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#2244 - Ryan Graves

2024/12/17
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Joe Rogan
美国知名播客主持人、UFC颜色评论员和喜剧演员,主持《The Joe Rogan Experience》播客。
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Ryan Graves
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Saxon Aerospace 的 CEO
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Ryan Graves: 根据与政府机构的沟通,目前没有证据表明不明飞行物正在追击丢失的核武器。不明飞行物事件至少持续三年,规模在近两年显著扩大,许多报告显示不明飞行物似乎来自海洋。这些飞行物飞行高度低,有时成群结队飞行,彼此靠近。目前尚不清楚不明飞行物是否正在发射能量。不明飞行物数量可能超过800到1000个。一些不明飞行物似乎能够进行急转弯,这与普通飞机的表现不同。不明飞行物能够进行高G机动,并长时间滞空,这表明它们拥有强大的动力系统。美国现有的法律法规在处理此类事件方面存在不足,政府在调查不明飞行物时面临法律限制,需要获得搜查令才能进行监听。政府机构在处理不明飞行物事件时,需要经过复杂的审批流程,这延缓了调查进度。他曾是美国海军F/A-18F战斗机飞行员,拥有丰富的飞行经验和对不明飞行物的独特见解。在升级雷达系统后,他开始频繁探测到不明飞行物,这些飞行物飞行方式奇特。他曾与不明飞行物发生过近距离接触,其中一次目击到一个“黑色立方体在透明球体内部”。不明飞行物的存在构成安全风险,政府应与公众进行沟通,分享相关信息。政府不愿公开信息,可能是因为他们自己也不清楚这些不明飞行物是什么。不明飞行物长时间滞空且不发出标准信号,这表明其技术水平可能远超现有技术。美国联邦航空管理局的规章制度阻碍了国内无人机技术的进步,导致中国在无人机技术方面领先。战争模式正在发生变化,小型无人机技术可能被用于未来战争。针对不明飞行物使用的电子战手段无效。他致力于通过非营利组织和私营部门的合作,推动对不明飞行物现象的研究。 Joe Rogan: 对丢失核弹头的说法表示担忧,并就相关信息与Ryan Graves进行探讨。就量子计算技术可能导致加密技术失效,引发金融市场混乱发表了自己的看法。量子计算机的计算能力远超现有技术,甚至可能证明多重宇宙的存在。如果更先进的国家将量子计算与人工智能结合,可能会对全球造成威胁。数据窃取事件可能比人们意识到的更为普遍。中国在量子计算和人工智能领域的进步,是美国政府重视不明飞行物现象的原因之一。美国在应对量子计算与人工智能等技术挑战时,面临着市场机制和政府监管的双重压力。中国在不明飞行物领域的投资,可能会对美国构成竞争压力。如何激励私营企业投资长期、高风险的深层技术研究,是一个挑战。关于中国在反重力技术方面的投资,存在一些不确定的传闻。一些曾被嘲笑的科技,例如反重力技术和冷聚变技术,如今正重新受到关注。一些物理学家认为,对不明飞行物现象的研究,可能是物理学停滞不前的原因之一。政府和军方掌握着不明飞行物的信息,但出于某种原因不愿公开。解决不明飞行物问题需要采取多方面措施,包括技术手段和法律手段。他认为政府可能隐瞒不明飞行物信息,以避免公众恐慌。除了核武器之外,政府可能还担心不明飞行物被用于窃取信息。 Saxon Aerospace 的 CEO: 他认为不明飞行物可能在寻找丢失的核弹头。

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Why are the fears about the drones looking for a missing nuke unfounded?

Government agencies responsible for weapons of mass destruction, such as the Department of Energy, have assured Ryan Graves that there is no loose nuke or WMD that the drones are pursuing. If there was, these agencies would be working nonstop to resolve the issue.

Why are the government and military not taking more decisive actions against the drones?

There are legal and operational challenges. Drones are primarily operating in Class G airspace, which is low and away from airports. The government needs a warrant to intercept these signals, and base commanders need permission from the Secretary of Defense to take action, which can be politically risky.

Why do the drones exhibit such unusual behavior and capabilities?

The drones are making sharp turns at low altitudes, operating in groups, and staying in the sky for extended periods without detectable heat signatures. This suggests they may have advanced, possibly autonomous technology that is not well understood.

Why is Ryan Graves uniquely qualified to discuss UAPs?

Ryan Graves is a former Navy pilot with extensive experience flying the F/A-18F Super Hornet. He has encountered UAPs firsthand and has interacted with various government organizations and experts on the topic.

Why is the government not telling the public about UAPs, if they know more?

The government might be withholding information due to national security concerns or the classification of the technology. However, if it's about advanced UAPs and not a military secret, the information should be shared with the public.

Why are the drone sightings happening now in such large numbers?

The sightings started around two years ago and have escalated, possibly due to advancements in technology or a strategic decision to test public reaction. The lack of a clear and coordinated government response adds to the mystery.

Why would China be a significant factor in the UAP conversation?

China is heavily investing in deep technologies, including quantum computing and advanced drone capabilities. They might be researching and developing technologies related to UAPs, putting pressure on the U.S. to either keep secrets or advance their own research.

Why is the government's approach to UAPs seen as a hard problem but not unsolvable?

There are existing technologies and methods that can be employed to detect and track UAPs. A public, unclassified scientific investigation with high-level support from the government could help resolve the issue and push the conversation forward.

Why is the idea of a highly advanced civilization visiting Earth plausible?

If an advanced civilization has developed technology far beyond our current capabilities, they might use sophisticated means to travel and communicate. The UAPs could be their way of monitoring us without direct interaction, similar to how we might send probes to other planets.

Why is the underwater civilization theory considered more outlandish than the alien theory?

The idea of an underwater civilization is harder to accept because it suggests we have coexisted with an advanced life form without knowing it. This would require significant changes in our understanding of biology and ocean exploration, making it seem more far-fetched than the alien hypothesis.

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This chapter explores the rumors of drones searching for a missing nuclear weapon. It examines the plausibility of this theory based on government sources and expert opinions, ultimately concluding that there is no evidence to support this claim.

Shownotes Transcript

Former Lt. U.S. Navy and F/A-18F pilot Ryan Graves was the first active duty pilot to publicly disclose regular sightings of Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon. Today, Graves serves as first Chair of the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics UAP Community of Interest, and is the Director of Business Development at Quantum Generative Materials. 

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