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Literally, what is going on right now? Well, Jimmy is off doing some shows on the road, and I'm filling in for him. Okay, I'm pretty sure he's not allowed to do that. I promise you he is. Well, okay, I'll look into it. I'll have someone in my office do some research. It seems like people who host shows aren't allowed to go off and then do a completely other job sometimes. It happens all the time. Yeah, okay. Well, I just don't like change.
It goes back to my childhood, but Hey, whatever, man, I like meeting new dudes. And now I know a new dude named Keaton fucking a right man. Well, good to meet you too, sir. What's on your mind. You know, I was going to call in and talk about something super smart with Jimmy. Like I usually do, but this whole maximum big surprise thing here made me totally forget what I was going to say. Oh, I hate when that happens. I know. Right.
Anyway, I guess I'll just freeball some stuff just kind of off the top of my head. Hey, have you been watching the Puff Daddy trial? I'm vaguely aware of it. Yes. God damn, dude. That fucker's going to super max.
I love everybody knew he was just doing this stuff too, like making albums and winning awards. Here he is one of the most dangerous and depraved people ever. Let's dance around his music. Yeah. Yeah. I'm glad I always thought that hip hop sucked.
A lot of people I knew like rap music because I grew up in a pretty heavily white trash situation. But I was always like, you got to be kidding me with this garbage. I feel vindicated. All my old friends are like, no, not puffy. Affects me like zero.
Gary Glitter, though, that one hurts. Okay. All right. I see that. Whatever. Not important. Hey, I keep telling Germany what to do. That's been fun. Oh, okay. Yeah, dude. A lot of Trump administration figures have become very vocal about German politics and Germans absolutely hate it, which is funny. So we just sort of keep doing it more, you know?
And what's the reasoning behind this? Well, Europe in general is being really dumb right now because not just Germany, but other countries have this thing where you can go to jail for Facebook posts and stuff. Like moms are going to prison in Britain because they had two Chardonnays and said something mean about immigrants. That's kind of insane to me. Like that's literally stupid, not in a comedy sketch way. That's,
genuinely a miscarriage of justice. Right, right. Any country that does that should be embarrassed. So because of that, some Republicans in the U.S. vocally supported the AFD. The German far-right party? Right. Alternative für Deutschland, which means alternative for Germany.
German is such a weird language because the first two words are almost totally correct. But then Deutschland is their word for Germany. Like that's way off, dude. Anyway. Yeah. They're like the far right party, but like they say they're alternative. So they're like radio head Nazis or something. Yeah.
Anyway, Elon Musk literally campaigned with them and the Germans went crazy. Like these guys are the new fascists and here's the richest dude in the world paddling around with them. Are they legit neo-Nazis? I don't know, man. Maybe, maybe not. It really doesn't matter to me. I'm just trying to make people mad, you know, that's kind of my job. So the German government is trying to like ban them, say they're a terrorist group or some shit. Okay. Yeah.
So then I say, no, I don't like Nazis either, but you have to debate on the stage of ideas. You can't silence people, which is an American idea that Europeans hate.
So the president of Germany was like, we believe in freedom and democracy in Europe. Those are our values while at the same time trying to make a political party illegal, which is like the irony of the century. Well, do you think maybe Europeans have this attitude towards quashing far right movements early on because of their history in the 1930s and 40s, the destruction that fascism brought down on them?
I guess maybe I never thought about it. Hey man, you see this puff daddy trial. We, we already discussed that Mr. Vice president. Oh my God. You're right. I'm so sorry. I'm still just so turned around and confused by you being a different dude.
I'm off my game. You're a cool man. You're a cool dude, but I'm just, I'm spent, man. I don't even know what I'm saying. I hope we can hang out sometimes, but I got to go. Keep it real, new homie. All right. Thank you, Mr. Vice President. Yeah.
Derrick Rose is an author, journalist, documentary filmmaker, and activist from Houston, Texas. He's written five books, including the latest How to Opt Out of the Technocratic State. His work focuses on practical steps individuals can take to reduce their dependence on technocracy.
the importance of building parallel systems, and the role of community in achieving long-term independence. His journalism can be found on the ConsciousResistance.com, The Mind Unleashed, MinnPret News, and The Last American Vagabond. Welcome to the show, Derek Brose. Hey, Derek.
Hey, thanks for having me on, Jimmy. I appreciate it. So I wanted to bring you on because there's been a lot of chatter about what's going on with Palantir, which we've covered Palantir in the past, which is a complete CIA cutout, but it's one of these tech information gathering organizations that put you in surveillance, right? So the Patriot Voice did a thread on this, and I'm just going to go through it. By the way, this is a huge admission for the
For the patriot voice to be saying all this, Trump has tapped Palantir to create an entire database of all American citizens. It brings me no pleasure at all to inform you that Donald Trump is achieved actively working with.
The very same deep state he claimed he would obliterate to create the largest surveillance database of Americans ever created. This plan is in lockstep with the U.N. Agenda 2030 goals and the W.E.F.'s fourth industrial revolution.
MAGA, if you are observing this from afar and holding on to any semblance of hope that Trump is who he said he was, sadly, it's time to wake up to the brutal realization. That's big for patriot voices. That's like Keith Olbermann admitting that Ellen is evil. That's a big deal. Trump is constructing the new world order. That's what Trump is doing. You thought you all voted for the opposite of that.
I thought you did too. Just as I unfortunately suspected, he has been over the past couple of months since his inauguration, and this news confirms that. First, you must understand who Palantir is and what they are doing. I'll give you an example. Palantir is the same company which can target any Palestinian in Gaza and make kill targets out of them at will for the IDF. That operation is a test run for what is coming to America using the exact same tech.
So whatever we do to people overseas, it's just a matter of time before we do it to ourselves at home. Trump has allowed the technocracy industrial complex in Silicon Valley to completely take over his administration with Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, Alex Karp, David Sachs and J.D. Vance at the helm.
So no matter what they may tell you, their vision is not one of America first freedom, but of self-recognized authoritarianism and our subservience to the state. Steve Bannon came on this show and warned about this called techno feudalism.
With the creation of the Golden Dome, many believe the lie that this will be to protect America from outside attack. Seriously, when was the last time a missile was launched at America? But the reality is that this dome is actually a true-to-form version of Skynet.
If you have seen the Terminator movies, you'll know what I'm talking about. Basically, it will be the world's largest surveillance dome. That's what Trump is building. It's not a missile defense system because those don't work anyway, but it's a surveillance system which those do work. It's run by AI, drones, biometrics, and Starlink satellites tracking your every move. So it's like China.
But it's here in the United States. And so just to let you know, so Palantir is like the Stasi, the KGB and the SS all put under one digital Skynet roof. It's like the it's like the target store of targeting any opposition. That's what it's like.
I have been warning of this for a while, despite many of who have attacked me. But the reality of this situation is that the Trump administration is working at warp speed to turn America into the same surveillance super state nightmare that is China. The writing is on the wall with the Palantir being officially tapped.
To not only make a database for the IRS, which we were totally lied to about being dismantled, but our own massive digital prison is being constructed right in front of our eyes. The data will be weaponized against us in the coming social credit beast system. So it's coming. Don't sit there and tell me that it's still better than Kamala because she was never going to win anyhow. Trump was selected.
For this time to fulfill this plan. And there is no Democrat that could have pulled this off without much resistance. But Trump is the perfect guy to pull this off because he quiets a lot of the natural opposition to this. Right. Just like when Barack Obama was president, it quieted all those people who were normally speaking out against his warmongering and his giveaways to the banks. Those people shut up because they didn't want to criticize Barack Obama. Donald Trump is the same thing.
So the people who would normally stand up to this kind of digital currency, this kind of surveillance state apparatus, they're now being quieted because of their support for Donald Trump.
It's time to face facts. Both parties are just as bad as Republicans see the Democrats. It's just different faces, disguises and personalities which are put in place by the same masters to fool us into thinking we have choice. Well, we don't. You have owners. They own you. George Carlin. That's exactly right. So let me bring in our guest. Tell me about.
how Palantir is expanding their surveillance. If you think the government will only use these tools to track illegal immigrants, think again. So tell me, how did this come about with Palantir? And they came there basically, they were not a company. And then the CIA took billions of dollars and gave it to Alex Karp and said, start a company. Isn't that basically what happened?
Yeah, Jimmy, that's very true. The beginnings of Palantir relating to CIA venture capital funding from Ancutel, which many of the big tech firms have received in the post 9-11 world. And absolutely, the creation of Palantir really comes from the end, the alleged end of the controversial U.S. government surveillance program known as Total Information Awareness.
And, you know, I want to say just as an aside, I'm so glad that a platform as big as yours and, you know, Patriot Voice, I don't really follow him, but others are ready to have this conversation about Palantir and Peter Thiel because my colleagues, Whitney Webb, Ryan Christian at the Last American Vagabond, James Corbett, who you've talked to.
And, you know, a few others I could name have been really trying to sound the alarm bells about this since before the election and telling people this was probably where things were going because we could see, you know, the ties with Palantir and Peter Thiel and J.D. Vance, et cetera. And as you said, they come straight from the
intelligence background, comes straight from CIA. And then not only that, just last year, we saw that Palantir, along with Musk's companies and OpenAI, Andrew and others, they actually formed a new pact where they're essentially trying to make themselves be the new, fresh, hip, young,
military industrial complex contractors. Like they're seeking to replace Boeing, Northrop Grumman and others, Raytheon and kind of make themselves the next generation of that. So for me, this shouldn't be too surprising. I get that a lot of people did put hope and faith and Trump would be better than the other side. But I also think your analysis and what you and Kurt were saying at the end of the last segment is 100% true. And what Patriot Voices was saying there, there is no political solution. Both of these parties are owned and managed by these people.
And I also think it's important for people to understand this isn't just a private surveillance firm, which is problematic on its own, but both Alex Karp and Peter Thiel are steering committee members of the Bilderberg Group, which is getting ready to meet next week in Switzerland. And for those who don't know or haven't heard of the Bilderberg Group over the years, they have been one of the most secretive kind of roundtable groups representing the true hidden ruling class. I wouldn't say they are the ruling class, but this is a private secretive meeting of...
heads of state, big executives, media people, bankers, finance, et cetera, that's been meeting since the 1950s. And they meet every May or June.
largely in secret. It's only the last decade or so that they put up a website and occasionally the Guardian, Charlie Skelton will report on it. But for the most part, the mainstream still ignores it. So you have this secretive group with Peter Thiel and Alex Karp, who have been attendees for a long time, but have become steering committee members, along with people like Eric Schmidt, who's the former CEO of Google, and other folks, other deep state actors who are the steering committee member of that group. They've found all these companies, including Palantir,
Through Peter Thiel's foundations, the Theo Fellowship and so many other organizations, he's influencing, he's got his tentacles everywhere. And I've written some articles over at the Last American Vagabond showing how many Peter Thiel acolytes are a part of Doge and have been a part of the Trump administration starting right away in January. And it's at least, I would say, 15 to 20 or more people in very important positions that have a connection to Palantir directly or to Peter Thiel and Alex Karp in one of their many different affiliated organizations.
Well, let's go over what's actually happening right now. So this is an article from Reason just the other day, and it says, when people complain about big tech, they tend to mean companies like Meta, Google, and Twitter, entities providing free tools and platforms that we can choose whether to use. Much less attention is directed at the tech companies helping to the federal government consolidate and analyze data on all of us, companies
companies like the data analytics firm Palantir, created by PayPal co-founder and Donald Trump supporter Peter Thiel. Palantir has a lot of people have taken cheap shots at me saying that somehow I work for Peter Thiel and that I don't criticize him when I've done so repeatedly. But I just want to throw that out. Palantir has long been connected to government surveillance. It was founded in part
With CIA money, it has served as an immigration and customs enforcement contractor since 2011, and it's been used for everything from local law enforcement to COVID-19 efforts. But the prominence of Palantir tools in federal agencies seem to be growing under President Trump. The company has received more than $113 million in federal government spending since Trump took office last
including additional funds from existing contracts as well as new contracts with the Department of Homeland Security and the Pentagon. That's according to The New York Times. And this, by the way, that figure does not include the almost billion dollars that contract that the Department of Defense awarded the company just last week.
Which, by the way, has not been spent. So Palantir's technology has largely been used by the military and the intelligence agencies, the immigration enforcers and the police. But its use could be expanding, you think? Representatives of Palantir are also speaking to at least two other agencies, the Social Security Administration...
and the Internal Revenue Service about buying its technology, according to six government officials and Palantir employees with knowledge of the discussion. Along with the Trump administration's efforts to share more data across federal agencies, this signals that Palantir's huge data analysis capabilities could wind up being wielded against all Americans. I think we could get rid of the could. This won't allow the authorities...
This won't allow the authorities to watch us more, so much as it helps them make use of all the data it's already got on us. But that's unsettling, too. The ultimate concern is a panoply.
Panopticon of a single federal database with everything the government knows about every single person in the country. What we are seeing is likely the first step in creating that centralized dossier on everyone in the country. So if you're worried about digital currency and you're worried about if you protested, would they debank you and shut down like they did to the truckers? Yes.
That's what that's what this is all about. Washington already has a ton of data on all of us, but it's often separated across systems and agencies by linking it all together. The government could create much more detailed profiles on all of us, more efficient, probably, but also more dangerous. Right now, Trump administration is using Palantir tools for immigration enforcement. Those tools could easily be applied to other administration targets, including immigration protesters.
pro-Palestinian protesters, and so on. Anybody who protested anything, a pipeline through your neighborhood, anything, they're going to use it against you and they'll call you a terrorist. And of course, a future Democratic administration could use them to track people for its own ends too.
Once we've got giant data troves on every American that can easily be analyzed and shared across agencies, it seems unlikely that any administration will say, no, thanks, shut it down. And we don't need total information on everybody. Perhaps when we worry about big tech, we should spend less time focused on what people can say on social media and more time focused on the companies actively helping to expand their surveillance state. So just to let you know,
uh palantir's database isn't like the others it's going to combine tax filings student debt social security bank accounts medical claims immigration status no previous database system has ever centralized this much personal info across various federal agencies and so this is the kind of stuff that you've been warning people about correct uh and and
and what what uh what do you think this you think people are going to wake up to this uh i don't know jimmy um well i want to say that tweet right there which is my buddy jason bassett over at the free thought project jason's 100 right and the reason article at the end is right that this is new in the sense that it's breaking down walls of agencies that have to some degree had separation at least that's what we've been told you know the cia's in their own world fbi's in their own world ncaa etc
Trump's executive order as the New York Times reported and as everybody's been picking up was about so-called streamlining and making these processes more efficient. And really this goes back to the post 9/11 world. This was right after 9/11, the sort of mainstream official story is that, well, because the different agencies weren't able to interact correctly, we missed some vital information and this allowed these alleged terrorist attacks to happen. I think many people out there now question that official narrative, but that same story is being used
in 2025 to say in order for us to more correctly track immigrants or violent gang members, et cetera, we need to have it set up so these systems are not siloed and separated. And for anybody who's been around for a little while or anybody who's still out there paying attention, I want you to go check out a 2006 documentary called From Freedom to Fascism. Aaron Russo, who is a Hollywood director, he made this documentary before his death. And way back then he was warning about the dangers of integrating these systems and they kind of have this silly
skit that they do where somebody calls in for pizza and the systems are all connected. And so the pizza person says, oh, we noticed Mr. Smith that you have your cholesterol is high. So if you get this extra large pizza with all the sausage and whatever, we're going to have to raise your insurance rates. And, you know, just all these different ways that the interconnectivity can not only be problematic for surveillance and privacy and liberty, obviously, but in all these other unseen ways that people might not be thinking about. And I really hope people are
Ready to start questioning this because you pointed out in the previous conversations about the different roles Palantir has been playing. I just wanted to make note of a couple others because they talked about the IRS, they talked about being used for
Immigration purposes, obviously. I wrote an article recently called Welcome to the Palantir World Order. And as I said a moment ago, Elon's Doge, they both, of course, come from the PayPal mafia. They've had a long relationship. Doge is filled with Peter Thiel acolytes, Palantir acolytes. The U.S. government is also working on overhauling all their federal payment systems through a Peter Thiel company.
a connected company called RAMP. And then Peter Thiel and his companies are also now investing in nuclear energy and through their connections with the Trump administration are trying to get the Department of Energy to start working on low enriched uranium, which is part of them trying to create new data centers, which is what's going to power all of this
digital technocratic surveillance state they're building because they need a lot of power to do it. So that's another thing they're getting involved with, nuclear energy, the IRS, as we mentioned. The other one is you were talking about, you guys were talking about the Golden Dome before. Of course, that is a Peter Thiel project through Palantir, but it's also partnered with Elon Musk's SpaceX that's helping do that Golden Dome. And I personally don't think anybody should be
blindly trusting or just trusting in general Peter Thiel, Alex Karp, and I would include Elon Musk despite anything he may be saying in the news lately because when you look at what's really going on, Elon Musk is also a military industrial contractor and his program under SpaceX, people know about SpaceX, they know about Starlink, the sort of public side of the internet, but the military side is called Starshield and we only learned about this in the last year. This is another $1.8 billion contract with
the geospatial agency which handles all the US satellites every time Elon does a little rocket launch and everybody cheers it on what they're also doing is they're working with the military and sending out classified payloads of satellites that are going all around the world and sure it's some of its going to Starlink for public internet use but I wrote an article while back talking about how the head of the geospatial agency he actually was quoted as saying you can't hide that once they finish this star shield program
all the bad guys, of course, it won't be used against good people and just regular folks like us, but all the bad guys will no longer be able to hide. So, I mean, really what I think is we're seeing this sort of unfolding of this PayPal mafia, which has been,
you know, not necessarily behind the scenes, but most people haven't been paying attention to them until the last couple of years, have been really working with intelligence agencies directly with the CIA and other intelligence agencies, and now directly with the military. And of course, now directly with the White House. This is unprecedented access. It doesn't mean that it just started with Trump, of course, or anything like that. But the way I see these things work is that one party does something and they pass the baton to the next one, like you were just
driving earlier with obama and with bush and that's just been this perpetual thing and i know people want to believe there's somebody coming to save the day i personally believe this has been a long psyop of making trump look like this anti-establishment here i also agree with what you said earlier i don't trust the butler assassination in any means at any way at all i think that was part of this to get people to say he was touched by the hand of god and yes now i gotta vote for him and you know mark zuckerberg and all the big tech guys come out and cheer for him
So I'm very skeptical of that and I don't think that's beyond the realm of possibility with everything that we know. I mean, we're talking about, you mentioned Epstein earlier, we could talk all day about all the various intelligence operations and just depravity that we know the US government and other governments have been
involved in. And I just personally don't understand how people can be deep in that research and then at the same time turn around and think that voting is going to fix the problem that we're facing. And I'm not saying we shouldn't try to do something, but I long ago have let go of the idea that voting and politics is going to fix this because they simply have
too much control over that system. And the intelligence agencies combined with the big tech companies, like if you go back to Cambridge Analytica and all the data that we saw they had access to, they are now able to just take our social media profiles, turn it into an algorithm and take the exact things that they know we want to hear that will feed right into our biases and just feed that back to us. And this is why many people are skeptical of
talking heads on the internet or whether it's Elon Musk or billionaires or whoever because we understand the sort of the true depth of this operation. We can't necessarily say, okay, this person is working for the CIA. People got suspicions or whatever and some of that's unhealthy. But my point is that people are overall, they're sick of these lies, I think, and they're really trying to find a way to get to real solutions. And I hope people will start to see that neither of the big parties are going to save us. I don't know if the political system will save us at all.
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So I wanted to show you this. This is Catherine Fitz. We've had her on the show before. And she was in the George Walker, George W. Bush administration. And ever since then, she's been kind of a truth teller. So I'm going to play this video of Catherine Austin Fitz and we'll get your response. And what it looks to me like Trump and and Musk are implementing the control grid at high speed.
What you have to say is, okay, to do a control grid, we need a digital ID implemented that's very high quality, high precise. Check the box. We need an all digital financial system. Check the box. You know, we need a way of doing interoperable money. Check the box. If you look at what Doge is doing, we need a social credit system. Check the box. Wait, what do you mean by that? What Doge is doing? Danny, they've been aggregating this kind of data. I used to call it the data beast.
So they've been aggregating this kind of powerful data since the 90s. So I don't think this is all new. So, for example, you... IRS data, healthcare data, and combining it all together into one system combined with AI. It's interesting because Musk was out raising capital for XAI and had a deal with Palantir AI at the same time. And my guess, you know, I think... Palantir has an AI? Yeah. Oh, I didn't even know that. Well, according to published reports, XAI and Palantir
had made a partnership and when Musk was sucking all this data out. And my guess is that data is, you know, they sucked it into the AI on the just do it method. So if I wanted to stop fraud in the US government, I would say there's 20 trillion missing from DoD, there's a trillion missing from HUD, I'm going to go in, figure out where it went, get it back.
Right. That's not what they did. If you said to me, I want to build a social credit system that can be used to enforce control against the American people and basically lock them down with both enforcement and social credit, I would go get the Social Security data, the IRS data and the Treasury payment data. And that's exactly what they did. So so Trump is actually building.
A control grid of like it's like he's a he's a robot right out of the W.E.F. or or China for that matter. It's the exact opposite of what MAGA thought they were voting for. Right. I mean, that is. Let me just get your response to what she said. That's happening. Right.
100% and Catherine Austin Fitz of Solari does great work. She's part of the Independent Media Alliance that myself and Whitney and Ryan formed. And Catherine has been ahead of this. In fact, that documentary I mentioned from 2006, Catherine was in it. She's been warning about this coming and she's been able to see this. And I will just point out too what she's describing there is it's important for people to understand that that deep relationship that
uh palantir and peter thiel and eon musk have i i know that there's this i'm just trying to crack through the illusion that people think elon is a hero i personally think that is another psyop that a lot of people are falling into and elon may have just played his role and then now he's stepping away what people need to understand is that doge the actual purpose of doge's captain was lying i was outlining there
is to make government more efficient, but not in the sense of make it more efficient to work better for people, but to make it a more technocratic government. And for those who don't really understand or know the history of technocracy, I'll just briefly just outline it. So you know what? Hang on. If you don't mind, Jim. I'm going to actually hold off one second on that because I'm going to show that short documentary that you put together, which is very... But just to kind of put a button on this Palantir thing,
segment of this uh of today's show it took just six weeks to go from ice partnering with palantir to track immigrants to the government partnering with palantir to track all americans that's
That's from Trump file dot org. And here's the guy who runs Palantir. We've showed him before. He's a true psychopath. He's the perfect guy that the CIA would pick to do this job. And read Cooley tweets out CIA agent and head of Palantir. Alex Karp says his company software single handedly stopped the far right in Europe. So let's listen to him say this.
Look, we built PG, which single handedly stopped the rise of the far right in Europe. We built Foundry, which was just used. So when he says they stopped. So what what he's saying is they stopped a populist political movement that was spurned on by open borders policies that was spurned on by by more war.
uh and nato uh so what he's saying is they're this cia guy which is what he is he their company couldn't have started or without the money from the cia the cia there wasn't a company the cia gave them billions of dollars and said go start doing this and they did it and so he's bragging that they actually squashed populist political movements and the way they do that cover for for doing that and talking about it publicly is they call it far right
Well, if there's anything more far right than funding literal Nazis, which is what the European Union is doing in Ukraine, that I don't know what it is, because that's what far right is. They're talking about people pushing back against open borders and people pushing back against censorship. That's not far right.
That used to be called unions activity in the United States and lefties. But they call it far right, just like they call me far right. So any time the establishment wants to discredit you or dismiss you, they call you far right. And that's what he's doing there. What he's really admitting to is that we, the CIA, use their technology to stop a pop
The same kind of populist political movement MAGA thought Donald Trump was going to be. And it turns out he was a wolf in sheep's clothing and it was a Trojan horse because now that Donald Trump is inside the beast, he's unleashing pukes like this on you.
And he's going to create a social credit system for you. He's going to create a digital ID for you and digital banking. And it's all going to be undone under one thing. And it's all going to be run by guys like this, not people you vote for. Donald Trump doesn't even understand how this works. So let's let's listen to what else he has to say. So you should distribute the covid vaccine and saved millions of lives. So they were involved in covid.
forcing people to take experimental medical treatments at the behest of the state, which is really the techno-feudal corporate state. We built what we call multi-constellation and what's often called the digital kill chain. And they're category-defining products. So when you deliver these products to the market, just honestly, people say, this isn't going to exist, this isn't valuable. But then it changes the market. And then the market is the Palantir market.
Now that doesn't mean everyone in the world is going to buy our product, but it means most of the sensible people in the world are going to buy from the category we defined. So what he's saying there is that you've heard this term, the Internet of Bodies, right? And so through the Internet of Bodies,
They're going to even know our thoughts. And this is very much like, you know, science fiction. I remember the minority report with Tom Cruise where they could predict that you were going to do a crime and then go arrest you.
That's what they're kind of talking about here. And so if you are a dissenter to the establishment or you are an opposition to the establishment, they're going to use this against you. They're even able to do pre-thought crimes. This is all using AI, right? And so here the Patriot Void tweets out, Palantir is literally the deepest part of the deep state and
And Trump is rolling out the red carpet for them to usher in what will certainly be the beast system, a cashless society in which you will be tracked and monitored every second of every day. And your behavior will dictate how you get to live in society. This is absolutely the great reset and build back better repackaged MAGA style. The biggest rug pull in history.
Would you agree with that, Derek, that this is the biggest rug pull in history? Absolutely. I mean, it's ironic to me, Jimmy, that just two, three, four, five years ago, some of the same people that were protesting as Klaus Schwab, the World Economic Forum, calling for many of the same things now that...
Palantir and Trump's tech buddies are doing. We're fighting it then, I think rightfully so, and we're being targeted for doing so. And now many places, I'm sure you and your audience are seeing the same things I'm seeing online. There's a lot of people making excuses. It's no big deal. We've had databases like this. Or even the QAnon sort of stories, I've seen people saying, no, Trump's actually working with Palantir because he's going to target the deep state, not the regular people. It's just used to target the deep state. So don't worry about it.
It's all very sad. And I think I see you have my book up there. I mean, if people want to learn more about solutions, I know we're going to play my little mini documentary moment, but I do want to encourage people. You can download my book for free at theconsciousresistance.com slash how to theconsciousresistance.com slash how to. There's a free audio book and a free PDF. I wrote it the month before COVID started because in my journalism, I focused on facial recognition, social credit scores, and
digital technology. And I started thinking like, how are we going to thrive and survive outside of what they're building? And so I put a lot of time and thought into that, but I didn't think it was going to happen so quickly. But nevertheless, I think people need to understand no matter who's president, the
True ruling class, what I call the predator class, they operate behind and above the political system and political parties. And so no matter which corporate party's in there, they will find a way to advance that agenda. And often they do so by presenting a hero, whether that's Bernie Sanders or Donald Trump or whoever it may be, they will continue. And I'm sure we'll see another one in the next couple of years. Some sort of grassroots hero will rise and promise they're going to fix and save us from Trump. And it'll just keep going back and forth until people are ready to see what's really going on.
And so how can, so that your book, How to Opt Out of the Technocratic State, how can people opt out? Can you give us a couple of ways to do that? I'm an extremist, I'll say that. I try to push very hard into this. I haven't used banks since 2008. I only have a passport. I'm not like a sovereign citizen or something like that. I simply just try to
I rethink and reevaluate my relationship with technology and different forms. So I opt out of the facial recognition at the airport as it's rolling out while we still can. I opt out of the TSA body scanners. I don't use Google. I don't use Microsoft. I'm on a Linux laptop right now, you know, things like that. So I try to take steps I can in my own individual life and encourage other people to do the same. I also don't use big banks. You know, I encourage people to use credit unions or to look into, you know,
any alternative. You know, I'm not going to tell you what to do. Maybe there's private Monero, you know, cryptos like Monero or gift economy or barter, whatever you're into. I think the point is that we should focus, I believe, focus our energy on building parallel alternative systems outside of what they're building. You know, even in that infamous essay and video that people saw back in 2020, the World Economic Forum, you will own nothing and be happy. If you go back and read the original article, which came out in 2016 and was published a
at the Wall Street Journal as well as the World Economic Forum's website, even in that dystopian description of the future where you have no privacy and no property and it's some alleged utopia, even in that description, the World Economic Forum says, "Sometimes I worry about the people we left behind, the people who now live outside of the cities in 18th and 19th century towns." And they kind of make it seem like we're living in poverty out there, but I believe even that is somewhat of an acknowledgement that there will be people who opt out of these systems and
live maybe outside that. I don't mean like we're living in some dystopia. I think it's possible through things like permaculture and using technology in a private way to start to lay the foundation for a path for humanity that doesn't involve being subsumed by this world they're building. But we have to work fast because very quickly as digital IDs are rolling out, which is already
happening and already advanced by COVID as facial recognition advances, social credit scores, things like this, it is going to become increasingly difficult to operate. Anybody who's already operating in the mainstream system without a credit score understands how difficult it is currently. But imagine when that's the social credit score you were describing, Jimmy, and you want to opt out of those systems
If there's nowhere to opt into or there's no alternative, then we're essentially screwed. There's nothing to do. And we end up like China where activists can have their WeChat, one app to rule them all, turned off if they try to organize anti-COVID protests. Or people can have their bank accounts turned off and things like that. We're already seeing the early version of that with Patreon, PayPal, and some of the banking, like you mentioned, the key.
Canadian truckers movement, but it's going to get much worse. And so I focus on how do we opt out and build alternative parallel systems, whether that's health, finance, education, food, all these different areas. One just real quick other example, if you don't like Monsanto, you don't like the big box stores, I'm sure there's a farmer's market somewhere near you. Go meet the people who are growing the food you like. Get to know the farmers. I'm not saying you need to become a farmer, but start to build those relationships so that you're not dependent on the
big box stores that tried to force you to wear masks or tried to make you take a PCR test to get in.
or whatever. I mean, I think it's really just so important at this moment for people to start thinking about these ideas. I tend to call this exit and build. We exit from unsustainable slavery systems, as I call them, that do not align with our values and our principles, and instead focus on building or supporting those who are building new systems that are aligned with our values. And personally, I don't think politics is going to fix it. I don't think violence is the answer. Apathy is definitely not the answer. So I really try to be proactive and
my own life and kind of lead by example. You mentioned I'm from Texas originally. I now live in Mexico. I decided to move like six years ago. We've got land, we're growing food and trying to spread these ideas to other people. And I know more and more people who took this idea during COVID and realized, you know what, I'm living in Seattle, for example, and Seattle is a total COVID hellhole. So I'm going to move to a smaller town or I'm going to move to
Texas or Florida. That's kind of the exit and build idea as well. It's about exiting from systems, but it can also mean exiting from a physical location. If you realize the place you're living in is not conducive to liberty and privacy and is going to be a bad place to be in the future, you might decide to move to the town over the state over or in my case, the country over.
whatever you do, I think the point is to start thinking about how we in our own hands, in our own lives and in our local communities can really get active. And I'll just throw out one other little tip that's in my book. If people want to learn more, if you're in a situation where you don't have anybody in your local area, I want to invite you to go to freedomcells.org as in the cells in your body, freedomcells.org. It's a simple place where people can
and use our maps and search and find like-minded groups and people in their area and connect in the real world to start talking about these ideas. So I encourage people to check that one out too. So Elon Musk is going scorched earth on Donald Trump and the Republicans because it turns out they were all lying when they were campaigning to you. It turns out it was a big lie. Doge was a big lie. I think Elon Musk feels used.
And because they didn't appreciate getting hit in the eye and he probably didn't appreciate getting punched in the eye by whatever deep state guy did that to him. So Trump was supposed to come in and blow up the deep state. And all he's doing is for fortifying it. That's exactly what's happening. And in case you don't know that, well, here's Elon Musk to let you know part of it.
They never went to the Pentagon. In fact, Donald Trump and the GOP are drastically increasing the Pentagon's budget. The place where there's more waste fraud. I mean, if there's a ground zero for waste fraud and abuse, it's the Pentagon. They never went to the Pentagon. They never did that. They promised to. Elon Musk promised to. He actually said he was going to do that. He said, oh, it sounds like a job for Doge. And they never did it. Now, I'm going to guess Elon Musk wasn't allowed to. Maybe. Maybe.
Maybe he didn't go. You could make a punch in your eye trying to go there. Yeah, maybe he didn't go there because he's also a defense contractor and he gets a ton of money from them, but from the Pentagon, and he didn't want to piss them off. Who knows? Here he is. He goes, I'm sorry, but I just can't stand it anymore. This massive, outrageous, pork-filled congressional spending bill is a disgusting abomination.
Wow. Wow. Shame on those who voted for it. Shame. He's saying shame on Donald Trump. He's saying shame on Speaker Johnson. He's saying shame on everybody except Thomas Massey. Well, he's the guy who's right. That's right.
You know you did wrong. You know it. That was June 3rd at 1031 a.m. And when Elon Musk goes scorched earth, he's one of the few guys that can actually scorch the earth. I'm just saying, watch when he's going to land a starship on your bedroom while you're sleeping. I like that everybody thought
Every dumbass Democrat I know thought that Elon was secretly in charge. Yeah. They didn't make any of those cuts that Doe said. But, you know, Bill Clinton and Al Gore, they bragged that they cut 240,000 jobs from the federal government when they were president. That was their big. Do you remember that? And the era of big government is over. And they bragged that they cut 240,000 jobs from.
from the federal government and so elon musk comes in identifies all this waste fraud and abuse and the republicans in congress won't even take a vote on cutting it they're not cutting it so they're just it's not waste at all but they're stealing it on purpose and there's not a mistake that's right it's not waste it's they're incompetent they have very definite ideas of what they do with it you just don't get to know right it's corruption on purpose
And so then Donald Trump just takes that money that was being dispersed through USAID and he gives it to Marco Rubio and the State Department to give out. So that's what's happening. Or they give it to the Pentagon. So here's another tweet by Elon Musk. He retweets him saying, I'm sorry, I just can't stand anymore. This is a disgusting abomination. And he says, it will massively increase the already gigantic budget deficit that
to 2.5 trillion and burden American citizens with crushing unsustainable debt. So what's going to, so, you know, how this affects regular people is that it will eventually create hyperinflation and crazy interest rates and nobody will be able to afford a house. Your kids won't be able to. Finally, they figured out a way. So, uh,
So Wall Street, Wall Street Mab tweets out our annual U.S. budget deficit is going to be over two trillion per year going forward. We pay over 100 billion per month just in interest on the national debt. That's one point two trillion a year, just in interest. That is about 25 percent of all government revenue going to pay interest in.
And Elon Musk tweets that out, and he says, interest payments already consume 25% of all government revenue. If the massive deficit spending continues, which it will, believe me, the deficit spending will continue until morale improves.
That is a twist on the old phrase, the beatings will continue until morale improves. That's what this is. If the massive deficit spending continues, there will only be money for interest payments and nothing else. No Social Security, no medical, no defense, no nothing.
So we printed the money and could somehow not have to go through it that way. If only he knows why we do that. No, nobody can answer why we borrow money when we print it as ourselves. No one can answer that. Joe, the head of Joe Biden's economic council couldn't answer it. Couldn't even really understand how our money system works. And he was the head of the question and he couldn't even understand the question.
So Elon Musk retweets this guy out. So he's talking about Geiger Capital, talks about, just to try to give you a perspective of how much money a billion and a trillion is. So he says a million seconds ago was May 23rd. Not that long ago, right? A million seconds. Well, how long was a billion seconds ago? A billion seconds ago was 1993. Right?
Wow. It's kind of like that joke I say, what's the difference between a million dollars and a billion dollars? About a billion dollars. And so what's the difference between a billion and a trillion? Well, a trillion seconds ago was 30,000 BC. So that gives you the idea of what a difference between a million, a billion, and a trillion is. So we're now, the US national debt is now growing by a trillion dollars every six months.
Every six months, it grows by a trillion dollars, which if those were seconds, it would be 30,000 B.C.
Just to let you know. So he retweets that and he says the immense level of overspending will drive America into debt slavery. Do you want to say so? Can I show you? This is the head of the Fed. What's his name? Anyway. Jerome Powell. This is Powell. Watch what he says. The U.S. is on an unsustainable fiscal path. The U.S. federal government is on an unsustainable fiscal path. And that just means that the debt is growing faster than the economy. I have the sense this worries you very much.
Over the long run, of course it does. Effectively, we're borrowing from future generations. It's time for us to get back to putting a priority on fiscal sustainability. And sooner is better than later.
And the thing that's a big boner here is that Trump decided to and the GOP decided to go ahead and cut health care, medical benefits, Medicaid to working people and poor people and cut food stamps, you know, by hundreds of billions of dollars, not not touching the Pentagon. The thing that everybody wants cut.
And they're still not reducing the deficit. They're still exploding the deficit by an extra $2 trillion. And it's probably an extra $5 trillion, probably more than that. So they went and screwed you. So they gave you all the pain and you get none of the benefits.
Yeah, well, Jimmy, Bernie Madoff couldn't ever stop his scam. He literally, if he wanted to put a stop to it, he never could. Right. So they're going to have the whole, hey, this is going to drive American death slavery. That must be our ultimate goal because Jerome Powell, the guy from the Fed, was telling them this. So how, what is it, they don't know? It's just for me to worry about, not the people. Right. People there, they want it to happen. There's no other explanation because this is a thing I've heard about my whole life.
So he also tweets this out. So not Jerome Powell tweeted out. This is not Apple or Tesla or even NVIDIA. This is the U.S. national debt. And look how it just goes. And we're past. We're up to thirty six trillion on our way to thirty seven trillion. And look how it just ballooned.
since 2000 just bam and pentagon can't pass an audit and the pentagon will not pass an also basically people are going to be setting their own teslas on fire just to stay warm this winter uh yeah see how the timeline coincides with katherine austin fitch explaining how we had trillions of dollars stolen yes since this roughly she said 97 but it's roughly you look at the spikes
So here's another tweet from Elon Musk. The rabbit hole said it took over 200 years for the United States debt to reach 12 trillion. 12 trillion is now how much we added in four years between 2020 and 2024. So we are adding as much debt in four years as it took us to add in 200 years. And Elon Reese tweets that.
and says America is in the fast lane to debt slavery. And again, here's one of these nice charts. So there's with the start of the United States, and then boom. So that's what we're living through right now. Yeah. Well, you know what they're doing. Because your government is completely captured by corporations and billionaires, and you don't live in a democracy. This is not what a democracy looks like. This is what oligarchs...
who are pillaging the treasury. They're hollowing out the country. That's what they do. That's what mafias do. We live in a mafia state, just like in Goodfellas. When they took over that restaurant, they'd put the booze and the food in the front door. They'd take it out the back door, resell it, put that money in their pocket. And then when the
restaurant went belly up, they just burned it down for the insurance. And that's exactly what they're doing to our country. They're not investing in our country. They're not investing in you. They're sucking the money out. They're taking it from your health care. They're taking it from your education. They're taking it from your food stamps. They're taking it from your road conditions.
construction, your school, they're taking it from everything they shouldn't be and they're putting it in the hands of a handful of millionaires and billionaires who actually run the country and run the whole entire Western world. People like Klaus Schwab, people like the international banker who now is Carney who's running Canada. That's who act, Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos, those are the people who actually run things. Mark Andreessen, those are the people who run things. Don't forget. What?
because they're building all those bunkers, all those people. And they're building, so what Kurt's talking about is they're building underground bunkers. They're spending trillions of dollars building underground bunkers. And what, go ahead, say it. All those billionaires, like all the tech people have built, what's his name? The one from Facebook, the robot boy. Yeah, Mark Zuckerberg.
Yeah, and it's not a secret why. They say it out loud at their tech. You watch these tech speeches. They're insane. But it's because when – see, they're just going to run out the clock until AGI comes out, artificial general intelligence, the thing that's going to come out any minute now, because that's going to eliminate the white-collar jobs. And the guy literally said at this convention there's going to be a lot of civil unrest when that happens. Yeah. And that's why we have bunkers. So they're running the debt up.
As soon as AGI comes out, all the laptop liberal dipshits out there, your jobs are gone. That's when, if you recall the Soviet Union, they united people that worked at all levels because they were mad. They've anticipated this. So you're going to be in the fire and they're going to have bunkers until it clears up. And then they don't need you anymore when you're dead because they got AGI.
And so here's Elon Musk's final tweet that I got right before I came on air. Kill Bill. He tweeted that out, which means kill the bill. This budget bill. Oh, I thought it was Bill Gates. I was like, that's a little bit too much. It was Bill Gates. So, and of course, the way people have reacted to this,
It is sadly predictable. So this person, Shu-Hui Travel or whoever this person is, why are you stirring posts like this? Why are you stirring pots like this? Which side are you on?
Is that an Israeli? We are confused who to follow. So you see that's all about team sports. Which side are you on? How about Elon Musk should be on the side of the American people, just like Thomas Massey is on the side of the American people.
That's that's that's the side you're supposed to be on. Not Democrat, not Republican, not which billionaires control the Democrats, not which billionaires control the Republicans. You're supposed to be on the side of the American people and trying to get a hold on our fiscal sovereignty, which we are lose. It's gone. So this isn't going to end. And but so meaning the money printing and the spending and the borrowing and the debt.
And so what does that lead to? That leads to hyperinflation and high interest rates. So people who have money saved, it's worthless and people won't be able to buy houses. So that's what this is leading to. And it's coming faster than you think, I think.
And that's why people like when Steve Bannon came on the show, he was talking about we have to do this to save our civilization. We have to do this to save our country. And people are willing to take hurt. I think people would take the hurt of cutting Medicaid or cutting food stamps. I think people would even be willing to cut other things, right?
if you were actually cutting the debt and deficit and it was going down instead of exploding, and if you were sharing the pain of that, if it wasn't just for people who relied on Medicaid and food stamps and Medicare and Social Security, if it wasn't just for those people who had to take the brunt of it, but it also got spread out to the billionaire class. Well, Trump's doing the exact opposite. He's making the tax cuts for those billionaires permanent.
So the exact opposite of what everyone who voted for Trump thought they were voting for is happening. And you get people like this who this is what's wrong with the country, that whoever this person is, this the Shua travel.
Get back in your pen. Yeah. As soon as someone's doing that, that's some manipulator class. Yeah. That's immediately suspect because I just looked up this person's Twitter right now and they're talking about how we're spending too much and the deficit and blah, blah, blah. Yeah. So that's like not a good actor, whoever the hell that is. Right. So pick a team. Our friend Blakely asked Grok to explain why this one big beautiful bill is going to explode the debt and how it's going to hurt working people. Well,
Well, you know what? I'm going to save that for another segment. So there is Elon Musk crushing it. I mean, crushing the GOP and Donald Trump's big, beautiful bill. And again, I'm no fan of Elon Musk's. I don't have a rational hatred for him either.
I haven't picked a billionaire myself that I like or hate. I don't give a rat's ass. All we learned from this is no, Elon was not in charge, idiots. And guess who else isn't in charge? Trump, apparently. Yeah, Trump is not. Yeah, so Trump is not actually in charge. And Elon Musk was never in charge because that's why he's doing this. Because if he was in charge, he would have implemented some of the cuts from Doge. He couldn't. And guess what? They're not implemented. Not only true.
None of that money that he found is being cut from the budget. Did you know that? So they first said they were going to cut $2 trillion. And then it came down all the way down to like $160 billion. And people are like, well, we'll take what we can get. And they're not even cutting that. You'll get nothing like it. That's what you'll get. Yeah, and you'll get nothing like it. No.
So you'll get nothing and like it. You'll get no cuts and you'll like it. And Elon Musk's, you know, trashed his reputation with half the country by doing this. And he got nothing out of it. It didn't it didn't do anything. It didn't work.
except his reputation certainly got trashed with half the country. His staff didn't like him already. The people didn't like him already. And his Tesla stock, well, his Tesla stock crashed. It wasn't crashing. His Democrats used to buy him. It wasn't crashing before he teamed up with MAGA. It only crashed after he teamed up with MAGA. And so it was all for nothing. It was all for nothing. So Donald Trump and the Republicans...
Turns out they're going to cut taxes for the billionaires and screw everybody else. Who saw that coming? Peter Thiel when he made J.D. Vance in a lab. I'm sorry, he made him fat in a lab. I didn't say he created it. Then, yeah, Thiel and that other scumbag from Palantir. All those tech people. That's who's running stuff. Hey, become a premium member. Go to JimmyDoreComedy.com. Sign up. It's the most affordable premium program in the business. Freak out. Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't.
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