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How to cook when you're not into cooking

2025/1/9
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Samin Nosrat:我不认为任何人天生就无法在厨房里变得更好,因为烹饪是一项技能,而技能可以通过练习来提高。即使是像安妮的通心粉奶酪配西兰花这样简单的食物,只要能满足当时的需要,就是好的选择。 我经常会根据自己的喜好来调整食物,比如点墨西哥卷饼时,如果鸡肉看起来有点干,我会让他们加些酸奶油和鳄梨酱来增加湿润感和奶油感;我喜欢黑豆而不是油炸豆,因为油炸豆太稀了,会让墨西哥卷饼太软。这些本能的偏好可以指导你烹饪。 烹饪可以遵循“盐、脂肪、酸、热”的原则,并根据自己的喜好调整。可以通过搜索食谱或关注厨师的网络平台学习新的口味组合。最终,你的味觉会在时间和关注中得到发展。 即使是像我这样的专业厨师,也会犯错。比如去年感恩节,我做烤牛肉时睡着了,把牛肉烤焦了。但即使是烤焦的牛肉,也可以通过一些方法来补救,比如把它切碎做成牛肉沙拉。 Margaret Eby:冷冻蔬菜、预制餐等都是完全有效的喂饱自己的方式。烹饪过程中,如果能找到任何让你享受的部分,就抓住它,以此为动力。不必追求专业厨房的标准,只要能让自己吃饱就行。 食谱比人们想象的更灵活,不必拘泥于精确的食材和分量。很多日常行为都算烹饪,比如准备零食拼盘。微波炉可以完成很多烹饪任务,比如制作汤、粥、土豆和米饭。 掌握一两道菜后,可以尝试变化口味和食材,创造更多菜品。对自己的烹饪结果宽容一些,不必追求完美。犯错是学习过程的一部分,没关系。 Marielle Segarra:烹饪是一项技能,而非天赋,任何人都可以通过练习提高。找到烹饪过程中你享受的部分,并以此为动力。烹饪方式有很多种,不必追求专业厨房的标准,只要能让自己吃饱就行。 扩大对烹饪的定义,很多日常行为都算烹饪,比如准备零食拼盘。组装食物也算烹饪,比如制作拼盘或沙拉。烹饪不必费力,也能令人满意和有创意。 食谱并非一成不变,可以根据自己的情况进行调整。你才是厨房的最终权威,可以根据自己的口味调整食材和调料。烹饪时犯错后,要判断是否可以补救,如果无法补救,那就换个简单的食物。对自己的烹饪结果宽容一些,不必追求完美。

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What are some practical tips for cooking when you're not into cooking?

Cooking doesn't have to be fancy or time-consuming. Use shortcuts like frozen vegetables, ready-made meals, or microwaving. Focus on simple, comforting dishes like Annie's mac and cheese with broccoli or bean salads. Assembly, like making a charcuterie board, also counts as cooking. The key is to find what works for you and embrace it.

Why is it important to expand your idea of cooking?

Expanding your idea of cooking helps you realize that you're already doing more than you think. Cooking isn't just about elaborate recipes or professional techniques. Microwaving, assembling snacks, or adding an egg to ramen are all valid forms of cooking. This mindset reduces pressure and encourages creativity in the kitchen.

How can you build confidence in the kitchen?

Start by finding the fun in cooking—notice what sparks joy, like involving kids or saving money. Experiment with simple recipes and trust your taste buds. Use the 'salt, fat, acid, heat' framework to balance flavors. Mistakes are part of the process, so be generous with yourself and learn from them.

What role does the microwave play in cooking for beginners?

The microwave is a versatile tool for beginners. It can cook soups, oatmeal, baked potatoes, and even eggs. It's efficient, requires minimal cleanup, and is ideal for those without access to a stove. While it won't crisp food, it excels at steaming and reheating, making it a great option for quick, easy meals.

How can you make cooking more enjoyable and less overwhelming?

Focus on what you enjoy, whether it's a specific part of the process or a favorite dish. Start with simple recipes and avoid overly complicated ones. Use shortcuts like canned beans or pre-made ingredients. Remember, cooking doesn't have to be perfect—embrace mistakes and celebrate small victories.

What are some creative ways to use ramen noodles?

Ramen can be a base for satisfying meals. Add an egg, frozen vegetables, or peanut butter and hot sauce for a Thai-inspired twist. The flavor packet can also be used creatively, like mixing it into yogurt for a dip. These additions elevate ramen from a basic meal to something more flavorful and nutritious.

How can you interpret recipes more flexibly?

Recipes are guidelines, not strict rules. Adjust ingredients based on what you have—use fewer onions or substitute spices. Read the entire recipe beforehand to understand timing and equipment needs. For non-baking dishes, feel free to experiment and trust your instincts. Comments on recipe sites often provide helpful substitutions.

What is the 'salt, fat, acid, heat' framework, and how can it improve cooking?

The 'salt, fat, acid, heat' framework helps balance flavors in cooking. Salt enhances taste, fat adds richness, acid provides tanginess, and heat transforms textures. By understanding these elements, you can adjust dishes to your liking—like adding chili oil for heat or sour cream for fat and acid. This framework builds confidence and creativity in the kitchen.

How should you handle cooking mistakes?

Mistakes are part of learning. Determine if the dish can be saved—over-salted food can be balanced with more fat or volume, while overcooked meat can be shredded and turned into a salad. If it's unsalvageable, have a backup plan like bagel bites or avocado toast. Be kind to yourself and view mistakes as opportunities to improve.

What are some easy, nutrient-dense meal ideas for beginners?

Bean salads are a great option—combine canned beans with ingredients like cucumbers, tomatoes, and tzatziki for a Greek-inspired dish, or mix cannellini beans with pesto and parmesan for an Italian twist. These salads are hearty, easy to assemble, and last in the fridge, making them ideal for quick, nutritious meals.

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This chapter explores the common dislike towards cooking and sets the stage for offering practical solutions. It introduces Margaret Eby and Samin Nosrat, who will share their expertise on simplifying the cooking process and building kitchen confidence. The goal is to show that cooking doesn't have to be complicated or time-consuming.
  • Many people dislike cooking despite its necessity.
  • Cooking doesn't have to be fancy or complicated.
  • Even celebrated chefs sometimes opt for simple meals.
  • Practical tips and strategies will be provided to make cooking easier.

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Even if you dislike cooking, you still have to eat every day. In this episode, Margaret Eby, author of You Gotta Eat: Real-Life Strategies for Feeding Yourself When Cooking Feels Impossible, shares practical tips for getting meals on the table. Plus, Samin Nosrat, author of Salt Fat Acid Heat, offers expert advice on how to become more confident in your kitchen.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices)NPR Privacy Policy)