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The best of the Glenn Beck Program. Alex, welcome to the program. Great meeting you. Thank you. Have a good one.

Yeah, thank you so much for taking this stand and saying the things that really I don't think anybody is going to reward you for or even thank you for. And in many cases, I think I fear it will fall on deaf ears. And what we're talking about is the situation in South Africa. Everybody's focused on white genocide.

But it is much, much, much, much, much deeper than just that. It seems to me...

Robert Mugabe in Rhodesia when I was young, he took over. It was the breadbasket of Africa. He took it over, destroyed it, slaughtered people, became a horrible communist monster, and the world just stood there and watched. And I think we're going through the same thing now in South Africa. But you say this is the beginning of it. What's happening there is going to happen here. So let's...

Let's start with your credentials on how do you know about South Africa?

Well, thank you, Glenn. And I actually moved there on the day of my 18th birthday. It's a long story, but I had a lot of money. I lived outside the United States, didn't want to come back. And so I just moved down there. I was young, dumb. I didn't know the Lord, but gave me a firsthand look at what was going on. I traveled all through the country and all through the region. And it was already bad at that time. It wasn't like what they're dealing with today, but it was already getting bad. And just by talking to people, you know, I wasn't a Christian. I wasn't even especially conservative.

but just by talking to people you could get a sense of the hatred of the division uh... you could see the infrastructure crumbling you could see everything was collapsing a life expectancy collapsed more than ten years in the immediate aftermath of the fall of the uh... former apartheid government so it was already bad but it wasn't until i got back to the united states and started in journalism that i really started digging into the root of this

And what was really a turning point for me, Glenn, because I had heard all this living down there, but I wasn't quite sure what to make of it. But the turning point for me was in 2012 when a lot of people I knew from South Africa contacted me. An individual by the name of Gregory Stanton, Dr. Gregory Stanton, he's the founder of Genocide Watch. He was an anti-apartheid activist, so nobody could accuse him of being a racist or an apartheid supporter. He went

He went down there on a fact-finding mission, and he had at that time a genocide scale with eight stages. And after his fact-finding mission, he concluded that South Africa was at stage six at that time. Six was the planning and preparation stage, seven was the extermination phase, eight was denial after the fact.

And the evidence that he used was available to anybody. I mean, I could see it. People were sending this to me. The president of the country at that time, the polygamist pagan ruler Jacob Zuma, was on TV singing, bring me my machine gun. We're going to shoot all the Boers. You had the head of the ANC youth league at that time, Julius Malema. Donald Trump just showed his video in the Oval Office last week.

saying, kill the boar. We're going to kill the farmers. So all that... Hang on. Hey, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. So before you go on, could you explain, because what the New York Times said was, you're just ignorant of all history if you think that's what that means. That's just a historic song. You know, I don't care what the Klan was singing in 1860. If they're singing it, you know, in front of thousands today, I take it as the same way they meant it in 1860. Can you just clear that up?

Yeah, and I think the New York Times is being deliberately dishonest here. And I think also the effort to frame this in pure, no, that would never happen, right? They didn't try to cover up the genocide that Stalin unleashed against the Ukrainians by the invasion. They've got a long list

history of this. They painted Fidel Castro as a freedom fighter and the George Washington of Latin America. They've got a very long history of this, but, uh, the, the history of South Africa is very complicated and everybody needs to acknowledge that, but these are genocide songs. We need to be very clear. These are songs, uh, aimed at promoting hatred and ultimately the extermination of this particular people group that is, uh,

identifiable by its culture, by its language, by its Christian heritage. It is a nation in the true sense of the term. And so as I was seeing all this, I said, I have to do something about this. You're right, Glenn, it was terribly unpopular. I got called names and things like this. But I did a cover story in the New American Magazine 2012

called Genocide and Communism Threatened South Africa. And I did a companion piece for it, South African Communists Friends in High Places, where I showed the role of people like Henry Kissinger and David Rockefeller in bringing this situation about. And the reason it's so important, Glenn, and I hope we can get into this a little bit more, the reason it's so important for Americans to understand this

is this is the model and the plan they have for you. The Boers, the Afrikaners, they're the Afrikaners because they came from Holland and Denmark and Germany and France to Africa. We are the Amerikaners, that's what they call us, because we went to America. Our histories are very closely paralleled

They diverge, of course, when the Afrikaners fought against the British Empire, they lost. They were trying to preserve the independence of their little republics down there, the Orange Free State and the ZAR. When we fought the British Empire, we won. But other than that, our history, I mean, they are the closest thing we have to cousins anywhere in the world. And what is happening is a microcosm of what they want to do to the United States and the broader Christian West. And they're even using the same tactics. So go through that.

What are the tactics that they're using? Well, there are several. First and foremost, I would say the racial division and the effort to paint the target group as some sort of intermediary.

innately horrible, evil group of people. And as somebody who has been all over the world, who's lived outside the United States almost my entire life, who goes to these UN conferences, I can tell you that's happening right this moment. They are painting Americans as a danger to the world, right? Where climate criminals, now Donald Trump is pulling out of all these climate agreements,

We are a threat to the world. We're getting out of the World Health Organization. We're these greedy, selfish Americans. We don't want to share our medicine. We just want to steal money from all the whole world. The colonialism, of course, the racial narrative, the same racial narrative is actually being used against Americans right now overseas. Americans are these racist yahoos who built a system on white supremacy. We abuse the Indians and

We don't deserve to exist. And they show things like, for example, George Floyd. And they look at that in foreign newspapers. They think, wow, America is this terrible white supremacist evil society that needs to be dismantled. And then you look at the actual tactics for how they waged the war within South Africa. Very similar to what's happening now. People pouring across the border, intelligence operatives from East Germany, from the Soviet Union, from Mozambique, from Angola, from Libya, from Cuba, you name it.

training terrorist cadres, engaging in terrorist acts. And we haven't seen anything like what South Africa has seen, to be clear. In the 70s, we saw a little taste of that with Barack Obama's buddy Bill Ayers when he and his minions were bombing the State Department, bombing the Pentagon, bombing the Capitol, murdering police officers, and then bombing their funerals. They realized that was not going to be a successful tactic at that time, but they will come back to that if and when they think the time is right. And I think they think that the time is almost right.

I think you're exactly right. I mean, I did a special last week, Alex, on what is the left planning? Because none of the things that they're doing right now are lining up with the mood of America. They are going more radical, more dangerous, more violent.

And it's being encouraged by the leaders of the far left in the Democratic Party. And most Democrats and I think most Americans are just going, oh, well, it's a crazy left. No, no, no. This is the exact opposite of what you do if you're trying to win elections. This is what you do if you're trying to create civil unrest and possible civil war.

That's exactly right, Glenn. And then all you have to do is look at the rhetoric. Right. I mean, at this point, they're not even hiding it anymore. How could we forget Jamie Raskin talking about blocking Trump, even if it led to civil war conditions? I mean, those were his words, not mine. A member of Congress, a prominent Democrat advocating resistance to Trump, even if it meant death.

civil war like condition you look at the way some of these members of congress are talking so the way the democrat mayors and democrat governors are talking i think a lot of conservative americans are kind of insulated from this plan you know they go to church they they hang out with their social circle their family

realize that the way he that is being stirred up and fermented deliberately on the other side sometimes the plane live in fake news sometimes it a grain of truth and blow it all out of proportion but they are starting people up into a blind rage and they're telling these people i mean their term is trump is literally hitler and if he's literally hitler and his supporters are literally supporting a hitler

Anything is justified to stop them. So we are, I think, headed to some very dangerous territory here. And I think your average conservative American is clueless about what's coming. So tell me, do they have a deep state in South Africa?

They do. And it's actually intimately intertwined with our deep state here. That companion article that I mentioned earlier, South African Communist Friends in High Places, what I showed is that subversives within our own State Department were building up the deep state there. Now, let's go back a little bit further. First, we start with the Soviet Union, because a lot of this had its roots in Moscow.

The South African Communist Party was the first major communist party that the Soviets set up outside of the Soviet Union. It was, for all intents and purposes, a tentacle of the Soviet Communist Party. And what's really interesting, Glenn, this is one of the ways you know this is not a racial issue, right? The issue is never the issue. It's always the revolution. The original slogan of the Communist Party in South Africa was, whites unite to keep South Africa white. Wow.

Absolutely. They only adopted the quote-unquote black liberation when they realized that would be a more effective tactic for bringing South Africa to its knees and putting all those strategic critical minerals and shipping lanes in their hands. So they basically took over an existing structure, the African National Congress.

to the point where the entire leadership of the ANC was dominated by actual card-carrying members of the South African Communist Party. And whistleblowers from both of those parties came and testified to this fact in Congress. So you had a very powerful communist apparatus that was supported by the Soviet Union and all the Soviet satellite states. They were getting huge amounts of money. Of course, the UN was backing them as well.

And then you add to that the U.S. deep state was supporting them to the point where our government, starting even in the 1950s, was pouring millions. By the time it was all done, hundreds of millions, according to Rand University, hundreds of millions of dollars into these subversive communist groups like SWAPO, the Southwest African People's Organization, like the Pan African Pan Africanist Congress, which was kind of an offshoot of the ANC.

pouring money into this, very much like what they did in Zimbabwe. It was the same situation in Zimbabwe where the US deep state then got involved and they presented a false binary. Your choices are either apartheid or communist revolution.

And what they didn't tell people was a lot of the African nations in South Africa were actually allied with the Afrikaners against the communist revolution. None probably more significantly than the Zulus, who were brutally and viciously targeted by the communists through necklacing, through mass murder, horrific things.

And so we watched this really interesting situation where the communist powers of the world were united in the same end goal in South Africa with some of the most elite and powerful institutions in the United States. Of course, Reagan spoke out about this a little bit, tried to stop some of this.

They actually put the ANC and some of the key leaders on the U.S. terrorist list. But ultimately, it just it proved to be too much. And they ended up with a communist revolution, which now is entering its second phase where they just steal stuff and kill people who get in the way. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. To hear the rest of this interview, check out the full podcast. More coming up.

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All right, I want to talk to you about the big, beautiful bill, but I want to talk to you instead of all of the politics going around it. I want you to understand what we are facing right now. What we are facing right now is a collapse of our economy, collapse. They will say that what's coming is a collapse that is going to be worse than 2008. I believe, and I could be wrong. Remember, I'm an optimistic catastrophist.

I believe that it doesn't have to be this way, but we are looking at losing the dollar. And it's going to happen fast. How do people go bankrupt? Over a long period of time and then all of a sudden. And the all of a sudden part is coming our way.

Now, the majority of Americans feel that the country is headed in the right direction, and I believe it is. But what we're looking at is a really difficult situation. So let me ask you, how did we become the world's leading economy? What did we have that others didn't have? Because it was very easy. And I want you to make a checklist in your own mind. This is what we used to have.

We had cheap energy, cheap labor, educated labor. We had small business entrepreneurs. We had individual inventors that were in their garage or their barn. We had ingenuity. We had low regulation, a cohesive society that was built around stable laws and a stable government.

That's what it took for us to become the leader of the world. Now, let's go through those and see how many of these we have or are on the road to repairing. Cheap energy. Yes, I think we didn't have that, but yes, we are doing it now. Cheap labor. I don't know how to do that one. Educated labor. Well, as soon as we get rid of all of the DEI crap that's going on, yeah, I think we could maybe...

Re-educate ourselves. Small businesses. No, small businesses are being choked by taxes and regulations. Individual inventors. Not really. Everything's being gobbled up by big ed and big government. Ingenuity.

Well, ingenuity happens when you don't have DEI, you don't have all of these things, regulations, and when you have tax cuts and people realize, I can do this and I can actually make more money and I can get ahead. That's when ingenuity, in America at least, goes on, and I don't think we're there yet.

Low regulation. No, the answer to this is not in the big beautiful bill. The answer to this is in the RAINS Act. And you will see by the end of this monologue, that is the most important thing we could do. A cohesive society. I don't know. That's our job. Are you feeling like you're making inroads on that one? And stable laws and government. Well, that is the DOJ. That is the FBI. That is restoring trust in our institutions. Are we doing that?

Well, I think this is one of the reasons why people think that we are, you know, on the right track because, yeah, we're starting to see it, but we're making some real mistakes there as well. And that has to happen. That's why Donald Trump, I mean, if you look at these, you can understand why Donald Trump has the agenda that he has. He's got to repair these things. Now, the old way of fixing an economy is,

Because you are now in trouble, right? I mean, we know that the business in America is not good. The dollar is not good. Our debt is not good. But people don't really understand why it is so bad.

Well, let me show you. Remember I told you at some point, it was right after 2008, I said they're going to start printing money. And they're going to tell you that they're not printing money. They're digitizing money. And everything I said that they would do and they denied that they would do, they did. And I said that would lead to inflation, which it did.

Our government debt would explode, which it did. And our dollar would lose value and eventually lose its place. They would start to degrade, I mean, sorry, downgrade our dollar status, which they are doing now. And then eventually we lose the reserve dollar, the currency for the reserve. And everybody said that would never, ever happen. And now look at where we are. Okay.

In the years when I was growing up, how did you fix an economy? Well, the government could step in and they would cut taxes. But when they cut taxes and not cut spending, that increases debt. Then you have the Fed lower the interest rates.

That helps people have cheaper money to be able to take loans and start businesses, etc., etc. But instead, what our people did is they just gave zero interest rates. So all of the big corporations just took on all kinds of debt, but they didn't have to worry about it because they didn't have any interest payments.

So they just took on all kinds of debt. That inflated our dollar. By pumping all of that money in, it inflated our dollar. So if you lower the interest rates, you have debt. You have things like QE, quantitative easing, which puts debt on the Fed. And you have inflation, which is our biggest problem.

Then the other thing you would do is you would do a stimulus package. Have you noticed that this is the first time in American history, this administration that I know of, that nobody's talking about a big, beautiful stimulus package? Why? Because a big, beautiful stimulus package, that doesn't work anymore because all it's doing is adding money to the debt.

And then the last thing you would do if you were a conservative is you would cut regulation. Now, we can't do tax cuts. He's doing. But is he doing the tax cuts in a way that are I mean, he's just holding the tax cuts. Right. We're not getting new tax cuts. Why? Because it will increase the debt.

So we're doing the same tax cuts, just making them permanent. So your tax is not going to change. That does not help spur the economy, but it does help stabilize the economy.

But he is then take taxes and he is saying, hey, no tax on tips. He's giving tax cuts to the people at the lowest level of the economy. That's not going to spur on the economy. However, because of all the other problems, it's really important because the people at the bottom of the ladder are really struggling and they have to have relief.

So a way to do that is give them tax cuts, some sort of tax relief because you can't do a stimulus package. So let's try this and hope that people spend that money wisely. Okay. The other thing that you do when you have a troubled economy like we have had in the past and we do now is you look around.

for a black swan event. You look for a game changer out on the horizon, something that is going to change everything. Sometimes that's war. Sometimes that's an invention. But what will change everything to refigure the economy? Okay, so now let me tell you why the president is doing what he is doing with a big, beautiful bill.

Everybody is arguing that we have to cut the deficit. Everybody is saying there's no debt reduction here and we have to have debt reduction. That is great. And you're right. We absolutely do. I am with you 110%. We cannot continue spending this way. Now let's look at the other side. Why wouldn't you cut the

The debt. Well, there's a couple of reasons. You don't think it's a problem. Nobody with a brain doesn't think it's a problem now. And that may explain a lot of what's happening in Washington, because I'm not sure they may be sharing one or two brains between the whole lot of them in Congress. But you you know that this is a problem. OK.

So you don't care that it's a problem. That's another one. You don't care that it's a problem. You just think it will go on forever and the sun is shining right now. So I'm going to, I'm just going to keep spending and I just going to just put my head in the sand and it doesn't matter because the United States is an oppressor anyway. And yada, yada, whatever your reason is, you don't care. You recognize the problem, but you don't care. That's the second reason. There is another reason why not to cut the debt.

And it is one that is very hard for Americans to understand. But I take you back, if you're my age, to Ronald Reagan saying, when this debt gets to a point to where we are spending more on interest than we are on our national defense, there will be no good options left. We are here. There are no good options left. The other reason why you don't cut the budget is

You look for ways to spur the economy on. You don't cut the budget at least radically at all because right now, you ready for this one? It's not going to improve your mood. The U.S. government and the budget, what we spend every year, now accounts for 25% of GDP. So if you want to cut the budget, let's say we just cut it in half, which Coolidge did.

That means that we take 12 cents out of every dollar that is being spent and used in America. We take 12 cents out of the economy. Now, we're going to have to do it at some point, but how are you going to do that? Because that'll hurt the GDP.

You will reduce the GDP. Once you reduce the GDP, then you have problems again with the budget, the taxes, and interest rates. So you have to spur the economy on before you start dramatically cutting the budget. Now, if your mood didn't improve when I said your GDP is now 25% of federal spending, let me include the state and local spending.

So when you include the tax money that is being spent now, your dollars that are being spent in our economy, and you include the federal government spending, the state spending, and the local spending, the good news is it might be at times as low as 34%, but it's much closer to 45% of our GDP.

So almost half of our spending, almost half of our gross domestic product, meaning what we build, what we buy, almost half of it is being spent and purchased by our government. So you cannot cut the budget quickly, dramatically, but you must cut the budget or we collapse. Do you see what Ronald Reagan was saying? We're in a place where there are no good options.

If we do not do the things we must do now, and I'm going to give that list to you here. In fact, let me do that now. The number one thing that everybody should be asking for in this big, beautiful bill is not necessarily more cuts. I'd like more cuts.

But remember, we have to spur on the economy. How do we do that? We have to stabilize our laws, make sure that we are focusing on education. This is a longer term thing, the education. Stabilizing our laws to make sure they apply to everyone equally.

Do the exact opposite of what New York did when they went after Donald Trump's business, even though other businesses do exactly the same thing. You cannot have a growing economy if you don't have stable laws. So you have to strengthen the DOJ and the FBI. President Trump is doing that. You do have to cut, but you have to cut strategically. That's what Doge was doing. Congress is not doing their part by even passing the minimum law

Of what Doge did. That's Congress's fault. Then you need the REINS Act. Because the biggest thing that will spur on the economy that we can actually do. We can't cut taxes anymore. We can't cut the budget dramatically, which we have to do. So what do we do? We've already lowered the cost of energy dramatically.

We're already getting foreign investment, which will help us reshore for our workers. That's longer term. We have the game changer. It's AI. Here's what we don't have. Low regulation. We have to have low regulation. So I want you to call Congress and the Senate and say, put the RAINS Act in the big, beautiful bill.

Because then you don't have to keep going over and over and again and saying, well, will the Supreme Court allow us to do this? Well, did Congress pass that money, et cetera, et cetera. It puts the power back where it belongs in Congress for all of these regulations. And it defangs this out-of-control, bloated government.

Because it requires that Congress passes all of the regulations. Well, they're not going to pass a lot of them, are they? That's why they got rid of them. This is a Woodrow Wilson progressive tool. Get rid of it, make it an administrative state. The REINS Act is imperative. You want to survive? Pass the REINS Act.

It is the only tool that we have that will have positive consequences. And I can't think of any negative consequences because we restore the power of

the way it is in the Constitution, and we cut all of the insane regulation quickly, which spurs on growth. That's what Donald Trump is trying to do. He's like, we cannot cut our way out of this debt. We have to grow our way out of this debt and then begin to cut.

This is why the tariffs, this is his logic on the tariffs. I'm going to get foreigners to pay taxes so we can put that in. I don't believe in that, but he does. That's what he's trying to do. Everything he's trying to do makes sense if you understand the problems that we have. You may not agree with the solutions, but at least somebody is pursuing a solution.

You know, there was a great article out today, and we put it in the prep because it is so, so, so, so, so, so important. It's from Victor Davis Hanson. And he says, look, historically, if you don't fix this now, historically, he said, from Greece to Rome through the Middle Ages to the Renaissance, there are only three ways of dealing with unsustainable debt, and none of them are good. They're all civilizational killers.

Number one, the Weimar Republic did it in Germany. You pay back what you owe in cheap dollars. You inflate the dollar. And then you bankrupt what really helped cause the depression. You can do that. You can pay back the $37 trillion in inflated dollars. It's just not good. It is the Weimar Republic.

Number two, you can confiscate private wealth. People do that all the time throughout history. This destroys the legitimacy of the government. It makes private investors hide their money. Confiscate the wealth. You're already seeing leftists say that that is exactly what we have to do. It never works. Never works. It didn't work in Athens. It didn't work in Rome. It didn't work in Renaissance Italy. It doesn't work.

And the last one is the most drastic, and it's a killer too. South America has tried this one, and it's just redoubts the debt. Just say, you know what? Guys, we're not going to pay you back. All three of those are civilization killers. So...

Pay attention to this because your lifestyle is about to change. You're streaming the best of the Glenn Beck program, and you can find full episodes wherever you download podcasts. Well, the head of Hamas, Sinwar, according to Benjamin Netanyahu, has just been killed. He's meeting with his 70 virgins now. I hope they're all ugly and complainers and very, very controlling. I hope they make Mrs. Macron...

Look like a sweetheart and a lovely, lovely lady. Anyway, so he's out. We've been talking about what's going on in Congress now and the Senate with

the big beautiful bill. Let me switch gears here because I said one of the things you have to do to repair the economy is to fix the rule of law. We must have a consistent rule of law or we will not have an economy. We won't have a civilization.

The congressman from Kentucky, James Comer, is with us now. We want to talk about the cover-up and the investigation that he is overseeing right now.

on what happened with the auto pin, what happened with the president, who was actually running the White House, and why this matters. He represents Kentucky's 1st Congressional District, serves as the chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Accountability, where he aggressively advocates for reducing waste, fraud, and abuse in government. Welcome, Congressman. How are you, sir? I'm great. Thanks for having me on.

Good. Your investigation has shown us now that there may be as many as three, more than that, but three in like a little cabal that were kind of orchestrating the use of the auto pin for key executive actions and pardons. Can you confirm whether you have any evidence identifying a person or persons involved?

Yeah, we have three – we have very good sources that point to four staffers, most of whom no one's ever heard of, that were the ones who actually operated the auto pen. Remember, even if Joe Biden was on the top of his game, and even if he were authorized in the use of his signature on an auto pen, he's not the person that would take the document and

and put it in the auto pen and press the power button. We've identified the four staffers. We're fairly certain these are the four staffers that actually put the auto pen in operation. We're bringing them in. We've asked them to come in voluntarily, which that's the process to do a subpoena if necessary.

Thursday is the deadline for their response. We've given them a week to respond and lawyer up and all that. If they do not respond or if they say no, then they will get a subpoena the very next day from me and they will have to come in for a full-blown deposition. We want to find out the process, who gave them the authority to use the auto pen, who were they talking to. Then the next step will

will probably be the names, you know, like Klein and the people, maybe Joe Biden, the people that are in the news as who everyone suspects were possibly running the White House. This is important because so much was done in the last 100 days of the Biden administration from an executive order standpoint. They Trump-proofed the government.

They Trump-proofed the government with the auto pen. And then we all know about the pardons, but just the executive orders alone, these are given the Trump administration fits in court like when he's trying to bring the federal employees back to work.

You know, the Joe Biden on a pen signed an executive order in the end saying they could continue to work from home and gave them collective bargaining rights and everything else. These are issues that are blocking the Trump agenda in court and things that we think should be invalid because they weren't legitimately signed by the president of the United States. And furthermore, this investigation may reveal the president of the United States didn't even know anything about these executive orders. Yeah.

So I've heard that we have a whistleblower at a very high level of the Democratic Party that has blown the whistle on a little cabal inside the White House that actually what I heard was that some people in the White House had figured out a way to monetize the auto pin. Is any of that true?

We don't know, but that will be a line of questioning, especially when you get to the pardons. Remember, everyone knows about the pardons for the Biden family as a result of our investigation. But they pardoned thousands of people. Some of them were murderers and rapists.

Some were legitimate pardons, but when you're talking about thousands of pardons, who vetted them? Who gave them the authority? And the auto-penn was used in every one of those pardons. Outside of the Hunter Biden pardon, it looks like the auto-penn was used on every single pardon.

issued by this president. And, you know, there's rumors that there were people that were monetizing that. I don't know, but we're going to try to find out. But I'll tell you this, a lot has come out in the last three weeks. We've been waiting on this. We've been waiting on this Tapper book. We have been waiting for this Tapper book for a while because we knew that

that he had sources inside the White House that spilled the beans on Joe Biden's mental incapacity. So this has helped fuel momentum for the investigation. More evidence has surfaced. So we're trying to go from there. So what specific legal or constitutional violations do you believe the auto pen was

may have breached and how serious...

Well, first of all, yeah, it's very serious because, first of all, you have to physically sign anything pertaining to the law. I have to sign subpoenas. I can't – I have an auto-penn. Everybody in Congress has an auto-penn. Use an auto-penn to sign proclamations and mass letters and newsletters and things like that.

But wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Didn't we in 2000, I don't know, 10, Barack Obama, maybe eight, Barack Obama's in Hawaii and it was the first authorized use of the auto pen for an executive order or law or something. So did that not change? Was that a one-time only thing? You know, our lawyers...

say you have to sign anything pertaining to the law. You have to physically sign it. If Obama had a situation where he was in another country and something had to go out, I don't think anyone would challenge that. But to use the auto-penn for everything

for the last at least 100 days of the administration when you have so much activity. You know, this wasn't a national disaster and you had to do an executive order to get food to people who were starving to death after a tornado in Kentucky or anything. This is, you know, Trump proofing the

the next administration to where you can't eliminate the Department of Education because you can't fire those employees. You can't make the employees have to come back to work. You're giving them more rights to work from home. You've signed executive orders saying, oh, you've got to pay the student loan debt off. I mean, the list goes on and on. Oh, and my whole family, they're pardoned, by the way. You can't prosecute them. They've... You know, they've... You can't touch them. So...

These are the kind of things, if I have a subpoena, I have to fly back to Washington to sign it, or we have to overnight it. I mean, there's a million things that you have to do and have to get it notarized and all this other stuff. This was not legal.

There's no way these will hold up in court, especially if there's no evidence that Joe Biden gave the order to use the Autopen. And we have found no evidence, whether it were emails or anything, that said Joe Biden said, yes, I want to sign that executive order, or I want to sign that pardon, yes.

just go ahead and get the document and put it in the auto pin. Remember, he spent very few days, the last 100 days, in the White House. He was in Delaware, you know, going between his two mansions on the beach. He was not in the White House. So there's a lot of evidence that's

that's going to be hard for the Democrats and their friends in the left-wing media to try to spin that Joe Biden was actually running the show. And if you're in the White House, if you're giving the orders, why not just sign it there? Why do you have to use the auto pit?

You sent letters to the personal physicians as well as multiple advisors. Were we going to hear from the physician? I mean, you know, we all suspected the president was not actually running things. We have to know his, you know, his background.

The real truth about his mental capacity towards the end, which would also strengthen the case that he didn't have any idea about the auto pin. These weren't things that were coming from him. He was probably, you know, like Edith Wilson did with her husband, shoved underneath a hand or used, you know, shoved into the auto pin and signed without him really being cognitively able to understand what he's signing.

Yeah, and that's obviously why we're bringing the physician in. We have a lot of questions. We're going to consult with Ronnie Jackson. If Ronnie is available, I'd love to have him in for that interview or deposition, whatever it turns into, because he was the White House physician under Trump. And I think that he...

He has a lot of insight. I've watched several of his interviews. So he knows exactly what's expected of the White House. I mean, this Dr. O'Connor, he better be on the top of his game because we have his predecessor,

in Congress, who's been very critical of a lot of the statements that Dr. O'Connor put out praising Joe Biden and his health, and that comes out that he's got stage 3 prostate cancer, and they're trying to say, well, we never tested him for prostate cancer. I mean, that's just not...

I mean, I get I'm 52. I get tested for prostate cancer every year. So we're talking to Congressman Comer, who is Kentucky's congressman from the first district. He also is the chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Accountability.

The thing that I think most Americans want to see is not just the uncovering of the truth, but actually consequences. If this were happening, are people going to jail?

For doing this, this is a I mean, we just heard from Jake Tapper's book again just yesterday or the day before that, you know, they there was they were calling themselves the Politburo, that there were there was a few of them, three or four of them that were just saying we're running it now. And if he's reelected, it will still run it. That that's not constitutional.

It's not constitutional. If I, as a member of Congress or chairman of the Oversight Committee, could put people in jail, I would have put some of the Biden family members in jail. We investigate, and then we turn over the results of our investigation to the attorney general. So that question should be asked to Pam Bondi. We certainly hope.

that she holds people accountable. We're still optimistic that she will hold people accountable from investigations of the Biden influence peddling. We've, you know, Jim Jordan and I have led three or four investigations where we believe that people should be held accountable for things that were done in the last administration. So again, if I could put people in jail, I would do it. Of course, if the Democrats...

when they were in charge of congress if Adam Schiff could put people in jail he would have put he would have put uh... Jim Jordan and Scott Perry and Donald Trump in jail if he could have right i mean i i want the system to work the way it should i'm glad you don't have uh... you know the power to put people in jail i'm glad it goes through the DOJ but uh... the DOJ if there are actual crimes committed i can't think of a higher crime than usurping the power of the president of the united states and hiding the fact that he's not actually making the decisions or running the country

That is, in my view, that is a very high crime. And it's the biggest scandal in the history of America. If you have three or four bureaucrats, like what Tapper is alleging, that were never elected, that no one ever, I've never heard of them, and I'm pretty involved in things in Washington. Right, me too. And they're running the country? I mean, that is a bad deal.

Congressman, thank you so much. Thanks for spending some time with us and explaining what's going on in Congress and best of luck to you. When do you expect an answer? They have to answer by tomorrow before you subpoena them.

By tomorrow, if they don't, they know the next step subpoena. We've been very clear about that. And that's the process. So we're starting with them. We'll see where the trail leads. I fully expect every name that Jake Tapper has alleged in his book. We're running the country as well as some others that many on conservative media suspect we're running the country. I fully expect to hear from them all over the next few weeks, hopefully. Good.

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