Joe Kent
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Yesterday, the pentagon a announced that three us troops have been killed and dozens injured after a drone loaded with explosive struck them at a base in Jordan near the syrian border. Now none of that can be confirmed, the details anyway, the location of the attack. And there are some question about whether that's true, but there is no question that american troops were killed yesterday.

And the reaction to that mixed sadness was highly political, in fact, even strategic. Within moments of this news breaking, linsey gram, the republican senator from south CarOlina, called for blood quote, hit iran now hit them hard. He waited.

Nick hai, of course, piled on. Here's what he posted to x quote, as a military spouse, my heart breaks for the families who lost loved ones. This shows the barbaric nature of our enemies in iran.

And IT shows that they would not be attacking our troops if job an weren't so weak in his treatment of iran. We should retaliate with full force, the full force of american strength. It's the only way to prevent further war.

If we do not, these attacks will continue. interesting. All of this came immediately. They were joined by west Clark for a presidential canada command of nato. And bathrooms like john corner, who apparently the senator from texas is said, are all saying the same thing, let's go to war with iran. They all said this in both sites. Here's Nancy pollution and scene and telling you yesterday that anyone who is not for this, who would like, say, a ceasefire between israel, her mos is working for later mir putin .

for them to call for a ceasefire as mr. Putins message. mr.

Putins message, make no mistake, this is directly connected to what he would like to see. Same thing with ukraine. It's about putin's message.

I think some of these, some of these protesters are spontaneous and organic and sincere. So I think we're connected to russia. And I say that having looked at this for a long time now.

you think somebody y's protests are russian plants.

say their plans, I think some finance should be investigated. And I want to asked the ffr to investigate that.

It's hard for most people to believe that a person in his or her eighties could be evil, but SHE is evil and SHE speaking lies. What you heard is totally dishonors. But there's a point to the dishonesty.

And that is a war with huron, which people in washington have been agitating for, for more than twenty years. So are we going to war with thorn? Are we already in or wehr n and if so, what are the consequences? Most americans have no ideas, not even something they're thinking about.

But they should be joking. Is a former Green baize, a combat veteran who lost his wife in one of these wars, is running for congress in washing state in the third congressional district. And he has an interesting and highly informed perspective on this. And we're honor to have enjoy this. Joe can thank you so much for coming on today. So when you see all of this and you know you hate to be cynical, but you really can't be too cynical, uh, when you're dealing with the war party in washington, IT did seem like coordinated response very quickly moments after the announcement of the of the tragic death of these american services. What do you make of the response from both parties in washington to the deaf yesterday?

This whole thing we've seen IT coming, tucker. We have left our troops in these vulnerable locations like on the Jordanian, syrian and iraqi border. Our troops have been attack, we think, at least a one hundred and fifty times since the october seventh incident.

And so we've seen this coming. This was an inevitable conclusion. So by leaving our troops in these locations undefended, essentially we left them there as bait, because so many people in dc want to go to war with iran. They want to go to a war with iran so badly that we will prop up the government of iraq.

While the government of iraq is completely controlled by iran, we spend billions of dollars every single year funding, arming, trading and equipped the iraqi government so they can turn around and support the exact same militias that just killed our troops, bitten said in himself. In his statement, he accused iranian backed militants Operating in iraq in syria of conducting the attack that killed the three americans and wounded nearly thirty more. That is nothing short of saying the the popular mobilization forces, which is the part of the iraqi military that we support.

So if you look at just the full scope of the way that we have arranged ourselves in the middle, who were supporting and where our troops are, there is no other logical conclusion other than the fact that we have left them there as bait to be killed by iranians at the time in place of their shooting, so that we can continue to escalate towards a conflict with iran. And like you said, there was a very coordinated series of talking points that came out almost immediately that we need to go and and strike back against iran. And look, we do need to strike back.

We can't just let this go unanswered. But if we start taking strikes inside of iran itself, that is exactly what the iranian regime wants. They will benefit from that. If we start attacking iran the way that we attacked iraq, the way we attacked afghanistan, then the iranian government, the iranian mullas, the iota, the people will rally around them in support. We should be taking calculated strikes back at iranian proxy groups for self defense, and then we should immediately get our troops out of these foolish locations before we lose more blood and treasure for absolutely nothing in the middle and before we're sucked further into a regional war.

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So if we get to go back to something you said at the beginning, which I think is demonstrated ly true, that american policymakers have left american citizens in these countries in order to be killed, so they can justify killing more american citizens in a broader war against a very well armed country around. If that is true, that's evil, that's a crime.

And by the way, I should say, because you almost never say IT, that your wife was killed in one of those countries as one of those people you rain for congress. You almost never mentioned that perhaps is too painful. I'm started bring IT up now. But I mean, you have lived this. So how is that not a crime?

It's one hundred percent of round to her a look, I lost my wife a month after trump gave the order for our troops to be withdrawn from syria because trump ran on defeating the islami c califano is. And that needed to be done. Unfortunately, I iis was a byproduct of the iraq war, the invasion and all the blenders that we made there.

But trump inherited that problem we had to deal with that we had to take out to. We did that in very short order. Trump gave the order to withdraw. And that's when the dc war machine, which unfortunately is controlled by republicans and democrats and even more powerful, unelected burek rats, turned against trump to leave our troops there, and he was killed.

And a lot of the justification for leaving our troops in syria and in iraq has been to prevent ce so called iranian influence, milan iranian influence, to counter russia, uh, and that is nothing more than us baiting a trap for ourselves to get our troops killed, to encourage and then really to justify a further war against iran, its absolute sense. And we have to ask ourselves, as american citizens, what do we gain from this? If we're going to deploy our troops and we're going to lose our best and our brightest, and we're going to spend trillions of dollars, what do we, the american people, gain?

At the same time, we just lost three americans defending the Jordanian syrian border. Our border is wide up and fit als, killing over one hundred and twenty thousand of our citizens. Ten million legal invaders have come into our country. So where the priorities of our ruling class and I I think it's absolutely evil. I think it's completely and totally treeless, and we need to get these people out of office as soon as possible.

Well, in is also, there is something bigger IT seems we I have no evidence, but just watching there's like a spirit of insanity or delusion is descended on washington, almost like argutis m or something you read about middle ages for the whole village goes, commits cannabis ism. I mean, here you have for just one example, john corny, who's a senator from texas whose state is being invaded by millions of people.

You can get your child into the nick you in texas hospital. You can use the emergency room in texas hospitals because there are four of people breaking our laws from foreign country. So texas is collapsing under the weight of this.

And john corn's entire day is spent worrying about the territories. al. Integrity of foreign countries.

How do you how do you explain that? I can just be payoff s from lucky either. Maybe IT is, I don't know, what do you think?

I mean, I think a lot of IT is this deeply entrenched mentality. And washington, dc, which most certainly has financial interests assign to IT. However, I do think there is a lot of people and a lot of them, like you point out, like mi poo si, are in their eighties.

And y've always thought this way. This with us are against us mentality that says, like, hey, you're either for the next war in the most current war and the current thing or you're with the terrorists you just are cow talent of putin see exact same mentality that got us into the iraq war. You're either with us or you're with the terrorist.

And look, tucker, I would love to come on here and defend new conservatism. As someone who know lost my late wife in these wars, as somebody who lost countless friends, as somebody who fought myself eleven combat development, I spent most my twenty and thirties in iraq. I would love to tell you IT had worked, but IT simply did not.

And that's a very hard thing to admit. I get an argument all the time with fellow veterans about this exact same topic. So I think a lot of this is literally the gambler's false.

There's a lot of people who think if we just keep trying, if we keep attempting to spread freedom through the barrel of a gun and trillions of U. S. Dollars, this time it's going to a work, let's just double down. And this is, well, how really nice casinos are built in loss vegas off of this exact same mentality.

So I think that combined with the financial interest from lucky Martin and every single defense contractor and you know, putting a someone like loyd Austin as a secretary or defense, you still on the board at racing, I think those that factor with that mentality and people not being able to admit that we ve got this wrong and the making adjustments to our policy, I think that gets us in this current situation because it's actually chAllenging to thread the needle. Like where do we go from here? We can't just let the iranians attack and killer our people, but at the same time, we know if we go to warf iran, this is going to be a disaster.

There's no data that says like, hey, maybe if we just go to our warf iran and this time it's going to work out great. We've actually got to assess the past mistakes that we made, make adjustments and then charge a more pragmatic way forward, but at the same time not lose side of what's happening in our own country. I don't go anywhere in my district in washington state without someone telling me a personal story about how the final crisis has affected them.

The White up and southern border is literally killing members of their family. So we need to prioritize. This whole idea that we can be at war with the entire world is absolutely absurd, while at the same time not prioritizing our own nation. We ve got to get our priorities in order.

I i've always wondered how someone like you must feel who has you just said, spent a good part of your life on eleven combat appointments and lost your own wife in these wars when you're denounced as a tool of latter mir putin, or in the last race, iran neocons subverted your message by claiming you were A C. I. Operative when you were arguing against the C. I. Very military involved these countries, I think that was the whole thing was so dishonest, but how does that make you feel? I don't think you need to prove your loyalty to this country already have to be denounced in public as a trader to your country.

You know when that happens, the first somewhere around the first ten to one hundred times IT IT hurts and IT makes you really mad. And then you get in this effort to prove why you're not what they say you are. I'm not not see because i'm not a little putin pot because but then you know what actually or somewhere around one hundred and thirty time in the world, thousands time, you can only laugh at IT because it's so proposals.

The people that are arguing that we should force IT our own territorial integrity for the territorial integrity of, I don't know, ukraine or the joy game, and boring those of the people that will call us traders, especially when the vast majority of them argue for this, have never had any skin in the game. As a matter of fact, I think the vast majority of them don't know anyone personally who went over in five these wars. So there's something liberating and being called that repeatedly over and over again, because then you can truly see things.

But for the way that they are, that this is literally just propaganda to contempt, to intimidate people, to shut them up. And I am glad that you're doing what you're doing and you give us a platform where we can actually speak truth to power and show people what's actually happening in this country and how our foreign policy establishment is absolutely really destroying the united states of america. They're attempting to make a sacrifice our republic for an empire that does nothing for the american people .

and so nicely put, I would recommend you know the famous ison Howard speech at the end of his term around thousand nine hundred and sixty uh or sixty one the military industrial compact which is worth watching. Um so please ask you one last question because he know he called IT sixty years ago um you referred to what a war with iran would do to the united states and I don't know that a lot of people in this country fully understand what iran is as a nation status is not afghanistan. What do you think the immediate and the longer term effects of a war with the run would be on the nine states?

Immediately would be a very bloody I have no doubt that we could probably defeat some of their air defense and going there have another shock and awe campaign. But again, like we saw how the shock and awe campaign in iraq really didn't actually work in the long run. So I have no doubt that we would have some immediate results that people would hear about here in the united states.

But iran, pressure has always been an empire. It's been around longer than any of the other players in the modern middleweight now, and they are not going anywhere. And right now, iran has a lot of internal problem. They have a lot of eternal strife with the I tolla. And that government only been empower since one thousand nine hundred and seventy nine.

But again, if we start conducting strikes and iran, everyone in iran will rally around their leader and they will become even more revolutionary, and then we will have iranian proxies throughout the entire region that will be conducted attacks just like we had in Jordan. And really in the long term jacker the access that has been built, uh, really since putin and invasion russia. We decided since putin and invaded ukraine, and we decided we are going to threw this massive sanctions package at them.

China has come in as a major player, and we are deeply compromised by china. They control a lot of our economy. They control, uh, global manufacturing and they're deeply embedded in in more street.

And they've also made deals with the iranians. They want access to iranian pedro a, not to mention the fact that by killed off the U. S.

Energy independence, now he was going after L, N, G. And the world's biggest L N, G exporters are iran, russia and katar. So this act would become very powerful if we get deeply involved, deeply entangled with iran.

We are we are playing right into china's hands because china would like nothing more than for us to be uh, committing our military industrial base to a war in east n europe, in ukraine and then to be committing our conventional military power, our blood, our treasured back in the middle that will make the pacific, our actual border, extremely vulnerable to chinese aggression. Or china will simply just wash us, bleed out economically as we bleed out on the battlefield on these couple different theatres. It's absolute. And sanity is opening up pandora box. And again, for what gain to the american people?

I I mean, I think that the most reasonable common sense base factual assessment i've seen of this from anyone in the fact that you're not in congress tells you a lot about the forces you're up against. But god speed joke. And thank you for summer up force. I appreciate IT.

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