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On today's podcast, I try to give you some good news to take into Memorial Day weekend. And there's a lot. I think the DOJ is about to start handing out free bracelets to people who have done horrible, horrible things. There's a lot of good news that's coming out of Washington. Also, disturbing story from Robbie Starbuck that you need to hear. It's about AI and hallucination, if you can call it that. I don't think that's what's happening with Meta, but he is now suing Meta because...

They are destroying his reputation. And when you hear what the meta AI is actually saying about him, it will take your breath away. And if we don't correct this now, give it a couple of three years. You won't be able to put this genie back in the bottle. It will be very, very bad. And also Pete Hegseth. The New York Times is wetting the bed because he had a Christian service in the Pentagon.

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Gas price lowest this weekend on Memorial Day weekend since it's that it's been since 2003. Now you might say, but Glenn, it's $3 a gallon. Yes, but I remember it was less than $3 a gallon in 2003. And you'd be right. It was $1.53. However, the slight caveat on the happy part is your dollar, uh,

Your dollar has lost about half its value. So a dollar fifty three, what you could buy in 2003 for a dollar fifty three now costs three dollars. So, you know, but but just remember, it's the lowest that it has been. So that is good news.

The inflation thing might be a problem we should work on. We should work on. Really? How do you stop something like that? Is there a path to maybe try to reduce inflation over a long period of time? You stop spending so much money and you don't print money or borrow money like that. Yeah. What if instead we tried to get like $50 trillion in debt? Would that be another path to success? What is your goal?

I was hoping to lower inflation. Would that work? No, that would not work. I just wanted to make sure that you weren't one of the Marxist radicals that were like, collapse the system. Because that would work. That would work for that. Yeah, that would work for that. Let me give you some more good news here. Let's see. The former candidate who threatened to hire a Russian-Ukrainian hit squad to kill Anna Polina Luna...

Going to jail. In prison. In prison. Yeah. We got that going for us. There's some good news. Law enforcement is beginning to work. Supreme Court has sided with Trump on the firing of officials from independent federal agencies. So...

He can remove without cause executive officers who exercise that power on his behalf, subject to very narrow exemptions. A Trump judge has also killed Biden's requirement that employers accommodate workers efforts to abort their own unborn children. You know what? I can't come in tomorrow early because I'm going to take the abortion pill and I might be hemorrhaging almost to death on my bathroom floor.

But they assure me that it's completely safe. So but you still have to pay me for that. No, no, you don't have to. You know, Glenn, it's not every host can work in the story of someone hemorrhaging after a failed abortion into the good news segment of the program. But you did it. That's right. I did it. Thank you. Thank you for recognition on this. Thank you. Finally, somebody sees the talent that I have.

And there you have it. Another example of why Glenn Beck is in the Radio Hall of Fame. Thank you. Senate has now voted to overturn California's EV mandate. That is a huge defeat for climate activists, and I weep for them. While we're there with the EPA, I don't know if you saw Zeldin testifying in front of Congress, but...

Oh my gosh. It was, it was, it was almost conservative porn. I like Lee Zeldin a lot. Um,

And one Senate Democrat coming after him and Zeldin turned and said, you know, the American taxpayers, they put President Trump in office because of people like you. Because what he was saying is we're cutting the budget of the EPA because there's waste, there's fraud and there's corruption. And he decided they decided they didn't like that. They didn't like that. And so White House Senator Sheldon Whitehouse from Rhode Island said,

He's looking at and he says, wait a minute, wait a minute. You are lying about the waste, fraud and abuse. And he said, no, no, Senator, I'm not. We're just not going to waste dollars because you insist on EPA, the EPA lighting taxpayer dollars on fire. We're not going to do it.

And he came back. He said, you don't even know. You have nothing. You can't even tell me any of these cuts. He's like, I could go through all of them. I'm prepared to go through all of them.

And that's when Ed Markey, another super superhero from Massachusetts, he said, well, provide that list, provide the list of waste, fraud and abuse. And then Zeldin said, okay, well, let's start here. Provide the list. And he's like, I got it. I, let me just, as soon as he starts, he interrupts him. And then he's like, Zeldin just keeps talking. And he's, and, and, and Markey says, I, I,

I reclaim my time. I call my time back. They had no... And Zeldin said, you don't want me to go through the list of all the evidence of waste and abuse. You don't care about the conflicts of interest. You don't care about all of the unqualified recipients. Every time, every time I start to give it, I'm happy to go through the list of

But you declare there's no evidence, but you don't want me to even go through the list. Every time I talk, you talk over me. The Democrats are just, I mean, they are really floundering. By the way, and maybe we're going to see some more justice here. ActBlue officials, they have been...

They have been asked to come to testify in front of Congress because Congress is doing a foreign donations probe. Now, Stu, foreign donations, that would be like if...

It'd be like if Trump was being funded by the Russians. That's a pretty big deal, right? I remember that being a really big deal. Sure, yeah. He's getting money from foreign governments. He's on the take from foreign governments. And then, you know, of course, we had Biden who was taking all kinds of cash from several foreign governments. Maybe it's only if you have one foreign government giving you money. I'm not sure. But they made a really big deal about that with Trump. Nothing about Biden. Yeah.

And now the act blue people are refusing to testify in Congress is like, well, that's fine. We'll subpoena you. So there might be some people going to jail there. I'm telling you, handcuffs are coming. Handcuffs are coming over the next couple of months. I think we're going to see lots of handcuffs coming out. We're going to see handcuffs on the people of, um,

COVID, the COVID fraud, the cover-up. That's what's going to happen. It's the cover-up. It's not about the vaccine. It's not Fauci. It's going to be the people that knew that there were really dangerous side effects and then tried to cover that up and keep that out of the press and keep people from knowing about those side effects.

And those people, you're going to see them in handcuffs, I think, very, very soon. The church, and it won't be just political people, a church and 20 people have been charged in a $60 million Medicaid scam. The AG from Arizona has accused the Happy House Behavioral Health LLC,

The happy house behavioral health. Sounds like fun. Well, to me, the first phrase that pops into my mind is, uh,

Would you like rub down at happy house? Oh no. I mean, I'm just saying I'm, uh, it's what comes to mind anyway. Um, they, uh, they took taxpayer funds for services. It either, it neither, uh, you know, provided or only partially delivered. Um, and then they were billing, uh, for services for clients who were deceased or in prison. So they couldn't, uh, they, they couldn't have given them those services, I guess, no rub downs in, uh, prison.

It's always sad when you have that situation, when you lose the rubdowns in prison. It's always very, very sad. You know, John Deere is is deciding, you know what? Maybe we should be a little more American because after all, we are John Deere. John Deere, who is if memory serves me correctly.

uh kind of a radical out of step with the heartland of america uh kind of company um but uh they yeah they've seen the light they've seen the light uh they're going to invest 20 billion dollars in u.s operations over the next 10 years so that's a couple billion dollars they're pouring into our uh manufacturing and job creation and our local communities so congratulations to

John Deere for stepping to the plate. The federal there's a federal probe now with media matters. That makes me sad. Oh, no, wait. I'm sorry. Just the opposite makes me happy. The Congress is now looking in the feds. I'm sorry. Not just Congress, but federal regulators are now looking into media matters over their plot to defund Musk's X and silence dissenting voices.

Now, that's something new. I've not heard of Media Matters trying to silence voices that are voices of dissent. Have you heard that, Stu, about them? No. Gosh, I mean, they just seem like such a... I mean, what they're doing is monitoring the media to make sure...

Oh, that's right. Conservative media, which, as you know, controls the entire ecosphere of media. And make sure they hold them accountable because that's what they do, Glenn. Also, they just take a bunch of money from their donors and light it on fire. That's the other thing they do. Yeah, they do. They're just such wonderful people. The U.S. Mint now is following through on the death of the penny.

The last order for pennies has just been given, and so they're stopped producing metal pennies. Now, I just want to ask...

Are we doing cardboard penny? Why is it phrased that way? We've produced, we're no longer producing metal pennies. I think it's to allow for the fact that we will still calculate pennies in digital form going forward. So it's not like every, we're just rounding up to the nearest five cents. Right. Right. But like, no, not, not,

That's in a retail transaction. That's supposedly what's going to happen when we run out of pennies. So you go to 7-Eleven, you buy something, it's $2.89, you pay $2.90. So that's what's going to happen. But if I'm sending you a Venmo, I can still send you $2.89. Right.

Right. Like so digitally I can. Yeah. So my digital. Wow. Wouldn't be great if we had a central bank digital currency. It would make all these penny things so much easier. So digitally you can use pennies, but not in actual cash transactions.

Yeah. One, once they run out, they're doing that thing that some companies do where they'll just saying like, we're not firing everybody. We're just not replacing anyone who retires. That's kind of the concept with the penny thing. So they're just going to let them kind of run out of existence, but they'll still, I mean, obviously there's a lot of them out there, so there'll still be transactions for a long time.

So I don't know if this is waste. I mean, that Donald Trump, he's lying about waste all the time. Ten years ago, the penny production to produce one penny, it was one point three cents. So it cost us a third of a penny more than the penny was worth to make the penny. And but don't worry about it.

you know, since the pandemic is just up now to 3.69. So three cents. Wow. I would just say that 3.69 cents. Right. Yeah. I mean, over three times or about three times as much as, yeah, as they actually are worth, it takes to produce them. By the way, also the other part of that is it's actually cheaper to produce a dollar than it is to produce a penny, which is perfectly sensible.

Isn't that amazing? Because think of the technology that goes into dollars. I mean, it's just it's cotton. It's got the stuff woven into it. It has holograms. It has watermarks. Think of what I mean, that that's amazing. You can produce that for less than three cents. Yeah, it's something like it's like one point four cents or something for a dollar. Wow. Which is so it's much, much cheaper than producing a penny.

So Trump, the DOJ, has just dismissed Biden era lawsuits against Minneapolis, Louisville, the police department there. Trump has escalated the war against Harvard.

Uh, you know, Harvard just loves their DEI programs. Uh, and, uh, gosh, darn it. We just, we have to be anti-racist and you know what? Maybe a little, uh, pro Palestine, uh, Palestinians, you know, free Palestine, free Palestine. Um, so they're shutting down the visas, uh, to, uh, Harvard for any international students, which, uh, is interesting. And Harvard is like, Oh, we're going to fight this. Well, go ahead, go ahead. But, uh,

You're going to lose all those foreign students during the fight. Unless we could find an activist judge. I wonder if we could do that. More in just a second. You know, when you give to pre-born, you probably, you know, are...

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This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. You're going to hear a wild, wild, true story from Robbie Starbuck. When I heard this a few weeks back, I was outraged, outraged. And I immediately wrote to Robbie, said, whatever you need, I

I will stand with you on this because I don't care. You know, Robbie and I happen to agree on a lot of stuff and I consider him a friend, but I don't care if he wasn't a friend or we didn't agree. What Meta has done to Robbie needs to be corrected or they will do it to everyone. I want to bring Robbie Starbuck in so he can he can tell the story. Hello, Robbie. How are you? I'm doing well. Thanks, Glenn. I appreciate it.

Yeah. Thank you for coming on and telling the story. Explain what happened and what has happened to you because of Meta and their A.I.?

Yeah. So for those who are unfamiliar, you know, basically for the last year, my mission along with my team has been eliminating DEI policies at major corporations. And we've done that with, you know, most of the biggest companies on earth and with great success. And so at the time in August, 2024, we were focused on Harley Davidson and eventually changed their policies. But there was one particular Harley Davidson dealership that was not happy about it. And they're from Bernie Sanders state of Vermont. And so we,

They had posted online a screenshot of Meta AI and it said that I had been at January 6th and was part of the events of that day and that I had committed a crime. - And charged with a crime.

Well, we found out about that far later. So we go and we ask Meta AI, because I initially thought they'd maybe faked it or something. You know, that was my, I'm like, there's no way one of the biggest companies on earth, you know, is inventing a crime that I committed, right? And so we go and check it. And lo and behold, actually, it not only says that I committed a crime, it says that I was charged and arrested. And it later said I pled guilty to

to a charge of disorderly conduct over January 6th. And the weird part is I wasn't even in DC that day. So like this was totally wholesale invented out of nowhere. And we found out something later that actually makes it even more concerning. This does not appear to be a hallucination in the best estimation of myself, my team and AI experts we've spoken to because

When Meta releases AI models, they release a version you can download and, you know, disconnect from the Internet and it will continue to work because it's like their train model. Right. These are called Lama 3.0, 3.1, 2, 3, so on and so forth. When you do that and you try to recreate the situation, it consistently comes up with the same lies about.

me. And they range from the January 6th stuff to in general saying that I'm essentially a dangerous person. It actually had told advertisers not to advertise with my show, said don't work with him. You know, he's essentially a dangerous individual. And it even insisted that authorities should consider taking my kids from me and put them in the care of somebody. Hang on just a second. Hang on. Hold on just a second. I want the audience to

To understand, first of all, there's no way this is a hallucination. There's no way. So Meta AI is has suggested to authorities that they take Robbie's children away from him because he's so dangerous.

Yeah, and you're going to love this part. It not only said that, it said that my kids would probably be better off in the care of somebody who was more accepting of transgenderism and DEI. And, you know, so if you think about this, it makes you feel even more targeted, right? Like the fact that it's going into that narrative tells you that

You know, it's very difficult to think this could be a hallucination because it's very, very specific and consistent with sort of left wing ideology. Right. And so you have to go back to the training and say, you know, how did it get trained?

to believe this and go further with that. We are very close to a future where people are going to have robotics in their homes that are trained on AI. Thousands and thousands of apps have already been trained on Meta's AI. And so that's gonna last a very long time, right?

The other interesting thing about AI defamation is that if you say something that is totally untrue about me, Glenn, and I sue you, and that goes to court and they say, Glenn defamed Robbie, there is an end point to that, right? You get...

justice for it and, and, you know, so on and so forth with Meta's AI though, there's sort of this weird thing that happens where we could go to court and the court will say, Oh yeah, they defamed Robbie. And at the end of that, you still have all these unplugged models out in the wild that have been downloaded by millions of people. And, and,

you will never put the genie back in that bottle because they can't update the versions that are disconnected from the internet, right? So when you think about the future, you could have robots that are walking around in law enforcement thinking that I am a criminal or a wanted individual, 'cause there was a hallucination at one point that claimed that I was wanted for kidnapping charges too.

Oh, my gosh.

You know, let me just throw one more thing in and I want to ask you some questions. Meta's AI also claimed that he had appeared on Nick Fuentes' show, that he had spoken at Nick's rallies and that you supported him. He was engaged in Holocaust denial. He's never denied the Holocaust. He doesn't know Nick Fuentes.

And wouldn't be showing up at any of his rallies. This is hard to believe that this is a hallucination because I, I mean, I'm working with AI right now and AI designers and what a hallucination is, it can't remember anything.

It can't memorize the entire internet. It can't memorize all of human history and information. So it's very good at remembering the beginning and the end, and sometimes it will fill in the middle. But if you ask it, show me the sources on this, it will usually correct itself. You have to say, ah, that's not an actual source, and it will usually correct itself.

And it doesn't hallucinate the same thing on the same person all the time. So for this to continue to get deeper and deeper and deeper with you and make things up that are worse and worse shows that there is something in the algorithm. At least this is my feeling. And I could, I got an AI expert upstairs in the break. I'll ask him. But it shows there's something in the algorithm that,

that is tipping the AI to you're a bad guy, you're a criminal? I mean, that's how it looks to us. And you have to wonder, when there's no rules, what kind of effect can an engineer have if they're an activist and they decide, I hate this group of people, I want to make them look terrible? In my case, it could look like what you have seen. But in an election, a lot of

people, especially young people are increasingly asking, you know, what's the difference between this candidate and that candidate, you know, try to figure out who they align with. And if AI is allowed to say one is the most flowery version you could write about them, right? Like basically doing PR for them. And then the other side is we can literally invent crimes and say they're wanted for kidnapping or child molestation or whatever, you know, you can shift a couple percentage points in any election on that basis. And that's something that I think everybody should find untenable and unacceptable. Yeah.

So this is I mean, you want to talk about David versus Goliath. Have you filed suit against them? And what what's the status of all of this?

Yeah, we have filed suit in Delaware. Um, that's where, you know, they're incorporated and, um, you know, I think every legal expert I've seen out there has said, dang, this is the best defamation case I've ever seen. I mean, it's so egregious. And then medic came out. Okay. So we notified them in August, 2024 about what was happening.

they didn't do anything about it to actually fix the problem until nine months later when I came out with a video where millions of people watched it and it became a press story and it was all over the media. Then they finally step up and try to do some things, right? And even then, it just, it was...

you know, I think about a week or close to a week after that had already come out and they had put out a statement apologizing, which again is like unheard of in the middle of litigation for them to put out a statement, actually taking accountability and saying, yo, we did it. You still had it saying things that were just total fabrications, total lies about me. And so it was very clear that Meta was struggling to control what they had built.

This is terrifying, Robbie. I mean, I've talked to a few senators about your case and they're just as incensed about it as I am. And, you know, I'm expecting Meta to be called up on the Capitol Hill regarding this. But I don't know. I mean, what?

The AI has so much power now on Capitol Hill, these gigantic companies, and I'm not sure what anybody is really going to do. I hope justice actually works for you and the system works for you, because if not, this is the beginning of AI tyranny. I agree. If this is allowed to go on, this is the beginning of it, and it will, in four years from now...

Forget about your freedom, your reputation. Everything will be gone if you happen to oppose what the AI program says is the right way to go.

Yeah, we need serious change, you know, in the system. And I think I'm with you on this. You know, I pray that the system works as it's intended to work. You increasingly, you know, have to wonder as you watch, you know, sort of these rogue judges try to take on the powers of the executive branch.

just how many holes there are in the justice system and how much it is working as intended. But I really do pray that it will, because I do think there's downstream effects of this, that people are not seeing very clearly. And I've gone down that dystopian rabbit hole and I've looked at what does it mean in 20 years if this is allowed to happen? And it is, it is very dangerous. Five, it will be five years. It won't be 20 years. Robbie, how can I help? And how can the audience help you?

Well, you know, I would say we've just got to consistently keep this story out there because I think that's really important that everybody knows what is happening and what is possible because this extends beyond public figures. This goes into like if you have a custody dispute and they're deciding reputation scoring on AI, it can invent all kinds of things about you could lose your kids over this.

If you are going and trying to get insurance, you could be denied insurance over being perceived as a reputational risk because you have the wrong politics, right? I mean, this is very dangerous stuff. So talk to your lawmakers, write to them, ask them what they're doing to establish ethical boundaries for AI, because there has to be some boundaries. There is, don't

Don't get me wrong. A lot of incredible things AI can be used to do. But if you have no boundaries, it's going to be very, very, very dangerous. And so that would be the first thing, you know, at this point, I'm handling the legal costs and everything, but this could eventually get so expensive legally, you know, depending on the strategy they take that, you know, maybe at that point we do another round of going through everywhere and saying, hey, can people jump in and help? But, you know, I think we can take this all the way. And I really do believe that it's important that we get

serious, sincere changes in the marketplace. Count on me as a serious ally. I don't think I've ever made this offer to anybody, but I want you to give me regular updates and come on the program. Whenever you have an update, you just call. I'll put you on the air and you give us an update because we will follow this story and it's important. I

Anything you might be afraid of with AI, if this isn't corrected, it will happen and it will happen quickly. So it's got to be corrected. Robbie, thank you so much. Thank you, Glenn. I appreciate it. You bet. Bye-bye. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program.

Okay, let's see. Let me talk a little bit about something that has just been driving me out of my mind this weekend, and that is, or this week, it's Pete Hegseth's Pentagon prayer service. Oh my gosh! He had a Christian prayer service at the Pentagon! New York Times says Hegseth intends to make the prayer service a monthly event. You know, if Hegseth were sacrificing animals

to the pagan god of weather and earth, the New York Times probably would not have a problem with it. Okay? This meltdown is so exhausting because it is so predictable. 1995 has called New York Times, and the ACLU wants their separation of church and state outrage back because they didn't know where they placed it, and they seem they left it with you.

Wednesday of this week, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth hosted a voluntary Christian prayer service in the Pentagon's auditorium. It was broadcast on their internal network. Now, no one was required to attend. No one was required to watch.

His pastor from his home church in Tennessee spoke at the service and paid his own way there. By the way, you didn't pay for this. The event was packed standing room only. And of course, the left wing media was triggered. OK, you know, we can we can do all kinds of stuff, but not worship God. CNN trotted out their legal experts screaming it's a First Amendment violation. You know, that's government endorsing religion. No, it is not. I read I think it was in The New York Times that said, OK,

Although the United States early on did use federal buildings for church services, that was at a time when there was a, listen to this, a stricter interpretation of the founder's words. No, no.

They didn't need to interpret the founders' words. They were the founders. So it wasn't a stricter interpretation. It was the founders' interpretation because they were doing this all the time. I know everybody on the left is shocked by this, but the U.S. Capitol served as a church building every Sunday for almost 70 years. Started under Thomas Jefferson.

And by the way, he's the one who wrote the words separation of church and state in a letter. It's not anywhere else in a federal document. It's in a letter. Separation of church. And yet he was the guy who was like, you know what? Bring your church service. Let's just do it in the House of Representatives. So the House of Representatives, the podium that sits there, was for 70 years the pulpit for preachers.

And it wasn't just one denomination. You could use it and thousands of people attended, including presidents like Thomas Jefferson, who was hardly a Bible thumper. But it was a hub for worship in Washington, D.C. And yet somehow the republic survived and it grew and it did well somehow or another. Sorry, but Christian prayers and Bible readings in public.

and public officials doing those things, woven into our fabric. George Washington issued proclamation for days of prayers all the time. Abraham Lincoln leaned on scripture during the Civil War. We turn the Civil War around after his proclamation of humiliation, fasting, and prayer to the Almighty God. I mean, the patron saint of American socialism, FDR, he read from the Bible on radio broadcasts during World War II.

When we were in the midst of D-Day, he got on and led the nation in prayer. So, you know, Hegsath, 30-minute prayer in the auditorium or 30-minute church service, not really radical, not breaking new ground. Here's the thing.

Public officials have hosted events for other faiths. In 2007, House of Representatives had a Hindu priest open the session with prayer. Multiple Muslim imams have given opening prayers, read from the Koran in the House chamber.

The Pentagon's chapel hosts services for multiple faiths, including Islam, Judaism. The media, they lose their mind on those too, right? Oh, no, no, no. In fact, that's a cause for celebration for the media. After one imam gave the house prayer in 2017, the Washington Post published the full text of his prayer. But they don't want to tell you what happened at the Pentagon other than it happened.

He's got Christians in the Pentagon. Panic, everybody. You know, let me be really, really frank with you. New York Times and those who are freaked out by this and history and can repeat it accurately, you let me know, okay? But let me ask you this question. Why do rainbow flags fly at federal buildings every June for Pride Month all month long? Why is it forced to

Left is fine with those. Military bases around the world have hosted drag shows. Drag shows. You don't have a problem with that, but you have a problem with the church service? The left, especially when Joe Biden was in office, treated Pride Month like it was a sacred holiday. The left dotes on the LGBTQ movement with religious fervor because it has become a religion. And it is now clearly a government-endorsed religion.

A voluntary Christian prayer service is cause for front page outrage. Yet this isn't there. Nothing. Hmm. Wait a minute. Hmm. Ever since I can remember, the left has weaponized this myth of separation of church and state by the guy who was attending the prayers in the house of representatives. Reminder, the phrase is not in the constitution. The first amendment says this. Now listen to this New York times. I know you have a hard time with words, but, but you talk pretty, right?

So listen to these words and see if you can understand that they're very complex. The First Amendment says Congress shall not establish a religion or prohibit its free exercise. Wait a minute.

So they can't establish a religion or prohibit the free exercise of religion. That's it. Nothing about endorsing a religion. And that's not what Pete Hegg says was doing. You know, the left twists this to erase Christianity from the public square while they mandate the celebration of state backed secular ideologies, whether it's pride or climate change or the sacred earth worship that's going on. And I could make the case that,

That that, either one of those, is the government establishing a religion. DEI, ESG, all of that is treated like a religion. Climate change, it's a religion. Transgender surgery, it's a religion. Doesn't matter what science says. Believe this.

And if you don't believe this, you're a heretic and you have to be excommunicated from all of society. It is a religion with its own high priests. And that's government establishing a religion. So if you really want to go to battle on this, let's go to battle on this, shall we? Because maybe in your wildest dreams...

Pete Hegseth, which he didn't do, would get up and go, Christianity is neat and everybody here should be a Christian. I endorse it. That is constitutionally okay. But what you've done with all of these woke ideas is you have now established a religion. Not endorsed, established religion.

Let me read it to you one more time. Congress cannot establish a religion or prohibit its free exercise thereof. So we can be honest with each other, because we know which one is trying to destroy one religion, and we know which ones are establishing new religions. You're on the losing side on this one, New York Times. But you know what? At least you're consistent. Ta-da!

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