Tim Dillon: Disney, Boomers, and the Creepy Corporations that Pretend to Love You
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feelings with disney yeah, I do terrible.

You think .

disney is terrible. I think it's become terrible.

I kind of agree with that, but I can't put .

particularly wide what is lazing disney lazy. It's the old. It's the you know it's like, you know, when people take the kids in vacation there, it's like, I understand that, but there's other places to go that are real, that of actual history.

You can teach your kids about the country. You can teach him about anything. You can teach them about things that have actually happened.

I don't think disney world is a terrible place to go, but you shouldn't be doing that every year. There's people to go. Every year.

There's people to go without children .

as people with people are sick. I mean, no, this is whole a group of disney adults, people that really enjoy disney world. They meet their wives, that is the world.

They meet her husband as that is the world. And you somehow then not procreate, and they love IT, and they say they remain children forever, in which I don't think is the goal of life. And yeah, I just think it's you it's upsetting when I see IT.

So it's like it's like an emotional retard.

Yes, you're looking at people that are stunted. They're unable, for whatever reason to access. There's a lot of art in america. There's a lot of a lot of film. It's not all cartoons, it's not all disney not to take anything and away from you know a lot of the great disney class, but it's supposed to be the beginning of your journey and not the whole thing. You know like the little memory is supposed to start you off, but then you go and find other things. And what's terribly depressing to me or disturbing or both, is that you have people that are still adding into IT as they were when they were five except their forty. I think that's a bit .

problem and it's not cheap, but I I have never been. No.

it's very hot and it's not cheap and it's therefore these meal plans now that they offered people, which is like this terrible you know kind of gross food they'll give you throughout the day. If you pay like an all inclusive fees, someone will go put a year in your mouth every half hour and then you have no, you know it's there's a lot there's a lot of disney, like people out there talk about how to do the parks。 There are these people um a copy size people that are now trying to review disney rides to see if they fit in them ah there are people that I have youtube videos dedicated to the time of shoes you have to wear at disney world because there's a lot of walk english people that I love disney role but I refused to walk is their hay I get so I mean, it's it's become very big with the maybe voluntarily disabled community where you help me.

Is anyone voluntary?

Lily say he seems to be, we have a few people. I mean, i'm not an olympic swimming that going out there and you know shooting on people, but i'm saying you are people that seem more excited about the a the a scooters and the whale, irs and everything like that. And a lot of them love disney world.

What's the connection?

Just societal collapses. Societal collapses. Think big inaction. But there's something about being a child forever and a place that tells you you should be a child forever and that IT is good to have the qualities of a child.

perhaps was like a dead profession.

She's kind of a day perfect. She's kind of like there was a woman who in new hampshire wanted to open a dier SPA. We are adults with where dies because they have a some type of fetish where they like to be in dies.

And this woman was trying to open IT in this tiny new hampshire. And many people of town cut mad at her. You know, it's very hard to open a small business, and nobody really wanted that.

And IT was a debris. I was for IT because I said, if you make the migrants that are coming to this country work at the SPA, they'll just go to europe. So I said, we don't need a wall.

We just need to let, can you know, get everyone over to the diver spot. But I put the kind of modern A A lot of the modern disney world, uh, cultural stuff kind of just above the diverse where you have people that are going to this place where they feel like children. I don't know what that is.

I think you should go for your children. It's an experience for them. When IT becomes about you in any way, I think it's sick.

But IT also seems like kind of important like this is a measure .

of something yes, I do I know I think that this is a weird there's a way obsession um with um you know this idea that you're like this is me. I have no shame and I you know there should be things, I think that people are ashamed dove, or they like quietly. Maybe you love disney world and you're an adult.

You shouldn't announce IT to the world. I don't need sweatshirts and t shirts and tantot and Mickey heads. And I don't need to see on your social media how much you door disney world, you know, and if you can fit in a ride disney world, just I don't need you to review that on youtube for everyone. Like there is something about keeping something things close to .

the vest because .

they are shameful, well, because they're certainly not ideal. And the idea of that this is not your best self that you're putting out there. And I understand as a comedian, there's a lot of things that we do where we don't put out our best self.

But then there are know what, we always try to make that funny. We make that funny and we make a joke out of them. But there are a lot of people out there now, I feel like, that are forcing the world to accept them in their worst iteration, if that makes any sense, without admitting .

that that iteration sucks yeah .

without admitting that, that iteration at the very least needs some work. And I think there's a lot of people out there that are just like, k, this is me. This is that that sounds .

like giving up.

There's a lot of giving up, I think.

Do you feel that around us people and giving up.

I think there's a lot of people that don't see a future and technology has made the world prety isolating. And I think um which is the exact opposite of what I was intended.

that you're enough to remember the process of technologies to bring together every connection .

gonna be together. But IT seems pretty isolating. And I think a lot of people are out there and they're not they don't see any future that they are excited about and they don't think they can you know have family or afford the standard of living that they would want a family to have. And yes, so I think there are a lot of people out there that diggle with .

that for sure. And technology related.

Well, I think technology, certainly it's lessen community. And I think physical community have suffered a little bit, because all of the the way that everyone grows up now is pretty. This pretty. You flatten, everybody been flatten by technology, meaning everybodys looking at the same things, the same algorithms, they're being fed, the same stimuli in the same inputs, whether when I grew up, you would meet people from different regions in the country and they grew up completely different, yes. And they had a different musical taste and they had uh completely different ah know histories and .

cultural influence in .

an acts and sense in everything became together a and and you know there was a really interesting cultural diffusion that happened when you met someone from Louisa, washington. Now I got to be honest with you. I feel like that's less true. And I feel like it's less true because I think everybody he's kind of growing up with the same algorithms. They're being fed the same things and when you meet people, they're not as interesting as they once were because you've all kind of had a similar childhood, whether you know what or not, because you've been fed the exact same stimulate over and over again every day on your phone.

which I mean, even leaving aside the potential fully controlling brains and making them obedience serves, which does seem like the point to me yeah IT a marginalizes everything and makes everyone just sort of flatten boring .

IT makes everybody boring. And it's one of the things that, again, you would think that the great promise of technology would be the exact opposite, which is that everybody was going to be more unique or more interesting. But that hasn't happened.

I sort of noticed this with their early apple ads. Yeah, in the idea behind the personal computer was this is your window into the world, but it's also way to broadcast your own unique qualities and your you you're distinct from everyone else. And then you look at the apple store and everyone's dressed exactly the same. They have the same nose ring, the same t shirt. Yeah, the orts store to me to screen, okay.

right? Well, that's what IT seems like. Yeah, there seems to be a comfort in that type of making everything very clean. And imogen ized, yes, where everybody is kind of you know expected to have the same value system. And that value system is kind of being given to them.

I was really struck last in the dinner that we had yeah by how many people you know and by how many places you are yeah well, all the time like all the time yeah just on tour but like you seem to be talking to people yeah and that was the opposite of the life I thought comedians lived, where you're sort of A L loan online in your hotel room.

Well, how do you do that? Yeah well, I can speak for all comedians, but I know a lot of us do travel, a lot, a lot of us talking about I always just been very curious about the world.

So i'm incredibly curious about why things are the way they are, why certain people and certain ideas become popular, why certain things seem to be inevitable, how the society is set up, the things we know, the things we don't know, the kind of hidden, you know, power structures that we start to realize, how during they are in older, you don't realize that when you're Young, everything when your Young seems to be. And I remember watching a saturday, and I lives a kid, which was a hilarious show that I loved. And IT was bushed gore, and IT was very funny.

IT was these two guys and know that will farrow, I forgot to think, tell hamond algo and IT was really funny. And you thought that was what the world was IT was these just, we have two people, they have opposing ideas. We all go vote, and then one of those people becomes a president for four years.

And then that person and ask an agenda that people either disagree with that or agree with to, you know, and that person as varying degrees of success. And they're judged four years later, that I was thought, that's what everyone thought. I think my understanding of this country is so much deeper and more complex and more interesting than IT IT, you know, originally was because now I I believe that those things are only part of the larger story of how the country actually Operates.

What what changed your view? Like when was the moment you realized that's not actually what's happening?

I was I read a book I called family of secrets, which was an interesting book by a guide in rush bank and he rote of the bush family and I was about um you know basically a lot of these events from from jf kay to water kate that he had kind of this alternate understanding of how these events had happened and he had gone and interviewed lots of people and he had researched, I think the book took him about five years and I who was came at like two thousand and seven or two thousand nine maybe and I was reading that I was in the mortgage business that had fAllen apart and there was nothing to do.

So we'd all sit our offices and kind of fucker off because I was nothing to do. So I was reading this book and IT was really, you get IT, I have borne the nobel and I was just IT was like, yeah, was just a walk yeah, just just some my own and my me and a friend we're reading at which gotten and I was reading and I started to analyze things in a way that I never had before. And basically, I was kind of this light that went off in my head.

I'm like, or what if everyone's lying? What if everyone's not telling the truth? What would that look like then? What would IT look like if everyone was just making things up or tell you want here? And I mean, IT was like ino.

IT really is an interesting way to look at things. It's a bit cynical. But when you start looking at all these things, you go IT doesn't even make sense. IT doesn't make sense that you'd have a country of all these billion aires and then they would be told what to do.

But these people in congress that have no money and some of them are you know relatively uneducated of all those millionaires that are you know controlling large sectors in the economy. But they're just going to take edicts from like the guy, the local milkman that ran for congress and georgian, he's gone to tell those guys what to do. That never made sense to me.

And IT also never made sense to me that when I watch us and I was a kid, you might watch these debates, and they were almost identical to the ones on TV. They were kind of silly, and they were you to have these two guys. And bush wasn't a great speaker, and gore was kind of insufferable, and they did these characters really well.

But i'm like, it's so weird that a comedy show is almost identical to the actual world that we live in. I'm like there's no way that that's the only level of power in the country. There's very little chance that that's how IT is.

And then you know, you start reading. You read books like the devil s chessboard by David abit about create to the national security state by the dollars brothers, and how influential they were you. You read all these books.

He found a song, that common stuff like that, and wrote that book that was completely removed from polite society. You read all these box, you get interested in IT and was just very interesting to me. You know, I was an actor as a little kid and like what kind of actor you know and not a successful one of my parents would like, you know, take me into the city for additions.

I would not get me because I was, you know, I was a good little kid. I had, like, a gravity voice. And I interest in work.

right? H smoke and and you.

chocolate. They knew I was coming. My body knew I was going to start, so they prepared.

But I realized how acting was interesting, because in hollywood I was really close to getting a job once, about four inches too tall. And the kid that got IT was foreign to shorter, and he looked Better. Next to the star of the shows, Grace under fire, red Butler was a siccum. And you realized how arbitrary a lot of these decisions are that are made.

And when you're a little kid, you become a little cynical because you're you're auditioning for all this stuff and you're looking the way and sometimes, like the director, sun gets the job and sometimes like you don't even know why you know you didn't get the job, you did a great time and you're basically as as a Young person. You you're aware of the you know the limits of like certain types of meritocracy where it's like there's stuff behind the scenes happening. And I think, you know, I started to think about politics in that way and I was funny to be IT was much funny as did you have anyone to talk to about the friends, people that I grew up worth that you know might have been into IT to, you know.

But I was in IT. Was this three, two thousand sixteen?

Oh yeah, this was like two thousand nine, ten, you know. And I would just seem very funny.

What did you make him? Nine, eleven through that one?

Well, when I was Young, I was very supportive of, like the iraq war, George of the bush know, but I was you on cocaine, and that that helps. IT really did. It's a patriotic c truck, be honest.

But I was believing everything that everyone said, that we were invaded by these people. And there we invaded because they don't have shop involves in afghanistan, and they don't have mcDonalds, and they can get chicken nugget like I do with my french and can smo pot in the mall. So they all decided to kill us.

what? That's terrible. So we have to go over there and build shopping mall so that these guys could go hang out and, you know uh, get, uh, you know whatever you know they need so that they're not miserable.

And all that is often, I believed that. I believed all of that. I was a favouring advocate of that because IT made a lot of sense, unlike we've got a good thing.

They've got a thing that's not too good. We have to go and help them. And IT, was this this thing?

What I just believed, that I believed in IT, and I voted for bush, and I thought that, you know, my first vote was for bush. IT was the second term. And I had friends that would ask iact like, we got to do this.

We have to know. We can't disaster their memory by by pulling out and doing all the stuff. I really believe that i've now completely, you switched, I know, see that as a complete disaster, a huge mistake and error.

And as far as nine eleven at that point, I was believed that IT was exactly how they said that happened. And now, you know, quite Frankly, I don't know. I know IT seems improbable that all of these things, the way that they said that they happened, I don't know what exactly happened. And people have attacked me for saying that. You know, because I just I question now more than I did.

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people call you names and use that as some type of and you know about these people call on your names when you say you, I don't really know what happened on nine, eleven ago. They're try to use that as a pejorative against you and say your conspiracy y there's your nut job, you're whatever and you, okay, I mean, it's those.

But do you ever think to yourself like anyone who believes like story of the way that has press everything, is a fuck and moron?

Yes, I think that, and it's funny to me how wrong we are. It's being wrong, is funny. So that's one of the reasons I became interested in this dimension of power americas. Because I actually either you laugh or you cry, and I started to laugh and I think how wrong everybody is.

So how do you think, I mean, you're inside, which is really smart, that the former milkman from George is probably not giving waters to the goal garage and actually making something that makes no n how do you think things really work?

Well, I mean, I think that you have A A group of people that have a lot of power and a lot of influence, and they probably have different ideas. They probably not a monolith, probably are different religions and races, and they have to put they they're interested in preserving their level of power. I think that becomes their main, their main objective.

And I think this is the thing that they all kind of relate on, whether they see each other or dislike each other, or have wars with each other in the press. And we intend to think that that these are blood fuses, and these are and and probably some of them are. But at the end of the day, they're all interested in retaining their level of power in american society and all over the world.

And I think those people Operate a in a lot of different ways, but a huge way. I believe that the Operation is subverting the democratic process here and all over the world, meaning, like the will of the people cannot get in the way of whatever they want to do. So I think they have to disguise that agenda anyway, that they can.

You know, the new thing now, for example, is which I you know, this is very, you know you know, today i'm in a dinner and i'm watching having breakfast and i'm watching, you know, this terrible airstrike in rafa, this place I did even know existed a month ago, right? Not like and these guys holding this headless trial IT states it's horrific. And we're watching IT in the banner and.

And you watch IT and listen, I think israel should exist. I believe they have write to exist, anti cemeteries exist. Baba law. I know that it's not all great over there, but you're watching this and then you go this seems unreal, seems very extreme. And then the decision of people on the internet that we are supporting us, no matter what, without any.

Well, do you note that? How a motts cape people in women and you go, how dumb do I look? stupid? How stupid do I look? That this is the, how dumb do I look that you are expecting me to believe that american foreign policy has been about the rights of women or IT.

Is that why we weren't afghanistan? IT had nothing to do with mining, right? So let me on, or any of that up. IT has nothing to do with the strategic importance of certain locations on, and all has to do with teaching, grow.

protecting and I protecting gay people.

And but we're teaching women to read. It's crazy. It's crazy.

But that emotional peel works on people and they go, well, I guess we have to kill children. Then that baby is homophobic. Kill and you start going.

IT doesn't make any sense. IT doesn't make any sense. From a logical standpoint, IT makes absolutely no sense. People can debate about israel or what we should be doing or giving them are funding, right? But so again, it's that you're taking this you're shoehorning this narrative into this conflict. And I think the way a lot of these people that have a agenda Operate where they go, we need to present this ukraine war as a way that we are fighting a murderous dictator who going to take overall of europe. And even though there's not there has was an evidence of that.

No.

there was really not a lot of evidence. There's almost none. You have to believe that. I know I live in in your brenly health, california. I live outside of the sea limits, but I had you and the worst people in the world know in about the hills, right? I mean, monster people like they make valleys, cry, get my ether car. Know what I mean? Like people jump out of windows and they to walk over their bodies to get their porch it's crazy that happened in the building I lived in.

But so these jump out out the way yeah.

this holly, we produce a Steve being he killed them and new Steve and he jumped out of the .

a window and Steve kill LED them. So don't.

I don't know.

but he was .

so I said.

I have no idea what happened, but he was the biggest donor to the democratic party .

under clinton. Yeah, that's the deadly move. Well, it's a little .

Steve began, I know, because he told me, yeah, again, changing his views on things oh and then the next thing you know, Steve being has committed suicide and yeah I don't know but a friend of mine who's very close to Steve bing ah and I was friends with Steve bing said that was not no, that's not what happened. That's a very possible building.

I know where that is. So I used to live there and I moved out of there because he has a dark energy.

Can you imagine a move? Because in a dark, yeah ah I couldn't .

really sleep and friends would come over and would sit and living room, one of these apartments, and they go, what's this and we're not those people. We're not like Crystals people.

We're sound spiritually sensitive.

Yeah I guess I sent to enough to realized he was just something. And then there was like a lot of like junkies, but you know, beeing each other, rap and beating up the girlfriends and stuff and the captive to come all the time. Not a great building.

I won't say which one is is I want to be sued by. I did trash him on the podcast, and they did. They were upset, but he was not a great building with the same people who would walk over and unity.

I talk to the vela ys. You know, the morning after that happened, there are people going, oh, that's terrible. Anyway, it's the blue push.

Let's go. So this is the type of person that we're dealing with, beverly hills. And you need people that are kind of like that to a degree.

And you know you do need people that are not, you know singing to by all the time. But let's just say these are not incredibly sensitive souls. Yes, they are living in beverly hills, right? I remember everyone had a ukrainian flag immediately after the war started, like they had been shipped.

Well, because they care unit, all these people who like .

you kick their way down the stairs.

I'm laughing because I grew up around .

people like in so the california so I know you're rise people that like scream and yellow people in restaurants. When something is not macro biotech or vee, they apparently became all humanity italians in the space of one night, and then the ukraine flags all over the place.

And if you asked any question about the ukraine, or what was going on, or why russia went in, or why they would be in nato, the freedoms? Yeah, right? So he was the same kind of argument, is the same very strange, manic.

good ark.

And you would just say, you know, I had dinner with R, F, K. In his wife, who I, A door, and his son was on. His son served in ukraine.

yes. And conner is a brave kid. God blessom know. I mean, hey, god know everyone does something right and he was talking about IT and and he said, you know and everyone at the table was saying, you know, heart to we're seeing a male to dinner that to serve the ukraine here but i'm defending that repute and at a dinner party, that's actually tougher. You actually you're the .

world needs the metal. I actually .

need the metal. And I nobody. So to me, I just thought, this is very funny. What shuts down comedy is fundamental ism, of course.

And so when people say you, you can ask, you can't know things, uh, it's, you knows why every dictator in the world hates comedians. They don't want anybody asking any questions about anything, and they shut everything down. And that's why people get that get offended very easily.

Usually have something hide. The cool is people in the world of the people will put fun out on the show. They don't care and they think it's fun and they don't. They go this guys of botho on and who cares, you know?

Or maybe there's some truth in IT that I .

should learn from or whatever or that perhaps, but like when you make fun of people, when they lose their mind, that they always suggest something right. So every time that I would ask about the ukrainians why exactly, we've never heard of the ukrainian. And every vice documentary about the ukrainy was that they were old Whites and premises.

Neo ni, yeah. Every vice documentary was like a bunch of people, ukraine, walk around you with access, stat and shields. And I go on when these people, just overnight, became like great Alice, and like brave people that we love.

So was like, okay, listen, I feel Better. Country invaded and digin what they have to do and whatever. But I just don't know.

You know, he is very interesting to hear people that have never thought, I mean, these people that i've lived around, I have never had a thought about another human being in their life. They've never had a thought. And in fact, they wouldn't even be effective.

And what they do if they did, these agents and managers they can't see was a human being. They have to see was a product. And that's what makes them good at what they do. Of course.

they have to see, was a product come king .

in a slaughterhouse. If you love cows, that's correct. Can't pet the cow? Are you tired? Do you need some time off? How's your wife? You have to look at the cow and go.

It's one hundred Green. Get on the plane, and if you don't like a due drugs, do drugs. So what happened?

The worst people i've ever know there's and .

they're always just like the black sheep of a very wealthy fame who everyone else was successful. So it's always like you have a guy when you have an agent, they go my brother works a one SAT, my sister is a neurosurgeon, and I do this because I have no talented skills, except I was born rich and i'm a sociopath. Ath, and I don't have any educational background, but I was never onna work at poppies making chicken sandwich. Es, so I sit here and I does, and that's who most of them are.

Can I ask you, is funny the last couple of years? Know, obviously, I know a lot of people have been cancelled. Know how these fake scandals, yes, whether they came come from.

And then everyone that has been dropped by as agent. And in a couple of cases, that agent has been jay series, I think, and but other agents too. And the body of mine said to me, well, I I keep this happened like, I I was really close to my age.

I know kids. I went with all the time, and the second person had problem at all. The agent issues a statement like distancing himself from his own client. Yes.

adding to the dog pile. Well, this is what that happens.

This is kind of, they have to do death penalty offence. Agent, what higher and age did that?

Everyone, why? Because what happens is everybody in that town is full of shed. Okay, everybody and everybody kind of goes on that like everybody, like it's the type of town.

Kay, no one believes anything. You go, sure they did. Like it's a complete you know it's a fun house, it's a hall of mirrors. It's it's a place of the agent that drops you in many cases will call you go ham, really sorry, higher ups or will drop me if I don't drop you.

Everyone's on the chopping block there from the co of paramount, the person whose working making you know a salads for their s at C A A R U T R W M A. Everyone's on the trap. And like there's nobody there that really a everybody just goes with the wind.

So somebody is a like a comedian if like the consensus that that comedians bad, I was like they are bad, they are demand from hell. And then if it's swings the other way and that comedians started doing really well, they're like theyve had a great year. There's nothing behind their eyes. There's nothing there and and that's just the accepted reality of the town.

So that's why and just no hard feeling.

You're right. You're have a human react important. That's what's happened.

You're having a human reaction to a video game, which is what IT is. It's just everybody's plugged into this matrix. Nothing's real. What people do is real, like the comedy in the movies and the art and the whatever in the books and all the things that people create.

But how people in the business handle them and respond to them is dictated one hundred percent by the winds that blow in. So if the walk wind blows in, they go, we're doing wall. Get every fat woman, get every minority there on television.

I want women so fat, the campus on their own. I want them in wheelchairs. I want them have one leg, and I want them to be indigenous.

go. And then when that makes no money, they go, great White guys, let's do that. White guys are back.

And then if that if if people get mad again and they want you, they don't believe in IT. The people there don't really believe in anything. It's just like they're just waiting to see which way they can go. Some of them like, some of them like comedy, like some of them like kind, like comedy. And that's the best you have .

to have you ever in all your time. And L A experienced, authentic human emotion.

One time I went to a thai restaurant and was close, and I was very sad, usually up to look at other races for a human emotion, to, like mexican, you know what I mean, like you, who we're like going, like, usually coming out of a church of doing something like that. It's a very weird place. I've learned to love part of IT and hate part of IT.

yeah. So different from where I lived at these fast canyons and mountains, very empty, and it's very hollow, and people are very passive aggressive and kind of laid back. And there's not as intense.

I grew up in new york and long island with a lot of intense people and there's a lot of like, you know, what is just to town that functions primarily with with the the only rule there is that everything's always great. So everybody is is always like things are create. How are you oh good like no matter what's going on in their lives, they want to present this thing evidence great because you want to be near winners.

You want to be in good people and people that are doing well and everybody just has to present that side of themselves at all times, which is why people saw its and that it's you know it's not real. But IT IT IT is that kind of the guiding principles. That's ark. But what if things .

aren't great like things aren't great for a lot of people, things not great. Who do you talk to?

Great question. I mean, I think there are like little groups of people that have honest moments. I've had a honest moments there with people, but the people that i've had honest moments with, no, it's very funny because it's the only place where someone to meet up with you and like look around and you'd think they're selling you heroin, but they're just going to say something remotely conservative you know it's very really yeah you people kind of just like like you know the border somebody button is a little old but IT IT is a weird because everybody's terrified of like, you know but that's changing now because I think the institutions have less power and the internet grown and people are more free.

So I think IT is changing and there are definitely opportunities for people to connect with the audience outside of that system. And I think that system is now also responded very positively for the first time to people that have came to audience on the internet. I think you're parting to understand the value of that and that IT isn't this world in which everybody y's good or bad or perfect or not.

There are people that make mistakes and there's people that also are you know a really good people that are not reflected by uh, a certain action. You know what I mean? Like there's this idea that like people are entire people, there are not just one thing you did.

And I think that's going to be I think that's what's the future, hopefully, is this nuance and complexity, whether we went through a period where IT was very simple and everybody was like, bad, good, not enemy, you know, now I think we're gonna hold that I and like, take a beat and like what SHE about and take a break that I do all the time with, like treating people's human being, treating them like with human beings. And I do IT all the time with people that I completely disagree with on everything person. But I take a step back and I go, let me look at them as a human being, and not just a collection of tweet that make me want to vomit.

I wanted ask you with that, but before we pass on from ma, I just, I even lived there many years, but I visit over on the homeless people addix mostly, but also non addix just a lot of people living outdoors. You really sad, visible sign of collapse in my, but it's all black and all White yes, pretty much. And L A think is majority heisman ic city it's .

a wide panic city .

but I don't see any or many his spending s living on the street what is almost almost so in the city, this majority mexican origin yeah and there's nobody like that living on the street. Like what? why?

Well, I think if you look at the rich, no, I think this is a lot of the homeless, a campus. So are open their drug market? Yes, people don't want to talk about IT.

People don't want to course, you know, mind people that are homeless that aren't on drugs. And of course there are people that are homeless that aren't on drugs. But I will tell you that everybody and L I has served people that are homeless that have mental issues.

And yes, some of those mental issues are brought on or exacerbated by drug use. This is just plain incident. This doesn't say that all poor people, drug ads, no one saying that, no one saying that you have to be a drug act. And the homeless.

what people are saying, going to say, since both of us are sober for that cracks O I think we have the right actually absolutely assess this stop title ship. That's right.

And all of the people that are struggling with addiction have not been helped by the people whose job IT is to help them. And the government's job this is to provide a safe environment for everyone, for people that are addicted to drugs, people that aren't intended to drugs. So the way to provide a safe environment for people that are addicted to drugs is not permit them to live on the street, use drugs and attent IT is not to permit people to use a fatal on the street and to uh over down on the street and die and this is not a compassionate thing, and this is not a good policy.

If you were an easter news, who did to drugs and you may, yeah, would you give the money for drugs .

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There's a lot of excitement. There's something when weird I remembers ly broke up this homes and cabin in echo par yeah a lot of people protesters were excited. They were like, and there's like, like hot, you know, people are not there. So people go, well, I go by things there, this to help.

I buy little land, yard and stuff that there's I could do you think this is a long term solution when you have this homesites camping in a park, and then people treating IT like a farmers market, all these like wealthy White people that want to help are going, you're giving the money for heroin and buying an avocado or some crazy thing. And I don't even know what's what people are selling there. But when the comes broke IT out, there was a lot of tension in the community because the community was against IT.

They didn't want the homeless and camping broken up. The very angry they were like, how dare these fascists break up this homeless camp again, where people were over? Yes, they want IT.

That's the thing I was standing the other day, fuck in san Frances on. This woman said to me, I said he was and I go again, the cities in a phone apart, I, the mayor, you learn a breeding. And I don't know what she's really doing because she's up.

She's trying to criminalize addiction. We went down that like your take, is that the matter of services go is too conservative because you trying to criminalized, unlike you, got to criminalize the behaviors that are often inherent with addiction. Yes, you know, robbing people.

Yes, selling drugs. You know, a crimes that involve procuring drugs, trafficking people. Like there's all these things that happen. And you know you just there's something that goes on and it's on the west coast more than the east coast for sure, where people don't understand the value of of of of standards being enforced. They don't see IT, they don't get IT.

They think that it's a completely ah you know in sensitive uh way to look at the situation and saying, like live a standard, you don't sleep in a tent, you don't camp on the street. There are home with shelters. Got to go, we have project room key, got to go to a hotel room.

But if you're going to participate that program, we have to, Simon to drug test in counselling because we can't have people using drugs in that program and providing drugs, other people pay people to pay people to kill themselves on the street. And that's a standard and we're forcing that standard. And that's people, for whatever reason, don't seem to believe that.

that is maybe they are the one who lack compassion like again, would you treat a loved one the way they treat the so called?

No, no, it's very angering. I don't know what IT is. Maybe they have this freak, weird fetish with people dying all around them. I don't know what is very sick.

very on. I know he's spent, and I know mexicans in the city, mexico. And there are all kinds of problems .

in mexican neighborhood, alia, because of the the weather. And then this program, someone study what the .

mexicans are doing and like, maybe do that. Yes, I mean.

our government lives on a in. So good luck. But you know, good luck about the studying happening yet. You do not see a ton of you really don't you don't wait this .

proportion to the population way .

weight is also you don't see a lot of mexican people not working.

That's what i'm saying yeah maybe the solution is not work is is not actually a lot of the White people.

no one as a job, even the ones that have money, they sit around, they kind of to have smoothies. They is that they float around, I don't know, but no one really works. Float around for cafe, have the kind of fake meetings.

They take meetings all they talk to another person and that's a meeting and they they go, what about know what about this and what do you things going on and they have coffee and they go, this coffee is not as good as the less. And you know, it's no one seems to be worked. The money from, I don't know, I have no idea, the ccp, and I don't for real, I don't know, floating IT.

I mean, usually when I A lazy friend, you go back in their family lineage, someone gotto beg the money somewhere. Yeah, the dad, the grandpa, the great grandpa, someone's got money somewhere. I don't know. I mean, without that, you meet a lot of people that are drifting around and they have .

their aimless and but and this is very expensive.

very expensive. And I don't think the max culture is catholic cultures, culture of working its culture of of parties and food and like enjoying life and getting the most out of life. But IT doesn't seem to be a culture that I would associated with amnesty.

No, doesn't seem a seems to be pretty. You know, I am sure there are problems in every community, but there's lot of aimless this. It's like, you know, that's a thing of people. People talk about, people talk about things, all the stuff. I know the White people in the west coast are maybe the most damaging group of people to civil society i've ever seen in my life. I mean, when you talk about the people that live in sad, important, the things that laws that they pass and favor, and i've never seen a group of people read more havoc on a civil society in my life than the west coast of the n.

What's the motive?

I, I N, I, I know what I I know they're trying to .

destroy things.

They are trying to destroy the important that was that look of van, this woman, like driving out of an and just shooting people up. That was called a stabbing wagon, whether you're shooting up drug addicts on the street and IT was crazy, IT was like, insane and this was like, and then they just reverse important like, no.

like this is actually you don't have to be for the drug war, which yeah really for sure you know, hassling people for parting at home even though i'm sorry, but if you get to a place where some girl is shooting people up in topics like you should be in prisoner.

he's always a limit, right? Because these people, they have all these ideas and then what happens is like a few people die in front of them in whole foods yeah and they are on, well, maybe maybe like IT is finding out. And when someone dies in a whole foods in front of them, they start on, you know why me? Because the consequences for lot of these people just so far removed that they're just not present, they are just not the honey, get there.

There's somewhere away on the forty minutes of the city, whatever this is, and they just kind of don't care. But then people start in dying in whole phone. And after here, maybe this is an ideal. This might not be great. So IT takes that though IT takes something extreme like that for these people that kind of wake up .

obviously bad person. I don't want the pivot to happen without someone being punished for this. Yeah and there's someone who grew up out there when I was really idea was sort of the human civilization and seventy five and moral canyon, right? And now it's this topic. It's like someone should have to be held to account for this, pay the Price for that. But they would like, actually like I was never for that like the cover I was I did yeah.

I mean, it's interesting. Do you think they would treat the internet where they treat the real world like all these people who they love, how functional their sites are? Anyone that says you think it's ban immediately, everything's very clean.

They work very well. You can access them pretty easily. They work a lot about the user experience. How is the user experience walking down the street? The five has the four or five you experience there.

How are you interfacing with the person who just od in whole foods? Like apply all of the same things uh, to the real world. They just don't seem to care.

It's a brilliant though they seem not to give a ship. They seem to care mainly about the digital world in which they are creating an assuring people into at a very rapid pace. And they don't seem to care about the real world. And if I was a conspiracy, not, I might say that the worst of real world is the more people are dependent on the digital world and the quicker you can get them all there. That might be, if I was, you know.

haven't fun, I might, you might like, go down the entire U. S. Economy and forced everyone to .

stay indoors for year.

Seems like at my big decent plan. But with that, actually work with people.

choose amazon of local retailers. Yeah but yeah, now you transfer, you could cancel rent and and transfer all that well from local landlords and demonized them to corporate landlords. Now a lot of the united states, if you've ever had a local android, which I have, you're much Better off.

I've been broke for years. I was a comedian. You're much Better off sitting down with someone face to face like this is going, I can get IT thursday, then you are dealing with black crock.

So they are not as compassionate .

seemed not to be. They seem not to be. So this idea that we demonized anybody that don't do two family house, and we said, look at this scum bag landlord, and they own a three family house where they live in one of the units, and the other two units are people that they went to.

And we said, look at these people. Their pieces know what happened. All the corporate landlords bought everything on everything and are raising the Price of residential real estate for everybody that you know is trying to buy a house. So it's weird where we do because we've never here anyone talk about no one talks about no one cares.

No one talks about the fact that most of the new constructions in london, at one point IT was sixty percent IT might be more now or less, but at one point IT was about sixty percent of all new constructions have been attire now are being bought by foreign nationals. With lc, you're not living there is doing in new york, I mean, or doing IT in all these cities, most of these buildings. You look at new york billionaire roll this four lights on this huge skyscrapers.

Who is there? No one's home. There's no school bus. No, it's taking their kids to school. You know a guy that comes in and is launder ing money through real estate uh in uh cities like new york and london and .

places that so that's why is the economy crater 下 and people are just poor because of inflation。 Housing Prices don't drop, no.

don't drop deficient, propped up. And that's why these cities are really rich, wealthy city ago, who that has all this money, who has all this money to buy these apartments, and then you go always criminals, small over the world that are washing a lot of dirty money. In real state.

And i'm sure maybe just rich people that aren't criminal a ba, lot of them, a lot of them are guys. If you look at up this, a guy like IT would be like a guy who poisons in the river in ambition and is and it's like, that's what all these real estate shows are fake. They're all not true.

They're these with these attractive women. They walk around and they find these like, they find like guy is a basketball player, a guy is an actor. None of them.

They're even buying the houses, by the way, I know the people that work on these real picture. They really sell the houses to a lot of people that just come in speaking complete Mandan d's real agent. They to speak complete manner to a transplant.

He just points in his bird hill in pointing, there you go, they stand outside to look to you. And the the ones are actually biting houses or russian nationals of the guards are of people in the united arbela its are people from the brazilian mining magnets are people from india. It's it's a very it's not really lot of domestic buyers and l is in new york.

It's a tone of foreigners know and that's why these reality chose us. Aren't true. If they were true, IT would be a real test agent.

Greeting someone of the done this is a beautiful things, go at the egg. Are you okay? Everything is good at the hague.

great. We saw that. Take a look at the veranda. They have a great. That would be the real show, but it's not the real show, you know?

But what about the people who live here? They can afford housing.

They can afford housing. And no one cares. No one cares because they the whole game now is people just say, rent, rent, take your birth, don't need to try. You need to own anything.

What you moved personally? Yes, in the opposite direction. yeah. So you made money after years of being poor? Yes, IT sounds like you didn't put IT as much in the market as you didn't.

To real state why relate to me something I understand, I would probably get richer if I knew more about stocks or if I knew I was caught up with that big one crazy. And I still have a good equipt. I know I remember, you know, we talked less.

I remember sitting in a table with, like, jake, paul, a few these guys and jake pols. Like, are you investing in come? I said, what is that he is like, well, it's it's a coin, you know, it's A A shit coin.

But I was going up is that i've made all money. I called my business manage to miami. I'm a sober guy, but I feel high because i'm calling my business measure to amo.

Should I invest in cut rocket? And he goes, I think so, I think so. This is how not everyone .

got to invest in come.

I, I was at the end of the dead pulled out. Unlike now. I just stick with the .

big point in theory of that camera .

I pulled out of come rocket. I said, you know what? This is too volatile.

Yeah, you with a draw method. I well.

with withdraw method of come rocket. And I said, we don't want IT all over the place. But IT was a crazy time.

IT was an inane time. Nfs, people were making millions of dollars. People were making all this money with the coin that was a complete house of cards.

IT was crazy. And I think bitcoin is a good thing. I think having this decentish zed currencies actually really cool thing. But like everything else, the world that grew around IT was a world of criminals.

And on artists and film flam, artists and people were fully ship people that were just taking all this money and pumping all these things up. And just all these were stocked scams. And something like that real day, to me, seem the most safe, because I understood IT.

I get IT. I understand people always need houses. One houses, they give you joy. They make you happy.

There are things that promote other things in society that I think they are good, like having a family and keeping a family and having I have a house on the line, right, and have my family come and visit, and like an hour for my father and only a few hours from family lives in road island, like I think having places for people to gather, very important part of my childhood. And those things are huge. And I don't think you get as much joy from come rocket, you know, as an investment.

You might get more money. So I I understand that, but i've also watch friends not be able to. And I got lucky because I was a medium.

I got to started a podcast. Rogan, help me out a lot. I put me on a bunch.

I got really lucky. But our friends are hard working people. Firefighters, teachers is the people that actually do the jobs that makes society work and run. And they're having a tough time now because intra trade or seven percent and the the the house values and with the rates, I think is the most time most of time to buy like forty years? Yes, crazy.

So how closely do you follow residential realistic markets?

Very.

are they going to come down?

Yes, the answers eventually. Yes, there's more inventory coming in twenty, twenty five. I think that rates dropping will get people of the sidelines right now.

It's an inventory problem where there's just not a lot of houses. There's not a lot of houses on the market. Boomers don't want to die and they don't want to sell their homes.

Boomers used to other homes, go to florida, get a condo. Boomers don't want to do that. They're actually retiring. In some cases, is bigger homes.

It's kind of hilarious. And some at times because selfishness .

is showing showing in to them that their whole the thing of the boomers is we've been allowed for very long time. Many of them obtained absolutely the wisdom. So what they've .

so that's not easy, but not easy. It's actually impressive.

And what they've done is everything's in material. So there's big house that they lord around. I mean, some of my friends parents mean i'm writing a book about, they are, they know nothing, I mean nothing.

But they laugh around these big suburban castles. And their whole sense of self worth comes from this IT, comes from materialism. So the idea that they would leave this big house, which is every argument that a boomer ever tries to win, they just point at their house.

I mean, they don't know anything. They have zero idea. They've read no books about anything. They are very funny.

The less really, truly funny generation, I think, because everyone has becoming flattened, but they are just very funny and deeply selfish. I mean, it's it's funny to watch them. You know, IT is funny, but they're never going to get rid these houses.

So their kids are connect. There are being help hostage him in the whole economy know, I mean, poli a by this very old people with mcconnell, they won't retire. None of them have any plans on retiring.

You want to die in office. And that's very much like across the board. Nobody will sell their house. Nobody will step down at their job. It's just a generation of people that don't want to stop .

because they're afraid of what's could mean they know theyll be punished the next life?

I don't even know. They seem to be very ambivalent about that. They seem to face death and kind of a very like h they don't seem to be too. I I kind of don't .

seem appropriate.

afraid yeah, I would somebody impressed by them actually of they are casual about IT. I think because IT is you know their their main fears are discomfort. And I think if they're gone, there won't be any more discomfort.

There's no more traffic. What you're running a book about the book? Yes.

they are my teachers .

growing up here, all bad 的 from first grade when I realized .

to the they're funny though。 So to me, the thing that I say, what I say that they're terrible, all things you you would say that there are, but they make me laugh.

They're very good trend over the last seventy years. They've driven and fAllen for completely, whatever, some trend from the pet rock of feminism. M, yes, I can cover all in on every trend.

The thing with the bombers is their lives started their wood's stock. People, right?

Hundred percent.

They all into. We all believe my parents didn't, because I was, I could do not. They turn, the rap is too much traffic.

You imagine they were bombers even then, and they literally turn their car around. I mean, it's it's unforgivable. It's unforgivable behavior. What happens is we are LED to believe there is very progressive generation of very interesting change, agents of change and spiritual people, right? And then we we see, of course, that there's just selfish drug adults that wanted just do drugs in the field, which has its benefits.

But let's not pretend it's a grand life strategy, right? And and then they just kind of you know by into the the most propagandized generation in terms of advertising, I mean the abb a stuff I mean, like they felt forever. They feel a poison growing.

They fell for everything. They fell for every corporate slog. And my father, who I love, but will cry at commercials, he would cry at the buddies cloud deals into the nine eleven thing.

He loved the buddle wise of frogs like he loved them. They loved commerce. Boomers adored commercials. They liked commer, a good fodders commercial with family sit together. And their drinking coffee bombers loved commercials. They thought ah that all of these things that the corporations really cared about them and the kind of they were very somewhat naive. I think there they're kind of like spinning out a little bit now because they would ve realize a little bit to some degree how wrong they were about everything and and IT was kind of now it's kind of becoming you know apparent but they like .

being lied to is what you're saying.

They liked IT because he was all about comfort, the idea of moving into the suburbs and getting this house and having all these things. The mark of success became comfort. Know for years in america, the mark of success was like conquest of settling some achievement, ever achievement are coming up with the company, or an advancement make people's lives Better.

You know. Then I became about comfort. It's, where do you live in? How leafy Green is the suburb? You wears the pool? And I was just like, let's relax, let's grill. And I think what happened was a lot of these people just became kind of creatures of this environment where everybody was won up in each other with cars and you know, like, but they still had that like hippy thing in them, so they would still do weird stuff like my friend's dad has like a band and it's like he'll go, you know, playing as bans and terrible that but they'll have fun like, you know, they were just.

These things that they like keep from that era, even though they you know have you know gone fully down the road of like just materialism and they didn't really like their children. That's the other thing I find funny. They view their children was like obstacles to their own succession.

For film man, the boom is really didn't like to chose the first generation people. They didn't really want their children to have IT too much Better than they did if they wanted them have a Better at all. IT was kind of a weird disk.

I know there was this weird adversarial relationship. My friend's mother, just like fake SHE didn't go. Was what to like, fake some injuries. He said he was attacked at a that was a attacked at a supermarket.

Is blame attract you? What lately attracted up the story that to the attacked at a supermarket parking lot SHE just was a kind attacked. And I can't go to dismiss this wedding.

God was wedding. why? They're crazy. These people, I don't know these rumors. I don't know what they do, what they do, but they are just it's just very funny.

It's like, so what one very funny thing was after my mother died, I sort got, I was the four my yet, which her sister and I go, I go, what do we think about a funeral? Everything like that? You maybe thursday, I know, because we've got a boat thing, not really is your sister yeah because we're gona go to .

boat with some friends.

but we could get IT. We maybe do IT next. We figured out next week. So but that's why there so that's why I do love them. I don't hate like I love because like they're horrible, but they make me laugh so much.

And I was able to, you know, just fuse the stuff together to make IT no lending all suckin there's other generations a problem, but daters they make me left. But they aren't terrible. They are really terrible and that's what makes them so they're getting credit for.

So finally, someone who's dislike them since like one thousand nine hundred and seventy seven, I really have .

to yeah because they spoke .

entirely inclinations. There is so big seems where everyone is a true yes.

I kind of revolved by everyone. And there is just, I remember growing up, all my transporting all, they all spoken like things. None of that meant something. Know they would demonize perfectly good jobs like union jobs. yeah.

Like, you want to be like that eye, you want to be like that I and they have these empty corporate health cape jobs all turn them in, alcoholic and everything. Like, you want to be like that guy. And I was usually like an in shape guy, like working construction.

And like, you want to be a combet. Like camper wants to sit in office like me and sheet on your mother. So you, so is this.

There was demonized. Other people. You are always in a rat race with other kids. They always talk about these other kids and Better than you. I was like, you kind of a weird, like, weird. But nothing was nothing was really focused on on excEllence as much as I was focused on winning to make them look good.

So like know if your board, parents and sports, they were always kind of like they weren't getting you up and making you train, but they would go to the games in a yell like they would go like, there was this woman, this woman, her daughter was a swimmer, my mother was a swimmer coach, and this woman would get up in scream, go should be like, totally, her daughter's corner. They're just screaming in yelling, but you'd never see IT, only the practices at A M when the kids in the pool, you know, they want at the end result. This was the whole.

So they are the ones who pushed the college, lie, push colors, go to printing. And i'm so proud .

they have to go to college. Our kids want to college, and they they push that lie because, again, all they wanted to do is get the kids away from them. So that's why they were to eighty activities every week.

You could martial art, soccer, dance class, whatever IT was that they could put you in a car and put you away. They drop you off somewhere. Good luck.

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Did you get a college? No, I went to our community college for two years and drop down. I won a debate championship, gold metal and debate. And I just dropped out of college and I went to finance. I didn't like, I didn't .

like parent, your bom parents.

They were disappoint ted. They were thinking I would fail.

I knew you well.

I mean, so the two options for a boomer kid, a milenio, whatever you want to call mage anax, or whatever succeeding, which they would be happy back, they would claim total credit for IT yeah then fAiling and then they would go, um well, you didn't listen to us, of course, he felt.

And I think with me they were very much like he's gonna a big mass and we're going to get to tell people all the time how how you didn't listen anything we said and this is why but then IT IT ended up and looked like he was gone way with the other way. So they're fine. Now they are cool with that.

But it's just IT is he was didn't expected. They didn't expect IT would you like? They said me, my father's wife said to me who I do like a lot, but he said he was, how does someone like you who made every wrong decision in their life end up with house like this? So, but that is the way that.

but that is the way made, the right decisions .

that occur to them. Never, never, it's interesting, but that is kind of the way that they you know.

the way the results do you sort .

of tell the story, you know but yet they were interesting. Their spiritual life was materialism, yeah. And there their lives were really um about themselves more than anyone else.

There's never been a generation where it's been about them as much as IT is but in my hand said me and I cover IT and made me laugh SHE goes where on the phone and I do they just made me like someone SHE goes, SHE does. I hope everybody gets this vaccine I said, yeah, he does. I hope everyone gets this vaccine I said, yeah, he goes, because I want to travel and I worked my whole life.

He goes, i've worked my whole and a by the way, everyone's worked the whole course is the funniest thing to say. Everyone's work their whole life. Like, what do you talk IT? Like, okay, twenty people didn't work and they they grew up with whatever. But like where he goes, everybody Better get this vaccine because I want to travel, I want to go on cruise es and because i've worked my whole life and I believe she's been retired for about .

thirty years with dental.

maybe twenty five years, but like IT is just a fy. It's very funny the way that they are that they just it's their perfect.

So you said a minute ago that the internet has decentralized power and powered all these institutions and those the institutions that kind of decided who was successful, who wasn't .

particularly in attainment.

business, news, sports, even yeah um what does this mean for like their ability to crush people, they don't like to cancel.

People have to find new ways to do IT. And I think there there they're a little panic. I think IT hurts their ability to do IT substantially, dramatically that way. I think dramatically.

said your friends, with luck, I don't know ending luk, but I member the details that, okay, maybe unattractive. He's been able to have a great career. A crime like what was that?

No, not at all. And he's been able have a phenomenal career.

Why do they do that to him?

Well, I mean, there was a moment in which, and I don't know the details of every single accusation in that peace, but I do know that IT was a moment where people weren't thinking.

But even if they were not, even if everything written them about the guy that I read was true, you be like, alright, that's embarrassing.

Well, that was a time when IT wasn't enough that someone admit to a mistake or admit I was about destroying people, yes, about ending their lives.

why? I just think if people get caught up in these moral panics and they want to hurt people, and this is something deeply in eight in our uh, beings that have to be dealt with, we have to figure out, you know, why would do this? But this is something that people like mobs and they like gettings, right? You know, their pitchforks out.

And I think you he's been able another phenomenal career ties my movies is the so that medicine regarding es on all these things these fans love and is when the greatest comedians that ever live so you have that um but there was a time when people just wanted other people to be heard. IT wasn't enough to say I fucked up no matter who IT was or what they did. And I think now I think people are people are looking at the full the full picture of a human being and going like, you know what I roll over that.

I'm hoping all all over that. But there are forces out there that you're gna have to do. They may go back to killing people.

That's what they did for a long. That's what they did for a long time. And then they, now they deny, start destroying their reputations.

But before that, they killed them to remember that, yes, people would die on these weird ways, and cars would go off things and people can shot in middle. And then IT just started to be like, we're just going to take out people's reputations. Doesn't why people like people.

we're dying if you notice this and that's not not just yeah big .

right yeah yeah yeah it's it's yeah there's a lot of problems, not good.

but just a case to IT turns out that he done only survived this yeah this character assassination attempt but thrived.

He thrived because his talent spoke for itself and people. What is anyone .

keeping track of all the other guys who were destroyed?

I think a lot of them are doing great. I think a lot of them are doing fine because I think, as we talked about, is not the worst thing to have people turn on you because IT IT makes you IT builds resilience. Yes, you know who your real friends are.

You fall back on your talent. You'll lean on your talent. You lean on the things you can do Better than anyone else, and you try to make those even Better.

You have to be more effective in away. Yes, you can't coast. The tide will not Carry you.

So you have to find ways to you know create your own uh, environment and create your own inertia to move the things you're doing folk because you don't you won't be Carried anymore um by the mainstream. So you have to just go in. I think that's ultimately a good thing.

So it's bad that people kiss her. Us, it's bad. I mean, you must .

do what that no.

I think to do with people that lie in me all the time, like that is a version of kissing there. Of course people lie, so it's IT. People make thing, know they just if they you don't get a lot of good feedback all the time, but there are people that I trust to give me real feedback.

And there are not people that are usually paying. You are paying people that can get complicated. But there are some people that I pay, that I do trust in me real feedback.

But there was a lot of people that earn money off when I earn money, that tell me things great all the time and and I got, I don't know, that was great and I got, no, that was great. Like their job, as they just keep you in a positive mind frames that you keep earning money. Their job is not to bring any negative or real things to the forefront.

Mean, doing that is good for you to be able to act and confronted and little and that brought to who you really are once.

I think it's it's certainly good. If you're creative person, do you have to create a shake yourself out of a comfort zone, for sure? Yeah.

do you get enough hate that IT keeps you human?

I think so. I think I got enough here. You got enough today. I think I get enough of people that don't like what I do or say. For sure, I think things are appropriately difficult, meaning like I have friction and that's good.

I think that you know people are not i'm not a person who you know is a beloved with a lot of what I say, but my fans of people that like what I do like me. But then there are people that need some convincing. I think that's good. I think that's good. I don't mind that when I sit down with people and you know my manager people, I can tell me they like you, but they don't know really who you I think you got a lot of similar stuff from people go, well, their ideas about you, that or not from you.

they are just out there. So well, I agree. And I don't think something wrong with being attacked for you actual crime. What is something wrong with that? And I welcome IT.

It's being called names that actually aren't accurate yeah I once was talking to a new year time reporter who was telling me what racist I was yeah and I said i'm actually I first I tell you, if I A racist, i'm really not a racist. I'm i'm actually a sexist, right? And thought was hilarious, not true. And I thought, what that's a good line. Yeah didn't prit someone said .

that to me and interview I would bring that. yeah. I participate at once. I don't know a tone if I know some people in journalism, but I participated once in this thing. We're like, there's a few journalists like wanted to talk to a comedian today. They like, we want to shit using more comedy in our pieces. I was like, weight what? And they were just these totally unfunny, like people who just thought I was like, guys just write the fuck and news but they wanted like they wanted like.

you know, I just said, no.

I don't know. I think people that are good at this stuff are good at IT, you know and I just I can't tell you how to make something funny you because they are basically saying, like we think that our reach will grow dramatically. We're funny and I got might grow dramatically if you reported facts. You know that do they laugh? No, they didn't have like much so .

that are there any journalist you you .

like a reader? I am that I read all the time, agree with them, but I I think he's well read. I i've read, see more harsh every article that he writes, you know, I read, I read every way.

I'll read free press, whether I agree or not. I i'll read tie be or read your stuff of delhi quality of people that have written there. I read like now i'll read the Thomas freeman.

I'll be niclas Christal ve read the times that I try. I read washington post. I'll read.

An apple obama atlantic. I disagree with her. I don't want to go to rush you tomorrow.

I have an engagement. Thank you. Have a lunch. She's very hard to get the rush, I think got blessed.

But I she's no matter russia.

I don't know, they all want to go to war with rush. I have thinks, what is that at the kitchen renovation? And do you think, by the way.

is a little weird as you're an adult man yeah with a job is a little weird to have someone like ana apple bomb or any of these people like tell you what your opinion should be?

It's very strange. I mean, she's very aggressive on the russia. And there's this idea that I think we we have this purpose.

We have a deficit of purpose in the country. Yes, this is what I think. I think we have a deficit of purpose. I think the elites feel that the people that have lots and lots of you know time to think about these things feel the deficit of purpose. I think if you're working twenty hours a day to feed your family, you don't have a deficit of purpose.

But I think if you're lounging around in a dc townhouse trying to figure out what problems you need to go and desperately solve, you have a deficit of purpose. And I think this idea gives them the sense that now we are back in world war two and there is good and there is evil and this is the purpose. This is why we've lb in on the planet to uh confront the country with the most nuclear weapons of any other country, over two regions of the two northern provinces in ukraine, which you google image them. I mean, take IT. I mean, truly, truly, and I will give him part of this country too.

There's a lot of this.

which parts a lot? There's part of IT that we don't need. I'll give him part. If putin wants IT.

we'll give him parts .

of california, north jersey, think we should actually, let's really fuck him. Let's give him upstate new york. Let's give him a lot of michigan. Let's give him stuff where he goes.

Him and i'm good. Could he fixed connected? Do you think?

I don't know if anyone could. I was just since connected and I like the people there, but I don't know anyone could. I actually said on stage, be nice to invaded. This can .

read.

you get there. But yeah, I mean, I think there's deficient purpose. I think people, I get apple bomb. So she's lovely way.

I don't think so. She's a little .

vicious the way he writes, never matter, but very aggressive. It's very like we've got to go to, we ve got to go to rush and we've to fight put. And I am like.

is that weird? Some rich girl in dcs telling other people.

that's weird to me, I go, are you, is this a bad day thing? Are you? I, you know, I I wake up and I go, I should jog.

I should work. I should do Better things that I don't end up doing. And I go, I should, you know, I should have a breakfast of just some macrobiotic L A ledge that is more healthier.

I never think I should go to war with russia. I ve never thought, know. I got to take a rocha.

I should connect to the old friend. I have never thought that I should go to war with russia. I ve never believed, I never thought .

that was a good the summer you to go russia.

Um I don't know, I don't know. I don't. I I think that they like we need enemies.

We have a huge national security APP aratus that relies on conflicts. We sell a lot of weapons. Yes, we have a huge investment in that.

And you were arming ukraine and kind of an unwinnable war that every best who was on when bones, incredibly bloody and IT didn't have today. And you know, this is something where the secretary of state and think lincoln went, and you perform rock in the free world. I don't know if you saw that.

I did see IT. yeah. I mean, did that inspire confidence? It's disturb back.

It's crazy if my child died in war and in the secretary of state of the country that supposedly backing us showed up to play music, I would kind of beats in the middle. The war, by the way, wars not over IT would be a little disturbing to make. So it's just very strange.

And then, you know, the kala haris of, like, well, this was a bigger country to devait smaller country, and that was her, let me call, how is like a Brentside ood mom, know, this is like a wine drunk kind of brand wood, mom. And so that's the way a mom would explain that. That's like a brand wood, california pacific palace. You tuna tar short name mom explains that SHE goes it's a bigger country and invaded a smaller um so that's the level of understanding they want us to have of any conflict but maybe so maybe that sounds the truth is what you're suggest yeah .

but imagine it's not I imagine it's not everybody .

that I ve spoken to respect people like arf k everything there's a whole narrative that nobody y's read about nobody stood where was .

ongoing since two thousand fourteen yeah and always because we weren't paying attention.

Why do these minsk cords not at sign? I mean, like, you know what do you think it's really about? I think it's about, you know, I think you know when when people I can apple bomb, right? That russia is a failed state and we need to western ize that this is in the land of failed date. She's written these things and this is a common.

maybe a state you don't like. It's the opposite of a fair day.

It's sta. You can not like IT. It's been around thousand.

It's not I remember when I was my job to give shopping in most afghanistan, and I remember that or you do I I was a senior year in high school and everybody goes, here's what you're going, afghanistan. And in iraq, we're going to democratize the middle. Ast, this was the project.

yeah. Now this psychopath, one democratized russia. Back then, there were republicans and other calling themselves democrats.

IT doesn't seem to matter. They flow between the two parties. Book S I M S. MBC now all the time.

And I remold enough to remember that what I mean, how did we leave afghanistan twenty years later? So this seemed democratize the taliban, and that we should have got a five year moratorium on any conflicts. And after after its twenty years and the taliban goes back in power, IT should be.

It's like if you have a party armed by us, yeah, if you have a party at your house and IT burns down, your parents, go, your done. Now more done in our new house. You don't have any parties until you've got a really established that you've grow and learn from this. That was crazy to me. So when all these people make these arguments ago, really make sets, that we would be doing this again.

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Do you feel that changing like the extent that year with brennard wine moms now yeah, are they less enthusiastic about the brave ukrainian people care.

they don't care. cares. No one really cares. Is just fun to pretend to care. No one cares.

No one, no one, unless you are from the ukraine or you live in the ukraine, no one cares at all. IT is not even a real thing. You know, if that comes up with a dinner, people got terrible, terrible, terrible.

Do they have the sticky to you? But know what? It's not real.

It's not on our shore. IT does that affect us? IT is not.

We don't fight, we just ARM people. We send money, we don't care. It's not is your good thing.

It's not real. People get very upset, but none of these things affect us because we can watch them. But they're not impacting our daily lives.

They're impacting our daily lives and show the government. Now, the government said us now there were they're starting to do these really interesting things, are going, we need the draft. We we want to do that again.

Germany, thinking about that, we are think of military time to start an article where they're like elective service. We should reinstate the draft. They're stand up going to .

go fuck yourself. As that time I go here and do that.

they can talk. People started to park. There is up now that changes everything.

People started away and IT what's going on because they're clearly preparing for something huge. This is in the cards. You can feel that it's you talk to military people about IT.

They're kind of um they kind of of me it's there's I don't even know, they know but there's something ominous that they're preparing fortunate you can feel that that they're preparing for something big. They're floating all these ideas about draft. We haven't heard these for twenty thirty years.

Not even when suppose you remember terrorists going to block every city in america. We didn't hear about the draft. We didn't hear about the draft when terrace were going to blow up.

Every you're going to be sitting at lunch tables going to blow up. We didn't hear about the drift. Now we're hearing about the draft sometimes is coming. I don't know what's coming, but something on and as they are planning for something and if you can kind of feel, I mean, I don't know if that something picked up on or think I have maybe think maybe i'm being radic.

I mean, this is simple as they can't lose the war against russia, and we're waiting against mro in france .

going to troops in ukraine. Remember when they're trying to force in no flies on, I remember june show in the warning there. And D, C, great theatre.

And I like what I mean. I'm like, you know, a no fly zone enforcing that guarantees a hot war, an actual war. Russia, immediately overnight.

That's right. Immediately as they they were two years ago. I was very well. I was like, I was going with us.

What the fuck with russia tomorrow? As IT what's going on? I said we have done enough with the sanctions. What did we take at IT that we took out to a talk about the ago? You we d said nomex cons .

dramatically improved .

the no mcDonald we took out all the poison food and I said, listen, we've been enough. I remember took a lue, but I was like, big a lue, I think. But it's just so crazy like there's just something of all these celebrities clAmbering for a war with russia ago.

There's something strange about this. There's something that weird. And I I don't know what IT comes from this need, but they're preparing.

You can feel, you can feel that when microbes may, we have native trips in the and when germany goes, maybe we should have a draft. And you go, what's wait a minute, what's happening? What is happening?

something. So but I mean, you said a minute ago that there is no chance ukraine, quote, ukraine, which is really need to, which is really the united states can win a nice to nation with one hundred million more people in deeper industrial capacity as a everything was stupid from day one when it's not windy, right? But what in which is true? But what if we quite obviously lose then IT means after years of what we've ready.

almost lost in the way. If you think about this, russia, putin has urged um this people that were just loyal in the the government. He is consolidated power. He's opened the bigger trading relation with china package in brazil, I believe um economic production in the companies up first, you know the industrial productions up evaded all these sanctions.

pretty much the wages of gonna .

wages of he's in a stronger position now that he's ever been after this policy.

County thriving .

as is not yeah like it's a weird thing to look at that situation and go he can has already won in that sense if the goal was to start in him, which clear wasn't bleed out the russian military IT hasn't worked but I do think they are trying. There's something else going to happen.

I don't know what you're going to do, but they're so bad if if IT becomes really obvious like with the after and pull out that like we lost, that's right. All the those words that we've been throwing at for last two and five years.

they were fake.

We are powerless. We are weak and have ability. It's totally discarding tony blinking hill clinton is all the monsters in such are huge you can have because it's about them. It's not about us. It's about them.

Yeah and you know where we're gonna probably commit more money to that situation. And I could even see a situation where, and I hope we're not stupid enough to do this, but they are starting to flow. This idea of like the mony's not enough.

And I I don't know what's snacks, but we know what snacks. We don't want what snacks. You know, when people go well, we might need troops. We should have made up to. Well, this is what they are do in the ground we should have made peacekeeping for IT is very interesting recently theyve what the nato peacekeeping forces there let just what does .

that mean to drop a, quote, peacekeeping force, yeah.

into a war. Where are the nato of peacekeeping forces in gaza? Where are the nato .

piece in force? They not on the .

way in rough are they are not there. Where's that nato piece? Keeping forcing create? We know, we know happens. That is a football on war. And terrible .

world were thirty. But IT sounds like that's aceldama .

seems to be, I mean, again, I know genius, but I pick up on little clues out there and I go here .

seems and mike, john, the newspapers .

not going to stop. You think I don't think he's up.

No, I can read on him.

I need more evidence. I mean, he seems sort of like an you like an empty suit a little. But I mean, that seems to be my very good reflection.

Generic understanding him is sort of like an empty suit that is old yeah I feel like his you know there is and it's not party specific, but there are interests just bigger than the parties. And IT is a lot of you know that we have twenty two intelligence agencies. Most people can .

named three years four um we have .

a pentagon is incredibly you well find how much saying we should not have a military or intelligence agencies but none of these people are elected. We don't really know what any of them are doing and we don't really know the rationale why they're doing certain things um and those things never come up to a vote you know nobody vote s on even like our immigration policy, nobody ever voted on that. Nobody said, I think they refused to vote to on.

How can people mean were that about invasions around the world? We're spending untold billions to stop invasions, but at the same time, we have had millions of military age men come and our country because there's no border, ignoring that as there steering so intently at these .

foreign conflicts. What is that? Well, the most compassions thing to do is invade countries, make them unlivable .

and then have .

their people come over here and cut your grass stabbing regions in the world. A lot of those regions you know are are coming in to amErica and there's just no plan. I mean, obviously there should be some type of um you know I just don't think that all these people that you in grange connect ted, for example, I don't know, I can't imagine just from knowing some of them.

They barely like each other in the house, right? There's no way they love else l vitoria. There's just no way that they want as they and is not because they are else.

And it's just like they don't even like each other. They don't like the neighbor. There's no way that they love the nation of quama.

They want people to work for less money that they could pay. Americans, I mean, is just truth. And they want nobody wants to talk about IT. But you look at L A la is just tons of that, gardeners, people building houses, people, you know, and you know, you have IT all over the place. Rich people get a lot out of having people come to this country, and they don't have to pay them.

actually. How is that different from futile ism having a lot of service?

Not too different. It's not too different. I'm sure there a lot of people come in the country. The good people, they want to see their families and work and you, they end up being abused and they end up in a situation that insured.

And this is you know like you know this is like this kind of idea that we can just import um all of these people, everybody, and then there's not going to be significant growing pains and how many people we get a simulate into a physical space and a cultural space and a financial ACE. And nobody y's being honest about any there's going pace. Nobody is even it's a mixed bag.

Nobody's even saying it's good and bad. Everyone's going to it's great. And if you don't like IT, you are not see that is why you seeing all over europe and and a lot of people electing leaders at the anti immigration and timide tion because they themselves understand that there are downside significant.

Sweden is now, you know, the most dangerous one, the most dangerous countries. There's all kinds of articles been writing about sweden that the crime rates have gone up dramatically over last ten years or what's happened over the last ten years, right? So people, why do the sweets .

put up with that? Or why do, why do americans put up with that? What what is IT about? People in the west want to say White people who, like they just feel like they can complain or something.

I think there, there's two thought about certain people benefit from IT. So certain people go, well, they made the nanny are getting my nails done. We've got cheaper help at the beach club, whatever is. There are people that have a direct benefit from IT.

There are people that you know feel like um they ignore any potential negative or downside because they feel like they have a lot of guilt for whatever reason maybe it's the colonial period of the seventeen, eighteen and centuries or they feel like that the right thing to do is just to ignore any potential downside to immigration because they feel guilty about how the country was established or how people were treated or any of that, that feeds into that mindset, even if you go back, obviously, before the thousand and one thousand and century, slavery was all over the world. Conquest was all over the world. People killing each other.

Different races were subjecting and killing other races. People fought over land, religion. The way I I mean, IT was IT was a matter IT was plunder.

IT was violence. This was the way of the world, if you. But most people don't have any knowledge of like the ancient world. They don't have any knowledge of of anything path.

That period of colonialism is where most people start their knowledge of history, and in that period the west is seen as the, you know, the enemy of anything that is good. And so they're guilt that gets embedded into people is that I think, manifested in these conversations about immigration. Words like, listen, it's to me, it's very economic.

There's times in the country will need more immigrants and there's times in the country will need less. But there's probably a way to kind of decide who comes into the country. We should be able to check their background and make sure that they are not terrorist or not dangerous. And two, these things, I don't think that's an unreasonable as well.

If you're importing millions of people, over ten million people um with no education and no skills, high tech skills, at exactly the moment when technology AI is going to eliminate millions of jobs no yeah what is that that seems crazy. What seems like intentional harm?

Yeah well, IT certainly seems that that the people don't really care. I don't think people care. I think that you know you drive through. I think a lot of people just write off large swash of the country.

I travel around to a comment over the country, see places where people they have given up on this, they are given up, they don't care of knew. I remember detroit IT, when people just want all that bankruptcy done. You know, it's coming back now, but was in american city, people just want, we don't care and people gave up. You know this this happens all over the place .

and I think so you're in a real state investor and a nonstop traveler. I traveled a lot yeah. So where are the places that you think are promising over the next twenty years?

South florida, anywhere south of jupiter? I mean, I think east coasts, yeah east coasts there. There's a business climate there that people like people just like people like the thing that with california, which was a beautiful and amazing in the great state, it's like there's this idea that you you can't do IT in california.

It's so hard. There are so many regulations. Everything cause so much money.

The houses cost so much money. IT really is a dream, and it's kind of a pipe dream. And the new york is becoming like that.

Two, there are all these places that have become so unattainable for people that they're going elsewhere and and are going to text us going to florida. And it's not always political either. It's some of that is but some of IT is economic doesn't yeah no, it's people that are like way deeper.

I can't afford to live here and then the value of what i'm getting for my money is not worth IT anymore. You know if i'm living in venice speech, california, but somebody climbs over my wall and decapitates my wife, I don't care that the mexican food is Better, right? There is something right? There's a trade.

yeah. So I think that's happening. But self floria is is good.

I think that, you know there's texas. I think central texas is still going to grow. I can slow down.

Awesome was a good bloom during the pandemic. c. Central texas, I didn't will grow. I think like idaho, I think any of those areas, obviously, montano, all those areas are going to very expensive.

But you know, I know how I think, you know, climate wise is going to be pretty good, and those mountains regions incredibly pretty. And you know, I think there they're not going to be one hundred and fifteen degrees and stuff. So I think a lot of people will probably migrate in that area.

I think huts in new york, that area anywhere, this in our a half, two hours out of the city, because people are working remote, they are working to three days a week, areas like that. I think that don valley is going to be big. You know.

what about the west coast?

You know, I can listen, arizona, certainly, if you could take the heat.

not a not a coast.

yeah. I mean.

washing organ .

washing in state of all of those washing state um has is the most resilient. I think port land is tough. I think that unless you reverse a lot of their policies, it's gonna tough.

But I think the lifestyle of the west coast, washing states, of beautiful states, a little bit of a mass. But most people live there not to live in seattle. They live there to live the mounts of the lakes and the beautiful, I think, washing in state. I think the tax system is little Better.

And I think that there's a lot of people, I would say that, that area holds and builds in the west coast, you know and I think know I think orange county, california, which is about an hour and a half south L A, where the da actually prosecute crime, and people feel Better raising their families there, and they get that a lifestyle being by the beach. And since that, I think that holds. And hopefully san Francesco s get reversed and gets Better.

And I don't know, I tend think that IT may come back. I don't know. But you know that would be a hope.

What about home ownership? Like you grew up in the walls, you know even that old, yeah, people owned their homes like middle asia ot homes. Is that .

over IT seems to be over in the sense that it's becoming more and more difficult, I think, for people now to this trade off to earning a home all in a homes is not perfect everybody, not right for everybody. It's not, you know, always ideal.

IT is ideal for people that have the finances to do IT and to live, you know and to, I think is because I think people are looking at their lives now and they're going the amount of money in work and all the things that we're going have to do to on this home just might kill us. And that IT shouldn't that way. But I think that's what's happening. So I think the trade.

ffs, now are much higher. Why is anyone running on home ownership?

That was a pillar of americans to shot down the shot down all these people. You have to stop, but they like the worst people on the world. I know they're worst, but people want tell you there's this idea that and I think it's like we are a capital country.

I'm a capitalist. I think it's great to make money. But I do think that there is a point where consolidation, you have all these companies. You have three or four companies running everything, doing everything, you're preventing the spirit of capitalism, you're preventing small businesses, you're preventing competition, you're preventing all these things and become like kind of, you know, you have this conglomerate, all of these different um multinational corporations that just are these nameless, faceless blobs that on the government ami is hard to imagine. You know people opening a restaurant, starting a bed and breakfast, you know, opening a hardware store, opening a business they can't do IT.

And I think that now owning a home is the new opening of business where it's like, I remember, like twenty years ago, people like we can open at this and would you nuts now it's like people going, I can on home. So because I remember people, this country's to open businesses, that was also a thing. People used to actually have a business and work for themselves that has all been put out.

I mean, there are so people doing that, but it's very few. And corporations running everything eager to new york city. Everything is chase bank.

Everything's a stakeout that has fifteen locations. Everything is you know and I used to be like mom and pop diners and stuff that had great food and warned that expensive. And I and maybe a waited a little longer.

Maybe there is an attitude. Maybe there's a crazy person there who ran the place who was kind of an eccentric, but IT was fun. Now everything is corporate. I mean, every sushi restaurant looks like every stake house, and they all look like hedge funds. I mean, like you go to every place in your life .

with my hedges from the clock.

Just do your kind of marble and and like a neurology clinic, right? So everything and I know you're big on architectural, so that's one of my things. Two is it's like the same this of everything, how hollow and corporate IT is is designed to just, you know exist primarily screen.

And you know, it's like, you know you lost that. That's a thing of people. People all who cares with small businesses like nobody country live in fundamental different.

You see different things physically, physically different. What does nobody noticed that? Nobody notices. Nobody cares.

People are they're just being usher into this new thing, and nobody is asking. Everything is the same time. Corporations is the same. Twenty restaurants, you know, go you go to any town and you have the football dim, the baseball stadium. You have, uh the two two chain stake houses.

Ever heard of a cheese cake factory, a mall, a bad area, a some like historic place, the no one goes, you know, and a married at Hilton, a nice old hotel that's kind of broken down, but is kind of like charming and that has a brunch on a sunday. And then it's surrounded by forty five minutes to an hour of urban decay. That's every city in amErica .

outside of ten worth the resistance. Like when I was a kid, there was you called earth first, which I made fun because they were like liberals. Or now I sort of love them, but there's nothing like IT left and they would just go put sugar in the gas tank able dozers. You know, we're trying to clear cut woods to build development. And their point, they were kind of kinski ides.

While corporations have been a great job of going, we love you, we like you, we actually think you're great. We think it's great. We're progressive.

Everything you're into where into everything that you know the internet has is good. What kind of revived with we totally are were open everything. We're going to do everything you want if you want a black o you going to get one.

You're not we're not something sweatshops, but you're going to get you like female city. You know, you might know you. We can get anything you want.

We will do anything you want. You want a polyamine org here, a chase, we'll do IT, we'll do IT. We're going to fall clothes on everyone's house, but we'll do that.

And they keep moving in the goal post around where you kind of confused to go what exactly is happening. And that's why amazing in their ability to do when we grew up, always look at these corporate wall street kids, all you fucker and criminals, yes. And you know, we are watching our own backs, even though we know you need to make money in.

Maybe there's a way for us to make money together, but we always GTA watch back. The tech people are now very much like where utopians were great or good. Everything's good.

We drink ringers, we write bikes. We care about the environment, we care about you. Um and that's IT. You know, all the fourteen years are killing themselves because of our product, but we're good people.

And there's something really scary about people that come to you is always very and i'm just the type of guy where if somebody comes to me out of nowhere and goes, hi, I care about you. I love you and care about you. I want you the best life ever and I go, cool.

what? What's this about? I know what's coming back.

You know.

IT is rape. Yeah, was coming. nexus. Just get this van. So I think we have a situation where detect people kind of said getting event.

Brian meals here for, I guess, my hundreds mini commercial? No, no, no, no, no, no. Honestly, when I started this, I thought only have to do like four of these.

It's unlimited to premium wireless for fifteen dollars. How are they still people paying two or three times that much? So I shouldn't be victim blaming here.

Give me a try. And mid mobile dotcom flash safe, whatever you're ready. Forty five dollars, up from payment equivalent to fifteen dollars per month.

New customers on first three months plan only. Taxes in these extra speeds slower about forty gives details. I think this is I give up, says with that kind of brilliant .

analysis yes, he smart.

I'm not invited going to the van yeah that's stance here praise um so that's like um a much more effective but also a much more sort of female approach yeah rather .

than just like no .

just do old fashion fashion and or old fashion food is like i'm the lord, you're the surf yeah you don't like IT i'm going to flog you yeah there's something kind of straightforward and less threat thing about that, right?

yes. I mean, there's something straight forward about knowing people's intentions. Intentions are big and if they are out the open and much more comfortable, I know why.

If I walk into a if you walk on a car lot and somebody comes up to you to sell you a car, it's completely understandable whether that person's honest or not, whether they are going to give you a good deal or not. You know exactly what they're trying to do and you know what their end goal is. They want to sell your cars that yeah, yeah exactly.

When someone's trying to remake the world you live in for your benefit, and you have no idea why they're trying to do IT, and you have no idea what IT will look like, you have no concept of what this world is gonna like rural promises. This world is check words to connect everybody, but all this stuff and the free and open exchange of ideas, information. What has kind of become as this lonely isole dating thing where everybody, you know, teenagers are being severely damaged by, uh, these products that are out there and bits not good, are people that are their mental health has deteriorated these platforms right um and you know there doesn't seem to be any accountability.

Nobody cares. There's a few books about IT as few people are upset about IT. It's also very coded by youth political angle.

Two words like everybody about planning tiktok and i'm sure tiktok has spawned and what else but everyone's talking about IT because kids are now sitting down at the table with their family and watching the goza stuff that going, why we're shooting this baby in the face and their families going well. You know, I was a very good reason, good reason for that. I want you to focus on your driving test and you go here but lighting these people on fire.

And so now all these kids are getting information from tiktok. And nobody likes that. Nobody likes. So now it's going.

Now is going. So it's not betting tiktok is not effort, a last effort to save us from .

I don't think they key. No, they don't care about your kids mental health. I don't think they ever have. I don't think are interested in in your kids mental health. They are not interested in your mental health.

They're not interested in the mental health of anybody is so they're strictly not interested in your kids mental health. They are not banning tiktok because they care about your kids mental health. That just completely untrue. Now you know, I am not saying that tiktok in dock's thing. I'm sure there's things in tiktok that i'm aware their reasons for IT are not the ones you're saying.

What's your relationship .

with technology? I use IT for work. I have to use IT like peace is is yeah it's an it's enabled me to make a career out of what I do, of what i'm very excited about.

And I think if we have to live in, that is not something we could become light, light and just I go on my, you know, I have, you know, I will post clips of things i've done. I will read a lot. So I I go to judge, I read all these things yeah, every day I read a lot.

And then I go to instagram and, you know, things like that and I post where i'm going to be. And so you know, here i'm going to be here if you want to come seem here i'm going to do whatever. And then, you know, I go on a record, a podcast, usually once or twice a week, twice a week, every week.

And then, you know, the clips are caught. I post the clubs and I mean like that, it's a relatively healthy relationship. You can start reading about yours.

I don't read about myself, rog and told me that is like don't read about yourself and he's right good or bad. He's right to just ignore IT and do IT you're going to do he's right about one hundred percent at that. So I don't really read about IT, but you know I don't I didn't grow.

I remember growing up out IT. I remember not having a access to a smart phone until I was probably in your blackberry was A I was in college. You're not even forty eight, thirty nine, but I was come .

late to the game. That sounds like you probably in the last year of american children not to marinate in technology from birth.

Yeah, we were the last year, we were half and half out like we were certainly not marinating into from birth. We we were a generation of people that started and some of us were more savy than others. But IT started in middle school, but not I didn't come on anywhere.

Nearly a strong as IT comes on for kids now because we didn't have smart phones attached to us now I mean, I A flip phone in high school. I was like, who care? You can all exit. You're an invented all day with these things.

But do you make IT? Sounds like you make an effort just to answer your question for you yeah to connect .

people directly rather than I love going and seeing people who I I believe in that i'll go out olive earth doing that meaning like I don't want to be a part of. I mean, I might have to some degree be for my career, but I don't want to be a universe. I don't want to be universal world. I that that is no peal to me to see people.

I. I would do that.

I know it's interesting. I know it's important to see people stay in their bubbles. I'd like to see people all the time. I like to talk to people about physically. Yeah, yeah, I got to be in. There's something about a friendship that I believe needs a physical dimension IT doesn't mean you have to see them all the time, but like the idea that you can have dinner with someone even if it's once or twice a year, but the idea that you can be in their presence is important to me and it's not just somebody that exists N N and you .

don't just do that for work reasons. No.

I do socially at you to see people. Yeah, I want to know what's going on. I don't think you know what's going on. Reading tax Green.

yes. Yeah, is that why you've manage to stay saying despite being on the road all time?

Well, I mean things a relative term, but I think that helps IT helps to see people get out of the world of you know whatever the entertainment business is, just see friends and people are raising kids in, have businesses and have lives and live different parts of the country and are excited about different things.

And I have chAllenges I don't have and have aspirations that I find very interesting in helping you in any way that I can or or going there to like, you know, just hanging out with them and their families is important. Me to go and see the actual people living life. I'm a big fan of that. yeah. I think people staying in a place, I understand that people have to do IT that there was economic conditions in my life where I had to do IT, but now that I have the ability to kind of go and travel on me, people, so I think it's a cool thing to do.

How do you not crazy on the road all time?

Um it's difficult. I think it's difficult. I because I have to record the show every, I always somewhere we have to do the podcast twice a week.

So I try to like I said, when i'm on the road, I tried to book and things where I can visit friends, see people, old friends of mine will come out to a show and will go on and grab dinner, take a walk around their neighbors. Od, there is something you mean about, try to connect to with the people that I wasn't is important. Me, now older, it's become really important.

IT wasn't important. Me, if you came to be five, six years ago, I would go, who cares? You know? Now, if someone I don't know where, hey, we went to high school together and i'm like, everything.

Where did up by the guy I saw you performing everything? I go, what do you doing? And they're like A, I don't know. I'm like, I got going to do on saturday and I will go to the house, will take walks, will I wanted connect .

with people now, then you do not spend twelve hours in hotel?

No, no, no, no. I tried my hardest to meet people that I know or go to a place I find interesting.

You must million people who spend their lives like you do on the road, and they all kind of go insane or going to addicted to something weird.

I don't think you do this forever. So I think about thirty nine and I think i've got a few years like I don't think i'll be doing this forever on the road. I do believe that. I do believe that there's an end point.

Sorry, agents, but I do believe that eventually, you have to say, like OK, i've done enough and i've seen enough and this has been great, but i'm going to do a lot less frequent, I don't think. But there's a lot of people that listen. Everybody battles with things on the road.

The road is a difficult place to be because you're taking out of your environment or you're just dropped in this thing. And the conference of people look to and mean we're all everybody battles different things out there. You know drugs, food, sex, uh, lying and cheating, gambling, whatever is you are um you know have issues with the road makes IT come out. So you have to like you have to keep vigilant about certain things so that you're not in like get into trouble.

You mean that's why touring musicians die, right? Twenty seven .

right for sure that have hard.

How many years have .

you ve done IT? I've been on the road now probably about consistently things about twenty eighteen, twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen OK. So we're under its under ten years.

Yeah, even before that, I was doing stuff, but I was much less. Yeah, I wasn't like going all over the place. I was like staying kind of, yes, I was in new york.

I would go like to get our pennsylvania boston in our D. C. But now I doing a lot more, and i'm all over the country and we travel internationally.

So what's the worst you've ever bombed?

I did a good question. I did a you do these fun raisers in the island. You would get book, and they were very bad room for comedy that have these circular table.

Les, where people are eating dinner with each other. yeah. And you would be in the corner of the room of the microphones, and they would bring you up.

And a lot of times you'd be following A A performer or a somebody. This is a woman who was crying. A daughter died of of cancer.

SHE was like, he was a fighter, and we love. And I was collapsing, and then the guy gets up and goes, now we have a comedian. And I went up.

I'm doing jokes about, like, frozen yogurt stuff. And I just IT was bad. IT was bad.

IT was bad because IT was other disinterest. There's bombing where people hate you and you can almost feed off the energy yeah tired. And then there's other other disinterest.

There's other like, god, this was a bad idea. Animal checked out. And the worst thing is you knowing IT was a bad idea, was a terrible idea. I shouldn't be there and we shouldn't have done this.

What joke is defending people more than the other?

I have a bit about the ukraine people on mk. really. I do.

What do you say? I can't say here because I know will see me. i'm. What do I say? I say.

I described the seen or I see this guiza linski and I said, I don't like him. She's rip. He's good looking and he wants money and is something worse than a good looking guide.

Can't, doesn't know where to get any money. I go. He pops up in the middle the grammy awards, when you're just trying to watch what put you with your children.

And I said, you call them into the room and you bring out you're pregnant twelve year old and she's talking in the living room and your rather kid comes out in their non verbal and they're just in the back kind of and this guy from a country you've never heard of wants money. And I go, latimer. Putin may be not a great guide, but so far he's asked me for a zero dollar. And you know, people some people did not like that they didn't like IT.

Some people didn't like some people like IT.

But it's you know to me it's just funny, the idea of what a mess a lot of the people are in this country that we're asking for money and that makes me laugh idea that i'm just describing as crazy scene and then the guy and then they are like, wait, I yeah I mean, it's just funny to me it's just funny to me the idea that it's like, you ve gotta this peace .

so important is absolute import more important than .

your own children?

So you have never been to russia.

I i've never been. I've tried to go. We went on a tour.

We were in finland, which is close, very right, the border. And I was standing. My hotel love going.

I want to go to see Petersburg for dinner. The world is like our nado country ago. great.

I would really like to go. I said to fly private, i'll pay because, no, no, can't go right. So and and then I think one of your body is texted me.

One of your guys said that because I ask, I said, how do I get? Because we you have to go through a non nato country. yeah. Had to go through whatever turkey o serbia, that's a whole thing. So but I wanted to go, I want to go to dinner is a great restaurant.

want to go to are you going to go?

I would love to go. Yeah I mean, i've never um i've never been, but I like, you know, it's there's tons of beautiful architecture.

Zing, great restaurant. Tecture, I want to go back.

You should go. Let's go. I'm into IT.

I'm which age and drop you if you want. No.

sure. No, I don't think so. He might book me in russia now my agents are real money grabbing. My really, he's a real monster. If you said, I might be in navia on a corner like this, but with microphone, yeah what is that?

Just so your age is never like a moral cobs anything you do.

My agent wouldn't know what a moral com was if you took out a dictionary and explained the them is a good guy, you know, would would be his favorite thing that I was in russia. Perhaps not, but he would've me.

Is there anything you could do that would make him drop you?

sure. absolutely. You know, I mean, I think they drop you for all kind's reasons, but I don't know. I would say the most dangerous thing for me to do that would get my agency to drop me, would be to like, like, assert my humanity.

I am not an animal. I am a man.

Yeah, that would be tough.

Last question, do you so of all the comedians working today, the top ones, what percent of those are short, saying exactly what they really think?

Most of them. And I think that the really good ones are funny. And I think the most important thing is be funny. And then you know, a lot of times that is comes from a place of saying what you feel yeah and sometimes that comes from a place of of creating great characters.

And I can come from many different places, but certainly, if you know you say what you want and you take a ownership of IT and you say in a way that people find funny or interesting, that's the job. That's the only job that's why it's a great job is because it's really like the second old job and the oldest job I you don't think you'd be great at. I certainly wouldn't commend the Prices I do in the second oldest job, which is the kind of a town crier yeah, it's all we do. We're standing the town square going, hey, what's and so I think a lot of them are saying well, and I think that that's that's going to be the major shift. I think people that's where people are connecting to.

And I think it's just interesting like the guys who would dominate the business ten years ago, not all, but many seem to be in terminal decline. And those some of them seem like people who are sort of reading a scripter or who promised their job with a lot of things they were not allowed to say.

What I think is the the the platforms change. The you know what was TV is now the internet. Yes, what was film is now or digital for the most, but there are films at everything um and the platforms, the internet has a lot more freedom.

There are a lot of restrictions and there are all kinds of profit models, monetization issues with all kinds of sites and whatever. But in if you look at IT overall, there's lot more freedom on the internet. Then there is in a corporate advertiser supported network.

So the freedom to say things now has increased. Um and I think a lot of the people that existed ten years ago weren't part of that system. So maybe if they were, maybe they would have had, you know, maybe they would have felt more comfortable.

I think they just came up at a time when there were sensors and everything you said, how to go through standards and practices and sales and advertising. And you know, you had to have all these, and you can still do really funny, great stuff with all that. But on the internet, kind of the wild less so you have more freedom now than you did.

IT feels a lot of freedom. IT feels like, yeah, we are saying kind of exactly what .

think right now.

I think. So how can that thread.

I think, is also, we all feel not to be cyp tic, but I do feel like not the world. You know, I want to do the whole like we're living in our last last thing. But IT does feel like times or too uh, like I feel we, you know, things are getting hot all over the world.

Yes, I think people realized the value now of being just let's get out with the like what people when they're dying, they are just kind of say what they yeah I think as our society is dying a little bit, people are saying what they need to say. Think the time for polite tss has gone out the window and nice IT is. And I think people are kind of embracing just the truth of what they have to say because we are living you know in times that that are certainly you know wild in parallel.

And you know, you're looking at russia, china and all these north korea. You're looking at problems in your own country and fit all of this at another thing. And it's like the idea, idea of amErica has kind of been shadow. And I think a lot of people are picking up the pieces of that, and they're likely that i'm going to live in this country and i'm going to exist in this time. I'm gonna speak and say what I .

want a way to look back in five years and see this is like this sort of brief for renison of free speech before the on slot of total terminals. M.

well.

hopefully not. Yeah, I mean, that does seem all of a sudden, like out of nowhere. And even in the past two months, yeah, there is for actual free speech.

Yeah, I don't I don't think I hope that that is in the case. I don't know why I don't have a Crystal ball.

but but how can you continue to run this country in the way that you are if you're the people are running IT and allow people to criticize you this precisely.

you have to make IT financially beneficial. Al, I mean, I think that's the whole thing, right? Like they are going to corrupt the methods of distribution to a degree that, you know, if we call them pedophiles, they'll make money from IT.

Wow, is that dark?

That's like they are not going to a get called pet falls for friend.

It's the darkest thing i've never heard. So the regular to shut down the speech are just going to monodist and monotoned .

the attacks to be a happy medium.

I'm going to stop there to give myself time to think about what .

you just thank you very much for haven't been, by the way, and thank you for dinner and everything I really appreciate.

I know you hate conference, but that was I was there was some profound wow.

that's further well, thank you.

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