What Happened to Holly Bobo?: The Appeal
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Hi, I'm Debra Roberts, here with another weekly episode of What Happened to Holly Bobo? Remember, you can get new episodes early if you follow What Happened to Holly Bobo on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app. Now, here's the episode. Newport Beach, California sits just south of Los Angeles. It's 2012, and the owner of a marijuana dispensary has been kidnapped, tortured, and left for dead in the Mojave Desert.

It began a decade-long game of cat and mouse between investigators and a perpetrator, a mastermind of escape. He's a psychopath. Oh my God, they let Hannibal Lecter out? Devil in the Desert, coming June 17th.

In April 2024, my producers and I were in Tennessee conducting interviews for a 2020 episode on the Holly Bobo case. We'd spoken to so many people whose lives had been affected by this story, but there was one person we hadn't talked to yet. Zach Adams, the man convicted of murdering Holly Bobo, was now in the Morgan County Correctional Complex in East Tennessee.

Zach claimed he was innocent and was trying to appeal his conviction. While we were in Tennessee, we arranged a call with Zach. This would be his first ever interview since his conviction seven years ago. Remember, he didn't testify at his own trial, so this would be the first time we'd hear from him.

My team and I were wrapping up an interview in a nearby town. We were expecting Zach to call us from prison at 12:30, so we were caught off guard when the phone rang a little early.

The producers and crew rushed to get the cameras in position. Hello, this is a prepaid call from an inmate at the Tennessee Department of Corrections. Hello. Hey, Zach, this is Eva. How are you doing? I'm good. I guess we should probably just kind of start at the beginning.

There were many tough questions I needed to ask Zach, but with him in prison, the call would have to be short. So I made sure to ask him about the morning of Holly's abduction on April 13th, 2011. I wanted to know his version of what happened that day.

Here's what he told me. After waking up, he spoke to his girlfriend a couple of times on the phone. He says they'd been arguing since the day before, though she would later testify that while she had tried to break up with him earlier in the week, they were together the evening before the abduction and she'd stayed the night.

Zach says that in the morning, his friend Shane Austin called him asking if he wanted to go out and try to buy some drugs. Zach didn't have a car, so he went to ask his brother Dylan if they could use his truck. He says he and Dylan then picked up Shane. They stopped at an ATM to get cash and then a gas station. While Zach was pumping gas, Shane went in to pay.

And while he's in there, I guess that's when he hears that somebody has been kidnapped or abducted. So at this point, we don't know who. All I know is we're fixing to get drugs and I need to get us back to our home area and be as safe as I can. Because, you know, in my mind, I'm thinking somebody's really messed up.

Zach says after about two or three days, the police showed up at his door. And I remember I was coming out of morphine. I was real, real sick. And I'll never forget, I was in red coats.

because it had been raining. And it was in these wet, red, like raincoats. So they come out to my house and they looked everywhere anybody could be, looked underneath the house. And they asked me if I had camouflage. I said, of course I got camouflage. I used to hunt all the time. I've got all kinds of camouflage. And so I showed them all of my camouflage and stuff. And they took their notes and then left. I think they might have left their car. Hmm.

Remember, Holly's brother Clint said the man who took Holly was wearing camouflage. But Zach says it wasn't him. In fact, he says he's been convicted of murdering someone he's never even met.

-Did you know Holly Bobo before this? -I have to ask you, did you kill Holly Bobo? -Absolutely not. -Did you rape Holly Bobo? -Absolutely not.

Do you know anything about what happened to Holly Bobo? Absolutely not. If I did, I would have already told anything I knew. Zach Adams is currently serving a life sentence without parole plus 50 years. But now he has a new legal team who says they have newly discovered evidence they believe supports his effort to challenge his conviction. Is Zach Adams' fate about to change?

I'm ABC News Senior National Correspondent Eva Pilgrim. From ABC Audio and 2020, this is What Happened to Holly Bobo? Episode 6, The Appeal. What do you say to all those people who think you're guilty? Where's the evidence to support my guilt? Zach spent much of our conversation trying to point out what he says are flaws in the case against him.

One of Zach's main points of contention is that he simply does not fit the description of the man Clint Bobo says took his sister into the woods. And neither does his brother Dylan, who took an Alford plea, or Jason Autry, who served time for his role in Holly's abduction, or Shane Austin, who had red hair. He said the person was what?

Five foot what? Five foot nine, 200 pounds? Who kidnapped her then? It wasn't Jason Autry. He's six foot six. Couldn't have been me. I was six foot three, 125 pounds. My brother's six foot two, 125 pounds. The person in the abduction room wasn't one of us. I mean, he didn't match the description of any of us.

But prosecutors did present evidence at Zach's trial, including testimony from several witnesses who recounted hearing Zach say incriminating things. He said, I'll kill you like I did Holly Bobo. He made the comment, I couldn't have picked a prettier b****.

He just had a couple of his friends, you know, they got drunk and they went into the woods with this girl. And then he was like, you know, I was there for the worst of it. And I was like, well, did you do it? And he was like, I was there for the worst of it. During our phone call, I asked Zach about those incriminating witness statements. Did you say those things? A normal person don't leave in the drug world like I did. My life used to revolve around drugs and selling drugs and stuff.

Zach told me when he was selling drugs, he wanted to make sure people were afraid of him. That way, they wouldn't stiff him on what they owed him. So I said things that I shouldn't have said, but I never directly said, I did this to Holly or I did that to Zach.

I also asked him about his brother, Dylan, whose interviews with authorities led TBI to arrest Zach for Holly's disappearance. Remember, in episode four, we heard the tape of Dylan's confession to TBI, where he said he took part in Holly Bobo's rape, along with his brother Zach. At the point that you found out that your brother had confessed...

Were you surprised? Yes. I didn't understand, confess to what? He was with me that day. Confess to what? I was very shocked.

He's lying. That's the first thing I thought. He's a liar. He's lying. My brother, he just wants everybody to like him. He's non-confrontational. He'll lie to you about little small stuff that don't even matter. But other than that, he's a good person. He just wants people to like him.

As Zach told me, he didn't think his brother Dylan or his friend Shane were involved. He says they were together all day. But he went even further. Remember, another friend of Zach's, Jason Autry, went on to testify against him. He was a crucial witness at trial. But Zach says he doesn't think Jason was involved at all.

Why do you think you guys became suspects in this case? We didn't have a hard alibi. And we was local, you know, drug users and stuff. And what would it matter putting us away? I felt like they had to arrest somebody, even if it was the wrong person, which it was.

When I interviewed Zach, he had already appealed twice and been denied. Now, he had begun trying a third appeal. In January 2024, the Hardin County Court received a petition from Zach's lawyers asking for a new trial for Zach. The petition claimed that the defense had new evidence, including a video recording of one of the witnesses who testified at Zach's trial.

boom, the gun sounded. The gun went off. And it sounded like boom, boom, boom. Remember, at the time of Holly's abduction, Jason Autry was a friend of Zach's, someone he used to do drugs with. Jason claimed at trial he'd witnessed Zach shooting Holly. It was just one shot, but it echoed underneath that bridge all the way down that damn river bottom. And when that gun went off,

Birds went everywhere, just all up under that bridge. And it was just dead silence for just a second. Jason testified that Zach asked him the morning of Holly's abduction to help bury a body. He says he then drove with Zach to a spot under the bridge at the Tennessee River, helped him move the body, and then served as lookout as Zach shot Holly.

Then Jason said Zach dropped Jason off at his car. He also said Zach later told him that he, Dylan, and Shane Austin had kidnapped and raped Holly and that Zach had disposed of her body. But now the defense said someone on behalf of the defense team had interviewed Jason Autry and he was claiming something new.

My name is Jason Audrey. Can we just start at the very beginning of when... The video was recorded in December 2023, and it was filmed by a woman named Katie Spierko. She's a neuropsychologist who's currently working for Zach Adams, but at the time was working for Zach Adams' defense team. Katie Spierko provided 2020 with the recording.

I want to know your whole experience. How did it get from you being arrested for this to you being on the stand and telling this crazy story? That's a long ways. Yeah. That's a lot. Yeah, we got until one. In September 2020, Jason Autry pleaded guilty to solicitation to commit murder and facilitation of especially aggravated kidnapping in Holly's case. And with credit for time served, he was set free.

But just a few months later, he was once again back in prison after pleading guilty to an unrelated federal gun charge. He was still in jail when Spierko began working on this case. She went to speak with Jason. In the video, Jason discusses the events leading up to his decision to testify in Zach Adams' trial.

He says that originally he had intended to fight the charges and go to trial. But when he spoke to his attorney, he got an answer he wasn't expecting. So all of this in the beginning was just a routine question. He said, I got you by 95% chance you spend the rest of your time right away. You know, I need to know what they want. What do they want from me? I want you to testify.

Straight up about it. They need someone to understand. I said, well, what if I say all I seen was just a body, you know, laying in the back of the truck? That's not another good job. We spoke to Katie Spierko in 2024 about the video. What does he tell you? Tells me he made the whole thing up. Took the phone records and the case file to craft a story that fits in with the evidence that exists and cannot be changed. Why would someone admit to killing someone

if they didn't do it? He's sitting in jail for years. He's being told that Zach's going to be telling a story against him, and basically it's this or the death penalty. And so under that amount of pressure, I think a lot of people would have folded the way he did.

In his petition to the court, the defense claimed the video would, quote, exonerate and exculpate the defendant from any guilt in this case. But prosecutors responded by saying that Jason's statements in the video were unsworn, not given under oath, and not subject to cross-examination.

They said that Jason Autry's credibility was thoroughly impeached during Zach Adams' trial and that the jury who convicted Zach Adams was aware of inconsistencies in Jason's testimony and had heard him acknowledge that he agreed to testify for the state in hopes of receiving favorable treatment in a separate criminal case.

For these reasons, prosecutors argued that Jason's statements did not amount to newly discovered evidence. Prosecutors added that Jason's testimony was just one piece of the state's substantial proof of Zach Adams' guilt. Shortly after watching the video Spirko provided, one of our producers spoke to Jason Autry. You recanted your testimony in the Holly Bobo case.

Is that true? - Yes, that's true. - In a court filing, the defense referenced the video recording by Katie Spierko in which Jason Autry alleged, quote, "He was very well trained by ADA Jennifer Nichols, who he referred to as the boss of it all." - You're an engaging witness. - Well, I was trained.

In response, prosecutors denied that claim. Zach Adams' defense team has also claimed that their video interview with Jason provided new information to show that Zach's constitutional rights to due process were violated by the state's prosecution of him.

Prosecutors denied these rights were violated and argued that the claim should have been raised at trial. I'm curious, you know, why now? Why are you recanting now? And do you have anything to gain from it? I don't think there's really nothing to gain from it. I think it's all to lose, really.

What do you think of the fact that Jason recanted his confession? I'm glad. I'm glad he's telling the truth. It's about time. I wish he would have never lied in the first place.

We reached out to Jennifer Nichols, the prosecutor in the Zach Adams trial, about Jason Autry's allegation against her. We didn't hear back, but 2020 had reached out to Nichols in 2024 prior to its episode about the Holly Bobo case. In a statement then, Nichols denied the allegation, telling us that it is a false statement. She says the only guidance ever given to Jason Autry was to tell the truth. There was no training.

In 2024, she also declined 2020's request for an interview, but did send a statement that says, in part, at trial, we presented proof through 62 witnesses and 250 exhibits. The jurors heard testimony of Zachary Adams' confessions to multiple and unrelated individuals. I remain confident in the jury's verdicts of Zachary Adams' guilt.

In September 2024, a judge noted that in the video, Jason Autry did not provide Zach with a clear alibi and that Jason's testimony was not the only evidence of Zach's guilt.

The judge ruled that, quote, false testimony does not equate to actual innocence here and granted the state's motion to dismiss Zach Adams' petition. Nevertheless, the defense has continued to try and argue that Zach should get a new trial.

And in May of 2025, the defense finally had an opportunity to make its case in open court. Eight years after his conviction, would the man convicted of Holly Bobo's rape, kidnapping, and murder be granted a new trial? ♪♪

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The NBA Finals, presented by YouTube TV, continue on ABC. In May of 2025, Zach Adams' defense team tried once again to get a new trial. A series of hearings were held in Hardin County, Tennessee, before Judge Brent Bradbury, the same judge who had previously ruled against the defense's attempt to introduce the Jason Autry video into evidence.

On day one of the hearing, the prosecution and defense discussed the video that Katie Spierko had filmed of Jason Autry recanting his 2017 trial testimony. Remember, in a case where there was no DNA evidence linking Zach to the crime, Jason's 2017 testimony was significant.

The trial judge at the time called it, quote, some of the most credible persuasive testimony I've ever heard. For this new hearing, Zach's defense team tried to call Jason back to the stand. But through a lawyer, Jason exercised his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination. And when the defense tried to subpoena him, the Federal Bureau of Prisons declined to transport him.

That made Jason an unavailable witness. In lieu of Jason physically coming to court, the defense asked the judge to consider the videotaped interview admissible. Prosecutor Amy Weinreich argued that the video was recorded for revenge. This isn't a recantation. It couldn't be further from the truth. This is a publicity stunt.

The prosecutor argued that the state had information that the reason Jason Autry had filmed the video with Katie Spierko was to seek revenge against the authorities. She referenced a recorded jail call between Jason and his mother in February 2024, where Jason is heard saying. They're effing with me in federal court. I'm gonna eff with them in state court.

In addition, the state also argued that the videotaped interview was hearsay because Jason was not in court to be questioned about it. But Zach's attorney, Doug Bates, countered that there's an exception to the hearsay rule, which is that because the videotaped interview wasn't made in Jason's own interest, it should be admissible.

The judge ruled that the Jason Autry video was hearsay and that the exception to the rule did not apply. He pointed out that the statement was not made under oath, that it was, quote, predominantly self-serving, and that Jason's actions since then, such as pleading the fifth, do not align with the, quote, free-flowing nature of the conversation he had with Katie Spierko.

The defense said it would appeal the ruling, but it meant they'd have to proceed with this hearing without a key element of their case. The defense detailed its other evidence, including surveillance footage from the morning Holly Bobo was abducted on April 13th, 2011.

The video shows a truck pulling up outside a BP gas station in front of an ATM at 11.12 a.m. The defense says Zach was in that truck and that it was his brother Dylan's Silverado.

We should point out that while Zach told us in an interview that he'd been pumping gas that morning and that Shane had gone in to pay, the defense did not introduce video of either of those events. But the defense says the video showing this truck outside the gas station at 11, 12 a.m. is important because in 2017, Jason Autry had testified that around that time,

He and Zach were in Zach's car with Holly's body in the trunk, driving along the back roads of Parsons, Tennessee. Bates argues that the video means the prosecution's timeline is impossible. Bates pointed out that the defense tested their theory by hiring someone to drive the route in the timeframe Jason testified about. - It is impossible. Now let that sink in, Your Honor.

This timeline is impossible. But the prosecutor, Amy Weinreich, struck back. She said there is no smoking gun and that the route was explained to the jury at the 2017 trial and that they still found Zach guilty.

The defense called a number of TBI agents to the stand, including Mark Lewis, who worked on the Bobo case, to ask about that ATM video. Okay, do you remember a conversation at any time where anyone in TBI said, I have a question, if they're so worried about getting rid of a body during this same time frame, why are they at Sonic? And why are they at ATM? Why are they at

VP? Specifically, I don't recall. It's possible that we had those conversations. You don't remember that conversation? No, no. But prosecutors argued that the ATM footage of the car did not prove Zach's whereabouts, suggesting authorities ultimately determined that the footage did not have any value in the investigation. Here's Amy Weinreich cross-examining another TBI agent, Brent Booth.

You've seen the video. Did it have any value? Does it today? No. Can you tell whether it is human or canine in the front of that truck? That's what I said. There's no way of knowing who's in that truck or what's in that truck. Are you convinced it's a Silverado? No. However, the defense called a witness who testified that he did know who was in that truck.

Dylan Adams, your honor. Dylan Adams. Dylan Adams, Zach's brother, took the stand. It was the first time he had seen his brother, Zach, in over a decade. Zach was sobbing. Dylan had accepted an Alford plea and was serving 35 years for his role in Holly Bobo's murder. But during the hearing, he said he was innocent.

In the hearing, Dylan was shown the surveillance video and testified that the truck in the ATM video was his and that he was in the truck that morning with his brother, Zach, and their friend, Shane Austin. Then the defense showed Dylan a photo of

A surveillance picture from inside the BP gas station store later that morning. Mr. Ives, do you recognize the individual in this store? The defense also played some of the tape you heard in episode four, in which Dylan confessed to TBI agents that he, Zach, and Jason Autry had raped Holly.

That's when the mood of the court seemed to shift. When the defense said it would play the video of Dylan's TBI interview, the prosecutor argued that she wasn't sure what the purpose of this was and that this was hearsay. But the judge overruled the objection saying, quote, I'm going to see this video.

Even though the defense only played a portion of it in court, the judge assured them he would watch the several hours long video in its entirety on his own. - What were they saying? - We're thinking we'll get her later on tonight. That's what they said. - Her, define her. - I mean, this is what they said, her. - They didn't say Holly's name, they said her, okay?

After playing a few minutes of the taped TBI interview, Doug Bates asked Dylan about the circumstances leading up to it, including Dylan's release from federal prison the previous month into the custody of a former Memphis police officer named Dennis Benjamin. Who's Dennis Benjamin? Just somebody they knew right on. I never made him tell after I got sentenced in my federal trial. Who's they? TBI.

Remember, we mentioned in episode four, it was federal prosecutors handling Dylan's gun charges who arranged to have him released into the custody of Dennis Benjamin. Dylan says he did not know Dennis Benjamin, but that he was told he would live with him for his protection. Did you feel you needed protection? No, sir.

Dylan testified that Dennis Benjamin would hound him every day with questions about the Holly Bobo case. And you told him what? I said rape and abduction of Holly Bobo. That was a lie. I used to get him off my back. Dennis Benjamin was also on the defense witness list, but was not called to testify. When we reached out to him previously, he said he couldn't speak to us because of the ongoing litigation.

During cross-examination, the prosecution didn't directly challenge Dillon on his claim that he lied to Dennis Benjamin, nor did they press him on the photo he says was of him at the BP gas station the morning Holly was kidnapped. But they did try to contextualize Dillon's relationship with Benjamin. The prosecutor showed Dillon a letter the state says he wrote to Benjamin after staying with him at his home.

Do you recognize that writing? No, ma'am, I do not. Sir? No, ma'am. I didn't write it. I know my writing. I can't spell it good, so that's not mine. OK. All right. You don't remember telling the Benjamins how much you miss them? Nope. How much you enjoyed living with them? Nope.

The prosecutors also brought up various interviews Dylan had with TBI before he went to live with Dennis Benjamin. Remember, it was during this time period that investigators spoke with Dylan at least six times over eight months. And he seemed to implicate his brother and Jason Autry in the kidnapping and murder of Holly Bobo.

The judge appeared to take an interest in those and asked prosecutors for more details about what exactly Dylan said in those earlier unrecorded TBI interviews. The statement that's been talked about was made

In September of 2014. So the statement that they're talking about is not the statement that the court has seen this morning? Correct. It's another statement. Yes, sir. The judge looked at the prosecutor. Is the court going to see that statement? Yes. Okay. We asked the circuit court whether the judge has received that statement and whether it will be made public but haven't heard back.

At the hearing, the prosecutors also played Dylan's recorded calls with his mom, Cindy, which took place around the time of some of those TBI interviews. The phone calls demonstrate how Dylan's story to his mother changed over time and ultimately came to match the story he told TBI.

In the early calls, Cindy Adams, his mother, begs him to not speak to TBI any further without a lawyer. You know what? I told you don't say nothing. And I told you not to talk without a lawyer.

In a later call, Dylan's story to his mother changes.

Who was?

- Who was? - Cipher and Shane and Shane. You there? I mean, I'm not, I'm not, they come ask me about that and I'm not gonna lie to them about that. I'm not gonna get in trouble with my brother. I love him, but I just can't lie about that. - Say that. - What? - Say that. Who's making you say that? - Nobody's making me say it, mother. I'm telling you from my own heart. - What'd they do with the car? - I don't know, mother.

Over the course of the call, Cindy, his mother, starts crying.

All right, bye.

After the prosecutor played the calls, the defense asked Dillon whether he had been telling TBI and his mom the truth. Did the things you tell TBI then, were they true? No, they were not true. You listen to recordings of talking to your mom. Were the things you were telling your mom true? No. The defense asked Dillon about his relationship with his mom.

Dylan said, "She's always treated me good." As Dylan was giving this testimony, Zach appeared to be wiping tears from his eyes. Afterwards, the prosecutor jumped back in to finish cross-examining Dylan.

Let me make sure I understand this. Everything you told law enforcement since February 23rd of 2011, everything you've told law enforcement has been a lie? Yes, ma'am. OK. And everything you said to your mother in those calls was a lie? Yes, ma'am. Why were you crying? Why were you crying if that was a lie? I mean, if your mother talked to you that way, would you not cry?

She told you she loved you. Why were you crying? I don't have the answer to that. Over the course of the four-day-long hearing, the judge heard from multiple TBI agents, Dylan Adams, some of Zach's former lawyers, cell phone analysts, the people who were at the center of the exhaustive investigation into Holly Bobo's murder.

But the hearing's resolution is still up in the air. Remember, the defense has appealed the judge's decision to bar the video it recorded with Jason Autry. The judge placed the hearing on an extended recess until the appeal is decided. Which means even after this days-long hearing and after all these years, we still don't have an answer.

we still don't know what exactly happened to Holly Bobo. The hearing is expected to pick up in a few months' time. Still on the defense's witness list, Zach Adams himself and Jennifer Nichols, the former prosecutor in the Zach Adams trial, now a sitting judge.

After the 2017 trial, the pastor for the Bobo family said they knew this would be a long road. We also spoke to the Bobo family in 2017. Holly's mother, Karen, told us she couldn't bring herself to even look at her daughter's remains. She said she wanted to remember Holly for who she was when she was alive.

I'm hoping she'll also be remembered for not just the beautiful person on the outside she was, but the beautiful person on the inside. That's how I want to remember. I want her remembered that way, and that's how I choose to remember her.

At the end of 2020, lawmakers in Tennessee passed the Holly Bobo Act, which allows TBI to send out endangered persons alerts, not just for children, but also for those up to age 21. It's intended to make sure authorities can move even faster and alert the public when young adults go missing. The Holly Bobo case is one of the most convoluted, complicated crimes I've ever covered.

At every turn, I found myself asking more questions. And as you've heard, even some of the former investigators who worked this case still have questions themselves, including whether the wrong guys went to prison for this murder. No matter what you think, it's clear there are a lot of people whose lives were forever changed after Holly was murdered.

As for Zach, he is still fighting to clear his name and overturn his conviction. He says there's not a day that goes by that he doesn't think about this case. Over 10 years, there's not one day that hasn't went by that you don't think. Every time I see this fence, every time I...

What do you think about? Surely not. You pray to God. I pray to God all the time. Surely God just didn't work the rest of my life, looks like.

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