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吉娜·卡拉诺讲述了她从MMA运动员到好莱坞演员,再到因在社交媒体上发表与迪士尼政治立场相悖的言论而被解雇的经历。她详细描述了被解雇的经过,以及随后在Daily Wire拍摄低成本电影《草原上的恐怖》的经历,强调了她坚持原则、拒绝疫苗强制令的立场。她还谈到了被解雇后经历的困境,包括精神上的创伤、经济上的压力以及人际关系的变故。她提到曾考虑起诉迪士尼,并最终在X(推特)的帮助下,由其律师团队代理,准备对迪士尼提起诉讼。她认为迪士尼不仅解雇了她,还通过好莱坞媒体对她进行了诽谤,歪曲了她言论的本意。她对在蒙大拿州的新生活表示满意,并表示她的信仰在这一时期得到了加强。她还谈到了好莱坞的政治化以及媒体的操纵性,以及她对言论自由的坚定信念。最后,她表达了她未来制作和执导电影的计划,并希望通过自己的作品来表达自己的观点。 塔克·卡尔森作为主持人,引导吉娜·卡拉诺讲述了她的故事,并对她的经历表示同情和支持。他帮助吉娜·卡拉诺理清了事件的脉络,并提出了关键问题,例如她为什么没有选择起诉迪士尼,以及她对马斯克提供法律援助的看法。他还表达了他对好莱坞政治化和媒体操纵的担忧,并对吉娜·卡拉诺的勇气和韧性表示赞赏。

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Gina Carano's career path has been unusual, moving from mixed martial arts to Hollywood films and a major role in Disney's The Mandalorian. However, her outspokenness on social media led to her firing from Disney, marking a significant turning point in her career.
  • Carano transitioned from professional fighting to acting.
  • She secured a prominent role in the Disney+ series The Mandalorian.
  • Disney terminated her contract due to controversial social media posts.

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Life is long and weird, and the longer IT is, the weirder IT gets. You may have noticed that, and even by that unchanging standard, chrono has had a pretty remarkable life packed into a relatively short about the time. So in two thousand six, SHE began as a professional mixed martial arts fighter.

A few years he was starting in big hollywood films like fast and furious. Then in twenty nineteen, not that long, go SHE got one of the biggest roles for create. He was on a disney shop called the man to laurin. He couldn't .

see IT. Here he is. Stay back. Trapper, easy.

Just you're gona wish you never left.

All day on.

I saw your planet destroyed. I was on the guest star one. You think you're funny. Do you know how many millions were killed on those bases?

Job your and .

as the galaxy cheaper, destroying your planet was a small Price to pay to rid the galaxy of terrorism.

So back in two thousand and nine, when you worked at disney, the disney corporation, you could expect day long and pretty stable care to huge company, lots of things you could keep doing there at a pretty good salary. And the only cost to be, you have to follow the rules. Disney, at the time was getting increasingly political, and the people who work there were expected to go along with this, don't say anything, and you'll be absolutely fine.

But for some reason, SHE could not follow that rule. And so he went on a twitter and push back on some of the things that disney was pushing. SHE questioned the motors of black lives, matter of is so great, why isn't helping black people? He asked to have the twenty twenty election was IT really fair.

And then SHE suggested that maybe vx Mandates were not a good idea. So I think happened. Well, disney fired her. What happened next to gene chrono? It's even more interesting story than the first part of our life, and we're honor to have joining us unset.

Now you think so much. Thank you.

So good. Great to see you so last we spoke and I don't know because both of our lives we take turn since yeah so I can't remember how long it's been um but you were just kind of emerging from the chaos of getting fired for things that in a Normal country would not caused you to be fired um like refusing to put in a pretty funny way your pronounce in your email and they fired you. So what happened at like what do the twist sit? Your life is taken sense because I think IT tells us a lot.

Well, we went to the daily wire after the cancellation daily .

where national yes. And why do you go there? What was your .

expected um because venture pero had given me the opportunity to you know um kind of tried to uncanned l me. Hey will do a movie with you. Come on out and let's just do a movie and try to get, you know, you uncancelled.

yes. And so we're not to nash feel thinking that we are going na shoot a movie there. We didn't shoot IT there. We did up shooting up in montana. Pray montana.

What a great time that yeah .

oh yeah I love montana yeah and so we we shot this two million dollar western movie during like you know the time where sag after I was starting to um Mandate the vaccines and covers and masks and um you know I just said so the daily why I gave me the know the option and we can either do a union movie or we can do a non union movie.

And what would be the difference?

The difference would be, well, the difference would be we would have to basically um hire more vaccinated people on the union movie just in case they did Mandate, which they Mandating IT, which is obviously everything I was standing against. And so that was an option for me.

but IT was an option for .

the daily water. IT was one of their option. yes. yeah. And so then the second option was, well, for half the money. So in from four million dollar, you know exciting serial killer movie to a two million dollar non union movie where that would have given you know so many more people that we're struggling at the time for not taking the vacs, for not wanting to apply by the copied restrictions and so the daily wire did put that on my you know my shoulders and said, know, this is your decision. This is your movie um and I chose to go up and shoot the two million dollar western, which was called Terry on the purse.

So half the budget, but you felt that IT was important as a matter of principal not to participate .

in a vx Mandate. Yeah, I wasn't going to do that. I mean, you know disney didn't. I mean, I wasn't.

I didn't cave to disney, you know I mean, yeah, can I go to nasha m be like, okay I was so grateful by the way, for the opportunity you know that they offered me um but I just when I got there was just two different options that I I thought I I don't that was what I was showing up to um but they did you know um they were like, okay, then let's let's go up and let's make this western for two million dollars. I made IT definitely a lot more difficult. It's kind of funny online.

And I, M, D, B, they says we shot IT for seventy five million dollars in their cant. They're trying to, like, write up all these reports that I went into theater and I only made eight hundred dollars and i'm like, no IT actually I was just streamed on the daily wire. We made IT for about two million dollars that I know of know and I could have been less that and we IT was never in theater and you've got like all of the hollywood, you know, press I look at and it's even not that I believe it's still on I M D B as as as seventy five million dollars.

Just a kind of like do these awful things to people like for me and a daily water and like the people like you, it's like, let's just put as much false information that least people are straight. But I being a really good film, terror on the purry. I think there could have been adjustments made that made IT Better.

But I love the performances and IT. I love the people that made IT dalai. Sonia is wonderful producer. I loved working with him. And so I had A A really good time.

So what do you do after that.

I disappeared. I think, you know, I knew that, uh, after getting cancelled and fired, I knew that like even during the daily, even during the daily wire, kind of turn on the percent, I was wounded like a broken animal and I yeah i'm not sure if you experiences the same thing after what happened with you in facts. But I I think everybody handles that may be differently like IT to me IT looks like you jump to straight back and and you were like, you know, husson, I have maybe a different energy where it's like, you know, I got wounded, I got stabbed yes.

you know i'm very shallow .

so it's easy to recover. I think you're just, you know like a certain type of brain that you go forward, right? And mine was have not been like that. Look, when i've been wounded, relationships are in life like I I get hurt. I'm sensitive.

So for two years, as i've been you know, in this new kind of desert kind like wondering, like, oh, grand no, I see justice happening and I see people moving forward and i'm not moving forward. Like I thought I was going to and like I said you know said I was going to try to and I felt very just forgotten. And then um so when .

you when you were fired from disney for reasons that no person should ever be fired, resisting a vx Mandates or not putting your totally insane pronet and in an email did did you consider suing them .

then yes yeah I actually confronted my family lawyer and we talked about that and I was like, you know if this is deformation or if this is a discrimination, then I don't know what is. If this isn't wrongful doing of an employee, I don't know what is.

So I know it's my fault for telling a story more completely. For those who don't know IT, it's not simply that they fired you.

right? It's that they defame you. They I mean and and discriminated. And just put me through the struggle session, which I didn't know when you're going through IT. You don't know that know you? Like I was so naive at twenty twenty I ve been living in the political room at all.

I just pay my taxes and, you know, hustle for that next job, you know, that next action job or the next drama job and know that's just what I been trying to do for my entire life besides my family career yeah and so then I was just like when twenty twenty hits like the the shades got opened and I started actually like looking around thinking, wait a second, wait a second. What's happening here like, uh, why are people allowed to ride on the streets and they're not allowed to go to church? And why are big business is staying open and small business is are getting shut down? And, you know, I was just IT bothered me.

It's like people forcing masks on each other. And i'd I know intrinsically knew lockdowns are gna be devastating to people. This is no coming from an a person who has, you know, been on enough work. I know what it's like to not work for years and yeah work for three years and not to work when you take away that consistency. IT does such an emotional and mental spiritual thing.

I knew that you know some people 这样 know how to handle, you know they start drugs, alcohol addiction and that's exactly what we've seen you know we've seen all of addiction in all this problem um you know deaths and i've last two friends to overdoses um you know one a turbo cancer one two I believe i'm a vaccine. What's a called injury injury yeah and then i've lost so i've lost so many people in the last six years or the last four years. That is just like my boying, which is just the home another subject.

But IT IT does make me feel like I was, I stood up for the right thing. I'm not sorry, I did hasn't made things easy, but yeah, I was. So I did try to go and talk to a lawyer.

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You know like I had to get out of L A, because my life was not safe there at least. Where is that? And you know it's pretty expensive to live in ali.

And so as either like moving to keep keep in ali or you know try to move to maybe not feel and see if that daily where thing works out that doesn't really you know pan out, which is not like there's no bad blood there is just it's not where I is not work. Got one of me, I don't think yes. And so that I just kept on going and I ended .

up in montana how we ended up shooting .

Terry on the period though.

And you like this so much, you stayed.

I just being outside and looking at the sky and being able to breathe and not feeling that anxiety of a city or the possible rights coming down the streets and just, you know, there's an interesting thing I feel like in montana. Uh, you know, people mind their business basically, yes, and keep to themselves. I feel like in montana, you have to work in your land.

You have to be have a certain toughness during the winter. And I think that's really cool. So you know, monday is another place where weak people go to live. And I like to be surrounded by by that energy.

by strong people .

yeah and someone I mean my lawyer were talking about at my family layer. He is such a wonderful man. He was like gina. And I think it's important that you get somewhere safe and take care of that first. And so I did and and relocating your life as i'm sure you've been through playing of times in your life as know it's not like easy thing, a changing a job changing of a life perspective, you know and then having to completely up and move your life and figure out where you belong.

Um yeah all of that has been going on the last two years in a lot of positive things to um I look at you know relationships and friendships in future different um no I could have ended up in new york and single at some point and now I really value a partnership and I really value a future with someone. And it's just like my whole maybe it's just called maturity, but I was a really late in maturity. But my little sister, my little sister is lot more more sure than me and she's got three kids and she's slake anyday gina, any day like, well, no, I don't know what the kids far.

but did your spiritual perspective .

change or i've always been a Christian, but I never felt so much like a Christian as I do this last few years and that just keeps growing. And know, I think that something that makes people cry, i've seen that happened.

But does that make people great when you say that?

I think, you know, religion and any type of, you know, it's been used so wrongly, you know, something been used so aggressively and wrongly to persuade people in evil you know ways that am are fake. And um it's it's really turning people off because usually when people go to god or go to a place of god, they're searching because they're hurt and their wounded.

And when you are hurt and wounded, and then you get hurt and wounded by the purse, the people are a place that you feel as fast to protect. Yeah, be the safe place. I think that people just get really angry. I got and I don't think that it's god that maybe their angria. Is that the experience you know so people .

claiming to represent him yes.

I really haven't been a church, an actual church probably in twenty years yeah um but I in the last three years have just grown so much closer and understanding and so IT was actually at that point where I said, you know, I was a god no, these people are getting justice, you know and I I was so I know I was done so wrong. I was so wrong, what happened me and I know that there's so much more wrong that happened to so many other people.

And so I even felt like, you know, don't be a brought about this. You know, like there's, you know, doctors and lawyers and police officers and nurses and yeah, this is like awful things are happening all around to everybody. And so I just I started looking at my justice that was starting over in montana, being able see the big guy and just being so grateful for my surroundings.

Then finally, me IT was really interesting when I finally got that out of my heart and truly gave IT over to gotten was just like, it's yours. If I stay in the desert of work and I never work again in this business, then, okay, then I need to learn a different scale. E, you know, I need to figure out what i'm going to do.

And so I had to really let IT go. genuinely? No, genuinely let IT go. And and a week later, well, yes, that took years. I tried to, I tried to pretend like I was there so many times, but to genuinely let that last inch of, like it's gonna, OK and gonna give IT to you. And a week later I got an email a week later I got an email from x and I said the day um were some lawyers that um we're taking up cases that people had possibly been fired for speaking in their opinion on on x and they'd like to hear my case so they .

approached you over email .

elon musk lawyers just .

found you yeah I don't said .

by the way we'd like .

to pay for your your case .

yeah no no I won't go like guy IT. I was very well as like is this a scm yeah right and I was like some sort of scm. So I like had my lawyers look into them to make sure my family lawyer, i've never paid a dime to and he has just, you know, he's actually my brothers and my sisters, husbands cousin and here he is just like taken on like my problem just with a smile and and I was like, do you think you can you know, well, will then call, by the way, I love you well, i'm he's been such a wonderful person to me he he is just like, these people are a legit, these are actually legit lawyers get back to them and so I said because well well believes in my case.

He just knew my my personal circumstance was very difficult at the time and you know didn't have the money to pay for that yeah um I needed to put that money into restarting life yes. And so um he's to call them back and so or or email them back and I email them back immediately. I was like, ready in Edward trend, who is at the law room, just the incredible man.

He was like, wow. He was like, we've made a lot of people and you got a back to us like is like pretty fast. No and um and then from there on in the last you know I guess it's been that was before Christmas and probably in november.

I think um they've we've just been like i'm sending them everything and i'm telling them my story and we're having long conversations and they are listening to everything that happened. And then you know i'm sending in them emails at transparent between me and disney and publicity and all the other people and i'm saying everything I got and they took that to x and elan and said, we believe in this case, very much so, very much so. And they presented to ex and then exercise, you have to they had to get the permission from them.

So sure x has their lawyers looking through IT because it's a completely different law firm, yes, retained by x yes. So i'm sure x has their own people that are looking at IT as well. Um so the multiple eyes on this and then then they had to take at elan and you know breathe him on IT and then you know they came back and they said we're taking IT on let's do this. We're going to write a complaint and we're going to file I mean.

that's just an amazing story yeah hey, it's stuck across. And thanks for for watching that conversation with gene chrono, who is a very cool person.

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I mean and I responded to that which know I didn't think that anything would ever come of IT but he he twisted that out um and I said, you know in a quote tweet I said I think that I think I qualify or something like that smiling face and um nothing happened for months and I was like, okay well, you know I didn't expect think so.

And then when that happened and I got that details like wonder that there's been a couple of those calls in my life for a couple of those moments in my life that I ve just been like, my gosh, like I got a chance right now. I got a fighting chance to clear my name, let the world know what happened here to, you know, the word. A lot going to come.

A lot, you know, a long ways in three years, a lot of information come out. yes. So I mean, you shouldn't get fired for being ahead of the curve.

I shouldn't have ve gotten fired for, you know, talking about lock downs and mass and encouraging that I was encouraging conversation, you know, I shouldn't ve gotten fired for my so supposedly controversial tweet. They were not controversial. They were just, they are just, they were just having trouble with where I was coming from. I think um I it's be wildering like it's my bring what happened to you?

Any idea why? I mean, even very rich people rarely pay for lawyers for strangers on principle. I mean, if you do, you know why elon mosque is doing this?

You know, you know, i've never even met him. I've never even spoken to him. I think he's retreated me once um and he's doing that.

There's not only for me in this big case, he's doing this for many other people. And um I think there's just I think we're living in a time of such, such an incredible person. That would be fighting for a free speech on the biggest level.

I mean, if we did not have what elon mosques are doing right now, so many of us would be in such deep trouble. Nations would be in trouble. And I respect what he's doing now. I don't know why he's doing IT. I think that know a lot of billion's put their money into more selfish things, and he's choosing to put his money into the defensive free speech and the defensive injustice. And I have to imagine, you know, I have to imagine that I had to do something with name mask his mother because I follow her too and I think how heart breaking IT IT it's been for my family to watch me go through this hardship and I really wonder about the musk family um and at what tough skin theyve must have had but what incredibly classy woman that that woman is and I I love following her because I see this came from somewhere no yeah I just think what an incredible family that has burdened such a such a tough moment in time that I think that he will go down in history as one of the grades as well. You.

tucker and I can anything like that. I just talking about games. That's a pretty generous thing to be doing for people you don't know.

I mean, never even spoken to him. I hope I get to think in one day I can shake his hand. And you know, I don't know like how you think some of like this, you know, like to start.

Thank you, alan, for fighting this fight for so many of us. IT is on. It's just, I don't know anybody like this person and I don't even know this person amazing so what what's .

the suit like and IT goes that saying that we're fervent tly rooting for you and for justice in this case but tell us about the suit well.

my lawyers yeah um they said, you know keep the lawyer, talk to the lawyer, talk right side down, stick myself in any bad situation so I kindly leave that up to them. It's on the complaint. They follow the complaint is a february six and disney now has a certain amount time to respond to that complaint. And so um yeah that's what basically .

the substance is. I understand that you fired unfairly in violation the law and then defame, tell us about the deformation, tells what they did to you in more specific terms.

Well, there is defamation. I'm not sure .

if that's a legal aim. I mean, I I should as well as an unlawful. But they trust you.

They did. They did. What they really did was they put out this off.

So I put up a tweet that I just become of saying that, and I don't even know because I just put IT up in like a story section. I didn't post that. I put IT in like that.

You know, quick, everybody look through like the stories of the tweet because trees used to have the fleet section. And I was basically saying that IT didn't start like, uh, you know, nazi germany didn't start just with people just waking up being nazis and like demonizing, you know, like throwing people juice into the concentration caps. I didn't start there. IT started before that.

I started with propaganda is started with, you know, you know you had to kind of start urging people to make IT OK to um demonize your neighbor and eight people for whatever differences IT was at that time that was jewish people and um you know that's what I started and that's that's what made IT so much easier for you know you're living in a house and then you know the notes come in their next your next door neighbor is getting hold off that you know, maybe years before you guys were all having dinner and having this wonderful yes relationship and then IT gradually happened. I just wasn't something that happened just like that. And that was what the mean meant to me, was that I was trying to tell people now, like, don't demonize each other, understand you are all human beings still and and you know, basically just bad things have happened in the past.

And to learn from the past, yes, and I thought that was something that everyone, democrats, republicans, independence, that everybody could understand. And yet I thought that was a tweet for everybody and the the hollywood press and every major news and media that they came against me. And they said, SHE just SHE compared republicans to his the jewish, she's denigrating, you know, the juice community and like.

so so you came out against the, but they claimed your pronouns.

They called me. They smear me as an antis. I smeed me and I was like, I don't and I still don't get how how did you do that and why did people believe in IT? But you know, like and then what disney did was they put out a statement that said we are no longer working with there is a statement were no longer working with ro. We basically think that she's integrating people of their cultural and religious belief since this is something .

about about about me being important and for .

your entire ti tweet yeah.

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the merchants payments coalition not authorized by any canada or candidates committee W W W 到 merchants s payments coalition duck com。 So you obviously notice if you worked in the business, but I mean, people who write about television and movies are directed to the word by the P. R. Department of the television and movie companies. So there's no independent press that rights about the movies are about television, right?

Even cable news.

You know what been yeah like the big cable, these websites are all controlled by the P R hoyo.

ood. And that's really so I had my own had hired my own publicizing, you know, season two of the mandela arian and they were working with the pulses from the disney people, and then they were working with the U. T. A. Who dropped to me immediately because, and agent .

who's fighting for you.

all of them, I mean, and then the entertainment lawyer, yeah, dropped to me, of course. And that the funny thing is like the entertainment lawyer I think was, uh they would constantly be sending out, hey, we're having this democrat, you know, at my house come on over for you raise some funds for the democrat know a party that that whoever the candidate was that they were, you know and so all of these people just dropped me immediately. And I was like.

people, you have been paying to stand by your side in case there was a big problem, that there was a big problem, they fled and announced you, yes, immediately mediate, all right.

And I was just like, okay. That's so much you know I mean, I knew that like maybe something could happen where disney would might be like hey you know um as professionals, I thought maybe they just about, okay, well, maybe we're going to network with you or maybe something like that could happen by speaking out about the things that I spoke out about.

But I found the things that I spoke out about, we're so much more important than the the career part because I felt like, you know we need to be talking about. We're having a really bad direction o the lockdowns the mask Mandate the vaccines you know I felt like we needed to um I never even said who I was really voting for. I was just I was getting really pushed into this like you're an extremist, you're an all right extremists, you know and so I thought maybe that that could be an option but never in my wildest dreams that I thought that they would have through twitter or through um a publication without even calling me.

This is how I found out I was fired online on twitter like they didn't call me, didn't say we're letting you go or not. We're no longer gona work together. This is why you know IT was just um she's denigrating people off of cultural and religious belief and she's apparent now.

I think for coming .

out against the nazis yeah yeah so so backwards yeah .

and but again, you know that when you get attacked in the hollywood trade press, that's because the company you worked for directed .

those reporters right? And I am learning that more and more so now yes, you know when there's like A A piece uh that somebody writes about me, um I go and I look up the journalists yeah and I go and look what I know what what other articles has a journalist, of course and you can almost just trace IT back in a couple and I trace right back to look as phone and as first know right there you guys know you call up your people and you know it's ugly. It's it's the .

most dishonest thing ever .

yeah .

and a reporter at the hollywood reporter.

whatever yeah and and all involved right? The agencies, managers, the publicis a studios and it's just this big mafioso that does not give the independent artist unless they're willing to comply and fit in one hundred percent into that um ideologies in their narratives and be basically these manufactured robots.

You know um I mean, I feel like there's the one percent of hollywood that can do what they want and say and think what they want and those the very, very talented people um but at the peak of my career I was like, you know I think they thought, let's make an example of this one um she's an action actress you know SHE isn't done you know drama yeah SHE hasn't gotten there um will make an example out of her and um I had the complete opposite effects which was um just overwhelming support um he was pretty funny like this soon as they they are the peak of their stock market ever in february twenty twenty one or not yeah and february twenty twenty one. And right when they fired me is when I started plumbing to what IT is now. And you know they're you're obviously very smart people and they're trying to salad IT. But people saw they saw I was going on. In my case, I was very obvious.

Do your friends were still there?

Yeah know and everybody I worked physically with, I never had a problem with. You know like um you me pager reconnected after um carl weather is passed away. Yes and you know there is all these lies and all these weird stories in that people make up and their heads and you know one thing I can say is you know I adore peja um and he said one thing to me he said you and carl were protectors and and that means so much to me that he remembers me in our time together as me being a protector and it's important like like people don't know what the real story is like.

Why do you think pager is calling me a protector to his fans? I want I you know there's a reason and there's stories that you don't know that happened and I was there and I and I protect people you know like, uh, there is a person multiple times that's just my nature is when you know there is a person who is wearing a mask on set and they were at their end there over time, and they crying and they're upset and they couldn't do IT anymore. They just couldn't.

They were broken. There was a broken person in that mask. And I nobody was saying anything.

And I just simply went up to the director at the time and I said, this person's done, they're done. They need that. They need their um they need the contacts out. They need the the the thing off their head, they need to breathe. They're broken and the direct and I was I look, I and I worked long ger longer hours, then maybe probably any active as my face was showing and I did all stunts. So if you go back and you look at like the work records, you're going to find who was on set the most as like the actors and you're going to find me at the top of that list and I said i'll, you know get my coverage tonight. I know you guys wanted to do IT you know the next day you can get my coverage tonight.

You give this man a break and I will um you know all stay later and you know push my time and i'll show up early and you know sorry about that but i've done that on numerous sets and that you know because I do understand that like what I come from a vitas background and and I want IT and I wanted IT so bad that I feel like I can I can have the energy to push in. I can do IT and IT crashes me when people are broken, are hurting or being bullied. Yes, and which was my whole purpose. Speaking out, you know, in twenty twenty was .

just always always a lot .

of people that know I was usually very introverted get really nervous for interviews, although that's getting Better and get novice for public speaking, I get nervous for performing um but when i'm passionate, when I mean something, that's when I can speak. And that's only reason why I am probably able to speak with you right now because I have a clear heart about what happened. I want the lawyers to look into IT. I want the professionals to see what happened and how luter Christ observed that was. And and I want things to change so that IT doesn't happen to other people.

What's your next chapter?

Well my next chapter is gonna be i'm going to make a movie i'm going to produce and possibly directed. I am do IT I am onna get IT financed, I don't know how yet but i'm onna make some art and it's gonna truly inclusive and um I think that's gonna a gift that's that's where my heart has been. And I thought I was gonna that a couple years go with the deal where I thought that was the path that was gna happen.

But I you I think god's teach me a lesson right now of how to um how to do this, how to learn how to put this together and how to attract the people that you wanted work with. And you know, I I I lost my team when I got cancelled, you know, so I don t have anybody. So the rebuilding of a life in everything has been my focus in last year's.

I've rebuilt that now. And, you know, there's still things that I need to, you know, do I need to rebuild my body? You know, a lot of stress and not working, and, you know depression and all that.

I need to focus on my health. That's very that's the top my list. And i've been saying that, but also to get creative. And I think that's what's gonna happen. I think that's what I wanna is. I want a drink produced movie and I am start being more control of giving, getting my stories out there that I, that I like think .

being control is a good thing .

at this point.

Yes, I hope you'll come back when you do that.

Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you so much. That is a great story, and i'm glad to see you thriving to you can. Thank you.

Thank you.