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You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program. I'm a very, very lucky man. Every day I get to work with two of my best friends, Stu and Pat. Pat's joining us from Pat Gray Unleashed. And Pat, it was 14 years ago today that I announced I was leaving Fox News and starting GBTV. That's incredible.

You were there. Stu was there. I mean, remember how scared we were of that? Oh, yeah. That's a pretty big deal. This is suicide. What are we doing? You couldn't even stream video yet. Like it was... I know, right? It was insane. Everything buffered. I mean, I...

Uh, we're, we have some audio from the press when I announced this and said, you know, we're mocking me and saying, you know, good luck on the internet. Cause nobody was, I mean, it was weirdos that were doing podcast. I mean, it's still weirdos doing podcasts, but it was weirdos doing podcasts at the time. There weren't, there weren't, the podcasts were not like they are now. Uh, and nobody was streaming video. That was insane. Live streaming video. Uh,

And my goal then, 14 years ago, was to crack the back of the mainstream media and give other voices a chance to be heard. And look at the mainstream media now.

Glenn, I pitched you in the break a story I wanted to do for you and Pat. Can we do it now? Because it fits with what we're talking about. Sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So there's a story that I think years and years ago would have been a major story. Like we would have been talking about it maybe over multiple days. We would have been dissecting it. We would have been going back in the history of it. And I don't think either one of you even know it occurred.

Really? Wow, what does that mean? In fact, I was looking through the prep. I didn't see it in the prep at all. Literally zero reaction whatsoever, which I think 10 years ago, 15 years ago, would have been a big story that we would have been talking a lot about. Any ideas of what it could be? No. So last night, last night,

They debuted a new permanent anchor of NBC Nightly News. Oh, yeah. Oh, my gosh. Wow, that's right. I didn't know that. That would have been a story 10 years ago. It would have been a huge thing, right? Nobody even knows it happened. Nobody even knows it. I don't even know who they replaced. I don't either. Well, they replaced...

You know him. I do. Lester Holt. Lester Holt. Lester Holt. Lester Holt. Okay, yeah. But I don't know who they replaced him with. I do, because they looked it up. Tom Yamas. Oh, of course, Tom Yamas. Tom Yamas. Tom Yamas. Tom Yamas. Tom Yamas. Yeah, Tom Yamas. Yeah, yeah. Tom Yamas. Of the Yamas family. Of the Yamas group, yeah. The NBC Yamases. NBC Yamases. Yes. I have to tell you...

I want to thank this audience. You have been with me from the beginning. I meet people all the time. They're so proud. They're like, I was one of the founding members. I was there. I mean, people were subscribed six months before we even had a product. And I just can't thank you enough.

enough for everything you did. Look at what you've accomplished with Blaze. Yeah. Look at the impact that Blaze, Blaze paved the way for Daily Wire, for all of it. Yeah. For all of it. Megan Kelly, Tucker Carlson. Right. This was the one that paved the way and I,

I can't thank you enough. Mission accomplished. Mission accomplished. I mean, and think about, because it was totally unrelated, had no idea it was the 14-year anniversary of this, but I was going to bring that story up to you. It is the exact thing you were talking about back then, that we're going to get to a period where none of this matters. None of what the mainstream media doing even matters. The NBC, Tom Brokaw, NBC Nightly News, it was a thing that,

Everyone watched every night. It's now so irrelevant. I think nobody in this audience had any idea that they had just switched permanent anchors of that. That is an institution in this country. And now it's a giant zilch. And a lot of it comes to do with the transition, Glenn, you tried to start 14 years ago.

what do you mean tried to start i think we did and failed my gosh all of a sudden he's demeaning trying not to i don't like giving you credit for things so i i do think that was a big part of it and you guys i just i wanted to say not only thank you to the audience but thank you i'm gonna i'm not gonna get teary-eyed on this you guys have been with me through war it seems and you have always been loyal to me always watch my back you are

True friends, and I can't thank you enough for all of the years that you've been with me. Thank you.

Same to you. Keep going because your voice is starting to waver, and I sense a total breakdown any second now. Let me play something now from CNN, which just shows you how out of touch they are. Look at the veteran pollster from CNN as he's going through the latest polling about Republicans and Democrats. Listen to this.

The first five months of the Donald Trump presidency, right, the first four months of the Donald Trump presidency, that you expect that Democrats are at this massive lead on the economy.

It ain't so. It ain't so. The party that is closest to your economic views, in November of 2023, it was the Republicans by 11 points. Now it's still within that range, still within that margin of error, plus eight point advantage for the Republican Party. How is that possible, Democrats? How is that possible? If it was just this one CNN poll, that would be one thing. But take a look at Reuters, Ipsos. What do we see here? Party with a better economic plan. Well, in May of 2024, just before Donald Trump was reelected president, Republicans had a nine point advantage.

Look at where we are now in May of 2025. The advantage actually went up by three points. The Democrats are down by 12 points on the economy. This speaks to Democratic problems on the economy better than basically anything that you could possibly look at.

Okay, stop. He's then trying to explain this is a problem for the Democrats, but he doesn't even understand how that's happening. I mean, I don't understand how he doesn't understand. He's like, "How is this possible, Democrats, that they have a better economic plan and people are liking it?" I don't know what is the Democratic economic plan.

What is that plan? You can read it in a book by Marx. You know, here's the, I mean, he answers his own question here. Play the next cut. Listen.

Which is the party of the middle class has been a huge advantage for Democrats. I have polling from NBC going all the way back since 1989 when Democrats had a 23-point advantage. 2016, a 17-point advantage. But by this decade, we already started seeing declines back in 2022 where you saw that Democrats led, but only by four points, well within the margin of error. And now in our latest CNN poll among registered voters, which is the party of the middle class? It is

This, I think, speaks to Democratic ills more than anything else. They have traditionally been the party of the middle class. No more. Donald Trump and the Republican Party have taken that mantle away. And now a key advantage for Democrats historically has gone adios amigos. And now there is no party that is the party of the middle class. This guy, this guy, he's incredible.

He's incredible. I will say, that's Harry Enten. And of the people over at CNN, Harry is actually a pretty darn good data analyst. He's actually pretty solid. But he doesn't get it. I mean, how can you be a pollster and not see how... You know, look at there. Not the party of the middle class. You know why? Because...

Look at who is running it. It is all elites and wild rich people that are completely out of touch with anyone who even relates to Donald Trump liking working behind the counter at McDonald's. Who was it that talked about during the campaign? The price of eggs, the price of gas, the price that middle class people care about. It was the billionaire in the race. He's the one who cared about it.

I know. Listen to this. This is Nate Silver. He said, although I've seen this written about elsewhere, I was honestly surprised about how strong the relationship is, the demographics on who takes antidepressants and goes to therapy. Listen to this. Among voters who report poor mental health, liberals outnumber conservatives 45% to 19%.

Those who report excellent mental health, conservatives outnumber liberals 51 to 20.

So the young men, this is Nate Silver. So the young men that Democrats have trouble with aren't necessarily the ones who have been captured by the conservative manosphere or have been looking for a helping hand. Rather, it's those who report relatively high mental health and see Democrats as being too neurotic and perhaps constraining their opportunity to compete and reap rewards of their work. I mean, that's Nate Silver. Wow. He's totally right on that. And they need it.

I know. And they need a study to figure out what they're doing wrong. Oh, my God. I will say, though, I think like Harry Anton in some ways echoes that, though. Right. And I think it's 100 percent true. You mentioned it at the end. The reason for that transition is Donald Trump. Yes. Full stop. I mean, this is what this is, the change he's brought to the party. And that is that is the reason for that success, because Donald Trump has been able to connect to those voters.

Right. And can I ask you, because I don't think it's, I think Donald Trump is,

He reflected the change that was already there. I mean, he really is the Tea Party candidate in many ways. He reflected the change. He embodies what so many people were saying and feeling, and he just stood. When everybody else was taken down time and time again, and they would then start to fudge and melt, and their spine would go crooked, he just didn't.

And I think that's why he's the leader, because he acted like a leader who actually believed in what he was saying. Let me push back a little bit gently on that, in that I think he has – I don't think he's the Tea Party candidate at all. I don't think it's – I think it's a totally different –

view of the role of government. And I think he is connected to a lot of those voters who maybe didn't like the Tea Party approach. This is a chart I was looking at yesterday. Listen to this. Hang on, just a comment on that before you get there. I think you're right. What I mean by Tea Party is the one that is

is disconnected from the government and saying the government is out of control, it is run by nothing but elites, and it is the problem. When I say that, I don't mean the Tea Party solution. I mean the thing that he is a reflection of what the Tea Party felt was the problem.

His solution is different, but he's responding to the same problems. Do you disagree with that? It's an interesting point. I think what I was going to, I think, does disagree with that. That doesn't mean there aren't elements of what you're saying that are completely accurate. But let me give you this. This is...

The question that has been asked for a very long time, some people think the government is trying to do too many things, it should be left to individuals and businesses. Others think that government should do more to solve our country's problems, which is closer to your view. That number of people saying the government's trying to do too much, like I want it out of my life, that number peaked at the Tea Party. Okay? It was well over 60% of Americans.

Since that moment, that has totally, we're on a roller coaster drop on that poll. It went from 63, 64%. It dropped down to under 50 to 48% in like 2023 and has now dropped again to 41%.

So now we are overwhelmingly a country that believes the government has to do more. And the movement there is not on the left. It is not on the left. The left already believed the government needed to do more. It's on our side of the aisle. Let me ask you if this is just me trying to...

look at, you know, the glass half full, is that a response of the government isn't doing anything? They're not arresting people. They're not upholding the law. They're not doing investigations. They're not holding people responsible. I mean, I'm wondering if that response is not that we want more Medicare, Medicaid, everything else. It's that we want the government to do what it's supposed to do. You know, here's an idea.

Win a war and then leave. Don't win and then lose the war on leaving.

You know what I mean? Yeah. I think there's some of that that's probably worked in there, though we've had eras of that in the past. And these numbers have never looked like this in this country. Never. Ever since they've been asking the poll, it has never looked like this. This is a different country than we've ever lived in. And look, that might be a good thing. Might be something that everybody's excited about. Not particularly on my side right now. I'm not excited about that particular development, though some of the stuff we've talked about in this break I am excited about.

But that is a big change. I will tell you this. Remember this and bring this up next hour because I'm going to show you some things next hour and the hour after that make that number disturbing. I didn't know that number, and that makes it very, very disturbing. Thanks, Pat, for coming in, and thanks for your friendship and all the years of support. Thank you. There's a sad little world hiding in your freezer right now. It's a, well, it's an abandoned...

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Let me talk to you about a story that was developing yesterday, and we're at a boiling point. You remember the story about the frog in the pot? How if you raise the heat slowly enough, it'll never jump out before it's boiled alive. Well, we're not the frog anymore, okay? The water is roaring. The bubbles are breaking the surface, and we're just still sitting there. You know, we're like, nope, I guess we're in a hot tub.

Yesterday, I told you about what happened in Boulder, Colorado. A man, an illegal immigrant, twice overstaying his visa, set a Jewish grandmother on fire. Let me say that again. Set a Holocaust survivor on fire in her own American home.

an illegal alien from Egypt that the Biden administration ignored the expiring visa two times, shouting free Palestine, sets this Jewish grandmother, survivor of the Holocaust, on fire in America.

Now here's what we know more of today. This wasn't a crime of passion. It wasn't a lone wolf. It wasn't spontaneous. No, Mohammed Salman had planned it for over a year. He waited patiently, strategically. He waited until his daughter had graduated so he could burn the Jews alive with a clean conscience and a clear schedule. He's not mentally ill.

He wasn't confused. He was resolved. He said if he had given the chance again, he'd do it again and again and again. That's not just terrorism. That is evil. It's hatred made flesh. And it happened here in America. What the hell is wrong with us? Why aren't more people upset about this? On American soil, in a college town, in the New West.

You know, I think, I don't know if you know who Primo Levi was, but he was a Holocaust survivor. He wrote several books. And he's the guy who coined the term gray zone. And he described the gray zone as a murky moral space that happened in the concentration camps where the victims were often coerced into morally compromising situations, you know, just not out of ideology, but just to survive. Okay. That's the gray zone.

Let me transpose that idea into modern-day America. I think many people in America today are not silent because they're indifferent. Don't get me wrong. A lot of people seem to be indifferent, but a lot of people are also remaining silent not because they're indifferent. They're silent because speaking out, especially online, could destroy their career, their reputations, their families, doxing, blacklisting, swatting, losing your job for a single comment.

just being generally unpopular, fear in that kind of environment becomes the governing force. Fear does. And fear is the soil in which totalitarianism grows best. So, yes, Americans who instinctively recoil from today's overt anti-Semitism but keeps quiet out of self-preservation are not morally equivalent to the aggressors, but they are perhaps inside a digital gray zone.

One where the cost of conscience is rising and silence becomes a survival strategy. Are we there yet? I hope not. I kind of hope that it's more apathy in a way because maybe we can wake people up from their apathy. But if you're already feeling that I'm not speaking out because I'm in a moral gray zone, really bad things are around the corner. And yet the media is still yawning. I don't think they're in a gray zone. They're making their choice.

The anti-racism advocates scroll by in silence. The very people who claim to be defenders of truth and tolerance just can't seem to summon any kind of moral clarity or truth here. They can't say evil is evil and this is evil. Not mistaken, but

Not, well, I don't understand what his motivation... No, it's not misguided, not mistaken. It's not hard to understand. It's evil. And then here's what really haunts me today. If this had been the other way around, if a white man had firebombed a mosque while screaming ethnic slurs...

This country would be on fire today. The entire media landscape would be on fire. We'd have task force, we'd have blue ribbon panels, ribbon hashtags, every anchor on every channel, you know, in black ties and solemn tones, warning, warning, warning. But a Jewish woman in her 80s gets burned alive by a radicalized illegal, and the media just kind of pretends not to see it.

Let me ask you, I asked this yesterday, where are you, ADL? Where are you today? I mean, you told me years ago that when I warned, warned that this was going to, what we saw in the 1930s on the streets of Germany and Europe, we would see again on the streets of America, you called me a fear monger. You called me a hater. You called me an anti-Semite for saying that. I was dangerous. Told me to sit down, be quiet.

Well, I ask you now, should I still be sitting down? Shall I still be quiet? Because I'm not going to. I just want to know what your opinion is. You can't fight darkness if you can't name the darkness. You can't stop the flames if you refuse to admit that the match has already been struck. The deeper truth here is this is not about one man. It's not about one Molotov cocktail. This is about systems that we have allowed to rot.

Our borders are no longer defended. The ideologies that we no longer even challenge. The universities that have surrendered and now have become a church. And our real churches have been emptied. The spirit has been forgotten. This is what happens to a civilization when you abandon truth for tribalism.

When you trade your civilization for a hashtag or a slogan. When you embrace nihilistic intersectional worldviews that sees Jews as oppressors, Christians as relics, and America as the villain. I don't say this lightly because I know what this word actually means, at least from Ezekiel. But the watchmen are asleep. Woe unto us when the watchmen sleep.

Our walls are down. The fire is spreading. And let me ask you, do you think Boulder, what happened in Boulder, do you think that's going to be the last time this happens? Do you think Solomon is the only one that was doing this kind of planning?

If we know anything from history, it's this. Evil is never satisfied. Never. And it doesn't stop with one grandmother or one synagogue. It moves. It spreads. It's a fire in dry grass. We are a nation of dry grass and kindling. And if we don't put this fire out right now, open our eyes and close our borders. Clean out our house.

clean out our house ideologically, then this is just a dress rehearsal for something much, much, much bigger. And what will happen to a country like ours if we're hit like 9-11 again? Will we just go right immediately into blame or will we unite? I mean, it would be a miracle if we united. It would be great if we could unite, but I don't think we do anymore. I wonder. I hope we're never having to prove this.

But the fire's not going to be put out this time by sending soldiers overseas. Send them overseas. Where? The Army is here. We let it in. We still have Democrats saying, you've got to let them in. They have rights too. No, they don't. No, they don't. They don't have a right to be here. They don't. It's a privilege to be in America. This time...

Unlike 9-11, when it comes, it's going to come with AI-generated lies, deep fakes, bot armies, mobs so drunk on grievances that they will light the match, set you on fire while screaming, it is justice. We really have reached the moment where the Old West needs to rise up again or be reduced to mist.

Is there the old West? Is there the spirit of the Americans? And I don't mean the gun slinging, well, our new sheriff in town. I don't mean that. I mean the West where the towns gathered to stop the bad guys, where there were still pioneers. There were still people who believed in the ever expanding sky of the West. We were meant to be more than this. We are not meant to be serfs.

We're not meant to be Europeans. We're meant to be the city on the hill. But we've let that hill erode. It's like a hill in California. Mudslide is coming, gang. We've let the lamps go out and the wolves are watching and they are here. So here's the choice. Do we discover who we really are? Do we rediscover what we believe?

I mean, we have to start questioning. We have to start critically thinking again. We have to start. We have to stop saying USA, USA, USA and wave the flag and start understanding what that flag stands for. It's not the flag. It's the ideas behind the flag. Do we even know them? Do we know our rights and our responsibilities? Do we know what we have to do to remain a decent civilization?

Because I tell you, if it happens, this time Patriot Act is going to look like a puppet show. This time it is going to come with AI and surveillance of literal, possibly biblical proportions. And I mean the kind of biblical surveillance that you find at the end of the book. What's worth fighting for? What's worth living for? Or are we just going to sit here quietly hoping that maybe, just maybe, the fire is going to pass us by?

You know, that Donald Trump can solve this one too. The fire doesn't pass. It never does. Fires consume. And strangely, that is right up the alley of many people on the left. That's what they want. A fire that will consume and burn it all down to the ground. Now, if I were Jewish today, I'd kind of be panicking. I really would be. This is three weeks. Three weeks. Look at what's happened to America in three weeks to Jews. This...

This should not create fear. It should create resolve. It's not about hate. It's about our moral courage. It's about standing up right now while we still can and say, no, no, no, not one more, not one more time, not one more person, not one more era, no more, no more grandmothers, nobody, no more college students, not a synagogue, no,

No one. And there is no excuse. We have refused to call evil by its name. So I will. Islamicists. People who believe Islam is superior and therefore they can do whatever they want. That's evil. Draw the line. Name it. Say it. If you're an Islamist, you are evil. Rebuild the wall. Not just around our border.

But in our hearts, our institutions, our resolve, build a wall around our civilization because the fire is spreading again. And this time, it will not be mercy that finds us. If we remain silent, mercy won't find us. Only judgment will find us. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program.

Welcome to the program. I want to introduce you to Sarah Adams. She is the author of Benghazi, Know Thy Enemy. And she's also a former CIA intelligence analyst and targeter, which I think, Sarah, means that if you watch the old show 24, you were Chloe.

Right? Oh, totally. Totally, okay. Sarah, welcome to the program. I'm glad you're here. I read a response from you yesterday on a tweet that was talking about both the assassinations in Washington, D.C. and the firebombing in Colorado, and you said, quote, it's going to get a lot worse.

Coming from you, that carries a little more weight than it would coming from me. What does it mean? Why do you believe the attacks are about to escalate?

Well, there's two pieces to it, right? One is just the fact that we've allowed kind of like this radicalization around the pro-Hamas movement. And as you know, if you don't nip that in the bud, it becomes militant at some point, right? That's how those movements work. But the other thing is, you know, because of how we left Afghanistan, there's this large terrorist infrastructure. Bin Laden's sons are planning another 9-11 on U.S. soil. And if we don't get ahead of that,

you know, we have something much bigger than obviously what we saw in those two places, which were still horrific events. So do you believe that people are already here? I mean, we've left our borders open. How many terrorists do you think have come in in the last four years, and are they already here? Yeah, so I think the majority of them are already here. Obviously, every group has different numbers. So according to Al-Qaeda, they sent a thousand people here to

participate in that one event. According to ISIS, they have 2,500 terrorists in the United States who are not here on a legal status. So that doesn't even account any ISIS members who are U.S. citizens, green card holders, or U.S. visa holders.

According to the former head of Afghans intelligence services, a thousand Afghans here who are linked to a designated terrorist organization. So when you start putting these numbers together, we know other terrorist groups have come in, especially from the fans. A lot of the Pakistani terrorist groups have come in. You know, the numbers probably in the last four years are easily over 8000 terrorists have come in. Oh, my gosh.

What kind of damage could 8,000 people do? Are they coordinated at all? Any parts of these groups coordinated, do you think? Some things are coordinated. There are some joint agreements between ISIS and al-Qaeda. ISIS is supposed to do the attacks in the United States, kind of in mid-tier cities, while al-Qaeda's goal is going to be Washington, D.C., aviation. So they did divvy up some types of different attacks they would do.

And as you know, then there's just a lot of people that are bad actors that hate our country. You could trigger them at any time, right? Because they just don't like the way we live, the way women have rights, all those type of things about how society works here. I did a show back in the old days when I was on CNN, a

around the turn of the century, and it was about Beslan. And that has been the thing that has really terrified me, the idea that actors could be here and then go after our small cities and our schools and just cause terror in several small cities unlike America has ever seen before, like Beslan.

Yeah, no, it's a really great example. And obviously, terrorists have long been focused on schools. You know, we haven't talked a lot to administrators at schools, but we've had a lot of discussions over the last six to eight months over different church surveillance incidents. And in some cases, they do have schools attached to them. And there are people that are asking questions about the schools or trying to access the schools who don't have children, right? It makes no sense. Why would you want to know anything about how a school operates if you don't even have

children to put into the school. So that's very concerning. So what are we doing about it? I don't know. I'm worried we've dropped the ball a little on counterterrorism, especially on Al Qaeda, right? There really is no government collection or understanding of what Al Qaeda senior leadership's doing. They don't even collect on them anymore. We have no collection or focus on the bin Ladens at all. So there's very limited funds. There's very limited persons on it. And then, as you know, when you divert all your

focusing resources to one thing, then obviously you lose capacity in other areas. And the way we left Afghanistan, you know, the commander of CENTCOM said this, we lost 98% of our humans. So we don't have the information to even get ahead of this, unfortunately.

The group that is most active in targeting us, I saw something from, who was it, that said they were very concerned. Was it Saudi Arabia? One of the countries overseas said yesterday that they blamed this attack on the Muslim Brotherhood.

Well, so the individual showed support to the Muslim Brotherhood. The thing with the Muslim Brotherhood is almost like a fabric of the terrorist movement, right? So almost all of them support the Muslim Brotherhood. The Muslim Brotherhood is almost like the PR firm of terrorists, right? They're the ones who go into countries, they pay off the politicians, they create organizations, could be sports clubs, could be NGOs.

And they bring that influence into these countries. We've seen them have a lot of effect in Spain, in France, to where those governments now actually can't tackle the Muslim Brotherhood influence. So it's kind of like two sides of the same coin, if that makes sense. The problem in the United States is we've never banned the Muslim Brotherhood, so nobody's doing anything effective against them.

What happens if we're... How do you see this unfolding? First of all, I've got a story next hour about... What is it? Holland, I think. That is just on the verge of collapse. And they just will not do the right thing. And it's happening all over in Europe. And I'm very concerned that Europe is just a ticking time bomb. That something begins to falter there. And...

you know, the Muslim Brotherhood or whomever gives word, go, go, go, and it'll just become a bloodbath over there. Which is first? Are they first or are we first or does it matter?

Well, there's multiple things going on, right? So I do think there's probably some more near-term ISIS-related attacks in Europe before, like, a huge attack in the United States, you know, especially in Germany. But there is very large plots, like, in the United States, and they're in Sweden, France, United Kingdom, Germany.

in Norway. So they do are targeting certain countries and they're targeting the countries as you can imagine where they have the most supporters. They're able to bring in the most terrorists. Law enforcement is very weak, right? Like they'll pick up these guys and put them in prison for five years. Just like about 10 days ago, Germany picked up a terrorist. He's actually slotted to be one of the U S homeland attack commanders and

The crazy part is they pick them up and then they publicly say, oh, yeah, we detained a Syrian from ISIS. He's a Libyan from an al-Qaeda affiliated group. So they don't even know the people they're arresting, which is really scary. And this is a problem all across Europe, especially Sweden's a nightmare. There is a terrorist attack like every day in Sweden. You know, I was over in Sweden. Gosh, it's funny because I left Sweden.

Iraq and was going to do a show in Sweden. This was probably 10 years ago because I thought Sweden is the canary in the coal mine. They, they're, they are so open. They're so friendly. They take everybody in. Um, and my crew was, uh, accosted on the streets, uh,

It happened later to 60 Minutes, and everybody talked about that one. But the exact same thing happened to us in the same place a year before. And it was out of control then. I think this thing, if it happens, is just going to happen so rapidly, it will be hard for the West to catch its breath.

Yeah, and that's the way you need to do it, right? So obviously the fall of Afghanistan happened rapidly. The fall of Syria happened rapidly. They're trying to make the fall of Mogadishu happen rapidly. It's going to Florida and the expats. Like the terrorists are starting to realize these blitzkrieg type of events are the better way to do some of these operations. So they're planning them a lot more aggressively. I think we're still stuck in like a

2001 terrorist mindset that they move slow, they're methodical. And I think it's become a lot more aggressive and I don't think our assessments have evolved with the terrorist mindset.

You know, I really wonder because, you know, you see what Ukraine did in Russia over the weekend. I mean, they took out, the estimates are, they took out a third of the Strategic Air Command of Russia. That's something we would have loved to have been able to do years ago. We, you know, we don't even think that way. And here's this almost now third world country with no army to speak of doing that kind of damage online.

miles, thousands of miles inside of the borders. My gosh, what could they do here? Yeah, and I mean, that was impressive. They took out like 7 billion of equipment just using drones, which is so low cost. And low cost is obviously great alternatives for terrorists, right? So yeah, that's a very scary thing. And it's no secret terrorists have used drones, right? Obviously, they even recorded themselves doing attacks with drones. In Syria, they've had drone camps. In Al-Qaeda, they have a

camps solely focused on drones and using them to deliver bombs and other type of things. So, yeah, that's going to be the future, unfortunately. It doesn't have to just be nation states, right? It is these two factors. If you were in charge today, what advice would you be giving the American people? What should we be hardening? What should we be doing? What should we be looking for?

Well, the way I look at it is, obviously, we don't exactly know where the attack is going to happen, but we know what different things the terrorists trained on. So that's what I like to tell people. So they trained on attacking hospitals. They trained on attacking, like, shopping centers. They trained on...

on schools, they trained on nightclubs, right? So think about it. If you harden those types of locations, then if the terrorist was going to hit you, now they have to recalculate, now they have to make a different decision. Now you pushed off their timeline, right? You made it harder for them and hopefully easier for law enforcement

to pick up something in the casing or something in advance to help sort this, right? So that's a lot that I like to focus on. And then another thing is really just be a force multiplier, be someone who can help, right? Go take, stop the bleed, be able to help someone in an emergency because it's going to take time for first responders to arrive. And the terrorists are likely going to attack first responders like they did in Israel. And you have to keep that in mind.

You just recently tweeted, there have been multiple incidences of suspected terrorist casing churches across the U.S. If this happens at your parish, don't brush it off. Report it. How do you harden your church?

Well, a lot of churches have started to make these security and safety teams. That's a really good start. The best part is if you have any sort of visitors, they have to do some sort of registering outside of the parish, right? So you know who's in the building. Anything you can do external is the best way to do it. But it's also just common sense, right? If people show up with weird questions, and I'll just tell you, there are some similar situations. A lot of the situations, it's two to four people.

men teams that come in, they are not Christian and they have cover stories. Some of the cover stories are like, oh, my religious elder told me I need to go explore other religions. And then they say they're Muslim or they say they're Hindu. And then they start asking questions about the security team, which would be very strange if you're looking at joining a church. And then the main question that's been most concerning that we've seen in a lot of different locations is do you live stream your service?

So we do think like some of those items, if they're talking about this, get the photos, take their driver's license, right? And then report it to law enforcement. And the more people who can do pieces of this, hopefully law enforcement can put it all together, right? And see where things are connected and get ahead of it. Not everything's terrorism. Remember, there's crime rings targeting these churches. So you can protect yourself in multiple ways. So you're thinking that the live streaming is a problem because they want it to be viewed and recorded? Yes.

That's our assessment. It's just a very strange question, as you can imagine, if they're not intending to join and become a member of the church. Okay. Thank you so much for everything that you're doing, Sarah, and have done in the past. Really appreciate it. And please, if you see anything, let us know. We'd love to get any warnings that we can help people prepare for. So thank you. Appreciate it. Thank you. Thanks for having me. You bet. You bet. Sarah Adams.

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