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Is this thing on? Hi, babies. Welcome back to another episode of Dumb Blonde. Actually, welcome back to a new season. And I figured what better way to open up season number nine than with a guest who's been on the show. But since she's been on the show, so much has happened. And the Internet is so curious about her. Ms. Whitney Wren, baby. Hello, bitches. Oh.

First of all, let's tell everybody how hungover you are. Yeah, I threw up right before I came here. I actually texted her and I was like, well, she was sick first. And then she texted me and goes, I'm sick. I said, okay, me too. But I sucked it up. Dude, I fucking, I went through the neurovirus. You were just at our new bar last night. It was so good. It was so cute. Your whole, I'm like.

damn that's a good picture yeah baddie up there thank you i'm like i have i have the funniest tiktok i'm gonna do when we go there tonight because it's this huge fucking picture of me right and all you see is a big ass toe and it's like that's not the toe i want to see so i'm just gonna be there i'm gonna be there like what made you pick that i'm just gonna be pointing at it and then just zoom into the toe i can't wait to do it let me pick that one that's the

toe oh everybody's gonna notice the toe now and i can't wait it's gonna go viral can't fucking wait but anyways enough about me we are here to talk about you lady

so much has changed since the last time you were here last time you were on the show you were here with your best friend Kristen yeah I was and for anybody who wants to listen to that interview I forget I think it's season six season seven just look for Kristen and Whitney you can get all their backstories you can hear about how they grew up all that stuff this interview is going to be all about the drama okay so no backstories here but I

I want to just say I love you. You know that I love you and I've always had your back and I hate having to see some of the shit you go through online. It really fucking sucks. And I think you handle it so good. Like, is it different now than when you were here last time? Like how you handle things? Like, does it hurt as bad or is it just kind of roll off your shoulders now? Or do you have to really like process it and take time and like deal with it?

Yeah, it affected me so much to where I had to actually go. I was going to walk into a mental hospital. So it was to the point where I pushed my boyfriend away. I pushed all my friends away. Like all I was worried about was making money, which shout out to you coming here. Like the last time definitely changed my life because I give you credit to all the ideas for everything for the podcast and everything. So thank you for that. I appreciate it.

Yeah, like, genuinely, I just think being on social media is, like, one of the hardest things that you can really do. Like, obviously, it's not a 9-5, and there's not really a lot that you can do, like, that way. But I just think that now, after, like, seeing that...

I really don't have much friends anymore. And then losing my boyfriend and everything was just put out like on social media. They're judging everything that you do. You say you walk, you talk. I couldn't even walk outside and somebody not take a picture of me if I was with another guy or like anything like that. So it was just like,

it gets annoying but it definitely affected like my my brain and the way i thought about things i thought everybody was out to get me everybody wanted to hurt me or use me or everything like that so once i got medicine and stuff i kind of just stepped back and was like swallowed a lot and now i just focus on me and what i want to do and

Make myself happy. So you ended up not going to the mental hospital, but you did get help and they put you on medication. And are you feeling better now? Yeah, I feel better. I feel less irritated. I think I was very overwhelmed with everything that was going on with like the podcast and my friends were hurting me constantly. And my boyfriend was up my ass 24 seven. So it was just like everything was leading up to like me just breaking. Yeah. And it just pushed everybody away. And yeah,

I mean, I eventually like see now not everybody has the best intentions for me and my life except for like my family. And there's like one or two people that obviously support me and stuff. But yeah, I feel better now. Well, I'm glad to hear that. But let's OK, so let's take it back for everybody who is following the story and who knows a little bit about everything. Last time you were on the show, you were here with your best friend, Kristen.

you guys were really tight, it seemed like. A lot of us don't know what went on behind closed doors or how your guys' friendship was behind closed doors, but you guys had a very public friendship and then also a very public breakup. And this was before you were even with Tyler, so we're going to get into even how you and Tyler got together and that whole situation. But first, let's talk about the BFF. What happened with you and Kristen exactly? Because I know everybody is so...

just invested in you guys. It's almost kind of sick how, and like, I'll see grown women that are just like,

So you guys are like literally reality TV, which we're going to talk about the reality TV show too, because you motherfuckers should have came with me. I know, but hey, it's all right. The future. There's always a future. There's always a second time around. That shit would be fun. But yeah. So what happened with you and Kristen? Like, take me on that journey and tell me, you know, what happened when you guys left here?

you guys started the podcast let's start from there you guys started the podcast you guys started doing really good i was doing a lot for her to like be successful and one thing about me is i always want to see my friends rise up with me i never want to see anybody fall so i think after that we started the podcast it it was really good in the beginning because it was like we were motivated to want to make episodes and have people on and stuff and then

Towards like the middle of it, it was kind of just me doing it. And I started to get a little bit frustrated because I don't like doing something and you're going to get 50-50. We're going to put in the same effort. So I was losing that a little bit. So it started to get me irritated in her. Plus, she started getting with Jacob. And I had to motivate her to get up, to do things constantly like,

We had a very, very close relationship, like very close. Like I loved the fuck out of her. Like she was my like ride or die. Like I would do anything for her. And I think it kind of got a little bit like different after her and Jacob got together. So she kind of started, she's a very like one-on-one person. Like if you're,

You have to just be one person. She doesn't really have a lot of people around her like that. So she's like out of sight, out of mind. Yes. So then when she moved out, we started the podcast, did all that. And then she got with Jacob ever since then. It was kind of like very just like her personality changed. She wasn't as like clingy to me. So that changed me because like we were like this. Yeah. So after that, like her and Jacob got together, I kind of backed off a little bit because I

She started, like, pushing me away, so I was like, it's fine. Did she push you away because Jacob didn't like you? I don't think Jacob liked me the whole time. Why do you think he doesn't like you? Because I knew he was... He's just very... Like, I love them now together. I'm happy for them. I just didn't like the way that I see through people very easily. I can look at somebody, and I swear to God, I'm psychic. I can look at somebody and just feel...

because of how much I wanted her to succeed. And like, I loved her so much. And I saw everything Rocky put her through. She went through with Connor, her being depressed. I had to go pick her up from her house. Like everything just was, I was just now getting her to like where she could stand up on her own. And then Jacob steps in and he, I mean, not to be like that, but he didn't have followers. He didn't have money. He didn't have like

He was with Rachel, so it was just kind of like messy. And I was just very standoffish with him because I didn't like the past of him. But I obviously accepted him. I was like, he's a good guy, whatever, regardless of his past. So with them being together, kind of just like, I don't know if he just didn't like me because he knew I saw. And I would like, I never really made comments about

It was just kind of like, why would you do that? Or like, why would you let him do that? So I think...

He knew that I knew. And like, I loved her so much that it seemed like obsessive because I wanted to be around her all the time. Like she just made me happy. So I think he kind of just never really liked me. I never, we went on vacations and stuff and he never even had conversations with me. Do you think maybe she was telling him stuff without you around, which is why he was like that? Maybe, but I don't, there was never like, I'm very honest and very blunt. So if you have a problem or you're,

you have something wrong and you gotta tell me or else I won't care. Yeah. I'll still do the same shit. And then after me and Tyler, when me and Tyler got together, she got even weirder and like, I don't know, everything just like fell apart. Like it just with the podcast, like,

She claimed that we were just more business partners, but I was still in her phone every day checking up on her. Hey, how are you? How was the baby? Are you good? Are you sick? Do you need me to bring you anything? Do you want food? Do you want water? Everything like that. Like I was like this because I want her to be my friend so bad. And I don't know why. I just think like I've never been around somebody that's so genuinely fun and like funny and like we get along very well. So everything just switched. Her personality completely changed.

when she got with Jacob. So ever since then, like, I kind of just... She kind of just left you. Yeah. But, like, even hanging out with her recently, the last times we were hanging out, she's so different. She doesn't really laugh. Like, so it kind of just got to where the baby came, and then she tried to say, like, I'm growing away from you, and then... I don't know. I just... I'm very...

I'm a very good friend. So sometimes like things I don't see in front of me. I just want to make people better. And I don't know, everything changed. Well, you make jokes about it online and every, there's kind of a rumor that swirls around online. Like, were you in love with Kristen? It wasn't ever like, no, in the beginning, in the beginning, I think like we would, she would make out with me all the time. Yeah. But I don't know if it was like,

Just her. We would just be drunk and stuff. But we never hooked up or anything. Like, it never got to that. She's straight. I'm not into girls like that anymore. So, it was never like that. But I just, I think I fell in love with our relationship. Our friendship. Because it was so easy to be myself. It was like a sister. Yeah. And I've never really had a sister like that. Yeah. I have my two younger sisters, but they're, like, 13 and 10. So, it's like, I was never close with that. And then...

I get weird about like abandonment and stuff like that. So when she just left, I was kind of just like, I get angry when people push me away.

So you guys have this huge explosion online. Why do you feel like she attacked you the way she did? Like what set that off? With which time? I mean, there's a few. So, I mean, let's talk about them. Like what is your side of the story with the situations that she presented online to everybody? With like the last few times we talked, she was very like, I don't like...

Doesn't want me to be around you doesn't want you to be around the kids and stuff like that That's where I was like, okay This is fucking weird like I would never ever do anything to put you or your family in danger But I do not like that he made

towards my friend he was he was that that's just something I do not are you talking about the situation yeah I just do not agree with that like what happened in that situation okay so this is actually what happened it's her birthday we go out Kristen stays home she's pregnant we go out to Dylan Scott concert we all left to go to the bar drunk he was drunk he kept picking her up and like she had a skirt on I kept like pulling her off of him like because it was just I'm

I do not like that shit. I'm sorry. But if, if that were Tyler and another girl or something like that, I would know. And especially me, that's like my best friend sitting at home pregnant. And you're going to do that in front of my face with another girl. Yeah. So then we get in the car and they get in the backseat and she kept like tapping, like, get him off me and get him off me. So he's like sitting there, they're next to each other. He kept putting his hand all over her and kissing her neck. And I'm watching this whole thing. Like,

It makes me so upset because he was actually kissing her. Yes. Making out with her neck, biting her neck. Like, and I'm sitting there watching and he grabs me and I said, okay, I'm done. Like I'm done. I pull her off. I put her to the front and then he was so drunk. He didn't remember. So the next day I called Kristen and I was like, I was like this, I didn't want this to come from me because I don't know if he remembers it or not. But I said, I called her and I said, you need to tell her.

Or you need to call him and he needs to apologize to you. He needs to apologize to your boyfriend. And he needs to apologize to Kristen. Because all of that, I'm watching. I had to see all of that. And I don't want to see that and not say anything. And if Kristen found out from somebody else and you didn't tell her, then it would be... Yeah, she would not. Yeah. So all of that, like, it all came out and...

Still talked about it. He talked about it constantly. Like it bothered her for a long time and they're all mad because she came out and talked about it, but she won't admit it because she doesn't want people to be mad at her. But at the end of the day, it's just, I don't, I don't put up with that shit. I don't like, I hate when people always say you cheated, but you cheated. No, like I broke up with them and then whatever happens after that happens after that. But

I just didn't like that all that happened in front of me and I had to be the one to say something and then he gets mad at me for the shit he did. Right. Well, that's usually how it is with kids. Yeah. Unfortunately. And so I called him out about it and he wants to try me about my relationship, but I snapped. And I was like, you're not going to sit there and talk about my relationship when you did that to a pregnant girl. And ever since then, she didn't talk to me again. So you feel like she definitely chose you. Yeah. I hate that. Yeah. I mean...

If Kristen called you right now and was like, hey, I'm sorry. Oh, she already had. Oh. Yeah, that we were now is going to get into that too. She's we've we've talked. She knows I'm like me and that's her man. So I can't do anything about that. So when's the last time you guys talked today? No, I texted her. I said I posted a bunch of TikToks of us, but I still love her. I still care for her. I am happy for that. She's a baby and stuff. I just love.

sucks that I couldn't really be like a part of it. Has she apologized to you? Yeah. You know, Hey, let's be friends again. I said sorry to her too, just her overreacting and stuff, but good. I'm glad you guys talked. Cause I, I'm seeing both of you guys hurt, you know, like,

You can tell she doesn't like being without her best friend either. And I feel like every girl, it doesn't matter how much you love your man, you want your friends around too. And it's hard to just be in just a relationship with your man and your baby every single fucking day. She needs some sort of outlet. That's what I say. I love my friends. I love having girl time. It's so much different. A man doesn't understand everything.

half the shit that girls go through. Like a period. Like they don't even know what that feels like. Yeah. Let alone fucking postpartum, which she, did you ever think that maybe she was going through postpartum with all that shit? I was there for her trying to help very, very much. She, now,

never really talked about it with me we started to get distant like she didn't really like open up she probably didn't even realize she was going through it because you know she is so young and just had a baby so that shit could have just been affecting her mentally and she didn't even know it she could just be like just now coming out of it you know she says that she doesn't like like she I

I was just very overbearing, I think, with how much I wanted to take care of her. Just even the last, like, even after the baby, I was on, I was in her phone, like, I want to come see him. Like, I want you to be there. Like, I want to take care of you. Like, it was just, like, an instinct to, like, want to be there for her. And she kept just, like, pushing and pushing and pushing away. So I kind of just, I gave up. Which hurt you more, though, too. Yeah. And another thing, too, is my own boyfriend was like, you do not need to be friends with her. Like, she treats you like shit.

So it was like, I was... You guys both let boys get in the middle. Yeah, like, I just... And then plus with the podcast, too, it just... That was the only time we would see each other. We were planning dinners and stuff. We would go and do stuff together constantly. And then it just kind of, like, the baby and... I was like, we can do stuff together. But I think the Tyler thing, too, kind of messed her up. I don't know because she would definitely make, like, comments. And...

I love Tyler. I've always loved Tyler. I wanted to be with Tyler the first day I fucking met him. So it sucked that I seen them together and like I wanted them to be together and they didn't want to be and then they did and then I wanted him because he's just a great person and he can be...

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So take me on that journey with you and Tyler.

You guys, because last time you were here, I don't last time you were at, you weren't with Tyler. I don't even think you guys were talking. I think she was with Tyler. Okay. So I see. I didn't know that. I don't think you guys even talked about that on the podcast. She didn't really want to talk about it. Like, yeah, I don't think she wanted to be with him like that. How long were they together for eight, nine months? Oh, wow. So they were together for a minute, but she was seeing other guys and he was seeing other girls. Yeah. Was that ever weird for you that he was with her before you the whole time? Yeah. Yeah.

But I never like I'm not insecure. Like I don't get bothered. No, it's not insecurity. But at the same time, it's kind of like girl code. You know, it's like, fuck. I know. I tried like not to for so long. I was like, I can't help it. Like I like I just love who he is and.

what he does and what he stands for. So it just hurt. And I asked her, I pulled her aside too, like before, cause we did that TV show thing. Yeah. And that's what happened with that. Let's go on that journey before the Tyler thing. I have no idea. So you guys went, okay. Cause I remember we sent you guys a contract. Yeah. And then that's, and this is, this is, nobody knows this. That was like January. Yeah. The nobody knows this. So I sent the girls over a contract and Kristen actually took that contract and took it over to somebody's house and

and had it all circled and like made pretty much was making fun of it, which is why I got upset with Kristen. Cause I was like, but then I had to remember that I'm dealing with somebody who's way younger than me. And this is her first time, you know, ever doing any sort of deals and stuff like that. Um, and that's where my, my, um, what else happened? Something else happened. MJ called a few people. MJ.

Yeah. Well, oh, and MJ, I don't know what happened. She said she told MJ or something. She was like calling people and telling them. Yeah. It wasn't just MJ though. Cause I didn't do that. Cause I know it wasn't just, it wasn't just MJ at somebody and you guys a circle and I'm not going to give her up because I just would never do that to her. She's always been sweet to me. But, um, she came with receipts and sent me like screenshots and like, it was like, and I just couldn't to hear Kristen talk that way and be so fucking disrespectful. Well, I was just like,

You little bitch. She won't say shit to your face. Right. Which is fine. And I don't, and now I do not have a problem with Kristen. Like we're fine. But in that moment I was like, I'm offering you something that's going to really help you guys out and like not try to fuck you guys. And then that's, you know, whatever. So you guys ended up signing something with somebody else. No, you guys didn't sign anything? I did my, I did, I started it all.

You what? I started it all. Oh, you're talking about the reality show. The reality show. So that was Tyler's parents like met somebody and they. Yeah. Because I remember you guys were making videos in some lawyer's office. And I was like, this guy looks like a fucking car salesman. They reached out to us and they're like, hey, you guys moved to Alabama for two weeks, like film some some shit, bro. They had cameras on us the whole time, like in our cars. They had the GoPros. They had everything like it was a real deal. Yeah. Yeah.

And then like we would do like the TV, like the TV show shit where you sit down and do the confessions and all that stuff. Like we did that shit for two weeks straight and I performed and did all this shit. And then it's nowhere to be found. But they're still like texting us in group chats saying like, it's coming. The sizzle reel is coming. It's been two years, bro. Bitches got pregnant and had a baby by the time that this thing isn't even edited yet. And you guys have like no rights. Has anybody looked over the contracts? Yeah, we had like 3% each of us.

You guys. Yeah. And it was going to be like... Mimi's over there dying laughing. You guys should have came with us. It was kind of like the experience because I don't need money, but like it's just I wanted to be... I've always liked to act or show. Demand what you're worth, though. And that's what I've always tried to instill in you girls. Like don't... If somebody comes to you and offers you 3% of your brand, are you fucking kidding me? Now looking back, I'm like... Yeah, because Taylor was... Taylor Holder was arguing with the...

The guy for a while because he's like, I'm not going to be in it. I want to be in this because my friends want me here. But he's like, I'm not signing this shit for this man. Like he was pissed because he's done a show before. Yeah. This is bullshit. So then now all of a sudden it's just gone. There's 12 days of footage. I'm talking like.

Like me and Tyler were sneaking around that whole week. Nobody knew that we were together. And I wish we had that footage because it's like basically like us like falling in love and everybody finding out. And it's just not it's just non-existent. Can you hire a lawyer to get that footage? We probably could. Yeah. I don't know why you guys wouldn't hire a lawyer to get that footage and look over the contract that you guys signed.

I'm going to tell Tyler because his mom was the one that like had everything arranged basically. Yeah. And then all of a sudden I was just missing. Not shitting on Tyler's mom, but that was a fucking just a weird situation. Like they had you guys doing all sorts of like social media for it. Yes. And then all of a sudden it's gone. And they wouldn't let us post like.

some of the stuff that we were doing like yeah we went and like skeet shot like and did like the duck hunting stuff and we did water balloon fights we did sumo wrestling like it was so much fun it's missing so it's like it sucks because i want to watch it i do know tv takes a long fucking time though so if they really we didn't have a sizzle reel but there was nothing even like

at all. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, that's insane. I would definitely get a lawyer involved and try to find out what's going on because that's just... Because we could take it and give it to somebody else and they could edit it and post it. Absolutely. That or you guys could fucking do it yourselves and put it on YouTube. Seriously, at this point, I would have had to edit it 15 times. Yeah, literally. Yeah, I would definitely try to get that footage and see if you guys can get it. But you guys always have to sign one bad deal to appreciate the next. And it sucks because I'm going through like three things right now because I'm not...

I don't put up with people's shit anymore. I'm done. Like I don't, that's why I don't like signing anything with anybody. Cause they just have the rights to you. And like, if I change my mind, like I don't want to say it, I'll tell you after. Okay. But just like, like thank God. I mean, me and Kristen's like podcast thing wasn't like, it was as needed. So it wasn't as like messy as it had to be, but I'm still going through that lawsuit with the,

Oh, I told you guys, man. I said, you have to be careful what you guys talk about. I tried so hard to protect you all. It was the fact that I don't even say her name and it's still a thing. But you're telling her damn story. Money hungry, dude. I know. You can't tell other people's stories. I've learned very valuable lessons myself through this journey. It's very, it's, you know, nobody gives you a fucking...

booklet on how to have a podcast. I've had mine since 2019. I was just copying your shit. Still learning shit, girl. I'll give you all the credit too. I love you. I'm still learning shit, but you just got, you just got really caught up. We started a trend. Yeah. You guys just got really caught up in a bad situation and now you're, you know, it's, it's a lesson learned and chalk it up, but. Now I know. Shit. If I were to go back in time,

I wouldn't say anybody's name.

Yeah. We don't, I don't say anybody's name anymore. And if I do, I'll bleep it out. Like I just, the only reason we're saying like Kristen's name and stuff like that, she's been on the podcast. She knows that I'm sure she knows you're coming here and you know, I'm sure she doesn't mind us talking about her cause we're not talking about her in a negative light except for when I was mad at her, but that was fucking years ago. We're over it. Um, and I haven't even had a chance to talk to her about it really. I was going to wait till I saw her in person. I have shit. I have so much to tell her and she will not talk to me. Like I'm,

towards the end of our like breakup we like nothing was even talked about in person so it was like frustrating because I wanted to just have a conversation with her and be adults you know I'm 26 years old what are we doing yeah that's hard whenever you want to communicate and that other person's not open yeah like I'm your sister dude like I'll be here till the end I don't give a fuck what you did you killed my fuck my

My rabbit would still be your friend. No, don't be killing any rabbits, buddy. Well, I'm glad that you and Kristen are talking again, though, because I really feel like you guys will find each other again. And I knew that whenever I anytime I see like little friendship breakups on line, I'm like, this is they'll they'll be back together. It just takes time. And all friends have to go through that shit.

You guys have to kind of like learn each other's boundaries and like how far the other one will go. And like, you know, there's just a kind of like a pecking order, I guess you could say. So let's talk about this relationship with Tyler. You guys start filming this reality show. You guys are falling in love behind the scenes. Did Kristen know? Like who knew? To be honest, no.

I think Kreesh was the only one that knew. I feel like Kreesh harbors tons of secrets for everybody. And he don't say shit. I know. He's such a little OG. Yeah. He's really sweet, too. He's been through a lot. And he's young, so. I hope he can find a girl that just, like, loves the shit out of him because he deserves it. Yeah, he's funny. And Kaden. Where the fuck has Kaden gone? Fucking...

making music I think yeah he calls me randomly and I'm like he's just different yeah he just texted me the other night he's like are you at your bar I'm like no I'm like where did I wanted to be like where have you been yeah seriously he'll call me randomly and be like miss you and I'm like thanks yeah miss you too where have you been yeah like he doesn't even post on TikTok anymore or anything but um no one really knew okay so

I had another boyfriend for like two weeks. The guy with the fish necklace? No, different one. Okay. She said no. It was Jesse. Okay, okay, yeah, yeah. I remember him. God, it was only two weeks. Why did it seem so much longer? She tried to ask me out three days after I met him. I was like, whoa. You live in fucking BFE. We got to chill.

So I was dating him at the time and I went to Gulf Coast Jam and Tyler, like Tyler's always like me. He's always made comments about like my ass and like how hot I am and stuff. So it was like, he just constantly always did that. That's sweet little Tyler. He, he wanted to show me his little reality show. He was flirting with a girl on TV and I was like, oh, he's cute. Whatever. Like,

And then from there, I think we kind of just were hanging out. He would fly down to me and like hang out with me, but he would show me like more how much of a gentleman he was. Like he, me and him weren't even together. He drove me 10 hours to Alabama and we drive back. Like he like was just very caring. Like he cares about other people more than himself. So like I would notice that cause I mean, obviously we were friends for like two years before that, but nobody knew. And, um,

When we all went to this Luke Combs concert and he came, but I don't think that we talked about us being together at all. Like we didn't, we, I just didn't want to sneak it into existence yet because like, I didn't even know. So I was with my other ex Tate at the Luke Combs concerts and he was old jazz. Tate's all over the fucking internet right now too. I know. Yeah. I saw that.

He better not because I don't know. I like his girl, Lindy. Oh, she's hot. She's fucking gorgeous. She don't like me, but I love her. She's gorgeous. And I think she's got a great personality. Yes. You know? Yeah. Like she just. So that night, nobody knows this, but.

me and Tyler made out in the pool. We didn't talk about it after. - While you were there with Tate? - After that, yeah. But me and Tate, we weren't like, I've known him for so long, we were always on and off, we just kinda would hook up and not date and stuff. But that night, me and Tyler made out, but we didn't talk about it, we didn't tell anybody, we literally just didn't, and then it didn't happen again. So 'til the show, Rock the South, he went up to one of my friends and was like, "Tell her I like her, just to see what she would say."

That ever since then, like, we were, like, inseparable. And then that's when my, like... So we were together for nine months, I want to say. And we were talking about, like, getting married. So that kind of scared me a little bit. But I also, like, like the thought of, like, being married and, like, doing things together. But I'm also very...

because I lost my dad, I definitely have like a wall still with anybody and just like not fully giving myself to somebody and making them my partner. Like, I just don't have this idea in my brain of like, they're going, like, I always have like, they're going to leave. They're going to leave. Like, it just immediately, they just always have this thought in my head, like, they're not going to stay forever. So why am I going to share all of this? Like, even thinking about sharing a bank account with somebody, I just like, like, it doesn't,

reach my mind. Just like, there's no way. It's not possible. So like, he was like wanting to get married. Like we were going to, he was going to propose to me and it kind of scared me a little bit. So, and then mentally, like I was going through this stuff with Kristen, a lawsuit with Bree, with like, there's just so many things that were like the big new house. I had fucking 10 dogs. Like it was just, everything was building up and I just, I just needed to just like, just fart. I wanted to like, it was just like spaz. Yes. And then I started to mentally go insane and he,

Is young. He hasn't really been through a lot. Like I've lost...

I mean, a few people in my life, people have died. I've gone through the divorces. I've gone through drugs, porn fucking addictions. Like, I've seen it all. So for me, like, things trigger me fast. So when somebody's overstimulating me so much, it starts to piss me off. And I get very angry and upset, and I don't know what to do with myself. Like, it makes me want to, like, actually wake up and just kill somebody. Like, it drives me insane. So I told him, I was like, you need to go home, focus on yourself, like,

I still want to be with you, but he just didn't understand me. And it's hard. I don't even understand me, but I knew I needed to get help. And he wasn't helping me by not by questioning, questioning my like mental stability. Like I was already gonna fall. I don't want to bring you with me. So I broke up with him and I sat in the car writing a text to him because I, I tried to break up with him a week before. Cause I was like, I don't know what to do. I either have to leave you or

Because you don't understand me or I have to like literally go to a hospital for you to understand how fucked up I am right now Like you're not understanding. You're just and they're a really hard time I was horrible like I couldn't even like I looked happy and like that's why everybody so confused was I'd list look so happy and I just I cannot I couldn't do it anymore like I love Tyler so much that I couldn't bring him down with me and I sat in the car with I actually talked to Kristen for a little bit Kristen was like you should probably break up with them and

I talked to you, said the same thing. And then... Ended up switching on you? Yeah. We'll talk about that, too. We're going to bleep her name because she doesn't even deserve the notoriety. I met her that one time, and I did not love her energy. A lot of people didn't. Yeah. But I was the only one that did, so that fucked me over, too. But after that, I sat with her, and I'm bawling my eyes out, and I'm like, dude, I don't know what to do. He didn't want me to break up with him. He was trying to convince me not to, and it was like...

I can't control myself. Like, I don't know what I'm going to, I wake up. I was crying him for a good month every day because I was so mean to him. And I was like, I don't know what's going on with me. I was like, I don't know how you haven't even left me yet. Cause I'm so, I was so mean to him and I didn't know why. And so I, it was my anxiety. I have OCD, I have PTSD. I have everything you could name like in my brain and nothing to no one to talk to. So I ended up just like,

I went fucking, I don't even know. You're like, let me just drop this bomb right here. Right there. And nobody knew. It was just one day. I just flipped a switch and I was like, I'm done. Like, I can't.

And I went haywire. I went... You just reached a breaking point. And, like, I didn't want to see him because I didn't want to hurt him. So that's how I went to cops, the cop call, whatever. I told him not to show up at my house. Like, I was so fucked up that I could not, like, mentally see him. I didn't want to give him back his stuff because I wanted to be with him. It just... I needed to get right first. So I ended up doing that. A lot of chaos happened. Um...

Fuck with the police calls and then a lot of shit's going down with my family. And then let's just, for the people who don't know what's going on, all of this was playing out on social media. Yes. So like literally every breath you took was just... No, my phone call, my police call was posted online. That was so fucked up. I literally, that was like...

That was like when my anxiety was at its peak and I just wish I didn't know what to do. Like I physically had no other option.

Because I was so scared of everything that was going on in my brain and with life. And everything, I don't even remember half of it. I blacked out for most of the time. Well, you probably had selective memory because everything was so traumatic. I mean, I know the shit we were seeing online, too. We were like, holy fuck. Nobody liked me because of how much I was acting out. And I knew what I was doing. Yeah. But like.

No, it wasn't about you acting out. I was just all the hate that you were getting. It was just not. That's why I think I even text you. Are you OK? And I went online and told everybody like I'm mentally unstable. Like, what do we not understand? Yeah. Leave me alone. Guess what kind of bra I'm wearing, guys. If you've been listening to the podcast for a while, then you would know that it is a Skims T-shirt bra. Underneath this T-shirt I have on Skims. In these pants I have on Skims. Skims everything.

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And they don't, they don't give a shit. They really don't. And that's the one side of TikTok that like, everybody's like, so how do you feel about this band? And I'm like, I don't, I'm, I don't care. I'm indifferent either way because TikTok is such a stepping stone and it's amazing for some things, but on the other side, advertising for me, that's fine. Yeah. But on the other side, it's, I've seen it just ruin people's lives and like tear them down. And I mean,

The shit that you and Kristen and fucking Tyler and all of them go through in that circle is horrible.

And the craziest part is like, aside from us being online, there's so many people that I know in real life that do the same shit and they don't get hate for it because they're not online. Right. But it's like, I see like people stealing people's baby daddies. They're not, they're not getting fucked over. Like they're not getting, who cares? Yeah. Who gives a shit? But like, because it's online, it's just such a big deal. Like you. Well, it's because you have people that are at home that,

and this isn't me being rude. It's just people that don't stay at home moms and it's like they're living their lives vicariously through you guys, which to me, a 30 and 40 year old woman living their lives through you guys is already fucking weird to me. I would never do that. Like I'm 45 years old. I love you like a little sister and I'm proud of you for what you do, but I'm not going to like live my life through you.

- I look at myself and I'm like, how the fuck? Like they'll literally take like my screenshots, like my Snapchat and like zoom in and be like, she's wearing those kind of nails on that day. That means that they fucked. Like it's just like weird. - That's how I know about the fish necklace thing. I saw like a video popped up and they're like, he has the same fish necklace on as her. And I'm like, are you kidding me? There's so many times I wanna just talk shit on these T pages and be like, are you guys fucking okay? Who needs a hug? I'm handing them out, you know? But you just can't because then you feed their fuel

And it's funny because what actually really gets me really is the T pages that have mental, like they're going through mental shit by posting my life. Like you're going through shit because you're getting hate for posting what the fuck I'm doing. Yeah. That's weird.

Like, imagine how I feel. You're posting what I'm doing. Imagine how I feel. I get to double the hate, but thank you for posting, man. It gives me clout. But like...

Well, it's hurtful all around. So, so let's go back to this. Uh, you made the phone call to the cops when Tyler showed up at your house and you asked him not to, when you were in the house, your ex was in there with you. Okay. Why was he in there with you, Whitney? Okay. So 4th of July, you go to the bar. Okay. He shows up.

He's there hanging out with his friends. Which by the way, he is not hot. No, he's not. Okay. I'm like, you are way too beautiful for that, dude. He put me through a lot of shit too. I think it was more like an out to make it feel like a validation type of thing because I knew he was going to come back to me like anytime I wanted. And I don't know why I hurt Tyler like that. It was just dumb.

But you were having what sounds like kind of like a nervous breakdown. Oh, it's terrible. You just lost your best friend. You are dealing with a fucking heavy lawsuit, which is scary. You are. I think you lost Bree at the time, too. Or were you guys beefing? I might have been like right before. OK. But it was just like everything was just like not crashing down. Yeah. And then it got worse from there. So she's like, that's not it. No, here's like here. God. Wait, we're figuring out why.

I don't want to say his name, but Fishboy. So in the house. Why Fishboy was in the house. So that day from the bar, we leave. Okay, let me just... I'm not going to point fingers, but there was somebody that basically invited him to the house. Did I say no? No, because I don't care. I'm single now. Like, what the fuck? I don't care. And I wanted, like, validation, I think, whatever. An ego stroke. There was four of us that went back to the house, and then...

That was just the first day. And, like, it's... For me, I like to have, like, a backup plan. Like, so whenever, like, something goes wrong, I always have, like, a backup plan. And he was, like, my backup plan because I was just, like, I don't know, dumb. I talk about that in my book. I used to triangulate men all the time. And just keep them around. Like, it just was like a, like a, come on. Yeah. So...

Here boy, here boy. And he was there and two days later we go on the boat. The only other person that has driven my boat, I bought this boat. Okay, this is my boat, but I don't drive it. I have other men drive it for me. So because I didn't have a boyfriend at the time, I called my ex because I knew he could drive a boat. He drives a boat. We go out during the day, whatever. Is it just you two? Yeah.

No, it was like a huge group of us. Were you guys hooking up at all? No. No.

There's cameras on you, Whitney. Yeah, I think everybody knows by now, yeah. It was just once. It was just once. It was like a recollection type of thing. Had to like... Selective memory kick in again. Remember it. And then I remember why I broke up with him too. Oh, no. Yeah. The third day after the boat, I was like, I need someone to clean the boat. I'm not going to go home and clean the boat myself. So he comes back, cleans the boat.

Tyler was texting me throughout that day and that morning. He flew all the way down from Alabama to get his stuff. Okay. Then he had like a passport and maybe like a bunch of clothes. And he wanted this damn dog crate that he gave to me. I was like, fuck it.

I said, do not show up to my house. I will call the cops on you. Like, I don't care. Like, it was just like, it was a boundary thing, I think, because I knew he was trying to overstep my boundary. And for me, I get anxiety when people don't respect me. I understand that. So he was like, I'm showing up to your fucking house, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, no, the fuck. So he pulls up. I knew he was coming. So I think I had kept my ex there just in case anything happened.

Did I want Tyler to know that he was in there? No, but I knew either way he was going to find out. I mean, what am I going to lose? I already broke up with him, so it was like I had nothing to lose at that point. The only reason that he knew that he was in there was because my ex walks in the fucking garage and is playing with the dogs, and there's a full window just open. And I guess Tyler was just looking in there. I was like, dude, you fucking moron. So then...

The cops came, whatever. They tried to, like, they were asking me if I wanted to, like, press charges on, like, the trespassing or whatever. And I was like, no, because I know he's going to come back. Like, I know I'm going to be with him again. I just was going through shit. So, yeah, he was in the house. I ended up calling because I was, like, freaking out. Because, bro, at this point, Tyler was, like, on edge, too. He's like that, too. He gets a little...

So he's on edge. He brings him and Taylor over. I thought that someone was going to fight somebody because he sat outside my house for like two and a half hours. I was like, what are you looking for? We love Taylor, by the way. Yeah. Shout out, Taylor. Yeah, we love Taylor. I thought he was going to leave when I gave him the passport. No, he didn't leave. He just sat outside. I think he was going to stay. He was probably going to sleep outside. You were breaking his heart. I know, I did. And he loves you. I apologize. I think.

more more times than I than I yeah yeah so you guys go through this big debacle with the police call the breakup and then Tyler kind of starts living his best life online and like I don't know he was still on my phone the whole time yeah he was still like texting me we did try to I tried to get back with him

After, like, my meds start kicking in. So this is, like, August. I love that for you. I'm like, fuck. I'm like, I need him back. So, like, mid-August, I had a show. He was supposed to show up. You guys have been broken up for how long? How long is mid-August? Two months. Two months, okay. So, yeah, he had already been having his little... He was telling me he wanted to get back with me, whatever. Like, I went and saw him. Is he a Montana boy now? Because why is he hanging out with them all the time? No, I think Jayden is, though. They're all a little, like...

They're wilding out. I mean, let me tell you, they're having their fun. Good. They deserve to as they should. As they should. I mean, you're in Montana. What the fuck else are you going to do? Is Jaden in Montana too? No. Oh, okay. I think he just likes to. Jaden just likes to. Main. Yeah. He likes to make a guest appearance. He's like, he knows that they're all attractive. They can get whoever they want. Um, so, um,

Okay, so like mid-August, he's supposed to come to my show. He ends up going to Vegas and lies to me and doesn't tell me. He ends up getting with somebody.

calls me and that's the first time I he knew about my ex so I was like okay he gets all passed so this whole time you weren't hooking up with anybody else so that last time that one time I was like I'm never doing that again never did that again because my ex went online and was like yeah I fucked her but I was like okay you're disgusting oh yeah don't you hate dudes like that yeah like ew you're literally a drunk like stop but I mean any dude to be like hey I fucked this girl and go online and say that like that's so gross yeah I'm like oof

So that's the first time I ever heard of him getting with somebody. And I was like... It hurt? Yeah. I cried for like a week. And I was like, okay, well, I can't really be upset because... How did you find out? Because he didn't... He called me and told me. Oh, okay. So he was ready. He was like, hey, bitch, here's a heart dart. He's like, hey, bitch, yeah.

Instead of coming to your show, I actually fucked somebody. So thank you. Oh, he fucked her. Yeah. I was like, wow. Who was it? No idea. He said he didn't know who it is. Good for Tyler. I was like, period. I was like, was it good? Good for Tyler. He got his little heart broke. It was like, you know what? I'm going to go find out. Yeah. So then after that, um, some shit went down with him and Kristen with the whole, like, um, he,

- Yeah, 'cause he was hanging, 'cause it didn't Romeo somehow get in the mix too? Like where did he fucking come from? And then like Tyler and Romeo were there at the same time. - I don't know. - I don't remember. - I think he just wanted to like piss me off. Everything he was doing was just trying to piss me off. And I was like, you're doing a great job. - But are him and Jacob friends? - Yeah. - Tyler and Jacob and are him and Kristen friends? - Yeah. - Okay. - So I guess Tyler, I'm guessing.

didn't tell them. He'd never really told anybody like that he was still talking to me because he's really, he likes his image and that's fine. He's young and like he cares what people say about him. He does. Especially his parents and especially his friends and like even when we were together his friends always had something to say about me and blah blah which they still do. Like last night we had to have a talk with Jaden because he was like, "I don't care if you guys are together but just work it out." But which I understand

Well, they're probably looking out for their friend because they don't want him to be at his car. Oh, for sure. Yeah, no, I respect that. But don't be a dick. Like, you know, like, if he wants to be with me, he's going to be with me. Don't be a fucking asshole. You don't need to treat him like shit. Like, he's going to make himself happy whether he's with me or not. Yeah. Obviously, he's tried to move on. You guys have both tried to move on and you keep coming back to each other. So the situation that I was, I blocked Tyler. I was like, I am fucking done. Was when he went to Kristen and told her that I was begging him to talk to her.

Begging him to talk to me or else I was going to kill myself and she went online and said that and I I was That was when I was like going through so much shit and she sat there Knowing how much I was going through and I sat there and did the same thing with her in the beginning of when we were friends I was so distraught. I was like bro. This bitch did not just fucking go online and say that disgusting mental health That my mental health's fake and all this bullshit. I was like

Whatever. And then she also said I was pregnant or something about me saying I'm pregnant to keep him around when, come on, you know, he's still talking to me every fucking day. Like, let's not, let's not be surprised. Like,

But I was just so upset about like one. Was there a pregnancy? No, I thought. But I took a test. I never said I was pregnant. I literally just said, hey, like my boobs are I'm going to take a test. And then somehow fucking goes around everywhere. But I asked and she was living with me and she gave me a pregnancy test and it was negative. And I sent it to him and I was like, hey, like that. I don't know if like it's just early to say or something, but like I'm just letting you know, like I haven't had my period or whatever. So I sent it to him.

And he was fine. Like, he didn't, like, make a huge deal about it. And then, like, two weeks later, I was like, hey, I'm still feeling the same way. I think my birth control was just messed up or whatever, but...

When we had hooked up, when we weren't together, that was when I was kind of scared a little bit. So that's, I guess he just used that against me and was like, you know, she's fucking only talking to me because she thinks she's pregnant. Like that shit's not funny. Like, I don't like that because I don't want people to know that. And if I was, you just fucking outed me. Thank you. Right. Weird. I would never do that to you. I would never, ever say any of that stuff online ever. But battle went down. I blocked him. I was like, fuck you. I tried to move on.

Um, I, me and my manager were hanging out like extra, like we were, we were like, I was single. I was vulnerable. I didn't really care. So me and him were like hanging out, whatever. Um, I go to Georgia, which is like when me and Tyler, we loved Georgia, going to Georgia together. He had his own ATV there. Like my stepdad and my mom love him so much. Like he, like they want me to marry him.

We go there and he calls me randomly. He was talking to somebody else. He calls me. He goes, I can't be with... I don't want to be with anybody else. Like, I can't. I try to talk to other people. Like, he was talking to another girl on TikTok and...

He was like, I can't stop thinking about you, whatever. But I'm like, I'm with my manager in Georgia. So I'm like, fuck. Were you hooking up with the manager? Yeah. Because the manager's cute. Yeah. Okay. It wasn't even my manager. I never saw anything with him. He just helped me manage my life, basically. And he booked me shows. But I don't care to hide anymore. I'm not going to.

Sit here and like yeah, I don't yeah, so Go off but me and Tyler like weren't together But he was like still calling me and stuff and I did still see him like I didn't I wasn't gonna end up with my manager like I wasn't like he's no

So, yeah, ever since then, like we've been on and off, whatever. And I told him about the manager and he was really upset, which is understandable, whatever, because I did lie to him. But I just didn't want him to do what he did. And he went online with it. And I just I didn't want that. And trust him. Yeah. You guys are going to have to rebuild each other's trust again. This is going to take a really long time for both of you. Yeah. You guys did a lot of damage, you know, so it's. I hate that. I hate it because. But the thing is, if I didn't do that, I.

I wouldn't be stronger. I wouldn't step back and know like, this is what you don't do in a relationship. And this is the mental health that you did go through. I want to make sure I am mentally stable to be with somebody like, like you. I've never been with anybody like that where they're actually like not toxic and they want to love me and they want to give everything to me. And I'm still like, like,

So it's just hard because I'm so toxic my whole life. Everything that I've done and seen has been toxic. So it's like Tyler steps in my life and it's just perfect. Like, it's just like, he's just doesn't argue. He doesn't want to argue with me, wants to take care of me. So it was like really hard to see it. To let him love you. And now the meds kind of like straighten me out a little bit where I'm like nicer. I still get overstimulated a little bit, but.

But now we're hanging out and we definitely have fully back together. No, not yet. What's keeping you guys from being fully back together? Because I feel like you guys are together all the fucking time. I think we are. We just we haven't like he I don't know. I think he's he's testing the waters a little bit. Yeah. But how long has it been that you guys have been hooking back up again?

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Oh, let me just, okay, I'm going to tell you this because I don't give a fuck. Fuck, my manager had a fucking girlfriend the whole time. No. Yeah. So the motherfucker, we go to Turks. He takes me to Turks with his fucking family. And I'm like, he's like trying to date me. He's like, you can't talk to Tyler. You're like, blah, blah, blah. I was still talking to Tyler on Twitter.

I told Tyler I wanted to be just friends. He knew I was with the manager. Like, Tyler knew. He just didn't... He, like, stood off. Like, he didn't say anything. Whatever. He just let me be me. I go to fucking out of the country with this kid. He had a girlfriend at his house watching his dogs cleaning his house, and I had no idea. Did she know about you? She knew about me, and he just told her that we were just working together. I said, the fuck? You take your client...

To Turks with your family? Without... And stay in the same bed. Come on. Oh, my God. So this girl's, like, delusional. And she's, like, posting me. And, like, we get there. A week... A day before he goes, I don't know if you should go. And I'm like, what the fuck? I was like, I'm... I'm ready. I'm ready to walk the beach. Like, I don't care. I'm ready to get drunk. Like, no. So...

He's being weird. He's like, I don't have anybody else to watch the dogs. So I need to have my ex watch the dogs. I was like, okay. It's actually his ex. She had like a pregnancy scare, apparently, whatever with that. And they were still talking. I don't know. I didn't really get the whole spiel. We get on the plane. She fucking posts. While we're flying. Christmas with the dogs. Why was she at your house on Christmas? That's weird.

Well, I'm just going to... It's like, that's where he goes. I don't know. Maybe she just stopped by to drop the toys off for them. Okay. I was like, okay. We get there. He... This is like two, three days in. Like, we had already hooked up. Like, whatever. Three days in. This... Texts... I text the girl. Because she's posting about me and shit. Like, she's like posting like the dogs and all this stuff. And I'm like, okay, are you with me? What's she saying about you, though? She would say...

basically calling me a homewrecker. Oh, okay. Basically. And I had no idea. So you, I'm so confused though, because if he told her that he was going with a client, how are you a homewrecker? I don't know. Oh, I think I posted before. I think I posted in the morning, something like, like just using a sound and she thought it was about her, I think. So she posted something towards me and goes, she'd made a comment and it was like, we are, uh,

and his whole family knows it. And he's like kissing me in front of his parents. So I was like, okay, clearly she doesn't know. Those are the worst families. Like they just don't care. Yeah, the dude cheats. Your son literally has two girlfriends right now. What are you doing? Yeah, that's terrible. So we're at lunch, like we're chilling. Like I make smart remarks, but he's such a gaslighter. He would just like lie, like lie, lie, lie, lie, lie. And this motherfucker has passwords to all my shit.

log in to all my shit booking me shows why do you trust people so much i don't know stop fucking doing that man i know you have built a brand for yourself and you just hand it over to people i know here's the keys because that is nice just drive off with my shit be successful make money like me

So he I text the girl and I said hey, I don't know if you guys are together or whatever is going on I have no idea what's going on. But if you guys are together, he's cheating on you. That's all I'm gonna say She texted me a screenshot. He texted her that morning and said Post on your tiktok to beef with her get famous Get get clout and he said fuck her talk about me. Are you kidding me?

- Jeez. - He goes, "Use her for clout, beef with her so you can get famous and make fucking money." - Where did you meet this person? - He messaged me on Instagram and said, "Whitney!" - Whittney! - He said, "I wanna book you shows." So he booked me shows and then I started hanging out with him and I was like, "Shit, I'm bored."

I mean, he was attractive. Yeah, he's cute. Okay. But like, Whitney. You're not cute enough for me doing all that type of shit. You gotta stop, babe. You gotta really like, if you want to build something, you can't just have people DMing you and then handing over your shit to them. I know. So the whole point of the story was, that happened. I said, fuck you. I'm never talking to you again. Do not text me again. I call Tyler and I'm bawling my eyes out. He knows. He was not, he knows.

He goes, I'm so sorry. Like, you want me to help you book a flight? Like, I'll help you do whatever. And that's what I knew. I'm like, this motherfucker loves me. Like, what am I doing? I'm literally with another guy, and he's still talking to me. He loves me. So a week goes by. I think I flew to Bama first. I think I did first. Or he came to me. No, I don't know. My mind's gone. But yeah. And that's how... And he forgave me after all that. Aww. Which is...

Fucking crazy because I could never but he's he loves me and I think you guys love each other His family's getting a little better with me and I just it sucks because I basically made myself look fucking stupid because of how I felt without just being honest about it and like Could it just not I feel like everybody deserves a chance and you had your crash out and

Now you're not allowed to have another one. You got to just stay communicate. If you feel like you're going towards that feeling again, just be like, Hey man, I'm starting to feel like I did before. Yeah. And we need to figure out something together because now you guys are in a relationship together.

Figure the shit out as a couple. Instead of you feeling like you have to fight your battles all alone by yourself, do it with him. That's what a life partner is all about. Sometimes I don't understand that. It's just because I know people leave and people abandon, but he's so not like that. I don't know why. He's got good parents, it seems like. It's still in my head. He even told me before when we first almost broke up, he was like, I don't feel like your partner. I feel like your roommate. Because I would just...

He was just there. And like his stuff was in another room. Like it wasn't his room or his house. It was like I made him feel like a guest. You know what I'm saying? You're self-sabotaging because you're so afraid to get hurt that you're hurting people before they can hurt you. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

- Yeah, you gotta stop doing that. You gotta let love in, wit wit. Okay? Just let Tyler love you. You deserve to be loved. - I love him. He's my best friend. - I saw you whenever you weren't with him and I, you know. - I was a crush out. - Two different people. - Yeah. - You were just kind of like not yourself. - Yeah. I just like that he protects me too. Just everything, with everything. He wants to take everything that I have and make it his.

Like even my fucking dogs. Who the fuck has 15 dogs? Who the fuck has 15 dogs? I'm one up every time because I know when I get home, I'm going to get another one. No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Okay. Can we talk about this? What is going on with the 15 dogs? I love them. I've always grown up. I love dogs too. I don't know what it is, but I have like addiction. It's just like,

I see how much of a good life I can give them and I want to give it to all of them. Okay. So I get that, but don't you think you should have like a little like doggy sanctuary and not in a house? None of them jump in that pool like in. Oh, they do. But I have an assistant now. He's like my full time like roommate assistant. So she takes care of him every day. But yeah,

God, you couldn't pay me enough to take care of 15 dogs. That's a herd. She loves them. No. But they're easy. They're easy if I had three.

But I don't know. I just, what does that, what does that show? My strange addiction. That's what you should go on for the dog. I would have a hundred. Are you going to be like that with kids too? Just start popping kids out left and right. Maybe if they turn out looking like me, I will. They're going to be so cute. I think if you and Tyler have babies together, they're going to be beautiful babies. They're going to be short, but they're going to be cute. Oh, we stand a short King. I always forget. Tyler's kind of short. I think he's like,

I actually like tiny. Yeah, I'm small. So that's why when I see people online, like say stuff about your weight, I'm like, are they out of their minds? And they see me in person. That is the number one comment I get in person. You were so small.

you're thank you so tiny i'm like you could ask my weight and you can look up my weight and height i'm pretty sure it says five six you're not five six yeah i'm five one yeah i'm like there's no way you're yeah and you're like 200 pounds i'm like bro chill out who cares even if i was normally when people are five one they don't have a fucking shitter on that critter like you do so i think thanks mom

I think that's where people are, you know, get misconstrued. But anytime I see them trying to like shame you on your weight, I'm like, do they know how tiny this girl is? Like she is tiny, tiny. Yeah. They're always like, you're so small. Every single, every single person. You're either, you're so much hotter in person or you're really small.

I actually, I don't get you're so much hotter. Oh, I get you're prettier in person. Oh, you're even prettier in person. And I don't know how to take that. You're pretty in person. Fuck you. I don't know how to take that though. I'm like, thanks. I know. I'm like, am I ugly online? Do I look road hard and put away online? Like what the fuck is happening? Like I don't get it. And you're tall too. How tall are you? I'm about five, six, five, seven. Oh, okay. You're not that tall. I thought you were tall.

Well, I'm always in heels. So when I'm in heels, I'm like 5'10". You're still at it. Yeah. But today I've got the slides on. One more thing I wanted to talk to you about. And is there anything else that we missed in that whole debacle? I tried to get like the major. Other than Brie. Yeah. What happened with Brie? So she was like what? Your manager or assistant? She was just my best friend. I wanted her to make money. She did my OnlyFans. Like she was just.

Help me a lot. Are you still doing OnlyFans? Mm-hmm. Okay. Just not as much. I was doing it with, like, an agency, but I didn't sign anything, so I cut them off because it had something to do with the other manager, so I was like, I'm not going to be a social media. Yeah, stop fucking giving people access to your shit. I'm done. I'm done. How's OF doing for you? I feel like OF is, like, so part of the past now. I just don't. What pisses me off is that I don't want to do nude.

But it's all over the internet anyways. Yeah. So it just makes me, I don't feel my face. Did you hire that company that I told you about? Yes, but bro, they take down so many links, but there's so many. And there's nothing you can do about it. And it makes me so mad because I want to stop it because I want to be with Tyler and just be with Tyler. Well, if you stop it, the images will stop.

They're old. They're the same old ones. They're none of the new ones because my face isn't in anything. Other than I'm like, I don't sell tapes or anything anymore. So it's like I cut all that like the actual bad stuff off. Yeah. But like the best thing I ever did was give up my OF. Yeah. It was the scariest thing for me because it was a huge chunk of money for me for a month. And I do miss getting dressed up in lingerie and doing lingerie shoots. It actually turns me on.

Yeah. Well, getting dressed up and like being in front of the camera. Yeah. Because it's like you fall in love with yourself. I look hot. And it teaches you to be like sexy and like it's an outlet. Yeah. So I totally get that. Yeah.

It was the best thing I ever did because it opened up so many other doors for things. You don't realize how much OF hinders you until you get rid of it. And then all these opportunities start coming and they're like, well, we were just waiting for you to close your OnlyFans. And we're like, why didn't you fucking say something two years ago? You know, like, so, and what's crazy is God,

really blesses you when you start trying to do the right thing. And I know that sounds crazy, but I remember sitting in my backyard before I gave up my OF and I just prayed to God. And I was like, Lord, if I'm making the right decision, just please show me that I'm making the right decision. And I ended up like tripling my money. I've literally been doing that. And I'm like, Oh my God. I'm like, I'm like, I pray every night. I'm like,

It's because I think I have so much to pay for. So much because I went out of my way to get this huge house. I make money on Snapchat and stuff. But it's just a thought in my head knowing that I'm not going to have that. So I want something else to come in and replace it. It will once you close it. I want to do music. I want to fall in love. And Tyler is 100% affected by it. He tries not to say anything, but...

The one thing that he does say is like, why don't it's not that I don't respect myself. It's like, how is this so easy for you? Like, how do you just take pictures and make these videos and it just not affect you when it's online? And like, I always think about that. And I'm like, it does affect me. I just swallow it. Like, I literally just swallow it. It just like.

And I've seen so much stuff growing up with like prostitutes, with my dad, prostitutes and strippers and drugs and a bunch of these hoochie mamas show up and just twerk in front of me that nothing fazes me anymore. And it sucks because I am numb. Like I'm so numb to most of the stuff that I do. That's why it's so easy for me to like walk away from stuff like that. But yeah.

One thing I'm big on is drugs. I will never, ever, ever agree with that stuff. But I don't know. It's just I'm numb to it. And everybody always asks me, how do you not like...

Because I see like this fucking girl, Sophie Rain, 50 million? Yeah. Are you kidding me? I always think that those numbers are a little embellished. But I mean, it's, well, she also looks like a child. Yeah. She's got some. I want some knockers. But I'm scared. The problem is, is that, you know, the adult industry is so. So big now. It's so big, but it's also so gross because men want girls that look really young. I know, never stop.

Huh? It'll never stop. Oh no. Like that is like prostitution. I will not porn, but prostitution has been around since the biblical days, you know, and prostitution is a form of porn also. So I guess you could say, yeah, but I mean, it's been around since the biblical days, sex cells. So there's alcohol. So those two things are never going to go away. You just have to decide when it's going to go away in your life.

And I promise you when you, and I'm not preaching to you, 'cause you know, you guys know I support all my sex worker girlies. - No, but I've been thinking about this. - Yeah. - This is hitting me. - I support all my sex worker girlies and trust me, if I ever have to go back to OF, I will. If I, you know, like if I ever need to, you know, make a quick bag

And I get in a position to where I have to do that. I will definitely do it. But as for right now, like when you want to get rid of it, get rid of it and just know that you can always go back to it. Just see how it is for six months to a year without it and see how much your life changes and what blessings come in without it. Just so you don't have to have that, that it's like a feeling inside. Yeah. Of like, like every time I pray, this is so funny to talk about because this is, I've been thinking about this for so long. Every time I pray about it,

When I say like, you know, when you pray, you're like, Jesus, forgive me for my sins. That's immediately what I think about. Cause I'm literally doing exactly what I'm telling myself to forgive me for. And it's like, obviously like all sins are equal and we do the same stuff over and over again. It's like,

I'm literally still doing it. Like, why am I even asking for forgiveness if I'm still going to do it? My prayer was always, Lord, I know that I'm sinning right now, but I know you understand why. I used to try to gaslight Jesus. I'm like, I know, you know why I'm doing this right now. And then when I didn't have to pray that prayer anymore, I was like, that was kind of fucked up. I am so sorry. You know, like, but he loves you no matter what.

He loves you no matter what. And we're not here to preach to everybody. And the girls that have OFs at home, we understand. You never apologize for what you have to do to survive or what got you through to where you are today. I think that's why I'm still holding on because this made me where I'm at today. And it's, I mean, now if TikTok actually goes away, that'll definitely affect the advertisement of me because my, basically my...

is starting drama. And if I can't do that, what the fuck else am I going to do? Funnel that OF into Patreon. That's what I did.

You literally just get, it's like tit for tat. So it's like replacing this with that. And that's exactly what I did. Like ask Mimi and Patreon ended up paying triple what fucking OF was paying me. Once I got rid of OF, it was crazy. Like my Patreon just fucking blew up. So, I mean, just whenever you're ready, just know that you don't have to do that. And if you're ready to give it up and you want to give it up for Tyler, so you guys have a really good chance you can. And if it doesn't work, go back to it. It's like, it's that simple. Yeah.

You got this sister. Let's talk about your music. Cause you're doing really fucking good, man. And I would really like to see you pursue that because I feel like that is the real Whitney. When we see you on stage, smiling and performing for people. Every time I'm on stage, I get off and I'm like, let's do this again. Like it's, it feels like I'm flying when I'm, when I'm on stage. And I, when I started to like get on stage and realize that,

how good I actually am and can be. I was so, that's my, that was my number one biggest insecurity ever was singing in front of people. And I still like now, if you'd have been like, sing for me, I still probably wouldn't. But like, that was the biggest insecurity for me is singing in front of people. I don't know why. I think I'm just, I obsess over how good singing

Certain people are that I'm not that and I don't sound like that. But like I do, I love singing. I love dropping music. I definitely want to get to where I am writing my own music because right now it's just from my, my songwriter. So it's not, it doesn't hit as hard. And I'm very, I really want to do ballads. Like I re I want to sing like,

Like Jesse, the climb. Yeah. Like I love like Jesse Murph. Yeah. Like Avery Anna, like a lot of those girls. It's just hard because I don't live here. I feel like Jesse sings more than ballads though. She's always doing like some sort of like she's too. She's. And Tate McCrae.

- Don't even get me started. - Tate McCray is, I fucking love Tate. - I would marry her. - Bro. - So mom. - She is gorgeous. Like she is so fucking gorgeous dude. And she's got swag. And she's got fucking just-- - Her dancing and her hair and her face, she's just hot. - Her work ethic is insane, dude. Like whenever you see that girl, she's working.

Like you don't ever see her on an off day. I'm just, I'm just obsessed with her. We love you. Yeah. Come on the podcast. So I could just stare at you for two hours. I love that. But yeah, no, I do. I do love music. I just, I don't like, okay. So when I know, I think of music, I think,

I know what a lot of people have put like so much work into their music like and doing so much to get where they're at yeah I hate using other people I'm very I want to do this on my own so like I want to build myself up and like in the music industry you have to like use each other and I hate that because I just want to that's why I've been doing it all on my own like

I got used the first fucking song. Fuck you, by the way, if you're watching this. Are you talking about the dude that fucking did this? Yes. I still never got the money for my song.

God. You know what it is, Whitney? You are just so anxious to do that you don't... Like, I'm like this every day. Yeah, but you don't care to fucking vet these people who are offering the things that they're offering. And you're just going in one bad deal after another. And then all these people just know that they can get clicks and views off your name. So it's like...

You know, you have to protect yourself a little bit more and you need to have somebody who actually is really protecting you. Maybe Tyler could be like in a management position for you too. He loves, he wants to. Yeah. I feel like Tyler would protect you, but working with your significant other is very hard. Okay. Jay and I did that. Boundaries for sure. Yeah. Jay and I did that for the longest time and I am so happy he has his own team and I don't know what the fuck he's doing. Like you have no idea. Like when you're,

Live together, sleep together and work together. It's a lot. So just know that if you guys aren't strong, that could come in between you two also. Yeah.

But definitely you need to keep pursuing this music career. Cause when you drop, you chart every time. A lot of people don't get that, you know? So you definitely have something special. - I just wanna write my own music so it means more to me. So it makes me wanna drop more. - So start writing. What are you waiting for? - I don't live here. So like everybody that wants to write with me wants me to write up here.

And like I do like Zooms just doesn't count like for me. Just like. So why don't you do like once a week, once a month to come to Nashville for a week and just sit in writer's rooms? I just don't know anybody. Hello? Well, okay, you guys. I'm like, hello? All right, dude, that'd be fun. Oh, dude. You want to write dirty Christmas songs? I got you.

Hell yeah. I got you. We could write a fucking Dirty Christmas song, right, baby? Does Jelly write his own songs? He does. He does. And a lot of people... It's the funniest thing because people are like, Jelly sold out when he signed his record deal. He doesn't write his own music. My husband writes every fucking song. He has writers in the room with him that help, but... Why does it matter, though? So does every fucking body else that fucking writes hits. They have...

It's like you're sitting around with your friends. Yeah, it's not people that are just going in there that aren't your friends. It's like a group of people that are just hanging out saying like, this is a fucking, let's do this here and let's do, you know, it's a vibe. But I mean, even without Nashville, you can start writing by yourself and writing songs. It's just like the ADHD in me doesn't let me just sit down and think and like, I could definitely write.

For sure. It's just like the beats and the words. It's just, it just seems like more of a bigger task than it actually is. Yeah. Because when I was younger, I used to just sit on it because I can play the piano. So I used to just sit on the piano and like make up my own stuff. But I haven't really done that because I don't have like

I don't have a time to just sit down. Well, you've got 15 dogs. Yeah. You know, I can buy a piano and try to sit down and maybe I asked for one for my birthday from Tyler and he was going to give me one, but then he canceled it because we broke up maybe for like an hour a day for 2025 or an hour a week, even if that, if an hour a day is too much and just sit down and say, I'm going to play the piano and write for an hour a week. And that's how you start.

And then eventually come to Nashville, start doing like a week or even a day. Come here for like 24, 48 hours. Do that. Like just make a game plan. That's all you got to do. You know, you have the means and the ambition to do it. You just have to hone it in. Yeah. Well, is there anything else you want to talk about my love?

I feel like I just vented. Good. You feel better? Yeah. That's all that matters. I think I need therapy for sure. Yeah, that's all that matters. And maybe you and Tyler should go to therapy too to learn how to cope with each other. That'd be good. Teamwork makes the dream work, you know?

Thank you for coming. Thanks for having me. Why don't you tell everybody where they can find you? If they don't already know where to find you. You can find me anywhere, really. All over Google. Don't point them in that direction. Yeah, don't look it up. They're all going to look it up right now. On all platforms. Snapchat, WhitneyRuns7.

I do have a Patreon, Talk Shit With Wit. We'll see how much longer that's going to go on. I get bored by myself. And also another thing, I don't know how you get guests here all the time. I just don't have the energy. It's a lot of work. People don't realize a podcast is a lot. And then when they don't show up, then they like, ugh, it's just like so much work. It's a lot. And I don't have like an assistant for that still. So I had one. She quit. You'll get it together. Yeah.

I have my toe in a lot of things. Yes. You're a Gemini, right? No, I'm a Leo. You're a Leo? Why did I think you were a Gemini this whole time? Leo, what, August? August what?

Oh, you're smack dab, Leo. That's why you're such a lover. That's why you're emotional as fuck, too. Yeah, I'm also an animal. You're a lion, baby. I love it. Tell everybody bye for us. Love you. Thanks for having me. Love you. Bye. I watched Dumb Blonde. Aw. See you guys next week. Bye.