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I mean, your guess is as good as mine. There are really strong reasons to do it and not do it. I'll let you decide on that, but we lay the case out for you. Also, I can't take it with, you know, the daughter of the guy who just set Jews on fire. She's saying, oh, I can't be sent back to Egypt. I was going to be a doctor. I want to study here in America. Kind of lose that pass, as far as I'm concerned. And the Democrats, you'll be happy to know, are assembling their own Avengers team.

You know, I'm not sure what their powers might be. You know, a hero with a hammer and sickle. You know, Captain Commie is here. I'm not really sure. Also, are we closing in on a global war for the first time in 80 years? And joined by Education Secretary Linda McMahon all on today's podcast.

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You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program. Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program. Glad that you're here. Well, I don't know if you've heard, Stu, but you better look out because the...

The Democrats are now assembling their group of Avengers. Here's Eric Swalwell. Listen to this. The future of the Democratic Party is going to be, you know, it's going to take some of those people now, the future, to throw the old regime under the bus. Well, and it's going to take

like this Avengers-like model of Jasmine Crockett, Maxwell Frost, Robert Garcia, people that you'd not seen before just step up. The leader is today, but the publicly perceived leader is Hakeem Jeffries, right? Because he's got to make the case that we're winning the house. - He's terrible. - But he's the leader of the party. And he's got, in the fall- - My position only. - Yeah.

But he's, he's, the reason I don't trust guys like Hakeem is because he's so willing to still bend a knee to the old regime. He's not going to ever speak out against Chuck Schumer. He's never going to do that. But I can. But he, you're not the leader. Oh. But you're a zero. You're a giant zilch. No one cares about you. I, I,

We only had you on the show because we couldn't get anyone else. I got to tell you, I mean, I love this idea of the Avengers, you know, the super team of Democrats. I mean, I think that's fantastic, especially when they name all of them. Which one would play Captain Chaos or Comrade Chaos? Which one would that be? We can redistribute everyone's superpowers equally, rendering all heroes equally mediocre.

You know, I wield the hammer and the sickle and a hammer and a sickle themed boomerang that always misses its target. It's great. It's great. It's great. Who would play that? I would. Gosh, I just I just I mean, their outfits, though, would be great, wouldn't they? I mean, they have to have.

You know, they have to have, I don't know, gender bender Goliath, who is part of the superpower team. And, you know, I can change anybody's outfit into a fabulous but impractical costume at any given time. I can do it. I just look down the street. I'm like, I'm going to change your outfit right now. And you shoot rainbow lasers that make people argue about pronouns for hours and hours and hours on end. It's fantastic.

I'm going to demand that all bathrooms are replaced with gender neutral ball pits. Fight for a world where every day is a mandatory costume parade. That's me. Of course, my weakness is I can't resist stopping to fix my hair in any reflective surface. And that's kind of bad. But more parades. Oh, my God.

These that, no, it'd be good. That would be really, really, really good. Somebody's got to get on VO and on Google and make a short movie of the Democrat super heroes. I just think that would be, I think that would be good. It would be good. You know, the one, you know, their, their weaknesses might be, you know, I get distracted by long manifestos and all of them are long and, uh,

Sometimes I fall asleep in my own speeches, but then comes Terror Titan. I summon the cloud of glittery smoke that causes confusion and mild irritation. And I can monologue for hours about disrupting the system without making any point and then stand up for all the terrorists that are here in the country. Because I'm a superhero. I champion chaos, replacing all the traffic lights with disco balls.

you know and i'm gonna and our national anthem's gonna only be played by a kazoo in every single sporting event where only transgender people can compete because those are the real men or women or which what you know what i'm saying my gosh oh i love it i love it they are so unbelievably clueless by the way stew i don't know if you know this but i've i'm gonna come clean uh

I am leaving the Democratic Party and I'm going to write a book about it. Oh, wow. Really? Officially? Yeah. You're out? Officially. Officially, I'm out of the Democratic Party and I'm going to write a book. Because they lied to me this whole time. I didn't know. I didn't see it. They were lying this whole time. And my gosh, how did I not see it? I mean, they just made me look like a joke. Ha ha.

I love that story. I can't get enough of it. And now today, all of the former Biden aides who said nothing about her this entire time are all out like knives out coming after her.

which I just can't love enough. I just, every single thing we said for four years is now being backed up by democratic sources. We should cherish this moment a little bit. It is fun.

What is she leaving for? Did she say? I couldn't find that anywhere. It's weird. The only thing that is indicated in what's been released so far, this is Corinne Jean-Pierre we're talking about, by the way. I don't know if we've set that up. And me. And me. And Glenn. And Glenn is officially out. Leaving the Democratic Party. I'm out and I'm going to write a book. Like Corinne Jean-Pierre, you only like women. So you're also a lesbian. So you've come out in two different ways today. Yeah, I know.

But the only thing that they mentioned in the report seemed to be that she was angry at the Democrats for abandoning and betraying Joe Biden, which is fascinating in a million different ways.

She's actually standing by Joe Biden. She's like, she finds out, quote, air quotes here, she finds out now that the whole thing was a sham. And she's like, oh, you should still stand by him. I mean, not too close because he smells like he just pooped his pants, but...

Yeah, I think so. Again, we don't, we are, and I say this, we are literally judging a book by its cover at this point, so we don't know what the book actually says, but it does seem to indicate that. And you know what's strangely, after it comes out, still no one will know what it says. I don't know. This is what I might read. Nobody's going to read that book.

I want to hear every horrible word that comes out of her chat GPT mouth in this particular book. All you have to do is go on to chat GPT and say, what would a book read like if Corinne Jean-Pierre wrote a book?

uh uh and it will write it and it will probably be word for word because she's not writing that book no she's not right i can't imagine i what would a book read like from someone who can't read or write i don't know i mean it's difficult uh oh my gosh are you saying that because she's a lesbian or because she was super nice dressed or because she's black or be why why are you saying that she's an idiot that's why uh she's an idiot that's why i'm saying yeah yeah

I forgot about that. She was a complete, total idiot. Yes. But I don't know if you saw this reporting, but it's fascinating to watch it because they are everything we said about her. She's incompetent. She makes more problems than she solves. How many times do we say, how does she have this job? This is insanity. And it's all in the reporting today. They all can admit it now because she's no longer a Democrat.

It didn't matter that she was ruining the country and the communication between the White House and the American people. That was not a concern for them at all. They're concerned now because she's not she's no longer saying she's a Democrat. One of the quotes in the article is she has lost her only constituency party line Democrats.

which is such a good point it's such a good line but it's true the only possible defense for her this entire time was you were defending every democrat no matter what they did it's the only defense because she was terrible at every single aspect of her job and now the one thing she had which was the d after her name is god and now people can finally tell the truth apparently

You know, speaking of D's after your name, and I mean D for dunce, the women of The View are really, I mean, they're just not the sharpest. First of all, Sonny Hostin's view on Elon Musk. I mean, can we play this, please? So really, he saved our country less than 1%, nothing. But the damage that he did was just really incredible. He slashed...

250,000 federal employees, more than 8,500 contracts, more than 10,000 grants, and his cutbacks on medical research cost the lives of the foreign aid, cost 300,000 lives, mostly children. That's the damage that Elon Musk did. Show me that stat.

Show me that stat. Show that to me. Costs the lives of 300,000 mostly children. Show that stat to me. I want the names. I want to know the exact numbers, how they died. She's like, I don't think anybody should be listening because he kills children. No, that's not Elon Musk. Elon Musk is making children. Lots and lots and lots of it.

He may replace all 300,000 children that you say died by when? Wednesday of next week? He's kind of constantly at it, it seems. It is the Elon Musk pastime. It seems that every other day we hear about more of them. I mean, an Elon Musk commercial would be, oh, geez, time to make the children.

He's always making... Always. I mean, geez, he's very concerned about population growth. I guarantee... It's interesting because if you happen to be listening on the radio or podcast, you can't see Sonny

doing a current Jean-Pierre and reading every word of that. So as you point out, it's not just her making something up. It's not just her trying to remember something. She saw someone tweet. Someone has given her the information that 300,000 people have been killed by this medical research that doesn't even seem to be cut.

In the bill that they're trying to pass, which is fascinating. I'm going to look, Glenn. I will see if I can find the source of it. I assume it's something, but I don't know. Okay. Now, the view went on to say that Elon has dirt on President Trump. Now, listen to this.

On the flip side, those Republicans, if you're in a House district, you're like, I'm afraid of Donald Trump. But Elon Musk, because of the dark money system we live in, he can come in and primary you by just pouring millions and millions into your race. And then there is that. Stop, stop, stop. How unbelievably rich is this? And when I say rich, I mean in a George Soros sort of way.

They are now concerned about dark money where somebody who is a billionaire can come in and just primary you. Does George Soros come to mind at all?

Oh my gosh, I can't take it. I just can't take it. But wait, there's more. - Donald Trump, but Elon Musk, because of the dark money system we live in, he can come in and primary you by just pouring millions and millions into your race. - And then there is that, you know, if one was going to think, you know, ooh, maybe this happened. You know, Elon knows the 411 on everything. - Yeah, he got all that information. - He knows how all this came down.

So now suddenly he's like, well, oh, harumph. I'm so angry. So Trump should be afraid of him. I think Trump is afraid of him. He has seats on the election, too. I think he is afraid of him. Stop. So now it's an election conspiracy. Now Trump didn't win. Elon Musk may have, well, he at least knows how Trump fixed the election.

So election denier, election denier, that is bad for our republic. It is. They're destroying the republic. They should be silenced. Election denying now from the ladies on The View. And they're saying that Elon Musk terrifies Donald Trump. Can I tell you something? And I mean this sincerely. I think the only thing that terrifies Trump is nuclear war.

It's the only thing I have ever seen him talk about or respond to that seems to really scare the crap out of him. And that is all out nuclear war. I don't think he's afraid of Elon Musk. You know, I just I don't. I don't. But, you know, they find that the left finally has their dream come true.

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All right, I want to talk to you about something and tie some dots together that others aren't going to tie together for you. I hope I'm wrong on this, but I don't think I am. We are closer to a true global war than any time in at least my lifetime, I believe.

And if you think that's hyperbole, let me walk you through three things that are happening right now. And they're not in secret. They're not in back rooms. They're in broad daylight right in front of all of our eyes. And no one is really talking about it. First of all, last night, the U.S. Embassy in Kiev, the U.S. Embassy in Kiev issued a chilling message to American citizens still in Ukraine. It said, quote, be prepared to take cover. That's that's the American embassy's words.

It's not a drill, it's not a policy review. They're urging people to find bomb shelters, stockpile food and water, and prepare for mass missile strikes. Why? Because Ukraine just launched one of its most aggressive operations yet, destroying the strategic bombers on Russian home soil, and Russia is going to respond. That crossed a line for Russia, and now Russia is preparing, quote, shock and awe in a response.

They're not hiding it. They're promising it now. And for the first time in this conflict, it looks like the battlefield is about to spill far beyond Ukraine. That alone is enough to send tremors through the global order. But this is not all that's happening. At the exact same time yesterday, the governments of France and Britain said,

the two most symbolically loaded powers in Western Europe that are our allies, reportedly preparing to unilaterally recognize a Palestinian state, which would effectively legitimize the government of Hamas and the broader rejectionist front against Israel. Not after negotiations, not after hostages, not after peace, unilaterally recognizing

um, France and England are going to recognize a new state for Palestine. Where is that state? We don't know. Jewish citizens are being targeted, hunted, set on fire in our own streets in New York, Los Angeles, Boulder, Colorado, in England, in France, all over. This is happening. This is the world turning upside down. So there's number two.

the very nations that stood against Nazism in World War II and fascism now inching towards rewarding a terrorist regime and redefining century-old alliances in the name of appeasement and political fashion. It hasn't worked out before. It's not going to work out well this time, but it gets worse.

3. Rather than pushing for de-escalation with Russia, France and Britain are now doubling down on what they are calling a coalition of the willing. Not to end the war with Ukraine, but to win the war.

They are actively now arming Ukraine with long-range missiles capable of reaching into Russian territory, while Russian generals warn this will lead to a direct retaliation with NATO assets. So let's be very, very clear. When missiles start flying from NATO territory into Russian command post, what will come back will not be limited to the front lines.

We are on the precipice of two converging wars, one between Russia and another long simmering between Islamism and Western civilization. So the West will come under attack from Russia and its allies, and the West will come under attack from Islamists and Europe, which is the birthplace of democracy, the enlightenment of democracy.

Classical everything, Christian heritage, seems hell-bent on feeding both fires at once. In particular, it is France and England. So let me ask you, how does this sound like a path to peace? It sounds like the first chapter in a book on civilizational collapse. And why? Why are these decisions being made now?

Well, you've got the socialist government that's out of control in France. You also have the socialist government that is out of control in England. And the ruling class in not just France and England, but all over Europe in the progressive movement here, they no longer believe in the pillars that held the West together. They believe the old world has to burn so the new world order can rise up. This is the economic forum mindset. It is also...

And coincidentally, the exact same mindset of those who are Islamists, especially those who are 12ers in Iran, burn the world down so a new world order can begin. You've got the open borders. You have the central banks that are out of control. You have everything.

You have equity at the cost of merit. You have censorship in the name of safety. You have deconstruction of the nation state in favor of what? A global technocracy. If the EU collapses, as it will when member states descend into civil unrest or economic ruin,

So many people who are at the top of our countries will not see this as a tragedy. They will see this as an opportunity. They'll see it as a necessary breaking of the old guard so they can consolidate all power into a single European authority under emergency powers. Always temporary. It's always temporary. And it's always for your safety until it's not temporary and it's not for your safety. And you realize way too late.

This is what's going to happen. You're going to destabilize certain countries in Europe. They're going to start to fall. It'll go into chaos. And the EU will say, you know, these nation states are beginning to fail. We've got to make it bigger. And we got to make it the EU and really give the power to the EU just temporarily. And this isn't conjecture. This is the pattern of every revolution that promised utopias and then delivered tyranny. This is the way it happens.

So what does it mean for you? Well, it's going to mean your energy prices are going to spike again. Your food will cost more if any of these things happen. And this is not even talking about our own debt crisis or the unrest in our own streets. God forbid that happens. It means your retirement savings, if you're lucky to have some, will face a new inflationary shock. But more than that,

It may mean that your kids and my kids are going to be drafted into wars you didn't vote for to fight for a world order you never agreed to. And spiritually, you got to get your house in order because you're going to have to stand for truth and tradition. And that is going to be labeled as subversion very soon. If you're asking how close to a war like any we've ever seen before, how close are we? I'd say we're already at the beginning of it. You just haven't heard the starter's gun yet.

But when it does go off, it's not going to sound like a bomb in the distance. It's going to sound like chaos on your screens, lies in your newsfeed, disruptions in your bank account, fear in your neighbor's eyes. But you know this already, I think. I'm just trying to give you the signposts of where we are, some things that are happening and happened last night that are very, very disturbing. I'm telling you this so you can prepare yourself.

So you can be fully awake. So you can make decisions in your own life. I'm making huge decisions right now that will affect my life and my family's life right now. I'm about to take some serious risks on some things because I believe in them. I believe times are changing. And I'm being very, very cautious and careful, but not living in fear. You just have to be awake and know...

You know, I'm a betting man. I don't like, I don't ever go to, I don't go to Vegas. But if I have to bet on something, I will bet on myself because I know what I'm capable of. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not sure what everybody else is capable of. I always, always overestimate the good things and underestimate the bad things with other people. But I can bet on myself. I just want to know the odds before I lay anything down on the table.

Um, cause I don't like Vegas. I know the house always wins, but when I have to bet on myself, I'm the house, I'm the house and I'll, I'll roll those dice. I'll, I'll take those chances, but I, I want you to know, because it's important for me to know and my family to know what's coming. You know, I've, I've been really good at looking over the horizon and

And seeing things, I don't know why I have this skill. I, I, I think it's a gift from God. I mean, I don't think I figure things out. I think he shows things to me. I know he does. Um, but I've always been good at connecting dots that nobody else seems to be able to connect and seeing what's coming over the horizon. I just suck at timing. But as I see the things that are coming over the horizon, um, you know, we thought we won when we put Donald Trump in, um,

And we may have slowed the train down, but this train has already left the station. And, you know, where it stops, I don't know. But it already left the station. And, you know, if we don't do things, and I'm going to bring this up again, and I don't mean to sell you on this because I'm not sure what to do, honestly. But if we don't do things like,

Pass the big beautiful bill, or in this case, don't pass the bill. Whatever you decide, I don't know. I think pass it. It's only going to make things much, much, much, much worse and our demise quicker. And I've always been able to see over the horizon, but I will tell you, Stu, you remember, I used to, you know, back in the 90s, I would tell you stuff about what was going to happen now.

And, you know, we kind of laughed about it because it seemed insane. But a lot of that has come true, right? Yeah, for sure. A lot of the stuff that you were worried about 10, 20 years ago are kind of facts of life these days. Yeah. And even in the 90s when we were talking about AI, I mean, it's shocking to me that it's here now. I can't tell you what the world is going to look like in 2030. That's not normal for me.

I'm usually pretty good at seeing over the horizon and going, this is going to play this way and it's probably going to go this way. And I might be wrong on timing and stuff, but the general direction, I can't tell you what the world looks like in 2030. So it's, you know, I don't say these things to do anything but awaken you, tell you, you got to get serious. You got to secure your family. You have to know your neighbors. You have to learn our history. You must build your faith now.

secure your own testimony. If you don't know God, you're just feasting off of somebody else. Yeah, I know God because you were taught you should believe in God. That's not going to be good enough. But most of all, you have to speak the truth

even when it's dangerous, maybe especially when it's dangerous, because that's when it matters the most. You can't save a civilization if we're afraid to defend the civilization or we don't know the principles of that civilization. So do all of those things to prepare for whatever is coming our way next, but never,

I wanted to give you a quick, in 10 minutes, you know, the quick signpost of what has just happened in the last 24 hours and the kinds of things that are happening in our own country, but they're a little farther ahead on in Europe and the crazy, crazy things that France and England are currently talking about doing and probably are going to end up doing them because, I don't know,

I think they're crazy and I think they bought on to the whole World Economic Forum view of the future. This is the best of the Glenn Beck Program.

So we have Secretary Linda McMahon on. She's Secretary of Education. She testified yesterday in front of the Senate Appropriations Committee on President Trump's 2026 budget. Last night, we did a special on Blaze TV, why Trump's war on Harvard is a major threat to elites. And there were two things that happened yesterday with the universities. This is one of the reasons I just, I love the administration. I mean,

Nobody's going to stop these guys. But welcome to the program, Secretary McMahon. How are you? I'm terrific, Glenn. Thanks for having me on. It's really nice to be with you and your listeners today. Thank you. Thank you. So two things that happened just yesterday. First, with Columbia's Title IX violation.

And a threat to their accreditation. And the second, President Trump halting new foreign student enrollment at Harvard. Can you take me down the road of what happened yesterday? Well, with Columbia, it really was Title VI. So we're looking at civil rights violations. Oh, I'm sorry, Title VI. You're right.

Sorry. That's okay. So that's been one of the things that has been on the agenda for our talking to Harvard and as well as Columbia. You know, we just we can't allow these Title VI violations to continue. And there is this uproar in the media. They're always talking about that. We are trying to infringe on freedom of speech.

And I say, no, no, no, this is not that at all. This is not a freedom of speech violation. This is a civil rights when students cannot feel safe on campuses, then we have to take action.

And, you know, one of the things that I think what you might be addressing is that yesterday we sent a letter to the accreditor for Columbia that said that, you know, that Columbia is in violation of Title VI, and therefore you as an accreditor have to take very seriously your responsibility of looking as to whether or not this accreditation should still stand. Jeez.

And if they can no longer be accredited, then a lot of the students that are going there now, et cetera, would be impacted by that. So I think this is a serious matter to bring before Columbia. And I think they're going to be responsive. I hope they'll be responsive to it very quickly.

Yeah, you know, I don't understand how Title VI isn't understood by, you know, these liberal universities. I mean, everybody understood what JFK and RFK did when, you know, people were being harassed because of their skin color, but now it's suddenly okay, you know, if you harass a Jew for being a Jew, that's suddenly okay. It is exactly the same thing that Martin Luther King was fighting for. And somehow or another, they're

They're standing against what Martin Luther King believed in. Well, I agree. And so that's why the president has been so absolutely adamant. In fact, he campaigned on this and he certainly fulfilling his promise during the campaign, which was that he was not going to tolerate, you know, anti-Semitism on these, especially in these elite college campuses.

You know, where I do believe that a lot of the instigators are not necessarily students currently enrolled. I think a clear number of them are, but I also think they're outside agitators coming in, which is one of the reasons in our conversations with both Columbia and Harvard and others is that we must, you know, prevent these.

these protesters from being able to wear full masks or headdresses that cover their face and preempt your being able to identify who they are. And so I think there's not been a great deal of pushback on those requirements. Still, the universities want to make sure that any student who is wearing any particular kind of covering as it's a religious

or for health reasons that those be allowed. And it goes along, too, with what the president is saying now is that we also have to make sure we are vetting these students or asking these universities to vet these students more carefully who are coming in and also the professors they're hiring. What is their ideology? Now, this is, again, not trying to tell universities how to teach.

But when Harvard by its own stats say that only 3% of its teaching faculty are conservatives, I don't think there is the diversity of viewpoint which we would require of these major institutions. It just doesn't make sense.

You know, there's also, I know you're looking into Berkeley and Harvard for their connection to China and unreported funding from China. What do you know about that? Well, you know, it's already a statute on the books, Section 117, that requires universities to report the amounts in the source of

of foreign funding. And so it's not just Harvard and Columbia, there are many universities across the country that are not up to speed in doing this. So it's one of the things that we are cracking down on to make sure that we do know the source of the funding. And so we're just getting all of these ducks in a row to make sure that everyone is abiding by the law.

Well, I will tell you, there's a disturbing story that came out yesterday about two Chinese scientists that were, is it Michigan or Wisconsin? I can't remember one of the universities. It was University of Michigan. Okay. Tell the story. This is so disturbing.

Well, it was, and I didn't hear the full story, but what I was listening to yesterday morning on the news was that it was discovered that one of the students in his backpack, what they showed on television were four Ziploc bags, and in each bag was this little bud of a fungus that

that could absolutely be introduced into agricultural crops with a blight and I could destroy the crops. And then, of course, if you're ingesting some of these materials, we weren't sure exactly what kind of health ramifications we could have on our population. So this is the kind of thing when the president is saying we have to crack down on

and understand who these students are that are coming into our universities and how we're vetting them to know as much information as we can, because this is really dangerous stuff. I heard yesterday in a conversation with Secretary Brooke Rollins, who was really talking about, you know, protecting our students.

food crops in our country is not just because we feed the world, but it is because we have, it is a clearly part of our defense as well to make sure we are safe as a nation. Yeah. It's really disturbing when our universities are allowing these things to go on and they're so,

They're already so hell-bent against Western civilization and the United States, and then they allow these poisonous cells to come in and stir up hatred for Israel, for Jews, for anybody, but then take money from one of our biggest enemies, China, and allow experiments to happen with a fungus that they smuggled in

uh to do to do this work these two chinese uh scientists come in smuggle it in and the program is run by two other chinese uh members this is not this is this is a recipe for real real problems how confident are you that you know your um you know your role in the administration and donald trump are just you're not you're not going to give up and you're going to win on these things

Well, we clearly are continuing to put measures in place. The authority that I have

at the Department of Education and that other agencies have, like HHS, like GSA, like DOJ, any of the agencies that provide federal funding to any of these universities, that we do have the ability to withhold funding once we do our investigation and have our findings. And I'm very happy that, you know, we are doing that.

because we were turning up. But, I mean, this was such a clear violation yesterday with these two scientists and discovering this fungus in the Ziploc. If I recollect what I was watching on television, maybe it wasn't a Ziploc bag, but that's clearly what it looked like. It was wrapped in plastic. And that they had him in his backpack.

So, you know, came right from customs, you know, with everything. And so you wonder what would happen if that, you know,

you know, kind of exploded in his backpack. And I don't know any science behind that, but that's just, you know, taking a far-fetched leap, but you just never know with this stuff. And I think the president looking again at, you know, blocking travel from a lot of these countries that we can't do thorough vetting on the people that are coming in, I think is a, is a correct measure to do. And, and we just have to keep looking at all these violations, you know, from these universities and,

And our heaviest hammer is in Title VI. Also, you know, in Title IX, relative to allowing, you know, men and women's sports. So we've got a couple here at the Department of Education, a couple of heavy hammers. Are you still on a timeline here of shutting down the Department of Ed? I mean, is there some, do we have an idea of if this is going to be happening to transfer the education control back to the states and we're going to really shutter this thing or not?

Well, we are currently now enjoined by district court, I think it's a district court, that has said that we could not proceed any longer. Not only did it enjoin shutting down the President's Executive Order to shut down education, but

It is enjoying some of the actions that we have taken, even actually before I got here, which were reducing staff at the Department of Education, said that we now have to rehire all of those people. And it's just, it's a crazy kind of injunction. I believe we will prevail at the Supreme Court, but right now we can continue to think about

programs, you know, and maybe think about planning relative to returning education to the states. But actual actions, we are in a pause at this particular moment due to this injunction. I mean, you came from the private sector. You're a self-made woman. I mean, you've gone from WWE to something even crazier in Washington. You don't need this job. Why are you doing it?

Well, I know it's kind of a... It always sounds like the typical answer, but you'd like to give something back. I just think those of us

who have been in the private sector or who have different levels of expertise to be helpful in our government and see a real need, need to step up and have service because, well, it's no different than the president. And I think he set an incredible example for the rest of us to follow. So

If you have the time and the skill set and he's put trust in the cabinet officials that he's brought on to accomplish the goals that he has, I think it's a really big calling to be able to do that. And I'm honored to be here at the Department of Education and to serve in our government.

for the second time. I was honored to be at the Small Business Administration in his first term, so I'm happy to be back, to be able to do what I can and to lend whatever levels of expertise I have to this mission. Linda, it's good to talk to you. Thank you for everything you're doing. I appreciate it, and we wish you Godspeed and good luck on everything you're working on. Appreciate it. Thank you, Glenn. Nice to talk to you. You bet. Secretary of Education Linda McMahon.

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