In general, it seems to have caught up and does mostly all the things that I want it to do from Google. So they did in the press release say they've updated to a lot of the most requested features in it. And they have this actually pretty awesome list that like Gemini now has weather updates. It has event reminders and lists, maps, guides.

can work with Google Drive, asking about a video, play music, flights and hotels, what's on your screen, messaging, alarms and timers, something I think we were all actually pretty, can control your smart home, which is something I was very worried about. You can call on it. What else is here? Messaging apps. The two things that are on this list that are not available on Gemini that is available on your systems is routines.

and finding out what song is playing. I'm very confused at why I can't figure that one out. It seems like multimodal the most obvious. Yeah, that seems like the first thing it should do because it has access to your camera, your microphones. Routines is also a little weird. I think if you're someone who uses routines regularly,

You it's really I mean, it's in the name. It is part of your routine at that point. I my routines kind of fell apart. I kind of want to put those back together. I had some routines every morning. Well, yeah, I guess I should wait for the transition. But I had a routine where every morning I would say good morning to the speaker and it would do a whole bunch of things. It would open the shades. Yeah, I had to say like that to her. I wouldn't respond. It would open the shades. It would start playing the news. Tell me the weather, tell me traffic to work, things like that.

And then slowly, one by one, they started breaking. And then I just stopped doing that routine because it didn't work anymore. So I got to build that one up again. Maybe when Gemini is full of transition. Why do we put up with this? I love all my Google integration stuff. It was so cool when it worked, though. I know. It felt like magic. It's like, this is the smart home of the future. This is so great. And then it stopped. It really is. And then...

You just spend an entire day resetting all of your Google devices to try and get it to work like it used to. And then you realize that half of the things have just been killed off. Ever since moving in with my fiance now, she is very against home assistance and anything like that, home automation. So I have not had to live with it and can confirm that.

Pretty fine. It's cool. Just like press the button. Just press a few extra buttons in the morning. Yeah. Honestly, that's how most people are. It's fine. But yeah, I assume Assistant will go out peacefully and Gemini will pick up the slack. But yeah. I'm sure it will be a smooth transition and Gemini will definitely get none of the things wrong that were really simple for Google Assistant. Yeah.

doubt all right i've got one more google headline for you okay google wallet launches new feature for kids to securely pay and store passes so tap to pay for your children's phone kids to securely pay and store passes i just send your kid to the store with like a like a credit card on their phone for tap to pay it like okay ultimately this makes sense because what if uh

your kids in like a bus pass or like if they're on a field trip and you need to you don't have no one really carries cash around with them it's hard to give your kid 20 bucks to pay for lunch on like a field trip yeah so basically you can add credit cards onto their phones that you get an email every time they use it you can like immediately revoke the credit card off of the phone in case they're spending it too much on but like so much of this just reminds me of like

Whenever there's microtransactions in a game, it's always like, oh, did you use your parents' credit card for these V-Bucks or whatever and they're spending too much? And Google was like, let's do that in real life. Let's give these kids tap to pay so they can just go buy whatever they want with their phone until their parents get too many emails and now they're credit card companies. This is bold of Google to assume that kids have Androids.

It's actually the most interesting part. I didn't even think of that. How many kids are going to do this versus Apple Wallet or whatever? I don't know though. It could be a way to get young people. Young people makes it sound like I'm talking about teenagers. The youngest possible demographic in Android as their first phone. This might be how they disrupt the pipeline. There's a reason Samsung paid MrBeast so much money to do Samsung things because they're like,

We've lost the younger generation. We need to now get the generation that hasn't even bought phones yet. And we want them to want Samsung phones. Yeah, I mean, it doesn't seem like the Galaxy Fortnite skins really worked that well. Or the Awesome ads. The A series. Awesome, awesome, awesome. You remember those? No. I don't know those. You didn't see those commercials? No. Apparently the A in A54 stands for awesome. And they did these commercials where they would just call the phone awesome over and over again. And

I'm not describing it very well and I feel like you guys are going to appreciate how weird this is. It's for some reason it's reminding me of the Budweiser frogs. Why? Now that's memorable. Kids would remember that. This is a commercial. Hold on. No, this rules. Are we going to get copyright struck from this? We can do a test upload first. Okay.

How did this not work? Whoever loses in trivia this year has to set that as their ringtone on their phone for the next month. That's a deal. Wait. That was kind of a banger. Yeah. I'm in on that. I like that. It didn't convert any of the youth. It didn't. Apparently.

Yeah. So that's where we're at. Lots of Google news. Look at this, the Google podcast. We didn't talk about Apple once. A whole Google segment in the middle. Wow. Good for them. Well, our whole final segment is going to be a game. And we're going to play our keywords eBay game, trying to find the most expensive thing sold on eBay in a particular category. It's going to be a good time. So before we get there, one more trivia question.

I'm sorry. The lights did where I broke the lights when Andrew made me mad about Dune and you made me mad about tenant. Just dissing all the movies. Interstellar question. Number two, I wanted to do a question about microtransactions because it does seem like that is what the Fortnite card is for. And when, sorry, the, the, the Google, uh, CS go skins card. Um,

I was looking around for the most absurd microtransactions in the history of games. Found some funny Fortnite skins. Found some expensive Fortnite skins. $40. Uh,

I feel like there's more expensive than that. You have to weirdly buy them on eBay. You have to buy an account. Yeah, or buy this Samsung Galaxy for $1,000. I played Fortnite when that came out, and we got one of the phones, and I put it on my account. That's why in our Fortnite office game, we're playing with the Samsung Galaxy skin, and everyone's like, that's a crazy rare skin. You had to buy the Note 8, I think, or Note 9 to get it. But...

The silliest microtransaction I found was actually baked into a little game called Windows 10. Ever heard of it? No, I'm just kidding. But I did find a funny little microtransaction in Windows 10. And so the question is, what, upon launch, could Windows 10 users pay $1.49 per month for? That's the question? That's the question. That's all we get? What do you get for $1.49 per month?

At launch. I think I found discrepancies as far as what it would cost now because we're on Windows 11. It seems like they raised the price to $1.99. So it's still available? Still available. And it's a Microsoft product, I guess. Yeah, it's a Micro Transactia Soft product. I have a guess. But I feel like it's not. I feel like I would have known about it. Anyways. Windows 10. I'll think about that one. I'll brainstorm even more.

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All right, welcome back. We have rearranged the seats. We've traded places. Adam and Ellis are over here. Andrew is over there. And that's because we're playing the, it doesn't have a name yet, so I'm just going to call it the Keywords Game. The Keywords Game. You have to say it in that cadence every time. The Keywords Game. The Keywords Game. Keywords. Explain how it works. Break it down. Sure. So for those of you who don't remember, which we did this very fast last time, so you might not remember that much, essentially what's, I'm on eBay right now.

We are going to have three rounds. I'm going to give you a tech category and you guys need to convince... You need to tell me what words to type into the eBay search bar.

to find the most expensive product in that category. - And it reminds me, it's the top, whoever has the most expensive top item. - So what's gonna happen is each round has a number of keywords. First round has three words you're gonna give me. Second round has four words you're gonna give me. Third round has five words you're gonna give me. - It's coming back to me. - None of those words can be repeated by anybody.

And then once you tell me to search, like I think last time, did we do phones? Yeah, we did. So you gave me like if you gave me Apple iPhone 16, I'm going to type in Apple iPhone 16. You're going to give me a number between one and 10. I'm going to scroll to that piece, that listing in the sold categories of eBay and whatever that price is. That's the price you get. Whoever gets the most money at the end wins. All right.

Cool. And then you wouldn't be able to use Apple iPhone or 16 anymore. Yeah. Okay. All right. So I have a tech category and I want you to ask some questions to see, to make sure we're all on the same page here. Okay.

I'm going to do, it's an audio category. Oh, no. Let's make it fair for everybody. The device has to be able to play sound. That's it? Play sound. Like it has to have a speaker? It has to be able to play sound. Yes, it has to have a speaker. Wait, make a sound or play sound? Make a sound. Make a sound.

Make a sound sounds like just like mechanically. Yeah. Like I could pick a car. No, no, no, no. It needs to be able to have like a speaker. Okay. Cars have a speaker. I just heard something. I mean, I think we should keep it as like an audio focused. Audio focused. Its purpose must be to play sound then maybe. Yeah. Let's say that. It's a key. Making sound is a key feature in it. I'm trying to think of like, how do we keep this?

I know Ellis is going to ask him. I'm trying to think, does an MP3 player count? It would not. It doesn't. Like a Zune has no speaker. Yeah, exactly. It just has a headphone jack. Andrew's thinking. What do you guys want? Do you want that to count? An MP3 player to count?

Do you want to just start going? Let's make it a little more difficult. It won't count. It has to play sound. It has to play sound with the speaker. Yeah. Something can hook up to it to play the sound, but it physically has to make the noise. Oh, now you're killing me. It physically has to make the noise. That's two different. Okay. Okay. It physically has to make the noise. All right. All right. I got one. I tried to pick a category because Adam and Ellis were in this. Marquez is obviously a phone person, but I think he knows a lot of sounds. I was going to do cameras, but doing that without David here would be super mean. Yeah.

Who wants to go first? This is a test round, right? No. This is a real round? Let's just go into it. Okay. So first round is three keywords. Yes. Three keywords. Okay. I need to find a quicker way to explain this next time. JBL, orange, original. Breaking out original pretty early. Okay. I'm going to go with the fourth item, please. All right.

$22.90. Damn. $22.90. It is the original JBL Flip 4 Charge speaker. Yeah, you played yourself. Yeah, you played... Considering the one above this is a soccer card for $1,000, I don't know what... What? Don't make sound, though. That wouldn't qualify as a soccer card. What were you aiming for? The original orange foam JBL standing speakers. Well, a lot of people are selling...

orange JBL cable the USB cables so you actually got the better one out of all of it I want to remember this brand name let me just you go next original maybe I can help you get the brand name Adam huh and this has to be tech $22.90 it has to I think of it as a speaker essentially is tech in itself so it might not have a speaker but it makes sound

And it's primary purposes to make sound. It's primary purposes to make sound? Yeah. How about this? If both of you guys veto it, we'll send it. Okay. Just send it. I'll veto it if I don't think so. I'm a fair player. Yeah, I'm curious now. Okay. Electric guitar. I don't want to use original right now. You can't. Can't I use this? Oh, because you use original. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't use original. Perfect. Perfect.

One through ten. One. Okay, I have a question to ask you guys. If it...

If in the list, the thing is not something that plays noise, do you want me to just jump to the closest thing that does? That is an actual piece of text? That's fair. Yes. Okay. Number one is a guitar book. Oh, nice. So I will go to the next one, which is a DSP Nano Cortex Digital Amp Pedal. Okay. Effects new perfect circuit, $425. Damn. That's a solid. All right.

So here's the question, Andrew. Do I play it safe and get something that I know costs more than $400? Or do I shoot for the moon and land on the stars? The winner last time hit the moon. Because I'll be real, with everything I have right now, I could just say...

macbook air new 2016 there's different ways of going about it because if you also go ultra specific super expensive if not that many i've sold you're gonna get i know a crap i'm like there's a bunch of vintage synthesizers we could do here but i don't know if damn why did i'm gonna shoot none of this i'm gonna we've got two more rounds you know what you know 400

Let's have some fun. I'm not going to shoot for the moon, but I think I could be 400. The first word is going to be studer. S-T-U-D-E-R. Studer. Oh, wait. No, no, no. Wait, wait, wait, wait. It has to have speakers. It has to make noise. Yeah. Because electric guitar does not have a speaker. It has to... Its primary function needs to be making noise. Great. Studer, first word. S-T-U-D-E-R. Second word, mint. Good word. Yeah. Third word...

Chocolate color. The question is, do we want to go for a mixer or a reel-to-reel? One of those is one word. One of those is three words. Put in console. C-O-N-S-O-L-E. Commuter Mint Console. And I want number two. Wait, I should just be thinking of headphones that I know cost. Number two? Oh, I feel like I f***ed up. 70 bucks? No! What? Between $385 and $630.

Studer console input one night. It's someone's phone number. Wait, can I get a Studer console for 70? $20 delivery.

For $90, you could get a Studer console. I thought this was about to be like five digits. I know. What is going on? But then why would you sell that on eBay? That's what I was thinking. That's true. Oh, yeah, eBay. I got to think. Yeah, this is... Because there are some like standalone speakers that I've seen that I don't think are on eBay. Well, yeah, I was going to... I'm not going to give it up. Now I got to be competitive because I thought I had that one in the bag. So headphones count?

Yeah. Yeah. They make sound. I would argue that's their main. Marques, I can't believe you won with $400 on a vintage audio gear one. Me neither. Me neither. Okay, we got two more rounds. You got to play the eBay. Anyone who knows vintage audio gear is just as disappointed as I am, by the way. Yeah.

Yeah. Or finding that list. Well, I guess it's sold already. And it's not what I was looking for. I was looking for like a Studer mixing desk with the rainbow knobs. What kind of numbers were you hoping for, though? I was looking for like eight grand. Okay.

So now we have four keywords. Four keywords. Do you want me to repeat the ones that can't be used? Actually, no. I don't need it. I think you're good. Yeah. And it's the same category. Same category for all of these. I'm hype. Teenage engineering. Oh, wait. It's all audio? Yeah, because then we lose more words. Let's go. Let's go, baby. Synthesizer. Gotta figure out how to spell that. Got it. That's three.

OP one. It is OP dash one. Yeah. OP dash one. I'll give that to you. Okay. OP dash one. That's like what? That's like, it's not that much. I'm playing it safe here because I'm way behind. And, and well, if you pick the right number, you get the feel. That's what I'm hoping. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I'm going to go with the, the seventh. Let's roll the dice. Well, yeah,

Lucky number seven. $7.50? $7.50? No, $750. Okay, sorry. There are some $1,500 ones in here, though. That's what I was hoping for. All right, man. Wow. $750? Mm-hmm. All right, let's try. Well, I have like $772 because my JBL speaker was $22, all right? Oh, it's cumulative. Yeah. Oh, so... Okay, so I'll shoot for this one. You've got time. Yeah. Let's try... So for my second round, I got four words. So I'm going...

Sennheiser. Mm-hmm.

Is HD 800 S one word? Oh, I would say that's one word. I thought it was one word, but I, the model name. OP1 specifically is OP dash one. So is this? HD 800 S is one unhyphenated model name. Let me, I'm going to, it looks like on Sennheiser's website, it's actually HD space 800 space S. Ooh, that's three. But you could just do Sennheiser. Yeah, no, I'll count it as one. No, no, it's a product name. That's four keywords.

That's four? HD 800 S? No, Sennheiser. Sennheiser HD 800 S. So there you go. That's all four. All right. They're going to be used, but let's go HD 800 S and let's go with...

The second listing. Okay, you dodged a bullet. I did. $999. $999.99. Is it used, it sounds like? It is pre-owned. Before that were replacement ear pad cushions. Whoa, that's always the danger with headphones. Yeah. Okay. That was lucky. That's good. That's good. All right.

I'm a little nervous about this. I feel like I might get an accessory. Oh, no, it's not. Yeah, I was thinking of a microphone. But we're going to go Fender. Okay. First keyword. Second word is Telecaster. T-E-L-E-Caster. That's one word. Third word is American. Didn't see that coming, but okay. Fourth word is Rare. That's good. That's a good word. I wish I had used that. Yeah, Rare is a good one. For those of you...

For you two and Andrew. The Telecaster has been made in three countries, or probably more than three, but the three people talk about are America, Mexico, and I forget where in Asia they make them, like the Philippines or Japan or something like that. And the American ones are the popular ones. What's the number? What's your number? I really don't want a guitar strap. eBay. Think about eBay. What would show up on, what are people listing on eBay? Okay.

Is the first one like a sponsor? No, it's sold. So there's no sponsor. It's only sold listings. Yeah. So there's no sponsor. I want number one. $999.99. Is it a Tele? It's an American Tele for a thousand? Fender American Standard Telecaster 1988 Vintage Rare E3 SS Black Guitar Pre-Owned.

Okay, nice. What was number two? From a seller called Jump Pawn It, so it sounds like it got pawned. That's good. Number two was Just the Neck for $250. Nice. It's lucky. I can do better. Okay, this one we're going. All right, here we go. Damn. Last round. I'm thinking about something that's probably too big of a risk. I don't think it's on your day. I'm going for something crazy risky on this next one. Ready? Five keywords, Adam. Five keywords. Yep. Okay.

I'm going to go with Moog. M-O-O-G. Actually, Mini Moog. Everyone send him lots of emails about that. Do it.

Don't look this down. Is it mug? Am I pronouncing it wrong? It's mug, Rick, the root beer. You nailed it. Okay. Send him so many DMs. Oh, it is one word. Yeah, yeah. One word. It's mog. Mog? I've never heard it pronounced. I use synthesizer already, right? Okay. So let me do... Have we used the word new? I don't believe so. Okay. So new. So that's two words, right? Yes. Third word. Or actually, I'll do the...

new inbox so that's three words so that's four now right yes I don't think it's on eBay for sure on eBay and then military maybe working but if it's new inbox I couldn't have tested it yeah no I'm gonna go with I'm just trying to think of like a random fluff word that someone would put on an eBay SEO thing like condition condition yeah oh mini mug that's a good one what kind of numbers you thinking here

Give me two. I'm going to... Or one. There is...

remington bikini trimmer a new in box mary kay repair cleanser um gore-tex men's size 11 boots i think a jessica rabbit doll a peanut snoopy watch those transformers a mini moog like new in box like that would never turn up anywhere in the world but it's sold at some point it had to have been sold not in the box not new in box too rare it's

It's too rare. There are... Because even when that thing came out, there were... I don't want to give an exact number, but like an exceptionally small number. And you don't think any of them got resold? Well, because I don't really think it was the kind of thing that you could... Like, you could probably go to a handful of music stores around the country and buy one, but for the most part, they were selling them straight to studios and labels. And they were considered, you know, like... Professional. Yeah, like the musical equivalent of like a backhoe, you know? Like, you could get one if you were doing serious work on your own, but for the most part... I did search just...

mini moog yeah and there was one sold march 6th 2005 one in 2005 2025 sorry oh two weeks ago oh oh for how much five thousand dollars oh you no no don't don't give that to him don't give that to him

How does that not count? Because it didn't come up with your keywords. I guess. Keywords are too crazy. Yeah. I think the condition screwed you. Really? I mean, one of these is like a conditioner, I think. What about if you get rid of condition and type in Minimoog new inbox? Oh, yeah. How about this? I will give you the first tech piece that actually showed up. Okay. Which is? A Garmin chronograph. Oh, but that doesn't make sounds.

Do you want the Demon Slayer figure instead? Yes. How much is that? Am I wrong? Are there new in-box Minimoogs? I cannot imagine one of those exists. That one said brand new. But in-box? I wouldn't actually think it's new in-box if I'm buying it from eBay. I'm just putting that out there. It's just what the listing would be. Do you want to give Adam no points? Always.

Leave this up to y'all. What was the last thing you just said give him that the demons figure what if that's like 10 grand How much is the Demon Slayer Andrew? It's 48 bucks. All right now it makes noise it makes nice Okay, I literally don't know what's it there's a lot of these that sorry Adam like make noise and

But I'm not convinced they're on eBay, like the wallpaper TV or the rollable TV. Oh, yeah. We're not getting really clever. Like specific products that I know have speakers associated with them, but that I don't know about. Do red cameras have speakers? Technically, yes.

But no. I don't even know if I can... Primary function sound? Yeah, I'm going to narrow this down. Definitely primary function of sound. Let me get Yamaha Grand Piano. Oh! Wow. Wood. Working. I can't wait until this is like a dollhouse replica. This is...

Pianos are notoriously either ludicrously cheap or ludicrously expensive. Yeah, I could get crushed on this listing, but let's go with the fourth listing here. All right. Damn.

New in box. In box? I don't like that. Yamaha portable grand piano. Ooh. $719. $719? Yes. What's a portable grand piano? It's all that came up.

There's no, I don't think anyone's selling full-blown word grand pianos on eBay. I guess that's more of a Facebook marketplace. I was hoping for one. Yeah, it is. All right. I have a feeling that I'm going to be in the same boat. This is not something they sell on eBay, but I am so tired that I literally can't think of anything else. So we're going to do it. First keyword is three letters, PMC. Second word, mastering. Third word, marketing.

stack fourth word complete fifth word sub i feel like this is either gonna be perfect or like a xlr cable yeah yeah like the more words actually make it harder yeah it does did you hit enter i did i don't like that face it's not a good face i have yet to see something that plays audio what okay so i guess it's not something that people are selling on what were you hoping it would be

company called PMC that makes mastering a set of mastering speakers which cost about 160 grand speaker oh that's yeah that's not gonna be on eBay I think mastering speakers upwards of 10 grand on eBay but once you get that high I don't know find yeah that's so expensive yeah oh it's 125 for the set I wrong dude even like trying to find this is very hard really is it too niche I also just want you guys to know no one used the word speaker

Oh my god. So... Yeah, Ellis, you got a bunch of Pokemon cards. Wait, but those would be expensive. Oh, but they don't make sound. Is there literally a single thing there that makes sound? The closest I can...

Probably. The Beatles Yellow Submarine LP near mint copy. Makes sound. $162. That's still better than my pick. I lost. The sound guy lost. This should have been my time to shine. Vintage audio gear. Here I am. Looks like it's shut. Let me calculate. I also, if anyone in the comments wants to...

tell us some categories to do. That would be awesome. But it's hard to say it to everyone because I don't want you guys looking at ones beforehand. I promise you we're not going to. Adam came in at... First place? $820. Rookie numbers. Marquez knows. Marquez came in at $2,143. And Ellis came in at...

$3,000. $4,000. $1,231. So Marques is the winner of today's keywords game. Still need some polishing on that. Thank you for all sticking around. I think the basis of it is really fun. I think the host is really terrible. I want a rematch. I want a rematch too. I just want to give a shout out to Grand Pianos on eBay. A lot of Steinway ones I could have picked. $85,000. These are local pickup only, understandably, but...

We got this. They're not going to ship it? Yeah, no. Anyway, that was fun. I think the last thing we should do is swap everyone back. I'll just do it here. I know my question. You know your trivia question? So Andrew should get his board? I'll just stay here, yeah. Okay. Wait, yeah, maybe this is too complicated. It would be way easier to just go back. Swap back. We should swap back. Okay, we're going to take a quick break. And when you come back, we will swap back for trivia. Okay, we're back.

Time to finish it off with the trivia answers this week. Let's do it. Backronyms. Backronyms. Question one. The term leaf from Nissan Leaf serves as a backronym. What is that backronym? Did we decide if we were doing one point per or what were we saying? Oh, yes, that's what it was. Whoever gets the closest or the most gets one point. Flip them and read. What do we got? They're bad.

Oh, okay. Oh, we both said fun for F. So my LEAF was like electric and fun. Like electric. Yeah. And fun. And fun. Oh, the A was A. I kind of like that actually. Yeah. That is good, but you got zero points on that one. Zero. Oh, damn. I said long electric abled fun.

Also zero points. What on earth does fleece stand for? Leading environmentally friendly affordable family car. Hold on. I told you one of them was hyphenated. It says way more than four words. No, leading. Leading. Environmentally friendly. Affordable family car.

Car. Car is not included in apparently. Nissan needs to learn what an acronym is. That's tough. That's rough. Nissan gets a negative one point. It's technically Leafk. Okay. Question number two. The CFM International Leap is a high bypass turbofan. I'm just kidding. Just kidding. I just assumed I wasn't paying attention. No. What in Windows 10 could users spend $1.49 per month on?

In the weirdest, not weirdest, just who puts up microtransactions in a computer? This is Windows 10, which came out in 1996. Just kidding. It came out. Windows 10 is the one before this one, I think. Are we on 12 yet? No, we're not on 12. We're on 11. I don't know this one. David might get this one. Did you put the same thing? Oh, essentially. The Assistant, Copilot.

I'm sorry. I put Clippy. No. Damn. Unfortunately. I'd pay $1.50 for Clippy. For Clippy? Yeah. I feel like most people would pay $1.50 to get rid of Clippy. No, the correct answer was to disable ads in Solitaire. To disable? There's ads in Solitaire in Windows 10? Because they hate you. I've played so much Solitaire in Windows and I never saw ads. I must not have played on Windows 10.

It's probably been a while since. I definitely didn't have Windows. I definitely didn't pay $1.49. Well, there you have it, folks. Where is the ad in it? Like after or like before you start playing? You flip over a card and it's just the ace of Caribbean cruises. Like what does it say? That's weird. I can't imagine how they would do that. I just assumed it was a banner ad.

Yeah, there's just ads like when it says game over and there's like the difficulty and stuff and your score, there's just like, this is just like a Zillow ad on the side. Yeah.

Wow. Okay. Well, yeah, we learned something new about windows. Maybe you knew that answer already and you were down in the comments, furiously typing away, or maybe you've already typed away at what we should be calling our eBay keywords game or what you would have typed in eBay to get the best highest numbers, or maybe you're typing something else entirely, whatever it is. We'll meet you in the comment section. Thanks for watching and listening this episode and we'll catch y'all next week. See you there. Peace. And stop messing with me about cars.

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