Steve Bannon Responds to Being Ordered to Prison
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You hear a lot from the people who run washington about the rule of law and its importance. But of course, the law, unevenly applied, is justice, is, by definition, tyranny. So with that in mind, the following back in twenty twelve, twelve years ago, U.

S. Turny general erik holder was held in contempt of congress after refusing gravid justice department documents to telling the obama administration handling of the fast infuriated scandal. You may remember all of this, so that happened.

Holder cited executive privileges many have before to justify with holding these communications, protecting them because they were executive branch communications. For that, he was held in criminal contempt, but he was meaningless. Nothing ever happened to eric holder.

In fact, he became even more popular in washington. His cocktail schedule was not interrupted even for a day. The U. S. Returning in dc cited the country's long standing practice of not enforcing contempt charges to let holder off Scott free because, again, he invoked executive privilege. And that's a constitutionally markey area.

No one has ever been prosecuted for IT, of course, the justice department, which holder LED refused to prosecute him and then barack obama invoked executive, proves to protect him as well. So that's what to happen. And so fast forward eleven years, and Steve ban tried roughly the same thing.

Ban, and of course, was president trumps form a chief political strategist. And he was ordered after he tried IT to report to prison by a federal judge. In fact, he's going at the beginning of next month, he was convicted on two counts of contempt.

why? Because he did. Rare, holder did and defied the congressional apa from a committee.

In this case, the january is sixth committee, and he did what holder did. He invoked executive privilege. But IT didn't work because he is not a holder. He is a republican affiliated AA with Donald trump. So we wanted to talk to see baLance before he goes to prison in just a few days from now, and we're honor to have him join us still. Thanks so much for coming on.

Talk her. Thanks for help me on pretty good, pretty good, pretty good summary.

Well, and I won't even I think that's all very well known. And I just wanted to make certain that people understood precisely what's going on, which is you are being prosecuted. You were prosecuted now you're being prosecuted for your politics but first to personal question, I just read this morning um you saying you're fine with IT.

You're not afraid for most people going to prison is the scarious possible thing that could happen. That's what's the punishment. Um how do you feel about IT and why are you come?

I spent in my twenty years, I spent, but almost four years on a navy destroyer in the north abban c person, gulf western specific salchen see. So in my twenty serve my country on a navy destroyer in in my seventies. I'll serve my country in a federal prison that doesn't make everything won't change my life one way.

I don't have a big social john. I am dedicated to this work and save in my country. And if if I have to be a political prisoner or be a political person, the one just a couple things of what you said, you open. Remember this, this is a mister miner.

When we were in the federal courthouse, the guy that ran the federal course said, and this is an dc, he said, and I think he'd been there thirty, forty years he told one of my guys, he had never remembered a mister minor ever being prosecuted. He says, there's so backed up with felonies and that's why I half to fell. Three course of felonies get settled out of court.

They just, there is no time he said he's never seen a mister miner ever gone to trial, particularly a immediately they member this a criminal charge not civil you could charge to my civil and up like a Peter of oro um my colleague and brother he's down in a federal prison in in miami I and off they've ever had a mister me folk if someone there and Peters the same way it's a mister or so they did this member present trump and vote executive's send my layer letter on a vice council? My lawyer told me flat out execute private has been exerted so just you just stand down and he would handle that. And we had three things that we argued in in the court.

Three things are upon the appeal, still back at the dc circuit, maybe on bank, maybe to the supreme court, which my lawyers have figured out here the next couple of days, but is not just exertion, executive privilege in the lockwood of, depending on my council, because my council was absolutely admitted that had been exerted, and and I couldn't respond even if I wanted to. It's also the structure of the committee. The difference in holder is that, and you see now in washington, this kind of firestorm over the last couple of days is the very structure of policies committee, because in in water gate and around contract, you had these committee set up and he had a ranking member in her minority council.

And and that causes the tension and drama in these committees. The a minority council gets all the testimony. You get all the evidence, and you can do cross examination.

That's what in the reason talker, I think even with the abc TV producer came in the january six thing kind of flopped because casey hutcheson couldn't be you Nancy policy, when jim banks, the great ian banks in James Jordan, where the two they are socially on there and as plc told, told mcArthur and Kevin, for whatever reason, just agreed that. And that's why they never had a committee. You just had you had crying kissinger, and you had a training who have both been outed from congress, where the republicans, everybody else, there was no ranking members.

Soon he saw jim banks, his name, who will soon be in the us. Senate from inDiana, and jim Jordan said shery SHE has told him no and forever the strategic reason they made, they went along with us. So the other chAllenge i've got is the very structure, the committee, which the trial judge kind of struggle with. So I believe that has to go the supreme court. Also, i'm prepared to, because I pay all my legal bills, I never asked where to pay you step a legal fun.

I pay all my bills, but i'm prepared and i've told my team, regardless what IT cost, i'm prepared to go the supreme court on the executive privilege, on lockable lo and on the structure of the committee, which I think maybe of all the issues, because defense of council is a technical thing for the lawyers that needs to be solved in this circuit. The two most important, our executive privilege, but the most important of me still is the structure. This committee was a legitimate 的 tee。 And you see what the videos you get the last couple days of Nancy Polly saying, you know, is a response to the national guard.

This is why we need to complete and third investigation by the house into the january six committee. What went on was IT a feed direction was IT not a feed direction was the details. And what did the january six committee? No bad, because know if you follow there and beat in revolve news every day, another over every couple of days, you get information that was suppressed.

A from the committee is john salmon and these investigative reporters keep breaking. So I think it'll be a lot more this. But july first, hey, I serve my country in a navy ship.

I'll serve my country is a polito prisoner in a federal prison for a mister meter. But doesn't I don't bat one. I whatever whatever takes to win this revolution we got to do.

But you deserve your country in the U. S. nav. You're now being betrayed and persecuted by your country. There's no, no fair person, I don't think could conclude anything.

But not our country tucked no, our country, our our country, the guys that listening to and support you, we're being we're being suppressed by we're being oppressed by an illegitimate regime yeah that you serve power here and that's what we have to break. I don't need to tell you they're on you every day. As you know, they're on everybody that stands up.

That's what that's what we've tried to do. This illegal erin regime is trying to persecute not just president trump's going to send him to prison on july eleven, they may refer that, but they're going give her prison sense as they've given. Really, Juliana, either bankrupcy or deep platforming, are taking your law license away or are putting people in prison.

That's what the done, and we have to stand up to. That's why I would never give them. I would never give him.

You seem a cable on TV waiting himself every night about all when these people get back in power. They are going to come after you. Damn right.

We're going to come after you within the rule of law. Because that's how will be quiet, a constitution or public to our children and grandchildren. But no, I don't bet at night it's impossible. They will never break me ever. And I, quite Frankly, I will be just as proud to serve my nation as a blow prisoner in a federal prison for a mister minor financing policy as I was deserve my nation on that destroyer.

Has IT. I mean, the timing this so four months starting july first, I mean, they're they are taking on a rotation for the election. I mean, that's clearly part of the calculation here.

Now they did IT in twenty twenty. Also remember in twenty twenty, right at the very southern tion in your drop is bogus. We build the wall, which only never take a penny, actually put money in.

I had, I had a contract of management contract, a consulting contract. Totally bogus. They did that and they did that. They did that because the rumor was out there, which was I had some truth to at some of the big donors want to me to step into the campaign and take you back over like I did in August of sixteen.

There was A A lot of concern about was the campaign not that they couldn't get to vote where they could? Could they actually close IT? I was in discussion, has been in discussion since may with people Better step in back in and taking the campaign.

So they did this in twenty, twenty, and now they don't. absolutely. The timing.

This is to take me out to your life first. And I come back a couple of days. They want a science of war room in their petrified.

Not that I would come back to the campaign, think the campaigns doing a really good job, but they want to take out another voice, like, they want to take you out. They want to looked liquidating. Alex Jones is complete media Operation.

They are, after you not stop. They want to cut down the war room. Look, these these people play hardball.

And I hope republicans understand that the reason we get in this situation was this kind of establishment republicans that that were control opposition. The only thing these people understand, a smash mouth. Now you have to play within the rules.

You have to play within the constitution, in the rule of law. But we can do a lot within that. And that's why I think mcb these guys brand in mcClair er that's so absolutely word because they understand we know the game, present truth, knows the game much Better today. And there's going to be real accountability come twenty november .

of next year um speaking in republicans in the false opposition that they put up um I have a list of republicans who voted to hold you in contempt of vote that LED your prison sentence uh and its people some people you'd expect fed up in is training we begins in er Nancy mates also as he called you apologize .

she's actually been on the show a couple of times. Look, I I to win, I can put a lot behind me. I think that one of the reason she's had a little bit of problem getting a attraction SHE needs down her primary of which I hope he wins the primary.

I think SHE made a mistake. I think he know he made a mistake. She's come a long way.

Since then, SHE really backed us. SHE was part of this, the whole, you know, part to overthrow demography, speakership. I think she's been pretty tough, but I don't hold bridges against which way people vote.

I understand what's going on here, as you do. I mean, this is an illegitimate gime of neo maxes. From the justice department to the FBI, the wall street crowd. You can see this everywhere in our society, the attacks in the family, and they play for keeps.

And i'm so glad that when the Alice Jones is and the talker crosses, and particularly since you've opportunity fox ourselves and so many others now understand that this is a war to the knife, right? We have to win this. We don't win this.

This country's gone to devolve into some kind of newmark's totalitarian regime of which is pretty far down the world right now. That's why I don't fear going to prison, right? I know it's gonna my voice off the world is still going to go on and I keep saying its next man up.

You can't lean on trump. You can't lean on tucker. You can't lean on band and you can't lean on alex Jones.

This is a populist revolt. You have to step up, endure yourself. You have to dive in more. You have to do more media sharing, you know become a four multiple. Er so I am pretty a happy with the showers right now what the audience is going to do with the teams that we've got. But it's clearly the plane in math mouths that I just think we have to wake up. And in the gym, banks is of the world and the gym Jordans and and the speaker Johnson, you have to understand we're in a political war, in an information war, and you've got to start fighting .

like you're in a war. I mean, I have to say, and i'm not a rabbit to make you feel bad, but it's if you take three to back the fact that they're putting people in prison, men in their seventies univarse, but others, lots of others, people in prison for defying them politically. I mean, that is not the country that we grew up. And do you ever sort of wonder where you are?

I think, like you, i've seen this coming for a couple years. You know, I was able to work with Andrew bright part when and when you started daily collar and started right part. I think at the time we had an angle when obama said fundamentally transformed the united states.

I think we had engine with holder in these guys. But IT took really president trump as as kind of someone to people that could rally around to understand that the managed decline of our country was more than just happy, more than just a campaign slogan is real. And I think that I keep saying trumps win.

And sixteen was providential because I was there. We had a, we had a man, we had a mission, we had a plane, we had a message, we didn't have much, we need a lot of money and and not a lot of organization um and we kind of that was divine experience we want. But I tell me what's also divine providence.

It's providential that we lost in twenty that was stolen in. The reason was, you know, up until then, you can't thought democrats and they had different ideas and taxes. They had different ideas, maybe uncertain social programs or or education programs, but it's not true.

They are literally a neo marx's revolutionary group that wants to fundamental his country. And now they have the power of of of big tech, the lords of easy money, hollywood, the universities, both high culture and low culture in the political apparatus. They're, you're going to destroy the american republic that we grew up with.

And this is a war, that there is a war. And no, i'm going to go for a while as a, as a prisoner war. I mean, i'm a political prisoner.

You say you shock about IT in one regard, I would be shocked about IT. But this is the least they want to put trump in in prison for hundreds of years. They wanted destroy. When the greatest americans in our country, rutty, Juliana and me, bankrupting, destroying, they're playing smash mouth. The republicans don't even conceive with that.

That's why in this trump movement, when we start talking about judgment days five november and accountability day is after present, trump takes his hand off the king James bible at high noon on the twenty is the january twenty twenty five mccains on TV every other night, mccoy on TV all the time. This is so terrible. We're having conversations.

We may have to leave the country. Well, hey, leave the country. But we have extradition treaties with everybody in the long ARM of american juice is gone to get you in fetch backyard.

Because one thing I can tell you, with president trumps second term, there is going to be accountability, not retribution, not revenge. He's got the border to shut down msy portions. He'd got stopped these and those wars, particularly in the ukraine.

He's got to stop this, the madness of the spending and how we finance this government, which is at a control and caused inflation. But one of the most important things he has to do is deconstruct the administrative state. And part of that is literally crushing the new predatory an guard, which is the deep stay present triple do this.

And I think we will have A A group of people around him that are gonna monkey focused on to do IT. But until that time, this is a war and a lot more people going to go to prison. A lot more people going to prison than Steve benner.

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Well, you can't. You can't run. You can't run your business from a federal prison.

But i'll staying to touch with the people all day. Have a great team. And i've told. In yes, in certain other guys hope fully, hopefully will play by the rules a little bit Better.

But no, I tell guys, I tell the men and women on my team, it's time to step up. It's like IT. Normally we just commemorate the idiot anniversary.

The people on the first wave, half of them didn't get up to the, up to the ball work on the beach. They were gone. IT was next man up.

The only reason they get off that beach is next man up. American history is built upon next man up, you can leave you. You're gonna lose your best people.

You lose your good people. You will lose the people and leadership. You'll lose the people.

The front of the fAilings. You gotto pick up the army. You got ta pick up the spirit and do IT yourself. This is going to be a very good exercise for us, got to tell people. And I said all the time, you can't lean as too much pressure on trump p.

You can't lean on trump h all the time, you can't lean on tucker calls and you can't lean on alleged Jones. Steve benin named twenty, fifty, thirty, forty Jones of key. You can't lean on them.

You have to step up and dure yourself. That's what a publish of votes about. And what they think is that that's an old school model.

If I can take out thump, if I can take out talker, if I can take out rudy, if I can take out alexandros, I take us. t. Benin, and caused the rest of to all be worried about being debated and the platform and spend their world there they win.

This is gonna a chAllenge to show if we win, present trump, Donald trump on the eleven, the gender we think it's over the top. The Steve benner ford mister miners is going to a federal prison. Donald trump, a guy that gave us four years a piece and prosperity, at least three years of piece and prosper before you get hit with a chinese bioweapon. Ah he's going to be sentenced to years at rikers island. Now they're gona differing or give home arrest or making a applicant to judge so that he can go you he can go campaign to a limited degree.

But they are in a court in new york's state or gona sentence a man who is president I states and gave us three the best years of any president in our in this republic history sends him to prison on a case that's actually ten times bigger joke than minus uh, so don't think they if they come for trump and get a sense trump to prison with the bay. And he has in the context, he has in the fact they's been commander and chief and president and pretty damn successful. They can come for anybody. You don't think they can put anybody in prison. And right now, if you see what's happened in new york state, in california and some of these states and cities, the great cities like chicago, with what they have running those cities, the folks I got run in IT, you want to be prepared, is going to a lot more people in the Donald trump and steep band to go to prison, unless we stop IT. Now that's why when you have people like john, you in any marthy particularly, join you who's no fan of president tromp, and certainly not maggi, when a guy like that, that is smart as that, and reason when he comes at a national review, which is also not, as you know, a big trump supporting, big mac supporting magazine, when he comes out and literally lays out, says, we have a constitutional duty, constitutional duty, attorney y generals in das in the house to get these democrats face and started and dying people, he says that we don't do that the baLance of the constitution will be total gone. We're going to lose the country so when a guy like john, you and then back up by animal crathie, when those guys to send that over the national view, you realize we've hit a trip wire.

So is there a point at which, in the case of president trump, where the case is so absurd and the penalties are just A, A, A mockery of justice, that you just say, i'm not participating and come and get me i'm not playing your game. I'm going to run for president as is my right as an american and be heard as is my right like i'm not playing along.

I think we may be there on the afternoon, july eleven. I mean, I think people can take a very deep consideration this. I think it's a good cheer and I think people have to look.

And it's particularly I think it's very important. That's why you in mccarthy and others like that earth and mat walsh, even Richard ry, other people have never been big. Magas supporters are now realized in this.

This republic were right there, right now, and I think it's gone. Be a good check. And I think people can be very reflective. But of the afternoon of july, the present, trump gets a multi year prison sense and is put on hold um maybe for his appeal but put on hold for for some time to give him home release or somehow they put restrictions on his ability to actually go out campaign people GUI started asking for very good questions because the thing in new yo ork new york was the show trial like moscow in one thousand nine thirties. And if we're going allow that to continue, people, people have to ask very deep questions. I think we're heading towards a constitutional crisis this country is never had before ah and and that's when the reasons I think i'm going to prison, they want to send me to prison in ly to make sure that I think some of the strongest are more more aggressive of president trumps. President trumps advocates are are taken off the are taken off the playing field.

I think that's right at some point that you just have to say, no, no. Last question to you. You got four months.

You're facing what do you plan to do with that time? What you going to read? What are you going to .

spend your time doing? Well, I do. I have a predict regiment, as is. So i'll continue on. I do a lot of spiritual exercises following the nation's loyal, you know, different spiritual exercises to come out the cathode church. Although I may, I may.

I would actually say, if you look at lord savior jesus Price, i'll call myself a precis tion. I wouldn't want to insult his name by saying i'm a Christian, given the very tough in high, high standards. So no, that that issue.

And obviously I read a lot, I study a lot to try study every different type of thing that comes up, that I am very curious so that when when will be a problem? I also communicate with my team and other people on the outside within prison regulations, whatever those regulations are. So i'll be fully occupied at work.

I proud of work eighteen hours a day. I have nothing else of my life going on. Accept this so IT won't stop and and what just continue impressed on i've told my teen the, you know, they can be one drop in quality.

They can be one drop in audience participation impact. And so it's on my team to do IT now, hopefully in a communication with those guys. But i'm very confident we build a team up here that will continue on like a telemac next man up.

You you don't know if talker cross is going to be there tomorrow, you're going to running. Yes, you don't know if present trumps gonna that, but they they could roman him to records that afternoon. I think of being incredibly foolish and an obviously stretch even for those crazy.

But trump could be reminded, he could be reminded to prison that afternoon. Effect, if you look at tish, James and Rachel, a matter on those people, we've got the whole all investigate when we take power as their participation in this. If you look at wise man, those guys, they want him remanded on the afternoon, july eleven.

They don't want him to go the republican convention, stand on that stage before the world, take the nomination that was so hard fought for and really stand up and and get IT on with with biting one on one, which I think right now the single will be a blow out. So no, there's they're planning smash a look at rudy, rudy, jill liani when the greatest mayors you've ever had, when the greatest americans and just an amazing guy, the bankrupt they want to jail him. I think he's get sentences out their potential of thirty or forty fifty years tina Peters, you know a gold star mother from from colorado.

I think she's looking at prison time on multiple families of the twenty or thirty years. Seventy five year old grandmother they just put in prison last week over two years in ill health at seventy five years old, gave two years in a federal prison. So these people won't stop at anything that whether you're a religious right now, you're religious individual.

Uh, where do you go to a traditional Cathy mass, uh, church? And you know that in richmond, FBI, at the richmond office, that was the church. My parents started that. They started looking at, my parents were very devout. Cathy s as soon as they were able to start a let mass back in the seventies, in the the, in the dioceses, they took a couple of the priest death of the monastery, and they formed a light master.

That was, that was the one the churches that that was the one that gave the guys in russian field off because it's a very traditional, very a blue color, tons of kids going to the military go the academies. But really listen the machine core in the navy, in the army and that's what the fbs going after the saying that they're building, uh political political stream st that this is where extremism is coming from. Your government has turned against you, not our country, the government a this illegitimate regime has taken over the apparatus at the night states government and is enforcing dictor power and we have to stand up for just like the revolutionary generation stood up to the Victory of power of the crown uh in the in people like .

the british is in the accompany they hate most as Christian sure what you're a brave and magnanimous man um and so god bless you. Good luck.

Talk her. thanks. Look forward to the city near the site.

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