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Glenn: 我想讲述发生在爱达荷州科达伦的悲剧事件。那是一个宁静美丽的地方,但一场邪恶的伏击正在那里上演。消防员们在Canfield Mountain遭遇了枪击,两名消防员当场死亡,第三名消防员正在为生命而战。这起事件是纯粹的邪恶,一种有预谋的恐怖行为。嫌疑人为了引诱消防员,故意纵火,这是一种令人发指的行为。我们可能永远无法理解凶手的动机,但我们知道,邪恶正在逼近,这样的悲剧本不应该发生。我们不能再天真地认为暴力只发生在城市或遥远的战场上,科达伦的悲剧给我们敲响了警钟。我们要团结起来,清理混乱,哀悼逝者,记住他们的名字,让美国精神之火比夺走他们生命的火焰更加明亮。

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The episode starts with a tragic account of an ambush on firefighters in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho. A sniper started a wildfire to lure firefighters and then opened fire, killing two and injuring others. This event is presented as a symbol of a changing America where violence is no longer confined to cities.
  • A sniper killed two firefighters in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, after starting a wildfire as a trap.
  • The incident is described as an act of intentional terror.
  • The event is presented as a warning sign of growing violence in unexpected places.

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We start the podcast today with fires in Idaho and telling you that story, which leads us into our real enemies. Why is it we're turning on each other? Why is it we are not really looking at the enemy within the real enemy?

Also, Robert Edsel is with us. He is going to tell you a story from World War II that is just amazing. You've never heard it before. And Raymond Kahn, he's the guy who jumped the General Lee in Kentucky over the weekend over that fountain. Wait until you hear his story. This guy is crazy great.

and has an amazing story about what he has just gone through. This is only his second jump since he had some life-changing surgery happen to him. You won't believe this story. All on today's podcast. You know, originally I didn't set out to start a real estate company. I didn't know anything about real estate.

This is my brother's idea because I had problems with selling houses and he had problems. And he's like, you know, I can't. How do you how do you tell the difference between a good guy and a bad guy? And we realized we didn't really. We didn't know. We didn't know anything about it. I started working with the 500 best real estate agents in the country, according to the Wall Street Journal. And I was doing commercials for them.

all around the country. And I got to know all of these people. And I realized they all have certain things in common. And I asked him about best practices. What makes you different than others? And so my brother and I, we started really listening to these people. We realized, you know, why can't we be a referral service? Because that's the kind of agent I want. And I would never know how to find them. So we hired a team that vets these people. None of these people work for me.

What we do is we vet them and we continue to stay close to them and we monitor every transaction and make sure that it went well. And if it doesn't go well, these people are off the list. We want to refer you only to the real estate agents you can trust. Go to realestateagentsitrust.com. That's realestateagentsitrust.com.

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You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program. I want to take you into the woods. Let's start here, Coeur d'Alene. Coeur d'Alene, Idaho. It is one of the most peaceful and serene and beautiful places in America. You're there in Coeur d'Alene. You're a firefighter. You've trained your whole life, not for glory, not for pay, but you've trained your whole life to save forests and to save lives.

and it is a hot, bone-dry summer afternoon on Canfield Mountain. And there's a brush fire, and it's starting to lick up through the timber. You and your brothers have been called in not to fight men, not to fight monsters. You're fighting a fire, and you're going to get there in time this time. But you don't realize it's a trap. Hidden in the trees under the cover of smoke and heat was a monster, was a man.

A sniper, one man, one gun, one agenda. To kill you and as many of your brothers as he possibly can. He starts firing. A bullet hits its mark, then another. Two of your brothers are dead before they even know you're being hunted. A third clings to life, fighting for breath as the forest around him burns. And you call in this.

Central BC- Central BC- Central BC- Central BC- Central BC- Central- Central Enforcer, right now there's an active shooter zone. They're shot. BC-3's down, BC-1's down. Everybody's shot up here. Law Enforcement, Code 3 now up here. 551, 10 or 14, up here. Stop. Get out of the way. 10 or 14, engine brush 551, do not come up here. 551 copies, remaining staging.

Why? What kind of madness? It's evil. That's all it is. It's just evil. Evil doesn't always march in our big cities, carrying signs and flags of enemies, not of America, but of all mankind. This enemy wasn't posting slogans or chanting. This evil was crouching in the brush with a scope and matches. Sheriff Robert Norris yesterday's voice cracking, shoulders heavy.

Called it for what it was, an ambush, an intentional act of terror. He said, we believe the suspect started the fire. Now think of that. He started a fire, a wildfire, to lure in firefighters, men trained to help. Did nothing to him, ever, most likely never, ever, ever. Maybe in a bar when they had exchanges. Why would you start a forest fire so you could kill firefighters?

Not hurt them, kill them. This wasn't spontaneous. This wasn't madness. This was tactical. This is evil. Didn't take long. 300 law enforcement officers flooded the scene. SWAT scoured the mountains. Cell phone signals were tracked. Fire crews pulled back under the gunfire. It wasn't a backwoods skirmish. This was a full-fledged battlefield. I'm hoping that somebody has a...

a clear shot and is able to neutralize because they are not at this point in time showing any evidence of wanting to surrender. So as soon as somebody has a clear shot, I encourage them to take that shot and neutralize the threat. Well, eventually they found him on Canfield Mountain, rifle nearby. He was dead. Was that justice or was that just an ending?

We may never know why this guy, I mean, never understand what possessed him to become a predator of protectors. But we do know what happened. We do know firefighters were murdered while doing their duty. We do know today that evil lurks a little closer. Sometimes in our small towns, sometimes in our forests, sometimes in the very emergencies we're trained to respond to. And we know something else. Stuff like this didn't used to happen. Something's changed.

And this didn't have to happen. Is it possible we have grown too comfortable thinking violence only happens in the cities? Far away battlefields. You can't live in the mountain by a lake. Away from everything. You moved away from California to get away from madness. Coeur d'Alene, Idaho just got a wake-up call. Idaho just joined the club of heartbreak. So now...

We wait. We wait for answers. We wait for motives. We wait for someone to say, he was a lone wolf. We wait for one side to say, he was a right-wing extremist, and the other side to say, he was a left-wing extremist. And then one of his neighbors to say, you know, I always had a weird feeling. Should have seen this coming. But while we wait for all of that nonsense, now it's time to do what Americans always do. Clean up the mess.

come together, mourn, and rally. These men didn't die in war, but they died in service. They went up to a mountain to save lives, and they never came down. And that is not just a tragedy. That is sacrifice. I don't know their names yet. Nobody does. I'll be calling the Tunnel to Towers Foundation today once I find out the names, and I'm sure they're probably already on the phone. Make sure their families are taken care of.

When their names are released, let us speak those names in reverence for just a second. Let the killer's name vanish into ash. Let the fire of the American spirit burn brighter than the fire that took them. What happened yesterday was, it wasn't just news. It's a warning. I want to talk to you about the enemy being clear. Crystal clear. But I'm not sure to everybody.

I'm so sick and tired of us turning on each other. We saw it with Elon Musk and Donald Trump. I like both men. Can you stop? Thankfully, they did. You're seeing it with Trump's bombing of Iran, where you were either a Jew-loving Zionist or a raging anti-Semite. Or if you're me, both. And then there was something that really caught me off guard. The people who are turning on Utah Senator Mike Lee over a housing proposal. He's had this housing proposal since 2022.

But if you go on X, you're going to learn apparently Mike Lee, one of the most Constitution-loving conservatives I know, wants to sell off our national parks and our forests. You know, he was probably in Coeur d'Alene lighting the matches because he hates our forests so much. He wants to make sure you never get to hunt. All he wants to do is take away your fishing and your hunting rights and build cheap housing complexes, Amazon warehouses, and whatever China and BlackRock want.

You know, I addressed this a few weeks ago, invited Mike to clarify where he stands because some of my family are very concerned. You can find the segments on my YouTube channel. Go subscribe to my YouTube channel, will you please? But since then, apparently there's a crusade out to cancel Senator Lee. There have been a few major updates. So today, let me just take a look at just the facts here, where we stand on this right now. Over the weekend, Mike Lee decided to withdraw his federal land sale provision from the Big Beautiful Bill.

He said, quote,

and never to any foreign interests. Wow, what a shill for the globalists, right? Or maybe it's how our government should work. Members of Congress propose something, present it to the people, and then they listen to the community instead of just insisting, we have to pass it to know what's in it. And then hear this kind of outcry for that. Here's one of the bigger issues here. We're speaking two different languages. A lot of criticism online is that Mike Lee wants to sell off our public lands. Our public lands.

To a lot of Americans, those lands are the lands we use for recreation and hiking and hunting and fishing and things like that. That's not what he wanted to sell. And he promised to make that much clearer in the revised bill. Now, let me remind you on the public lands. President Biden, under his administration, the federal government,

was ordered to conserve 30% of our lands and our waters by 2030. So apparently, our public lands are being gobbled up even more. That's another, I think, six percentage points. Another 6% of the entire land in the United States is going to be seized by the federal government by 2030, and it falls directly in line with the UN's 30 by 30 plan.

It's an initiative for governments to seize 30% of all land and water, and water, by 2030. Now, do you think the UN wants to give you more hunting and fishing land? Do you think they're all for that? Or do you think these radical environmentalists want to restrict your access in the name of fighting climate change? By the way, current...

Currently, the U.S. government owns 640 million acres of land. That's nearly a third of the country. So they've almost met that 30 by 30 goal, and they will meet it. And then what's next? The 50 by 50 U.N. goal. And in order to seize the rest of the land, there's the Sustains Act that passed. Do you know about this? I didn't hear any outcry about this. Where was the right on this one?

It was enacted in 2023. It allows the government to receive private funds to advance conservation programs. So BlackRock, if they wanted to, could buy up the conservation lands. Does your property contribute to pollination? Photosynthesis? The air we breathe? The water we drink? Well...

As I exposed on a show back in September, the Sustains Act allows all of that to be monetized through the relationship of private investors like Bill Gates and the government. And it occurs without the landowner's permission. So they can take your land or tell you exactly what you want to do, what they want you to do on that land, what you cannot do on that land, because photosynthesis happens. Where were you? Where were you on that?

This is the real seizing of American assets. This is the real seizing of American assets by the global corporations that you are all so afraid of. Mike Lee, oh my gosh. What about the Sustains Act?

In his revised bill, which he's still working on, Lee has promised to, quote, remove all Forest Service land. Good. Significantly reduce the amount of BLM land in the bill. Good. Only land within five miles of population centers is eligible. Yeah, but when he gets that, then he'll build buildings there and then he'll have another five. And next thing you know, he'll be putting a cap on old faithful land.

He'll establish freedom zones to ensure these lands benefit American families, protect our farmers, ranchers, recreational users. But there's still a lot of claims online. Whatever. Charlie Kirk said it right. Democrats, this is their war on single-family housing.

Do you remember when we talked on the program about the globalist plan of 15-minute cities that all of BlackRock and everybody else is for? Remember when BlackRock came in and just started buying up whole neighborhoods, just priced every regular citizen out of the neighborhood?

Why? Because it's part of the plan to pack the majority of humanity into easily controllable cities where everything you need is just 15 minutes away and you never need a car. But is that the American dream? Currently, rural land is getting so expensive, most Americans can't afford rural land. I know. I'm living in a place that has a population of 400 and I think it's 51. Might have had a baby, so maybe it's 452.

And nobody can afford it. How is it possible you're living in the middle of nowhere with a population of 451 people and you can't afford a house? The elites don't need Mike Lee's proposal to take more of your land. They're already doing that. But here's my biggest issue. This is not about Mike Lee's proposal. Okay? It's not. There is a much bigger issue. There is a big gap in personal defense.

You've got pepper spray on one side. You've got a firearm on the other side. And for most people, neither one of them feels quite right.

Uh, that's why I tell people about Berna, the Berna launcher. It fills that gap, giving you a non-lethal option that is still powerful enough to stop the threat. And it fires high velocity projectiles loaded with pepper or tear gas and kinetic rounds that, uh, you know, buy you time to escape or deescalate the situation. It's easy to use. It's compact. It's legal in all 50 States. You don't have to have a permit or anything. There's no waiting period, no red tape, no red flags, uh,

You don't need to be a tactical expert to carry a Burna. You just need to have one. Let's be honest. This world is not getting any safer at all. I want you to go to Burna, B-Y-R-N-A dot com, Burna dot com. Use their retail store locator to find the nearest location offering live demonstrations, including select sportsman's warehouse stores. Burna, Burna dot com. Now back to the podcast. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program. Robert, welcome back to the program. How are you, sir?

I am great to talk to you. Ah, it's great to talk to you. Can you remind me, you were on with us after monuments, man, and you talked about this great service that is still going on where people that they were still looking for, um,

paintings and pieces of art that had been taken by the Nazis. And if I remember right, didn't somebody in our own audience reach out to you and say, I think we found one of those paintings?

Yes, sir, absolutely. The Glenn Beck audience and Glenn Beck, you yourself deserve a lot of credit because I hadn't walked out of your studio last time, you know, in Dallas out at Las Colinas, headed back to our office, the Monuments Men and Women Foundation office before someone in my office contacted me and said, we've already had a lead as a result of your interview with Glenn. And it turned out that there was someone whose aunt

had been given two paintings during World War II. She'd worked for the government overseas in Germany, and these two paintings were missing. We were able to identify who the rightful owner was and get them back. So it's a great service you perform, and it's a magnificent conclusion to obviously a very difficult part of history. What was it like to give that back to the family?

It was a deeply moving experience. The Foundation has found and returned more than 40 works of art from paintings, documents, ancient books, tapestries to museums, individual collectors and so on.

You know, when we see, oftentimes the people just stand there and they cry. They don't even know what to say because they may have worked 50 or 60 years trying to find some work of art that's been missing and they haven't even had leads. And to see us standing there with something that belongs to them,

Not asking for anything in return. Don't charge anybody for doing it because we feel like everyone that went through World War II has already paid enough. Words just fail. It's just pure gratitude. I can't wait for you to tell this new story. Tell me the story of the caretakers.

Well, Remember Us is a story that found me just as Monuments Men did. I had written about the Monuments Men. I told the story of two Monuments officers who were killed in combat, one British soldier and one American, Walter Hutchhausen. And Hutchhausen was killed. Nobody wants to be the last cat.

He was killed in the last month of World War II and is buried in the Netherlands American Cemetery in Margraten in the Netherlands. I knew that story and I'd made mention of a young girl who wrote Harvard in September 45 asking for the address of his mother wanting to write her.

and tell her that he she walked five miles several times a week from her house to the to the american military cemetery was called then to put flowers on his grave because her family knew him and they were grief-stricken to hear that even killed and i know that story to i mentioned that and then in two thousand fifteen uh... the nephew of of hutch house and wrote me included a photograph of this elderly lady with his crown of white hair

And he said, here's a photo with Frida. And I couldn't place who this was. I had no idea who it was. And I realized, my God, this is that 19-year-old girl who's still alive. And so I flew to England. She'd married a British soldier after the war. And I went to meet with her. And she started showing me photographs of when the Americans liberated her area of the Netherlands and all these American soldiers that they knew. And she said it.

"Do you know about the American Military Cemetery?" And I said, "Yes." And she said, "Have you been there?" And I said, "Yes." And she said, "So you know about the grave adoption program?" And I said, "The what?"

And she said, the grave adoption program. And I said, I have no idea what you're talking about. So I started doing some research on this and learned that at the end of World War II, our largest World War II cemetery in Europe was not Normandy. It was the Netherlands American Cemetery in Margrot. And there were 17,800 boys and a few women buried at this cemetery by May 1946.

And by that time, every single grave had a Dutch person, a local person, who'd volunteered to be an adopter of that grave, go out there on the birth and death date of the soldier, Veterans Day, Memorial Day, and if they had the contact information for the next of kin,

send them a photograph of the grave and a letter because they realized it was all well and good to adopt the bodies of dead boys, but where the real need was was to reach across the ocean into the American homes and try and assuage the grief of the families. And they knew some of these boys, and I found it the most heartwarming, uplifting, and certainly unique conclusion to a World War II story that I think's been written.

Are they still, some of them still doing this? Not some. In fact, there were about, in 1947, 48, American families were given the choice to have their loved ones sent home or to be left overseas in a military cemetery. The army had no idea how many families would want their boys sent home.

And as a consequence, they couldn't tell how many cemeteries they would need. General Eisenhower actually thought almost everybody would want to have their family members sent home, but it turned out not to be the case. So about 61% came home, about 39% stayed in Europe, which was about the numbers from World War I, although the numbers in this area of the Netherlands were higher.

The graves that are there now, there are 10,000 boys there and four women, 8,300 graves, 1,700 names on the walls of the missing. Every one of them has an adopter. For 80 years, all those graves have been adopted without interruption. There's a waiting list of almost 1,000 people in the Netherlands to become adopters.

This is a, not just a duty, but a privilege because they take their kids out to the cemetery. They've turned the cemetery into a classroom. And you go out there and yes, there's a somber element, but they're instilling in their kids. You're able to think and say what you want to because of the freedom that was given to you by this American boy or girl. And we don't do that in our country anymore.

So this is one of the most incredible stories that I've ever heard, and I'm shocked that the world doesn't know this. Is there anything like this anywhere else in the world? No, we couldn't even find a comp of any nature. That is not to say that the people in the Normandy area don't care about our boys in Normandy or other cemeteries. They do, of course. Sure.

as do the Belgians and Henri Chapelle and other cemeteries. But there's no place that created an organic grave adoption program during the war in January 1945. These people in this area of the Netherlands were so grateful, having been neutral during World War I and having not lost their freedom for 100 years, and they didn't like it.

And when the Americans liberated them in September 44, I'll never forget this woman, Frida, this elderly woman I met, looked at me the first time I interviewed her. I knew her for eight years, the last eight years of her life. I delivered her eulogy two summers ago. She looked at me, 88 years old, but they were the eyes of the 19-year-old. And she said, when I saw that first tank come

I'm over the hill and I realized we were saved. I looked at my dad and I said, "Poppy, these American boys have come all the way across the ocean to save us."

And there were tears in her eyes because they couldn't imagine how we could have moved that equipment across the ocean and why we would have cared so much. So there isn't anything like it. But in January 1945, these people in this little town of Margraten, a mile from the cemetery, organized a meeting of the town leaders. The town's only got 1,200 people. And they were trying to find an answer to the question, how do you thank your liberators?

when they're no longer alive to thank. And they came up with this idea of this grave adoption program. And it's a story that I tell following the lives of about 12 different American combat soldiers, medal of honor recipients, tankers, grave digger, because we don't know that story. We don't know what happens to an American soldier when they're killed on the field of battle, because it's depressing. We move on to the next scene in a movie.

Well, I want people to know you started your program with freedom's not free. It's ugly. Let's talk about let's talk about what the cost is. Let's talk about the stripping line that the body goes through and the removal of dog tags, one being put in the mouth.

if they're still ahead and the other being nailed to the cross because they don't have time to stencil the names on yet. Let's talk about that and let people know it's not just a Marvel movie or a Game Boy. This is real. This is painful. And of course, at the end of the war, when we Americans declare victory and move on with our lives, there's millions of family members in the United States whose lives will never be the same. So it is still happening today.

The name of the book is Remember Us. And take us, I mean, because that's really kind of the beauty of it. Take us through the rest of the book just briefly, briefly.

It starts with what? Well, I follow... I begin with how nice life was in the Netherlands until May 10, 1940. And the Netherlands doesn't get much attention during World War II, and yet everybody's heard of Battle of the Bulge, Battle of Hurtgen Forge, Operation Market Garden. Those are all within 50 miles of where we're talking about. It happened all around there. And, of course, World War II...

in Western Europe begins right here in this area because the German tanks roll across the border. So I cover the lives of these 12 different Americans. I've interviewed all their family members. Some make it through the war, some don't. You read the book and find out who make it, who doesn't. But their lives converge around this area of the Netherlands. And when most World War II stories end with the war being over,

"Remember Us" kicks into a transcendent moment when the Dutch come up with this idea of this grave adoption program. The Americans refuse to provide the names and addresses of the next of kin. So they're foiled with trying to achieve their ultimate objective, which is to try and contact all the American families. And frustrated, there was one of the key figures in the book, a woman who's the mother of 12 children,

who takes it upon herself, she's a woman of action, she writes President Truman and pleads for him to get involved and when that doesn't work, she gets on the first airplane she's ever flown on, she leaves her kids behind, she flies to New York and lands at LaGuardia Field, she goes to Washington and meets some members of Congress including a young guy from Texas named Lyndon Johnson who says, "Young lady, you need to go to Texas because there were so many military bases there."

She flies to our hometown and lands at Love Field in June 1946 and is met by two family members. And for five weeks, she lives with American families who've lost somebody during the war. And to each of them, she says, leave your boys with us when the election comes. We will watch over them like our own forever.

And they have done that. Now, today, these 10,000 Dutch adopters only have contact information for 20% of the American families. They couldn't ever get the others. So the Monuments Men and Women Foundation. Yep. The Monuments Men and Women Foundations entered into a joint venture with the Dutch Foundation for Adopting Graves. Not charging anybody for this. And we've created a website called foreverpromise.org.

And on that website is a list of all 10,000 men and women, the four women that are buried at the cemetery or whose names are on the walls of the missing. And it's a searchable database. We're asking people to go and see, do you have someone you know or a relative that's buried there? And if so, we have a short questionnaire. What's your relationship? Are you aware there's a grave adoption program? Are you in contact with your adopter? Would you like to be adopted?

Will you allow us to share your contact information? I connected a lady from Richmond, Texas, Saturday night to her, to this young family that's the adopter of her brother. She's 93 years old.

And she was in tears at the thought that when she leaves this world, there'll be someone there to watch over her brother. And that's what we're all about is this connecting. I have to tell you, you have, you've, you've really done something with your life. I mean, I know you don't need me to say it, but what a great job that you have and what a great service you have done for, for so many years. Thank you so much. Please look this up.

The Forever Promise Project. You can find it at foreverpromise.org, foreverpromise.org. Robert Edsel is the author's name. The book is Remember Us. It is a perfect read for this week. Robert, thank you very much. We'll talk again. You're listening to the best of Glenn Beck. Need a little more? Check out the full show podcasts anywhere you download podcasts.

There was something just amazing that happened over the weekend in Somerset, Kentucky. It was like a Dukes of Hazzard show. 35,000 people gathered together to line the streets of Somerset as a very brave driver who you're going to meet here in a second, Raymond Kahn. Raymond Kahn got into the car. It was an old Dodge Charger.

He jumped over the historic fountain in the center of the town. Can we play a little bit of this if you happen to be watching? Right through the fountain. I mean, that is just crazy. I mean, it just makes me proud to be American in a very strange sort of way. It's like I don't even know why, but it was just so satisfying. The world's on fire, and you're like, yes, we still got it.

Raymond Kahn is on with us now. He is the founder and lead stuntman from the Northeast Ohio Dukes, and they do this kind of stuff all the time. Raymond, welcome to the program. How are you? Thank you for having me, Glenn. I am great. I feel like a million bucks.

Do you really? I would imagine all I thought of when I saw you land, all I thought of was, ow, my back, ow, ow. It didn't hurt coming down? Well, you know what? We are thankful that the legendary stuntman who inspired me to do this, like the

the late great Al White Jr., Ted Barba, Corey Eubanks, Jumpin' John Cade. These are the guys who risked everything back in the 80s on the set of the Dukes of Hazzard to figure out how we can do this safely without killing ourselves.

I have to say, I saw a video from in front of you as you landed, and you hit a wall, and you're just tearing through this wall, and there is a photographer that is in front. Did you see him and think, get out of the way, dude? Yeah, I've seen him now. Because it looks like you almost killed him.

So AJ Satterfield is our producer of Stunt Life. Stunt Life is a series that follows us and makes little episodes of what we do. And Mike Kolovich is the executive producer, and that was him there. And they carefully play things out. Oh my gosh. They know the risk. They know the risk.

but he had a little bailout zone just in case if I go to the left or to the right that he would be able to squeeze through and he did. So all of the spectators, they were safe, they were at a safe distance. We can't do the jump if we're out there risking people's lives.

And with the help of the Summer Nights crews, the city of Somerset, all the police and fire and EMS, everybody worked together with my team. I have the best crew in the world. And, yes, I am the driver that does the jump. But you know what? We had to build that car. We had to build that car, and there was a team of us. And my crew was so great. They were like, Raymond, stay at the hotel. We'll get everything done.

get everything done, relax. They knew I was nervous, you know, and they know that my team, you couldn't ask for a better stunt team. I got so many questions for you, but let me start here before we go too much further away from the town.

Who the hell is the mayor and the city council? I love these guys. Who would like, I can't think of another city in America. They'd be like, yeah, we've got that historic fountain right downtown. Yeah. Go ahead. Go ahead. America is back, baby. I'm telling you, you couldn't, you cannot get more patriotic than having the general leave from the Duke of Madison. 45 years, 47 years.

After the show ended. I'm telling you, people love, from all walks of life, people love the Dukes of Hazzard. They love to generally, listen, if there was ever a non-racist TV show for all, it was the Dukes of Hazzard. And that's my main goal. My main goal is

is to get this TV show back on television. That way we have our children and our grandchildren watching a TV show that has family values to it. Okay. So let me, let me, uh, one more question on this before I turn. What the hell's wrong with you? When did you decide this is what you want to do with your life?

Okay, so I was always a fan. I was born in 77. The show came out in 79. And I loved that big orange car. I just, I loved that car. So in 2005...

At 2005, I watched legendary stuntman Corey Eubanks jump over my Roscoe car, my police car, the police car that I have. They jumped over it at the very first generally jump site in Oxford College in 2005.

Covington, Georgia. And that's when I got bit by what I call the stunt bug. And I was like, I got to do this. I got to do it. If I only do it once, I got to do it. And Glenn, this was my 30th generally jump. For our 20th jump, we went to Detroit.

Detroit Autorama, we jump to generally downtown Detroit. And then for our 30th, we're jumping over the historic fountain in Somerset, Kentucky. I don't know. This is different. You know, downtown Detroit, you have crash into some buildings. There's nobody around. Oh, well. In Somerset, Kentucky, though, it's just a different thing. Okay. Let me, let me.

I mean, I think this is amazing. And looking into you, while the jump is phenomenal and makes you feel good, what you have gone through in the last few years is even more amazing than

You had a rare brain surgery, right? A rare hormonal disorder that you were like living another classic TV show, The Hulk. It was changing you, right? Definitely.

Tell me about this. Yeah, so in 2015, I started to feel a lot of pain in my knees and in my elbows. I started noticing my voice was changing and my face was changing. And then here comes, hey, Ray, you have to get on blood pressure medicine. You're pre-diabetic. You're 335 pounds. I was always like around 220 pounds. And

So nobody, because acromegaly, how it affects you, it's over a long, long, long period of time. The people that are in my life every day, they couldn't see the changes, you know, but the people who I haven't seen Ray in a year or two years, you look different, Ray, you know? And so I went to our local dermatologist because I started to get these like creases in my head. I'm like, what the heck? It's bad enough I'm bald. What are these lines in my head now? Yeah.

So the dermatologist, she said, let me see your hands. She's like, yeah, you got big hands. I said, yeah, every time I shake somebody's hand, they're like, dude, it's like,

hands with a center block. You got huge hands. Like banana hands. Yeah, my feet went from a size 10 to a 12. I had to get an extra, a 2X helmet, you know, because my helmet wouldn't even fit. And she sent me out for blood work. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Hang on just a sec. Did you think you were just gaining weight or did you know it was something more? Because you were like starving yourself, weren't

Weren't you? Yeah, because heavy stunt drivers don't make good stunt drivers. You get hurt a lot easier. It's a lot more weight. And, of course, all of my loved ones and my crew, it's the jumps. It's the jumps. The jumps are tearing you up. I'm like, no, no, no. It's not the jumps. Don't blame the jumps. So I had said, okay.

Okay, so went to the doctor. They said, "Go get this blood work. You may have something serious going on." The blood work came back that my human growth hormone was 900. Now, normally it's 70 to 270. I'm 47 years old and I'm still a growing boy.

So, that opted for me to get the MRI of my brain to scan, and they said I have a 9-millimeter tumor on my 10-millimeter pituitary gland, and it was wreaking havoc on my body. And the surgeon up at the Cleveland Clinic said, Raymond, if we don't get this out of you, it's going to kill you.

And my wife's crying, my daughter's crying. And the first thing that came to my lips was, can I still jump the generally after the surgery? And the doctor said, yes, yes. And I'm like, okay, let's do this surgery. Let's get this thing out of my head. And then as soon as I was okay, we went up to the radical speed sport in Canada. Joe hired us to come up there and we did the first international generally jump in front of like

30,000 people out there. And it was awesome. I'm telling you, I'm living the dream, man. I can't believe all this has happened to me, all because of a TV show called The Deuce of Hazard. I have to tell you, I've got to put an event together just because I wanted to invite you to go jump the General Lee over something. You know what we want to do? We have to do...

We want to build an American patriot generally and we want to put 47, 45 on the doors, put a big old American flag on the roof, and we're going to call it the Jump for Trump 2025. And we want to jump in front of the White House. That's what we want to do. That's fantastic. I'll bring it up to him. I don't know. If there's any president that will do it, it'll

It'll be him. I mean, he told me a story. It was so funny. He'll probably do it on the White House grounds. It's going to be huge. Yeah, that would be awesome. You would want to do that. He told me a story, he said, you know, about the flagpoles. And he said...

He was afraid that all of the paperwork and government, everything, and he wanted to build a ballroom and put the flagpoles up. And he went to the guy at the White House that runs everything at the White House, the architect, and he said, so what is the paperwork like? And he said, you know, Mr. President, the White House belongs to the president while he's there, so...

There's no paperwork. You'd have to be the one that would sign all of it. And he was like, this is great. I bet he could build that jump. I bet he could build that jump without any permits. That is so fantastic.

My team, we can build a great American auto metal direct. They'll give us the panels to make the car red, white, and blue, big old American flag theme. We'll call it the jump for Trump. We love Trump, the jump for Trump, and we will rock the way out. It's so great. I will bring it up to him. I will make sure he sees it. Okay? All right. That's awesome. That is fantastic. But listen, if he takes you up, I have to be there.

You have to get me invited. Len, I would be honored to put a passenger side seat in the car and you can ride with me. No, no, no, no, no. Come on. I saw you come down and my back, I have a really bad back, and all I could think of was, ow, ow, that must have hurt. Last year at the Mopar Nats,

I hit the ramp at 72 miles an hour. I flew 217 feet. That's the longest generally jump ever.

in front of a live audience and I landed flat on all four wheels. Had it not been for the safety equipment that the legendary stuntman that came up with, I would have either been killed or worse paralyzed for the rest of my life. And it's because of that safety equipment. I'm not even sitting on the seat. I'm hanging from the ceiling with bungee cords.

Unbelievable. Unbelievable. I got to meet you. I got to meet you, Ray. Let's do it. Let's jump in front of the White House. Let's jump in front of the White House. Thank you. Thank you. Raymond Kahn, Northeast Ohio Dukes founder and lead stuntman. You can find the website northeastohiodukes.net. Ray, we'll talk again. Thank you so much. God bless you, man. God bless you. God bless America.

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