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Before you said 4-3-3, I was talking about folding with 4-3-3, not Scholes. Two completely different conversations. OK. Well, that's a lot of the players of the golden generation say we should have played 4-3-3. You know I'm not in that camp around... You know I'm not in that camp around Spens at 4-0. I've never...

I've never been like that but I look back now and I think that was not the best system for that group of players no but my point is I hear other players talking about you should have won when people say that I always say who would have played left wing I didn't say 4-3-3 though it was a misunderstanding thank you misunderstanding I can't believe you carried this argument over from last week a week a full week he won't let it go it's not about having the best players it's about having the best team exactly trying to squeeze everybody in Roy you keep saying that but what does that mean Phil Foden's

played a lot of games for City in the last seven or eight years. That doesn't mean he should play for England. I think Phil Thornton is a brilliant player. He can be part of a good team. He works his ****.

England have a lot of good players. Yeah, but, yeah, Gal, is that the... No, it is a weird one about form, isn't it? You have to be more angry. You've got to do something yourself, Gal. Who would your wingers be for England? You've got to bring something. I think he's a very special talent. We know that. We agree with that. We all agree with that. He's not a winger, is he?

Gordon, yeah. I thought you said Foden. No, Gordon. I hope he can stay fit. Don't be hanging your hat on him yet. I'd love if he could stay fit. I'll just try and get in because everyone says we're moving up on chance. I hope he stays fit and looks more of a miss the more you don't see him play. Saka? Yes. He's a great player. People can see it now that he's been out. Look at him.

I know Roy's doing the highs but now he's out you can see what he's worth is England and Arsenal not against them Roy but like in the main easy levels so pleased for him how many times do you have to say it? they're all good players why don't you tease who the guest is like give us some clues erm

And Bully's special prize. Oh, yeah. Nice. Oh, OK. Do you remember that? That was brilliant, yeah. And Bully's special prize.

Who was the... It was a Jocky Wilson. Jocky Wilson. Who's the... John Lowe, Eric Bristow. Eric Bristow. Eric Bristow. Yeah. Have you watched... I used to love Eric Bristow. I used to love Jocky Wilson. He used to have a pint in his hand. We all did. Have you seen the documentary? We all had pints. Have you seen the documentary with the darts? Yeah, I think I have, yeah. What's it called? Darts. Was it Eddie... Barry Hayne? Yes. Did he do it? Yeah, with him and obviously Eric Bristow, the crafty cottony, but it's brilliant to watch.

Have you seen a snooker one of that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Alex with Alex Higgins. Yeah, yeah. I'm going to watch that one. Yes, Luke. Hello, you OK? You OK, champ? Yeah, thank you. You OK, mate? All good? All good. How are you? You good? Good to see you, big man. You OK? Do you drink apple juice? I do. Do you? Is that your favourite drink? Favourite juice? Is it? I thought you'd just done a drugs test. I hope not, he needs water. How are you doing?

You good? Good. Have you done many of these, like, doing that kind of stuff? Because you know that look on your face, like, when my youngster comes in and she feels like she's in the wrong place, she's got that smile on her face. I've been on League of Their Own, Jonathan Ross. How was that? Really good. League of the One Best. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good one.

Is the competition a lot more now, do you think? I think it's a lot better now, nowadays, I think, for the struggle. You did the nine-darter last week. Van Gogh and Nick didn't look that happy about it, did they? That is Michael Fortier. Did they get a good score when they were off-pikey and I just came in? I'd love to. One, four, three. Trouble 20, trouble 17, trouble 16. Yeah, but he could say that to me, I don't know if I'm... Best fancy dress you've seen at the darts?

We should have came in outfits today. Mario and Luigi. Talk to us about United. What do you want me to say? LAUGHTER There's not a number eight better. As a player, yeah, but as a captain. LAUGHTER Just talk about drinks, about how they used to drink pints when they were playing back in the day, Jocky Wilson and John Lowe and Eric Bristow.

Was it just all blooded during the actual... Was that back in the day? Yeah. Don't know. LAUGHTER It's only 18! This is going to be worse than salt! LAUGHTER

Jamie, don't, Jamie, don't, Jamie. Don't. That was too early for me. Too early for you? Who was your hero then growing up in terms of darts player? Phil Taylor. Phil Taylor. Phil Taylor. Yeah. The power. How many times did he win the World Championship? 16. 16. It's not right, that, is it? You're going to beat that, aren't you? If I can be bothered staying around for that time. Yeah. I'm not going to beat that.

How old was he then? Did you look at that? How old he was when maybe he got his last one? What you'd have to do and win so many by a certain age? He was 52 when he won his 16th. So you've got all that time. You could go for that long if you want. If I want. Ooh, talking to me timings. Would you keep going to that long, though? Do you see yourself going that long? If I don't have to, then. If I want to, then I will. I don't think you'll have to.

You'll get an apple juice deal or something. That means you're going to have to do a lot of blasting at this stage of your career while you're young so then you can have the... Of course, that's the energy for it, yeah. What would it be? Just hunger, I suppose, to keep going? Would that be your biggest challenge? Yeah, the hunger, you think? Probably just the money, to be fair. The money, yeah. I just love the honesty. I love the honesty. Jill loves that one, yeah. What, money? Yeah.

You know, I'm doing gigs, yeah. We all love a bit of money. We all have to work. Yeah, but we're talking about, like... How old are you now? Look, Luke, you're 18 now. You know, Phil Taylor won it when he was 50, what? 52. 52. It's a long time. Yeah. It's 34 years. Yeah, but it says a lot. 16 times.

I think you could. Yeah, but the money must have changed over the last few years to Phil Taylor, surely. You know, if you win a few tournaments when you're a bit younger and you can cash in, maybe he kept going, was it, to chest a few bobbies? Yeah, because the money was better, yeah. Is it something that you think about, Luke, that you want to, like, surpass that kind of record? Do you think, like, yeah, you know what I want to leave? I want to leave being the best, the very best. Yeah, there's a record there to be broken, but it's going to take some doing.

he also won the match play 16 times in Blackpool so he's won two of the big majors 16 times which is it'll take some doing but was he that good or the competition not as good is the competition a lot more now do you think I think it's a lot better now but you still have

Phil Taylor, Eric Bristow. It was still a good field, but nowadays, I think Phil has struggled. You know you're talking about the financial landscape of darts, but for people who aren't massive darts fans, everybody knows you. You know what I mean? You've just exploded and it's almost...

You need people like that, don't you? It's almost like Ronnie O'Sullivan in the snooker. It's good for the game, isn't it? Yes. Padding the sport. Have you noticed that in terms of the tournaments financially, the fact that you're there, you're a big name, you're probably selling the tournaments, I suppose, a lot around the world. Has that made a big difference to yourself or the game financially? Yeah, obviously not.

for myself but before the Premier League line-up even come out everything was sold out everywhere and obviously if you want tickets it's obviously second-hand when people buy them and then they'll have to resell them but

Ticket sales this year have been through the roof. You are responsible for so many young kids now wanting to get into darts. My two nephews speak about darts. We'd never spoke about darts if it wasn't for you because they find you relatable in age. So do you feel, I remember, because we actually both live in Warrington, we've never passed each other in the street, but I know all the darts kind of clubs went mad, didn't they? So do you feel responsible for the growth a little bit?

Yeah, it's what I've done. I've got my own academy up. There's loads of different academies, Warren, up and down the country that have opened up. And yeah, I've played a big part. Wow. No, it's great. It's great. Is it hard for you at the moment? Are you getting a lot of demands put on you for your time and do appearances? Is it balancing that where you just have to say no to people? Yeah, I just balance my own schedule. Obviously, I've had the past two weekends off.

Not attended the Eurotours, but that's just... That's because I need a break. Of course, yeah. What kind of relaxing do you do? Because... What's your mate... Can you see your mates? Can you chill? Are you going to chill? Yeah, just go out with my mates. Go on a drive. Go on a drive. Go on a drive, as teenagers do. Of course, yeah. Yeah, but then when you go anywhere you go, you're recognised now, right? Pretty much. Is that OK for you? Or sometimes you think, well, I could do with a break. Yeah. It's all right. Yeah.

If you take a picture of a kid, you can make the day, you can make the year. You did the nine-darter last week. Van Gerwen didn't look that happy about it, did he? That is Michael for you. Do you get on with any of the players away from, like, the... Do you get on with any of them or travel with them? I travel with Nathan Aspinall, Chris Dobie, we've got the same management team. Right. But with the likes of Van Gerwen, Luke Humphries, we'll talk in the practice room.

we'll have banter try and get in each other's heads a bit just make it fun in the practice room what do you do? I'd love to know a bit about that a bit like the tunnel really I'm going obviously we throw for the ball nearest ball before we go on stage see who throws first and every time I'll go over to him and be like I'm ready for the ball

I'm like, hi, Michael, yeah. And he'll go, how many do you want? Three darts, six darts? Before we throw for the ball, I'll go, I'll have nine, Michael, as we always have nine. I always win the ball every time. I've been thinking, next time I'll say, you know what, Michael, I'll have eight darts. I'll throw three, three, and then two, and I'll just take them out. Do you ever find in that practice room, because I'm just trying to kind of relate to football as well, do you ever have a bad practice and then...

like do well when you get out there because you know sometimes when you do shooting practice like and it's just you're firing them in or it's not going your way don't use them up in the practice yeah sometimes I'll be practicing in the practice room really well and then I'll go on stage I'll be like what am I doing yeah where's the practice room

But then does it go the other way as well? Maybe it hasn't gone too well and then you just hope for it. How would other players see when you first hit the scene, when all of a sudden you're there, a 16-year-old, and what was it like for your first game when you were going out there with all that noise once you walked out there? What was that like? My first game at the World Championships, I was just like, it's my first game, just enjoy it, got nothing to lose, I'm on Sky Sports. I was a 16-year-old kid

And then, obviously, won that game and the rest is just mental. I was nervous. There was a lot of pressure on you, straight away, wasn't there? Was it straight away when you were 16, 17, it was about winning that world title already for such a young kid? It's just because he started to progress so quickly. Yeah, of course, yeah. You did a nine-darter last week, but you'd not played for a week before or something. He's obsessed with this nine-darter! I'm going to go back to it, because you didn't play for a week before, you didn't pick up a dart. Is that normal? No.

Some people practice, but I barely practice. At all? Yeah. I thought you'd have to put hours in a day. Like snooker players, sort of putting six or seven hours each day. Is that not the same for darts or different players? We have the Premier League on a Thursday and then usually on the Friday we'll fly to Germany or Belgium for a European tour and then we'll play Friday, Saturday, Sunday. So...

And then we'll be back Monday, Tuesday for any pro tours. And then we'll be back to the Premier League on Thursday. So you're actually... So your practice is in the... In the playing. Yeah, in the playing, yeah, yeah. Is there anything you do for your practice at home? So is it constantly doing the same thing, like a golf swing? It has to be the same repetition. Is there something you've got where you say, yeah, that's my practice there? I always change before. Is it? Just always change, yeah. I'm trying hard, bro. I'm just trying to... LAUGHTER

I'm trying to get you... When you're up in the fridge, you just... The machine he could use to just go like... You're thinking of that fella. He was the fella who had the gun in the Olympics, was he? Oh, yeah, the one who just stands there and just goes like... This episode of Stick to Football is brought to you by Skybet.

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I don't know what's that but would you be getting put under pressure to go to every tournament because obviously of how big you are and how important you are and would like you get some stick like Ronnie gets some stick done sometimes when he pulls out of snooker tournaments do you get some similar stick for like pulling out or do you just think I've got to look after myself just depends where we go obviously I only pull out of tournaments because just out of that break whereas you could be constantly every weekend every Thursday near enough every Monday Tuesday

But I just had to have a break. Do you still love it? Do you still love the buzz of playing darts? Does it ever feel like it gets a little bit too much? When we have to get the flights to Germany, and 90% of the time we've got to get connecting flights, so before you know it, you're there at 8, 9 o'clock at night.

But I would still enjoy the walk-on, just playing in front of the fans. What about them pressurised moments? I remember watching you and I'm like, how in them moments, you know, where you just have to hit like... A 171 to finish. What are you thinking in your head? Because I think we're obviously all from team sport, so if you mess up, which we've all done, you've still got your teammates. But for you, it's just in that moment, it's just you, that dart. I don't know, I just think of the pressure. Yeah.

for me, obviously, if your opponent needs to have a double to win and you've got, like, a ton plus checkout to take out, but I just think to myself, just let him go and then most of the time you'll hit it and then it'll...

You win the leg, go to the last leg, the side, most of the time you don't hit it, but I think that's probably one of the best, the pressurised moments. You know when the opponent does a 180 and then you hear it, then you come on, are you thinking, right, let me get this first one in so I can follow him straight into the 180? Yeah, the fans, they want, I think they want a nine dart at every leg. If you start the leg off with a 180 and then you don't hit the next treble... Oh, yeah, they booed on you. Yeah, they just start booing, I'm like... Come on, come on.

I only threw me first three. If I throw six perfect darts, then you can boo me. But that's obviously, that's how well... But if they get a good squawk when they're all pikey, and I just give them a little... I'd love to. It's happened before. Players have got... No, it's...

not kicked off but there's been there's been a few kickoffs what's the kind of thing I remember Eric Bristow talking about with Jockey Wilson used to wind Jockey Wilson up by friend of the and taking them out one by one slowly screwing them up or they slow the game down don't they because some players are faster than others obviously yeah yeah some players take their darts out slow is that a thing they're doing it on purpose ooh

Who did you say? Who did you say? Who does that? No. That would have been you. I just keep an eye out. I keep an eye out for who takes them out slowly. Is the most pressure for a darts player when you've got

a shot at a double you've got three darts in your hand and you miss your first two because I always think that's like yeah but they're getting their line in isn't it no it is but sometimes you're just yeah you're getting your eye in but is that the most pressure when you miss your first two and you think if I miss this one then the back or is there a moment that's more pressurised than that obviously the fans they'll get on your back if you miss the first one yeah and if you're miles away they'll be like whoa and then you miss it again and then you're just like

this has got to go and then when it goes it goes but sometimes it doesn't what's your favorite double 10 10 so different players have different obviously favorite doubles is that right yeah yeah and is it just a pattern how you've just ended up finishing more often on 10 or something or you just go for finishing on 10 once you get to a certain number it's weird because my very first boy championships i was just love double 16 and double eight and as the years gone on i just kept throwing double 10 double 20

But, yeah, I won't be able to... Well, saying that I've won the World Championships on double 16, which is very surprising. I don't know when you're watching it, you talk about the doubles always failing, you can hear the car, whoa, if they don't get it. But that thing of working out the boards, and when we're around watching it on Sky...

they almost put the numbers up don't they this is what he needs to do to finish I mean how many different ways that's something you learn growing up almost like the mathematics of it the quick maths is unbelievable yeah that's what I love and then I always like it when you go somewhere else than what they've put and then it changes so you're thinking something else of what the norm is yeah there's whatever you whatever checkout you're on there's so many different ways but I think Sky they'll go with the more modern route as they would say yeah

But for myself, I'd just go anyway. You know, when you say modern routes, and I think about this with snooker, I think when I watched snooker as a kid, it was quite defensive, and now people are going for things. Is there things like that in darts where you can go for things more than taking the safe option, or is it just basically the balls? Do you understand what I mean? Yeah. You'd obviously... You know what route to go down, but obviously...

You're at a bad number, you're at a slack number, you always know in your head straight away. What does that mean, a slack number? Just like if you go into a five or go into a one. So you miss what you want to do? Yeah. Oh, OK. And then you can go down to treble 19, treble 18. Are there any players who struggle with that count? Do you ever get it wrong where you think, I've gone for the wrong double there or wrong treble or something? I think I'd done it two or three weeks ago. Did you? With what? What was the... Check out. I think I was on 4.05.

and I hit 60 so I've left myself 3, 4, 5 if it hit a 180 or 177 171 you can't leave a finish so were you good at maths at school were you not I was not if you ever gave a quick maths if you ever gave a quick maths no

Isn't it a great way to teach kids, Matt? Yeah, yeah, of course. I was awful. But there, you're like, bang, but like, yeah. And when you get a big finish, when you turn around, is it always to your family, Matt? Is it always family that you give, or is that to the crowd? Just to the crowd. The crowd, yeah. If I gave you three random numbers now, would you give me finishes straight away? Oh, God. Can't do.

Is that a bit... 1, 4, 3. Trouble 20, trouble 17, double 16. Yeah, but he could say that to me. I don't know if I'm... That's like the Peter Kay when they give you a change. You're 2, you're 1, you're 3, you're 2. That's amazing. 1, 5, 8. 2 troubles 20, he's the 1, 19. Wow. Wow. I love this. 1, 3, 7.

57, double 20, double 20. 19, double 20, double 20. Look at this. It is fascinating. It's amazing. But they're doing that on the fly. Oh, that's gone in there. Oh, he's left himself. Bull. I really love it. On quick fire, Jill's got some quick fire questions. You only have to give us like... Yeah, give us your quick fire. So, favourite food, cheat meal? A cheat meal? Like what you cheat with. Rub.

Yeah, kebab. Kebab. Cheeky one. Best fancy dress you've seen at the darts? I've been loads. Years ago, there was a Mario Luigi who had every single Premier League sat at the front, remember? Years ago. That's actually a good one. Nice one. We should have came in outfits. Mario Luigi. There you go. Most famous name in your phone book?

I don't really have phone numbers. No. No. Someone over the last year must have said, oh, there's my number. Rooney. Rooney's been in touch, hasn't he now? What about someone that's contacted you on Instagram? David Beckham. David Beckham. Go on, Becks. Get that in there again. That's a good one. Favourite darts chant?

Darter's chant. He does that all the time. When the people in the stands shout at the people sat on tables, boring, boring tables, and then the people on the floor, they'll shout back to the stands, you can't afford a table. That is a good one. Favourite sports person? You don't have to say these guys because they're here.

I'll go Cristiano Ronaldo. Good shout. Yeah, he's a good... Karaoke song? Do you get up and sing? Not really. Do you not? No. OK, we'll leave that one. One thing you can't live without, apart from your darts? Can we have a look at your darts? Are you allowed to touch them? Yeah. Probably my phone. Your phone, OK. There's no one in it. LAUGHTER Xbox or football?

Oh my god, they're so light. Xbox. Xbox, okay. Oh my god. That's a big one. Oh my god. Darts, wow. I expected you to have quite big heavy darts. 23 gram. I remember they used to have a fat head when we used to have a fat bit here. If you have a couple of bad games, you sometimes look at your darts. Would you overthink it? No, you just think, I've had a bad day. Sometimes I'll change. Yeah. Yeah.

Wow. How much are these worth? Not because they're yours, but like... They're £100. How much are they? I don't even know. About £100 a dart. No, you shush away. You won't have to sign them, will you? Luke, are you one of those that keeps the same darts for, like, years, or do you change them, like, every other week, every two weeks? Obviously, when the grip goes...

Obviously, even playing every week, every weekend, I'd probably say four or five months. Four or five months, you're changing. For the World Championships, I went to Minard the month before

And obviously I won the World Championship, so I just said to myself, they're getting in a frame. I've used that set for this year. I love the way the dart goes in mine and Blackpool. You know what I mean? It's a throwback, isn't it? People can have obviously heavier ones. Would you have to throw that differently to a heavier one? Because I remember watching John Lowe way back, the old John. And these ones used to loop in.

These ones seem to just fly in like that. I think Ryan Searle's the heaviest. I think he throws 32. Wow. And those are 23? Yeah. Give them some space, Gal. Jesus Christ, get some space in there. They're cuddling each other. Yeah, give them some space. I'm staring at my drawer. Can you draw? Getting them framed soon. They're just in my drawer. Right, your top three dinner guests. You can have dead or alive.

It wouldn't be much fun, would it? Just saying. Why would anyone say dead or alive? Get that dead bloke, just put him there. This is the slowest quickfire round. It's very interesting. No. OK, that's fine. Biggest character in darts?

Van Gerwen. What's the guy with the hair? Is it right? I'm sure that it's Peter Wright. Is it Peter Wright? No, it's Peter. No, he's got a colour. Personality, like maybe winds the crowd up. Oh, winds the crowd up would be Geraint Price. Best subject at school? You said you weren't very good at maths. What was your best one? Sport. Nice. Biggest phobia? Are you scared of anything? Stick to football. LAUGHTER

Don't tell people you're phony. Are you not scared of anything? Rats, spiders? No. The dark? Oh, the dark. Yeah. Yesterday in my office in Manchester, I left the window open, a pigeon flew into the office. No way! Oh, my gosh, Guy, that would frighten me. Burn inside. Did you get it out? No. Yeah, I had to hold the curtains up.

And then literally let it fly into the curtains to get it out. Was you scared? Sorry, Luke. Was you scared? Yeah, yeah, yeah. A bird inside is scary. Screaming and everything. Honestly, I'd be like that if a bird came inside. A pigeon comes into your bedroom or your house, it's not good, that's it. No. I've never had a pigeon fly into your bedroom or something. No. It managed to, yeah. Well, we're glad to hear you tell the story. Right, what would you do if you weren't a darts player?

Football. Nice one, Luke. Do you support Man United? I do. OK, moving on. Favourite film? Favourite film?

I don't really watch much. LAUGHTER I barely watch TV. Exactly what I was saying. I probably... I'd say Happy Gilmore. OK. There's a new one coming out. Yeah, Happy Gilmore 2. Mate, last one. LAUGHTER What? You love Happy Gilmore 2. LAUGHTER LAUGHTER

Last one, the easiest one. Will Manchester United get back to their glory days? We will. Do you think they will? Yes, Luke. Luke, talk to us about United. What do you want me to say? Talk to us about your childhood and growing up and watching United. What was it that first got you into watching United? Erm...

Just the whole family supported it. And then obviously I did, yeah, pretty much. What position did you play when you were a kid? Striker, left mid. Left footed, right footed? Left footed. Nice. You go to United games now, would you go regularly or just, no? Sometimes. Do you get invites down now and prawn sandwiches you get looked after? Not seen us win yet, though.

You haven't seen them win? You haven't seen us win yet? No. He's only been 20 times. I went to the Liverpool game last year when we drew 2-2. And this year against Brighton when I went on the pitch at half-time. Did you come on the pitch with us before the... Oh no, who was that? I can't remember.

Oh no, that was the golfers, sorry. Yeah, sorry. Yeah, but you had... He's a mistake. He's a mistake. He was your hero. You came out trophy-armed all traffic though, didn't you? Yeah. That must have been special. Ronaldo, he said. Yeah, probably the best moment. But United terms, Rooney. Who's your favourite player now? Who do you look at and think, yeah... You say Bruno. Yeah. I love Bruno. Since he's joined... I love Bruno. Since he's joined, like...

there's not a number 8 better. As a player, yeah, but as a captain. Leave it, let it go. Let's not go there. You know. How do you know, Luke? Luke, can we have a game of darts? We need to have a game of darts, don't we? We need to get up on that board. Where's that board? Let's have a game of darts. This episode of Stick to Football is brought to you by Skybest.

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Right, so we've got the Stick to Football challenge. Stick to Football versus Luke Littler. And what we're going to do, we're going to have 15 darts to your three to get to 5-0-1.

So you're going to go first with your three, then we all go, then you go again. Wow. And fancy yourself. Yeah. Nice one, Luke and Luke. Do you fancy yourselves? I think we could be all right. Do you think? I've got a chance. Girl, I'm sorry, that board looks a long way from me. So, Luke, you're on. Luke first. Who's going to do the scoring, by the way? We need someone to do the scoring. Him, he can do it. He's got a scoring thing. Nice, get it on the app, Kev. Oh, sorry. He's got something in his phone. See? He's got a dark tab. I need to get this dark tab. What's the first two to?

- 501. - 501, was it? - How does that work? - This is how he does his maths, the app. - Don't worry, it'll work. - Right, this should... - Where's Ben? - We'd remember. - Ben, come and do this, Ben. No, he won't. Ben can do it while he punches it in. - There we go. - Yeah, Ben. - Do I sit here with this? - Yeah, punch it in. - Go on, Ben. - Right. - Go on, let's go. - This could be 140. - Ooh! - Ooh! - Ooh!

Did he get it in there? 40. Go on, Gary. Go on, you're up first, girl. Are we trying to get treble 20s? We're trying to get as much as we can. We've got 15. I'm just asking a question. Oh, my God. 10.

Get a score. Jamie saw a gratter. What's that? 35. Not bad. Hold it, Cara. 35. Well done, Jamie. Yes, that's good. Trebles. Is that a treble? Oh.

Oh, no. See, I was just testing for Luke's start. So now, if it comes out, it will come around here. That's a 20 and a 612. We're on 73. We're ahead of him already. Go on, Jill. Who's been? Gal. Is that the name of the game? Jill, look where Jill's coming from. Your technique. It's a weird... Crazy technique. Yeah, it's not bad, though, Jill. Solid. 32. 32's not bad. If we can average 32 each, that's 150. He's got a... Yeah, well, we can't, Gal. Here we go. We can't.

Oh, no one wants. One? No one wants. 21? Yes, Roy. 43? 43. So you've scored... You're on, Luke. You've scored 172. And you've scored, what, 40? Yeah. Right, we're chance. Are you pleased with that? Luke, you're on. I think there's a bit of pressure on here now that you're nearer. Can we just see in practice? I did get two treble 20s.

Brilliant. Is that a long one? Is he got a long one there? You needed that. You needed that. Nice one, Luke. Thanks for that. So good, innit? Go on, Jamie. We need you, Jamie. I'm not getting any rhythm. Oh, four. Oh, God. Oh, 19. That's no good. Go on, Jill. He's doing a Liverpool. No, we're going on. Gary, is it me or you, girl? Ian, try and follow his technique like that.

13. 13. Very consistent. 27. 27. We need a big one there. Stevie Wonder. Come on, Gary. Oh, Gary. That's six. Oh, not good. What did you get there, Gal? Six. Of course the one that missed. 21. 21. That's no good to us. 21. Come on, Joe, we need you. He puts his foot like this.

Doesn't throat like that, though. Oh, no! What have you got, ten, Jill? Just get a number. I did. Go on, it's you, Jesus. Do something, then. He's going to be brilliant. 20. Oh, 20. It's a good one. Why did he do... You scored 122.

We're alright. Solid. I was trying to finish, though, getting a double. We need to get the double quickly, don't we, obviously. What have we got at the minute? 207. Oh, you're on 140? I'm on 361. Oh, 207 left us. Yeah, I see. Go on, let him play.

Has he dropped it in there again? Yeah. You watch it on the telly, it's happening in real life. You know when you get the two and the 20, is that almost like a reference for you? I always feel like when I... Just to drop it in. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, you can see where you're going. Why are you using his... Give him his glass. You don't want that. Don't let him use it. It's already ahead of me. Just try and drop it in. You know when you watch it and see them, they're behind someone and they get two 20s and you're thinking, drop it in the 100. You got 25? What do you mean?

Yeah, that's what I'm trying to do. How do you get it to drift like that? It's more than that. It's just like, not a team game. I know, but... Stevie Wonder. What the fuck? Wow! Seven. Seven! I was going for eight. I was going for eight, my shirt number. It's Stevie. We're on 178. Come on, girl, we need you. You're letting us down. The man in black.

What's that, 20 or 5? Oh, no. It's a double. 50. It's not bad. Finish it. I'll just finish it. Two trebles and a double four. What do we need to finish it, Luke? Oh. One. Not that. I'm just trying to drop it in. Right, what have we got left? 41. One double top. Double top? Yeah. They're so close to each other. 21 double tops.

What's it? What have you got left? 41. 41. So... He's done it! Oh my God, is it double top? He's pushed! Oh my God. Is it double top? What's that mean? Because we're on one now. I was trying to get to one, obviously. Just do the dance with someone, Jesus. What have you got left? Yeah, because you can't finish like that. Can you not get half if you're missing one? Oh, look, you see? 18. Oh, jeez, what's he done? 28. Double 14. Double 14. Yes.

Oh. Don't bust it. Oh! Just get the dance. Why don't you show it when you're trying to dance? Just give me the dance and get out of the way. Show before you throw the dance. OK, just shush. Number 14. I've got 12 more darts. That's an easy couple as well, isn't it? And on our extended episode of The Overlap... Oh. Get a score. 17 left. 17. You can't double that.

He bust it. He bust it. I bust it because it's a good double for someone. That's really thoughtful of me. I was trying to double. Double 14. Easy. It's a good one, Gal. It's the best one. Gal. Oh, God, that is so bad. 4-6.

Bust it, girl. Double six. Double six. We can't. It's your go. Double six. Double six, Carol. Finish it, Kazza. Here we go. Kazza. Six. Kazza. Take your time now. Where the fuck's double six? Where is it? Any chance? Six is over there. Get closer. Look at how hard it... Wow, it's so hard. Oh! Wow.

Oh, no. Lucky. Still double six. Yeah. Go on, Jill. Here we go, Jill. Finish it for us. Finish the challenge. Finish him. He wants to finish it. Big moment, Jill. Roy, I'm going to kill you. Oh, God. Jesus, did you reach? Why are you being like that with Jill? It's always like this. You looked really... Your arm looked wrong. Do you think? One, six, one. One, six, one. Come on, come on. You've got plenty of time.

Oh! Oh! Oh, yes! Yes! Get in there. Missed the balls. This is like being on TV watching you do that. That was like a proper... Where are we at? I'm finishing. Right, let's give him some shit. What is it? Double six. Come on. Double six. Come on. Double six. Come on, easy. Easy double. Come on. Oh, jeez.

Oh, no. See, now he messes it up. I'm setting somebody up. Double three's great. That's the easiest one. You hit the rim more than the board. This is not a good double, is it? Because it's down the bottom. See, Luke knows. Definitely not. Definitely isn't. You probably just signed me up! I knew it was you! I knew it was you!

Well played. It's a good double, isn't it? It's a great double. If you can work it out. The easiest double, thank you. Oh, God. Brilliant, well done. It's now Thursday. Well done, Luke. Well done.

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