Hello, hello, dear listeners. This is another episode of Spanky Next, a fetish and BDSM podcast where we talk all things kink and BDSM. I'm one of your hosts, Anna, and I'm in the studio with Gregor, who is in Vietnam right now. Hi, everybody. Yes, I'm eating loads of street food and I'm traveling. It's weird.
We are very far apart. We are. Like, usually we actually are in the same city, but Greg has been on an Eat, Pray, Love thing for a while. So old listeners of the podcast will have followed his trajectory from BDSM to yoga to Eat, Pray, Love in Asia and India.
Actually, it's not so much eat, pray, laugh. It's more like eat, eat, eat. But I'm having a really great time. I mean, I was in India for one month and a half and I did a lot of yoga there. But now it's really just the traveling part of my trip. And I'm in Vietnam a couple of days more. And then I'm actually heading towards South Korea. I'm really, really...
really excited about that because I'm a big K-drama fan and also the skincare let's not forget about the skincare oh of course you need to bring some of that back I'm wondering if they have some do they have like a strong kink scene in South Korea or do you know anything about that I think they do but more than in Japan yeah for
For sure. And you're going there, right? So maybe we should actually record an episode when you're in Japan about the sort of fetish in there, because I know there's some fun stuff to unpack. That sounds so good. Like, let's do that. Let's kind of check back in when I'm in Japan and then I tell you all the kinky stuff that's going on in Japan. Perfect. Okay. Anyway, so new listeners in the podcast. This is a podcast sponsored by Fetish.com. Yeah.
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Great. So that's the housekeeping done. That's the housekeeping. Yeah. Again, if you are... We know we have a lot of new listeners a lot recently because we're smashing it, obviously. Of course. Often we do sit down with someone like an expert in the scene or someone who has a passion for a certain topic. But then we also do these episodes where we just discuss, you know, topics in the BDSM world, basics that new kinky people should know and all sorts of things. So that is...
what we're going to be doing today. We don't have a guest, just us. And we're going to be talking about breeding kink. This one person is coming to my mind that you wanted to talk about, but I'm not sure if we're going to talk about this now or later on in a podcast. I mean, it's the reason why I suggested this now, even though it's been on our content list for a while, just because I find it fascinating because I'm a woman in my 30s. But Elon Musk. Elon Musk. Yeah.
The man of the hour. The man of the hour. I think it's like a sensitive topic. I feel like we're going to be cancelled. Yeah, I think we're going to be triggering. I mean, I'm not supporting it. I'm here to talk about the fact that he, what does he have, like his 30th child? And there's a lot of controversy around sort of like his approach to having children and
I wouldn't know. I don't know if it's a breeding kink, obviously. It's just been in the news a lot. So it came to my mind for our podcast. But there is something about his desire to procreate. He doesn't even have sex with women a lot of the time. He just sends his sperm. Oh, God. We have to sift a bit through our audience. And I'm sure kind of a lot of people will now stop listening. Kind of, I think Elon Musk is such a hideous, small guy.
douchebag of a man like he's like the worst person i think he's the worst person and if um if you're listening to this from the u.s you know how bad he is but like really from outside the u.s i think he's even more ridiculous he's just a ridiculous rich person like disgusting and a nazi um
And a Nazi. Oh my God, we had, yeah, of course, that Hitler salute he did there. Dark times. Dark times. So yeah, I'm not proposing that he is someone who's doing a healthy kick.
It's just in the forefront of my mind because of this, because there's a lot of controversy around it. He sends his sperm? Yes. Yeah. So there was a woman who just had his, I think, 13th child and she basically was paid by him. They, you know, sent his sperm, they did IVF or, you know, she inseminated separately. And then he captured
kept her in like a house and she wasn't allowed to leave. I was reading this like crazy story about it. Allegedly. We should say allegedly. People get kind of... Allegedly don't sue us. You know? People get sued. But anyway, this is not how you should do a breeding game, obviously.
And the end goal is often not to actually have a child. So maybe we should dive in. Elon Musk is our entry level, but yes. Because I think just kind of staying a little bit longer with little Elon Musk, I heard that in his case, it's actually about bringing children, bringing his children into the world. And that there's this whole kind of,
group of right-winged men very much attached also to Silicon Valley who think that we need to repopulate the world not we they need to repopulate the world with like more of their own it's a very you know kind of class thinking and also yeah which is just fucked up I think for him it really is more that I don't actually think it's a kink it's a lot more about bloodline
And it's a super Nazi thing as well. It's a super Nazi. That's what it is. That's what it is. Yeah. It's like that I need to procreate with my bloodline to like, you know, make sure there's more of me out in the world and control sort of like population and things. Even though 13 is not going to do much, to be honest. But it definitely comes from that for sure. I think...
He has this really, really, really cool trans daughter who is now very active against Elon Musk because he has treated her horribly and he has been really kind of not much of a father. And he has been really a bully there. He's a bully. I'm shocked. I'm shocked. He's just a weirdo. But yeah, so actual abrading kink. Let's talk about that. So abrading kink is essentially...
you know, being turned on by the idea of either getting pregnant or by impregnating someone. But it should and does often stay in the realm of fantasy. So it doesn't necessarily always mean that it's a woman and a man. It can also be like something that people who are the same gender can, you know, fantasize about and enact.
I just wanted to tell you, it's very big in the gay scene. Ah, yeah? Tell me. Breeding. Breeding is a lot. Because in the gay scene, breeding basically means having unprotected sex. And it's above all, I would say, a power thing. So it's like the one getting impregnated is the sub in this situation? Yeah. It's nice for us women who actually, you know, do get impregnated.
Yeah, the one, the top who is breeding, he's basically the stallion. He's like the powerful. He's like the, yeah, marking the sub as his own. So how does it, tell me, let's say in the gay scene, like, is it about the idea of like procreating or is it?
Is it like acted out this fantasy in that way as like this guy is like a woman being impregnated or is it more of a just a full on dominance as if he could procreate? Because is it about that, the breathing? I would say not so much. But in a way it's like, you know, when we talk about heterosexual couples, like impregnating somebody so that this woman carries your child.
And you kind of, and that way she's like kind of yours and this child is yours and this kind of idea of possession. I think it comes from there in the gay scene. Like also, you know, impregnated, like breeding somebody to marking them as your property, as marking them as, yeah, your submissive. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I totally get that. So it just proves the point that it's really not tied to gender, even though I think a lot of people would think it would be like, you know, a heterosexual man or woman. Yeah.
So a lot of it is to do with the fact that you actually don't want to get pregnant. So, you know, it's a lot of people that don't want children because, you know, like our human brains love sort of like taboo things. They like novelty. We like things that we shouldn't like.
So a lot of people that don't want children or can't have children play this fantasy out because the thing about getting pregnant is that you don't want it so it's hot. That's a bit of a brainfuck, but okay, let's go with that. Exactly, but would it be a fetish if you actually wanted to get pregnant in a way? I mean, it could be, but then you might end up just getting pregnant. But the idea here is to... Obviously, it comes with risks because a lot of people won't use birth control when they do this to really...
build, you know, build the sound to see real life. So it's a bit like, really like a Russian roulette. Exactly. It's like that element of risk is the turn on. It's not the actual pregnancy itself. Okay. Just a question. The breeding fetish, is it equally kind of are men and women equally into it or is it more like a man thing or because... I don't have the stats. Okay. But I think it's shared by...
All genders. But I have a thing that I would imagine that more men have it.
What do you take? I mean, like from a power, what we said before, from a power dynamic point of view, I kind of forget this, like, yes, I'm having the power to impregnate you, even if it's just in theory. Or yes, I'm submitting to you and to the possibility of getting pregnant from you.
But then I'm just questioning if really so many women who made the decision not to get children then say, yeah, I'm just really into the idea of maybe getting that. It's not the idea. I think for the, this is not everyone, but it has a lot of erotic charge because it's something you've thought a lot about that you don't want. So.
So the risk, it's not that you want to get pregnant. It's like having the risk of it happening makes it dangerous. And, you know, like if you think about how we talk about sex growing up, it's like, you know, you will have sex and you will die. You will get pregnant and die. You know, like in Mean Girls. You know, this whole thing around risk and danger, you know, for a lot of people playing with that is very erotic. Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, kind of we also, there's so many cases of people having affairs, not because there's so much into the affair itself, but more into this like,
thrill of maybe getting caught. Exactly. And like, if you've watched Baby Girl, which we've been discussing very well. Let's do a quick detail. So you watched Baby Girl. Yeah. Did you love it? Yes. I really liked it. You know, not everyone loved it. I would say it's not super hot. Like the guy is so hot. So I'm obsessed. I thought it was really hot. But if you went into him, it was more like...
It's like, even if you Google him, you won't understand until you just see him talk and everything. It's just unbelievable. But the whole thing for her was, you know, is the sex and like she was in this long-term marriage and she'd never had an orgasm. And then she met this younger guy and they were sort of engaging in power play. But the whole thing in that is that she, the thing that she's turned on is that she can lose everything. Like her marriage, her children, her job, everything.
And that was the thing in the end that was the turn on. It wasn't the sex itself. Harry's Dickinson. Are you just looking him up now? Yeah. Yes. Okay, he is very, wow, he's very hot. He's unreal. He's 28. Wow. Oh my God.
No, he's from London. He's six years younger than I am. Wow. Anyway. Okay. Anyway, let's go back to breeding. The link with that film is that, you know, it's the risk that turns her on and it's the risk here that turns people on. Yeah, I think once again, we come to this point that a lot of kink is purely psychological.
It's like really leaving the ordinary, doing things we wouldn't normally do or doing things that we know other people wouldn't dare to do. And we are doing them. But, you know, I think there needs to be like a safety warning here of like, you know, STIs would be a lot higher chance if you are engaging in this because you're having unprotected sex. Unwanted pregnancies, the risk of abortion and complications, you know, it does carry risks.
a lot of risk if I mean how do you do it properly I don't know because like if you pull out that make that would be a lot safer but there's still a risk
So if you can actually get pregnant, is this something you really have to consider that like perhaps it won't stay in the realm of fantasy? And how are you going to prepare for that in that eventuality? Yeah, honestly, I really want to speak a word of caution here because getting pregnant is just a big deal. Kind of let me let me explain that to you.
It's just risky. There's so many consequences to it. And it's not like just getting an STI and taking some antibiotics. It's like a big twist of destiny there. Exactly. And you know, like all for everyone who ever has their kinks, no kink shaming. And if you take precaution, it's probably something you can do. You could probably just play the fantasy out while taking birth control if that doesn't undo the fantasy for you.
But, you know, I would have to say that, like, you know, children coming into the world, if they weren't really wanted, for example, doesn't always result in, like, a good outcome. So, you know, it's a weighty decision, but...
And probably I would say you need to have a plan for every eventuality. You know, like what would happen if this actually does result in this? Am I comfortable with abortion? Am I comfortable with carrying a child if that does in fact happen? You know, these things are huge questions to ask. And if you are someone that doesn't want children, this is probably like a really big consideration to make.
once again the world's so unfair because for men it's so much easier to play around with this kink than it is for women I mean you would still be a father as well but it just doesn't carry the same weight like if you're someone that's on a one night stand let's say you're
you know, you just meet someone and you engage in this kink and then you decide not to have anything to do with them. Like, I mean, there is some legal recourse obviously for the woman, but it's just a bigger decision for the woman, like if they carry a baby to term or they have to have an abortion. Totally.
But maybe let's switch back again to the more light side of things. So, God, where do we go from here? Basically, think it through before you engage in this game. I think that we can end it soon. I don't think there's much else. I think we should go back. Go back to that and say... Because it has gone very dark. I don't know if it's dark. I think we shouldn't just promote things. Like, we need to also not just put it, everything's great, like we always do.
So yeah, if this kink is something that you want to engage in, give it some thought, play it safe. And it can definitely be a huge psychological turn on, especially if you have the right partner to do it with. Absolutely. And there's actually sex toys. I was looking up some sex toys and they're called, they're called like Oversighters or something like that. And they actually...
squirt like a liquid in that's like um semen yeah they're called ovipositors okay really um and they yeah and they resemble dildos and they insert like a gelatin egg into the vagina or anus a gelatin egg yeah because that's exactly like getting pregnant yeah it's nothing like that you don't see the egg
But yeah, there are all sorts. There's a sex toy for every kink. So if it's really something you're into, look it up online. There's definitely lots of stuff. Especially if you like playing in that realm of fantasy as well. Some people like the idea of alien eggs. I heard about alien pregnancies, yeah. Alien pregnancies. So there's always a toy maker for every need. So don't worry, you're not going to go...
deprived that was fun that was controversial also yeah yeah yeah maybe maybe a little controversial but it's bigger than you think so do it safely think about it take take as much risk out as you can and i think go forth if you have a dirty breeding story an interesting story just get in touch with us we'd love to hear it's you know we're always curious and yeah until then keep it kinky keep it kinky
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