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Oh my gosh, I am so sad this morning. I'm so sad. Yeah, I read a story in USA Today about a young woman full of promise, wide-eyed, probably has an Instagram bio that says, future doctor, dream chaser, coffee addict, and how she's being deported today along with her family. And she's heartbroken. She's heartbroken. And why is she heartbroken? Well, because America's cruel, quite honestly.

We've lost our compassion, America. Yeah. I don't know. I don't have a lot of compassion, you know, because her dad firebombed a Jewish family, you know, an old Jewish woman and other people, and the skin was falling off their legs, taken to the hospital. You know, I don't have a lot of compassion there. I don't. And I'm not one to say, hey, everybody has to pay for the sins of the father. But, you know, when you're here illegally...

You know, and Islamicism seems to be kind of like a family trait, you know. They get a whole family involved. Mom likes to, you know, strap explosives onto their children, you know. Dad is already on tape going, "Islam is more important than even my children. I wish they'd blow themselves up," or something like that. I don't have a lot of sympathy for it. I want them out, you know.

Maybe that's just me, you know. Okay, so you set a few Jewish people on fire. Minor detail. I mean, who hasn't, you know, committed an act of terrorism before breakfast, you know? So let me just recap this little hallmark moment that you might have missed. In Colorado, a man whose visa had expired, not once but twice, and not here on a work visa, on a tourist visa.

He's here as a tourist. 2022, they come in as a whole family. We have to want to tour America. And then they stay. And then he starts, you know, filling bottles up with gasoline and stuffing rags in it. Okay. You know.

When he overstays his visa, then he decides to do what all grateful immigrants would do when given a second, third, and fourth chance here in America, throw Molotov cocktails at Jewish people. Because nothing says, hey, thanks for your hospitality, like arson. A Holocaust survivor, she outlived Auschwitz. Yeah, but she couldn't really outlive that little march there in Colorado. And now...

Ice has made this monstrous decision. You ready? Ice, these monsters are thinking about sending the whole family back to Egypt. Well, not the whole family. I think we should keep dad here for a while. Maybe the rest of his life. Now, can you hear it? The tiny little violins? Yes, they're playing. They're not even American violins. They're Egyptian violins, slightly out of tune. But the daughter says, I'm devastated.

because I was planning attending a medical school here. I just want to be a doctor. Oh, that is heartbreaking. But you know what? America's loss is Egypt's gain. So, you know, and if your hospital is ever low on burn cream, she's going to know where to find it. You know, I'm sure she can spot, you know, wow, that's third degree burns. How do you know, doctor? Well, dad was setting Jews on fire. So I'm pretty up to speed on that. Now, just to clarify something for those who are trying to square this circle,

This isn't some random deportation. This isn't the ICE agents breaking into a third grade classroom and dragging away honor students. This is a man who set people on fire, who brought his family here as tourists and they overstayed. And then while they were here as tourists, they decided to break the law even further. Like, you know what? I'm going to apply for medical school. Yeah. So...

I don't know. I don't think you get the second hole punch on your green card after you go full Hamas on the streets anywhere in America. Now, I saw some people on X, formerly known as the Ministry of Empathy, saying,

We don't make a daughter pay for the father's sins. Really? Really? Because I don't know. What is it about white people? Let's see. I didn't own slaves. In fact, my great-great-grandparents fought for

for the freedom of slaves in America and yet I'm still smeared with the sin of slavery and nothing will ever wash me clean of that sin so please don't preach to me about we don't make the daughter pay for the father's sins. You're not even talking about my father. You're talking about my great-great-great-grandfather who I don't even know and

He didn't have any slaves. Oh, my gosh. Okay, so let me just play this out. Okay, play this out with me. So dad throws flaming bottles into a crowd, and the system says, yeah, I know you're here illegally, but you got to stay. No. No. Uh-uh. Uh-uh. I don't think that's justice. I think that's more franchise opportunity for terrorism. So imagine, imagine.

Your dad walks into a hospital and stabs the nurses. And your complaint is, but I was going to intern there this summer. No hospital don't want me to intern there. It was because, oh gosh, Doogie Firestarter MD, I feel bad for you. I do. I do. I am really not one for making the children pay for the father or the mother's problems. I'm not.

but I'm sorry you were here as a guest you were here as a tourist you already you knew you were here as a tourist why are you applying for college you're a tourist you can't go to college here I mean I have sympathy I am a dad you know I know this woman didn't throw the bomb you know but if we're letting people stay based on potential alone

You know, I got a long line of liberty-loving Amish kids that might want to get into that doctor line. You know what I mean? Like to skip some of the paperwork. And here's the thing.

The minute your dad made the conscious choice to, I don't know, recreate Kristallnacht in Colorado, I think he avoided the family's warranty. I think we're like, ah, you know what? That's not covered. That's the moment the dream dies for you and your family. Not because of our cruelty, but because of his cruelty. I know that's a concept for people on the left. They're like, wait a minute. What?

We're gonna make all the white people pay for the sins they didn't do. But not this person whose dad, whose dad, where they're still living together, just set people on fire and they're here illegally. We can't make that happen. And now we're expected to feel guilt because the aspiring doctor has to go to med school in Egypt. Oh, in Egypt? Isn't that where, I mean, let's be honest, the most common first aid advice is don't say anything the government might hear.

Look, America is many, many things, but it is not a country that hands out permanent residency to arsonists and their plus ones. Oh, arsonists? Yes, I've got the plus one. No, no. You want opportunity? You want safety? Don't set people on fire. You want your kids to have a brighter future? Don't come here illegally.

Don't come here illegally as a tourist, then overstay your visa two times, and then set people on fire. I don't know. It's not that complicated. It seems like a pretty easy rule. I've never had a problem keeping that rule, you know? Don't set people on fire. Never had a problem with that one, you know? And I'm sure it's hard to leave. Sure. Sure. But you want to be able to have your case heard by a federal judge because...

You're now claiming that you need asylum, wait, asylum from Egypt and you're Egyptian and you're Muslim. I mean, pretty staunch Muslim, I'm guessing. You know, more of a Islamist than just a Muslim. I'm pretty sure Islamists are really quite popular, you know, in the home of the Muslim Brotherhood. I'm just saying, what are you running from?

Other Islamists? Oh, I know, I know. Gosh, in Egypt, they just love Jews so much that when you get back to Egypt, they're going to be, your father said Jews on fire. And what? They won't throw you a parade? What exactly are you running from? Bull crap. Bull crap. You're not running from anything. Well, except for the truth. And probably...

Well, no, that woman that your dad set on fire, she was elderly, so she's probably not able to chase you. I don't even know if she could chase you or stop, drop, and roll. She was pretty old. But thanks for bringing that to the streets of America. This is not cruelty. This is common sense, period. You know, if we don't draw a line after somebody lights a literal match, what exactly are we protecting here? So, to the daughter,

Goodbye. Good luck. Don't let the door hit you on the big fat Egyptian ass on the way out. I'm sorry. And you know what? Next time you visit a country for a little vacation, you might want to make sure nobody in the family's packing some firebombs. You know, that'd be a good one. That'd be a good one. Come on, America. You're smarter than this. Don't fall it. I know you're not. I just can't take how many stupid people

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You know, Glenn, I've heard a lot of people make the argument that these people are being deported because of this, like, you know, you can't hold the children responsible for the crimes of their father. And I know that's something that you've talked about over the years as being one of the foundational things.

Yeah. In America, right? Like, it is one of the things that we changed that the world was not doing when the country was founded. And, like, I think that's accurate. However, these people are getting deported not because their dad tried to burn a bunch of Jews in a park. They're getting deported because they overstayed their visas. Right.

That is why they're getting deported. They may be getting prioritized. No, but dad only did that. They didn't know. They didn't know, Stu. She didn't know. She thought dad had all that taken care of, I'm sure. That is...

immaterial to the law. That is, that is not, that's not how this works at all. When you come here, you, you are required to follow the laws. And the law they did not follow was the visa law. They overstayed the visa. They did not get the asylum they requested, nor should they have received it.

I think quite clearly people who want to burn Jews to death are not being persecuted in Egypt. So all of this being said, that is the reason that they are going to be deported. The question is the timeline on that deportation. But that's not true everywhere. Like if I went to Egypt and I was trying to convert people from Islam to Christianity and I didn't know that it was against the law and they chopped my head off,

I mean, they would be like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. He wasn't aware of the laws, right? No, it's not the way it works. You have to actually... That's not the way it works anywhere. Here as well. Ignorance is not really a defense in these situations. So I just... I'm frustrated by this because I keep hearing this like as if we're saying they're also guilty. Like the child is not guilty of murder. I mean, I...

attempted murder. You're exactly right. You're exactly right. And I didn't even get that far. I just, you know, you're here illegally. Your dad set some people on fire. Uh,

You know, if you were like, if you were as a, oh my gosh, I'm outraged and I'm going to dedicate my life helping Jews, you know, maybe I'd have some sympathy for, I'm still going to send you away, but I at least have some sympathy. You're crying tears because you can't go to medical school in the country where your father just set people on fire in the streets for being Jewish.

I don't think I like your bedside manner, Dr. Firestarter. I just, I don't. Dr. Firestarter. Yeah, I mean, there are determinations made within the law all the time as to which people will be prioritized. The

The question is, did they commit a crime? And they did. They're here and they're not supposed to be. Buh-bye. That is the basic function of what we're talking about here. If they were U.S. citizens, by the way, U.S. citizens have done crazy crap like this as well. And when they do it, we can't just deport them, right? We can't because they didn't... We have to go through the normal process of the way things work. That is...

We don't get to do that because it's not on the table. It is on the table when you've already broken the law with your immigration status. That's how this works. You know, I mean, what is Egypt going to do with all the ticker tape if we don't send them back? You know, because, I mean, they're going to have a parade for this family in Egypt. What could we possibly do? You know, we're going to be responsible for them not having a use for all that ticker tape they've been cutting up, you know, for the parade when they come home.

I mean, I don't want to be responsible for that. Yeah. Egypt might be mad at us. That would be tragic. Man, that's horrible. Horrible, horrible. You know, I think we have enough mental illness in our country. I don't think we need to import any more mental illness, you know. Yeah, but what about white supremacy? That's the real, you know, those Christians, that's the real problem. Yeah, it seems like it, doesn't it? It really, it does really seem like it.

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The Democrats are now assembling their group of Avengers. Here's Eric Swalwell. Listen to this. The future of the Democratic Party is going to be, you know, it's going to take some of those people now, the future, to throw the old regime under the bus. Well, and it's going to take

like this avengers-like model of jasmine crockett maxwell frost robert garcia people that you'd not seen before just step up the leader is today but the publicly perceived leader is hakeem jeffries right because he's got to make the case he's that we're winning the house he's terrible but that he's the leader of the party and he's got in the fall position only yeah but he's

But he's – the reason I don't trust guys like Hakeem is because he's so willing to still bend a knee to the old regime. He's not going to ever speak out against Chuck Schumer. He's never going to do that. But I can. But you're not the leader. Oh. But you're a zero. You're a giant zilch. No one cares about you. I mean, I –

We only had you on the show because we couldn't get anyone else. I got to tell you, I mean, I love this idea of the Avengers, you know, the super team of Democrats. I mean, I think that's fantastic, especially when they name all of them. Which one would play Captain Chaos or Comrade Chaos? Which one would that be? We can redistribute everyone's superpowers equally, rendering all heroes equally mediocre.

You know, I wield the hammer and the sickle and a hammer and a sickle themed boomerang that always misses its target. It's great. It's great. It's great. Who would play that? Gosh, I just I mean, their outfits, though, would be great, wouldn't they? I mean, they have to have.

You know, they have to have, I don't know, gender bender Goliath, who is part of the superpower team. And, you know, I could change anybody's outfit into a fabulous but impractical costume at any given time. I can do it. I just look down the street. I'm like, I'm going to change your outfit right now. You shoot rainbow lasers that make people argue about pronouns for hours and hours and hours on end. It's fantastic.

I'm going to demand that all bathrooms are replaced with gender-neutral ball pits. Fight for a world where every day is a mandatory costume parade. Wouldn't that be crazy? That's me. Of course, my weakness is I can't resist stopping to fix my hair in any reflective surface, and that's kind of bad, but more parades. Oh, my God.

These that, no, it'd be good. That would be really, really, really good. Somebody's got to get on VO and on Google and make a short movie of the Democrat super heroes. I just think that would be, I think that would be good. It would be good. You know, the one, you know, their, their weaknesses might be, you know, I get distracted by long manifestos and all of them are long and, uh,

Sometimes I fall asleep in my own speeches, but then comes Terror Titan. I summon the cloud of glittery smoke that causes confusion and mild irritation. And I can monologue for hours about disrupting the system without making any point and then stand up for all the terrorists that are here in the country. Because I'm a superhero. I champion chaos, replacing all the traffic lights with disco balls.

you know and i'm gonna and our national anthem's gonna only be played by a kazoo in every single sporting event where only transgender people can compete because those are the real men or women or which uh what you know what i'm saying my gosh oh i love it i love it they are so unbelievably clueless by the way stew i don't know if you know this but i've i'm gonna come clean uh

I am leaving the Democratic Party and I'm going to write a book about it. Oh, wow. Really? Officially? Yeah. You're out? Officially. Officially, I'm out of the Democratic Party and I'm going to write a book. Because they lied to me this whole time. I didn't know. I didn't see it. They were lying this whole time. And my gosh, how did I not see it? I mean, they just made me look like a joke.

I love that story. I can't get enough of it. And now today, all of the former Biden aides who said nothing about her this entire time are all out like knives out coming after her.

which I just can't love enough. I just, every single thing we said for four years is now being backed up by democratic sources. We should cherish this moment a little bit. It is fun.

What is she leaving for? Did she say? I couldn't find that anywhere. It's weird. The only thing that is indicated in what's been released so far, this is Corinne Jean-Pierre we're talking about, by the way. I don't know if we've set that up. And me. And me. And Glenn. And Glenn is officially out. Leaving the Democratic Party. I'm out and I'm going to write a book. Like Corinne Jean-Pierre, you only like women, so you're also a lesbian. So you've come out in two different ways today. I've always been a lesbian.

The only thing that they mentioned in the report seemed to be that she was angry at the Democrats for abandoning and betraying Joe Biden, which is fascinating in a million different ways.

She's actually standing by Joe Biden. She's like, she finds out, quote, air quotes here, she finds out now that the whole thing was a sham. And she's like, oh, you should still stand by him. I mean, not too close because he smells like he just pooped his pants. Yeah, I think so. Again, we don't, we are, and I say this repeatedly,

we are literally judging a book by its cover at this point. So we don't know what the book actually says, but it does seem to indicate that. Strangely, after it comes out, still no one will know what it's. I don't know. This is what I might read. I,

I want to hear every horrible word that comes out of her chat GPT mouth in this particular book. All you have to do is go on to chat GPT and say, what would a book read like if Corinne Jean-Pierre wrote a book?

And it will write it. And it will probably be word for word because she's not writing that book. No, I can't imagine. What would a book read like from someone who can't read or write? I don't know. I mean, it's difficult to figure. Oh, my gosh. Are you saying that because she's a lesbian or because she was super nice dressed or because she's black or why? Why are you saying that? She's an idiot. That's why she's an idiot. That's why I'm saying. Yeah. Yeah.

I forgot about that. She was a complete, total idiot. Yes. But I don't know if you saw this reporting, but it's fascinating to watch it because they are everything we said about her. She's incompetent. She makes more problems than she solves. How many times do we say, how does she have this job? This is insanity. And it's all in the reporting today. They all can admit it now because she's no longer a Democrat.

It didn't matter that she was ruining the country and the communication between the White House and the American people. That was not a concern for them at all. They're concerned now because she's not she's no longer saying she's a Democrat. One of the quotes in the article is she has lost her only constituency party line Democrats.

which is such a good point it's such a good line but it's true the only possible defense for her this entire time was you were defending every democrat no matter what they did it's the only defense because she was terrible at every single aspect of her job and now the one thing she had which was the d after her name is god and now people can finally tell the truth apparently

You know, speaking of D's after your name, and I mean D for dunce, the women of The View are really, I mean, they're just not the sharpest. First of all, Sonny Hostin's view on Elon Musk. I mean, can we play this, please? So really, he saved our country less than 1%, nothing. But the damage that he did was just really incredible. He slashed...

250,000 federal employees, more than 8,500 contracts, more than 10,000 grants. And his cutbacks on medical research cost the lives of the foreign aid, cost 300,000 lives, mostly children. That's the damage Elon Musk did. Show me that stat.

Show me that stat. Show that to me. Cost the lives of 300,000 mostly children. Show that stat to me. I want the names. I want to know the exact numbers, how they died. She's like, I don't think anybody should be listening because he kills children. No, that's not Elon Musk. Elon Musk is making children.

Lots and lots and lots. He may replace all 300,000 children that you say died by when? Wednesday of next week? He's kind of constantly at it, it seems. He's making children. Always. It is the Elon Musk pastime. It seems that every other day we hear about more of them. I mean, an Elon Musk commercial would be, oh, geez, time to make the children.

He's always making... Always. I mean, geez, he's very concerned about population growth. I guarantee... It's interesting because if you happen to be listening on the radio or podcast, you can't see Sonny

doing a current Jean-Pierre and reading every word of that. So as you point out, it's not just her making something up. It's not just her trying to remember something. She saw someone tweet. Someone has given her the information that 300,000 people have been killed by this medical research that doesn't even seem to be cut out.

In the bill that they're trying to pass, which is fascinating. I'm going to look, Glenn. I will see if I can find the source of it. I assume it's something, but I don't know. Okay. Now, the view went on to say that Elon has dirt on President Trump. Now, listen to this.

On the flip side, those Republicans, if you're in a House district, you're like, I'm afraid of Donald Trump. But Elon Musk, because of the dark money system we live in, he can come in and primary you by just pouring millions and millions into your race. And then there is that. Stop, stop, stop. How unbelievably rich is this? And when I say rich, I mean in a George Soros sort of way.

They are now concerned about dark money where somebody who is a billionaire can come in and just primary you. Does George Soros come to mind at all?

Oh my gosh, I can't take it. I just can't take it. But wait, there's more. - Donald Trump, but Elon Musk, because of the dark money system we live in, he can come in and primary you by just pouring millions and millions into your race. - And then there is that, you know, if one was going to think, you know, ooh, maybe this happened. You know, Elon knows the 411 on everything. - Yeah, he got all that information. - He knows how all this came down.

So now suddenly he's like, well, I'm so angry. Trump should be afraid of him. I think Trump, he has seats on the election. I think he is afraid. Well, 20. Stop. So now it's election conspiracy. Now Trump didn't win. Elon Musk may have. Well, he at least knows how Trump fixed the election.

So election denier, election denier, that is bad for our republic. It is. They're destroying the republic. They should be silenced. Election denying now from the ladies on The View. And they're saying that Elon Musk terrifies Donald Trump. Can I tell you something? And I mean this sincerely. I think the only thing that terrifies Trump is nuclear war.

It's the only thing I have ever seen him talk about or respond to that seems to really scare the crap out of him, and that is all-out nuclear war. I don't think he's afraid of Elon Musk. I don't. I don't. But the left finally has their dream come true, and I don't know who to believe on this. We've got to get into this next hour. We've got to take a quick break, but next hour we've got to get into the...

you know, the big, beautiful bill and what's really going on there. Because I, I don't know. I don't know. But I think there is one thing that is bigger than the big, beautiful bill. Um,

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Stu, the latest on the battle of the big, beautiful bill. What the hell is happening now? Well, I mean, most of the coverage the last 24 hours has been that Elon Musk is tweeting about it an awful lot. That seems to be the focus of the media at the moment. And, you know, various lawmakers trying to

wrangle Elon Musk and trying to get him to stop doing this. They don't want him to message this as this terrible bill because they want to keep him within the walls. They want him to be involved in the Republican Party and movement going forward. But they also feel like

this is the best that they can do, I suppose. You know, it's the bill itself is it's going to be very hard to get this through. I mean, you have only 53 senators on the Republican side. We know basically for a fact that Rand Paul's a no under almost any circumstance, right? So you're at 52. You can lose two more. We know Mike Lee is already kind of indicated he's not particularly in love with this bill. Several others have as well. So this

They're going to have to make changes to probably get those people on board. When they do that, you're going to have the House, which only passed the bill by one vote and already has two members who did vote for it, who have said they now would vote against it now that they actually know what's in it, which is another significant problem that maybe we should try to avoid in the future.

You should probably read the bill before you actually vote for it, especially, and you don't even have to read the bill on this stuff because people were talking about it outwardly in the debate about the bill, the particular problems that these two representatives cited. But so you're already under the amount of votes you need in the House before the changes. Several factions in the House are saying they will not vote.

Vote for the bill if certain parts of it change, like the SALT deduction that we've talked about before, where you get to deduct your local taxes in blue states, basically, for a very short description of it. So, I mean, look, Donald Trump does have a way of coming in and saying, do it.

And Republicans have a way of stepping up and saying, yes, sir. That's kind of the way the Republican Party works at this point. So I think there's a good chance it still gets through eventually. But when you look at what the bill has, it has a lot of good, but it has an awful lot of bad in it as well. Okay. So can I just, let me pick it up from there, Stu, that it has a lot of bad in it, has a lot of good in it. Here's the thing that I don't think you're getting from anybody here.

Really, you're not getting a balanced look. I understand both sides. I really do. I understand the urgency from the White House. And I think Russ Vought is going to be on with us in about an hour or next or tomorrow. It depends on what his schedule is like today. They're trying to squeeze him in today.

But, you know, I trust him. He knows what's going on. And I understand the White House's point of view. I really do. I understand that if this doesn't pass, that means the tax cuts probably are not going to be permanent. They won't get them through. Without the tax cuts, the entire thing falls apart. Without regulation reform, the entire plan for the economy falls apart. Okay?

And Trump knows that the White House knows that the Democrats know this. They have to have this pass because of the good stuff in it. Now, the bad stuff that's in it, the biggest probably bad stuff is the debt ceiling being raised by another four trillion dollars. That's really bad. That's really, really bad because we're not going to be able to continue to fund our our country and

If we keep raising the debt and we can't sell our treasury bonds, we can't sell our debt to anybody because nobody believes us anymore that we're serious about cutting spending, then the entire thing falls apart. So damned if you do, damned if you don't. That's where we're at. If we don't pass it, then the president's economic plans fall apart.

If we do pass it, we run a very high risk of the rest of the world saying, you guys aren't serious about your debt and we can't buy your treasuries anymore. And that changes everything.

That one is not the fault of this administration. That one is the fault of every single Democrat and Republican since, since when I was first born, they have been talking about this. They've been talking about the debt and the deficit and everything else. We've been talking about our spending problem forever. And at some point, I mean, even FDR said this at some point, this won't work.

You'll have to stop it. I remember Ronald Reagan saying at some point we're not going to have any good options left. Well, we're there. There are no good options. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. This is what Ronald Reagan said was coming. We've known this forever as a nation. So I look at this and say, who do I bet on?

Gosh, I mean, we're betting the future of our nation. We're betting the future of our children. We're betting whether we're all slaves to debt or not. I don't hear a good solution on either side. I don't trust that the Republicans...

I don't think they're serious about anything at all. There's a few people that are serious about the debt. And really, I think, understand it. Rand Paul is one of them. Mike Lee is another one. Chip Roy is one. But Chip is one that I think also really understands not just the dangers of the debt, but also the dangers to the economy if we don't pass this bill. We've got to have the tax cuts. Have to. Or everything falls apart.

So what do you do? Well, there is one thing here that really bothers me. This is this is I give the benefit of the doubt to Trump and the White House. And that scares me. It does not because I don't trust Donald Trump. I do trust Donald Trump. But the debt scares the hell out of me because it's real debt.

And at some point, and I don't know if it's this $4 trillion debt ceiling raise or the next one, but at some point, the rest of the world's going to walk away and go, mm-mm. So I give the benefit of the doubt, pass the bill. Just pass the bill. Okay?

That could end up being wrong. I'm not going to tell you I'm right by any stretch of the imagination. I think this is something we all have to do our own homework and then prey on. I can't tell you what's right or what's wrong. You want somebody to do that, listen to Sean Hannity or somebody else because I don't know. I don't know. Here's what I do know. Yesterday, Trump said the debt limit should be entirely scrapped.

That is colossally a bad idea, a bad idea. And I can't give the president the benefit of the doubt on that one. No, if we scrap the debt ceiling and the debt limit, that means nobody ever has to pause. Now, he's right in this sense that everybody's using that debt ceiling as a weapon.

So if you don't have to have the debt ceiling, then they can't say, you know what? We're going to default on our loans if we don't spend all this money. We're never going to default, okay? We're not going to default. We're just going to have to live through austerity. We're just going to have to cut all of the programs and just pay the interest on our bills. So we won't default. And if we do, we're even in more trouble than I thought.

But if you take away the debt ceiling vote, then there is no restraint. And here's how the world will interpret this. There is one thing to say, I'm getting into a car and we're going to go down this canyon and it's very, very curvy. You know, it's in one of those really dangerous canyons that just, you know, make my butt clench every time you drive down these steep hills and canyons in the West where you're like, oh,

Oh, we can drive over the edge and then we're dead. It's one thing to get into a car and say, yeah, the brakes are fine. I mean, it might be leaking a little bit, but the brakes are fine. And you get into the car and you're like, okay, I think we're okay. I think we're okay. And we have a chance of survival. And then another one, inviting people into the car and saying, no, you know, the brakes are fine. I mean, they're leaking a little bit, but the brakes are fine. Some people get in, some people don't.

But if I got you on the top of that canyon and I pulled up in my car and I'm like, hey, hop in. We're going to go down the canyon. By the way, I cut the brake lines. So there's really no chance of us stopping or even tapping on the brakes. Would you get into the car? That's what other countries and other sovereign funds and all of the big wealth management, that's the way they're going to look at us if we have no debt ceiling.

If we just like, yeah, we can spend whatever we want. We don't even have to talk about it anymore. You know, we just know that, you know, that's going to be okay. I'm not getting into that car. I'm not buying a single bond from you. You're completely irresponsible and there's no tapping of the brake. There's no slowing the car down. It starts going down the hill. There's no slowing it down. It just crashes period. That's what happens. Okay. We cannot scrap the debt limit.

That will be the death knell of America. It will be over. You will see the interest rates go through the roof because nobody's going to want to buy our T-bills, so we'll have to be able to offer them more money. Okay, we'll pay you 9%. Well, what is paying 9% interest? Just say 6%, 5%. What does it mean if we have to pay 5% interest on

on $40 trillion. Nothing good. We won't be able to afford it. We will all be paying our taxes just to pay that debt. That's the bomb that's about to go off. And that's why people who are, quote, fiscal hawks that I happen to agree with are saying we've got to cut more out of the budget. We have to.

because it might be this $4 trillion debt ceiling raise that kills us. The world is so close to just saying screw America and they want to say screw America as soon as they're ready with their alternate version of whatever it is, Bitcoin, a CBDC for central banks, you know, bricks, whatever it is, as soon as they're ready, they are going to cut us loose.

So we're facing that. Let's just not hasten that. And here's why the president is... The president has never in his whole life had a problem with debt. And in some ways, he's right. If you have debt and you're not really working hard, you're not doing the smart things, but you have all this potential and all this talent, but you're not doing anything, debt's a problem because how are you going to pay for it? When you're not making the...

Even the minimum debt payment, you're just adding more debt. You're in real trouble. However, you know, you're a deadbeat and you're like, you know what? I'm going to go to school. I'm going to become a doctor. I'm going to become a brain surgeon. And you have the ability to do that. You know, I'm going to be a brain surgeon and, you know, some Nobel Prize winning scientist on energy because I'm going to invent a new kind of energy.

You have no problem with the debt you have. You can keep piling on debt. Go ahead. You want to go to Harvard? Good luck with that. But go to Harvard and pile that debt on because you will be able to pay that off with what you're going to make in the future. But right now, we're the deadbeats. We're not doing anything to make more money. And you know this in your own life. You have to be able to make more money. You have debt.

You either have to refinance and if it's at a higher interest rate, that could be a problem. You have to pay it off or you just have to default and say, you know what? Chapter 11, I'm out. Well, we can't file chapter 11. We can't do that. We can't default. The world won't allow us to. So what do we do? We either cut our debt and our deficit and we get our spending way under control

Or we get another job and we reinvent. That's why Donald Trump is letting these AI companies build their own nuclear power plants. We don't have the money to build them. They're going to have to build them. You want to build them? You build them. I'll clear the red tape, but I'm not paying for them. You build them because you're going to be using the energy for AI. So go ahead. You build the power plants.

It's a way for us not to dig ourselves into a hole and allow us to be in a position to where we can reinvent the world and reinvent the way the world works and be first on the scene so we can pay this debt off because we now have another job. Does this make sense? But there's one problem with all of this, and that is money.

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One of the reasons why we can't cut so dramatically is because between federal, state, and local, our GDP is 45% based on taxes, on government, state, local, and federal spending. That's half of our GDP.

That's a crazy amount. That's a dangerous amount. So you start cutting all of these programs, you start cutting all of the, you know, super fast bullet train that we need in California. It's going to take us another 20 years. So give us some more money. You stop spending this money. That money dries up in our communities and people lose their jobs. So we have to be very careful on how we cut, how rapidly we cut. We don't want to cut too quickly.

until we replace it with growth. But how do you grow without cutting the budgets? I mean, we are in this really tough situation. That's why I say to you, I'm not going to tell you which way to go on it because I don't know. I don't know. Who do you trust? I don't know.

Who has the right idea? I don't know. I think it's a combination of everybody. But I also know that there's nobody on the Democrat side. There's nobody on the Democrat side that's ready to go, you know what? I'm going to do the responsible thing and I'm going to cut. I'm going to cut. They're not. So we're just negotiating with ourselves as usual. And will the Republicans screw it up? Well, don't they always? This is Glenn Beck.

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And if you think that's hyperbole, let me walk you through three things that are happening right now. And they're not in secret. They're not in back rooms. They're in broad daylight right in front of all of our eyes. And no one is really talking about it. First of all, last night, the U.S. Embassy in Kiev, the U.S. Embassy in Kiev issued a chilling message to American citizens still in Ukraine. It said, quote, be prepared to take cover. That's that's the American embassy's words.

It's not a drill. It's not a policy review. They're urging people to find bomb shelters, stockpile food and water, and prepare for mass missile strikes. Why?

Because Ukraine just launched one of its most aggressive operations yet, destroying the strategic bombers on Russian home soil, and Russia is going to respond. That crossed a line for Russia. And now Russia is preparing, quote, shock and awe in a response. They're not hiding it. They're promising it now. And for the first time in this conflict, it looks like the battlefield is about to spill far beyond Ukraine.

That alone is enough to send tremors through the global order. But this is not all that's happening. At the exact same time yesterday, the governments of France and Britain, the two most symbolically loaded powers in Western Europe that are our allies, reportedly preparing to unilaterally recognize a Palestinian state.

which would effectively legitimize the government of Hamas and the broader rejectionist front against Israel. Not after negotiations, not after hostages, not after peace. Unilaterally, France and England are going to recognize a new state for Palestine. Where is that state? We don't know.

Jewish citizens are being targeted, hunted, set on fire in our own streets in New York, Los Angeles, Boulder, Colorado, England, in France, all over. This is happening. This is the world turning upside down. So there's number two.

the very nations that stood against Nazism in World War II and fascism now inching towards rewarding a terrorist regime and redefining century-old alliances in the name of appeasement and political fashion. It hasn't worked out before. It's not going to work out well this time, but it gets worse.

Number three, rather than pushing for de-escalation with Russia, France and Britain are now doubling down on what they are calling a coalition of the willing, not to end the war with Ukraine, but to win the war.

They are actively now arming Ukraine with long-range missiles capable of reaching into Russian territory, while Russian generals warn this will lead to a direct retaliation with NATO assets. So let's be very, very clear. When missiles start flying from NATO territory into Russian command post, what will come back will not be limited to the front lines.

We are on the precipice of two converging wars, one between Russia and another long simmering between Islamism and Western civilization. So the West will come under attack from Russia and its allies, and the West will come under attack from Islamists and Europe, which is the birthplace of democracy, the enlightenment of democracy.

classical everything, Christian heritage, seems hell-bent on feeding both fires at once. In particular, it is France and England. So let me ask you, how does this sound like a path to peace? It sounds like the first chapter in a book on civilizational collapse. And why? Why are these decisions being made now?

Well, you've got the socialist government that's out of control in France. You also have the socialist government that is out of control in England. And the ruling class in not just France and England, but all over Europe in the progressive movement here, they no longer believe in the pillars that held the West together. They believe the old world has to burn so the new world order can rise up. This is the economic forum mindset. It is also...

And coincidentally, the exact same mindset of those who are Islamists, especially those who are 12ers in Iran, burn the world down so a new world order can begin. You've got the open borders. You have the central banks that are out of control. You have everything.

you have equity at the cost of merit, you have censorship in the name of safety, you have deconstruction of the nation state in favor of what? A global technocracy. If the EU collapses, as it will when member states descend into civil unrest or economic ruin,

So many people who are at the top of our countries will not see this as a tragedy. They will see this as an opportunity. They'll see it as a necessary breaking of the old guard so they can consolidate all power into a single European authority under emergency powers. Always temporary. It's always temporary. And it's always for your safety until it's not temporary and it's not for your safety. And you realize way too late.

This is what's going to happen. You're going to destabilize certain countries in Europe. They're going to start to fall. It'll go into chaos. And the EU will say, you know, these nation states are beginning to fail. We've got to make it bigger. And we got to make it the EU and really give the power to the EU just temporarily. And this isn't conjecture. This is the pattern of every revolution that promised utopias and then delivered tyranny. This is the way it happens.

So what does it mean for you? Well, it's going to mean your energy prices are going to spike again. Your food will cost more if any of these things happen. And this is not even talking about our own debt crisis or the unrest in our own streets. God forbid that happens. It means your retirement savings, if you're lucky to have some, will face a new inflationary shock. But more than that,

It may mean that your kids and my kids are going to be drafted into wars you didn't vote for to fight for a world order you never agreed to. And spiritually, you've got to get your house in order because you're going to have to stand for truth and tradition. And that is going to be labeled as subversion very soon. If you're asking how close to a war like any we've ever seen before, how close are we? I'd say we're already at the beginning of it. You just haven't heard the starter's gun yet.

But when it does go off, it's not going to sound like a bomb in the distance. It's going to sound like chaos on your screens, lies in your newsfeed, disruptions in your bank account, fear in your neighbor's eyes. But you know this already, I think. I'm just trying to give you the signposts of where we are, some things that are happening and happened last night that are very, very disturbing. I'm telling you this so you can prepare yourself.

So you can be fully awake. So you can make decisions in your own life. I'm making huge decisions right now that will affect my life and my family's life right now. I'm about to take some serious risks on some things because I believe in them. I believe times are changing. And I'm being very, very cautious and careful, but not living in fear. You just have to be awake and know...

You know, I'm a betting man. I don't like, I don't ever go to, I don't go to Vegas. But if I have to bet on something, I will bet on myself because I know what I'm capable of. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not sure what everybody else is capable of. I always, always overestimate the good things and underestimate the bad things with other people. But I can bet on myself. I just want to know the odds before I lay anything down on the table.

Um, cause I don't like Vegas. I know the house always wins, but when I have to bet on myself, I'm the house, I'm the house and I'll, I'll roll those dice. I'll, I'll take those chances, but I, I want you to know, because it's important for me to know and my family to know what's coming. You know, I've, I've been really good at looking over the horizon and

And seeing things, I don't know why I have this skill. I, I, I think it's a gift from God. I mean, I don't think I figure things out. I think he shows things to me. I know he does. Um, but I've always been good at connecting dots that nobody else seems to be able to connect and seeing what's coming over the horizon. I just suck at timing. Uh, but as I see the things that are coming over the horizon, um, you know, we thought we won when we put Donald Trump in, um,

And we may have slowed the train down, but this train has already left the station. And, you know, where it stops, I don't know. But it already left the station. And, you know, if we don't do things, and I'm going to bring this up again, and I don't mean to sell you on this because I'm not sure what to do, honestly. But if we don't do things like,

Pass the big beautiful bill, or in this case, don't pass the bill. Whatever you decide, I don't know. I think pass it. It's only going to make things much, much, much, much worse and our demise quicker. And I've always been able to see over the horizon, but I will tell you, Stu, you remember, I used to, you know, back in the 90s, I would tell you stuff about what was going to happen now.

And, you know, we kind of laughed about it because it seemed insane. But a lot of that has come true, right? Yeah, for sure. A lot of the stuff that you were worried about 10, 20 years ago are kind of facts of life these days. Yeah. And even in the 90s when we were talking about AI, I mean, it's shocking to me that it's here now. I can't tell you what the world is going to look like in 2030. That's not normal for me.

um i'm usually pretty good at seeing the over the horizon and going this is going to play this way and it's probably going to go this way and i might be wrong on timing and stuff but the general direction i can't tell you what the world looks like in 2030. so it's it's you know i don't i don't say these things to do anything but awaken you tell you you got to get serious you got to secure your family you have to know your neighbors you have to learn our history you must build your faith

secure your own testimony. If you don't know God, you're just feasting off of somebody else. Yeah, I know God because you were taught you should believe in God. That's not going to be good enough. But most of all, you have to speak the truth

even when it's dangerous, maybe especially when it's dangerous, because that's when it matters the most. You can't save a civilization if we're afraid to defend the civilization or we don't know the principles of that civilization. So do all of those things to prepare for whatever is coming our way next, but

I wanted to give you a quick, in 10 minutes, you know, the quick signpost of what has just happened in the last 24 hours and the kinds of things that are happening in our own country, but they're a little farther ahead on in Europe and the crazy, crazy things that France and England are currently talking about doing and probably are going to end up doing them because, I don't know,

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And more beautiful, which is not going to be easy. But I think they're probably trying to do too much. When you say less big, what would you take out of it?

Well, there's, I mean, there's obviously there's tons of stuff that I have problems with the debt there. I think more cuts would be good, but like, I think focusing on the core elements of it, like for example, getting rid of the green new deal spending and implementing the tax cuts. I mean, I think something like that would probably be pretty easy to get through. There's a lot of extra stuff in there that everybody sort of bought their ticket into a yes vote.

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Is that what it is? Oh, yeah. Wow. Wow. Listen to this story. Germany is bracing for a continued surge in major insolvencies through 2025 and 2026, according to a recent analysis by the Credit Insurer Alliance Trade. All this comes after a disastrous 2024, which saw a record-breaking number of bankruptcies in the country.

They forecast an overall increase of 11% of corporate bankruptcies in Germany. At first glance, they're saying, well, this is because, you know, Donald Trump and his trade organizations, a bleak outlook in both Germany and in global trade, and many of the uncertainties caused by the tariff storm, we expect major insolvencies. Okay, but if you look down...

And you start reading deeper into the story. Ford Germany plans to cut 4,000 jobs as Berlin's economic disaster continues to unfold. This is Ford Germany. The entire automotive industry is in crisis all over the world, in Europe and especially in Germany.

The transition to electromobility is hitting us very, very hard. So is it the tariffs or is it all of this electrical bull crap that they've been trying to jam down our throats in cars? I mean, look at Ford with the trucks. You think Ford's in trouble? Of course they are. They're not making the trucks. They've spent all of their money in these electric cars that nobody wants, and they are behind now in all of the orders for trucks. I mean, what do you think is going to happen?

Yeah, it's fascinating. I mean, I have concerns over the tariffs and how they're going to affect the auto industry and a bunch of other places. But you can't make the argument that the current problems are that. I mean, most of these are in delay right now. The tariffs haven't even kicked in yet.

So much more germane to their problems are the electric car situation and the way that they've tried to force this down everybody's throats. And, you know, there are some electric cars that people like. Obviously, Tesla is the main example of that. Right. I mean, that's the main example, right? Like, it's not to say that there's been no other successes. There's a Porsche on a high end that's been relatively successful with the Taycan, which is one example. Right.

Not many, Glenn. And like, you know, there are one of the fascinating developments is they a lot of these companies have tried this. It's not like they haven't tried to go down this road seriously. Like Ford did this electric Mustang thing. They're selling for $20,000 under MSRP brand new. The same thing with the Challenger electric version. Now with the Challenger, you're talking about American muscle car, right?

They tried to come up with an electric version of that. Nobody wants it. They're sitting on lots. I have a friend who even bought a Tesla. He bought a Tesla a couple of years ago. It was one of the nicer ones. It doesn't have a ton of miles on it. He was looking to trade into something larger. He has a car. He wanted to do like an SUV. They were offering him as a trade-in value at like 20% of what he paid for it. Wow. 20%.

This is a disaster, frankly, for people because they just don't want these things. It's not working. What happens, Stu, when our country needs electricity and you're... We're there. And you got electric cars. Right. I mean...

You've got Meta now building nuclear power plants. You have Microsoft building nuclear power plants. And

And that's because we are so far behind the eight ball. You look at our energy production compared to China's energy production. We are not going to be able to even be in the ball game with AI if we don't start producing more energy. And they're trying to sell us electric cars.

AI is going to require 99% of the energy we currently produce. 99% of it is going to be needed for the server farms for AI by 2028. And you're building electric cars? How stupid are these people? It's absolutely unbelievable. And you're right. We're at the point of, you know, kind of like the reverse issue of our debt, where the debt is, you know,

If you look at a chart, it's just sinking and sinking and sinking and sinking.

Our need for electricity generation is increasing. And I don't know, I was looking at a chart, you know, because this is what I do in my off time, look at charts. And one of them was the electricity generation of a lot of the major countries in the world. And you see, you know, United States, many European nations, all the industrialized countries are basically flat. Like we've over the past like 30 years, you know,

We're basically flat with how much electricity that we generate. And then you look at China's chart. China in this period was way behind us and is now so far ahead of us because they're being honest with themselves.

Right? Yes, they do. They make all sorts of solar panels. Many of those things, they wind up shipping out to places like here and in Europe where we buy them. They're not using them. Yeah. I mean, they are doing some of that stuff. Some. They're building a coal plant every single week. A new coal plant opens up in China. And now they are far, far ahead of us when it comes to emissions totals. No...

politician that talks to us about global warming ever brings that up. They don't seem to care about it at all. They're much more concerned about whether we or even like a European nation is going to change their policies when it comes to emissions, which is going to make no difference at all. This is absurd at every single level. And I think anybody who looks at it honestly can see that.

It's good that at least something like AI is now beginning to awaken us to this problem where we're starting to take nuclear power generation seriously again. I mean, we're so far behind at this point. I don't know that we can be rescued by that. But at least we're looking at those options again and now avoiding the stupid environmentalists that stopped it all of this time. We have to build. I think it's 60 or 90 percent.

massive electricity generation plants like nuclear power plants in the next four years to remain competitive. We haven't built one since when? 1972? How is that going to happen? You know, you want to talk about an infrastructure program. That's the infrastructure we need.

That's the infrastructure. Did you hear about the high-speed rail in California? Oh, I'm obsessed with this story. I've done multiple shows on this going back over a decade.

It is the possibly the greatest example of everything conservatives talk about that we could ever imagine. They were going to spend, I think it was $13 billion was the initial estimate on a high speed rail that would bring you from San Francisco to L.A.,

In some really quick amount of time. And that's how they proposed it to the... I can't remember. Three hours? I don't... You know the geography of California better than I do. It had to be faster than that. A couple hours, maybe. Yeah, okay. Whatever it was. There was a time limit, basically, in the initial proposal. So they had to hit this. Now, of course...

There's no way they were ever going to hit it anyway, but they didn't have any of the land. They didn't put it on a route that was like parallel to a highway. So with the clearance already done, they decided to kind of navigate it and jut it back and forth. Sometimes in the middle of people's farms to the point where they were building things where people couldn't get from their doorway to the street.

They had parts of this line marked off as wetlands, but there was no water there. So they built giant bridges way up into the sky over these puddles that barely even existed. There certainly weren't wetlands.

And, of course, they don't connect to anything because they don't have the land to get it from one side to the other. They're now looking at not $13 billion, but $100 billion to just get a little tiny section of it done. It's incredible. Yeah, okay, okay. So they wanted 463 miles, and if they spend a billion dollars a year,

and a hundred billion total over the next 20 years they'll have 171 miles of that rail system built which is 463. not even close to the entire distance of 463. no

It is incredible. And these, the, the farmers are hilarious talking about this. They're like, you know, some of these farms would just be, you know, cut off completely. Like they'd lose a quarter, a corner of their farm. And they're just like, oh, okay. And they take these, you know, they're getting massive offers from the government to buy this land. And they're like,

I don't even know what, like, they can't really say no because it's being done through eminent domain. So they're getting paid for this and they all know there's never going to be a train there. They know it.

But there's nothing they can do. They're just victims of this. And, you know, it is central to everything the government tries to do, which is, you know, why when you get into these programs, all of them get out of control, right? It's why the debt looks so bad. It's why these programs, you know, are, we can never seem to fix them, right? All these things are the same story. Can I ask you, Stu, I mean, if you look at that train,

The way they built it in California, it goes from one crappy city to another crappy city. But you can get there quickly. And then I heard Chicago, they're proposing a new high-speed rail, and it's going to go from Chicago to St. Louis.

From one crappy city to another crappy city. Why don't they build them in cities that people like to go to? You know what I mean? Chicago and St. Louis are great. I mean, you know, I will say this.

You don't need to make any more trains. That's my policy right now. Basically, no more trains. We don't need any more trains. No more trains. Now, people will bring up, you want to build a privately constructed train, privately funded completely. You want to give it a whirl?

give it a whirl. You can do that. You can do that and potentially fail. There are some areas when you're talking about long, you know, higher speed, longer distance. There's one in Florida that people talk about that is, you know, had some success and potentially. I will say this, when they talk about the local rails, you know,

They never work. Never. And you'll be like, whoa, I rode one last week to a concert. Okay, that doesn't mean it worked. That's not how... They never pay for themselves. It's always fun... We have one in Dallas that... Oh, my God. We have one in Dallas that runs empty all the time. I don't think I've ever seen more than two people on that train. And that's usually like two people in a week. Yeah. You're like, whoa. Whoa.

Were there two people in there or were they just cutouts? I'm not really sure. Or they're homeless people who live there. There's nobody that ever rides a bike. Yeah, one of the two. Yeah. The Dallas one is a monumental failure. And by the way, almost exclusively paid for by people who don't ride it.

Right. Like that's not how we every single time someone rides that train, we pay like I don't remember what it is. It's like an extra five dollars every time someone gets on it. It's like the worst possible thing. And we're and, you know, it has every single dumb government policy attached to it. Like you can take it runs down right near where the Dallas Mavericks play.

And I remember looking at it and trying, I wanted to take my son to a Mavs game. And I was like, you know, driving is such a pain down there. Maybe I'll entertain this. Of course, it takes, even with the traffic, four times as long to make this journey. And then you get down there and it runs and it stops running before the game ends.

So you take the train there, but you can't take it home because it stopped running before the final buzzer sounds. You live on the street. You live on the street for the night. You take in a little culture. You sleep under a bridge. My gosh, what's wrong with you? All right, back in just a second because we can't take trains. Maybe we can take airplanes. Wait until you hear this. We've covered the trains.

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Glenn, a couple more details on the train in California, if you want them. Yeah.

So good. The rail route cut some dairies and farms in half. It split houses from barns and bisected processing facilities. It turned some 100-year-old roads into dead ends, stranding homeowners on inaccessible islands and forcing farmers and their equipment to go miles out of their way simply to work their own land.

There are three district lagoons or retention ponds. The rail path now cuts two and a half. Another is considered part of a wetland, which caused the rail authority to build a sky-high viaduct over what looks like nothing. Rail construction has forced the lagoons to remain dry the past two years. That coincided with the wet years, meaning no stored water and lots of pumping for area farmers. I mean, there's a hundred stories on this. This is...

What's fascinating about this one in particular, Glenn, is we're now kind of at the Biden actually did have cognitive disabilities part of the story. Right. Like everyone now, even on the left, is admitting that this is obviously not working. It is a catastrophe. But because it's in process, the wheels just keep on turning. They just keep churning. The money's there.

People have been hired. They're told to keep going. And all these catastrophes and disasters and the way it's affected these communities just keep they just keep rolling over them, even though everyone knows this train will never exist in the form that it was presented in. This is why you don't let government do these things, because a private company would have gone out of business. They wouldn't have done it in the first place. But if they would have done it, they would have gone out of business. And then all of the pain stops for everybody. Do we have time? How much time do I have here, Sarah?

Ah, shoot. I don't have time. We're going to have to get to it tomorrow. Air Canada is celebrating Pride Month. And, you know, just when I say, you know, you got to look to private companies. Then you look at private companies who are just doing everything the government is telling them to do. The Pride Month flight crew on Air Canada would...

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So we have Secretary Linda McMahon on. She's Secretary of Education. She testified yesterday in front of the Senate Appropriations Committee on President Trump's 2026 budget. Last night, we did a special on Blaze TV, why Trump's war on Harvard is a major threat to elites. And there were two things that happened yesterday with the universities. This is one of the reasons I just, I love the administration. I mean,

Nobody's going to stop these guys. But welcome to the program, Secretary McMahon. How are you? I'm terrific, Glenn. Thanks for having me on. It's really nice to be with you and your listeners today. Thank you. Thank you. So two things that happened just yesterday. First, with Columbia's Title IX violation.

And a threat to their accreditation. And the second, President Trump halting new foreign student enrollment at Harvard. Can you take me down the road of what happened yesterday? Well, with Columbia, it really was Title VI. So we're looking at civil rights violations. Oh, I'm sorry, Title VI. You're right.

Sorry. That's okay. So that's been one of the things that has been on the agenda for our talking to Harvard and as well as Columbia. We can't allow these Title VI violations to continue. And there's this uproar in the media. They're always talking about that we are trying to infringe on freedom of speech.

And I say, no, no, no, this is not that at all. This is not a freedom of speech violation. This is a civil rights. When students cannot feel safe on campuses, then we have to take action.

And, you know, one of the things that I think what you might be addressing is that yesterday we sent a letter to the accreditor for Columbia that said that, you know, that Columbia is in violation of Title VI, and therefore you as an accreditor have to take very seriously your responsibility of looking as to whether or not this accreditation should still stand. Jeez.

And if they can no longer be accredited, then a lot of the students that are going there now, et cetera, would be impacted by that. So I think this is a serious matter to bring before Columbia. And I think they're going to be responsive. I hope they'll be responsive to it very quickly.

Yeah, you know, I don't understand how Title VI isn't understood by, you know, these liberal universities. I mean, everybody understood what JFK and RFK did when, you know, people were being harassed because of their skin color, but now it's suddenly okay, you know, if you harass a Jew for being a Jew, that's suddenly okay. It is exactly the same thing that Martin Luther King was fighting for. And somehow or another, they're fighting

They're standing against what Martin Luther King believed in. Well, I agree. And so that's why the president has been so absolutely adamant. In fact, he campaigned on this and he certainly fulfilling his promise during the campaign, which was that he was not going to tolerate, uh, you know, anti-Semitism on these, especially in these elite college campuses.

You know, where I do believe that a lot of the instigators are not necessarily students currently enrolled. I think a clear number of them are, but I also think they're outside agitators coming in, which is one of the reasons in our conversations with both Columbia and Harvard and others is that we must, you know, prevent these

these protesters from being able to wear full masks or headdresses that cover their face and preempt your being able to identify who they are. And so I think there's not been a great deal of pushback on those requirements. Still, the universities want to make sure that any student who is wearing any particular kind of covering as it's a religious

or for health reasons that those be allowed. And it goes along too with what the president is saying now is that we also have to make sure we are vetting these students or asking these universities to vet these students more carefully who are coming in and also the professors they're hiring. What is their ideology? Now this is, again, not trying to tell universities how to teach,

But when Harvard, by its own stats, say that only 3% of its teaching faculty are conservatives, I don't think there is the diversity of viewpoint which we would require of these major institutions. It just doesn't make sense. Also, I know you're looking into Berkeley and Harvard for their connection to China and unreported funding issues.

from China. What do you know about that? Well, you know, it's already a statute on the books, Section 117, that requires universities to report the amounts and the source of

of foreign funding. And so it's not just Harvard and Columbia, there are many universities across the country that are not up to speed in doing this. So it's one of the things that we are cracking down on to make sure that we do know the source of the funding. And so we're just getting all of these ducks in a row to make sure that everyone is abiding by the law.

Well, I will tell you, there's a disturbing story that came out yesterday about two Chinese scientists that were, is it Michigan or Wisconsin? I can't remember. One of the universities. University of Michigan. Okay. Tell the story. This is so disturbing.

Well, it was, and I didn't hear the full story, but what I was listening to yesterday morning on the news was that it was discovered that one of the students in his backpack, what they showed on television were four Ziploc bags, and in each bag was this little bud of a fungus that

that could absolutely be introduced into agricultural crops, you know, with a blight, and I could destroy the crops. And then, of course, if you're ingesting some of these materials, we weren't sure exactly what kind of health ramifications we could have on our population. So, you know, this is the kind of thing when the president is saying we have to crack down on

and understand who these students are that are coming into our universities and how we're vetting them to know as much information as we can, because this is really dangerous stuff. I heard yesterday in a conversation with Secretary Brooke Rollins, who was really talking about, you know, protecting our students.

food crops in our country is not just because we feed the world, but it is because we have, it is a clearly part of our defense as well to make sure we are safe as a nation. Yeah. It's really disturbing when our universities are allowing these things to go on and they're so,

They're already so hell-bent against Western civilization and the United States, and then they allow these poisonous cells to come in and stir up hatred for Israel, for Jews, for anybody, but then take money from one of our biggest enemies, China, and allow experiments to happen with a fungus that they smuggled in

to do this work, these two Chinese scientists come in, smuggle it in, and the program is run by two other Chinese members. This is a recipe for real, real problems. How confident are you that your role in the administration and Donald Trump are just, you're not going to give up and you're going to win on these things?

Well, we clearly are continuing to put measures in place. The authority that I have

at the Department of Education and that other agencies have like HHS, like GSA, like DOJ, any of the agencies that provide federal funding to any of these universities that we do have the ability to withhold funding once we do our investigation and have our findings. And I'm very happy that, you know, we are doing that.

because we were turning up. But, I mean, this was such a clear violation yesterday with these two scientists and discovering this fungus in these Ziploc. If I recollect what I was watching on television, maybe it wasn't a Ziploc bag, but that's clearly what it looked like. It was wrapped in plastic. And that they had him in his backpack.

So, you know, came right from customs, you know, with everything. And so you wonder what would happen if that, you

you know, kind of exploded in his backpack. And I don't know any science behind that, but that's just, you know, taking a far-fetched leap, but you just never know with this stuff. And I think the president looking again at, you know, blocking travel from a lot of these countries that we can't do thorough vetting on the people that are coming in, I think is a, is a correct measure to do. And, and we just have to keep looking at all these violations, you know, from these universities and,

And our heaviest hammer is in Title VI. Also, you know, in Title IX, relative to allowing, you know, men and women's sports. So we've got a couple here at the Department of Education, a couple of heavy hammers. Are you still on a timeline here of shutting down the Department of Ed? I mean, is there some, do we have an idea of?

If this is going to be happening to transfer the education control back to the States and we're going to really shutter this thing or not. Well, we are currently now in joint, uh,

by district court, I think it's a district court that has said that we could not proceed any longer. Not only did it enjoin shutting down the president's executive order to shut down education, but it is enjoin some of the actions that we have taken, even actually before I got here, which were reducing staff at the Department of Education said that we now have to rehire all of those people.

And it's just, it's a crazy kind of injunction. I believe we will prevail at the Supreme Court, but right now we can continue to think about programs, you know, and maybe think about planning relative to returning education to the states, but actual actions, we are in a pause at this particular moment due to this injunction. I mean, you came from the private sector. You're a self-made, you know, woman,

I mean, you've gone from WWE to something even crazier in Washington. You don't need this job. Why are you doing it? Well, I know it's kind of a, it always sounds like the typical answer, but you'd like to give something back. I just think those of us

who have been in the private sector or who have different levels of expertise to be helpful in our government and see a real need, need to step up and have service because, well, it's no different than the president. And I think he set an incredible example for the rest of us to follow. So

If you have the time and the skill set and he's put trust in the cabinet officials that he's brought on to accomplish the goals that he has, I think it's a really big calling to be able to do that. And I'm honored to be here at the Department of Education and to serve in our government.

For the second time, I was honored to be at the Small Business Administration in his first term. So I'm happy to be back, to be able to do what I can and to lend whatever levels of expertise I have to this mission. Linda, it's good to talk to you. Thank you for everything you're doing. I appreciate it. And we wish you Godspeed and good luck on everything you're working on. Appreciate it. Thank you, Glenn. Nice to talk to you. You bet.

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You know, every once in a while, it is important to stop and recognize when things happen that are out of the ordinary and maybe even positive. I know it's shocking to acknowledge that anything positive happens these days, but we're in a weird period here. I can't remember many times like this where suddenly everybody in the mainstream media and all Democrats seem to be acknowledging that

Acknowledging that everything we said over the past four years was true. And like you could say, there's many examples of times where conservatives have said things that have turned out to be true. That is, of course, accurate.

Usually, though, the Democrats and the mainstream media are not admitting it, though. They just keep fighting it and saying, oh, actually, if we just throw more money at that California train, it'll turn out well. We are at a weird stage, and I think we should at least stop and smell the roses a little bit while we're here. Appreciate this a little bit. For example, today, there's new reporting out that

Everyone in the White House, everyone in the media, everybody in Washington agreed with your assessment of the abilities of Corinne Jean-Pierre. Everybody knew. Everybody knew she sucked the whole time.

They were saying she didn't know how to manage a team. She didn't know how to shape or deliver a message. She often created more problems than she solved. They said that she was out just for herself, trying to promote herself. She said at one point, the rumor is that she wanted to try to, while she was doing the job at the White House, she wanted to also be on The View once a week.

And she would have sucked at that, too, because she's just absolutely terrible. So we'll talk more about that on Studios America tonight. Don't miss that on Blaze TV. And I'll be on with Megyn Kelly here in just a few seconds. Join us there if you can as well. Thanks so much. This is Glenn Beck.