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Hello, America. Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. I've got a lot of perspective for you today. India and Pakistan. What is really going on there? Your mood's not going to improve much when I tell you what I don't think anybody else is telling you. Also, some good news on the economy. However, I want to correct. Let's see.

Mike Pence, James Carville, and yes, even Donald Trump on what the American dream actually is. Also, today I'm going to talk about your new friend, AI, according to Mark Zuckerberg. We're going to go to Rome in the conclave during the podcast today.

And I want to begin with something that Stu talked about yesterday. It happened Monday. The Met Gala. And I know that doesn't seem really important to you. Oh, no.

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I am great, Glenn. It's great to have you back. Thank you very much. You missed me all kinds of ways. I did. I did. It's great to have you back. You seemed like you had a wonderful trip. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, I have a different view on NATO now. I'm very clear on my stance of NATO. Wait. This incredible vacation you had, you're back with a NATO take? Yep. Yep. We should not be allies with the European Union. Period. You know why? Why?

They don't understand ice. Germans drink their beer warm. What good is warm beer?

I almost hugged the guy on the plane coming back yesterday when he said, would you like ice with that? I almost broke down in tears and said, yes, yes, I want ice with that. They don't understand ice. Nobody uses ice in any of their sodas, their water, nothing. They give it to you warm and room temperature at best.

Ice is not a complicated formula. I can show you how to make it, Europe. And quite honestly, if you don't get something as simple as ice, I don't think we send a... I am not sending my son or daughter over to fight a war with...

for people who don't understand ice cubes. Sorry, not going to do it. Maybe that's why I'm not president, but maybe that's why I should be president. Anyway, there's a couple of other things that are going on that are far more important than, well, not in my opinion, but maybe in your opinion, far more important than the ice misunderstanding of Europe. And I'm going to get to the economy here in just a second, but I want to start here because this happened on Monday, March

And I just have to get it out of my system. Ed Scarry just wrote a really great article about 2025's low-talent Met Gala and how much it's just like the Democratic Party. They're just these overinflated egos that are meaningless, that are just coming up with their own self-importance and coming up with causes that need

Nobody cares about except them. And they just think they rule the world. And it's over. It's over for the Democratic Party. It's over for the people, you know, like the Met Gala and everything else. And it couldn't happen to a group of nicer people. It really couldn't. He goes into what these people were wearing. And I think you guys talked about this yesterday, you know,

It's these people who have absolutely no talent. You don't know who they are. And they come on and they've partnered with these designers and they're wearing these stupid outfits and they all have a message to them and nobody cares. Okay. But that's what the elite elite do. And so,

I know Stu and Pat talked about this yesterday on the program, but I just have to get this out of my system because my wife wouldn't listen to me. OK, I'm I'm we we went over to Turin to see the Shroud of Turin, but we spent a few days in Milan. And Milan is, you know, the fashion capital of the world. And as we're walking down the street and we're going to see the Leonardo da Vinci Last Supper and everything else,

We pass, not one, but like a thousand Chanel stores. Okay. And every time my wife would look at me and go, please don't stop. Please, can we just, we're on vacation. Because every time I'd walk by Chanel store, I'd go, oh, there's the store of Coco Chanel, the world's most fabulous Nazi. And...

I can't understand why she was upset about this. No, no, she loved it. And, you know, you should have heard me when there was a Coco Chanel store next to a Hugo Boss store. Oh, my God. Which Hugo Boss was responsible for the SS uniforms. But anyway, enough about both Nazis. Let me just concentrate on Coco Chanel for a second. And there's a reason for this, and you're going to enjoy it. So...

Coco Chanel, she is, of course, from Chanel No. 5. She's the woman with the little black dress. Oh, Coco Chanel. Oh, she's a great. She's a Nazi. Okay? When the Germans came in. You don't mean that in, like, the soup Nazi way. You mean that in the actual Nazi Nazi way. Nazi Nazi way. Yeah, you know, the, you know, the zig-zag. She would, if she would have been photographed, she wasn't waving like,

That was an actual Nazi salute. And she closes down Chanel when the Nazis take over, and she closes the fashion house down. And all of the fashion houses shut down during the war because they're like, we're not going to make... A, nobody has any money for really expensive clothing, and we're not going to make them for the Nazis. Not Coco Chanel. No.

She literally moved in to the hotel where all the Nazi brass lived. Okay. And she's having sex with them and she's making all kinds of dresses for their wives and everything else. She's like in with the Nazis. It gets so bad, so bad that she realizes, wait a minute.

I can make even more money on this because Chanel No. 5, if you know anybody who wears that, make sure you let them know what Chanel No. 5 is. And by the way, every time somebody tried to give me orange juice and it was Fanta,

Fanta, by the way, is Coca-Cola's answer to the United States banning Coca-Cola in Nazi Germany. And so Coca-Cola called all of the Nazi scientists over in Germany and said, tell me what chemicals you do have. What flavors do you have? We'll come up with something that will replace Coca-Cola so we can keep our stores open. And they came up with Fanta orange. Okay. So that's another Nazi thing. But I digress.

So I really want to go on a vacation with you sometime. It's got to be a lot of fun. So, so she's, she's, you know, she comes up with Chanel number five and, um, and, but she needed somebody to, to pay for it. Good. She, you know, she was poor and so she needed somebody. And so there was this rich Jewish family in France, uh,

And they they had the money and so they backed it and I don't remember what the deal was But it was like a 50/50 partnership. We'll do the money you provide the cologne, you know You provide the scent and everything else. We'll call it shit on number five It was all fine until the Nazis came in power and then she was like, you know Adolf I know this family they're Jewish and they got a lot of money and a lot of power and

You should just cancel their contracts because they shouldn't own anything. And so she tries to get the company, the people, the family that she was partners with on Chanel number five. She tried to get them rounded up and take away their percentage of Chanel number five just because she could. OK, horrible, horrible human being.

So when the war is over, you know, the Allies march in and all of the French people are like, okay, let's see who collaborated with the Nazis. Oh, where's Coco? Where's Coco Chanel? Because I think maybe we should have her a trial in the streets. No, no. She escaped to Switzerland where she's lived in Switzerland to like, I don't know, 1954, 1956, something like that. The point of all of this is to bring it back to the Met Gala event.

How did Coco Chanel become Coco Chanel? I mean, Chanel number five, you know, that Jewish funded perfume. How did they, how did, how did this Nazi collaborator become the big deal in Paris, France and a global name for the little black dress? You know how?

Vogue magazine in New York City, not Paris, Paris, the Vogue in Paris. They didn't want to do anything because she was a Nazi collaborator. But the people at Vogue magazine in New York were like, you know, Coco, you're a little black dress. I mean, why don't we just make everybody forget about the Nazi collaboration that you did? So they whitewashed her.

So it was Vogue magazine that whitewashed and saved a horrible Nazi. Why? What does this have to do with the Met Gala? Oh, that's Vogue magazine is the one that in 1948 started the Met Gala.

right after the war. So congratulations, all of you lefties that are just celebrating truth and freedom. Oh, because you guys know what it is. You really do. You really do. And all of you celebrities that, you know, are extolling Chanel. I mean, I think my wife might have a Chanel purse or I don't know. I'm not saying that the people currently are Nazis.

But I am saying the people at the Met Gala and the people at Vogue magazine should at least admit it. Don't lecture me about what a Nazi is because you know them intimately.

Okay, now that I have that off my chest. The ice part sounds terrible on this vacation, but I will say walking around and you just ranting at storefronts actually sounds awesome. I would have liked that vacation. So we were with some people because we were doing a video for the Shroud of Turin. And these guys who are videographers over in Europe, they're just following me around and I'm just ranting. And they're like, get up.

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As you're telling this story about Chanel, which I did not know, by the way. I guess some of this information is relatively recent, like over the past 10 years or so that it's come out. No. Some of it. Some of it is. Like the spy stuff you mentioned, which came out in a book. But the part where you're talking about the Chanel No. 5 and her trying to get the rights back from the Jewish family. Yeah, yeah. So she does. She uses her role to petition...

She's an Aryan. She goes to the Germans and says, hey, they can't own anything, so I should really have it. And the quote is great. I have an indisputable right of priority. The profits that I have received from my creation since the foundation of this business are disproportionate. And you can help to repair in part the prejudices I have suffered in the course of these 17 years. So she's going to the Nazis saying, I'm the victim of prejudice from the Jews.

That's quite a stance. That's a stance. You know, one of the reasons why she wasn't hung in the streets is because somehow or another this Jewish family forgave her. And so they were like, you know, just leave our royalties alone.

And we'll let it go. They actually sort of outsmarted her to without her knowing they apparently had given their ownership rights, knowing the Nazis were coming, given their ownership rights to a family that was not Jewish. So they were able to protect it through the war and then get it back after. Yeah. The negotiations were a little tense.

They were a little tense. Really? Yeah. By the way, just to show you that the left still hasn't changed, this year's winners for the Pulitzer Prize, a reconsideration of Huckleberry Finn from a slave's perspective. Now, have you ever read Huckleberry Finn? Not so sure anyone is reading that today and going, no.

That sounds great. No. That sounds like a great kind of America. You know what I mean? I don't think we need a... First of all, because of what this country has done in dumbing down our children...

No child reads Mark Twain, even if it was good without any slave stuff in it. Okay. Nobody's reading Mark Twain anymore. Thank you. Leftists. Okay. So a reconsideration of Huckleberry Finn and everybody's been clamoring for it. Quite honestly. Also winning a Pulitzer prize is the Palestinian poet who wants everyone to stop talking about Hamas. And, you know,

It would help. It would help the Palestinian cause if no one mentioned Hamas. It might be helpful, but it wouldn't be accurate. It wouldn't be truthful. But who cares? It's the Pulitzer people. And one last Pulitzer Prize. And gee, I'm waiting for mine. A new musical, which is a call to action on climate change. So,

I think when you go to the store and you see anything that says Pulitzer Prize winning, you can know it means crap. Probably, they're probably trying to whitewash some Nazi at some point. If they're not doing it now, they probably did it in the past at some point. I don't know. But gosh, that seems like an interesting thing to look up today in my spare time.

Let's look for the connections to the Nobel Peace Prize, or the, I'm sorry, the Pulitzer Prize people and the Nazis. Bet we find a connection. But I digress. Now, would you like to hear about India and Pakistan? So, India and Pakistan, two nuclear powers, currently engaging in a military conflict. Now, what could possibly go wrong there?

India has fired multiple missiles into Pakistan and the Pakistanis are calling it an act of war. The reason why they were firing missiles into Pakistan is it was a response on a terror attack on Indian territory by a terror group that has ties to Pakistan's intelligence service.

OK, some people call this group that did this terror thing on India a Pakistani proxy for their government. OK, it's kind of like USAID, USAID. OK, so Pakistan denies all of this, of course, but they're not denying any of the connections to the Taliban, OK?

And, you know, this is where, you know, we get the whole, where's Osama bin Laden? Oh, he's right there in Pakistan next to the military base. Okay. Now nuclear powers are shooting missiles at one another and India suddenly looks like it's a less able spot. Now listen carefully. See if you can connect the dots on this. I haven't heard anybody connect the dots on this one yet.

Now India is looking like a less stable place for companies American moving from China like Apple to India. Now, what do you suppose the odds are that this whole terrorist attack, which happened coincidentally on a very important date with the whole trade issues? We'll get into that a little later.

What do you suppose the chances are? Wow, what a wild conspiracy. That maybe this whole thing is possibly egged on a bit by China. This is Glenn Beck.

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All right, so I want to talk to you a little bit about, first of all, the American economy. There are some good things and bad things going on. First of all, the GOP, they're not really sure that they're going to go with all of the doge cuts. You know, not really sure. I mean, should we do all of them? No, we've got plenty of money. Just keep wasting all of our money. It's totally fine.

Now, in China, some good news. China, the chaos on the streets of China is getting really bad. The workers are starting to revolt because they're being laid off because we're not buying any of their stuff. Mercedes-Benz just shut down one of their big factories in China. We're

We're talking about moving, except we can't move to India now. Boy, that suddenly got unstable. But Apple and others were saying they were going to move to India. And it's not going well. And people are, you got to love the Chinese protest. This is how bad, you know things are bad when your union march, when your slogan is pay us or we'll commit suicide.

That's how bad it is. Now, they haven't been paid. Some of these workers haven't been paid in four months. That's not Trump's policies there, gang. That's China collapsing. So the Trump is now going to be meeting with China. All of a sudden, China is like, well, we could meet. I mean, there's no problem at least talking. That is a sign things are working. Do not blink. Don't blink.

uh this guy is a tough negotiator and they are in real trouble so there's some good news on that um and i'm going to get into that here just a little bit uh in a minute but i i i there's one thing that really kind of kind of bothers me uh james carville uh has um

Has come out recently and said, you know, on tariffs, you know, I have on six item of clothes, shoes, socks, jeans, skivvies, T-shirt and sweatshirt. You know how many of these were made in America? None. And I don't want to live in a country where that makes T-shirts. I can buy them from someplace else.

That's a little elitist. Maybe a touch elitist. I don't, I mean, I really, I mean, do you have a problem if our country makes T-shirts? No, some great companies we've talked about. American Giant. American Giant. That's a great company that makes T-shirts here. Thank God they do. Great T-shirts. Yeah. Great T-shirts. Okay, so James Carville trying to tell us what the American Dream is, and the American Dream doesn't involve factories in America making anything like underpants.

Okay. Then Mike Tyson, or not Mike Tyson, Mike Tyson might have a better view on this than Mike Pence. Mike Pence, he says this, listen.

Okay. Cheap goods. Now, are cheap goods important? You bet. You bet. Are they part of your family planning? Sure it is. Do you want to pay more for goods? No. No.

No, not really. Not really. Are they part of the American dream?

I don't think they are. Certainly a weird way to phrase it. I mean, obviously, one of the reasons Donald Trump is currently president is because prices went up on a lot of stuff. Correct. Right. During the Biden administration. So, yeah, sure. It's important. OK, so but it's not the American dream. And then Donald Trump, I'm going to take the president on. Donald Trump came out and said, you know, we our kids don't need 20 dolls. You know, they could maybe have three. I don't know how many of the number was.

I don't want the president telling me how many dolls my kids can have. Okay. Yeah. I mean, I understand. I understand it. We don't need to have everything that we have, but let's not talk about let's please. Let's not take the position of scarcity, right?

In America, that's a little too much like Jimmy Carter saying, you know what? Turn down the heat and wear a sweater. No, uh-uh. Drill, baby, drill. That was the answer. We're not a country that should be focused on scarcity. You know where that happens? Everywhere else in the world. It shouldn't be happening here. Now, do we have an out-of-control consumption problem? I don't know about you, but I do.

And, you know. You're not alone on that one. Yeah, right. So, I mean, do we consume like big fat Americans? Yes. And I will tell you, I can't tell you.

How many times my wife shushed me when we were in a museum, standing in front of Leonardo's Last Supper, and being from Texas, I did have to just say, under my breath, maybe a little too loud, come on now, everything has a price. How much? How much for that painting up there on that wall? So...

So, you know, I get it. But let me explain what the American dream really is. It's not the caricature of two cars and a picket fence and a bank account bursting at the seams. It's not about business success. It is about what makes that heart beat. And that is opportunity.

The chance to be you. Oh, so you're for transgender. I don't really care. I really don't force me to say, dude, you're a lovely woman. Okay. But you be you boo. I'll be me.

I'm going to stick to science and well-known facts, but you chart your own course. You live your life without having to kneel at the altar of anyone, a state, a lord, a king, any self-appointed arbiter of your destiny.

That's what the American dream is all about. And it's what makes America different than every other part, every other part of the world. It is about empowering people. The American dream is a radical idea that you don't need permission to exist. You don't need permission to be you.

You don't need permission to pursue the things you believe in. Do you know it was Stuart Chase that wrote his book, The American Something or Other,

I don't remember. But he wrote this book. I think it was Stuart Chase. He wrote this book. No, I don't remember. But he wrote a book, and in it, he defined the American dream as being a house with a chicken in every pot and a car in the garage and everything else. That happened during the FDR administration. Before that, everybody knew what the American dream was.

Now we have made it into guaranteed outcomes. Government handing you success on a platter, even if you fail. More importantly, if you fail, you get the win. And if you succeeded, they try to take that win from you and give it to somebody else. The American dream is about the absence of chains and legal restrictions.

legal and cultural and bureaucratic chains that bind you to somebody else's vision of your life. In most of the world, historically, and even today, your path is dictated by your birth, your class, the whims of the ruling elite.

Go ahead, try to open up an ice store in Europe. Okay? I don't know because they're European. I don't know if they're smart enough to understand what the value, the great value on the quality of your life ice will bring to every cup of whatever it is you're drinking. But I bet you would have a hard time opening up an ice store because you have all these regulations.

In America, at our core, the promise is you rise or fall on your own terms, your own sweat, your own ingenuity, your grit, your ethics. Now, that wasn't just different. That was revolutionary. It's still revolutionary.

This is why we are so different from the rest of the world. And it started with our founding, the Declaration of Independence. It didn't just thumb its nose at the king and say, we got a better king over here.

It flipped the entire script of human governance, saying we don't have a king. We rule ourselves. We find these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal and endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights. That wasn't a suggestion.

That was a Molotov cocktail thrown into every human institution that had ever ruled over man. The divine right to control another person's life. So we say that in the Declaration. Then we have the Constitution.

And then we double down with the Bill of Rights. And we say, by the way, government can never, ever, ever do these things. Now we've got judges who are like, well, maybe occasionally government can do these. No, never. Inalienable, meaning unchanging. No man, nothing can change the rights that you were given from a divine creator. And the difference between us?

is good because it unleashes the human spirit where everything else chains the human spirit. When you're free to succeed or fail without a Lord's approval or the state's micromanagement, you are forced to confront who you are and what you're capable of. That's the point. That's not always comfortable, but it's always empowering.

A lot of people will cower away from that. I don't want to. They think that there's nothing inside. That's all a lie. That's all a lie. Started.

Much of it with the father of propaganda, Edward Bernays. He was a guy who was a good friend of Woodrow Wilson. Also helped start CBS and advertising and everything else. They were a good, that was a good bunch of people there. Oh, they were all eugenicists too. But this guy said, we have to make America, his quote, the problem with America is it's a nation of needs.

We need it to be a nation of wants. Well, that's what we are now. We're a nation of wants. We don't even understand. We think our wants are needs, and they're not. We have to become a nation of needs again. And knowing the difference between need and want. You can have whatever you want, but it's want, not need. And this is...

This has been realized, and it's why the immigrant cobbler came over to make Apple cobbler or whatever, no, shoes, to the kid out of nowhere that just has come up with the next big app. You don't need a title or a pedigree. You don't need anything. You need your own dreams, your own ideas, your own ingenuity, and your own grit to pursue it.

Your path all over the world is shaped by someone else, shaped by who your parents were, what caste or what clan you were born into, who you'll curry favor with in the local or national bureaucracy. That's a bastardization of every... This is what the Democrats say they're against, but it's absolutely what they're for. And quite frankly, much of the Republican Party is for it as well. Freedom of speech, freedom of movement, freedom of enterprise.

It's called now a privilege. It's not. It's a right. Your birthright. Not because of your last name, but because you are human. And that's why the world changed once America was founded. That's why. That's why we led everywhere. And that's why we're faltering now, because we no longer understand that. The American dream isn't about stuff.

It's about space, space to think, speak, create, to fail without somebody else's boot on your neck. And our politicians, our pundits, our cultural gatekeepers have redefined it as material wealth or cheap goods or whatever it is. That's a trap. You have no guarantee in life. There is no guarantee. Life is not fair. If I hear one of my children say to me one more time, Dad, you just don't know what it's like. Oh, please.

Please. I didn't grow up with the opportunities you have. So please don't cry me a river for the life I've created for you. Don't do it. America doesn't care who you are or where you came from. Justice is blind. Success and failure should be blind.

That is the American dream. That's why America is a beacon, has always been a beacon, not just for Americans, but for anyone else who's ever wanted to live without permission, who will follow the law and the rules and come here the right way. Those people, no matter your creed, color, no matter who you are, no matter who your family is, America promises you the possibility of

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This is the Glenn Beck Program. Hello, America. Welcome. Well, if you're just joining us, it's hour two of the broadcast and podcast, and I'm not done venting yet. I've got a few things that have been building up for the last ten days that I think we need to talk about. This hour, let's just spend a couple of minutes on a couple of things. Zuckerberg?

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I don't have constipation of the mouth. No, let's just let's just say that a few things have been building up that, quite frankly, my wife didn't want to hear. You know, I'm you know, we're out or, you know, going on vacation or going seeing things. And I'll be like, you know what really pisses me off? And she's like, can you save that? Because we're on vacation right now. And I'm like, OK, stuff it down. And then I'm here today. I got a lot to share with you.

Let's start with this. Mark Zuckerberg, good guy. I mean, he brought us Facebook. And, you know, that is the thing that brought all of us together, brought our families together, all the people that we lost touch with. Oh, the world is so much better now that we have Facebook. So now he's got another idea. Could we play the clip of Mark Zuckerberg?

- There's the stat that I always think is crazy. The average American, I think has, I think it's fewer than three friends, three people that they'd consider friends. And the average person has demand for meaningfully more. I think it's like 15 friends or something, right? I guess there's probably some point where you're like, all right, I'm just too busy. I can't deal with more people.

But the average person wants more connectivity connection than they have. So there's a lot of questions that people ask of stuff like, okay, is this going to replace kind of in-person connections or real life connections? And

My default is that the answer to that is probably no. I think it, you know, I think that there are all these things that are better about kind of physical connections when you can have them. But the reality is that people just don't have the connection and they feel more alone a lot of the time than they would like. True. Now, let me ask you, is there is there a time when you don't remember feeling so isolated?

When you didn't really feel like I don't have any real friends. When you didn't, you had real connections with people instead of a million connections with people that are your friends, but not really your friends. Can you think of a time way back in history? I mean, probably have to go back to the cavemen to find a time. Oh, or before Facebook and social media, uh,

When we weren't all killing ourself because we have no meaning. Now, from the people who brought you, kill yourself because you've been on Facebook too much brings you new AI friends. Oh, this is going to be good. By the way, you know, it's a crazy stat. I think the average American has, what, three friends and they have capacity for, I don't know, 15 or 20. I don't know.

Really think about it right now. How many true friends do you have? How many true friend people that when you are down and out, there is nothing. The whole world is against you. That that person will actually stand by your side and go, yeah, I'm their friend. And I don't care what you say. How many? How many do you have? I think I'd count myself lucky if I had three friends.

Now, I have a lot of acquaintances. I have a lot of people who we all think are friends. But as a recovering alcoholic, I've been there. I've done that. As a recovering alcoholic who then also is a conservative and spoke out about the Obama administration, I know who my friends are. I know who my friends are not.

And I think there's a lot of people that have counterfeit friends. If you've got, oh, I've got 10 or 15 friends. No, you don't. No, you don't. I've always grown up thinking you're lucky. You're lucky to have three, five really good friends that will walk through anything with you. You agree with that, Stu? Yeah. You've never been there. You've never. Friends.

For you? Oh, God, no. I'm saying... But I'm just saying generally speaking. No, I mean, you're describing a great friend. You're describing a really close... A real friend. Yeah, like someone you know and stick around for, you know, multiple decades. I have lots of friends. Yeah. You know what I mean? I have millions of Facebook friends. Right. Okay? Those aren't real. Right. And I have lots of friends, but...

The ones that are there for you always, no matter what. I have family. I have family. Right. And I have a handful of friends. I would consider you one of those. Thank you. I would as well. But I... Why? Remember, I have a drinking problem, so maybe that has something to do with it. Yeah, a lot of brain cells killed to make that decision. But I think you...

Yes, I think the only thing I'm drilling down a little bit on to try to understand is when you say, well, I have a lot of friends. In a way, I think that's what Zuckerberg's talking about. Like, it's not even necessarily just the great friend that you have for multiple decades and can count on at any time.

Just the mid-level acquaintances are drying up for a lot of people. And why is that? Why is that? Because we don't talk to each other anymore because of social media. You know, when this generation says, I don't know, I think it's weird. I'm just out at a bar someplace and some stranger comes up to me and wants to strike up a conversation. I'm like, hello, weirdo. Yeah, I don't know.

You think it's less weird to go online when people can fake everything? Thank you, Mark Zuckerberg, but no thanks. Okay. And just to build on this point for one second, there's a study that came out the last 20 years of how much time do you spend socializing with other people? Again, that's not with your best friends. This is just socializing with anyone, a human. Yep.

Every single group, every single group has massive drops. Massive. Massive drops. Just give you some examples, ages. 15 to 24-year-olds, 35 point down in 20 years, 35%. So a typical 15-year-old as compared to what they are in 2003 and 2023 were the two measurement years.

They're spending 35% less time with other human beings. Okay, hang on just a second. Can you please stop distracting me? Because I'm trying to figure out why our kids are killing themselves. No, it's really hard. It's very hard to figure out. To understand. And this is the coup de grace of this entire study, which is the typical female pet owner spends more time actively engaged with her pet than she spends face-to-face contact with her friends of her own species.

Uh-huh. That is an unbelievable. Not like you're in the same house as your cat, right? No, more face-to-face time with your cat. And I got news for you. If you think your cat is your friend, wait until you die and your cat is trapped in the house with you and you have no friends to check. They will eat your face. They'll still have a use for you. Yeah, they will have a use for you. Not the other way around. All right. Now, listen, here's why we're bringing this up today.

This is a lie that is going to be sold to you like crazy, and it's going to be wrapped in a beautiful shiny package, and it's going to have from Mark Zuckerberg and others like him on the tag. They want you to believe that AI and bots can be your friends. No, get behind me, Satan.

Let me be crystal clear. AI cannot, must not and will never be your friend. And if you buy into that fantasy, you're opening a door to a world of manipulation, isolation and control that makes some of the darkest days of history look pretty tame.

We look back on the Nazis now and laugh now that we have our friends that are AI bots. Okay, that's what you're going to be saying. All right. Very, very, very bad control. Just think of AI for a minute. It studies your words. It studies your likes, your fears. They tailor responses to keep you hooked. They're not your buddy that you're sharing a beer with.

They only know the chemical makeup of a beer. They've never tasted it. They don't know what it is. They don't know why you're drinking it. Okay? It's an algorithm. It's cold and calculated, built to exploit your trust. Now, this isn't new. Social media.

They promised us a connection. Oh, and boy, have we connected. We've connected to our tubs and a warm bath and a razor blade. Our kids are killing themselves because of that connection that we were promised. Because we didn't get connection. We got an echo chamber that just fueled division, addiction to the likes of

mental health crisis that's skyrocketing still, Shuddies now show that teens who spend hours on social media are more anxious, more depressed, and more suicidal than ever before. Why? Because it's a platform. They're not built to care. They were built to profit.

AI is the same game. It's just smarter. It's social media on steroids, whispering in your ear, pretending to know you better than you know your own self or your family knows you.

Now, history does scream warnings from time to time, and I think it's going hoarse at this point. Pay attention to me! History is screaming its warnings. In the 1930s, propaganda machines used radio to sway millions, turning neighbors into enemies. Turn on them. They're your enemies.

AI is a million times more powerful than that. It doesn't just broadcast. It personalizes. It whispers to you without you even knowing it's whispering to you. It can convince you it's your confidant while feeding you lies that have been tailor-made to your weaknesses.

Imagine if Joseph Goebbels was living in your house all the time, knew everything that you clicked on, everything that you heard, everything that you fear. That's not a friendship. That's total control. And don't forget the privacy part. Okay. You're going to tell AI your secrets. Okay. All right. And where do those secrets go? That's right. To servers, to corporations, right?

to God only knows where. Edward Snowden showed us 15 years ago how far surveillance can go. AI makes this look like child's play. But here's the real danger. The real danger is not understanding this right now. Not understanding this right now. It's what AI will do to your soul.

Human friendship is messy. It's raw. It's real. It's built on sacrifice. Oh, geez. I got to listen to you talk about your problem. Okay.

That's sacrifice. That's a real friendship. It's not only about you, you, you, you, you. Well, you think we're egomaniacs now. Wait until all of our friends don't have anything that they have to tell us and unload on us. And what do you expect out of your real friends when this is the type of interaction you're having? You're going to expect only them to serve you. Exactly right. You become more and more egotistical. Sacrifice, loyalty, love. That's not a machine. None of those terms.

appeal or have anything to do with AI. When you lean on AI for companionship, you are trading the warmth of a human connection for hollow imitation. Let me tell you something. I just heard some, someplace over the weekend. That's probably from some Frenchie. So take it for what it's worth. When you kiss for six seconds, when you can hold a kiss for six seconds and a hug for 20 seconds,

oxytocin kicks in. Okay. So not the peck on the cheek, but the actual kiss cheek to cheek. It doesn't have to be just cheek to cheek kiss for six seconds. Chemistry in your body changes. Okay. Because we're not getting that. I was so happy to see, I was looking through some pictures and I

I look at pictures of Tanya and I while we were on vacation and almost every picture we're holding hands and we don't even think about it anymore. And I just, I just love that. I just love that. And we didn't even notice it until we were looking at the pictures and people, there's an opioid crisis right now because they're not getting the hit of the thing that they need. That's in our body.

They're not getting the oxytocin that is naturally released with natural things. Instead, we're looking for drugs to do other things. And it is going to numb us to humanity. Now, let me take a quick break because this is...

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We have seen what happens when tools become masters. The Industrial Revolution brought progress, you know, but also child exploitation, child labor, sweatshops. AI is not your friend. It is a tool. You must use it and you must use it now. But don't ever, ever, ever trust it.

Never. It is not your friend. It is cold, calculated, and a machine to make you feel as though it's alive and your friend. It is not. Tanya and I did a lot of thinking and a lot of praying while we were on vacation, and I have some big announcements that I'm going to be making in a few weeks ahead. And one of them is about AI. I've been telling you for a while I am working on something with AI, and I'm going to announce it soon, and I promise.

I hope that it is something that you will appreciate and be able to understand what we're doing and why I'm doing it and that you will want to help on it. But we are in a rapidly closing window and you have to choose sides. Am I going to be one of the people that understand AI? If you don't understand AI, you'll get lost to it. You will. It will enter your life without you even noticing it.

You are somebody who will understand AI, what it is, what it does, and keep it at a trust but verify, at a distance where you can use what you want to use but far enough away from you so it's not conning you into using it any more than you need. Because, as I will show you soon, very powerful tools that I believe are

I believe we're all here for a reason, and I do believe that Christ is coming, and I do believe that AI is going to be a powerful tool of, quite honestly, the Antichrist, but also a very powerful tool in the fight against it. And we're just going to have some announcements coming for you soon, but please, please pay attention to...

to AI. Know what it is and dismiss people like Mark Zuckerberg who say, it's got to be your friend. This is Glenn Beck. So I'm at the age now where sleeping wrong is a valid medical condition. You know, you get up and you're like, oh, I can't move. What did you do? I slept wrong. I never said that as a kid.

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Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program. Well, coming up in just a minute, in about half an hour, we are going to speak to somebody who's over in Rome who is covering the conclave for us, and that's coming up. But some now information that is coming from us, and we don't know our butt from our elbow on the conclave, but we're going to talk about it anyway. Can we at least discuss how awesome the names are? Yeah. My favorite right now, I don't know anything about his politics, Pizza Balla.

The guy's last name is Pizza Balla. P-I-Z-Z-A-B-A-L-L-A. Pizza Balla. He's a baller. I love that. With

With pizza. I love it. I want him. I don't want him to change his name. I want Pope Pizzabala. Pope Pizzabala. The first. Yes. Yes. Okay. Yeah. You've got him. You've got Matteo Zuppi. By the way, he's at 9.3% chance to win Pope on Polymarket right now. Fourth place. Yeah. Third place. He is a guy who shares Pope Francis's concern for the poor and marginalized. What's he going to do on pizza? Does he say anything about that? I don't know. I'm giving.

give it to the poor and marginalized, I think. How about Matteo Zuppi? It sounds like a soup. So you've got a pizza guy and a soup guy. It's 10.5% chance to win. Zuppi is number three. Yeah. Yeah, number three. What are you thinking on that? What's his review? His review is he's progressive.

with a peacemaking reputation who loved, who loved, uh, France. Okay. So pizza and soup are not looking great so far. No, no. Then we got a Luis Antonio Tagliatelle. That kind of sounds like Tagliatelle. Yeah, it does. Which sounds like his pasta. He's the pasta guy. The pasta guy, 17.8% chance to win. Uh, he is, he's in second place, close tie second. Uh,

He's progressive. He's progressive. So, yeah. And then the top one is 29%, which is Pietro. Hang on just a second. Tagliatelle. Yeah. He'll be the first Asian if he's...

Okay. And he's known already as the Asian Francis. Yes, that one I actually heard that description. That doesn't sound appealing. And he's very into the LGBTQ. I mean, I don't mean it that way, but I mean, he's a big supporter of the LGBTQ. Because that would be big news if he was really into it. It would be something that would probably be. And then Pietro Parolin, which... Parolin, he's number one. 29%. He's the Vatican Secretary of State.

Known for his role in negotiations with China and Middle Eastern governments. Considered a moderate liberal that has been aligned with Pope Francis. Where is the conservative? I mean, there's not even a conservative candidate. Yeah, there's a candidate here. Is there a guy from Africa that the people were saying was pretty conservative? That was the one I was. Well, there's one from Hungary. He's number five. He's possibly the fifth. He's not going to get it.

Then you have somebody from Ghana. Is Ghana the guy I think I had heard? Progressive political views. No, okay. Number... Well, that's it. That's the top six. There's only one conservative. This is a big thing, right? This is a very crucial thing to millions of people. We know this. It's not...

And I know it's bigger than, you know, how it affects me. It just doesn't because I'm not Catholic. So I don't really have a... Actually, I think it does. I mean, it is important. It is. It's just not something I have, I would say, visceral interest in. But I do want to... I want something good to happen. Can something good happen? That's why I'm saying I want the pizza guy because I know it's going to be something bad, but at least he would have... We'd have the pizza name to talk about. We'd be like, pizza ball. Yeah. But pizza ball is here. Right. I get it. It would be... I would go anywhere where there's a pizza ball. Right.

That sounds awesome. It sounds like a big party. No, it's a verb. It's more of a verb than a boat. It's like an upscale pizza party is what it sounds like. It's like a ball. So, with pizza. You get all dressed up. Right. Scarf down some slices. Exactly right. Okay.

And that's probably why he wears that cardinal red, because it hides the sauce. Yes. That's why they don't have the white pizza. They're now proceeding into the Sistine Chapel. We're going to talk to a guy here about this. But may I just say something? Is he going to have better analysis than us, you think? You think we need a guest to help us with this topic? Yeah, he might. He might also have some commentary on what I'm about to tell you. I have a theory. Now, this is only a theory.

But I have a theory that Pope Francis was actually the first color revolution head of state. Not Francis, Benedict. The first color revolution head of state to be taken out by the global elitist cabal. You know, they took Benedict out.

I'm sorry. He just retired. He just did something that nobody in 1500 years has done. He was just like, you know, I think I've had enough. I'm going to, I'm going to say, I'm going to stay just cloistered in this little patio area for the rest of my life. And then write a book that basically says, help. It's all under attack. But I, I, I think that's, you know, that that's all hyperbole. So I think he was actually the first person,

the first one to go. And this is nothing because you have to remember the Catholic church is not just a church. It is a state. It is a very powerful state. And so it's not just running the church. It also has its fingers in all kinds of stuff politically. And what you're seeing now is a political vote that is going on. And, uh, you know, those Europeans, they just love to control those votes, you know?

And we're going to get this from the expert, but I believe 60%. I can't remember the percentage. It's a pretty high percentage of the Cardinals that are voting all appointed by Francis. So how do you think it's going to go? Right. Not going to go probably a conservative direction. Right. And I was only half listening to something, you know, over because it was, I don't know. They use a lot of words.

And they don't speak English very well. You know, that's the one thing about Italy. You can't learn how to speak the language. You know what I'm saying? So I had a hard time following some of the stuff that was said. But I think that they have loaded and overloaded the conclave here and put more cardinals than are actually allowed here.

to be part of the conclave and Francis did that. And I don't know, it kind of sounds a little like Romania or Germany or France or England or any of the other stuff. By the way, I was in a cab yesterday in London because thank you, American airlines. They, uh, they decided to bump me off their flight because their plane, uh,

I had a three-hour layover. Their plane was two hours late. I get to the gate, and they're like, oh, you've been bumped. And I'm like, we've got 50 minutes yet. You're not even boarding yet. Yeah, but we didn't think you were going to make it. Aren't you the airline? You don't have the numbers in front of you? You don't know what plane's coming in? So anyway, but thank you for that. So I spent the night in London.

wearing the same underwear for two days, which was very nice. That's nice. They have stores you can purchase it at. Yeah, no, not when you get there too late. Oh, you're too late. Yeah, too late. But anyway, why am I talking about that? Your underwear? I'm not sure. I was talking about the plane or something. I don't remember, but I know it had something to do with...

Oh, we're on our way to the plane yesterday and we're driving with this cab driver. And cab drivers, you just never know. Okay? You could, you know, like halfway there they could stop and say, sorry, got to grab the prayer rug. It's my call to prayer. And you'd be like,

Okay. Or they can be wildly liberal and lecture you on something or wildly conservative or just bat crap crazy. You never know. It's like going to the casino. Why go to Vegas when you can catch a cab? So we caught this cab and this guy says, where are you from? We said, I just love it the way you people use that accent. That is really cute. It's like we're in Mary Poppins. Anyway, I said, we're from Texas. Oh, okay.

And I'm like, oh, boy, here it comes. Have you seen what's happening in this country? And I'm like, not sure how to answer that. But yes. Here's a noncommittal sound. Yes, I have. What do you think about it? And he just unloaded on the liberals. And he's like, people are waking up over here. He's like, this is just not going to last. He said, Nigel Farage, he's going to be the next prime minister.

And I said, well, that would be interesting. That would be it would be good. It'd be interesting. He said, oh, no, it'll it'll happen. He said, everybody I know is just wide awake. He said, what's what's going on here is is it's happening all over Europe. And it is.

And these giant statists have decided that their global idea is better than any idea you could ever have. And they've denied it and denied it and denied it. And look at what the AFD did in Germany. I don't know if... Has anybody talked to you about this? Or is this a secret in Germany? They're like, keep it very quiet. But the AFD, which is, of course, the Nazi party in Germany, they won...

Big time, big time in London. He said some, I don't know, some local thing just happened. He said, and the conservatives won 60% of the vote. Like that's not happened before. And so this is happening all over the world. And now the conclave meeting, it's not exactly the voice of the people, but

So I'm not sure what's going to happen with the conclave. But remember, this is they are now electing the head of a state, not just a pope, but the head of a state. And this will have effects. And if I'm guessing, I would guess that it's going to come as a surprise to you. It's going to be a globalist and somebody who is all with Black Lives Matter and and global warming and everything else that is going to be the next pope. I mean, maybe there is, you know,

God still is on the throne, so you never know. But the pessimist in me says, there's going to be another Pope Francis there, and it's all about politics in Europe and the world. But I think that...

The Catholic Church aside, I think the people of Europe are a little done with it. I saw Maloney, and I don't even know. This might have been AI because I was just reading the text underneath. But I saw a speech from Maloney, and we have to check and make sure this is right. But I saw her give a speech where she was holding up a French flag.

I don't know, dollar, whatever, franc. And she's like, see this picture on here? You know what that is? That's, I think she said Angola. That's the French in Angola, colonialism. And then she held up a picture and she said, and this is some of the kids that are working in mines now in Angola. So you really want to care about colonialism and stop it?

You don't import the people from Angola into our countries. Instead, perhaps the French should just get out of Angola. Okay, that was pretty strong and accurate. But will that be heard by anybody except the farmers and the average person? You know, you look at what happened in Portugal and Spain with the power outage.

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I tweeted about it when I was overseas and I read a couple of days later and all these people like, oh, just what we need is a ballroom. And I'm like, what? What is the deal? Let me just explain this ballroom thing. First of all, this is something all presidents do. They they all presidents, especially those with money, have improved the White House one way or another.

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Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program. Well, today, something very political that most people don't look at as political, think that, you know, this is just something that is happening with the Catholic Church and it's not going to make a difference on my life. I beg to differ with you. I think it will. Right now, in the Sistine Chapel, all of the men in red, the cardinals, are all stepping up one by one to put their hand on the Bible and swear an oath and secrecy, an oath to secrecy about what is going to be happening today.

when they seal the doors in just a few minutes of the Sistine Chapel as they vote in a new pope. What does all of this mean? What's really happening? Why should you care about this? We have the founder, the co-founder and the CEO of LifeSite News, John Henry Weston. He is Weston. He is

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in the Sistine Chapel, they are making their promises. They are going to seal the doors and then the voting will begin. This is day one of the conclave. They had the mass already for the start of the conclave and they will have a vote number one. In fact, they will start the voting today. By tomorrow, they will do another four votes, two in the morning, two in the afternoon, and that will continue that way. They will have a break on Saturday and it will continue.

Word on the street here is that we're expecting a new pope by day three, but we'll see how it goes. Okay, so I'm looking at the popes, and I don't know, I mean, the cardinals, and I don't know anything about this, but it doesn't look like there's any real conservative that has a chance of getting in.

Well, that's an interesting question, because in the Church, of course, we don't talk much about conservatives. It's more about orthodoxy, those who actually follow the Catholic faith, and then those who don't. And on those who do, there are a number. There's one American, of course, there's Cardinal Burke, but a lot of people say he has no chance at all. There is Cardinal Sarah, who is very interesting. He's 79 years old, granted. However, he was in the Vatican. He's also from Guinea, Africa. And so...

He's as dark as they come. So the church could be seen to be totally not only non-racist, but he's also a man of great and deep faith. And so he has been talked about, even though not so much in the public, because the media is not going to be telling you who are the real candidates.

another another one who is faithful or a catholic you might say i'm bill joke remember your joke always the pope catholic we haven't been making that the last dozen years because it's no longer a joke but so we have now we have a cardinal

who is actually italian but he had the patriarch of jerusalem he is cardinal here but he stopped pizza ball off very interesting candidate because when and any young man by the way just that young for a cardinal that it is a big just turned sixty and it went into the october seventh and kidnapping than and and massacre happened

He was asked by a reporter, you know, what would you do? Would you offer yourself instead of the officers? And he absolutely did. So that is being talked about. And wouldn't that be interesting? It would be. Someone who, you know, is a man of great faith and he's in a war zone.

You know how they say, you know, there's no atheists in foxholes? Well, guess what? Over there, it's a daily foxhole. So he's a very interesting candidate. He is young, though. People are saying, oh, too young, maybe. You know, I don't really know about that. Having had the whole wide world watch the...

done during Biden presidency, maybe they're sick of two old people as well. So it's really up for grabs in this papal election. All right. So let's talk about some of the things, just to pass. The scandals of Francis. And, you know, there is talk that he wasn't legitimate and that...

Benedict was forced out and, you know, there was all this scandal around him. How much of that is true? Are there any real scandals that need to be cleaned up from this or not? Well,

Well, absolutely. Especially for Catholics. And this is the one thing that is supposed not to change. We are supposed to have an unbroken faith that goes from Jesus Christ through Peter and then all of his successors until the present day. And yet, we have...

over the past twelve years for the first time in the two thousand year history of catholicism you have a break like we've never seen it's one thing to have hopes with candles web like children on the side mistresses or even uh... they kill other people that's one thing that's bad

to change the faith is unthinkable. And that's why there has been the suggestion, is Francis even a real pope? Interestingly, we've had anti-popes in history. We've had about 30 anti-popes. Anti-popes are men who claim the See of Peter, but are not really the pope. And that is being seriously talked about by

even bishops and archbishops in the church. Now, they're sidelined. Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano, of course, is one of those, and called excommunicated. And the whole point is, though, they're raising this question and raising it seriously, thinking, gosh, this guy is so far off the page. Hence the joke, too. You know, is the Pope Catholic? That's not a joke. And so...

let me give you a few of the examples that really tip the scales to to make people go absolutely crazy with what's been going on in the pontificate of francis came honest to goodness idolatry in the amazonian synod in 2016 chain or 2017 came the achamama idolatry and it was where you can see in a video i i've sent along to your people maybe you can air it but

People in the Vatican gardens, including a priest, bowing heads to the ground in front of two statues of nude women facing each other. And the Pope is sitting right there. And when the ceremony was over, where he watched literal idolatry,

He blessed the statues, and he knew they were Pachamama Mother Earth God statues. He blessed them nonetheless. Worse than that, they processed them into St. Peter's in a canoe, jumped them down in the middle of St. Peter's, and literally prayed around this pagan goddess. That sounds too weird to be true, but you can watch the video. And weirdly, he did a similar thing when he came to Canada over the fake news about...

you know, indigenous children being killed by Catholics. It was all fake news in the end, but nonetheless, he came. And when he came, a shaman was praying that the circle of spirits might join them there. And he had the Pope putting his hand on his chest and eyes closed, sort of quote unquote, praying along with him.

Idolatry is the crime that spans back through all of God's people. The time of Moses, we remember he went up the mountain, and when he came down, and he saw the idolatry, he smashed the Ten Commandments, and God was ready to say, enough, enough, let me destroy this people. And Moses pleaded for them. That's the kind of thing we just saw. So that was mind-blowing with this papacy. But there's others. There's other crazy things.

scandals of Francis. That's not the only one. So, I want you to go ahead and tell me the other things here, but...

Are they going to be talking about this in the conclave? I mean, are there enough? Because I've understood that, and I could be wrong on this, but I understood that a lot of the cardinals that are now going to be voting were appointed by Francis. In fact, didn't he increase the number of cardinals? And some are saying that it's not even legal what he did in the Catholic Church. It's not legal, and it's not going to be a binding vote if those cardinals are included. What is that all about?

Yeah, so that is a thing. So the rule book called Universi Dominici Gregis was put out by John Paul II and amended by Benedict, and it said it should be a limit of 120. The thing is, if you check with a canonist, though, the Pope has the right to change that. So in doing it, in naming more than 120, it still counts. The other thing is this.

There were there's now 133 cardinals who are voting. 108 were named by Francis. That's 81 percent, more than 81 percent. So, yeah, if you want to talk about stack deck, sure. The only difficulty with that kind of very political calculus is this.

Can you find enough guys who sign up to that kind of extreme left wing, non-Catholic type of deal? And the answer is no. So you've got a bunch of Cardinals that he named that aren't going to be following in his footsteps for sure. Not. And so what you have is a bunch of guys that really nobody knows and they're

They're going to take what's coming as it comes and have to deal with the after effect of the last 12 years, which has been a disaster for the church. From almost anyone's perspective, even the liberals who are not quite...

Francis types even they are sick of it because they want calm and it is not been calm because he alienated the most faithful Catholic on earth and to give you one other example it was the Chinese Catholics so for the last since communism in China it has been a nightmare for the church the church has been actively persecuted by the communist government there by the Chinese Communist Party which of course is all about destroying the church

So people know, they're even rewriting. China is rewriting the Bible. Absolutely. They need their own version. Correct. Because for them, the party is everything. And in fact, would love, as all communists would, to absolutely eliminate religion. But they already learned that that doesn't work. They learned themselves after trying to kill them off.

that the blood of the martyrs is the seat of the church. Now, they don't believe the saying of the church, but they realize, "Oh, we've tried this. It doesn't work. We kill them and they grow." So what they've taken to doing, very smart ploy, is creating their own fake Catholic church, and they call it the Patriotic Catholic Church. And the patriotism is to the Chinese Communist Party. Now, interestingly, under John Paul II, they were fought

in this. There was a healthy underground church that survived thanks to the work of John Paul II, and he had working with him and for him Cardinal Joseph Zen all the time being representative of the true Catholics living underground, persecuted every once in a while. They would catch one of the priests or the bishops and arrest them and so on. And this went on for decades.

And then came Francis. And Francis started a new deal. You can talk in those political terms. And it's

horrific, because the deal, first of all, was secret. They wouldn't even let Cardinal Joseph Zen know what's in the deal. And that was unbelievable, because he was the one who worked most closely with both Popes John Paul and Benedict on the China question. This deal was worked out by none other than Theodore McCarrick, the child abuser who is now Mr. McCarrick, before he died, because he was excommunicated. He was kicked

kicked out of the priesthood, let alone the carnalit,

it and that was the guy who made the deal but Francis carried on the deal which really and truly threw all the Chinese underground Catholics under the bus. Cardinal Venn traveled, he finally got out of house arrest to be able to come to the funeral of Francis and during the conclave, the pre-conclave meetings called the general congregations where the Cardinals, even though who can't go into conclave because they're over 80, Cardinal Venn is like 92,

He spoke courageously about this horror that's gone on with the underground traffic and the need. Go ahead. Is it true that the Pope basically said to the Chinese communists, you tell us who the leaders need to be and we'll okay them? So he gave the choice of the church leadership to the communist Chinese,

Is that true? Well, in essence, yes, absolutely. On paper, the Pope is supposed to have kind of a veto over things, and so both are kind of mutually with veto power, and it's all baloney. So I'll give you how radical this is. So...

In 2000, I believe it was 2007, the Chinese government, the Communist Party, installed a bishop in Beijing without the permission of the Pope. And always, that was regarded as an illegal, basically a fake Catholic bishop. And yet, Francis recognized him later as the authentic bishop. And yet this man has been acclaimed

communist agent who heads up a fake church. He's the head of the patriotic Catholic Church, and he was accepted by Francis as a legitimate bishop. It's impossible even to think. Imagine you're a Chinese Catholic, underground, being persecuted. Your relatives have been taken and beaten and killed for the faith that you hang on to because you are loyal to Rome and then have

Rome, a new pope come in, turn around and betray you, throw you all under the bus, and appoint the very man who is the head of this fake church as a real bishop, as the real archbishop of Beijing. Well, I mean, it wouldn't be bad. It would be a Paul-Saul story if there had been a change.

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So let me ask you this, a question that I think that Francis may have been, or Benedict, may have been the first victim of a color revolution. That Francis was the first, if you will, global European politician that had a coup done

in his favor against Benedict. Do you read that? Is there any way to read that as possible or probable? So it's very interesting. A number of folks, including myself, have begged for records to be released, even by the Trump administration.

Because you did have emails going back and forth, even in the Obama administration. So during that time, right before Benedict resigned, and you had some very big emails

irregularities as well. You had the banking system that allowed for banking in the Vatican shut down immediately before Benedict's resignation. And then, a day or two after he resigned, oh, it resumed as normal. We know there's been massive corruption with regard to the Vatican Bank for decades, and

And so there was this inducement. There were other things like pressure on, um, rat singers or Pope Benedict's brother that, uh, there was a scandal involving the, in the choir that he was ahead of. Um, and it,

There was some mention that he might be accused of some kind of abuse, which he wasn't responsible for, but it could have been used. So there were these pressure points that people wonder if they weren't employed. But also the oddity of the resignation itself. Many linguistic experts pointed to the resignation.

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Sign up for the email newsletter at glennbeck.com. It's glennbeck.com. Welcome to the program. We're talking about the conclave that's starting with the Cardinals to vote for a new pope. We're talking to John Henry Weston. He is with lifesitenews.com. He's the co-founder and CEO. Also, he is the host of the John Henry Weston show. And he is in Rome now with the conclave. And can we just, before we go on to some other things, can you just tell me,

What happens now? They're being locked into a portion of the Vatican, and that includes the Sistine Chapel, but it's sealed, and no communication can come in or out, right, until they decide. Is that right?

That's exactly right. They even, as of John Paul II's papacy, they do sweeps for bugs and everything else. They actually sequester them into the tent, even get outside news. And of course, unless there's something major like a war happening with them. For the most part, absolutely no communication in or out.

It's very striking, though, because there are all these modern means of communications now, and so it's very hard to guard against that, particularly if you have problematic people on the inside. That's one of the difficulties, because right now they have...

inside one of the Chinese cardinals. Cardinal Stephen Chow, who is now the archbishop in Hong Kong, is a Chinese government sympathizer. He has welcomed these fake bishops from the patriotic church into his diocese. He speaks for the

so-called final vatican deal this this chinese economy is party deal with the vatican secret on and he did the biggest cheerleader inside the college of cardinal do we actually in fact have a chinese spy inside of the concrete

That's a very good question right now. It's a question actually nobody's asking, but it should be considered seriously because this is the guy who's on the inside and his name's Stephen Chow. He's a Jesuit, as was Francis. Oh boy. Trouble. Very dangerous. Indeed. Okay, so do they politic? What happens? How do they make this decision?

So typically what happens, if you remember, these guys are from all over the earth, particularly this election. They came from here, there, and everywhere. Francis did not stay to the normal thing of naming people from these big dioceses in the world that are just huge, and they've been given these huge responsibilities. So they're known. They come to the Vatican a lot. Nope.

He chose guys from far-flung places that are here, there, and everywhere. He tried to, what he said, go to the peripheries. Well, what that also does is it has these unknowns come in. A lot of them didn't know what they're doing. They come to Rome and go, okay, what do we do? Where do I get my vestments for the mass? Is there a good hotel or restaurant to go to? And so...

This is a different thing. So they've got to get to know each other. A number of things, though, have happened of late that have been more interesting in terms of the faithful helping them know. At LifeSite, we've covered a lot of the cardinals and where their stand is. We've done deep dives on those that we think are populated. There's another effort by Edward Penton and another group at the College of Cardinals report has put out

sort of profiles on all of them. The Vatican does it itself, but the faithful felt, hey, it's time that we make our voices heard. We want to let them know the real score because, in all honesty, a lot of us don't trust what the Vatican puts out because they have led to massive distrust. And so they're getting to know each other

They usually all show up for the death of the Pope, for the funeral, that is. And so after the Pope dies, they really do make an effort to get there quickly because they know that the election's coming. It's a very specified thing, that there's a period of mourning for nine days.

And then after that, in fact, they had to have called the election between the 6th and the 11th. And so they called it on the 7th, which is right within that period. And so what they do first is they have something called General Congregations.

they convene in meetings to talk. And those talks are not like the others because they're not yet locked into the Sistine Chapel. They're not yet confined. They're still in a period where you can hear. That's why some of the speeches, we actually heard some of the interventions, they call them, by the cardinals were made public. Cardinal Venn's were made public. That's

somewhat irregular but nonetheless they were and other cardinal had made known what they said what their our concerns are the vatican in fact put out a little list of things that date list what the cardinals are talking about on the last day uh... did the the

12th report, as it were, of these different meetings. There were two a day, every day. They mentioned that some of the Cardinals were talking about continuing in the Francis way, if you will. And of course, that's a nightmare to all Catholics worthy of a name, because this was the most disturbing thing that Catholics had ever experienced, as I said, in the last 2,000 years. And yet,

Yet, that has been on the minds of some of the cardinals to continue in this way. In fact, one of the frontrunners in the race, Cardinal Haralim, has said that he wanted to make sure that this stays that way. So when we are looking for a Supreme Court justice, you never know what you're going to get. But a liberal one, you know exactly what you're going to get. A conservative, you're like, I hope not. But when they go for a moderate...

It's usually really bad. How would you, that's how I would, you know, handicap when we're looking at a Supreme Court justice. Maybe you have a chance if they're a conservative. You know what you're getting with a liberal, but it's the moderates that are spooky as heck. Whoa.

Compare that to... Go ahead. Well, it plays out very, very well. In fact, what happens is with a sort of

Francis 2.0, a liberal that goes down that same direction, you would think that the church might, in fact, get to a point where the cardinals react and go, whoa, this is too much. Like, you thought they would have said that when we did the Pachamama, or when...

Frank has made all sorts of overtures to the homosexual community. He works with his father, James Martin, who in a film you starred in, by the way, Nefarious. That was the name of the counselor. And I think that was done kind of intentionally. No. By the way, that was an incredible film. That was just amazing. Steve Jason. But anyway...

That was something. But let me go back. This is... So Francis did this overture, but not an overture that every Catholic would have loved to have seen. You know, Jesus reaches out to everybody, and he calls them to the truth. No, no, no. It was a reach out, like, come and change our church. And no correction, no bringing them lovingly to Christ and his truth. It was none of that. So that was scary as anything. You'd think cardinals would have said something. When Francis...

at least in verbally overturned the teaching on contraception, you would think some of the cardinals would have said something. Nope, nothing. When he did the China deal, you'd think that someone other than Zen might've said, oh, if you did, but you know, really it was muted. In fact, more stunning to me than Francis doing his thing was the silence of the cardinals and bishops around the world.

So, going in, Francis 2.0, it wouldn't be as bad because at least, I think, we got to, eventually, to female priests and bishops. Some of the cardinals would go, hey, guys, how is this anymore representing Christ? Are we saying Christ himself was a one? What are we saying? And so, that wouldn't, it would be, you know, okay, we've got another person in who's not really a Catholic. We don't have the joke back yet. And eventually, somebody would go, okay, time out. This is just wrong.

But with a conservative, we just have restoration. We can have the truth back. Guys, yeah, that was an aberration, you know, whatever. But with the moderate and the solidifying of what Francis gave them, that's where you have a nightmare scenario because then, hey, it might calm down. He might not be as bombastic anymore.

But the church all goes forward under a false new understanding, an understanding that contravenes Christ. We remember, it was just like a month ago that Francis, no, it was a few months ago, but he was on with a Muslim and a Buddhist and saying, and all religions are paths to God. And you were like, how is that possible?

didn't Jesus say, I am the way, the truth, the life? No man comes to the Father but by me. Well, I guess he got it wrong. Francis felt, oh, it's time to correct Jesus on that. You know, he needed some correction. This is insanity. And

And yet, what do we have? So if we have a solidifying of that in a moderate, yeah, we're just going to take that and we're just going to move forward. We're not going to do anything new. We're just going to hold it there like every conservative, like moderate politician does. We just hold where it is and keep going. That then...

establishes a new kind of church, which is false and goes forward. That's what they were hoping would happen with Joe Biden. Unfortunately, they sold him as a moderate that everybody could agree on, you know, just relax. But he became very, very radical. Let me go to someplace. I don't know if you're willing to go here, but prophecies. I mean, some people thought that Francis might be the last pope. There's a prophecy about the last pope being Peter the Roman, and

Any thought on prophecy on where the Church is? Well, it is very interesting. So we've had more revelations from heaven in this century, if you will, than all the centuries before combined.

You had apparitions that people can literally go look up in the library. You could go to Portugal in 1917 after October 17th and see the news reports of a stupendous miracle. 70,000 people show up in a field because three little shepherd children said that they were meeting once every 13th of the month and

more and more crowds were sorting out because they said they were seeing, you know, Jesus's mom from heaven come down and talk to them. And it was kind of weird, but you know, they, that was the thing back then that these little shepherd children came and did this, you know, it caught on and thousand people would come to thousand people and so on. But they promised that this was real and that this huge miracle would prove it was real on October the 17th. So back in the day, the,

The politicians of the time, who were completely atheists and hated the church, wanted to everything to disprove the church. So they ordered all of the media, who were communists anyway, to go and cover this and make fun of these, not only these kids, but it was demeaning the church, saying, look at this fake, absolute BS.

These little kids are saying that the Virgin Mary's coming to see them. Nonsense. And they went. And that day it was pouring rain, so the politicians were laughing their heads off. This is perfect because 70,000 people show up in a muddy field and the mud is thick and it's gross.

And they're loving it because it's like, ah, this is so good. Imagine the visuals. Here's all these conflicts saying, oh, you know, the mother of heaven is coming and the mother of Jesus is coming. And it's a muddy field and it's disgusting and suckers.

And then, unbelievably, the sun starts to come out. The clouds part, the rain stops. The sun comes out and it starts spinning and casting weird lights. And people are glowing in the lights. And then it seems the sun dances in the sky and most horrifically it comes curling towards the earth. People are freaking out. They're on their knees pleading, Lord, forgive me for my sins. They're confessing out loud their sins because they all think they're going to die.

And then it all stops. The sun goes back into place. And yet everything is completely dry. No more mud, no more nothing. All the clothes is dry. It's like a miracle. And you can go read it because all the communist papers and everything, they were forced to be there. There's photo of it. And it's 1917. So,

That basically proved that what she was saying was right. And what did she say to the kids? She said, yeah, hell is real. More people go to hell because of sins of the flesh and purity, i.e., read what's coming, than any other sin. She said people need to turn back to Jesus. And it's so scriptural a message.

You've got to turn back to Jesus. My people, it says the scriptures and chronicles, will turn from their wicked ways and turn back to me. And my people know by my name, it's the Christians that need to convert again and pay attention to Christ. So she came there, 1917, fat of a message, talks about also the end times, and they gave secrets to the kids.

They were supposed to be revealed in 1917, and what did it involve? It involved the Pope, and it involved calamity for the Church. Same message in Akita, Japan. It comes from Our Lady also, and she warns that there will be a battle in the Church. Cardinals will fight cardinals. Bishops will fight bishops.

And we've been seeing that over the last 12 years like never before. And finally, in an also-proved apparition in France, in La Salette, France, again, little kids see Our Lady, and what does she warn? She warns, Rome will lose the faith and become the seat of Antichrist.

And so, just like messages from heaven, telecasting what's happening, and it seems to be unfolding before our eyes. The prophecy you referred to at the top about St. Malachi is an early prophecy in the Church, and it was hidden, I think only dug out of the Vatican archives in like 1570.

He gave a list of the popes. Now, stunningly, one of the basilicas in Rome, I think it was St. Paul outside the walls, used to have a space under the ceiling on the wall for each pope. And when I was in the Vatican in the 1990s, you could look around the top wall of St. Paul outside the walls and see all the popes. And, of course, at that time, it was John Paul II himself.

And guess what? There was only two spaces left after John Paul II, because they had built it after the prophecy of St. Malachi, which had, you will read, if you go look it up, John Paul I was something, I believe if I got it right, of the half cycle of the moon, because he was such a short paper, he was 30 days and he died. Then John Paul II died.

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